To view the entire U.S. Olympic team roster, including New Rochelle’s Kevin Shattenkirk, click here.
You can use this site: http://www.quanthockey.com to see what players are from which countries. You can sort by Nationality if you scroll down.
after a few seconds the quality improves somewhat.
lol, ‘professional’ interlocutors saying over and over “this one’s for Ryan…”
What’s the deal with “The Odd Couple?”
between low cutters…
can somebody tell me … I had to go out for a while during the game, came back and expected it to be well over, and there were like 13 minutes left in the third. was there a delay? or just a long game because of all the shoveling?
sean avery made team canada
Really glad to have the opportunity to root for the Ryans and Step. Thanks for sharing the audio Carp!
lots of shoveling…...lots
leaves’ G said the ice more slippery than he expected…..but they shoveled a lot of snow
Shoveling and switching sides. And icings. And offsides.
‘Ryan, will you play more offensively or defensively in Russia.’
“I’ll see what the coaches ask of me.’
As though he would be expected to say: “I’ll do damn well whatever I like when I get there.”
I’m just a curmudgeon, I admit it. And that was one of my new year’s resolutions. Off to a bad start. :)
The definitive piece on the USA squad.
Clean Slate between me and Man 0’War #19.
Curmudgeon is putting it mildly.
Machiavellian Vlad the Impaler Rasputinish Vulagarian. Help me, Jesus.
Or Rhonda, whoever is available
And now over to Taylor Pyatt and Michael Del Zotto –
“This one’s for you, Taylor…”
Michael: “Pyatt is 32 and has no upside. As for myself, I’m just a baby with a world of promise and I just might come back to startle some of yiz.”
The Odd Couple rules!
‘It took me twenty minutes to figure out that FU meant Felix Unger!”
Wow! These guys were not told they made it ahead of the TV production, and only found out when their names were announced? Amazing. Thanks for the audio CARP>
Great movie “The Fortune Cookie”
Wow! These guys were not told they made it ahead of the TV production
I doubt that.
McDonagh is only deserving Ranger on team.
So you think Cally lied when he was asked? Why lie about it?
They were asked to say such.
I was wondering about the guys playing in the game (Van Riemsdyk, Kessel, Howard) and if they knew. I assume they did, right? Hell, we all knew Howard was on the team a few days ago.
Kenneth playing Nostradamus for his local community theater.
Happy 2014 Heads!
It’s a farce if The Kreider didn’t make it.
So now Torts, AV and Bylsma hate him :)
and me :) :)
Callahan and Stepan. Lets be honest.
Did the selection committee scout the Rangers over the course of the 1st half?
Now, if Nash makes Canada, I eat my hat.
And Carp too. :)
remember four years ago when they picked Drury, after we had all watched him deteriorate?
Drury. Another example of why i call it a farce.
No Bobby Ryan? Who did he piss off?
When the team struggles to score against the big boys, they’ll regret no BR.
How come Tam didn’t make Team Canada?
There is not a single player on the U.S. Olympic team who was yet born when USA won the gold medal in 1980.
Did anyone else hear Pierre say that he’d been asked by one of the linesmen to warm the balls of his whistle ?
I’d take Tam over Moe Howard.
But Moe, Larry, and Curley are on USA….nevermind
That was one cold winter – Lake Placid, 1980….
I did hear that, eddie. I did hear that.
Papa, check out the article I posted. There’s lots of information on the Bobby Ryan exclusion.
Eddie, fromrevious thread relating to whistle warming scandal.
Where is Pierre gonna put that whistle to warm it up?
January 1st, 2014 at 1:37 PM
Breaking News: Winter Classic Referees officiate game short one whistle.
RELATED breaking News: reports from Winter Classic, players on both benches report that high pitched shrieking sounds appear to be emanating from Pierre McGuire’s arse
January 1st, 2014 at 1:46 PM
Here’s one for ya – at one of the rinks my sons play at in CT, there is a banner for a team that won the Midget Major National Championship in 2005-2006, and the names of all the players are on it. On that list of names are Marc Arcobello (Yale and now Edmonton), Kevin Shattenkirk and Max Pacioretty. Now that’s a team.
Bishop over Howard…a disgrace In no Bobby Ryan. Step doesn’t deserve, Cally does on how he brings it night to night. Paul Martin ugh! And Brooks Orpick is 2 yrs past, might get exposed on the Big ice. This team goes as far as Quick takes them if healthy
“RELATED breaking News: reports from Winter Classic, players on both benches report that high pitched shrieking sounds appear to be emanating from Pierre McGuire’s arse”
How’d they distinguish them from the high pitched shrieking sounds coming from his mouth?
A little disappointed John Scott wasn’t looked at. Think the bigger ice would help his game
I know these guys are all honored to play and it cool to see them represent their countries but would rather no ranger play in Olympics so they can stay healthy and fresh for what is likely to be a down to the wire playoff race. I also recall jagr and that wet newspaper helmet they let him wear get schmised during the Olympics and was likely concussed.
If Team USA has to get something off the top shelf, they’ll wish they had John Scott.
Latona, good article.
I’m not a Brian Burke fan.
And less of a Scott Burnside fan.
Ryan should be on the roster.
John, Paul, George, and Ringo Scott didn’t make an Olympic team?
I like Brooke Burke.
John Scott is the heir to the Scott tissue fortune and he good give a good (1,000) sheets that he was not considered.
Totally agree he should be on the roster, Papa, just thought the insight was intriguing.
Too many Ryans, maybe?
Miller, Suter, Callahan, McDonagh, Kesler.
That’s five Ryans right there.
Saving Ryan’s Privates.
If these Olympic teams had no professionals (hey, the Russian amateur professional days are over) Olympic hockey would be much more fun for the fans and for the NHL players…IMHO
Putin should get some interesting information when he bugs Steps and McD’s dank hotel hooch. Good thing for all that MDZ and MZA were Prucha’d.
Glad to see Stepan make it. Surprised to see him and yet no Ryan no Dubinsky and no Okposo.
Not really sure what’s up w the D. Keith Yandle gets snubbed as does Johnson but a shell of what used to be Van Riemsdyk and Brooks orpik get the nod. Though I like having the later for toughness.
Steps is likely to see most of his minutes on PP defense. Could happen to Cally, too.
Didn’t see CABER on Team Canada. Oversight perhaps?
Would like to see War Admiral on the big ice gliding to the bench. Bring your stopwatch, clockers.
And Richards is moving like a tremendous machine.
Hi Wilber, I’m Mr. Ed
Second game- in, delayed opening as Richie is still gliding to the bench from the first game.
If brad ever won gold, the ceremony would last the next 3 Olympics, as brad skated for his medal…
And down the stretch they come…...
Norm, watching second game delay on TV at Cheers: ‘Beer Me.’
Year : 2026. And, playing Center, number 19, Gold medal winner, 2014 Olympics, Brad Richards…
“I don’t understand. What has Richard’s ever done to deserve such disrespect.”
Ron Turcotte, on the near turn, asking for a bit more from #19, but inexplicably not getting the anticipated response.
Norm likes that old war horse doesn’t he?
Put the radar gun on brad.
Norm: “Why can’t we all just get along and lose games graciously?
