Game 2: Rangers-Flyers in review


Editor’s note: Sorry for the lack of photos. WordPress has really been acting up, and it eats up paragraphs when I put in photos … so I had to remove them all. — Carp.


1) Apologies because, once again, as always this time of year, I cannot understand some of the craziness that shows up here. And there was a lot of craziness here Sunday. Stupid craziness. Holy moley. Series over. This guy sucks, that guy sucks, no effort, no heart, no onions. What a pile of bull some of you shoveled. Not all of you. Most understand that it’s pretty rare for a team to go 16-0 in the playoffs and never allow a goal. Can’t remember the last time that happened. Maybe somebody can run the Corsi numbers on that for me.

2) That said, the Rangers weren’t good enough in this game. They weren’t as good as they were in Game 1. The Flyers were better than they were in Game 1. But the Rangers weren’t bad for all 60, either. This was still a winnable game. They gave up two dreadful goals from a defensive standpoint, and one very lucky-bounce power-play goal, and an empty-netter. Stuff like this happens. It happened to Boston, to Pittsburgh, to Chicago.

3) Two plays, I thought, turned this game, with help from the momentum-turning penalty by Carl Hagelin. Both were goals. Jakub Voracek taking that great little pass from Scott Hartnell and going around Ryan McDonagh was a huge point in the game because A) it came from Voracek and his linemates (including Claude Giroux) who were zeroes in Game 1 and in three other games against McDonagh, Dan Girardi and the Rangers this season and B) it came against McDonagh, who wasn’t great all day, and Girardi, who had a really difficult time. I thought Girardi could have cut off Voracek once he got around McDonagh, and I thought Henrik Lundqvist could have poked it away from Voracek. The other was the  goal  on a simple 3-on-3, or even 3-on-4, on which both Mats Zuccarello and Derick Brassard took a nap, gliding back and leaving Luke Schenn alone.

4) So the Flyers snapped their nine-game losing streak at MSG. I said before the series, I thought it would be better for the Rangers to start on the road. Better to split on the road and come home, than split at home then go on the road. But I thought it would be 1-1 after two, and I think it will be 2-2 after four. I really do.

5) Girardi and Hartnell had some nice run-ins. I thought Hartnell played a smarter, more disciplined game in Game 2. That little rivalry goes back a way. I remember Girardi pounding Hartnell in 2010 (click here), one of the five NHL fights Girardi’s had. I also remember the moment in “24/7” where the Flyers were talking about starting a line brawl and Hartnell volunteered to fight Girardi (it never materialized).

6) Going back to the onions factor, I don’t believe guts or courage or any of that stuff had anything to do with the outcome of either game. I think the Rangers are fine with the Flyers’ rugged ways, and I think Philly has been pretty good against the Rangers’ speed. So far.

7) I will add, I thought the rule book apparently, in a couple of days, must have been completely re-written, because there sure were a different set of rules from the start of Game 1, when everything was let go, to the start of Game 2, when it was back to ticky-tack stuff. Also, the refs — who seem to be overmatched every single night in every game — sure made some bad decisions when evening up with some mind-boggling coincidental calls. As bad as the officiating has been, there really were some brainless penalties taken in this game on both sides.

8) And the embellishent calls? I am in the minority. I like having that penalty in the books because the diving throughout the league had become an epidemic. That said, if a ref’s going to call the embellishment penalty, he better be sure, and I think both of the calls against Zuccarello or Derek Dorsett were guesses, at best. Both players were clearly fouled. I thought Zuccarello was off balance and fell over the side of the net. Dorsett was cross-checked from behind into the boards. Even if he did embellish — I didn’t think he did — that cross-check’s got to give the Rangers a power play.

9) Not that they would have scored. The power play went 1-for-6. I thought the 4-on-3 PP was the worst of the bunch. I thought the two first-period PPs that didn’t score were both better than the one that did score (Benoit Pouliot’s changeup) off the rush. Alain Vigneault thought two of the power plays in the second were excellent. Not sure I agree. Just sayin’ I didn’t think the power play was awful, but it had plenty of opportunity to make a difference at 2-2 and at 3-2.

10) That too-many-men penalty when Lundqvist was going to the bench and stopped and Brad Richards jumped on, that was just a perfect ending …  and the correct call.

