Rangers-Blue Jackets in review … Live Chat Wednesday at noon

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First, wanted to pass along that we will do a Live Chat Wednesday at noon. Be there.

Thoughts:

1) So ya boys are still a game over NHL-.500, which is in actuality, in this case, two games under .500. Whatever. They have gone a game over eight times now, and lost the next game all eight. In one other case, the loss was one of those non-losses, but in that case they then followed the non-loss with a real loss to drop back to .500. So, against the defending Stanley Cup champs coming up next, the Rangers have another shot — which will actually be their 10th shot — to go two over NHL-.500 for the first time this season. Got that?Columbus Blue Jackets v New York Rangers

2) I didn’t think the loss to Columbus was anywhere near one of the Rangers’ worst games of the season, not by a longshot. Not even a bad game, really. In fact, if they’d won the stupid dice-roll at the end it would have been a pretty good win, coming back from 3-1 in the third period and all, killing the penalty in OT. I never felt they were being outplayed for any stretch of the game, even at 1-0 and 3-1. Never felt they couldn’t come back.

3) And again, it’s pretty tough to pin odd-man rush goals on the goalkeeper, but, yeah, it’s getting to the point … Even Henrik Lundqvist pretty much said so post-game. This was another game where the goals were good ones, but you expect a world-class goalie to stop one or two of them, especially the breakaway — his specialty, or one or both of the shootout goals, his other specialty. Lundqvist was pretty good in the third and very good in OT. Sergei Bobrovsky won the battle of the last two Vezina winners by stopping a breakaway and two pretty good glove saves in the skills competition. And I didn’t think Bob could be blamed for any of the three he let in during the first 60.

4) So now you have to wonder at what point Cam Talbot takes over the bulk of the games, or at least a split … or at the very least a larger load than he’s gotten. That moment probably would have arrived sooner if the record hadn’t been around .500, and if there isn’t much chance of the Lesstropolitan teams getting away from them. And there isn’t.Columbus Blue Jackets v New York Rangers

5) The Daily Nash-O-Meter. After that dreadful non-performance in Pittsburgh, I thought Rick Nash has now played two good ones in a row, two where he’s gotten himself into position to score, two where he’s skated hard, where he hasn’t looked to avoid contact. The two goals, meh. I mean, they were very good shots — one top corner through Chris Kreider’s screen, one a wrister from 55 feet out through Ryan Callahan’s screen. So, yeah, he got two. I’m not looking at that as an indication of a turnaround. I’m looking more at what he’s doing to get his shots. I think he’s done more lately … and prior to Pittsburgh, I thought he was getting closer, too.

6) The question is, does he make the Canadian Olympic team, and if so, does that boost his confidence a little bit? Does it get him cranked up to prove he not only belongs on the team, but in the top four RWs so that he’ll be in the lineup in Sochi? Or, if he doesn’t make it, does he pout, or lose confidence, or does he use it as motivation, as Bobby Ryan and Kyle Okposo vowed to do? That selection is at noon today. I don’t think this should be trivialized in terms of what it means to Nash as a Ranger this season.

7) Chris Kreider (does he soon get his own daily meter, too?). The kid was amazing in the first 20 minutes and several seconds. Even the penalty itself was pretty impressive, the way he overpowered Fedor Tyutin and sent him flying. I do think Kreider pulled up, threw a little snow. He also followed through and with Tyutin in that dangerous spot a few feet from the boards, it was a textbook boarding penalty. Guessing the refs thought Tyutin might be hurt, and so the major and game misconduct. I don’t have a big problem with that, based on what is called in today’s Pansified NHL. The noise late last night was that there would be no suspension. I think that’s a good call, but I never know what the NHL is thinking on these things anymore.Columbus Blue Jackets v New York Rangers

8) I’ve said it before and will say it again. In the old days, when that boarding call was rarely made, there were fewer incidents because guys didn’t put themselves in that position. They knew they would get drilled, so they avoided getting drilled. Today they almost invite the drilling, hoping to get the call. And the league obliges, and encourages them to put themselves in harm’s way. Vicious cycle (downward, IMO).

9) I would have loved to have seen Kreider play in the 1980s or early ’90s when guys like Mike Bossy, Guy Lafleur and Mike Gartner flew down the wing and ripped it the way he does.

10) I wonder if J.T. Miller gets prucha’d now so that newcomer Daniel Carcillo can play against his former team in Chicago.

11) Anton Stralman, on that 2-1 goal — caused by the Kreider hit and the Brandon Dubinsky retaliation — I thought was awful on both ends. He coughed it up forcing a pass inside the blue line, and I thought he did a good job to get back against Cam Atkinson, before failing to prevent him from deking on Lundqvist. That goal should not have happened … all the way around.Columbus Blue Jackets v New York Rangers

12) We had a lot of discussion about Dubinsky during the game last night, and deservedly so. We saw pretty much all the positives, all you could want, out of Dubinsky, and none of the negative. He threw a big hit on Dan Girardi to start the first goal, which he finished with a deflection. He made a great pass to James Wisniewski on the 3-1 goal (bad job on the backcheck by Derick Brassard, on a simple 3-on-3 break). He squashed his old linemate Ryan Callahan. He stuck up for Tyutin when he got racked up by Kreider. If only he had scored a few more goals after he signed that last contract, he might have been an untouchable. But he is exactly what the Rangers lack up front. Even in the year when he couldn’t score and couldn’t stay healthy, and when he got tossed to the third line, he was a very important piece. And the Rangers have missed that piece.

13) The penalty on Derek Stepan = pansification. C’mon. That’s not a penalty. And it’s not the first time we’ve seen it called.

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My Three Rangers Stars:Columbus Blue Jackets v New York Rangers
1. Rick Nash.
2. Ryan McDonagh.
3. Marc Staal.
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Kenny Albert’s Three Rangers Stars:
1. Rick Nash.
2. Dan Girardi.
3. Henrik Lundqvist.
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Your poll vote for Three Rangers Stars:
1. Rick Nash.
2. Chris Kreider.
3. Ryan McDonagh.
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  1. Start Talbot against the Hawks. He wins? Start him again. He wins again? Then start him again, and keep starting him until he has a bad game.

    If Hank doesn’t like it, tough! How long is it going to take to get his game together? Veen-Yo tried playing him through it, but it’s not working, and it’s costing the team points.

    Maybe the guy’s too focused on the Olympics.

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  3. I’m betting we see a lot better Hank after the Olympics, until then split duties with Talbot.

    I still think this game could have been 4-3 or 5-3 to the Rangers, was it not for that blown call. Given how Kreider was dominating again, seriously can anyone handle this kid when on his game, time and again he blows past defenders or pushes them deep opening shooting lanes for others and his work in front of the goalie on the PP is excellent, with his strong legs he is immovable, case in point – how he dumped Phaneuf on his back against the Leaves.

  4. I’m betting we see a lot better Hank after the Olympics, until then split duties with Talbot.

    I still think this game could have been 4-3 or 5-3 to the Rangers, was it not for that blown call. Given how The Kreider was dominating again, seriously can anyone handle this kid when on his game, time and again he blows past defenders or pushes them deep opening shooting lanes for others and his work in front of the goalie on the PP is excellent, with his strong legs he is immovable, case in point – how he dumped Phaneuf on his back against the Leaves.

  5. Those shots off Hank’s glove….mean he is getting closer to catching the puck….or a further indication ot is his soft spot? The first shootout goal didn’t add to my confidence. MZA we needed that first one last night…and what is with Nash in the two hole? There is no screen on a breakaway..reducing the liklihood of scoring against Bob by 75%!

  6. Nice writeup, Carp….I turned off the game after I finished dinner. To me, looked like the same old team after a win. Good day to hibernate in the cave…I only celebrate after wins, even during an artcic vortex.

  7. Olga v Greg, lol.

    Torn as to who I want to start tomorrow. If we are hoping Hank can play his way back into a groove than I think the hawks are a good team to do it against. I think we could shove both Hank and cam in the crease at the same time and still not come out on top of this one.

  8. I turned off after the 2nd period – at 3-1 down with Kreider out and my eyes tired (it was 1:40am here!), I couldn’t stick it out any longer.
    Good to wake up and see the comeback though.

  9. iDoodie Machetto on

    I’m not going to let the skills competition determine how I feel about this game. They came from 2 goals down in the third to tie. That’s a positive. Sure, you don’t like to be 2 down to Columbus in the third, but the team showed good character in coming back. The only stretch I thought that they got outplayed in was the first few minutes of the third, culminating in the almost goal by johansen (I think) but then the Rangers scored immediately afterwards and were in complete control from there on out (until OT).

  10. iDoodie Machetto on

    The rule is that you don’t blame the goaltender for breakaways, deflections, and odd-man rushes, but I think there is a corollary to that rule: he has to stop some of them anyway for the rule to apply.

    At some point soon, there needs to be a real discussion about a platoon with Calmbot. Jose Lundqvist/Henrik Theodore is not cutting it.

  11. iDoodie Machetto on

    From bob Mackenzie:

    Critical ? on D: is Team CAN married to 4L and 4R. If so, we think Hamhuis gets in. If not, 7 and 8 go to two of Subban, Seabrook, Boyle.

    If Staal had been even half decent this year, he would have locked up that fourth spot. They wanted him on the team and he was just terrible.

    On a side note, he thinks Nash makes the team. It would be purely a reputation call.

