Rangers-Oilers in review



1) Kinda difficult to make heads or tails out of this game, what with Edmonton being such a Northern Tire Fire, with the Rangers getting some really fortunate bounces, and it really wasn’t a very physical game at all, etc. But the Rangers played well. They defended. They created a little bit, and used their speed at times on that great sheet of ice.

New York Rangers v Edmonton Oilers2) Mostly, they responded to a very sloppy loss in the other part of Alberta on Friday, and that’s what good teams do. That’s what the ’11-12 team did. Have a stinker? Come right back with a solid win.

3) That said … at this stage of the season, any win over any opponent by any score is a good win. So the Rangers beat up a feeble opponent while Philly was stealing a point (with help from a late bogus hand-pass call) against the Beast of the East. So the net-net is that the Rangers gained two on Columbus, one on the Flyers and Capitals (who got yet another Bettman Losers’ Point and have 25 actual hockey wins in 75 games), and maintained their lead on Detroit. As we’ve said over and over, it’s crucial to get into that 2-3 first-round slot and avoid the wild card.

4) Cam Talbot. It sure worked out, the decision to give the backup a game here. Alain Vigneault doesn’t fly by the seat of his pants, so I believe he planned for a while to give Talbot this start — keeping it quiet, though, in case he changed his mind. Such a wonderful luxury to have a guy who can play here and there and be of little or no drop-off whatsoever. Three shutouts, 12-6. Can’t get much better than that. And I still believe that, often, when you go to the backup, the team subconsciously or consciously is challenged to play better defensively.New York Rangers v Edmonton Oilers

5) This team needs to defend to succeed. All of its successful streaks this season have come when they’ve defended well, especially around the net. And with its speed, this team often plays its best offensive games when it defends. Just the way it is. The Rangers won’t win when they defend as they did in Calgary.

6) AV also did some interesting line-juggling that worked beyond what could have been expected. Again, maybe that’s because it was Edmonton. But putting Daniel Carcillo on the first line — he’s not a first-liner by any stretch of anybody’s imagination, including his — didn’t hurt Derek Stepan or Rick Nash at all. And reuniting the line that has been the Rangers’ best all season — Benoit Pouliot rejoining Mats Zuccarello and Derick Brassard, the latter two of whom were awful with J.T. Miller Friday — sure paid off.

7) Keeping the fourth line intact also worked well. Those three guys — Brian Boyle, Derek Dorsett and Dominic Moore — have just been dominant on so many shifts in so many games for several months now. Moore, ICYMI, was named the PHWA-NY Chapter’s nominee for the Bill Masterton Trophy for perseverance and dedication. Nobody has persevered more than Moore, and his comeback from personal disaster, and his play after a naturally slow start, make him as good a story as there is in hockey. Good for him.

8) Which brings us to the other line, the one with Brad Richards and Martin St. Louis on it. Richards and Carl Hagelin have been pretty good lately. I didn’t think either was very special in this game. But St. Louis, while he tried hard and does some little things well, and while he sure had some chances, continues to be in a snake-bitten, confidence-lacking funk. Yeah, the team has done well without him scoring in 14 games (9-4-1). But he needs to do a lot more these last six games, and in whatever playoff games the Rangers get. Needs to be a bottom-liner like Rick Nash. While the young, not-vocal former captain thrives in Tampa.New York Rangers v Edmonton Oilers

9) The Daily Nash-O-Meter. Needle’s up because, as I said, he’s a bottom liner and he scored twice. One was a fluke. One was legit. He also had a great breakaway move on the power play robbed by Ben Scrivens. I thought he was more involved in both ends than he had been Friday, when his game dipped. Who knew he’d be better on the penalty kill than he is on the power play? And his center, Stepan (three assists), is really coming on at the right time. He still passes sometimes when he should shoot — he’s a great passer with a very good shot — but his game has come around. (though he was 2-11 on faceoffs and the team was 22-33).

10) The first power play, other than the Nash breakaway, stunk as it has since Yankee Stadium. The second was better, with Nash parked at the net and Stepan in the high slot. But it got better when the real No. 1 unit got out there, and Brassard banked in a PPG off an Oiler with Pouliot setting a screen. Pouliot made the play that put it in motion. Meanwhile, the PK continued to be stellar, with Nash and Zuccarello (who had his first two goals in 18 games) scoring short-handed against the snoozing Edmonton PP.

11) The officiating, again, very interesting. To put it kindly. There will be at least one disaster in the playoffs, and probably one involving video replay. I didn’t mind the no-goal call with Boyle and Moore and Dorsett crashing the net — but I do mind that it’s a call that goes either way on any given night, much like the kicked-in goal reviews and the quick-whistle/slow-whistle goals. New York Rangers v Edmonton Oilers

12) Speaking of Edmonton, did you happen to catch any of the Wayne Gretzky fantasy camp stuff on NHL Network. They had TGO mic’d. So he was talking on the bench about how, in the old days, refs would award the assists, often skating by the bench and asking who had the assists. Gretzky said guys would holler and try to take credit for assists on his goals, and added that he heard that Phil Esposito had 20 assists while sitting on the bench one year. Then one of TGO’s fantasy teammates had a penalty shot. Gretzky told him to shoot, not deke. The player deked and was stopped and when he came back to the bench, the incredulous Gretzky barked at him,  smiling, “I’ve got 1,000 goals.” Hilarious.