11) Daily Nash-O-Meter. I’ve said this before. He’s a bottom-line guy. But he was pretty good in this game, played a big part on the first goal, got a pile of shots on Ray Emery (part of a gameplan that not everybody else is following), and has 13 in two games. Was easily NOT one of the worst Rangers in this game. His linemates, Derek Stepan and Martin St. Louis, were good too, though that line was on for the Voracek goal.

12) An aside: the Rangers practiced that cross-ice pass quite a bit Saturday in practice, the East-West pass Dave Maloney called it, which produced both goals. Not sure if they thought Emery had trouble with that play (what goalie wouldn’t?) or if they thought the Flyers defense would allow it. I will add, Stepan made a beauty of a pass on St. Louis’ goal, but he turned down a prime chance in the slot to make that pass, when they really want to be getting pucks at Emery. So, I guess I’m saying, if you make that pass, it damn well better end up in the net. It did.

13) Vinny Lecavalier? Woof.

14) For both games, I thought the Garden crowd was uncharacteristically good … throughout Game 1, especially. It started well in Game 2, also, and the Rangers gave them an opportunity to roar with the 2-0 lead. The “We Want Hextall” chant was a classic. But the crowd very quickly quieted, and a lot of people left down 3-2 in the third. Also, if you want a loud crowd, here’s an idea. Hand out white towels. Those make a ton of noise.

My Three Rangers Stars:
1. Martin St. Louis.
2. Derek Stepan.
3. Benoit Pouliot.
Kenny Albert’s Three Rangers Stars:
1. Martin St. Louis.
2. Benoit Pouliot.
3. Dominic Moore.
Josh Thomson, 26’s Three Rangers Stars:
1. Martin St. Louis.
2. Rick Nash.
3. Henrik Lundqvist.
Your poll vote for Three Rangers Stars:
1. Mats Zuccarello.
2. Martin St. Louis.
3. Derek Dorsett.

Photos by Getty Images.

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  1. Thanks Carp, a little sanity hopefully goes a long way. Our power play has gotten predictable on the rush, seems like its too easy to break up. I know they’re good at the PK but we need some new ideas. Please buy out BR, I hope he leads us to a Stanley Cup but really…

  2. Totally winnable game. The flyers did more of the little things that turn a game like that. Now it’s going to be a long series. Too bad. The better team will take it. LGR

  3. Good morning, boneheads!

    Good review, Carp. You should be used to it by now though. It’s a function of being too emotionally attached to this team- people loose their clear thinking if this team looses a game. Especially in the POs. Some posters who show up only during bad games is a different story. Their comments are usually very..umm.. deprived of any hockey knowledge.

    About this game. Down 2-0 the Flyers all of a sudden realized they may be looking at a very short run here. And they got desperate, and they got better. The Rangers couldn’t match. They played down to Flyers strength, not on their terms. McD will take time to get back to his top game, it seems. I wonder if, on top of not being back to his best physically, he also feels a target on his back. MZA was the main culprit on the third goal. Klein was too high up and the slot uncovered on the second.

    Emery was good when he needed to. He is still their Achilles’ heel though, and needs to be tested better.

    Two pretty evenly matched teams, nobody expected 4-0. On to PA!

  4. Flyers broke the rangers defense down six times yesterday. They scored the voracek goal on one of them. Henrik saved five sure goals with amazing saves. Six golden opportunities does not include the pinball Johnny on the spot goal for number two but Stepan should have been near the kid he was wide open or the rebound goal brassards line left Shenn open to pick up the garbage. With that said the awesome opportunities Nash had and Stepan has when the Philly defense is broken down one of them has to go in. This was an overtime in the making. It never should have come to simmonds empty netter. Oh well. They know what they need to work on for Tuesday.

  5. Great review, Carp, but I disagree on the 1-1 series…as you and others note, the game was winnable. Look at series status (don’t know why I do not see Rangers-Phylly up there, they don’t rate?) 4 of them are 2-0 after the first home games. Yes, not all are 2-0, but most are.

  6. I heard Joe Micheletti on Thursday on the fan saying Emery’s hip issue has left him with issues moving side to side. Maybe this is why they are making so many east – west passes?


  7. C&C. I can go to work now, having read the definitive account.

    And let’s not kill the PP (ho, ho) until it’s no longer operating at 25%, higher than the best NHL team average this season.

  8. “people loose their clear thinking if this team looses a game.”