AV: ‘He’s just a wonderful, wonderful contributor. I couldn’t ask any more from him. Mainly because Slats told me not to.”
“Big boss told me no matter what happens don’t get hurt.”
Norm – “Richards wears an A, and skates slower than frozen mud, why is there no respect – Do you want the rangers to lose?”
“Richards is the backbone of this team.”
Good God, I love the faux, totally usuless forecheck that prevents him from having to skate back up ice with some alacrity.
Brad is a good guy, no doubt, but he could try harder.
Hags skates faster backwards.
That takes care of Richie for the moment; now on to Nasher, Santa’s favorite reindeer. Ricky, don’t lose that lumber.
‘We hear you’re leaving, that’s ok,
I thought our little wild time had just begun,
I guess you kind of scared yourself, you turn and run
But if you have a change of heart…’
Nasher plays like hims got a Steely Dan up hims rump.
:)) A Steely Dan!
Can’t Buy a Thrill
Gnash is moving like a tremendous machine
All done in blueprint blue
It sure looks good on you
If gnash were a bumper car, there’d nary be a scratch, much less a dent.
If Nash were a professional hockey player, he should play tennis.
I’d like to see the Nasher in a scratch fight on ice with Brian Boitano
I was going to say Button, but I’m not allowed to use his first name.
Coos, been in a big SD groove lately. Donald Fagen & Walter Becker, creative genius.
Tells you the chumps we’ve been playing when little Dors goes ten games without an opportunity. Someone earlier suggested getting rid of him when Cally comes back, yuk yuk. Come playoff time, when you need a cop, call a hippie.
Some of the serious suggestions found here are laughable, but not necessarily funny.
Papa, templating! Did you ever hear Fagen’s solo disc, ‘The Nightfly?’ Pretty awesome.
‘The surf was easy on the day I came to stay
On this quiet island in the bay.
I remember a line of women all in white
The laughter and the steel bands at night
Now the Americans are gone except for two
The embassy’s been hard to reach
There’s been talk and lately a bit of action after dark
Behind the big casino on the beach
The rules are changed
It’s not the same
It’s all new players in a whole new ball game
Last night I dreamed of an old lover dressed in gray
I’ve had this fever now since yesterday
Wake up darling they’re knocking the Colonel’s standing in the sun
With his stupid face the glasses and the gun
I know what happens
I read the book
I believe I just got the goodbye look.
I believe I just got the goodbye look.
Won’t you pour me a Cuban breeze Gretchen?’
Hard to believe Sather hasn’t added an ounce of muscle to this team when half the group plays tentative, head ducking hockey.
Kooz said behind
I did? I must have misspoken myself.
Miller deserves to stay.
Miller will take a hit to make a play. Like the kid.
Harry Reams Van Dyke had a nice goal in the winter classic today…
He the guy who painted all those porno pictures?
When Cally comes up, Richards or Boyle should sit…...And Boyle hasn’t been horrible.
Harry was hung
Richie should probably play just power play and get the hell off the ice with alacrity when possession changes, if at all possible.
I kind of like our fourth line except they have to occasionally put the biscuit in the clown’s mouth.
Van Dyke was Phlegmish, meaning he had a lot of spittle and Phlegm, I guess. Also a (An)Twerp. He was not hung, but his pictures were.
Nathan Hale was hung.
The Rangers and Panthers lacked toughness Tuesday night. Toughness. Muscle. If readers here put together a hockey roster, their team would be as unsuccessful as the Maple Leafs.
Your frequency is too frequent, Kenneth. Join the Navy and see the world. Your aircraft carriers would have no escorts and no planes. Bon voyage.
Brassard will lead this team vs Washington in rd. 1
Washington. First in War, First in Peace; hopefully last in the Metro Division.
John Lennon documentary now on. eddie, do you remember that eerie Dakota on CPW? It’s been all whitewashed and is not nearly so scary looking. They filmed ‘Rosemary’s Baby’ there.
I can’t wait! Our boys will still be in blue!
We’re gonna win the Olympic gold medal! I wanna hear Pozys cheers for our team usa!! No Negys!!
Remember to always Cheer! Cheer! Cheer!
Never Boo Boo Boo!!!
coos and E3
reading your posts is like reading Shakespeare.
Happy New Year!
What channel was the John Lennon special on?
did he play for the Blackhawks?
Lucia still hates me
#7 was pretty bad late game for USA. Had two great looks from the point blocked, then turned it over for the ENG by Buchnevich or however you spell it. Didn’t notice Skjei much in the third period, but USA was trailing. CARP, your boy Santini took the penalty which led to Russia’s GWG.
I agree with whomever said that The Kreider not being included is a farce …
It’s a two-bit, dogs-breakfast of a farce.
I’m rooting for Team Iceland to beat the Mighty Ducks and win gold.
What Fowler makes the Olympics and not McIlrath?
It’s a Farce that’s for sure. I’m still scratching my head on this one.
Wait USA is eliminated? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
It’s really disappointing to play so well against the second tier teams and then drop two straight to Canada and Russia
At least we have our freedom
When the Sioux Head Coach coached the team they won GOLD! But when the Gopher coached the team they won – NOTHING!
I’m actually in a Twitter battle with some moron who loves God and Guns. OOPS. Back me up.
Manny doesn’t everyone love God?
I thought every home had a gun in it :)
Where’s Doodie this morning?
Fowler won’t see the ice save for PP time unless the US wants to give up a goal on his shifts (OPG?) against good teams.
Big takeaway from good (but long) ESPN article Latona posted is Burke is a major horses’ arse and how much they ‘love’ Orpik and Martin. Thinking McD will be revelation in Sochi for the unknowing.
Step made the team only because he plays center and probably won’t get a lot of ice time with 25 on roster – personally would have taken Bobby Ryan.
Some excerpts from article sounded familiar to scene in ‘Moneyball’ with scouts discussing ‘intangibles’ like players’ girlfriends.
NO Politics. But this guy is a horrifying style person. I promise.
I find this interesting that 20 out of the 25 players on the USA squad played in college before they went Pro. (TWO – Sioux make the squad :)
Ryan Miller/Buffalo Sabres – Michigan State
Jonathan Quick/Los Angeles Kings – UMass Amherst
Jimmy Howard/Detroit Red Wings – Maine
Brooks Orpik/Pittsburgh Penguins – Boston College
Ryan Suter/Minnesota Wild – Wisconsin
John Carlson/Washington Capitals – London Knights
Justin Faulk/Carolina Hurricanes – Minnesota Duluth
Cam Fowler/Anaheim Ducks – Windsor Spitfires
Paul Martin/Pittsburgh Penguins – Minnesota
Ryan McDonagh/New York Rangers – Wisconsin
Kevin Shattenkirk/St. Louis Blues – Boston University
David Backes/St. Louis Blues – Minnesota State
Dustin Brown/Los Angeles Kings—Guelph Storm
Ryan Callahan/New York Rangers—Guelph Storm
Patrick Kane/Chicago Blackhawks— London Knights
Ryan Kesler/Vancouver Canucks – Ohio State
Phil Kessel/Toronto Maple Leafs – Minnesota
Zach Parise/Minnesota Wild – North Dakota
Joe Pavelski/San Jose Sharks – Wisconsin
Paul Stastny/Colorado Avalanche – Denver
T.J. Oshie/St. Louis Blues – North Dakota
Max Pacioretty/Montreal Canadiens – Michigan
Derek Stepan/New York Rangers – Wisconsin
James van Riemsdyk/Toronto Maple Leafs – New Hampshire
Blake Wheeler/Winnipeg Jets – Minnesota
I would have put Yandle over Orpic.