13) But what’s happened to that franchise isn’t good at all. All those non-playoffs, all those lottery picks, all the skill collected, and still this. Poor Dallas Eakins, a Roger Neilson disciple who would be better suited to a veteran team with a focus on defensive play, has just the opposite, and so he was probably a poor fit as a rookie coach.

14) Did you happen to see the left-his-feet predatory high hit by Brooks Orpik that injured Jonathan Toews? And did you see the Pitt media leaping to Orpik’s defense? I’m guessing NHL Player Safety won’t do a thing about it.

15) NBC sells all the rough stuff, then misses it. In fact, in the only fight of a Boston-Philly game that was being sold as a blood war, NBC’s camera was elsewhere, missing the entire altercation. Then NBC immediately cut to commercial. It never ends.

16) Please, please, NHL board of governors, give us more of these meaningless, passionless non-conference games. Please.

*************************************New York Rangers v Edmonton Oilers
My Three Rangers Stars:
1. Derek Stepan.
2. Cam Talbot.
3. Rick Nash.
Your poll vote for Three Rangers Stars:
1. Mats Zuccarello.
2. Rick Nash.
3. Derek Stepan.

Photos by Getty Images.

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  1. inthearmsofbrianboyle on

    Good win. March on.

    Maybe CK, sorry Pimp, THE CK, should fly out west and take a seat behind Torts’s bench come tuesday. You know – just because.

    Big hot dog wager:
    Sanlui will score – eventually.

  2. First…Carp i saw that Orpik hit and i thought right away he’d get away scott free with it too

  3. Solid game…although I think Richards should just play the game instead of looking for MSL all night. That paid off….NOT! Calm Talbot quietly nails another two point…Dmen all showed up..well..most of the time. Richards had a great penalty kill one shift…unfortunately thr Rangers were on the PP…..welcome back MZA-Micheletti mentions what we are all thinking..that the hand is still injured…and he nets a deuce…Bravo! Pulliot…seriously….where have you been these past few anf a half years…now that you found your game..dont go to the next highest bidder…stay and just settle in here…we like your game. Of course..the usual kudos to Rick..our #1 star…no, not Nasher..but Carp for starting off each post game morning with the happy recap…or unhappy autopsy…that allows us to see the light so we can get on with our mundane chores for the day..and if necessary, a place to praise, bitch or both!

  4. from Shanahan on Rick Nash hit 3/22/13…..

    “The commentators have too much of a fascination with ‘did you leave his feet?’ We don’t suspend for leaving your feet. We suspend for leaving your feet and hitting a guy in the head violently,” he said.

    Orpik’s skates were on the ice when he made contact………… I predict no suspension.. but what do I know.

  5. Thanks for another great review, Carp. Good analysis. A few of those open netters that ended up behind Talbot’s net could have changed the tenor of the game. Nice line combos under the cirucumstances…and can’t keep a good man down. MSL will come around, perhaps when the playoffs start.

  6. Good game…

    Edmonton isn’t physical…….

    Rangers 5-0 win was a surprise…Talbot had a few tough saves…only a few though. Edmonton missed a few empty nets.

    Nash. I still dont know what to make of him….got a couple of goals.I guess thats “good”.

    I am gonna get a lot of guff if the Rangers lose to Colorado again…….

  7. Couldn’t take the game in with you guys last night. Got stomach virus. Could barely watch but caught up on Dvr this morning.

    Take the 2 pts

  8. Yes in the season where they decide to make division standings count more than they have in 20 years they have teams play less intradivision games. Brilliant”

  9. Sioux-per-man on

    That game was a cake Walk, 2 points in the bank, back in 2nd place. Edmonton has to be the softest team in the NHL. Even Mrs Sioux got board with it.

    We should all put a “hot dog” in a jar and guess the game Marty St Louis is going to score. 0-14.

    Musky’s team won’t be this soft.

  10. I haven’t played hockey since I was a kid, but how hard is it to keep your skates in contact with the ice after a hit? A lot of people think the hit was clean and Toews was in an unfortunate position, but I don’t think it’s clean under the current rules. Also, please keep giving us one game a year in each arena. I like it.

  11. I think he kind of leaves his feet as he hits him – hitting upward instead of shoulder to shoulder. Why? Because he’s targeting the head deliberately and it becomes the primary point of contact. Orpik has all the time in the world to line him up and hit him cleanly but he chooses the dirty hit.

    Orpik deserves to sit for a couple of games wearing google glasses with a repeating video of Sheriff Shanahan explaining what was wrong with it.
    But then again the “Dept of Player Safety” will probably give him a free pass – because he’s a Penguin

  12. Hawks non-response to OrPik? Great team, but I doubt they’re winning a Cup this year.

  13. Carp, thanks as always for the great review and please keep hammering the broadcasters who think the coverage on the ice ends the moment the whistle blows.

    Will Carcillo still be w/ Nash next game? I hope AV doesn’t end that experiment after one game.

    I’d like to see our 4th line get some PP time.