  12. wow!! I can’t believe people on here are happy the rangers came back and got a point. This was Columbus, never should have lost period. No wonder Dolan is laughing all the way to the bank. This team stinks. Stop buying merchandise and spending tickets to the games and than maybe Dolan will wake up and fire Sather. Keep spending money on this poorly run franchise and nothing will change.

  13. team with better goalie got the extra point..case closed. though Lundqvist was fighting the puck all night and has to stop that third goal..goes down way to soon and the league is abusing him upstairs. Play Talbot through Olympic break. Rangers are a better team with him in net right now.

  14. Sather Must Go! on

    Rangers played pretty well last nite, but still needed regulation win over a div opponent at home…

    M what i read Dubs was never seriously considered for Team USA (looked at but not a serious player) – watching him play last nite and watching Stepan have an awful first half – I really would have pref Dub, esp in game against canada and some of the other squads that play are a touch morevphysical in recent years, since nhl players were allowed.

  15. iDoodie Machetto on

    Was pouliot dressed last night?

    Carp, you gave Staal your third star but then nothing on him in the write up. Just wondering the reasoning behind it.

  16. Stranger Nation on

    Thought Staal played well, particularly during the first period. Definitely needed given his partner’s adysmal performance

  17. I thought Staal looked pretty good last night. There were one or two times when I thought his player had got away from him and he used his reach to poke the puck away. Probably merited a mention for being paired up with Stralman most of the night, who was awful.

  18. Stranger Nation on

    It seems that the Olympic team made their selections during the summer which helped Step (and Nash) and may have hurt Dubi.
    Would have loved to see Kreider throw Dubi to the ice.
    did Artie play last night?

  19. QUESTION!

    Why do people use MZA to talk about Zucc?????? It makes no sense to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. Stranger Nation on

    They could have won that game 5-3 if they could shoot; Brass, richards, MZA, Pullout all had multiple chances in close. Kreider his the post in the first.

    BTW – that first Nash goal was a goal scorers goal – top corner wristed in. Need to show props to the guy when he rips it.

  21. Carp, I don’t agree with you on the penalty on Krieder. The replay at home looked more like shoulder on shoulder and Tyutin fell face first awkwardly. The refs did not have their arms up until Dubi attacked Kreider and Tyutin stayed down.

    I feel with two refs they should not get major penalties or penalty shots wrong.

    I don’t think the game hinged on that penalty but Kreider was flying in the first period and could have been a difference maker.

  22. Good morning, boneheads!

    Good review, Carp. And I agree on Nash. It’s not his goals, it’s the way he’s been competing lately, and the way he is starting to get into more physical areas, not avoiding contact as much. Could be good news.

    I liked the game last night. It was one of those typical let down games, after long road trip and after 7-1 win. They came back. The most positive part of their game is how they are passing and moving through the neutral zone.

    We expect Hank to stop breakaways and penalty shots. That is what we are used to. He is better, but not even close to his top form. I think AV may have to start thinking about starting Talbot more often and get as many points as they can and worry about getting Hank back to his game later.

    I thought it was the right call. Boarding with 5 min major and a game. He slowed down, yes, but that follow through did him in. Don’t think it will be a suspension. At least I hope not. I also hope it doesn’t slow him down. When he is physical like that, he is at his best. And he’s been their best forward by a mile. On Nash’s first goal, before he screened the goalie, he actually retrieved the puck behind the net (again). They need him in the lineup.

  23. calhob – his full name is Mats Zuccarello-Aasen

    he dropped the aasen upon his arrival in the NHL

  24. Advanced stats weren’t as skewed in our direction as I expected them to be …

    Shots: +4
    Fenwick: +8
    Corsi: +2

  25. Not one word about Boyle- who had a terrific game- including a goal, a key face-off win late in the game and an unbelievable job on the last penalty kill. I thought Boyle deserved one of the stars last night.

  26. Doodie Machetto on

    Manny, I was trying to decide between Snow Angelrardi and Snow Angirardi. Please issue a decision.

  27. Great all around game. I can almost see a rivalry budding. Who knew that the loudest game at the Garden thus far (at least as heard on television) would be against the Blue Jackets?

    Highly disagree with that Kreider call. Yeah, he followed through with the hit in the end, but he stopped short and not for nothing, but Rootin’ Tyutin got thrown like a rag doll by a stiff-arm. That changed the whole game. THE KREIDER was flying! I just hope he doesn’t start to play timid again, afraid of a suspension.

  28. Rob in Beantown on

    New York Rangers @NYRangers
    #NYR Olympic Update: Sweden has named @HLundqvist30 and @CarlHagelin to its 2014 Men’s Olympic Hockey team

  29. It’s brutally cold outside, ‘heads. Stay warm. If you have elderly parents, like I do, make sure they stay inside today. Also, get a flu vaccine. Especially if you haven’t been vaccinated since 2010. It’s not too late.

  30. Doodie Machetto on

    ilb, any issues with this year’s vaccine? I’ve heard from Mrs. Machetto that a lot of people have had reactions (Mrs. Machetto included).

  31. I disagree with the Kreider call, but the way the rule book reads, it’s completely subjective. It’s up to the ref to determine the severity and violence of the hit.

    To me, it wasn’t a violent hit, it wasn’t from behind, and the puck was still there, IIRC. But, it’s the refs discretion, so that’s that. As long as there’s no suspension, it is what it is.

  32. Doodie Machetto on

    Looked over the roster. Kind of surprised at Jimmie Ericcson’s inclusion. I figured if they were going to bring a domestic guy it would be Joakim Lindstrom.

  33. Yeah, perhaps it was a 2 minute penalty. I just worry about where the Shanahammer’s darts will land on the suspension board. Gave me flashbacks to Round 1, Game 2 in 2012 against the Sens.

  34. Doodie Machetto on

    For one game, I like Sweden’s team a lot. For 7 games in 12 days, they’re a very, very old team.

  35. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Tam needs to play until he has 2 bad games in a row. Of course, this could mean Hank doesn’t play until next December. So, sather should put out feelers and see if he can fetch a King’s ransom.

  36. They do have three struggling goalies. Enroth has the best numbers, though in fewer games than the other two.

  37. Nothing more than usual, Doodie. A little more from live vaccine, a nasal spray. But nothing serious. It appears though that H1N1 maybe coming back in some states. Could reach NY at some point.

  38. Doodie Machetto on

    Gustavsson had a really good stretch with the Wings earlier this year.

    But Lundqvist is the unquestioned starter.

  39. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Doodie – are you talking flu shot? I was sick that night and the next day and my arm hurt like a mutha for 2 days….

  40. Rob in Beantown on

    Craig Custance @CraigCustance
    That’s my gold medal pick, by the way. I love everything about Team Sweden.

    Dale McCarthy @CanadianGothic
    @CraigCustance Is Cam Talbot their goalie?

  41. The flu shot isn’t so bad. Everybody has different reactions to it, but IMO I’d rather have a sore arm for two days than a barely functioning body for two weeks!

  42. Gravy I thought the hit was more from the side, and he was putting on the breaks.

    Tyutin was he turning that way, or was it really a face plant on his part. Not sure if he was trying to sell something there.

  43. If THE can figure out a way to play the way he has in the last few consistently, we may have that first line 30-35 goal scorer. And as much as Nash is a WB, he still has that pedigree too.

  44. Doodie Machetto on

    Looked like it should’ve been 2 mins to me, but I’ve got The Kreider colored glasses.

    But under no circumstances should it get supplemental discipline.

  45. Stranger Nation on

    _Today they almost invite the drilling, hoping to get the call. And the league obliges, and encourages them to put themselves in harm’s way_

    IMHO – Darn Tootin put himself in harms way by positioning himself against boards, but his back was to the blue line and Kreider came from the side, so ya never know.

    Just proves what a strong puppy this kid is. Merely gave a 220b payer the flipper and the guy goes flying into the boards like he had been hit by a train.

  46. SPM, I’ll give Tyutin the benefit of the doubt, either shock or really injured, but THE really slowed up before the hit, and it seemed more shoulder-to-shoulder to me. I was just surprised that he was able to send a strong D-man flying like that.

  47. Stranger Nation on

    Do not underestimate THE power of THE. Many have made similar mistakes, but THE is a powerful and frequently used article in our lexicon.

  48. Any team that can leave Stralman off their team must be good enough to win gold.

    USA will lose by 1 goal. (The Ryan Factor)

  49. I still think Tyutin had his back to the blue line, and it was shoulder to shoulder.

    I don’t think it was a penalty.

    High marks for THE KReider, for toying with Tyutin.

  50. Morning all,

    I continue to be stunned and amazed by all the carcillo that’s been going on around here regarding #30.

    This is the guy that kept this franchise from remaining in the dark ages that led up to the 2004 lockout. Eight straight years of world-class work between the pipes. Vezina winner and finalist multiple times. The stats speak for themselves. The undisputed face of the franchise. So he has a first half of the season that’s not up to his – or your standards, and you’re ready to bail on him?

    And for those of you who want the cigar chomper to peddle him away, get this. The Rangers would never get equal value for him in ANY trade.

  51. Doodie Machetto on

    It looked like shoulder to numbers to me, but it wasn’t like a perfect perpendicular angle.

  52. Sather Must Go! on

    Prob not, but I wondered, given how the calls went down at the time, if Krider had dropped the gloves, and took a few quick shots from Dubi – if he would have gotten 2 and 5 instead of the game misconduct (ie. “on ice justice served”)

    Yes, I realize the hit is the hit and has to be judged on its own merit, but refs prob don’t like throwing skilled players out of the game.

    Either way, If Krider is gonna continue to hit (I hope he does) – either he need to stand up for himself or get a linemate that will do so..