    You were saying about being deprived of knowledge…

  9. Sioux-per-man on

    Flyers will win 1 more game before this series is over. Rangers in 6.

    Have a SIOUXper off and running on a Monday!

  10. Embellishment calls were a joke but what else can you expect from the NHL at this point. On the bright side maybe Flyers leave Emery in next game and Rangers score 6 on him

  11. Great review Carp. The one thing I will add is I thought this was the worst game that the Brassard line has played since they were matched together. They looked overmatched all night, and I think that the Flyers had Zuc off his game with the annoying stuff they do. If that line focuses in game 3, the team will play much better. I liked that AV had Boyle on at the end of the game when they were trying to catch up. I thought the 4th line was real good again.

    Think we see Carcillo instead of Fast in game 3?

  12. Yes, he was terrible. On the third goal, he directed the puck off a weak Flyers shot directly onto the tape of Schenn in front of the net. It was only one bad game, but Lundqvist has to be sharp for the Rangers to advance.

  13. Carp, Rangers deserved to lose the game. I agree.

    The refs were a horror show. Not was either of those was embellishment. I hate that rule. Always have. It is either a penalty or it isn’t penalty. The one on Dorsett was blatant! How did he dive on that one!! Come on!!

    Do these refs ever get evaluated, fined or chastised for bad calls or missed calls. I don’t get that feeling. Also the calls are not uniform from one Ref to the next.

    Is hit the guys stick out of his hands allowed or not? Or is it only not allowed if you break his sticks. Giroux knocked the stick out of McDonagh’s hands and no penalty. During regular season that was a penalty. Wasn’t it???

  14. Miami Playoff Pimp on

    Refs sucked, but Rangers sucked more.

    I called the 4-2 loss (w/ EN goal) after the Flyers’ first goal.

    But who didn’t? It was obvious that the mercenaries would execute my prediction to the tee.

  15. Montreal Light Show was great but our company issued tickets to “I don’t know a clothes line from a blue line but I’ll go, isn’t that hockey team called the Knicks or something?” fans would be texting videos of the light show instead of cheering the team on.

  16. Stranger Nation on

    If McD and Girardi go -2 we are not winning many more games unless we finish those chances and play better in neutral zone.
    Filth stinks!

  17. Stranger Nation on

    Don’t mind Fast, but would move Dorsett up to that line and put Carcillo on 4th line. Dorsett and Hags could reek havoc.

  18. It’s a real crap shoot I think with the whole Carcillo/Fast/Miller idea. The chance that they score themselves is very low. The chance that they help someone score is a bit better. The chance that they play responsible defense and help the Rangers out is the best.

    So who gives them the best chance there? I’m not changing the lineup just because they lost one game. I didn’t expect them to sweep. But I do think it’s a valuable thought process to maybe swap around the bottom six guys by putting one of those guys in.

    I said before the series that I would play Carcillo and move Dorsett up. I still stand by that but I think Fast has been more than fine.

  19. I think the difference was the Flyers coming out in the second period not trying to outhit the Rangers. It was like for 4 periods, the Flyers only cared about beating up the Rangers and nothing else. Then once they stopped, it became a competitive series.

    If they continue this, I agree with you that it’ll be 2-2 after four. Both teams are evenly matched.

  20. Fast’s been just fine. So has fourth line. Why change it? They got outworked by a more desperate team. A few defensive brain cramps. Different game tomorrow. They don’t look *fatigued* yet, do they? :-)

  21. Does anybody know if Wes McCauley was the one who made the embellishment calls?

    First time any team ever had 2 embellishment calls on them in the same game. Of course it happens to NYR.

  22. It’s funny for some idiot to come and blame this all on Lundqvist who had *NO* chance on goals 2 and 3. And none of the goals allowed were the result of rebounds. Not a single one.

  23. Can someone explain to me the rationale behind the fine (20K) received by coach Q for grabbing his own shallots and 5K given to Lucic for trying to castrate DeKeyser? Oh, yeah, her’s only done it 3 times in his career…

  24. Hank was ok, Emery was better not on Hank, but he is going to get the heat because of the contract and he hasn’t carried us a series that we shouldn’t have won and we have lost series that we weren’t supposed to…..fair or not that’s where it’s coming from. BTW we will beat Philly because of the ……goaltending issue. Book it.