  14. Come on Carp. I hate Orpik as much as anyone, but he didn’t leave his feet. Toews had his head down and it was a clean hit (one of the few thrown clean ones thrown by Orpik). Looks like he hurt his shoulder/arm, not his head.

    What’s more baffling was the lack of response by the Hawks.

  15. And his feet only went in the air after contact. When contact was made they were on the ice.

  16. inthearmsofbrianboyle on


    Sans Lordeur will fly on his skates
    recieve a pass from one of his mates
    Snipe the puck – like a surprise-attack
    behind a helpless Eddie Lack

    It will happen.

  17. Good morning, boneheads!

    Oilers are just awful. I’m a little surprised that Edmonton, such a storied hockey town, has been tolerating this type of hockey. Kevin Lowe has been running the front office for 14 years. Craig MacTavish too, in different capacities. Last year Lowe fired Tambellini and promoted MacTavish to GM. Who replaced MacTavish in his prior position? Scott Howson. Where is the accountability? I wonder if Daryl Katz has his priorities in life similar to James Dolan’s.

  18. Do you think it’s time that we stop asking Duguay for his players to watch? He basically Mark Messier Game 6-ed that MSL would score his 1st goal as a NY Ranger!!! Oh, and shave that soul patch, Doogs!!!

  19. Stranger Nation on

    _Hawks non-response to OrPik? Great team, but I doubt they’re winning a Cup this year_

    I saw Marian Hossa give Orpik a stern talk afterwards.
    If a Ranger D made that hit (and it would NEVER happen with this crew of softies), it would be a solid hit and cheered by many, if not all.
    Rule # 1 – head up
    Rule #2 – if head down, be prepared to get drilled along boards in offensive zone.

    very careless by Towes, solid hit by Orpik

  20. Stranger Nation on

    Love no drama Cam.
    MZA can still shoot
    Diaz is running for the carriage outside as the clock nears midnight
    Step love is funny
    Nash is Mr Softee – embarrassing
    MStL – seems to have grown a gray beard in the last two weeks.

  21. iDoodie Machetto on

    I had it Stepan-Zuccarello-Nash. Honorable mention to McDonagh.

    I actually didn’t think Talbot was particularly good. Struggled mightily with his rebound control. Was very lucky that Eberle missed that open net. Imagine how much different this game could have gone if Eberle hit the net?

    Man, Edmonton is terrible. And it’s a systemic problem. The coach can’t fix it. They need to break up the core and do it over, except this time, don’t let them play all of their kids straight out of the draft so they think it’s ok to lose 50+ games a year. What a disaster.

  22. You guys realize that with Regulation + OT *Wins* the Capitals are ranked second to last with *25* whereas the Islanders, THE ISLANDERS, are the only team worse in the *EAST* with 22

  23. iDoodie Machetto on

    I’d trade Eberle. Yakupov doesn’t get a good return, RNH is the only possible #1 center, and Hall is one of the best natural LWs in the game.

  24. Amazing, despite the Oilers being a God-awful hockey team, they can still fill up that arena more than the Devils can for a Stanley Cup game at the Prudential Center.

  25. iDoodie Machetto on

    I’ll say this though, if someone wanted to give me #1C value for RNH right now, I’d do that deal in a heartbeat. I’d say it’s 50-50 at best he ever becomes one.

    Unrelated, but it looks like he’s got the plague.

  26. In fact, there are only *4* teams in the entire NHL that are worse than the Capitals.

    Islanders (22)
    Sabres (14)
    Oilers (23)
    Panthers (19)

  27. Say what you want about *Torts*, but he was a big part of my favorite Rangers team/season I have been able to watch in my life so far (twas to young to really appreciate 93-94). For that, I’ll be forever grateful.

    He may be a stubborn jackass, but for a while there, he was *our* stubborn jackass.

  28. Doodie Machetto on

    According to Google Translate:

    Article Overview: One ? fans remember a lot of the team’s name; II ? him like a late adolescent youth; ? Yankees and a number of clubs three brands; four ? who accumulated 20 years of professional ?

  29. Doodie Machetto on

    If you put the text into google, it leads you to an article with this title:

    20 years of professional football: fake gambling black significant defects bucked the trend can be expected

  30. Rob in Beantown on

    That comment is about as relevant as most of the gibberish that passes for banter here

  31. Congrats to LW and TF fighting it out for Supremacy in the Boneheads Boning Boneheads Official Fantasy Hockey League.

    Sioux and Gravy battling it out for the Bronze.

  32. Doodie Machetto on

    Judging from the terrible translation of the article, I think it’s about the viability of the Chinese soccer league, twenty years after its inception.

  33. Rob in Beantown on

    BTW, I recall some epic hustling/sandbagging by LW at the draft. In the last round of the draft he said something like “wait, were we supposed to draft defensemen too?” Good job, LW.

  34. Stranger Nation on

    #7 & #8 seeds in final four are somewhat surprising, not with the pedigree of the teams and not Cinderellas either, but still 7 & 8 seeds.

  35. Doodie Machetto on

    I’m not so sure it’s so important to be in the 2-3 spot. I think the 7 spot against the Penguins would be fine, too. It’s just that 8 spot against the Bruins that is a killer.

  36. Doodie

    Disagree the way to beat penguins is to be able to consistently score goals. The isles were able to get enough offense last year. This ranger team still has issues in scoring consistently. U won’t beat pens 2-1 in playoff games.