  53. AuthorBen: I don’t really disagree with you in terms of the “blame Hank ahhh!!!” mentality here, but you do have to disconnect his past from his projected future a bit, no? He’s not going to be great forever and paying now for past greatness is a super way to go back to the prior era.

  54. Doodie Machetto on

    Interesting theory on the on ice justice, but I think Kreider doesn’t want to fight in consecutive games.

  55. MacKenzie thinks “the best player in the world” is going to get passed over by Canada. That would be pretty hilarious.

  56. Retire Brad Park's #2 on

    The three best words that best describe you are as follows, and I quote”

    Stink!
    Stank!
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  57. Stranger Nation on

    THE would have torn Dubi’s arms from their sockets and rendered him helpless like THE Black Knight in Monte Python’s Holy Grail

    _Stop it you stupid bastard you have no arms left!_

  58. although a shootout is not an ideal way to end a game, I don’t view it as the non-Hockey portion of the game (as Carp does). Individual efforts that impact games happen all of the time during the three periods. Columbus’ players simply outplayed the Rangers’ players in the shootout. Whether it’s one v. one, or five v. five, the best effort wins.

  59. Please no Nash on the team unless we get salary relief from Team Canada if he’s injured again.

  60. Mr. D,

    The King just didn’t lose it in half a season. Not this type of athlete and not this type of competitor.

    People go into slumps at work. Cooke happens.

  61. Doodie Machetto on

    I’m trying to decide whether Nash missing the team would motivate him or just make him sulk and be worse.

  62. _The King just didn’t lose it in half a season. Not this type of athlete and not this type of competitor._

    Everyone loses it at some point and not everyone follows a nice straight-line coast downwards. I’m not saying he has or hasn’t or that he can’t recover to previous levels. And I’m not suggesting I think the new pads have tangibly changed either his style, his mindset or both. But a guy going from elite to good in his early 30s is hardly unprecedented, especially considering the real outlier has been how incredible he’s been for almost a decade. To expect another super elite 8 years because he had 8 prior is unrealistic to me.

  63. Yeah Mister D I was hoping for the same thing. Like Canada exploding or something when he didn’t make it.

  64. Benn, Bergeron, Carter, Crosby, Duchene, Getzlaf, Kunitz, Marleau, Nash, Perry, Sharp, Stamkos, Tavares, Toews.

  65. Doodie Machetto on

    Can’t believe Marleau the only sharks forward on Canada. Would have picked both Couture and Thornton over him.

    Canada has really, REALLY over thought this one.

  66. Doodie Machetto on

    Suddenly, I’m not as worried about this team. They left St. Louis, Giroux, Couture, and Thornton home in favor of Carter, Kunitz, Marleau, and Nash.

  67. Everyone loses it at some point and not everyone follows a nice straight-line downwards. I’m not saying he has or hasn’t or that he can’t recover to previous levels. And I’m not suggesting I think the new pads have tangibly changed either his style, his mindset or both. But a guy going from elite to good in his early 30s is hardly unprecedented, especially considering the real outlier has been how incredible he’s been for almost a decade. To expect another super elite 8 years because he had 8 prior is unrealistic to me.

    Sorry Mister, this explanation is unrealistic to me.

  68. I can’t wait for the Olympics. The Rangers really need a nice long break. And hopefully our guys get their heads out of their butts during the tournament

  69. Kunitz is there virtue of Crybaby – no surprise.

    Marleau and Carter over Giroux and St. Louis

  70. Jeff Carter should have been their Bobby Ryan. He doesn’t do enough to warrant the spot, imo.

  71. Doodie Machetto on

    Rangers have to be top 3 in terms of number of Olympians. We’ve got seven by my count. I would guess St. Louis has by far the most. They’ve gotta be in double digits.

  72. Regarding Nash:

    A surprise selection, even though he’s previously fared well in international competition, including the 2010 Olympics. Hopefully, this will give him the boost of confidence he needs to help turn his season around.

    Regarding Giroux:

    I hate the Orange Crud just as much as the next guy, but he is one of the top players in the world by a mile and was unjustly snubbed.

    Regarding St. Louis:

    Absolute joke that he wasn’t selected.

  73. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Author Ben – Babe Ruth hit 60 HRs in 1927. Last year not as many. David Duval # 1 golfer in the world one year, the next out of the top 100. Andre Agassi, one year top 5 in the world, the next out of the top 150 playing in minor league satellite tour events…..not saying Hank is done completely, but to argue he deserves to play over Tam based in results is foolish at best….

  74. Rob in Beantown on

    What time are the games going to be on during the Olympics? And is NBC going to black them out? I’m really looking forward to it too but I’m afraid its going to be ruined by television and time zone differences.

  75. Good morning, Hambone!

    Doodie, I just thought Staal was really good in this game, both ends. And I actually think, since he returned from the concussion, he’s been much better than he had been in the weeks leading up to the concussion. Which makes me wonder …

  76. I though I heard that the games were going to be played around 11am our time. Not sure how accurate that is though.

  77. Giroux is a really great passer who for some reason gets mentioned among the top 10 forwards in the game. I don’t see it.

  78. Wait, so Rick “Soft as a baby’s bottom” Nash makes Team Canada, but Milan “Man-Bear-Pig” Lucic does not?

    Thank you so much Team Canada!

    signed,

    Team USA Players, Coaches and Fans

  79. Nash’s previous Olympic performance has helped him – proved he can perform on the bigger ice surface

  80. Doodie Machetto on

    St. Louis is my biggest surprise. Especially since Yzerman is the GM. Nobody would know better than him how much harder than everyone St. Louis works and how few players can make their linemates better then St. Louis can.

    He’s the reigning scoring champion!

  81. Rob in Beantown on

    _Wait, so Rick “Soft as a baby’s bottom” Nash makes Team Canada, but Milan “Man-Bear-Pig” Lucic does not?_

    Big ice and Europansy rules

  82. I just threw on TSN Montreal and the callers are livid about Nash. They want James Neal instead.

  83. Canadians think that they have more talent than anyone on the planet at every single position. Sure…….

  84. Carp
    Love the points on Dubi…man I wish he wore an “A” as a Ranger. Never wanted him to leave…I’d rather see gritty Dubi over the rarely flashy Nashy.
    So as expected…Dubinsky=ranger killer

  85. As Ranger fans, maybe this will help Nash! Get out of his funk, and start to play more like last night. Start scoring some Power Play Goals.

    I haven’t seen him use his size at all this year. So how that would factor over St Louis is comical.

    Nash 9-9 -2
    St. Louis 17-21 +12 Point leader for Tampa Bay. and doesn’t make the team.

    Stamkos is great, but with a broken leg, wouldn’t Tampa want him to heal more and get the leg stronger.

  86. Rob in Beantown on

    Russian team is out:

    GOALTENDERS
    Sergei Bobrovsky, Columbus Blue Jackets
    Semyon Varlamov, Colorado Avalanche
    Alexander Eremenko, Dynamo Moscow

    DEFENSE
    Anton Belov, Edmonton Oilers
    Slava Voynov, Los Angeles Kings
    Alexei Emelin, Montreal Canadiens
    Andrey Markov, Montreal Canadiens
    Evgeny Medvedev, AK Bars Kazan
    Nikita Nikitin, Columbus Blue Jackets
    Ilya Nikulin, AK Bars Kazan
    Fedor Tyutin, Columbus Blue Jackets

    FORWARDS
    Artem Anisimov, Columbus Blue Jackets
    Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red Wings
    Ilya Kovalchuk, SKA St. Petersburg
    Denis Kokarev, Dynamo Moscow
    Nikolai Kulemin, Toronto Maple Leafs
    Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh Penguins
    Valeri Nichushkin, Dallas Stars
    Alexander Ovechkin, Washington Capitals
    Alexander Popov, Avangard Omsk
    Alexander Radulov, CSKA Moscow
    Sergei Soin, Dynamo Moscow
    Vladimir Tarasenko, Saint Louis Blues
    Alexey Tereshchenko, AK Bars Kazan
    Viktor Tikhonov, SKA St. Petersburg

  87. So being a Point Leader for you NHL team means *NOTHING*.

    St. Louis – snubbed 17 Goals – 38 Points
    Jiri Hudler – snubbed 35 points
    Bobby Ryan – snubbed 18 goals 36 points

    Now my question, which one is the biggest snub?

    Has to be Hudler right? (42 old Nedved over point leader for Flames).

  88. Meh on “least deserving”. Kunitz is there for no other reason than the good fortune of playing along side Sidney Crosby.

  89. Doodie Machetto on

    Russia’s team looks about what I would expect. I’m actually surprised they included Kulemin over another KHL player. Likewise for Belov.

  90. Doodie Machetto on

    Step is only there because he plays in the middle and the US is pathetically thin at center. If he were a winger, he wouldn’t have made the team.

  91. Doodie Machetto on

    Carp, interesting note about the Rangers. They are probably the only team who sent an Olympian for every country that they have on their roster.

  92. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Author Ben – duly noted. But dont you think Tam has been better, by leaps and bounds, this year? Shouldn’t you play the hot hand? Doesn’t the team play better? Their record certainly indicates that! Tam’s save percentage in #1 in the league. The team in front of the net minder and its fans deserve to see the better goalie playing more often. The aim shouldn’t be about mollifying hank’s ego, it should be who can get the rangers 2 points.

  93. Last night I felt sorry for Dubi and Johnson as in game MSG made a big deal of announcing Ranger US team members. These 2 Blue Jackets happened to be on ice then.