Bobby Ryan over Stepan.
Bishop over Howard.
But that’s just me. Anyone else?
Interesting ratio, Sioux, but what is the overall percentage of American-born NHL players who play college hockey? It’s very high, isn’t it? It seems like Americans who go the juniors route are a distinct minority these days.
2 Female Fighting Sioux made the 2014 USA womens team.
I’m thinking we will have more medals on display at the Ralph this year.
Speaking of, this is a really cool picture of the Tampa Bay Lightnings wearing their college/junior hockey jerseys:
Whoops 3 women made the USA team from the Sioux. I forgot Gigi Marvin made the final cut. Jocelyne & Monique Lamoureau will steal the show this year. Their numbers in college are ridiculous.
I totally forgot/didn’t know St. Louis went to UVM
My fiance’s cousin is a hockey player. He’s playing juniors in the USA right now and is signed to play Junior A in Canada next year. He wants to play major junior in Canada but I think he’s making a big mistake by not playing college hockey. He was talking to a Carolina Hurricanes scout and they think he could be a 5th-6th round draft pick in 2015, which is his draft year. I think he’s going to be a late bloomer, though, and college hockey is perfect for late bloomers. Major junior would be a mistake IMO
Major junior = no NCAA eligibility
Big mistake in my opinion
I always thought it was 50/50 Rob. The Sioux seem to lose 1 or 2 players every year to juniors.
Miller bolted at the LAST minute. Stefan Matteau pulled out after committing to the Sioux. And we lost the top Canadian prospect this year.
So it happens. Signing letters of intent really aren’t worth the paper they are printed on. Until they show up.
Miller made a decision to get a bigger check sooner, and with all the games he’s played in the NHL. It worked for him, he has made it to the NHL quicker than say KRISTO or KREIDER. And his gap contract looks to be at least a year ahead had he played in college. So there’s a million reasons to choose the path he did.
I think college hockey’s nice because if the hockey thing doesn’t work out you have a degree to fall back on, but maybe I’m biased
given the small percentage of Junior hockey players who make NHL rosters, he should go play college, have fun , get a degree IMHO
Sioux I like having Orpik there (if healthy) for a little toughness. I certainly would have had Yandle on the team before Paul Martin or Van Riemsdyk who looked like his career was over last season.
Rob, so many top colleges to choose from. And if you don’t make it to the NHL, like MOST don’t, you develop a world of alumni contacts. Plus, your checkbook may be lighter, but you’ll at least be able to balance it.
And as far as Bishop is concerned, to me, he’s the kind of goalie that could go on a tear the way Miller did in ‘10. How you don’t have him on the team is beyond me.
Too ironic that the marquee NHL winter classic match up ended in shoot out. Butt-man must have been sooo happy.
Traffic jam from snow had many missing opening faceoff as it took 2.5 or more hours to travel from Detroit area; usually about an hour.
Trust me, we had a long discussion about it over the holidays. He’s not the scholarly type at all, so I think that’s a big strike against college for him, but these schools help the athletes out. Just pick an easy major and you’ll be set.
Not surprised about the low showing for team USA Jr. It wasn’t the best squad we’ve sent.
Speaking of Team USA, the decisions to leave out Ryan and Yandle are horrible, horrible mistakes.
I’ve read the Burnside article about the selection process. I get the worry on Ryan being too one dimensional. But what if it’s one of the top 4 wings that goes down? Nobody on the team is going to replace a Patrick Kane or Phil Kessel’s scoring ability. The only guy who could come close is Bobby Ryan. Just a mistake not to include a guy when all he does is score goals.
As for Yandle, I just don’t understand how you leave out such an elite puck moving defenseman, even as your 8th guy.
I get why Stepan is there, in terms of center depth, but I feel like they could’ve left Stepan and Oshie home and brought Dubinsky instead.
That goes double since Stepan isn’t exactly at the top of his game this year.
Looks like NYR prospect Buchnevich has a litte Avery style to him…
Can’t wait till Kristo gets his chance next year.
I still think he is a better goal scorer than Miller. Miller hasn’t given us a lot of points for the games he’s played.
Doodie you were right. No Sioux on the team = NO GOLD!
Doodie – Watch Parise & Oshie steal the show, and bring home the Gold!
Overall I can’t complaint too much about the US roster. There really aren’t that many open spots. And while I think Orpik is a huge mistake, when two of the USA coaches are Bylsma and Granato, I figured from day one Orpik and Martin would be locks on this team.
I’m just glad they had the good sense to leave out the Johnsons.
Dubi’s buried in ‘lumbus.
Did any player from CBJ make the Olympics this year?
Bobrovsky will play for Russia,
And if he hadn’t broken his collarbone, Gaborik would have played for Slovakia.
Anismov and Tyutin will play for Russia also.
Cananda is still the team to beat. Parise almost won the game for the USA last time, here’s hoping the USA has the hottest goalie in net at the time.
Maybe even Nikitin, but he’s gonna be borderline. I imagine thta even though he is better than some KHL defensemen, Russia will still want to have a couple of their own on the team.
here’s hoping the USA has the hottest goalie in net at the time
Anybody else a little nervous about USA’s supposed goaltending strength? If we get playoff Quick we should be okay, but regular season Quick? As of right now you have to think maybe Miller is the number one guy, right? He’s looked pretty good behind a terrible Buffalo team
I’m thinking Bishop has been the best USA goaltender this year, but he isn’t even on the team.
Not only were Orpik and Martin locks, but they were projected to be in the top 4.
Immobile d-men must be the focus…
that article on ESPN was very interesting. I found it interesting that someone had said something along the lines of “if he played in NY would we even be discussing not bringing him”
that being said.
I agree that Stepan doesn’t particularly deserve being there based on his play this season. But I suppose he is one of the USA’s top 4 centers and that is worth something.
I think from a balanced player standpoint Dubinsky is a better player RIGHT NOW (current play) but i don’t think his game will hold up well on the bigger surface.
Because Bishop has all of three months of a track record, and the one big game tournament he was in, he was terrible (2013 World Championships)
Stepan is the 5th center. Stastny will be ahead of him.
I think Orpik is considered the 7th defenseman as of right now. I think the pairings that they have in mind are Suter-Martin, McDonagh-Shattenkirk, Fowler-Faulk.
A little off topic, but Lundqvist’s Stadium Series mask has been leaked and it’s pretty awesome: http://www.nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/january/is-this-henrik-lundqvist-s-yankee-stadium-mask.html
did i misread the article? I thought stepan was ahead of stastny on the depth chart?
RE: winter classic going to a shootout. They sure as hell tried to get it to one in 2012. first day of 2014 and Gary B’s year was already made. ps- just got an email that the NHL is fining me $25,000 for posting this…go figure.
Doodie didn’t Martin break his leg this season? And we all know Orpik took a nice shot. I guess Yandle is that big a defensive liability..