    0-5 lifetime vs pens in playoffs plus with skid and Malkin we will never get a call

  37. Cam Talbot is the only goalie in the league who will surely be benched after a shutout.

    Put J.T. Miller on the first line with Nash & Stepan, at least he can receive and make a pass.

    Brad Richards needs to get off his knees and stop telegraphing his passes to St. Louis.

    I choose Diaz over Moore. More grit and better shot on PP.

  38. Saw the Orpik hit. Wasn’t dirty imo. His arms were tucked in and came up after the hit. Also he got a bit of air after the hit took place. Toews just looked like he was in a vulnerable position and wasn’t expecting it. This coming from someone who despises the Pens.

  39. Robby Bonfire on

    So MSL has devolved into being a high-priced “decoy,” right? Come home Cally, you can’t score, either, but at least you do not play like you are 105 years old, give or take 10 minutes.

  40. Robby Bonfire on

    Great point, Dreadnaught. Talbot hits the bench, now. Miller can’t play poorly enough to stay in the lineup. What a bunch of screw-ups!

  41. Doodie Machetto on

    Bylsma is not a good coach. He overcoaches his teams to try and do what the other team does, but better. He will over commit to stopping the Rangers’ offense by running his offense, and I like our defense and goaltender to stymie them in a track meet compared to theirs versus ours.

    Not to mention Fleury is a sieve in the playoffs, Malkin might miss some of the first round with his foot injury, Martin is still out (but will probably be back before the playoffs), and Neal is concussed (who knows when he will be back. Not to mention who knows what will happen with Letang. They also have no third or fourth line to speak of. Our fourth line is humming right now, and in the playoffs, a fourth line can win you a series.

    They just aren’t as scary as they normally are.

  42. Doodie Machetto on

    Dreadnaught is the first person who has ever said Diaz has more grit than another defenseman.

    Diaz has looked pretty good so far, but I’d rather Moore over him or Klein. I guess I’d sit Klein instead of Diaz.

  43. Doodie Machetto on

    And one last point, Eric. The Bruins beat the Penguins 3-0, 6-1, 2-1, and 1-0 in the playoffs last year. That’s four games of one goal or less. Granted, we aren’t last year’s Bruins, but the point is you can beat the Penguins without running up the score.

  44. Robby Bonfire on

    Doodie I am going to respectfully disagree with you, re Edmonton’s future. They are young and talented, albeit not nearly deep enough on the blue line. Wouldn’t surprise me if Edmonton joins the Stanley Cup upper echelon contenders, in the next 2-3 years, just as it would surprise me if the Rangers ever get off their “Just make the playoffs, baby,” merry-go-round.

    The Rangers are standing still, the Oilers have the vision of a major upside future and are willing to sacrifice short-term “respectability” to get there. They have guts and their fans have not jumped ship. Patience is more than a virtue, patience, in many cases, is the key to phenomenal success, something we sure as hell are not going to be seeing around here, for another millennium.

  45. Robby Bonfire on

    And who the hell assembles, and then breaks up a young, talented core? You break up an old, over-priced, shopworn core, if you are saddled with one, by INSTALLING a young, talented core! Then you sit back and watch the wheel start to slowly turn in your favor. This is assuming that, at some point in the future, you really do want to win, not just get the eighth seed and go home, early, as per usual.

  46. Rob in Beantown on

    Kentucky and UConn are not Cinderellas, I don’t care what seed they are. Unless you consider that Cinderella was a hot girl all along who nobody realized was hot because she wore rags all the time. In that case, maybe they are Cinderellas.

  47. Doodie Machetto on

    Robby, they are terrible. They have a culture of losing that is not going away. Hall, RNH, Eberle, Gagner, and to a lesser extent Yakupov (who has his own issues) have all come up in a losing culture where there are no repercussions for repeatedly finishing in last place.

    Furthermore, we all know the big name first round guys they have, but after the first round, they have done absolutely nothing in the draft. The only two guys on their team that they drafted in the 2nd round or later that have played more than 10 NHL games are Petry, Marincin, and Lander.

    They’ve drafted two promising young defensemen in Klefblom and Nurse. But how long until those guys actualize as pros? It’s a disaster. They need to move one of those core pieces for a top pairing defenseman. It’s the only way.

  48. Doodie Machetto on

    Correction: I said only two, but listed three. I had added Lander, whom I had never heard of before last night. He seems like a total bust, as well. 80 games played over four seasons, 7 total points.

    Petry is a decent 3rd pairing puck mover. Marincin is young, but I am just not impressed by his game, at all.

  49. Doodie Machetto on

    Sorry, got Lander’s numbers all wrong. 87 games over three seasons, with 8 points.

  50. Doodie Machetto on

    Sam Gagner has played the 2nd most regular season games out of any player in his draft class (2007-Kane has the most). Number of playoff games: 0. He’s damaged goods.

  51. Doodie Machetto on

    Reminds me of a certain Rangers sniper who has yet to show the ability to win the big game like he is supposed to…

  52. Stranger Nation on

    Better put some Onion Jam on the toast tomorrow with the free OJ refills.
    Torts will want revenge on MSG beat down along with the usual physicality of the Nucks.
    Big Boy pants game – which Nash will show up…assuming one does show up…

  53. Well, right now I guess I would play Stralman over Falk since Falk is busy refusing to get in shape and being a father.

