Dan Boyle: “I wanted to go to the New York Rangers”


Dan BoyleBack from vacation, Dan Boyle spoke on a conference call today about his decision to sign with the Rangers. He made it very clear that, yes, he badly wanted to be in New York.

Here are some of the highlights:

On why he chose the Rangers: “That’s where I wanted to go. That’s the simplest way I can put it. When I found out I was done in San Jose, that was the team that jumped out. I played in Florida and California, two non-traditional hockey markets. Those places were great, but I wanted to experience something different.”

On the pressure of playing in New York: “I enjoy the pressure. You have to prepare for that. I’ve already been forewarned. I’ve been in pressure situations before – Stanley Cup finals, gold medal games – so I’m used to that.”

On improving the power play: “That power play was one of the spots where I hope to come in and help. It’s something I’ve been doing for many years now. Hopefully, I can help out and improve it.”

On former (and now current) teammate Martin St. Louis: “It was a big factor. Him and I kept in touch. It started unfortunately with the passing of his mom. Obviously, we talked through that and with him going to the finals.”

More St. Louis: “I’m not going to be the oldest guy on the team. That’s why I wanted to go to the Rangers.”

On being 37 and the hockey he has left: “Last season was unique. Obviously, I had the concussion six or seven games in and I had a rough three months where I probably wasn’t myself. A lot of people were saying it was the age factor, but I don’t buy that for a second. I keep myself in really good shape and I think anybody who watched the games down the stretch would see that I was back to myself.”

On his role with the Rangers: “I’m not looking to go out as a guy playing in and out (of the lineup), a few minutes. I’m not going out like that. I’m going to make a difference. I’m one of those guys who wants he puck, wants to make plays and that’s what I’m looking for.”

“I’d love to help (young players), but I’m there to win hockey games. Obviously, the ultimately goal is to win the Cup, and that’s what I’m there for.”

On advice from Brad Richards: “I talked to Richie also. Obviously, that was a little bit of a tougher conversation. One minutes you’re in the finals, but a week later you’re looking for a new team. But he had nothing but great things to say about the organization and the team, which was good to hear.”

On playing at the Garden: “We do have these questionnaires every year. For 15 years, they’ve ask you for your favorite arena to play in. Obviously, aside from the team that you’re on, Madison Square Garden was always my favorite arena to play in. It’s just a unique building. That’s another reason I wanted to come here, to get to play in MSG. It’s a famous building.”

On if he felt snubbed by San Jose, or if he would use that as motivation: “No, it’s very easy for me to get motivated. I’m a competitive player. That’s not a problem for me.”

On if he considered the Islanders, who traded for his rights: “It’s not so much that I didn’t want to go to some of these places. it’s just that I wanted to go to the New York Rangers.”

“At the end of the day, I wanted to be on an Original Six team, and the Rangers were the team I wanted to go to.”

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  1. Is this thing on? Is Carp secretly consulting for Walter’s Hot Dogs?

    Welcome Dan Boyle. You’re new delta tau chi name is “Whipping Boy”

  2. DBoyle- so what’s it like playing for the rangers?

    BRich- oh you’ll love it, great city, great fans. The checks always clear plus you don’t have to really play defense.

    DB- but I’m a defenseman.

    BR- oh, well, hmm, here’s Marty’s number, he likes it there too.

  3. “I wanted to go to the New York Rangers”

    Of course…this is where they all come to die…


  4. ThisYearsModel on

    Somebody send Dan Boyle the Misfits’ “I wanna be a New York Ranger”. One of my favorite songs.

  5. Dan Boyle is a good signing. Probably closest thing to a real PP quarterback since Leetch.

  6. I don’t want to jinx anything but I can see him play well in NY. He has been playing in some tough hockey out West and coming back East should be good for him and his game. To his credit, he is in great shape for 37. I think he’ll thrive in AV’s system as a shooter on the point, both even strength and PP…

  7. Wow, optimists! I’m all for for a chary outlook! Il Julbilo, Rejoice! The savior is here! BTW, I’m always hopeful and will wait until the regular season to cheer when DB brings down the garden with roaring standing ovations.

  8. I’m hoping Duclair and Kristo surprise everyone and make the team out of camp. I think we will at least see Kristo as a call-up from the AHL at some point. Probably Lindberg too.

    I think Fast is probably a lock for that fourth line spot with Moore and Glass. Unless they sign Carcillo.