  25. Shoot the puck Barry on

    simple fact….henrik needs to be the best player on the ice…or they won’t win

  26. As baffling as the officiating was, I don’t think it really hurt the Rangers. The only thing that hurt the Rangers was the Rangers, who seemed to prematurely press cruise control after going up 2-0. Whoops.

    Also, that 12:00 start on Easter Sunday? Bush league.

  27. The thing that bugged me the most is this:

    we didn’t play well, philly let us hang around and we couldn’t cash in.

  28. The 4-3 was the turning point. Carp makes a fair point, not much practice on that. Needed to score or at least shoot the puck massively on that pp

  29. Also:

    Lisa answers the phone by just saying “Discover Card” instead of introducing herself by name the way any normal customer service phone rep would. Why is she answering like that? Has she not been properly trained? Did she just start the job and is that why Julie doesn’t know she works at Discover yet?

    But how did she get the job if she doesn’t even know how to properly answer the phone? Is that why Julie is surprised she’s working as a call rep for Discover? Is that why Julie remarks that she “sounds very different on the phone”? Have they literally never talked on the phone before? Why? WHY?!

  30. Miami Playoff Pimp on

    “How about this kid Nathan MacKinnon”

    He’s better than Kentucky Fried POULET, that’s for sure.

  31. Thanks for the write up notch as always.
    The boys will bounce back.

    Sire Father!!!

  32. The only two things that hurt the Rangers was:

    1.) Their own PP; and

    2.) Horrendous weak-side Defense

  33. Chrisl77: Tomorrows game is on *MSG*. The only games on NBC are the Sunday games.

  34. Jeff in South Dakota on

    Good review, spot on. They lost one game — ain’t gonna go 16 – 0. Exciting series thus far. I like the fact that the Rangers have four fairly balanced lines (at last).

  35. Again the pp at end of the 1st period could have changed and stabilized the game. That last 2 mins of 1st was a key

  36. I’m still pretty pissed off about #8. That was plain and simple the refs not wanting to further widen the penalty gap that Philadelphia had earned.

  37. I was relegated to the radio for all but the last five minutes, and a large portion of the 2nd was being interrupted with static, but I’d venture to say that Lundqvist didn’t stink. It also sounded like Emery was pretty good once the game got 2-0, especially in the 2nd. How many comments were made about the NYR shooting right into the logo?

  38. Meshuggah1902 on

    Im normally not one to complain about players performances but Im getting tired of watching Rick Nash. When is this 6’4″ 213lbs power forward with great skills and making 7.8 million going to show up?

  39. It seemed the 62 – 19 – 12 line had very litlle offensive zone pressure yesterday compared with game 1. Not much forecheck, some shots but no real scoring chances (until Nash double shifted and replaced Fast in the 3rd period).

    Game 3 on the road, preferred match-ups will be tougher to get. I would sit Fast, move Dorsett up and put Carcillo or Miller with Boyle and JMoops.

  40. Papa, the forecheck argument is definitely one you could make. However, Fast (and that line) was pretty good on the forecheck in Game 1. I don’t think Carcillo should be dressed because of toughness, like others have suggested.

  41. 13 shots is a great stat. but, many were quality scoring chances?

    Game 1? most were wrist shots from the perimeter of the rush.

    Yesterday, he had better quality shots in the 2nd half of the game. Let’s hope he keeps it going like that in Philly and finds the back of the net.

  42. Apparently the embellishment stat out there is incorrect. Montreal had 3 in one playoff game — 2 on Lapierre, 1 on Gionta.

  43. Stranger Nation on

    Nash has 13 shots and 2 scoring chances..quality, not quantity.
    Is the game plan is to take weak wristers from the blue line?

  44. Game plam or not, they’ve had had succes scoring when they controlled the puck in the Ozone and passed it to the open man.

  45. More from 30 and 61. Anyone satisfied with those types of efforts are those who happily accept first round exits year after year.

  46. Sioux -Hat Trick- Get in the Game on

    Manny – check your personal email. I sent a pic clean shaven.

    Unless I’m too late :(

  47. Sioux -Hat Trick- Get in the Game on

    Pimp – That MacKinnon (18yr) kid, is killing THE KREIDER’s chance at the Calder.

  48. One of the analysts (Maloney?) said wrist shots off the rush from the Blueline with no one screening or going hard to the net for rebounds wont cut it. He’d like to see Nash use his speed, back the D in and carry the puck towards the scoring areas.