    But if we called up McLlrath…

  54. it’ll be a clown show tomorrow night, if anything we should deliberately give them a few power plays – their power play stinks and our PK is scoring!

  55. Guess I’m in the minority..
    I like seeing non conference match ups and talent from the west. Even with center ice package, it’s interesting to see how the Rangers match up against different teams.

  56. Doodie Machetto on

    Johnny, I’m with you. I like seeing the west. But it’s a hard balance between the west teams I want to see us play and the west teams I couldn’t care less about (I’m looking at you, Phoenix). I think one game against every West team a season would suffice, and pump all of those extra games into two extra divisional games.

  57. Doodie Machetto on

    Alternate travel by division. One year we travel to pacific but are home to central. Then switch the next.

  58. Doodie Machetto on

    Alternatively, and if you want things to be more complicated, create four year cycles.

    1) Home and home with central. Split road/home with pacific.
    2) Home and home with pacific. Split road/home with central.
    3) Home and home with central. Opposite split road/home with Pacific.
    4) Home and home with pacific. Opposite split road/home with central.

    Extra one game within the division.

  59. @organistalert The people have spoken, and it’s unanimous. We’ll be incorporating MLB organist news into this feed soon. Thanks for your input, everybody.

  60. Gagner’s lack of play-ff games is not his fault – he’s played on an atrocious team for years. The lack of playoff experience is down to the front office’s poor roster construction.

    Edmonton need to use some of their assets to acquire an experienced goaltender, couple of d-men and some gritter, 2-way forwards.
    I wonder if Dallas Eakins is regretting taking the job now?

  61. Stranger Nation on

    The issue is as much timing. Should get all of the inter-conference games in the first 40 or 50 games so the remaining games have playoff implications and also less travel later in season.

  62. Doodie Machetto on

    The MZA SHG was the clearest evidence of a team that had thrown in the towel that I have ever seen. Just absolutely 0 effort.

    At least Hall hustled and tried to play (poor) defense on the Nash one.

  63. Doodie Machetto on

    Stranger, the timing for the Rangers one is tough because of March Madness. They have to be on the road right now, and they had to be on the road for an extended period to start the season. Add in the Olympic break and unless the Rangers basically started their season with a Western Canada home and home, there really weren’t a lot of good times to place this trip.

  64. Doodie Machetto on

    BTW, since the Olympic break, I think we have more SHG than PPG. Terrible and terrific at the same time.

  65. MSG completely screwed over the Rangers this season. As well as demanding that the Rangers leave in the next 10 years.

  66. Doodie Machetto on

    Just checked quickly. I think it’s 6 each, although one of the PPG was the Stepan empty-netter.

  67. Doodie Machetto on

    Manny, don’t worry. They aren’t going anywhere. It was puffery by a city council woman who was trying to run for mayor. I bet that we will never hear about that again.

  68. Doodie, that Extra Eff-it SHG reminded me of the NYR game in Toronto, which was when I thought the Leaves were in big trouble. The Rangers, IIRC, had been spanked in Pitt the night before and T.O. just handed them a lopsided win. Might have been a turning point for both franchises.

  69. CARP, there is no “turning point” for this franchise until Slats Revere mounts his steed and rides into the sunset.

  70. Gazdic sounds like someone caught in the crotch by a service station explosion.

    Bless you.

  71. Doodie Machetto on

    I just broke that play down to my friend who is a Devils fan and didn’t see it live. Here are the snippets of what I said to him:

    The whole team basically said “[Buff] it, let Scrivens handle this.”


    Look at #23 in that video pirouetting at the circle, doing absolutely nothing. That’s Matt Hendricks.

    1) what the [Buff] is he doing on a PP!?
    2) Isn’t he supposed to be a “heart and soul” effort player?

    Hall goes to the front of the net, but just stands there like a [Byfuglien] statue and doesn’t follow Zuccarello.

    And Gagner takes the absolute worst possible line for supporting the 50/50 puck between Larson and Stepan. He goes to the boards to try and break out, but then Larson loses the battle and there’s nothing but Hall between Stepan and the goal (because Hendricks is pirouetting by the circle).

    The fifth Oiler is totally MIA. I assume he’s at the blue line covering the point, which is fine. There are four guys down low against two Rangers. Surely they shouldn’t end up with a second two on one down low. How do you get two two on ones on the same zone possession while short handed? It’s [Byfuglien] mind blowing!

  72. Doodie Machetto on

    Latona, if he is getting on a horse to ride off, I’d hope it was more like Shane than Paul Revere.

  73. I’m fine playing the west, but in January, not March/April. They should do what they used to do in baseball. First and last month of the season are all in conference games. Imagine if all we played were the Flyers, Debbies, Islanders, Bruins, Caps, et al down the stretch. Would make for a WHOLE lot of onions games for our boys.

  74. Rob in Beantown on

    Original Six division would be neat, but I really dig being in a division with the Islanders, Devils, Flyers, etc. The old Atlantic Division was/is my favorite division in sports.