    There was actually some noise in the building in the 3rd period.

  94. Doodie Machetto on

    Gravy, from what I have been reading, the last minute swaps were Carter and Kunitz over Couture and Giroux.

  95. You would hope that an Olympic braintrust sees more than “goals” like most of us do. I mean, Boyle’s got goals in two straight!

  96. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _NYR have the least deserving player (based on this season) on how many Olympic teams?_

    Hanka Hanka

  97. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Let’s hope Gnash doesn’t disappear for the next 5 weeks given he’s made the team canada.

  98. Interesting, DM, since those are two of the more controversial picks.

    Seems that they like Nash on the open ice surface, which is something to consider, especially to those who think he is soft.

  99. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Brassard has 9 points over the last 10 games._

    Book his spot in the Hall of Fame.

  100. Doodie Machetto on

    Canada, Russia, Sweden, US, Slovakia, Finland, Swiss, Czech, Norway, Latvia in that order is how I’d rank them.

    Switzerland is my dark horse pick. Last go round it was Slovakia and they finished fourth.

  101. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Points are points, goals are goals, assists are assists. Maloney, on the radio, has been praising Brassard’s play – and not just on the PP.

  102. Doodie the Sioux have 9 Sochi reps: JLamoureux, MLamoureux, Oshie, Parise (USA), Toews (CAN), Karvinen, Tapani (FIN), Eisenschmid, Fellner (GER)

    I’m thinking we will have more medals on display this year at the Ralph :)

  103. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Doodie – I’ll give you props though, you were correct on the gabby trade….he’ll easily get his 40 this year….

  104. Doodie Machetto on

    Yes Eddie, only yours and Dave Maloney’s player evaluations have any merit. Certainly nobody can ever disagree with you two unless they have been in the NHL.

  105. doesn’t matter who plays tomorrow – Talbot or Lundqvist. Chicago will score a minimum of 5 goals. A NYR victory would be a true miracle. Forget US-Soviet Union 1980

  106. Doodie Machetto on

    Than 3 men? That’s a good question. But I’m sure there are Canadian Junior teams with more.

  107. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Dorsett, even with all his injuries, will out score Gabby this year….in hindsight

  108. Anyone remember that NYR-CHI game a couple years back where NYR were called for like 10 penalties and still managed to win?

  109. Doodie Machetto on

    Yes, I’m the only person who thought the Gaborik trade was a bad trade. And I definitely saw Gaborik breaking his collarbone.

    I won’t pretend he was lighting it up before he got hurt. Five goals in 18 games sucks. But his three replacements still have only tallied 11 in 122.

  110. Doodie Machetto on

    Latona, I’m having a hard time remembering that one. The only recent Chicago game I’m remembering is the one where they exposed Biron’s five hole and were up 3-0 like 10 minutes into the game.

  111. Or, if you back out the defenseman and the 4th line scrapper so as to not just elevate the games played … the “other” offensive forward in the deal is outscoring him.

  112. _Points are points, goals are goals, assists are assists._

    A horse is a horse, of course, of course. Can I get a neeeeeigh, men?!

  113. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Whatever. Gabby has shown to be fragile. He gets hurt a lot. Back luck or not, it factors into the equation. Maybe he has genetically weak shoulders and collarbones. Bottom line, it was a great trade whether you admit it or not. In 14, after this year, seasons, the 40 goal scorer named Gabby will have score 40 three times.

  114. Doodie Machetto on

    6 goals and 17 assists in 43 games vs 5 goals and 7 assists in 18 games? Gaborik is still ahead in goals and points per game.

  115. Doodie Machetto on

    Broken bones are different than soft tissue injuries. If he had pulled his groin, or separated his shoulder, or his knee injury from earlier this year- yes, that you could all say happens. A bone break is completely unpredictable. Just ask Stamkos or Dorsett.

  116. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Brassard has a history of collar bone and/or shoulder problems too but I don’t remember you ever citing that as a reason for his “never living up to expectations”

  117. Doodie Machetto on

    I was wrong about Gaborik scoring 40 this year, no question.

    But I appear to have been dead on about Brassard being about a 40 point player and Dorsett being a very poor man’s Prust. I believe I was also right to say we should’ve moved Gaborik for high draft picks instead of mediocre roster players.

    I’m not sure about John Moore. Initially, h was much, much better than I was expecting. Lately he’s been very hot-cold. I still think that when this deal shakes out, he will have been the best part of it.

  118. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    With Gabby, it’s always some injury…..soft tissue, hard tissue….bones, no bones….

  119. Doodie Machetto on

    Because he seems to have put those problems past him as he had played three straight seasons of 74+ games. Gaborik has never had 2.

  120. I was using last year as well, Doodie, when Brassard just straight up outscored Gaborik. But if you want to pro-rate post trade, Brassard is on 16-34-50 pace to Gaborik’s 22-33-55. At less than half the cost. And while actually hitting the ice consistently. Its not a bad thing to say “yeah, this trade has worked out pretty great for the Rangers”.

  121. Doodie Machetto on

    No, not ever broken bones. That’s a totally different circumstance than soft tissue. And like I said, Gaborik’s knee injury this year, I give him no leeway for it. That’s the kind of injury you need to worry about with him.

  122. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Doodie – after the trade, many here wondered how many games Gabby would miss this year….he is injury prone and that fact is indisputable.

  123. Doodie Machetto on

    Dude, how the hell did you come up with Brassard’s pace? He’s on pace for 11-32-43.

  124. Even though Gaborik again scored 40 as a Ranger, beyond his first season here, he rarely, if ever, displayed that trademark wrister.

  125. I hated the Gaborik trade at the time, but it has worked out for the Rangers. They sure could use what a healthy Gaborik provides, though.

    However, maybe they’re starting to figure out how to score some goals. They are getting some contributions throughout the lineup. Hank needs to settle down.

  126. _Dude, how the hell did you come up with Brassard’s pace? He’s on pace for 11-32-43._

    “if you want to pro-rate post trade …”

  127. Oh. We’re arguing about Brassard again! Let’s argue about more people that won’t be on the team next year.

  128. Unless we’re tossing out the 13 games both played last year because it supports Brassard over Gaborik. We can do that, if you like.

  129. I, for one, am happy Nash is on that team. With less contact and bigger ice he really might get some confidence back. Plus, he will be playing with some of the best in the world (not including *Giroux*) and I think that has to help him.

    In my opinion Stepan absolutely deserves to be on the US team. He has a very successful history of leadership and winning at the international level.

  130. Doodie Machetto on

    I mean, I was wrong about Gaborik, you were wrong about Richards. These things happen.

  131. yeah it’s time to make Cam Talbot the nominal starter. we’re now in January and Lundqvist has not yet proven he’s the better of the two this season. I’m not sure if his level has dipped as the Rangers’ D in front of him has declined but he’s simply not looking like a starting goaltender right now. give him a seat for a while and see what happens.

  132. Doodie Machetto on

    So does Chris Drury, but I don’t see anyone trying to get him out of retirement for the squad.

  133. Brassard *is* a 40 point player. He just *is*

    I know people want him to fulfill his potential and all that but if he’s on our team and we are relying on his to put up 60 we are in serious trouble.

  134. Doodie Machetto on

    I was shocked that after the game, Sather didn’t trade a third round pick to Toronto for *CABER!*

  135. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Brassard is a 40 point player. He just is_

    _I know people want him to fulfill his potential and all that but if he’s on our team and we are relying on his to put up 60 we are in serious trouble._

    Said like a boss. (:

  136. That would be *Great* The Doctor. Maybe, in early March, we can trade Nash for *Pacioretty*

  137. Brassard is a 40-point forward, no doubt

    and there is a 3-word phrase for 40-point forwards in the NHL…

  138. So did Brassard’s passing just get better over the last month? No other changes, just some better passes and an unrelated scoring streak?

  139. I did then and do now *love* the Gaborik trade. Love it. Gaborik was never re-signing here and he was injured all the time. If *one* of those guys sticks around it’s worth it. And Brassard has helped fill out some weak depth at Center. John Moore has shown some ability on the offensive front and Dorsett really is a poor man’s Prust and we all know how I feel about *The Prust*

  140. eddie eddie eddie on

    I am not sure thrilled is the right word….but was happy to get him….but after last year….I would have cut that chord….

  141. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Maybe, in early March, we can trade Nash for Pacioretty_

    Why would you want to make a lateral trade for a worse, less established player?

  142. Doodie Machetto on

    But you’re telling me that if you could redo the Gaborik trade, you wouldn’t move him for picks instead? That was always my beef with the trade. Not that Gaborik was traded, just that we got mediocrity in return. I would have rather gotten Moore and our first rounder from the Nash trade. We could’ve drafted Hunter Shinkaruk or Anthony Mantha with that pick.

  143. It could only be based on the playoffs because Nash was exactly the same player he’s always been during the regular season, if only for 48 games. Even better.

  144. eddie eddie eddie on

    His game tying goal with seconds left in the third against the caps in in Game 5 was one of my favorite moments as a fan……

  145. I totally *understand* that thinking. Picks would be great. But this is Glen Sather we are talking about. He would have traded away the picks immediately or he would have drafted a bunch of useless, large Defenseman.

    If this team had a chance to get Mantha I would give up Dorsett, Brassard and Moore in a heartbeat to get him.

    I just don’t think that’s a reality with this Front Office.

  146. St. Louis must be scratching his head raw. What did he have to do? Really stupid decision.

  147. The Rangers should have gotten the same package of players and at least a 2nd round pick back. They are the only team to trade an elite scorer and not get a high pick back. They have up two 2nds and a 3rd for a 0 goal scorer.