    You have to figure that they will give McIlrath a good chunk of games this year, if not a full season.

    What other kids realistically can make an impact?

  9. Stranger Nation on

    NYR FAN is trying to wake up Sioux per man…

    Agree Boyle will help bounds on the PP. Much better fit than Mr Ed.

  10. So to recap… Two 40 year olds and a melted vanilla milk shake star winger will be heavily relied on for success of this team?

    What can go wrong? :)

  11. How about if someone notifies us of a New Post? Huh? This place is getting like Thailand without the food.

  12. “You have to figure that they will give McIlrath a good chunk of games this year, if not a full season.”

    Which one of Staal, McDonagh, Girardi, Boyle, Moore or Klein is coming out of the lineup for him? He’s going to need an injury or two to get playing time and they certainly wont use him in Prucha land, that’s for Kostka and the other vets they signed to compete for.

  13. 1. The second, not the minute, McIlrath can take a regular shift Klein and his $2.9 million will be elsewhere.

    2. you guys are waaay too pessimistic about next year. We lost a slew of guys, yes. But Richards’ PP contributions were his greatest asset and Boyle will improve on that. The center that replaces Richards will likely be able to play defense. Pouliot had the same year he has everywhere, Edmonton will regret that signing by about game 30. Loved what Boyle brought to the table but he wanted to go to Tampa. They are promising he will be exactly what he s here but he wanted to go play with Cally and live in the warmth where his new wife is from. he was great in the playoffs but I think they can replace him. Stralman was great this year but it was a career year. The goalie is still amazing, the defense is probably better overall, and the forwards not terribly different.

  14. Given that we now have $12.9m invested in the right side of our D corps, plus Kostka in reserve i don’t think we’ll be seeing McIlrath this year, not saying he’s a bust yet but the knee injury stalled his development and i think the brain trust want him to have another full season at AHL level to iron out any kinks in his game.

    As for Boyle, he fills the need for an experienced 2nd pair D and PP QB, a genuine one we’ve not had for years.

    I’d put my money on Lindberg making the 3rd C spot his own this year.

  15. Have we lost a slew of guys?
    A 3rd line center (Richie), 2nd line winger (Pouliot), 3 x 4th line wingers (Boyle, Dorse, Carbomb) and a 2nd pair D (Stralman).

    We still have 7 out of our Top 9 forwards under control (and seemingly most soon to be locked up to multiyear deals) and 5 out of 6 D remain the same (and the new addition is a PP QB!).

    I’m fairly optimistic!!

  16. I love how D. Boyle’s vacation was going to Europe and watching Faith No More for a few shows.

  17. While Pouliot’s numbers overall wound up being roughly the same as in years past, the manner in which he put the points up is what matters.

    In his first 27 games, he had 2 goals and 2 assists.
    In his last 53 games, he had 13 goals and 19 assists.

    That amounts to 20 goals and 29 assists over an 82 game season. If you believe Pouliot finally put things together and has permanently turned a corner, then you have a 50 point player with playoff success under his belt.

    So basically the Rangers lost 2 50 point players in Pouliot and Richards and have not replaced them at all. Then factor in Boyle be replaced by no-one of note either and that is certainly cause for concern…

  18. Good morning, boneheads!

    I, too, tend to think that, after their RFAs are resigned, the core will remain preserved.

    While the projection of 50 points for Pouliot makes sense, the fact is that he only produced 37, that what needs to be replaced. I think Pouliot will be missed, but I think that his play was a function of being a good fit on that line. I suspect that he will not be able to continue the same production in Edmonton.

    D.Boyle, even during his season when he suffered concussion, still produced 36 points. I think when given most of PP responsibilities, he will be able to replace Richards’ production. Having MSL for the whole season will compensate for whatever points they’ve lost, and then some. We should certainly expect more from Stepan and Kreider. Brian Boyle will be hard to replace, but not impossible. Partially by D. Moore, partially by a rookie. I still think they’ll sign someone to play on the L with Brassard and MZA. All depends on how much money the RFAs will be signed for. That’s why we haven’t seen any other moves yet.

  19. That’s a tough one, Manny.

    I’m actually more concerned about Boyle’s ability to handle second pair minutes PLUS PP time minutes than his point production.

  20. Manny-O-War on

    That’s actually a good point. Thankfully, Klein can probably eat up some of those 2nd line minutes and we know Marc Staal can pretty much make ANYONE a better defenseman. So maybe if we bump D. Boyle down to the 16-18 minutes with PP work he might be around the same 21 that he has now.