Henrik has auctioned- off game used masks for charity and they have drawn a huge number. However, if I got used to a mask, I doubt I’d be changing it game to game.
According to that Zach Parise commercial about the importance of playing college level hockey a lot of NHL Players (over 30%) play in college. Subtract the foreign born players and the kids that go pro at 18 and I bet it’s a very high percentage of North American born players playing in college.
That’s what I’m basing my assumption on, Manny. That, and anecdotally that whenever I look up an American hockey player he almost always played college hockey.
I’m happy that Paul Martin is on the squad. Orpik is another fine addition. Dude can hit people in open ice. That’s fun, right?
Good morning, Carp!
Good morning, Sally!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When does Canada name their olympic roster?
I think their roster is just all of Canada with a few inactives due to old age.
7th, I believe
‘Bought you a brand new Mustang,
A nineteen sixty-five, h’uh!’
currently 17 degrees and with the wind coming in off the lake feels more like -5. Gonna try my hand at insulating windows in a bit.
Just get EZ-Cheese and spray that all in between the screens and the glass.
LOL, “Here is the roster for Team Canada….ALL of Canada!”
I really wanted a Dubinsky USA shirtsey. Thanks for nothing, Poile.
The Manitoba Museum is reporting Winnipeg’s temperatures on Tuesday were actually colder than the surface of Mars. -53 C.
@boring_as_heck ok it’s time to put together the US Olympic team. get the guy who used to run the Atlanta Thrashers. that was a good team, right.
I finished the ez cheese for breakfast, Manny. All I have left in the house is half a bottle of Korbel and some nutella
Canada should use Sather.
This is my favorite Resolution so far. Whoever runs the Mars Curiosity Rover Twitter feed is funny:
@MarsCuriosity Goals for 2014: Finish driving to Mars’ Mount Sharp & do all the science I can. #resolutions pic.twitter.com/M48IbqpJSQ
That could work, James. The Champagne, if still carbonated, should help the Nutella expand. I would recommend whisking them together at a brisk pace and then brushing it into the screen.
Going to college-universities are for losers.
Strange when Canadian hockey players who never got out of high school express themselves better than 75% of our college graduated athletes. Sup wit dat?
Coos it’s been really cold out here.
Woke up to -20 without the wind.
To cold to build the igloo in one day :)
James, players that are injured before the start of the tournament can be replaced. But they are the only players than can be replaced. So, for instance, if Martin’s leg is still broken, the US will be able to add another defender.
Likewise for Canada when Stamkos is named to the team. If he is unable to play before the Olympics, they will be allowed to replacement.
PITT claimed Pyatt!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Pyatt goes from being scratched for a horrendous team to being on the best team in the East and getting to meet Crosby
Coos Big Buff would be one of those players :)
ZENON KONOPKA IS ON WAIVERS
Manny watch Pyatt get his name on the Stanley Cup this year.
Manny, even Macgyver would be impressed.
Althought I couldn’t waste nutella. I should probably food shop before the 49 feet of alleged snow hit. love me a personal day.
Scratch a million and a half off the books.
Pyatt claimed by Pens.
Game winner tomorrow! Book it!
Rangers should claim Zenon Konopka. Theres a 4th liner that can win a faceoff and hit you in the mouth.
Pyatt was waived? color me late to the party. There’s one off of my “good bye slacker” list for 2014..who’s next?
It is CRUCIAL that the Rangers put in a claim on Zenon Konopka who is EXACTLY the type of player this team desperately needs.
Konopka > Dom Moore
Funny. The know it all fans here that expect Pyatt to score 50 goals on the 4th line think he’s worthless, but an elite team like the Pens waste no time picking him up.
Solid 4th liner. Unfortunately half our team are 4th liners.
Watch Pyatt will score on the Rangers on Friday.
It could happen.
The Penguins can play any style of hockey better than almost any team in the East. The problem is, the Rangers, under Vigneault, want to play only one dumb style of hockey that Pyatt isn’t suited for.
We have too many fourth liners. No thanks on Konopka. I don’t think you’ve guys watched him lately. This is not the same guy he was a couple of years ago. He’s worn down, a lot.
“Zenon Konopka is also an entrepreneur and owner of a company Prime Wine Products and partners with local charities to help children’s programs. He was once part-owner in an Ottawa bar-restaurant called “Stout Bros.” and has run the “Zenon Konopka Hockey Academy” in Ottawa since 2007.
He also has a pet rabbit, Hoppy, and maintains a Twitter account for his pet, who has relocated with him since 2006. Konopka told Fox Sports North that he never wanted a rabbit as a child, but a friend suggested one as Konopka is allergic to cats and dogs. “I can’t help that I fell in love with the little guy … the guy’s pretty cool. He just chills around, has his litter box, does his business there and he’s pretty soothing to come home to.”
Rupp is healthy now for MN, so they don’t have room for Konopka.
He would make our 4th line one of the toughest to play against. A solid 4th liner, that can win a face off. If we need grit he’s your guy.
I doubt he gets to the Rangers before he’s claimed.
We already have a 4th line center who is a great faceoff guy
Konopka may not be the player he was 3 seasons ago, but he’s still a better grit option than much of the current NYR roster.
my slacker list now consists of a former Ranger, 3 guys that are playing much better since being put on my list, Stralman and Del Zotto..
I’m not sure that he is, to be honest with you. Guy is really washed up. And he is actually even less likely to score than anybody else on our roster, as impossible as that may seem.
You talking about Konopka, Doodie? was just about to ask if he can skate anymore..
Guy is still money at the dot, but otherwise he’s toast.
Pyatt’s gone 22 games = 1 assist for the Rangers.
Can’t say I’m going to miss him. But he will add some depth to Pitts 4th line I’m sure.
Konopka sells wine to children? No thanks.
If that’s the case, then they should steer clear. We already went through this with Rupp and Asham.
That’s illegal I think, The Doctor.
Pyatt is the next Kevin Stevens. Crosby will bank about 40 off of him in front of the net.
If only Kristo got Pyatt’s games.
Konopka really diminished when he went to Minn. He was money on the Senators/Islanders/Lightning. No doubt he’s a journeyman but if the style of play fits his game then I think he can jump back to form.
Well, our style is “not scoring a lot of goals” and that seems to be Konopka’s too, so maybe that jumps his form back?
LOL, Mister D
I wonder where Callahan plays now that he’s apparently back..
I also wonder how many games he plays before the next Wrist, Ankle, hand, knee or shoulder injury occurs..
Seriously: if you could have Dom Moore or Zenon Konopka, you really take Dom. Moore?
When do we start spending wasting this new found capspace?
I’d take a shot on Konopka. Seems harmless enough.
Not like we’re giving up a 5th round pick for him like Slats did for John Scott.
Manny, instead of spending wasting it on 4th liners I’d rather they saved some money up to spend waste on a disappointment of a guy with top 6 potential (when not playing in NY)
Nash Stepan Richards
Kreider Brassard Zuccarello
Hagelin Miller Callahan
Bickel Boyle Dorsett
How’s Ryan Clowe working out for NJ btw???
Clowe just returned from his third concussion. Completely forgot aboot the guy.
Can’t wait to see the players the Sharks draft with their two 2nd round picks and 3rd round pick.