  148. eddie eddie eddie on

    Given Sather and company’s abject failure drafting great players….not sure if that would have been so good either…..The shame of last year’s moves was the damaged Clowe…..Had we gotten the Clowe from 4 years ago, I think the Rangers beat Boston last year…

  149. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _He would have drafted a bunch of useless, large Defenseman._

    Dylan McIlrath, to cite one example.

  150. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Doodie Machetto,
    The return for Gaborik was disappointing. One 3L, one 4L, one 3rd pair D. Draft picks and prospects should have been the return sought by Sather.

  151. eddie eddie eddie on

    gravy – the gabby that the rangers traded was not an elite scorer…..He was a good scorer…getting 40 three times…..but he was not elite when traded and his best days are long behind him….

  152. Yes, but then why force the trade? If it was the coach, then why fire the coach? Just not a lot of foresight.

  153. Well, that’s pretty much the story, Gravy. Never should have fired Torts after trading Gaborik. But I was a big fan of trading Gaborik for the *future*

  154. I would have given Torts a lifetime contract. Not really. But I don’t get firing the guy that took you to the ECF after a lockout shortened season in which his “star” players either disappeared or were injured.

  155. E3, in hindsight, you were right. However, he was only not a 40 goal scorer for half a season.

  156. eddie eddie eddie on

    Brassard was the rangers’ best playoff performer last year…he clearly liked playing on the big stage…..He is a good player. Perhaps he is the kind of player that puts up average numbers during the season (I think he’s capable and will do much better this second half) and really goes balls off during the playoffs….

  157. eddie eddie eddie on

    lloyd – nothing. But gabby’s trade was positive and Torts was wearing his welcome out sooner than later and it was a matter of time…I was calling for his head during the season….

  158. Have to get to the playoffs to perform in the playoffs. But, in his first real taste, he did play well.

  159. Agree on Torts Manny. And clearly on the Gaborik trade, and he was never going to resign here.

  160. eddie eddie eddie on

    Gravy – agreed….

    Round 1: Rangers vs Caps (assuming Tam is allowed to carry a greater load than been given)

    Rangers in 6 : Brassard, 4 goals 9 assists in 6 games as the Rangers chase Holtby in two games…

  161. Sather Must Go! on

    Gravy, that’s does always seem to be the case: scorers are traded for picks… The worse part of the gaaby trade for me was columbus had THREE firsters in that draft and we settled on players colubus were anxious to get rid of…

  162. eddie eddie eddie on

    I also think that *THE* is going to be a huge force the 2nd half and into the playoffs…

  163. Change it had to come
    We knew it all along
    We were liberated from the fall that’s all
    But the world looks just the same
    And history ain’t changed
    ‘Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war

  164. eddie eddie eddie on

    Again, the Gabby trade has worked out for the rangers…we got the better end of that stick

  165. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Has Carp not said enough that the market for Gaborik was really, really soft?_

    He said it, so it must be true. (;

  166. Midnight on the water
    I saw the ocean’s daughter
    Walking on a wave she came
    Starring as she called my name

  167. I dunno. I think the best you can say about the Gaborik trade right at this moment is that it’s a wash. Brassard and Moore were both better at the end of last year and Gaborik was better than both this year. Dorsett is a middling 4th liner and out with an injury. I think if you were going to have Tortorella as the coach it no longer made any sense to have Gaborik so trading him made sense. Whether or not they could have done better is debatable but I don’t think the Rangers are appreciably better today because they traded Marian Gaborik.

  168. My comments are pre-hindsight.

    Speaking of hindsight, I read Kim Kardashian posted some more pics.

  169. McDonough spotted at Gleason’s Gym shadow boxing a silhouette of Synderella.

    Synderella in a TKO.

  170. _I don’t think the Rangers are appreciably better today because they traded Marian Gaborik_

    I don’t think anyone does, just merely “better off”.

  171. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _I don’t think the Rangers are appreciably better today because they traded Marian Gaborik._

    They are not better now because of that trade and they did not augment the future in that trade.

  172. John Moops is just one more successful fight away from fans retiring his number to the rafters. That’s how bad it is around Sather’s Softpillows.

  173. It’s a fact Rangers won on the Gabby trade.

    CBJ – won on the Nash Trade. Don’t forget they got a 1’st round draft pick out of the deal. (Kirby Rychel – gold medal winner with the Canadian team) then the value of Dubi, Artie, Erixon.

  174. Nash just hasn’t been what he was.

    NOT in the playoffs.

    NOT this year.

    It just seems we flounder at .500 since they traded for him.

  175. eddie eddie eddie on

    lloyd – gabby has played in what 10 games? How has he been better? injuries must be part of any equation….CBJ certainly isn’t happy with the trade I dont’ expect Gabby will be there next year…

  176. But hey he’s a gold medal winner with TEAM Canada, so he must be worth it.

    Right?????

  177. 3E – Someone with give Gabby a deal. But not the big bucks he’s looking for.

    He would be a rental this year, but for who?

  178. It’s now or never for a somewhat rebuild. Because Sather is the GM it won’t happen and more bad contracts will follow which will bury the rangers deeper into mediocrity.

  179. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    If attaining a 3L, 4L and 6D is winning a trade, then what is losing a trade?

  180. that Gaborik has only appeared in 18 games this season and basically hasn’t played since early November is definitely part of the discussion, but my point is that he was playing better that Brassard while he was in the Columbus lineup. Brassard’s played more than double the games so his durability vs. Gaborik’s total lack of durability is a benefit. but yeah, when it comes down to it: you landed a 40-point forward, what looks to be a bottom pairing d-man, and a very average 4th-liner.

  181. Anyone remember last year’s D? Without Moore, we’d have Hamrlik and Archie Bunker as third pair.

  182. so this year you’ve got John Moore and Anton Stralman. reserve the Canyon of Heroes now.

  183. eddie eddie eddie on

    Clowe’s noodle really hurt the Ranger’s chances…..a better medical workout/checkup should have been done…

  184. Within the next year, the Kreider’s reputation will grow and he will become the most feared body checker the league.

    Book It.

  185. Clowe deal brought 3 draft picks.

    Anyone know what the condition was for this year 2014 2nd round pick. Did they have to resign him to get it.

  186. Mister D, well sure but that comment doesn’t have anything to do with what I posted

  187. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Mister D attempts and fails to apply logic._

  188. When there’s no legit #’s 4, 5 or 6 and your former # 3 has one eye and can’t count backwards from 10, is it a wonder we give up 3+ goals a night?

  189. _Mister D, well sure but that comment doesn’t have anything to do with what I posted_

    It does as it always does. You’re constantly “star or sucks” in your analysis of players. Moore is tangibly better than the other junk we’ve run through the 3rd pair the past few years (and would be running through this year without him around).

  190. Are we at the point where (contract permitting) Lundqvist goes to Hartford to find his game?

  191. I don’t really have a problem with John Moore and I really thought the guy was a lot better than he appears to be during the playoffs last year. But ever since he’s looked like a bottom-pairing defenseman. That’s not knocking him for not being a star, just assessing the role of the player. Within the context of the trade, trading a top-line forward, who, admittedly, is chronically injured, for three average players was the discussion. Whether you weren’t paying attention or just popped in here to troll, I’m not sure, but again, your comment has nothing to do with what I said.

  192. Your “canyon of heroes” “joke” when comparing Moore to McCabe types was typical Lloyd.

  193. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Hey look, it’s Mister D deflecting attention away from his own stupidity by insinuating that I’m Lloyd. Again!_

  194. Manny,

    Yes, Stralman is terrible and always has been. What bugs me is that there were people here who tried to claim he was was actually pretty good; they’ve all mysteriously vanished this season.

  195. Mister Troll,

    That had everything to do with Anton Stralman, who is among the worse defensemen in the NHL. But again, I wouldn’t expect you to get that as you’re obviously not reading anything.

  196. :) The literal Archie Bunker. The guy who said, while looking at a Picasso, “A monkey could do that.”

  197. But either / any / every way, a 2C/3C who plays on the PP, an ostensible Prust replacement and a potential long term 3LD is a good return for a guy making $7.5MM to underproduce or sit out. At the time, it looked underwhelming, but revisiting its impossible to say we didn’t clearly win the trade.

  198. That’s the Archie Bunker who would have been on D for the NYR?

    I thought it was yet another of the many clever nicknames … and I thought I knew them all until Archie came out.

  199. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Carp asked you not to name call_

    Do you see a _name call_?

  200. _That had everything to do with Anton Stralman, who is among the worse defensemen in the NHL_

    Ok, so you’re again proving my point of “stars or sucks”. I very, very much do not like Stralman and if we resign him to a serious UFA contract I will take a video of myself barfing, but there are far worse D in the NHL. And we have far worse D who don’t play because Stralman registers as a competent enough RD.

  201. Stranger Nation on

    [Edith hands Archie a beer on the left side instead of the usual right]
    Archie: What are you doing?
    Edith: I thought you might like it on this side for a change.
    Archie: Is it gonna taste better on this side?

  202. would love to know who are the “far worse D” the Rangers have and if they’re also capable of getting absolutely torched at least once per game like the “competent enough” Anton Stralman.

  203. Falk, Bickel, super scorer Johnson, that Syvret guy we picked up for seemingly no reason …

  204. Retire Brad Park's #2 on

    George G – no….