  49. Here is a great still of Hagelin’s face being destroyed:

    @jtbourne High stick, or no? You be the judge.

  50. Sioux -Hat Trick- Get in the Game on

    Nice find Manny!

    I can’t believe they called that a high stick :)

  51. Make hand-out rally towels out of Dooogay’s ‘dress’ shirts. Can’t get any louder than that.

  52. The towels being handed out are SO STUPID. I assume they do that because it’s an incredibly inexpensive thing to hand out, right?

  53. ThisYearsModel on

    Well, this will be a long series. I have been pleasantly surprised by the onions displayed by the Rangers. I wasn’t sure they existed, and I was wrong. The first time I saw it was the Columbus game. The question is………can they withstand the abuse, get inside the D and score some dirty goals. If they are a perimeter team they could well go out this round.

  54. Very weak move to take officials’ names off their backs. Like cops with no name-tags or numbers on their shields so they can’t be readily ID’d and held accountable.

  55. Right. But I mean, the Sponsor can’t have to pay that much for these towels. If I actually tried to use on I might damage my face irreparably.

  56. “Right. But I mean, the Sponsor can’t have to pay that much for these towels. If I actually tried to use on I might damage my face irreparably.”

    Let’s find out!

  57. Sather Must Go! on

    Despite the dmen being good, they are STILL missing that big crease-clearing dman, more than ever in this series.. Simmonds just stands in front of Lunqvist and waits to be hit, but never gets touched; Vorachek (who seems to score every game vs LQ), had no fear rushing the net and play a “tough guy” game yesterday…

    Nash’s game/intensity does not increase in the POs, not in his make-up – if he scores great, but he is not bringing any intangibles to the table..

  58. If the team and MSG were really committed to the decibal level, they’d hand out Purim graders to the fans instead of baby wipes

  59. Sioux -Hat Trick- Get in the Game on

    Ilb & Gravy 1 & 2 in the Hat Trick Contest.

    Not giving credit to the top 2 if they don’t claim themselves.

  60. Anyone who doesn’t think that a nasty cheap shot artist bearing down on you doesn’t adjust your decision making is deluding himself.

  61. Fran “Mensa” Healy to Henrik: “If a fight broke out on the ice, would you fight your brother?” What a rusty tool!

  62. Stranger Nation on

    They got little baby legs
    That stand so low
    You got to pick em up
    Just to say hello
    They got little cars
    That go beep, beep, beep
    They got little voices
    Goin’ peep, peep, peep
    They got grubby little fingers
    And dirty little minds
    They’re gonna get you every time
    Well, I don’t want no short people
    Don’t want no short people
    Don’t want no short people
    ‘Round here

  63. Stranger Nation on

    I’ve found it is very difficult to win in the Hat Trick Challenge when you do not place an entry that evening.

  64. I remain shocked that a grizzly team doesn’t just run Richards out of the building. Guess they don’t think he’s worth that much worrying about.

  65. Sioux -Hat Trick- Get in the Game on

    Coos – I would pick out a new broom, you have ZERO. The good news you are not alone. I think Mrs. Sioux is right next to you, Boobs is on the same page.

    Nasty hasn’t rigged this one. Ilb and Gravy are 2 for 4, so they can be caught.

    You can make picks for the next 5 days. Get them in!!!

  66. Nash, with his skills, should score every game. Why he didn’t have 82 in the regular season is beyond me. Oh, wait, concussion — fine, he should have had 65 goals. And now he only has 2 points in 2 playoff games. When, I say, when is he going to start earning his money? And don’t even get me started on Lundqvist, who’s just killing us right now. Carcillo and Talbot in for Game 3, Nash and Lundqvist out.

  67. Hate New York City
    It’s cold and it’s damp
    And all the people dressed like monkeys
    Let’s leave Chicago to the Eskimos
    That town’s a little too rugged
    For you and me, you bad girl

    ‘Hate New York City
    It’s cold and it’s damp
    And all the people dressed like monkeys
    Let’s leave Chicago to the Eskimos
    That town’s a little too rugged
    For you and me, you bad girl

    Rollin’ down the Imperial Highway
    With a big nasty redhead at my side
    Santa Ana wind blowin’ hot from the north
    And we was born to ride

    We LOVE LA!’

  68. Sioux -Hat Trick- Get in the Game on

    Manny leads the ZERO with 8 correct picks, but ZERO Hats.