You guys are forgetting to put Konopka in your line combos.
Gabryel Paquin-Boudreau is the kid they drafted in the 2dn round.
He’ll score his first goal at the Garden.
There is really no reason to not claim Konopka. It’s a win-win
Konopka changes very little for the team, save the cap space in case you need it to take on salary in a trade.
You’re just worried that he will take time away from Brassard.
Just spoke with somebody in NYR org. ... FWIW, they think Konopka stinks and that’s before his skills eroded. that’s why they didn’t sign him when he was a UFA.
It’s not like Konopka’s going to play every game. but he sure would come in handy against the Bruins.
His grit, could go along way on a team that doesn’t have much.
If we need scoring, that’s easy just call up Kristo.
He is older than Brassard, and that’s like 70% of the way to ice time here, so I guess so, huh?
Wow. Thanks, Carp. Guess that’s pretty honest. I really think he would be a nice addition to the bottom grit guys. But whatever.
Pyatt sucked when he was here. could care less about his scoring, but he was a very very slow forechecker who did not drop the mitts ONCE when he was here even though many nights he was our biggest guy on the ice save for Olive Boyle, another big pacifist
That’s a weird take from the FO on Konopka. The guy fought and did one other thing, which is better than the revolving door we had of guys who fought and didn’t do one other thing.
I think the Konopka of two-plus years ago would be a good addition.
Absolutely, Carp. Also, keeping John Mitchell would have been a similar good idea.
Also, I don’t mean to sound like I’m headed for one of the Chase Sky Bridges at the Newly Renovated Madison Square Garden, but with Biron and now Pyatt gone, our sexy eye quotient is plummeting. Reaching disaster levels of UFA Girardi isn’t here on opening night next year.
Carp – well that settles that!
I wonder who they are looking to trade for?
According to Katie Strang, NYR and Girardi’s reps had contract discussions this week.
John Mitchell was detested by the only-goals-matter set. He’s a very good fourth-line center.
This team has gotten very, very ugly and very, very not stylish.
@NYRangersZone Rangers have not met with Anton Stralman’s agent yet to discuss a contract extension #NYR
Manny – That’s why the King is the poster boy for the Rangers :)
I think the “only goals matter” mindset is a condition that afflicts 98% of NHL fans. 99% of Rangers fans.
hope @NYRangersZone credited Katie for that info.
Mitchell would be a very good 3rd line center here!
Manny – do you think McIlrath > Stralman.
Of course he didn’t, Carp. There are bloggers, not reporters or Journalists like you and Katie and Brooks and Leonard, etc.
Are all the Olympic teams posted?
not all announced yet, Sioux.
Always liked Mitchell.
Won that faceoff on the PP that led to Stahl’s game winner in OT, game 5.
I very much dislike Anton Stralman for many reasons. He’s a terrible decision maker which often makes him caught in between resulting in him getting beat. I think a lot of that is covered up by him playing heavy minutes with Staal. Further, he’s SOFT. I don’t mean “he won’t fight” or something. He only hip checks, which, when he misses leaves him completely exposed and beaten. He never protects the crease or makes any attempt to protect Hank, especially after the whistle. Finally, as Conor Allen is proving (and hopefully will continue to prove) you can get what he brings to the table for MUCH less.
Obviously I exaggerate my hatred for him because it’s funny. But that’s my honest opinion. We could do much worse, but he should be playing on the 3rd pairing.
Oh. And he should NEVER be on the PK. Especially being the last man low of a Diamond PK where the Solo Defenseman has multiple coverage responsibilities and needs to be physical first.
Canada’s to be announced Jan. 7.
I read in the paper that the rest of the rosters will be announced Tuesday.
Olympic rosters, that is.
Carp – with Pyatt off the books now. How much do the Rangers have to work with to sign another player?
They must have someone in mind don’t you think?
If only our Olympic forwards stayed healthy and/or produced like Olympic forwards…
$2.6M in free cap space, Sioux.
Isn’t Allen only making $300k less than Stralman?
Almost enough for Steve Ott!
Manny would you trade Nash for Bobby Ryan?
Don’t know if they can actually find someone worth signing at this point, Sioux. I’m sure they’re investigating trades (esp. for Del Zotto). They probably have about $2.6M under the current cap.
Allen’s hit is $925K, Gravy. I think Stralman is $1.7M.
Sioux: It’s probable. I don’t think Nash is going to score 35+ anymore so I think he’s a similar player to Bobby Ryan and will put up around 30. Ryan’s cap hit is $5.1M and he doesn’t have any injury concerns.
Thought I saw $1.3m for Allen. Maybe performance bonuses?
Here’s the drawback to claiming Konopka: You burn a contract. We just cleared one with Pyatt. Why waste it already?
We were at 48, I think, with Pyatt. I like having some flexibility late in the season to make an NCAA pickup or two.
Allen is 925k.
What about Dustin Penner.
He has 24 points so far this year, and the ducks are benching him.
You would think they would listen to a trade offer?
He would be tied with Kreider with 10 goals.
We need size and scoring?
Do you trade Del Zotto for him?
The problem with trading Del Zotto is the return. We desperately need three things:
1) Top 6 forward
2) Right handed defensemen
3) Depth players that actually can occasionally score goals
Even at his peak, MDZ probably was never going to get us #1. #2 is tough because the quality of defender MDZ will return for us is just as bad as MDZ, so how does that trade help? And #3 is a possibility, but to be honest, I’d rather sit on MDZ and pray for a rebound than trade him for a depth player in a non-cup contention year.
He might have gotten a heavy signing bonus or something as an undrafted guy….
Dustin Penner is awesome. Problem is, he’s notoriously good during the playoffs and notoriously mediocre during the regular season. Maybe picking him up would give him a burst of energy or something. I think he loves NYC. He’s a spotlight kind of guy. Very funny.
Penner has 10 goals because he played a good bit this year with Perry and Getzlaf.
We don’t need any more mediocre wingers. We have too many as it is.
What we need is Evander Kane.
trade El Zotto for Penner in a heartbeat; this guy makes only $2M, put him on a 3rd line with Miller and Dorsett; guys who can bang and skate.
Our bottom 6 cannot score, as in, cannot score. we get some production out of 3rd line with a move like Penner, Cally comes back to add some scoring punch to top 6 and Step and Nash move closer to production levels of last 2 yrs and we are looking much, much better.
I really think a Del Zotto for Penner trade is pretty much the borderline for me. I would be inclined to say yes because I don’t know what in the world we can get for Del Zotto right now and Penner is probably the best we can get. So pull the trigger. But on the other hand, Penner is kind of more redundancy and inconsistency on the roster.
HAHA, Penner is a guy who can skate. That’s hilarious. Thanks, I needed that laugh.
Doodie is in mid season form today!
Well, I think the real issue is whether the team acknowledges that Nash is not scoring enough to be on the first two lines. Because when Callahan comes back, he should be on a top 2 RW spot, and MZA has been our best forward this season. So I just don’t see where Nash fits in except on the third line.
So a guy with a rep for coasting on a team that doesn’t have the talent to coast into the playoffs? I’m … not sold.
Would you trade Nash and, if yes, what do you think we could get for him?
I would not trade Nash. His potential is worth much more than we could get in return.