    But I wouldn’t mind seeing less of him playing guitar with John McEnroe, yachting with Fran Healy, and driving his Maserati to fashion shoots and business meetings.

  205. Archie recommended, to prevent airplane hijackings, that every passenger be given a loaded revolver upon boarding. That’s the kind of mentality we need on D. :)

  206. _I’d play both Falk and Bickel over Stralman in a heartbeat_

    If Stralman goes unsigned this offseason, NHL GMs will be validating that opinion. I guess we’ll have to wait.

  207. Also, if Bickel were on the ice for a period per game, 1 blow by per night would be a great game.

  208. Retire Park’s #2: Now we have underwear ads and tanning salons. And the Fran Healy, yacht, Maserati stuff was barfable.

  209. and if you’re going to play a street cone defenseman, why not have it be one who can hit and fight as opposed to one who can’t do anything

  210. Because Bickel “can’t do anything” while Stralman “isn’t any better than mediocre”. Equating the two in terms of defensive play is wrongheaded.

  211. Vinegar has stated more than once that Stral was top 3. That’s how bad it’s become.

  212. I would *absolutely* play Bickel over Stralman. But, as you guys know, I hate Stralman. I also think this team needs a heavyweight badly.

  213. _not sure you’ve watched either if that’s what you’ve concluded_

    Again, willing to wager Stralman passes right through free agency like Bickel did waivers? And like you said, Bickel does add toughness, so he must subtract something in order to be that unappealing, right?

  214. Manny:

    Agreed, at least Bickel has some edge. Sure, in an ideal world you don’t want Stu Bickel as a 6th-defenseman but in an ideal world you don’t want Anton Stralman on your active roster.

  215. There are GMs who would happily take Stralman off the Rangers hands.

    IMO, and in the Rangers’ coaches opinions, he’s way better than Del Zotto, Moore and Falk, plus Hamrlik, Eminger, Caber and Archie Bunker.

    And please don’t take that as a ringing endorsement from me on Stralman.

  216. Doodie Machetto on

    I thought Stralman actually had a pretty good season last year and was strong in the 11-12 playoffs.

    Manny, the team hasn’t had a slow decline since 11-12, it’s had a precipitous one.

  217. If our great, heavily salaried hockey minds thought Bicks could play effectively, he would have been up here long, long ago. I like his toughness, but toughness alone doesn’t shovel my snow.

  218. _And please don’t take that as a ringing endorsement from me on Stralman._

    Bingo. He’s not good. But he also doesn’t suck. And if Bickel could play Stralman’s defense, he’d be on our 2nd line and we’d really love him, but Bickel sucks at playing defense.

  219. Doodie Machetto on

    It also helps him tremendously that he’s right handed. If he was left-handed, I’m not so sure he would be above those other guys.

  220. Apologies: The team has had a sharp, catastrophic decline since 2011-2012.

    Stralman is just mediocre, unengaged and really boring. Also he gets beat constantly. He makes horrible decisions (on the off chance he can actually make a decision)

  221. Doodie Machetto on

    Ever since Sauer went down, I’ve been saying we need another right handed defenseman.

    Speaking of which, any update on Sauer?

  222. I don’t doubt that Stralman could end up playing somewhere since he played somewhere before he ended up on the Rangers, but a 4th defenseman? that’s crazy talk

  223. Stralman is the lefty reliever you assume wouldn’t be in the league if he were righty. But he’s not so he is and that’s how it goes.

  224. Sauer=overrated because he played with McDonagh

    (that’s sarcasm for those who claim Girardi is a below-average D repeatedly bailed out by McDonagh).

  225. _Ever since Sauer went down, I’ve been saying we need another right handed defenseman._

    Yup. There’s a straight line from that injury to why Stralman has a job in NY. And its a straight line that has a lot of my tears on it.

  226. Doodie Machetto on

    He’s a third pairing guy on a better team, but he’s a top 6 on almost every team.

    Listen, this team isn’t only one game over 500 because of Anton Stralman.

  227. Doodie Machetto on

    I don’t think Girardi is below average. I think he is just average. He’s Brad Stuart-esque. He’s a great 2nd pairing guy who can fill in admirably on your first pair.

  228. Some people just want above-average players at every spot in the lineup. Stralman being #3 or #4 is a stretch, but think if your bottom four were Staal, MDZ, Eminger, and Moore. Yeesh.

  229. Carp you think the are only three defensemen better than Anton Stralman on the Rangers?

  230. Stranger Nation on

    They laughed at Robert Fulton but without him, New York wouldn’t have a fish market.

  231. Doodie Machetto on

    So slightly above-average, even. But he’s not this great player that he was in 11-12. Not by a longshot.

  232. Again, would love to hear what Ovechkin and Crosby and Tavares think of Girardi. Because they all have disappeared in a lot of games against 27-5 in recent years, and that’s not all because of 27.

  233. Stranger Nation on

    The hookeries and massageries…the whole world is turning into a regular Sodom and Glaucamorra.

  234. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _I don’t think Girardi is below average. I think he is just average._

    Correct.

    Stralman is below average.

  235. When a forward breezes by Stral and scores, I like the way #6 smacks his stick on the post. Shows he cares. :)

  236. I really want a lineup where we can push Stralman to the 3rd pairing where he becomes overpaid.

  237. I mean even if you want to bury Del Zotto, calling Stralman a 5 is a stretch but Girardi, Moore, McDonagh and Staal are all better than Stralman. Falk is bigger and stronger. Del Zotto stinks but has more upside. Stralman’s claim to fame is getting whiplash from opposing 3rd-liners blowing by him.

  238. Wait, so are we considering #4 defensemen below average? Does any team have 6 defensemen that they just roll out shift after shift because they are all above average?

  239. Doodie Machetto on

    They laughed at Mr. Machetto Sr. Sr., but without him, there wouldn’t be a Doodie Machetto Sr., a Doodie Machetto, and a Doodie Jr.

  240. I think there are more than three D who _can_ be better than Stralman or are more talented or who I’d protect in an expansion draft, but that’s not what plays tomorrow night.

  241. Well, J. Moops hasn’t shown me anything this season that screams he’s nearly as good as Stralman, IMO. And I like the kid and his upside. I also agree, Del Zotto has more upside, but he’s stunk the joint up all season. Falk is Bickel.

  242. How good is THE Kreider?

    I can’t even put my finger on it … he’s so good. He is the second coming. He’s already better than Crosby on account that 1) he’s not Crosby, 2) he’ll soon clock Crosby into oblivion.

    I’d like to say that the ceiling for him is sky high, but that doesn’t do it justice.

    He is the only real man on this Rangers team composed of tutu-wearing weaksauces who prefer to watch Downton Abbey and sip on ginger tea than put in some extra hours at the rink.

    THE Kreider is an animal.

  243. _I really want a lineup where we can push Stralman to the 3rd pairing where he becomes overpaid._

    I kind of wonder if that exists. If you assume most teams have four lefties and that lefties tend to be more talented, there’s probably a case to be made that Stralman is either second pair (because coaches love L/R) or 7th D. Life if Sauer is around, I bet we don’t even sign Stralman. And if we do, I think you want MDZ and Moore outplaying him and keeping their spots.

  244. That’s probably a good way to put it, The Doctor. There are a few guys (Del Zotto, J. Moore, Conor Allen) that *should* be better than *Stralman* but they really arent. Falk should definitely be a 3rd pair guy that can hang in the NHL. The Rangers seem to make people’s confidence and potential just evaporate.

  245. Loved to see #21 in the litter box banging his gloves on the glass over and over. There are still dents in his old bedroom door when Mommy told him, “Go To Your Room!”

  246. JR – “Canada’s seclusion of Saint Louis from the team isn’t going down well with those in Canadia.”

  247. I think Bickel is *much* worse than Falk. Falk can at least cover for people sometimes. Bickel is not very good. I readily admit that. But when it comes to the tough stuff *Bickel* is world’s above Falk.

  248. I will say, though, that @6 kinda saved our azz late last year, when you consider the alternatives.

  249. I’d be willing to bet a lot of hot dogs (you out there Eric?) that Stralman has an NHL top-four job and Falk is in the AHL when next season begins.

  250. Mad Step was great just because he seems like such a happy, goofy guy. McLovin on skates.

  251. JR – “Only a pauper would throw the dice against the insatiable odds that Team USA faces in not losing the gold medal.”

  252. Doodie Machetto on

    Interesting time for Carcillo. Games against Chicago and Philly within a week. Can’t wait for him to get into a fight against Philly and the idiots at the Garden cheering for that piece of carcillo.

  253. JR – “I’m willing to throw a lot of hot dogs down a hallway to prove to you that Strawman is a caprese defenseman”

  254. I can never cheer for Carcillo. I just can’t. Good thing Raffi Torres was injured and Patrick Kaleta is in the AHL or Sather might have scooped them up.

  255. the real upside to Carcillo is that it was one of the few times in recent memory that the Rangers made a move involving a player someone has heard of

  256. Is anyone else surprised that Conor Allen got sent down? I would have thought that he could stay up. I guess this means that they are *not* trading Del Zotto and that they will re-sign Girardi.

  257. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Unless the Terminator finds him first._

    John Connor

  258. would have been nice to see Conor Allen stick around for a while since he was playing well, certainly better than Anton Stralman (and Del Zotto for that matter)

  259. Yea Roszival would easily be in our 2nd pairing. I mean…easily. He might be the 3rd best Defenseman on the team.

  260. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Really? I had no idea._

    Your joke was not funny.

  261. are we talking 35-year old Rozsival? then yeah, probably 4th or 5th. if we’re talking even Ranger era Rozsival, he’s top 2.