    Greg is he a regular in here? Not sure who GregsGrunts might be, did he wonder in over the weekend?

  69. I’ve forgotten about the Hat Trick Challenge pretty much everyday, Stranger.

    It’s cool though because it’s *optional*.

  70. Courage, Heart, Determination, Energy, Competitiveness, Grit, Leadership:

    Dubi >>> Nash


    Nash >> Dubi

    I’d take Dubi, every time.

  71. Sioux -Hat Trick- Get in the Game on

    SN – you’re not far behind. 3 picks. Not as easy as it looks.

  72. I think I end up getting in that Hat Trick thing every third day. Easy to slip the mind.

  73. Sioux -Hat Trick- Get in the Game on

    Papa – Nothing better than watching Dubi hit Crosby again & again. Something you never see Nash do.

    Dubi is more fun to watch! But can he outscore Nash?

    Nash tied the Ranger record for game winning goals.

  74. Sioux -Hat Trick- Get in the Game on

    I was just hoping Nash could have a game as good as that 18yr old MacKinnon kid. Is that too much to ask for?

  75. No, Papa. You’re assuming that being alive is not *Optional*. It is optional. Thus, you don’t *have* to breathe. It’s just your *OPTION*

  76. Speaking of Jumbo shrimp…I’m going to an *All you can eat* Clam Broil tonight. Including…

    Mac & cheese
    Green salad

  77. Odds on getting the Hat Trick in the *optional* contest are better than the odds of Nash potting one of his patented 65 foot wrist shots while crossing the Blueline.

  78. Good point Manny. However, when not alive, *optional* and *mandatory* no longer matter.

  79. I just declared to the rest of my coworkers that tomorrow is Pants *Optional* day at the office.

    This is gonna be great!

  80. Miami Playoff Pimp on

    The point is, ladies and gentle men, that being tied 1-1, for lack of a better word, is bush-league. Bush-league is the right word choice, bush-league works. Bush-league clarifies, cuts through and captures the essence of the situation. Bush-league, in all of its forms; bush-league in goal, on the power play, for perimeter play, for embellishment has marked the downward surge of this series. And bush-league, you mark my words, will not only take down the Rangers, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the NHL.

  81. Rick Nash: Every playoff game played, making Brad Richards compliance buyout an arguable choice.

  82. Nash wouldn’t be a compliance buyout, BlueJay. Would have to be a regular buyout, if they were ever going to do it. So there’s really no decision. His cap recapture penalty doesn’t exist, I don’t believe.

  83. One of the analysts (Maloney?) said wrist shots off the rush from the Blueline with no one screening or going hard to the net for rebounds wont cut it. He’d like to see Nash use his speed, back the D in and carry the puck towards the scoring areas.

    Dead on Papa Bear.

    Check out the angle Nash attacks the net at. When he’s non-engagement Nash, its always to the outside post, which basically means he’s conceding that area of the ice to the defender and the goalie. So by the time he’s at the net he’s always at a bad angle and sweeps around the net or lets off a bad angle wrist shot.

    When he’s engaged. He can pull off the same move Voracek did, bc with his speed and skill goalie flinch when you come right at them.

    But Im telling you , I said it to my father last March, if Nash didn’t come to the Rangers willing and wanting play that way from the get-go, how are you gonna teach that to an established 29 year old star. And to expect he’s gonna play like that after these concussions, knowing his demeanor is delusional.

    The team is in the middle of the playoffs, so I won’t say right now what needs to be done. But ask me when the season ends, and I’ll tell you the Rangers best course of action going forward. Ill hint at it, its being pro-active with a personnel decision.

    And my opinion Carp, Nash is not the guy I want throwing bad angle shots from the boards on the blue-line. To me, he of the mindset, where he’ll just do that all day long and then say to himself, I’m doing the right thing, look at the number of shots, maybe one will go in.

    The rangers need Nash with the mindset of Im going to put the puck in the net. Period.

    I feel like Nash like Richards is too easily content.

  84. Nah difference is Nash can be traded. And to the right team with right canadien GM, you could still get some value.

    Im not a fan of Max Pac, but I think there could be a trade to be made there with those two being centerpieces.

  85. Who said anything about dismantling? Rick Nash is an over rated, lackadaisical, poor excuse for a power forward, who fails at playoff Hockey.

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