  21. The King is Dead on

    The Rangers could have more cap space to spend this offseason and in future offseasons if they did not sign Hanka to his enormous extension.

  22. Arbitration is *epic* Manny. Sather is all “you want it all but you can’t haveeee it”

    You see we signed Dan Cook’s doppelgänger? He’s planning on playing good and doing other stuff good too!

  23. Even if you consider Pouliot just a 37 point player, the Rangers still need to replace that. And despite all the blame Richards gets, he still finished 3rd on the team in points with 51.

    After resigning Brassard, Zucc, Kreider and Moore, the Rangers will have a max of 2 mil in cap space.

    Unless they can get a guy on a cheap 1 year deal like Roy, Booth, Stepniak, Penner, Ott, etc., all the replacements will have to via trade or filled internally.

  24. Heatley has been on Sather’s radar since his days in Ottawa. I’m just not sure Heatley considers himself a reclamation project. He just completed his 6 year, $45M contract and made $5M last year. At 33, he may be looking at another long-term deal, something the Rangers simply can not afford.

  25. The King is Dead on

    “Heatley has been on Sather’s radar since his days in Ottawa.”

    Are you employed by Sather?

  26. Penner is a big body who theoretically may replace Pouliot on that line. His speed is an issue, however. But he does go to the net, and plays an aggressive game. Worth a shot. Steve Ott doesn’t replace Pouliot. In fact, Steve Ott doesn’t replace anyone. He shouldn’t even be in that discussion.

  27. NYR – like the way you are thinking!

    My wish, is Kristo gets a chance with Brassard and Zucc. Personally I think Kristo will score more than 2 goals, 2 assists in the first 27 games.

    Lindberg or Miller will get the shot at 3rd Center. Who sticks? AV will go with Miller first, unless he’s unprepaired or feels he can’t coach him. Lindberg has gone through the PRO-cess, so he should be ready for the next step.

  28. I think Conor Allen has jumped over McIlrath on the depth chart. But he will be stuck as the 7th DMan, or the 1’st call up.

    JMoops will have to sign, and play right away to keep his spot. Which I think he will.

    Not sure about the depth players that were signed at D. Experience at D in Hartford will be a plus. How far does McIlrath fall, I’m not sure he will get to many games as a Ranger. Unless

  29. Personally – I don’t want to see anymore signings, for the forward positions.

    I think Lindberg & Miller can handle the 3rd/4th line minutes at center.

  30. leetchhalloffame on

    We need a center. Do we have any interest in that party animal Mike Rebeiro?

  31. New York would fit Rebiero’s lifestyle.

    I’m thinking he could find a party every night.

    Manny might explode, so Sather better steer clear of that one.

  32. I would take Teller. Good assist guy. Quite, but good in the room, though a bit small.

  33. Mueller has great numbers in the AHL, who knows where he fits? He’s older, so if Miller slips he could also jump in at center.

  34. Michael Sauer was a bust (albeit 2nd round)coming into his age 23 season. McIlrath is 22. Defensive defenseman take longer to develop, and he missed a year with injury. That doesn’t mean he is going to make it, and I’m not saying he should have gone in the 1st round, but you have to give it more time.

    Hate to be a broken record, but he is not a bust yet.

  35. Both played 4 years in the WHL. Sauer played three seasons in the AHL before he made the team. This will be McIrath’s third season.

  36. I’d have to say no to Pennercakes. Yes, he probably would cycle well with Brass & Zucc and get to the front of the net, but he can’t keep up in transition. He’d be the flowkiller.

  37. I think Penner would it more on the 4th line grinding line than with Brassard and MZA.

  38. Also, McIlrath development has nothing to do with Conor Allen. Two totally different types of defensemen. Boyle is signed for the next 2 years, that is probably a time frame they’ll be willing to evaluate McIlrath’s development. If he is ready any time sooner, it’s a nice problem to have.

  39. McLlrath is still very young. He’s a physical defenseman that plays high in the zone and can be physical in open space. If he can come up and play 3rd pair minutes and help slow down opposing teams by standing up at the blue line that will be VERY beneficial to a team that relies on transitional speed.

  40. The problem with McIlrath is when he was drafted the book on him was he needed to improve his skating ability which I didn’t notice any improvement and than he had a knee injury which made it worse, IMO. I do realize he is still very young and it usually does take defensemen years to get down the position. The knee injury he had though is not going to help his skating ability which needs to improve before he can play in the nhl.