  262. Total guess: I think they’re praying that Del Zotto, by playing, might get his value up a bit. Because it was nose-diving whether he played or didn’t play this season.
    Otherwise, Allen might still be in the lineup. And if Allen’s gonna sit, he should be in Hartford playing. Can be back in an hour if they need him, plus doesn’t require waivers, obviously. I believe Allen’s ahead of Falk on the depth chart at this point.

  263. I agree, Carp. I think if Falk had any hope of climbing the depth chart he would be in the AHL. They have given up on him. He’s here as a backup.

  264. ‘Goin’ to Chicago,
    Sorry but I can’t take you.
    Goin’ to Chicago,
    Sorry, but I can’t take you.
    No use in crying
    Tired of your lying

    There ain’t nothing in Chicago
    That a monkey woman can do.’

  265. Falk is just new Eminger, but with a 3-5% chance he was acquired with the wrong guy in mind.

  266. Agree Allen’s demotion was just numbers/playing time related. AV even said he was one of their better defensemen in the games he played.

  267. well of course Allen was demoted because he was being scratched but why scratch him in the first place

  268. And Stralman too often thinks he’s Bobby Orr slapping shots from 35 feet into crowds instead of trying to work the puck to a shooter.

  269. And MDZ is second only to Richie in flinging the puck anywhere and everywhere to avoid a hit.

  270. It’s fun sitting in front of my Apple pretending I’m working. Maybe a hockey novel? Unlikely, but I guess I like kidding myself.

  271. _Falk is just new Eminger, but with a 3-5% chance he was acquired with the wrong guy in mind._

    lmgo

  272. Retire Brad Park's #2 on

    I think Stralman is a 4.5 defenseman (between top 4 and #5). The comparison to Roszival isn’t far off the mark. I liked Roszival, but it seemed like he would get nervous, and it really showed on the PP, where he had trouble keeping the puck in the zone. I understood why they traded him, but replacing him with McCabe was a joke.

    Back to Stralman. I do like him, and with Staal’s injuries, he’s had to play top 4 minutes. Is he a bona fide top 4? No. But we could do, and have done, a lot worse than him.

    And I haven’t given up on Del Zotto. I know he has struggled, but he’s young and has skills. Banishing him to another town may make some people happy, but he’ll be replaced by a Wolfpack d-man who deserves to play in Connecticut, not at MSG.

    I get as frustrated as anyone on this blog, but we have bigger issues (5 on 5 play, Hanka Hanka) than the #5 and #6 defensemen.

  273. Hmm. Idea. Boyle type, 6’7, 240, losing his way, becomes unlikely, unscrupulous thug enforcer to extend career, marries supermodel who ruins his life.

  274. _And MDZ is second only to Richie in flinging the puck anywhere and everywhere to avoid a hit._

    Here’s a fun one. Hits absorbed per 60 … you’ll never guess who’s last …

    Justin Falk: 8.3
    Derek Dorsett: 8.0
    Carl Hagelin: 7.2
    Conor Allen: 6.9
    John Moore: 6.3
    Dominic Moore: 6.1
    J.T. Miller: 5.8
    Jesper Fast: 5.7
    Dan Girardi: 5.7
    Anton Stralman: 5.6
    Brian Boyle: 5.4
    Chris Kreider: 5.1
    Ryan Callahan: 5.1
    Benoit Pouliot: 4.7
    Taylor Pyatt: 4.5
    Derek Stepan: 4.3
    Dylan McIlrath: 4.3
    Marc Staal: 4.1
    Michael Del Zotto: 3.8
    Derick Brassard: 3.6
    Mats Zuccarello: 3.5
    Ryan McDonagh: 2.8
    Arron Asham: 2.7
    Rick Nash: 2.6
    Brandon Mashinter: 2.2
    Brad Richards: 1.6

  275. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Ryan McDonagh is not *tough* enough. *Cromulence*.

  276. Thanks, Carp. I guess we should trade McDonagh if he isn’t going to put in the time. Probably thinks Team USA is his priority now. Loser.

  277. Prust would have broken his other fibula to get back in symmetry and not missed a game.

  278. “Is that kid Bobby Orr right handed or left?”

    “Left.”

    “Forget it, I need a right.”

  279. Sather Must Go! on

    I think msz is worse han richie – did u see that icing last night? Somefwd was like five feet away and he just shot it down the ice..

  280. all this talk is great. but the real issue is that No. 6 is hardly the issue with this team. Start with 30, 61, 19, 21, sometimes 62 and 16, and the pre-concussion performance for a few weeks of 18.

  281. Way too many real issues to contemplate. Let’s finish burying #6 before we move on. :)

  282. I imagine w/ DZ its more fear of not getting the puck out of the zone and getting nailed to the bench than it is taking contact. He’s never been shy about that before.

  283. Somebody’s made the mistake of pushing MDZ to emphasize his O zone play, when, in reality, if he shored up his D, regained his grit, and worked at getting the puck out of that zone quickly and accurately, he might regain some of his one-time semi-lustre. Either they have him confused or he’s confusing himself.

  284. IMO, Del Zotto is (was last year) better defensively than the expectations, and not nearly the offensive player he was pegged to be when he arrived. Of course, this year he’s been bad both ways.

  285. Stranger Nation on

    MEZ had 2 classic puck clears/icings in trying to avoid hits early in game. Lumbus must have been licking their chops

    did Artie play last night? didn’t notice him much…

  286. Retire Brad Park's #2 on

    Remember Blair McDonald?

    He was lucky enough to play on Wayne Gretzky’s line in 79-80 and scored 46 goals. With the emergence of Jari Kurri, Messier, and Glenn Anderson, he lost his first line spot and job on the Oilers. He was out of the league within two years.

    A fire hydrant could have scored 30 goals playing with TGO.

  287. Yeah, I love the “so what, you still bring Kunitz because of his chemistry with Crosby” like 100 other wings wouldn’t find chemistry with Crosby. Still, its great news for every non-Canada country.

  288. Blair McDonald. That’s the name I was searching for the other day when we were talking about Kunitz and Warren Young and Rob Brown.

  289. _IMO, Del Zotto is (was last year) better defensively than the expectations, and not nearly the offensive player he was pegged to be when he arrived. Of course, this year he’s been bad both ways._

    The worst part about this is you can see he knows it. There’s no real reason 2011-12 has to be the outlier in his career. Maybe the 10 goals is high, but the assists and overall play should still be obtainable.

  290. I bet Derick Brassard would score more than 40 points if he played w/ Crosby. Just a hunch.

  291. I imagine it’ll be obtained somewhere else when he’s back as a 2LD who doesn’t get drilled for every mistake.

  292. Yeah, Carp. Before Kunitz got to play with Crosby, he was on a line with Getzlaf and Perry, IIRC. Pretty sweet ride for him.

  293. Doodie Machetto on

    “all this talk is great. but the real issue is that No. 6 is hardly the issue with this team. Start with 30, 61, 19, 21, sometimes 62 and 16, and the pre-concussion performance for a few weeks of 18.”

    Bingo. As I said above, the reason this team is only 1 game above .500 isn’t Anton Stralman.

  294. Chris Kunitz is the Tom Glavine of hockey, except they don’t change the rules for Kunitz.

  295. DAMMIT COOS THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY JOKE WHEN SOMEONE ASKED “WHAT DO YOU MEAN CHANGE THE RULES?”!!!

  296. Doodie Machetto on

    If Kunitz can score 25ish goals every year with Crosby, why wouldn’t they bring Moulson who scored 30+ every year with Tavares?

  297. Stranger Nation on

    MEZ is not…what is the word…hmmm….oh, yeah, smart.

    MEZ is not a smart guy, has terrible defensive zone instincts. If he was on another team he will be languishing there too.

    Staal has played much much better recently.

  298. ThisYearsModel on

    So, I see that Rob Brown II made Canada’s roster. Wow. Fortunately for them, they are so good that they can more than make up for having Rob and Nick Rash on their team.

  299. Jees, Ralph Branca appearing next month at the Burns Theater recounting AGAIN one pitch from 1951. He’s 86, appears all over the country, and still selling that long ago October day. More power to him.

  300. NY Football Giants decades ago incoming player questionnaire: (true)

    Do you play any musical instruments? If so, how long?

    1 player’s answer, forget who it was: “Yes. Piano. About 6 feet.”

  301. Hagerstown Md Rangers fan on

    Now that Kreider has clearly established himself as a very good NHL player the Ranger brass will do what they always do and trade him for some tomato can.

  302. Did you know the Driller, coos?

    ever see his business card? It’s a picture of him, standing on top of a giant tooth with a jackhammer and a Rangers-designed construction worker’s helmet.

    and it said, “Miller the Driller, the Cavity Filler” if I’m not mistaken.

  303. Del Zotto looks to be about a 25-30-point defenseman at best. That 40+ figure from 11-12 looks to be on par with Boyle’s 21 goals the year before. That being said, you can live with 25-30 points from Del Zotto if he looked like he was capable of anything more defensively than feebly crosschecking opposing players in the back and was capable of putting a shot on goal every once in a while.

  304. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    Carp
    I couldn’t agree more about the stupid boarding rule and the way guys put themselves in such a defenceless position.

    I would make it a penalty, “reckless endangerment” or something, when a guy turns his numbers to the oncoming hitter along the boards.

  305. It’s true. Guys used to absorb the hit and *then* move the puck. Now it’s all, get the puck, put your back to the guy bearing down on you and try to move the puck before you get hit.