  75. Doodie Machetto on

    I couldn’t care less about the “original 6.” Frankly, I’m kind of sick of it being shoved down our throat. Honestly, when was the last time Rangers-Detroit or Rangers-Chicago even mattered? Hell, even Rangers-Toronto hasn’t been relevant in 40 years. The last time they met in the playoffs was 1971.

  76. Stranger Nation on

    Doodie – assuming you are meaning Big East tourney closing MSG (Tues – Sun) and Olympics every 4 yrs, they could have Oct- Jan to take care inter-conf/Western swings; 4 months is decent chunk of time for that.

    Use Feb & Mar for intra-Conf or more importantly division. The last 30 games should be against your conference. This still allows teams to visit every stadium/sheet once a season.

  77. Rob in Beantown on

    There should be an Original Six trophy that’s awarded for bragging rights. If it was just awarded based on points we would have won in 2011-2012!

  78. Doodie Machetto on

    I’d take the old Patrick Division as my favorite. So in other words, Atlantic Division plus Capitals.

  79. Stranger Nation on

    Original 6 with bad blood: Bos/Mon, Mon/Tor, Det/Chi

    funny how NYR is not in the convo unless you count the Boston beat downs

  80. Rob in Beantown on

    A more fun way of awarding it would be based on head to head winning percentage. I wonder when we would have won that last.

  81. Doodie Machetto on

    Stranger, we usually follow a similar schedule. In 2011-12, the only games we played against the West after Feb 1 were as follows:

    1) vs Blackhawks (2/16)
    2) vs CBJ (2/19)
    3) @ Blackhawks (3/10)
    4) vs Avalanche (3/17)
    5) vs Red Wings (3/21)
    6) vs. Wild (3/27)

    6 games out of their last 34 against the west, with the furthest west trip being Minnesota.

    This is probably a bit of an extreme example because they played their first 7 games on the road, getting a lot of the West teams out of the way early. But I think generally, the schedule makers try and keep it in the conference most of the last 2.5 months of the season.

  82. Stranger Nation on

    point is they should all be in conference for the last 2 months and in division for the last two weeks for ALL teams concerned

  83. Doodie Machetto on

    BTW, I’m thrilled we aren’t playing the Islanders during this stretch of games. A hated rival with absolutely nothing to play for other than to hurt our playoff chances? No thank you.

  84. Doodie Machetto on

    I like that the jokes are listed. I disagree with some of the ranks, but that’s obviously to be expected with any subjective list. The thing that kills me is that the author cut out like half of each joke, often times the ultimate punch line of the joke.

  85. Yea. Cutting out the jokes is really annoying. Now I have to google each one and find the whole script!

  86. Doodie Machetto on

    237. I got an oscillating fan at my house. The fan goes back and forth… it looks like the fan is saying “No.” So I like to ask it questions that a fan would say “no” to. “Do you keep my hair in place?”

    That’s missing the best half of the joke!

  87. Doodie Machetto on

    “226. I went to a doctor, all he did was suck blood from my neck. Don’t go see doctor Acula.”

    Couldn’t write it as Dr. Acula?

  88. Doodie Machetto on

    When I buy a candy bar from a store, often times I will drop it so it can reach its maximum flavor potential.

  89. Doodie Machetto on

    That flap on the bottom of a vending machine, that’s a good invention. Before that, it was hard times for vending machine owners. “Which thing are you going to get?” “That one, and every one on the bottom row!”

  90. Ducks eat for free at Subway. Had I known that, I would have ordered a much larger sandwich. “Let me have the steak fajita sub. But don’t bother ringing it up, it’s for a duck!”

  91. I rent a lot of cars, cause I go on the road. And when I drive a rental car, I don’t know what’s going on with it, right? So a lot of times I’ll drive for, like, ten miles with the emergency brake on. That doesn’t say a lot for me, but it really doesn’t say a lot for the EMERGENCY BRAKE.

  92. I got a king sized bed. I don’t know any kings, but if one came over, I guess he’d be comfortable. “Oh, you’re a king, you say? Well you won’t believe what I have in store for you! It’s to your exact specifications! I believe I can set up your old lady, too!”

  93. Doodie Machetto on

    Whoops. Carp, you can ignore that last one. Will redo now.

    I’d be a [carcillo-y]auto mechanic. If someone brought their car into me and said, “My car won’t start.” “Well, maybe there’s a killer after you!”

    I don’t know how to fix a car. If the car breaks down, and the gas tank does not say “E”, I’m screwed. But if the gas tank says “E”, I get all cocky – “I’ve got this one, don’t worry.” So I get out the toolbox AKA wallet.

  94. I bought my insurance from a dyslexic duck. He sold me CALFA insurance and they won’t cover a g.d. thing!

  95. Doodie Machetto on

    This one’s for Sioux:

    I’m not addicted to gambling, I’m addicted to sitting in a semi-circle.

  96. @stevezipay Torts on St. Louis’ struggles: “We’ve texted…when it comes down to the real deal, he’s going to be a good player for you guys.”

  97. Rob in Beantown on

    I want to climb a mountain, not so I can get to the top, because I want to hang out at base camp. That seems falkin’ fun as isht. You sleep in a colorful tent, you grow a beard, you drink hot chocolate, you walk around. “Hey, you going to the top?” “Soon.”