What would you propose to do to get this team a legit scoring winger in the top 6?
In retrospect, you should read the post again; put him on a line with guys who can skate and bang re Miller and Double D
Wait for The Kreider to keep developing and hope Nash returns to form.
This year’s team has no shot.
That’s fair. I really don’t think they are going to “make some noise” this season. So why not just ride it out?
retrospect = hindsight?
OK, I’ll revisit: Dorsett as a third liner means that our team is in deep, deep trouble. Also, who is going to feed Penner the puck?
It would be really nice if JT Miller could center the 3rd line allowing Stepan to Center the first and Brassard to Center the second line wtih Richards moving to LW.
Question for all you experts out there: If Sather lets Cally and Girardi go all the way to free agency, what are the chances they remain Rangers? He has proven adept at mismanaging these things in the past. As it is, his waiting this long to do anything with him will already cost the Rangers big bucks.
Richards has been LW for last bunch of games, no?
Miller should be playing 3rd line center; good for a penalty a game but that is OK as he is getting seasoning in a season where we are going nowhere unless they upgrade the back line
I’m OK with Miller centering third, and like Richards at LW. The problem then is that Nash has to play on 3rd line. Which I’m fine with, but I doubt ever happens.
Agreed. I really want that lineup down the middle to remain.
Good riddance Pyatt. Don’t let the door hit you.
I’m personally fine with those lines. AV loves to roll 4 or whatever he thinks he does, so Nash will get plenty of ice time (he’s down to about 16 min. per game). The Kreider has to be able to handle 1st line LW or else this team is in trouble. Stepan can cover for him defensively and Zucc can distribute. So roll ‘em.
The problem with those lines is that I don’t like Brassard as a 2nd line center, I don’t like Richards as a second line wing, and I don’t like those two guys together.
Also, I forgot Pouliot, who has been really good lately.
I doubt Pyatt will let the door hit him. He will jet out of the land of being Prucha’d to playing for the best team in the Conf. with the best player in the world. I’m sure he’s elated.
Penner is not there to ‘score’ but to bang, but he can score, heck would put him with Step and Nash to have someone play the walls when they are on the ice and move Kreider to play with Brass and Cally.
Net-Net; this team is a muddled mass of mediocrity
The thing about Pouliot is that he will eventually play himself back to the press box. So I don’t worry about where he’s slotted.
Doodie – You are taking the Power Play Performance of Pouliot out of the lineup?
Power Play’s on fire with his hands and size in front of the goalie.
I would trade Pouliot while his stock is high!
Pyatt woke up this morning and learned he won the lottery :)
From worst to first in a phone call.
Happy new year, ducky! Hope you see this!
So if they are shopping Del Zotto.
Who do you trade for Yakapov or Penner?
Yup. Poo has been great recently, but color me skeptical that halfway through year 7 and team 5 (or whatever it is) is when everything clicks. Expendable as always.
(And I trade Nash if I get someone I like as a long term roster piece. Get away from that contract.)
I don’t want Yakapov.
I’d take Yakupov. Especially if the cost was just Del Z. That guy is a special talent. Eakins just has no clue how to use him.
He also strikes me as being different than your Zherdevs and Frolovs, too.
Of course, Edmonton needs defensive defensemen, not another sieve like MDZ.
If I could get Yakapov for Del Zotto I might do it based purely on the potential upside and the belief that Vigneault’s stupid system would showcase his European skill better. But I doubt that’s even remotely a possibility.
...It is so byfuglien funny…
But Edmonton is also pretty stupid.
Considering MotZ has become a 6th/7th D-man on this team, there shouldn’t be much hesitation to trade him for anyone that can sniff the top 9.
Konopka was fined for his verbal abuse of New York forward Brian Boyle — while Boyle was conducting a live television interview during warmups with the MSG Network.
Sillier every passing day, isn’t it?
Remember when they almost traded Prucha for Seabrook?
Seriously, we could have won the Cup in 2012 if we had made that deal.
Seabrook is a beast.
Guess AV has decided to give up the neutral zone completely except for fourth line. Torts scratching his head.
Seabrook is a Pisces.
Seabrook was born on Hitler’s birthday.
Which makes him not a pisces I think….
He is an Aries according to the chart. Which is weird because Hitler loved Aryan’s (even though he himself wasn’t one).
Mike Trout is a Pisces.
Who comes out when Cally comes back?
I’m a pisces.
I bet its Hags. Seems like he’s next in line to learn a lesson by watching.
If Miller was coming out they would have sent him down instead of Waiving Pyatt.
Just tuning in. Pyatt will score a few big goals come playoff time. No doubt about it.
No Penner please
Yes to konopka.
Trade del zaster for 5th rounder.
Yakupov in a sec for del zaster.
All the Sharks are Pisces.
We have Konopka in Hartford. They call him Asham.
No Penner at $2M on 3rd line; his 10 goals would be tied with team lead
The guy who gets no shifts in OT likely sits. AV hates The Kreider
I’m a pisces
If AV is worried about Kreider’s possible D lapses in OT, how does he play Richie? If one of those 2 had to go, I sure know whom I would choose.
Carps are Pisces.
The Sedins are Geminis.
The doctor said I should be drinking more whiskey. Also, I’m calling myself “the doctor” now.
Seabrook could very well be an Aquarius.
With more time to reflect on Team USA’s Olympic selections…........I am mostly fine with the players selected. I am not fine with the way these ego maniacal tools conducted the process. The players who were not selected deserved a phone call with an explanation before the announcement. Instead, they get to read why they were not selected in the USA Today or ESPN.com. These “executives” were the best we have to offer? They are an embarrassment.
Personally, I don’t drink anything stronger than Pop. But Pop drank just about anything he could get his hands on.
Pyatt being sent down is catamytholos error on Sister’s part. He could have been an instrumentuous part of a trade for E. Kane. Now he will come back to hurt them as a part of a dynamical Penguin team.
i’m born on Carp’s B-day since he is older.
Dang you, auto fill! Sather is not as sister! Yet.
Sounds Greek to me.
I’m a little bit surprised by NO Bobby Ryan. He is 18-18 this year.
When you look at Cally at 7-6 for 13 pts in 24 games.
Nothing against our captain, but he’s been injured enough, to almost wonder if he was going to make the list.
Ryan scores A lot of goals. Thoughts?
I give up.
My guess is that Cally, a penalty killing force and a tireless worker was also judged on his experience, comparative leadership, and sobriety.
LOL Coos. Really Ryan has that problem?
:) No idea, Sioux. Using ‘sobriety’ in a non-alcoholic way.
Sioux—If they think that they have enough goal scoring, or that Blake Wheeler will replace Ryan’s goals, I think they are wrong. These guys will be out early because they cannot put the puck in the net, unless the defensemen goal wild scoring goals.
Nice to see Oshie on the team. That made my day!!!
“We have Konopka in Hartford. They call him Asham.”
No, Konopka at least is really good at faceoffs.
And I think undoubtedly that Miller is the one who sits upon Callahan’s return. Hagelin’s speed is too important to our lineup to sit him, and everybody else (save Richards at even strength and Nash everywhere) has been playing pretty well lately.
On the big ice, McD could be a real offensive package if he doesn’t die of a heart attack first. :)
Admit that Konopka does have a faceoff rep, or did.