  41. I get that some people are down on him because of where he was picked, and that some players drafted around him are in the NHL already.

    You just can’t expect every player to come in and contribute immediately. Some people were saying THE was a bust last year. Miller is a bust now. McD was 21 when he came up, and he’s just scratching the surface of his full potential at 25.

  42. Doodie Machetto on

    No, it’s not too early to call him a bust. The big difference between Sauer and McIlrath is draft position. Sauer was a 2nd round pick. He was not expected to contribute immediately, nor was he expected to have a very high ceiling. If he had either of those things, he would have been a first round pick.

    Which brings us to McIlrath, who was drafted 10th overall. Holding such a high position means that you are expected to either contribute quickly or have a high ceiling. Anything else means that you should have been selected lower in the draft and that you are a bust relative to where you were drafted.

    McIlrath is a bust. Undeniably so. He might eventually be an NHL player (doubtful), but will never be worth the draft pick the Rangers spent on him, especially when the obvious correct choice of Cam Fowler was staring them in the face.

  43. McIlrath can do some heavy lifting on the blue line.

    Meanwhile Fowler is playing “YOUNG BOYLE” minutes at the age of 22 starting his 5th NHL season, scoring 127 NHL points. Grrrrrr.

    McIlrath will go down as a 1’st Round DRAFT bust. He might get in a few more games than Jessiman, but it will go down as a bust.

    Will he be a top 6 on the Wolfpack this year?

  44. Doodie Machetto on

    Big difference with all of the guys you keep listing (Kreider, Miller, McDonagh) is that they hadn’t played much pro hockey before jumping to the pros.

    This is going to be McIlrath’s third pro season and he still hasn’t even shown he can really hack it at the AHL level.

  45. Doodie Machetto on

    Manny, most votes actually did not come from me, but I’ll admit I did stuff the box a bit on the first day.

  46. Doodie Machetto on

    That should read: hadn’t played much pro hockey before jumping to the NHL.

  47. Pure semantics here. He was drafted to be a physical force on the blue line, something NY didn’t have. If he produces in that capacity, how’s he a bust? Whether he should or shouldn’t have been picked that high is less important than his ultimate play in the league.

  48. Rob in Beantown on

    You really shouldn’t have allowed unlimited voting. It undermines the fairness of the whole competition and leads to the appearance of the whole thing being RIGGED.

  49. Doodie Machetto on

    Sioux, there’s 30 pages to look through. Tell me which one she’s on.

  50. There’s a difference between someone saying he’s a bust because he was drafted #10, and someone saying he’s a bust because they know for a fact that he will not contribute in the NHL.

  51. Doodie Machetto on

    It’s not semantics. He is a bust of a selection because there was such an obviously better player available to be taken. Even if he ends up as good as Beukeboom, we passed over Zubov to get him. It’s not even close.

    And to top it all off, he’ll be lucky to be John Erskine.

  52. I’m speculating here, but the rationale for not drafting Fowler was probably we have potential franchise offensive D-men in MDZ and McD, and we have a glaring physical D-man hole.

    And Fowler still isn’t a good defensive player.

  53. Doodie Machetto on

    Gravy, I’ll agree, those are two different statements. And while it’s mostly just conjecture on the second one, I think the first one is pretty indisputable at this point.

    This isn’t like something where there were a couple of choices, maybe you go this guy, maybe you go that guy, and one of the choices is much better. There was one, clear, obvious choice to be made. I was jumping up and down in my living room when Fowler fell to us.

  54. Doodie I would but it keeps changing.

    I found it on 15, but its never the same.

    Thane F with my girl holding he first King Salmon.

    Thanks Bud!!!!

  55. What *Gravy* said. This team badly needs a bruiser on Defense. If McLlrath fills that role he’s *NOT* a bust

  56. Doodie Machetto on

    Gravy, we all know what the rationale behind passing on Fowler was. The point is it was wrong. Would it really have hurt to have another top end puck moving defenseman? Look how in demand they are by pretty much every single team in the league. We could have dealt one to address a different need on our roster.

    Also, Fowler’s defensive game improved a ton this year.

  57. Doodie Machetto on

    Manny, but he will still be a bust because he will never be as good as Fowler.

  58. First of all, Fowler isn’t that good. Second of all, that’s not how you compare players. They are completely different players.