  98. “If you’re watching a parade make sure you stand in one spot. Don’t follow it. It never changes. If you don’t like the parade, run in the opposite direction. You will fast forward the parade.”

  99. I’m not really that good at that stuff though. Plenty of people are funnier than me.

  100. Rob in Beantown on

    @BRichards_1991 We never talk anymore.

    @BRichards_1991 :(

  101. @textsfromtorts

    I made it. It was available. Anyone can take it over if they want.

    Follow it.

  102. Franklin Kistner on

    Manny – my Soninlaw wanted my SUV for birthday trip. He loaned me his Porsche and I drove it home (30 miles) across new bay bridge with brake on. I told him it sounded louder than an Isle-Ranger playoff game @ MSG. OOPS!

  103. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    How many seconds into warm ups does tostitos start chirping?

    Think carcillos gloves stay glued on apparently? I do

  104. Rob in Beantown on

    Katie Strang @KatieStrangESPN
    #NYR Rangers agree to terms with another college free agent, University of Vermont forward Chris McCarthy

  105. nah didn’t see “the left-his-feet predatory high hit by Brooks Orpik that injured Jonathan Toews” because it never happened. a player doing what Toews did in that situation deserves to be hit 10/10 times.

  106. Rob in Beantown on

    In terms of salary, is Haggerty making NHL league minimum prorated right now to not play hockey?

  107. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    It’s not that Haggerty isn’t playing, it’s that he doesn’t get to skate in his uniform with the other Rangers on game day…

  108. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    It’s not that Haggerty isn’t playing, it’s that he doesn’t get to skate with his uniform on with the other rangers once the anthems are played :)

  109. Guess C McCarthy solves the problem of a leader that is not vocal in the locker room…?:>D Anyone checked to see if BR has been taking ventriloquist lessons during the optional practices?

  110. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    #Texts from torts – don’t bother knocking when this car seat is rocking

  111. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    #Texts from torts – where is my ******* plane seat? The ******* stewardess won’t ******* let me sit in my ******* car seat when we ******* fly

  112. _I bet everybody is getting ready to dump on Tort all day tomorrow!_

    I bet everybody is getting ready to shower Torts with love all day tomorrow!


  113. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Jägr is an amazing specimen. Incredible athlete. Wish he never left the rangers….

  114. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Cccp – no doubt. Brilliant coach. Lovely human. Treats all players the same. Great motivator. Best offensive mind in the game today. Even tho the Nucks have less than 1% chance of making the playoffs…..it doesn’t mean he’s not a superb coach #lots of excuse. #maybe he sux

  115. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    If Hitchcock, Babcock, or Jerry Sandusky coached the ranger 2011-2012 team, the rangers beat the devils and play for the cup…,Kings still win….but they’d have beat the Devils

  116. I just saw on a teleprompt on TV that the rangers signed a forward from college named Mccarthy. Have no idea who this kid is or anything about him.

  117. I’m pretty happy with the pictures I added to the @textsfromtorts account but I wish I had a better background. Anybody?

  118. Slats develops J. Edgar Hoover Disease and henceforth hires only Irish Catholics. Demands that team wears fedoras and carries heat off-ice.

  119. Torts tweet: NYR should give the kid, #19 a shot to run the team on the ice. Right age, right vocality. Hi, Brad! Reaching out.

  120. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    It wasn’t so much that Catholics despised Protestants, it’s that Catholics were not getting jobs whereas the Protestants were…

  121. Doodie Machetto on

    Oh the Catholics hate the Protestants and the Protestants hate the Catholics. The Hindus hate the Muslims, and everyone hates the Jews.

  122. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    It sure wasn’t religion per se that caused Ireland to fight along religious lines…

  123. Doodie Machetto on

    What was the cause of the Civil War?

    Actually, there were numerous causes. Aside from the obvious schism between the abolitionists and the anti-abolitionists, there were economic factors, both domestic and inter…

    Wait, wait… just say slavery.

    Slavery it is, sir.

  124. Robby Bonfire on


    Getting back to your 11:14 a.m. comment, we are going around in circles, here. I maintain the Oil Boys are on the right track, and ~patience~ is the key, here. Of course all bets are off if the G.M. and the coach get fired and they scrap their own long-term timetable for achieving excellence, in favor of an expedient, short-term timetable focused upon the attainment of mediocrity – sort of like the New York Rangers Lite, you might say.

    Best sports analogy here I can think of is the Braves of the late 80’s, who were “hapless,” in everyone’s eyes, and then BOOM, suddenly it’s 1991 and guess what? It’s Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz and no looking back on hard times, anymore. They “overnight” became the dominant team in the National League for the next 14 years.

    These Oilers, like those Braves, unless they alter course, are on the same track of being willing to go through severe growing pains with a talented young nucleus, while holding fast to the vision of their success that lies just beyond present-time embarrassment.

    I hope they don’t capitulate to outside pressures and change course. I would really like to see how good this team, with added maturity and some key added parts, can become? While I am, and have been a Ranger fan, all my life, the Oilers, much more than current Rangers management, embody the philosophy I wish my own team of choice would adopt.