I’d rather Ryan on the team than Oshie, Wheeler, and Pacioretty.
Tuff list to make some cuts.
Just think of the chatter when Canada air’s their team.
With or without Stamkos?
Still does. 65% on the season.
With Stamkos. If he’s injured they can replace him.
That’s a tough list to cut one from Doodie.
It’s also Yzerman’s franchise player. He can’t risk alienating him like that.
If you are born in Moscow, Iowa, do you have the option of playing for Russia?
While Stamkos should definitely be on the team if healthy, if Yzerman is worried about alienating players on his NHL squad, Hockey Canada should have picked a different GM.
But, Zenon Konopka is a pretty good hockey name. Along the lines of Moe Mantha.
The Rangers already have the poor man’s Zenon Kenopka. Brian Boyle. Shall we continue stacking 4th line ceiling players?
Moe Mantha sounds like a Japanese horror movie. Zenon Konopka sounds like a kid Superman grew up with on Krypton.
NYR Leading Scorers @ Even strength in Dec:
Zucc: 5,2 (-6)
Nash; 3,3 (-3)
Mr Ed: 1,5 (-6)
Girardi: 2,3 (-2)
Step: 1,4 (-3)
Pullout: 1,3 (-1)
Hags: 4,0 (-4)
McD: 0,4 (-4)
Kreider: 2,1 (+2)
Brass: 0,2 (-6)
rather have Ryan than Steph on my team
The guy who replaces Richie when he glides off during the opponents’ rush gets stuck with his minus.
Wheeler, Oshie, Callahan are all RW.
Wheeler is the closest one to have Ryans stats, the others not so much.
Just saying it would have been nice to be a fly on the wall, to listen to this discussion on cutting Bobby Ryan.
Actually, I don’t think Canada’s forward corps is that tough to decide. I think 10 of the 12 forward spots are really easy, and it’s just picking 4 guys out of 6 for the end.
Definites (in the order that they come to my head): Crosby, Stamkos, St. Louis, Toews, Duchene, Bergeron, Getzlaf, Perry, Tavares, and Giroux. Maybe someone quibbles with Duchene, but I think he’s amazing.
Then you pick 4 out of Thornton, Couture, Benn, and Hall.
I probably go Couture and Hall because they are natural wingers, Thornton is super redundant on this team and a step slow, and Benn is two steps slow.
But Steps a Center.
Manny, Everything Dies just came on the shuffle.
Benn having a career year.
Sorry, left out the two other extra guys in Sharp and Seguin.
exactly Sioux. I think Stepan is the worst player on the team (other than Oshie, seriously I don’t get why he’s on the team at all), but if you leave off Stepan you’re only bringing four centers. That’s a disaster if one goes down.
Benn looks like what Nash is supposed to look like.
The Day of Wrath
There are no quibbles with Duchene. Except that he probably needs to add an “S” to his name somewhere.
Duchene has it right. No need to add a silent letter.
Oshie’s their as a power forward. He does everything.
I would take Ryan > Oshie > Callahan. This year.
As a Right Wing.
Sioux, you’re crazy. Oshie has never scored 20 goals, and he’s not on pace to do so this year, either. Callahan has played in 15 less games on a worse team and still has one more goal than Oshie does this year.
Take off the Sioux colored glasses.
I think Step is pencilled in as a definite PP Killer, occasional shifts, and a replacement in case of injury/illness.
Stepan is the 5th center. His poor faceoff percentage will keep him out of the regular lineup.
I think it should actually be Dooshane.
The best cheaters win faceoffs. The NHL will not just continuously throw people one after another out of the faceoff circle because it will irritate fans and slow the game down to a crawl, so the most chicanerous have an edge.
Enter the Boston Bruins and Patrice Bergeron, who will frequently line up Bergeron at wing and have the original centerman get intentionally tossed, allowing Bergeron to cheat. They also do this move a lot on icings, as it buys their team a few extra seconds of rest while giving them a better chance to win the faceoff.
I have a bad feeling about tomorrow’s game. I bet the Rangers get their arses handed to them in Pittsburgh. Anyone see Pavel Buchnevich taunting the USA bench after his empty netter this morning? Now…...go away or I will taunt you a second time-uh.
Dooshane totally wins. Who doesn’t want to have Doosh in their last name?
Sharp should make team Canada. IMO
Doodie that’s why I put This Year
Doodie. I will never take off the Fighting Sioux glasses.
Parise, Toews, & Oshie – Will forever be on my team, I don’t care if they are playing hockey with one leg.
Seriously some of the best hockey I’ve watched was when they played in College.
KillDrive reportedly out as NYG offensive coordinator. Bon repos.
The Devils are still the ultimate cheaters. I can usually spot one interference per shift, and a hold every other.
Even this year, Oshie still not scoring as many goals as Cally, on a better team, in more than 1.5X the games.
Chin up @TomSestito23 …... Bobby Ryan didn’t make the US Olympic team either
I love Louongo. His Emery flu tweet the other night was amazing.
He has 27 assist, have you watched any of them?
Steen has 24 goals. Oshie makes his line better, he’s a big reason they are having success.
If only the Rangers would make a deal for him.
Oshie & Cally are a lot alike. Big fan of both of them.
Did Sather wake up?
If my son plays a lot like Cally, only he’s trapped in a Zucc size body.
Luongo is hysterical on Twitter. I wonder if he and Torts get along….
But with Bobby Ryan having 18 goals & 18 Assist this year. How is he NOT on this USA team?
I went and looked, Doodie. Wow. That’s one of the funniest tweets ever:
@strombone1 30 Dec Came down with a mild case of the #emeryflu for tonight’s game….. #prevention #precaution #preservation
When a big, nasty moose effectively disrupts traffic in Banff, do you think it might make Sather think about finding a Lucic or a Chara? Great minds see the connection between seemingly disparate ideas and events.
Oshie has goals in his last two games. Without those, he had 4 on the season. FOUR in 37 games.
Honestly, I’d go down another 4 or 5 American players before getting to Oshie. Ryan, Saad, Dubinsky, and Galchenyuk for sure, then you could possibly talk me into Okposo, although I think he’d get lost on Olympic ice.
Again, Sioux and Co., the Olympic rosters are not set based on performance this season. These guy have been putting this team together for years. They are going to look at everything.
I’m shocked that Bobby Ryan isn’t on the team but there has to be a valid reason. There is, however, no valid reason why Cam Fowler is on the team.
Fowler – wins Gold Medals, and looks really good on the power play.
McBust – looks really good with a black eye :)
I don’t think Oshie had a hope to make the team. He’s just not as good as the other guys. Including Dubinsky, Galchenyuk and, of course, Bobby Ryan. I wonder about Saad. His last name makes for awesome headlines but Oshie might be a more dynamic player on the open ice.
Bobby Ryan scores a ton of goals, always has.
So it makes you wonder why they cut him.
Well…..here’s one more contract:
#NYR have agreed to terms with forward Anthony Duclair to an entry level contract.
Oshie and Cally are the same type player. But neither one of them score as much as Ryan.