  59. Doodie Machetto on

    And guess what? We have a need for puck moving defenseman/PP QB, which Fowler could have filled.

  60. jimG the desertrat on

    Mcllrath will develop and start knocking the snot out of fishsticks,debbies and filthydolfia.

  61. Sioux, I found it, but the vote button’s not working. I’ll try when I get home.

  62. Doodie Machetto on

    If you’re saying Fowler isn’t that good, it means you haven’t been watching Fowler. He was excellent this year.

    I’m done with this. Mallards for Peace.

  63. I agree Gravy, but you take the BEST Athlete possible.

    I was also happy to see Fowler fall to #10, after watching him win a gold medal with the U18 USA team.

    McIlrath was even on the ice for Cananda in the U18 team.

    My picks would have been Fowler on D, or Tarensenko for a forward. Clearly the top two players in the tournament that week. USA wins over Russia. But Tarensenko was clearly the best forward on the ice, even though Russia lost. He had a ton of skill showing his talent, and he has already cracked St. Louis line up.

  64. One thing I agree with Doodie. Considering what Alex Goligoski brought back in a trade to Pittsburgh, you can never have too many offensive defensemen. They felt they found another Beuk.

  65. _Manny, but he will still be a bust because he will never be as good as Fowler._

    By this rationale, there were a lot of busts in the first six rounds of the 2000 draft.

  66. Cam Fowler has gotten a lot better as the Ducks have gotten better as a team. Coincidence? I think not. Also, he still hasn’t matched his Rookie season in point production.

  67. She’s climbing up the charts with 3 :)

    Now she’s on page 18, so it’s random. Only one with Thane under the pick :)

  68. Doodie Machetto on

    No, that’s a totally different rationale. When you are as highly touted, rated, and scouted as Fowler was, by everyone, there were no surprises with him other than how far he fell. A Swedish goaltender in the 7th round is a speculative pick because nobody really knows about the guy. It’s totally, totally different.

    Mallards for Peace

  69. I think we should wait until we hear what 28 year old women from Northern NJ have to say on the matter.


  70. Doodie Machetto on

    She was page 20 for me, but you needed a facebook to vote, so that disqualifies me.

  71. Doodie Machetto on

    I think women would go with Fowler. McIlrath looks like he hasn’t seen the sun in 10 years. Fowler is cute as a button.

  72. Norm Merton on

    Cam Fowler should check in here and comment. Wait, I’ve got him on the phone:

    “Hi, I’m Cam Fowler,” (he tells me) “and I’m 22 years old. I’ve played 265 NHL games and scored 116 points. Chicks dig me ’cause I rarely wear… wait, who’s this Dillard McIlroy again?”

  73. Jeeezus, what is it with this cam fowler thing?

    I mean fowler went to a situation (team playing style and need) that fit him. Just because he is working out with the ducks doesn’t mean he would have with the rangers or Nashville or Florida for example.

    It is all about location and timing with players, which we will find out on NATW and Pouliot this coming season as well.

  74. I’m vibin’ with manny. Penner is my first choice.

    I’d put kreider with brass and zucc (if we keep them both). Or maybe Nash.

  75. Norm Merton on

    So, iWicky, I assume we can say the same thing about McDonagh? That’s it’s the fit with the Rangers that made him good? And there I was thinking it was because he and Fowler were driven, top-notch hockey players who took their opportunities (McDonagh a bit later than Fowler) and ran with them.

  76. Doodie Machetto on

    I do not like Penner to replace Pouliot. Nor Heatley, nor Setoguchi. Let the kids play, take our lumps, and hope we can scrape into a playoff spot.

  77. As with MLB hitters, 5’7 and 150 lbs. swinging from the heels for the seats every at bat and striking out 150 times, way too many DMen in hockey are slow developers because they grow up concentrating on offensive numbers rather than learning a sold D. (See MDZ)

  78. I disagree Allen has passed mcilrath on the depth chart. You guys forget that AV likes left/right pairs so Allen is a lefty, mcilrath a righty. If it gets to the point of the rangers needing to bring up a left D, then I think it might be Allen (I believe hunwick is a lefty as well). If it’s a righty they need, I think it’s mcilrath that gets the call (kostka and kampfer are righties as well) before Allen.

    I also could see a scenario to add winger depth or a centre where Klein is part of the trade and the rangers use mcilrath as a 1.7 less per season option as 3rd pair right D depending on if the organization thinks slewfoot Dan is a 2nd pair guy.