  125. Doodie Machetto on

    Robby, I direct you to the MZA shorthanded goal. That is not a team with a promising future. That is a team that does not care if it succeeds or fails. That’s a culture problem. They could have all of the young talent in the world, but without any conviction for winning, they are not ever going to succeed.

  126. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Oilers need to stop drafting free wheeling forwards at every chance…too much pond hockey. Much of their team never learned much defensive structure.

  127. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MZA’ s shortie looked like it was the Rangers on the PP. Pathetic effort.

  128. exactly. Which is why a promising Dman like JMoops should nail down his D, then see what he can add to his O, as McD did.

  129. shortie nets shortie, shorthanded. Mannu wants to see him accept Cup so he can see his little hands, lol.

  130. apparently clowe got concussed again in the 2nd period of tonight’s game. I’m really glad the rangers didn’t resign him and you would have to think the rangers knew clowe was damaged goods after receiving his first concussion against the hurricanes. It’s now, I think, 4 concussions for clowe. I don’t think he will finish that contract. it’s looking more and more he will be forced to retire.

  131. orr!!, could be but I don’t remember clowe getting any concussions playing for the sharks but than again because the sharks play in the west it’s hard to follow teams from the west, not much if any at all coverage.

  132. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Clowe had shoulder problems which caused him to miss a bunch of games…don’t think it was ever publicly noted that he’d had been concussed…

  133. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    However, Clowe had some major brawls over the years and it could have been just an accumulation of head trauma…

  134. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    But it didn’t keep him out of the lineup for a significant number of games…it was a “shoulder injury” in the couple of months leading up to the trade that caused him to miss games…

  135. Robby Bonfire on

    “This is a (Canadian) team that doesn’t care if it wins or loses.” Subjective speculation not based upon anything tangible, that I can detect. Would you say the Rangers care if they win or lose? If they do “care” about winning I would say they have a precariously low ceiling for how much winning they care to do. I do know this Rangers organization has a history of employing mercenaries who are 90 per cent about the pay check, and 10 per cent about winning and making the sacrifices it takes to justify that pay check. Drury The Parasite will always be my favorite most-detested example, around here.

    Fact is, we really have no idea what is in other people’s heads and hearts. And what, exactly, is winning? Is making the playoffs “winning?” Or is winning the actual annexing of the Stanley Cup. “Winning” means different things to different people. For me, you win or you finish last. “Consolation” prizes are insulting. I think the Oilers are on to something the Rangers need to find out about.

  136. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Real shame RFK had to go and get assassinated for us….country would have a different tenor to it assuredly…

  137. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    I wonder where Rhode Island Ranger is and what he’s up to…a great mate for sure…

  138. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Woodrow Wilson was good….Teddy Roosevelt was good…..but I’d probably go with FDR – but even he had warts…

  139. Teddy rocks. I think FDR is overrated but still one of the best.. I’ve been doing some more research on Eisenhower.. I think he was a lot better than some give credit for..

  140. Stranger Nation on

    Unsung hero this season must be Cam. Imagine if we had 5 hole Beer-on as Zoolander’s back up?

  141. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    DDE had foresight. The military industrial complex. 1950’s was a tremulous boom period. A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage.

  142. Stranger Nation on

    Teddy’s Progressivism and Conservatism paved the way for the 20th century. Overcame personal hardships by sheer will and tenacity.

  143. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Snation – Tam is the man. Cause he mixes it with love and makes the world go round…

  144. One of the best compliments I ever received was when a former teacher used “Speak softly and carries a big stick” to describe me on a recommendation letter..

    Sure could use some of those guys now, huh? Perhaps even more importantly we could use some Clays and Websters in Congress..


  145. Rangers West on

    Roosevelt=Conservatism? Government regulation=Conservatism? Interesting. No politics.

    Vote: Matts “I am the law!” Zuccarello

  146. Rangers West on

    I was going to say I am glad there are no more slave owners running the country…then I realized, some things never change.

  147. Rangers West on

    Sorry for the snarky comments. I hate politicians and talking politics. My bad. Only hockey from here on out from me.

  148. Teddy Roosevelt is one of the finest and talented gentleman to ever serve in the White House.

    Imagine…Born in NYC but he was a cowboy. Campaigned with McKinley for Pres and ran on U.S. imperialism, high tariffs, and the gold standard.

    Can you imagine a party running on that platform today?

  149. ThisYearsModel on

    Fatso got pulled to boos tonight in NJ. Clowe has another likely concussion. No matter, they won’t be playing past the regular season.

  150. ZzZz NYR ZzZz©" Don't Stepan the logo!!!"...says Greg L. on

    Rick Nash , He could of had 4 goals last game…

    Yeah the guy morons on here are giving alotta slack for not back checking..bla bla oh he doesn’t care…The guy score freakin short handed and hes gonna score more. Be a Nash hater but in my Ranger books ..GROW UP!

  151. ZzZz NYR ZzZz©" Don't Stepan the logo!!!"...says Greg L. on

    When the Rangers lose we actually see the real fans . The ones whom pay cash are intitled to say what ever they want ….but when ya spout trash twards our winning team , to me …you are a big baby and we don’t need your cash or tickets cuz me and my bud Dolan gets sold out every night. Fans world wide care so If homies who are whinnies are gonna get called out . Im calling you out …Baby squad!!

    Are YOU on the baby squad?

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