  306. Did see one long ago, Carp. A waitress in a Bedford restaurant got one (not handed to her, rather left with the tip) and showed it to me. She was a looker, much younger and assumed it was an attempted hit, which I’m sure it was, since it included his phone #. Same thing with Paul Shaffer, Letterman’s band leader. :)

  307. And since she was my live-in girlfriend at the time, I didn’t take kindly to it. Looking back, it’s a hoot.

  308. _That 40+ figure from 11-12 looks to be on par with Boyle’s 21 goals the year before_

    I’d bet my life on DZ hitting 40 before I’d bet $1K on Boyle scoring 21.

  309. I love the absurd abject hatred of Rangers fans to European defensemen. Stralman, Rozsival, Rachunek, Ozolinsh, Malik, Mirinov, Malakhov, even Kasparitis at the end, and I’m probably missing a few. Good thing we traded Tyutin, his day would have come. Same with Tim Erixon, he had no chance.

    Bickel straight up can’t play NHL defense, it’s obvious. Get over the whole ‘toughness’ thing – it’s not 1990’s hockey anymore. Dare I say Beukeboom probably wouldn’t even be able to skate in today’s NHL.

    PS – I would bet 25 out 30 GMs would take Stralman at $1.7m.

  310. From the Weather Channel:
    Daily record lows broken today in the South (old records in parentheses): 19 (21) in Savannah, Ga.; 11 (14) in Macon, Ga.; 6 (10) in Atlanta; 12 (15) in Augusta, Ga.; 7 (12) in Athens, Ga.; 20 (26) at St. Simons Island, Ga.; 20 (21) in Charleston, S.C.; 6 (9) in Greenville-Spartanburg, S.C.; 13 (16) in Columbia, S.C.; 14 (18) in Florence, S.C.; 4 (5) in Huntsville, Ala.; 7 (11) in Birmingham, Ala.; 14 (18) in Mobile, Ala.; 13 (17) in Vicksburg, Miss.; 11 (15) in Meridian, Miss.; 14 (16) in Jackson, Miss.; 19 (25) in Gulfport, Miss.; 14 (16) in McComb, Miss.; 10 (18) in Greenwood, Miss.; 2 (6) in Knoxville, Tenn.; 5 (9) in Chattanooga, Tenn.; -1 (5) in Kingsport, Tenn.; -1 (3) in Asheville, N.C.; 9 (15) in Raleigh, N.C.; 5 (14) in Greensboro, N.C.; 6 (12) in Charlotte, N.C.; 13 (15) in Elizabeth City, N.C.; 13 (15) in Monroe, La.; 19 (20) in Baton Rouge, La.; 17 (20) in Slidell, La.; 12 (17) in Austin, Texas.
    Daily record lows broken today in the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast (old records in parentheses): -8 (0) in Bluefield, W.V.; -8 (7) in Lewisburg, W.V.; -7 (-4) in Morgantown, W.V.; -5 (1) in Blacksburg, Va.; 8 (10) in Danville, Va.; 2 (10) in Lynchburg, Va.; 1 (8) in Roanoke, Va.; 10 (12) in Richmond, Va.; 3 (8) at Dulles Airport in northern Virginia; 3 (8) in Baltimore; 4 (6) in New York City; 4 (7) in Philadelphia; -9 (-5) in Pittsburgh; 0 (5) in Harrisburg, Pa.; -5 (-2) in Williamsport, Pa.; -8 (-5) at Mount Pocono, Pa.; 1 (6) in Reading, Pa.; 2 (6) in Trenton, N.J.; 3 (10) in Newark, N.J.; 4 (10) in Wilmington, Del.
    Daily record lows broken today in the Midwest (old records in parentheses): -11 (-7) in Cleveland; -11 (-5) in Akron-Canton, Ohio; -12 (-7) in Mansfield, Ohio; -14 (-6) in Toledo, Ohio; -12 (-6) in Youngstown, Ohio; -7 (-5) in Columbus, Ohio; -9 (-3) in New Philadelphia, Ohio; -8 (-3) in Zanesville, Ohio; -14 (-5) in Detroit; -14 (-10) in Flint, Mich.

  311. 0 NHL GMs would take Stu Bickel based on my advanced projections model and my knowing that he cleared waivers.

  312. A little bit ago I walked the dog less than 1/2 a mile and I almost died. Its very cold.

  313. Carp – -24 tonight here in the land of the Sioux.

    It’s the wind that kills you, add in a 15-20mph wind. Everything breaks at -40 to -60 below.

  314. Maybe the weather is why we’re over 600 comments already … or maybe it’s the tantalizing hockey conversation.

  315. Just wear a mask on your daily jog. Still did 10 miles yesterday. It wasn’t that big of deal.

  316. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _0 NHL GMs would take Dan Carcillo based on my advanced projections model_

  317. Rob in Beantown on

    _How do you not run out and buy Labatt’s new beer can._

    Cause they’re filled with Labatt :)

  318. Those Cans Rock Rob. I think I would buy them for the next 4 years :)

    Eddie I’m coming over!!!!

  319. 3E – On my way!!!

    I have the Hockey-Hot Tub-Igloo combination up here if your ever interested :)

  320. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Ha, Mister D couldn’t even derive the point of that post.

    There is almost always going to be a GM stupid enough to desire a player. One exception to the rule is Sean Avery following his Rangers redux.

  321. Another exception is Stu Bickel, hence the joke. This is getting worse, right? It feels like its getting worse.

  322. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Another exception is Stu Bickel_

    No GM claimed Bickel, thus no GM besides Sather will ever attain Bickel. That is your contention, yes?

  323. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Sioux – I used to be the way re: temperature. But now, anything below 50 seems cold ;)

  324. Post damaged Staal better than Stralman? At times, yes. Other times, no. I believe they call that a toss up?

  325. leetchhalloffame on

    Wake up from your winter slumber Slats. Time to trade all the dead weight, then resign as GM. Guess I should wake up now.

  326. Carp,
    OMG I was going to comment on the Kreider going down the wing lately and early last night reminds me of Guy LeFleur, then thought better of writing it. But you wrote it first and he resembles him, way more powerful way less of a sniper so far.

  327. Canada bad picks Nash n Carter shoulda been St.louis n Staal. Seabrook should be on the team as well. I still think Nash was mediocre, bar is set way too low on this guy.

  328. Mista Edrie, prease put some crows on or you get rocked up by powice and go to Jair for very rong time. Preese mista edrie, crothes on! ChopChop.

  329. eddie eddie eddie on

    papa bear – i fraid of jair. me go crazy rocked up with all the pea purr. chop chop

  330. Jeff Carter is kinda just their Bobby Ryan, right? He didn’t seem nearly as bad as Nash who didn’t seem nearly as bad as Kunitz who seemed very bad.

  331. A near-iconic expression that Jim Gordon used almost nightly while calling Rangers games:

    “Loose puck in front! (pause, followed by) No Ranger there.”

  332. Neil young solo at Carnegie Hall last night tonight and two more…..that’s a Canadian All Star. What a solo set with so many more not played @ 68 highly impressive, made it thru a enormous amount of stuff in his life. Set list in Daily news. WOW

  333. The Big Whistle:

    “One of Chadwick’s favorite names to mis-pronounce was that of Reggie Leach of the Philadelphia Flyers. Bill insisted on calling him “LEASH” instead of “LEACH”, and each time he said it, thousands of dogs in the Metropolitan Area would presumably respond by jumping up for a walk.” John Halligan

  334. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Papa – that brought back memories…

    Hedberg – don’t let it bring you down….

  335. How many times did the Big whistle say this kid they brought up is supposed to be a tough customer and then lose a scrap badly…..Frank “seldom” Beaton quickly changed to Frank “always or badly Beaton. Lol best of NY solo On the way home. Imop

  336. The Whistle related that he occasionally made a mistake on ice when in stripes, and inevitably someone on the “offending” team would skate to him and complain, and he’d say, “So I made a mistake. You ever make a mistake? Play hockey.”

  337. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Jim Gordon was brilliant as well…..and bill mazer on Sunday nights “sports extra”

    Back in the day, NBC’s today show would show the previous night’s highlights (especially Sunday and Wednesday night’s game at the Garden) right at 7:48 am to the second….

  338. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Pancakes with diced apples and mixed with flax seed, OJ (unlimited) coffee with vanilla ice cream ;)

  339. I no rike poriticians. They rike to rook pretty and raugh a rot. They no foor me. Rousy riars and raw breakers. ChopChop.

  340. ‘I’m so young and you’re so old
    This, my darling I’ve been told
    I don’t care just what they say
    ‘Cause forever I will pray
    You and I will be as free
    As the birds up in the trees
    Oh, please, stay by me, Diana.’

  341. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Milbury – “you cannot tell me Marty St Loius shouldn’t have made Team Canada over Coon it’s and rick gnash based on their play this year”

    Are you kidding. Gnasher has almost 10 goals this year. That leads the league, no?

  342. Boy, wouldn’t Richie love doing swirls and figure eights and triple toe loops on that big Olympic ice while pretending he’s forechecking!

  343. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    My wife is younger, I have a hunger, a bee almost stung her, tonight I will tongue her, the hangman hung her, Carl Jung errr, King Kung her, songs I sung her….

    Boyeeeeeeeeeeeee

  344. ‘I study nuclear science
    I love my classes
    I got a crazy teacher, he wears dark glasses
    Things are going great, and they’re only getting better
    I’m doing all right, getting good grades
    The future’s so bright, I gotta wear shades.’

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