  79. Slats and AV do NOT want to gamble with ‘scraping into a playoff spot’ unless they have absolutely no alternative.

  80. Doodie Machetto on

    I know they don’t, but nobody really excites me as a UFA. Everyone left is very slow and/or not good.

  81. Not large in the scheme of things, but very unusual for a Tanner Glass type guy to get 3 years here.

  82. Manny-O-War on

    I agree that everyone is not very good. The reason I like Penner is because he would cost about $700K or $900K and is a playoff beast.

  83. Doodie Machetto on

    The more I read about Brian Boyle, the more I want to puke. Simply no reason the Rangers couldn’t keep him around. None.

  84. Doodie
    Penner has never been fast, but he’s effective. Greatly has def slowed a bit. Setogucci is still pretty quick. Booth is decent. Ott is decent.

  85. how in hades did Carp
    get the assignment of
    Hot Dog Tour?!?!?!

    LoHud, you’re slipping!

  86. If I was Sather I wouldn’t sign anymore free agents, promote from within, see how much cap space is left after signing Brassard, Zucc, Kreider and moore and hopefully there will be some money left for cap flexibility. If the rangers need to improve you make the moves at the trade deadline.

  87. I’m not 100% convinced the rangers let Boyle get away. I could see a few reasons why Boyle might have decided to go to Tampa, 1: His wife is from that area, 2: Boyle realizes the rangers had there chance to win the cup, 3: Tampa is a up and coming team, 4: less taxes to pay, more money in his pocket, plus cost of living is cheaper. 5: also, Callahan and stralman are now on the team who he knows well with the rangers.

  88. Tommy – I’m sure the commute to work, and the weather might have tipped the scales. Then again a “happy wife” makes everything better :)

  89. Boyle would have re-signed if he was given more responsibility. I’m not buying the wife/taxes BS. The guy just wants to play more hockey, AV wouldn’t let him.

    And now that Pullout is off the team, Boyle will see less time on the PK.

  90. Manny-O-War on

    Manuel Neuer is really good. Maybe I should say I named myself after him?

  91. Rob in Beantown on

    Why do people think “manure” is such a bad thing? It’s made out of “newer” which is good, and “Ma” in front of it.

  92. Manny-O-War on

    Can we get the Devils’ reporter out of the Widget? He’s really great and all but he’s also tweeting about the DEVILS

  93. Giants came back when down 7-0 six times last year. Don’t tell me it can’t be done!

  94. Germany is crazy good.

    Brazil reminds me of the Broncos. All that fire power and talent, but they forget to show up when it counts the most.

  95. Doodie Machetto on

    David Booth is my vote for cheap reclamation project. Don’t think he’s an option given his history with AV.

  96. Want to talk about busts….

    Dale Rolfe was an absolute bust, didn’t stick in the league until he was almost 27, didn’t play top pair minutes until he was 30. Didn’t play top pair defense on the team with the leagues’ fewest goals against until he was 31!!!!!

    What a hopeless bust!!!!!!!

  97. bull dog line on

    been gone a few days and nothings changed. you all think the Eastern Conference Champions stink. still upset they let a 4th liner walk. still don’t know how they are going to replace a journeyman.

  98. Penner makes a lot of sense. Just need him to relearn how to skate. I like him to replace Poo on the 3rd line. Unless you think Duclair is ready. That’s a pipe dream, IMO.

    Someone needs to call Barb Underhill!

  99. bull dog line on

    you guys would chase Penner out of town by December. Heatly by November, and Setoguchi in training camp. better off finding out if Miller, Fast, Lindberg, and Kristo can do it. if not you make a move during the season.

  100. Kreider – Stepan – Nash

    Zuccarello – Brassard – MSL

    Hagelin – Miller – Kristo

    Fast – Moore – Glass

  101. “The more I read about Brian Boyle, the more I want to puke. Simply no reason the Rangers couldn’t keep him around. None.”

    Yes, there is a reason. AV and Sather refused to even entertain the thought of him on the third line and made public comments that Boyle needed to find somewhere else to play if that’s what he wanted.

  102. This is where AV just pisses me off. No reason to make those comments. No reason to make Boyle believe that he is destined to the 4th line forever.