Anthony Duclair: Talent Analysis
A speedy sniper, Duclair relies on his great skating ability to create chances and has dynamic offensive talent to make the most of the opportunity. With the ability to make plays at top speed and sizzling acceleration, Duclair often only needs the slimmest of openings before he’s on the attack. More of a shoot-first player, Duclair’s shot is extremely accurate, but he needs to be more consistent. Furthermore, he would be well served to round out his game and add significant strength.
Yandle is the other guy I would have put on the team, but since Orpik was going to be there no matter what and given the need for a right handed defenseman in Faulk, the only guy to come out would be Fowler. And I think I’d rather have Yandle over Fowler.
This is relatively good news for the WolfPack and possible good news for the 2015-2016 NY Rangers.
Didn’t the article say something to the effect that Poile and Co. didn’t see Ryan in the top 6, and he didn’t fit as a bottom 6 type?
Yandle > Fowler
Fowler doesn’t hold a candle to Yandle.
Yea. You want a lot of grit and fighting ability in your bottom 6 for Olympic style hockey….
Amen. Rhymin and Vibin’
Fowler can’t handle the Yandle.
If you handle the Yandle too much, you grow hair on your palms.
Well, I think Fowler being on the team is fine. It’s just given that two of the spots had to go to Orpik and Martin, I just though Yandle should be on the team ahead of Fowler.
But if I had it my way, Orpik wouldn’t have sniffed this team and Yandle would be in his spot. I’d keep Martin for his ability to play the right side (even though he’s a lefty), but he’d be my 6th guy. They seem to have him set for a first pairing role.
I’d do defense like this:
Fowler and Martin as the extras.
So now we’re back to 48 contracts. If they claim Konopka we are at 49. Pass on Konopka.
I tried to handle the Yandle but the Candle up on the Mantle burned out on my mishandled sandal oh what a scandal.
Of course, that depends on the effective date of Duclair’s contract. If it’s for next year, then we are still at 48, but I still pass.
I really like the ability to sign late blooming NCAA players. Too bad we missed out DeKayser. On the bright side, nobody but Detroit had a real chance.
Fowler is excellent, and was a good choice. Some Boneheads need to stay up and watch the Western conference a bit. he has grown into a real stud….....someplace that, sad to say, Dylan McIlrath is unlikely to reach.
Conor Allen seems to be an OK signing. Gilroy was a Del Zaster.
DeKayser had a rough game at the Winter Classic. And against the Rangers. But overall, I would have loved that kid. Could have jumped right in over Stralman
I’m not saying Fowler is bad, not by any stretch. I just think he and Yandle play similar roles, and Yandle is better than Fowler at that role.
But I think this puts to bed any Fowler vs. McIlrath comparisons. McIlrath was and remains the wrong choice at that draft.
Well, someday we will know if this was a good signing. Rangers just inked Anthony Duclair to an entry level contract.
Doodie—I remember that draft. I was away and listening on the internet….hoping that Fowler would drop to the Rangers. He did, and then I hear this Dylan McIlrath name…...a name I had not heard before. I hope the kid turns out, but I think the Rangers outsmarted themselves on that one. Not to Jessiman levels…....I hope!
I can’t think of another time in recent memory when the Rangers drafted a player who was the wrong choice, when the right choice was so obvious. Like a black and white “this guy or that guy” choice that they got so wrong.
Even with Jessiman, where the answer was “any other guy,” there was no player on the board where it was like “holy crap, how is this guy still here?” Getzlaf was probably closest in terms of css and iss rankings, but seeing as how he fell all the way to 19, I don’t think he really counts.
Love these player analyses. ‘Speedy, tough, great shot, energetic, accurate, good backchecker, takes his man, an offensive force with good defensive sensibilities. Needs more size, inconsistent, must put puck on net more, learn to play in the D zone, and too often lethargic. All in all, a valuable asset.’ ???????
Just in case youse need to know, commercial traffic not allowed on I-87 or I-84 after 5PM, and 12AM-5AM for all vehicles. I-87 closure is from Albany to NYC.
ThisYears, I know. I felt the same way. And then I realized why I hadn’t hear of McIlrath. In doing my review for the draft, I didn’t get far enough down to McIlrath because I only went like 13 deep in my research.
Has anyone seen what the Rangers are planning to do with Duclair? Is he staying in Quebec Juniors?
Duclair is a good signing. I think he could help the Whale right away.
Ryan says Burke has tried to reach out to him, and that he won’t return his call, but will answer if Burke calls him again to tell him how he feels.
They plan to drop the Du in his name, add an E and make him an Eclair. Sweet kid.
I would think he would finish his year there, and jump to the Whale after his season is done. Don’t you?
Wolfpack. what was I thinking.
In fairness, I also had Brandon Gormley ahead of McIlrath, and that does not appear to have been correct.
Yeah, I don’t think he’s even allowed to leave Junior at this point of the year until his season ends, except on emergency call up basis.
Love ya to Pisces.
I fall to Pisces
Doodie – you are losing me. Parise was a Gold medal winner at the time. How do you not pick him over Jessies Girl?
Fowler the same. He was in the top 5 Defensive men on the list. Where did McBust show up? He wasn’t even in the top 50 in North American Pre-Draft list
The UNDERTAKER! Ash to the Graveyard Man: “Heard you got your azz kicked up there, eh?”
Bobby Ryan says Burke tried to call him. After reading the Burnside article, if I were Ryan I’d tell Burke to go Buff himself.
So, Anthony Duclair, who is not a Pisces, will continue to stay in the QMJHL and score a million goals, win awards and then join the ECHL or AHL affiliate next season?
Ryan better shut up. Right now he’s one injury away from Team USA.
Yup. If I was Bobby Ryan I would demand a trade to the most American town in America where he can wear Red, White and Blue and play for the New York Rangers!
McIlrath was 17 on CSS.
In 2003, Parise was 9th, Getzlaf was 5th. But ISS had Getzlaf at 10, and Parise wasn’t even top 10.
coos, one pretournament injury. And from what I’ve read, it seems like Saad is next in line over Ryan because Saad is more versatile. It would take an injury to one of Parise, Kane, JVR, or Kessel for Ryan to make the team.
Doodie – Fowler was the choice for Defense, than Forbort -yes he was a Sioux player, but he was on the gold medal team for the USA that year. I watch the whole tournament, and him especially because he was coming up the next year. But Fowler was a best D player on the ice.
Taransenko stood out at the U18 World Junior tournament, he was Russia’s top forward. He was their leading goal scorer, and he had a flare about him. Not as cocky as Ovechkin was, but he sure looked to score as often.
Now I’m not a scout, buy to pick McIlrath over these 2 guys, is crazy.
And like I said, Sioux. Fowler was the easy choice in that spot. Everybody had him as 5-7. Everybody.
In 2010, ISS didn’t even have McIlrath in their top 30.
New Jersey was smarter than the Rangers that year, and grabbed him. The rest is history.
In so many words,what was said about Ryan by Burke was that he’s not going to be a top 6 on this team they way they want it to be, and there were multiple concerns about him defensive capabilities or back of the line up presence. They see him as one dimensional.
That being said, someone asked earlier if anyone would pull the trigger on a Nash for Ryan deal and I’d say absolutely. If not for the fact that Ryan moves his feet more and engages more consistently then at least foe the extra 2.7 million dollars we’d save.