  103. Rangers offer Boyle 2.7 per for 3 years he’s back. 1 mil raise from last year 1.7 cap hit

  104. What a difference from Torts, where ice-time was merited on play during the game and nothing else.

  105. bull dog line on

    you are kidding about Boyle, right? the reason Boyle had such a good year was because of how AV used him. when Torts tried to force Boyle as a 3rd liner down our throats, he stunk. 4th liner playing 10 to 12 minutes a game, he is valuable. that is the role tampa will put him in as well.

  106. bull dog line on

    and NYR, you are so full of crap, Torts played guys based on merit. how often did you complain about Zucc, and Torts not playing him. who did AV play not based on merit? he friggin took Nash off the GD power play!

  107. Disagree. I believe John Cooper will use Boyle in a similar role that Torts did. He’s there to replace Nate Thompson, who was their third line center and left…

    Boyle is a top defensive forward in the League, IMO. I like him on the ice in defensive situations. He had better regular seasons under Torts than this one under AV. Just because he doesn’t have gaudy offensive numbers doesn’t mean he isn’t able to play 3rd line.

    It’s a different system, bulldog. Do you think for a second Torts would have put up with Pouliot’s penalties?

  108. BS! I never complained about Torts not playing Zucc! Maybe I whined that I wanted to see Zucc play. Torts always spoke highly of him!

    Zucc wouldn’t be the player he is today without Torts!

  109. bull dog line on

    Thompson was there 4th line center. he played pretty much the same amount of minutes per game as Boyle.
    did letting Pouliot play through his penalties help or hurt the Rangers in the long run?
    I am not saying Boyle is not a good defensive center. I know he is. I am saying as a 3rd liner he gets exposed. 3rd liner NEED to produce offensively. the Rangers top 3 centers last year all had 45 or more points. Boyle will not sniff that.

  110. bull dog line on

    one other thing NYR. I was a Torts fan. did not like it when they fired him, but AV is a better coach. Sather made the right choice.

  111. The King is Dead on

    “Zucc wouldn’t be the player he is today without Torts!”

    Load of donkey manure.

  112. iDoodie Machetto on

    Boyle gave an interview where he pretty much admitted that he’s going to be playing the exact same role for Tampa.

  113. Norm
    I’m not “discounting” a players physical abilities, but what I am saying is coaching, a teams system, and teammates can make a difference in a players success or failure.

    It happens all the time, “changes of scenery” moves. Certain guys fit certain systems better.

    No way fowler survives under torts and plays right away like he did with the ducks. He probably wouldn’t have played for a few seasons with the rangers. Not to mention mdz (right or wrong) was the up and coming offencive d man in the organization.

    Whether or not we needed another offencive d man or a physical d man can be debated forever, but there is no way in he anyone (myself included) can say with certainty that fowler would have done well here or not.

    It’s all just speculation (on my part as well).

  114. Manny-O-War on


    8 year extensions for Kane and Toews. *$10.5* mil aav each.

  115. The Hawks are going to have quite a cap crunch next year. They will now have $71.8M in contracts and will have 7 UFA/RFA including 4 defenseman.

  116. Doodie Machetto on

    Gravy, Capgeek shows them at 65MM for next season. Also, one of the UFA is Richards, and the four defensemen equate to seven on their roster.

    It’s really not that bad. They’ll probably lose Oduya.

  117. So the Hawks have signed up their captain (a legit #1 center) and their #1 winger to huge deals, with the cap expected to continue to rise and them both being still around 25 it gives them a legit threat for the next 8-9 years.
    Have to think Hossa’s days are numbered?

  118. Manny-O-War on

    “Dude, this is Smokey. Look, I don’t wanna be a hard-on about this, and I know it wasn’t your fault, but I just thought it was fair to tell you that Gilbert and I will be submitting this to the League and asking them to set aside the round, I don’t know, or maybe, forfeit it to us–so, like I say, just thought, you know, fair warning. Tell Walter. I’m sorry.”

  119. Although the Hawks have already used up their 2 buyouts on Montador and Olesz

    If Hossa retires before the end of the deal the Hawks will be charged $4.275m each year as part of the recapture penalty. WOW!!

  120. @tpanotchCSN: PHI still wonder what would’ve been had the lottery balls gone their way [re: Kane] back in ’07”

    Chicago – 71 points
    Philly – 56 Points

    That lottery fugged them up badly. They drafted JVR then traded him for Luke Schenn. Total failure in every way.

    Philly could have drafted McDonut, Shattenkirk, Couture.

  121. Doodie Machetto on

    I think they’ll work something out with Hossa and/or they’re counting on the next lockout resolving his recapture issue.

  122. Doodie – the only way i can see them resolving Hossa is through LTIR – but even then he’d be on their summer payroll (like Pronger is for the Flyers for 3 more seasons)

  123. Doodie Machetto on

    UK, obviously that would be preferably to having the recapture penalty.

    Maybe they wave a hugely overpaid front office job if he “plays” out his contract.

  124. Manny-O-War on

    You know, Dude, I, myself, dabbled in pacifism at one point. Not in ‘nam, of course.

  125. Manny-O-War on

    “Mr. Lebowski, this is Bill Selliger of the Southern Cal Bowling League, and I just got uh, an informal report that a member of your team, a Walter Sobchak, drew a firearm during league play. If this is true, of course, it contravenes a number of the league’s bylaws and also article 27 of the league……………………serious infraction and examine your standing. Thank you.”

  126. Manny-O-War on

    *The NHLPA has announced the following dates for arbitration hearings* :

    Chris Kreider: July 23
    Mats Zuccarello: July 25
    Derick Brassard: July 28

  127. Manny-O-War on

    @ByKevinAllen Congratulations to *Kathryn Tappen* who joins NBC Sports Group. Case of talent being rewarded.

  128. NBC Sports just went up in my book.

    She was such a joy to watch on NHL network.

  129. Manny-O-War on

    You can still search her on Google Images, Sioux. I will be doing that…starting…now!

  130. Doodie Machetto on

    They should hire Weekes, too. He’s good, and importantly, he’s not white.

  131. Manny-O-War on

    Are you saying it was Affirmative Action that got her the job and not her skill?

  132. Toews, Parise, Zajac, Stafford, Oshie and Greene have now inked deals worth about $387 million in their careers.

    That’s why you want to play for the Sioux.

    Siouxper Contracts!!!

  133. Doodie Machetto on

    And how about developing a female analyst. Get an explayer pr something.

  134. Manny in a way such a HUGE loss for NHL Network.

    At least the coverage will be better on NBC, but I think we lose in minutes lost for Tappen Time.

  135. Tappen is better than ALL the Males on NBC put together.

    Great move by NBC, deeper pockets had to be a huge raise for her.

  136. Afternoon wrap up:

    A) Doodie thinks the Aryan Nation runs NBC.

    2) Manny comes up with the funnier Lebowski quotes.

    D) Sioux did mancrush math and came up with a large number.

    5) Toews and Kane are rich.

    G) Tappen is hot.

  137. Never mind, it’s big lebowski…I haven’t seen it.

    7) Wicky has never seen the big lebowski.

  138. Manny-O-War on


    Hearing 7 years, $6 million per for Cory Schneider. Those numbers were thrown around by some others earlier this week.


    *LOLOLOL* that’s insanity for an unproven guy.

  139. Booby I copied and pasted. To busy doing math at work!

    But I have to drop in once or twice for a “smoke” break :)

  140. _Gravy, Capgeek shows them at 65MM for next season._

    I mistakenly looked at salary payroll instead of cap payroll.

    Kathryn Tappen is the best looking (only?) female hockey reporter, but she is average as far as women on TV.

  141. @rangersreport: NYR arbitration sked:
    Derick Brassard – July 28, 2014
    Chris Kreider – July 23, 2014
    Mats Zuccarello – July 25, 2014

  142. Robby Bonfire on

    What he said: “I wanted to go to the New York Rangers.”

    What he would have said on truth syrum:

    “I wanted to go to the New York Rangers – the NHL’s version of an elephant graveyard, and besides, no one else would take me, given my age and contract demands, and the career downside toboggan I am on.

  143. Walter, ya know, it’s Smokey, so his toe slipped over the line a little, big deal. It’s just a game, man.

  144. 1 yr 1 mil I’m sorry no reason we shouldn’t taken a shot on him replace pouliot

  145. Manny-O-War on

    If you asked me to choose Pouliot or Heatley, given their current contracts, I take Heatley 100/100 times.

  146. If anyone interested msg plus is replaying rick Nash return to Columbus tonight at 9:00 to 11:00. The one game he was a beast.


    I couldn’t bear another all europansy world cup final!

  148. This kid Jonathan Drouin (Drew-Anne) on Tampa is already being talked aboot as next year’s rookie of the year.

  149. He’s going to be good with stamkos…of course we would all look good with stamkos ;)

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