Rangers-Lightnings in review

514

Thoughts:

1) Henrik Lundqvist. I thought he had no chance on the first goal, none on the third. I thought the second was stoppable, that it was a big rebound (it was) and that he went down early and got beat high glove. But I watched it a few times. It really was a pretty unstoppable shot up under the bar. Whatever, you probably don’t even question it if Lundqvist hadn’t been so mediocre for so long, and if you weren’t wondering how fragile he is. This performance, overall, has to be a great boost for him. On the other hand, if he played the exact same game and lost 3-2 instead of won 4-3, that would have been bad. So, as he said post-game, the win is what he will take from this. He needed it more than his team did. I’m guessing Sweden is watching too.New York Rangers v Tampa Bay Lightning

2) Speaking of which, the Rangers best players were better in this game than they were in D.C. Derek Stepan, on his first shift, made a great defensive play in the slot, on his second or third shift he set up Rick Nash with a terrific pass for 1-0 goal. Team USA incentive? The U.S. really wanted this kid on the team and he might have played his way off it. The roster will be announced New Year’s Day after the Winter Classic. One thing I never understand with Stepan is why he so rarely shoots on the odd-man rush; he’s a great passer, but he’s got a really good shot.

3) Nash scored his first in eight, on a goal-scorer’s shot. He was a little more involved in this game than he has been in a while, and miles better than he was in D.C.

4) Conor Allen. The kid was just fine in his first NHL game. His partner, John Moore, left him crazy alone against three Lightnings by chasing the puck all the way to the blue line on the 4-3 goal — why, why, why with a two-goal lead? — and Carl Hagelin did a bad job of covering for Moore there and got himself benched. Allen got schooled by Martin St. Louis in the third, too, but what NHL defenseman hasn’t been beaten by him? For a first time out, the kid was good. Wonder if he gets another look if Anton Stralman or Marc Staal comes back Tuesday, because it looked as if some of the others might not.New York Rangers v Tampa Bay Lightning

6) Moore had a tough night on a few plays, and Michael Del Zotto was nightmarish. Maybe Del Zotto hears all the Ottawa rumors and doesn’t want to go play for President Teddy Roosevelt? This was a big step backward for him, and for any chances the Rangers have to trade him. He didn’t play the final five minutes (Justin Falk didn’t play the last 14 minutes). After the Nash goal, he and Moore were out on a PK because, well, the Rangers only have one dependable pair. Del Zotto chased the puck to the corner, and Moore did the dreaded snow angel, failed to block the pass, making it too easy for St. Louis to set up the PPG for 1-1. At least this time the penalty (by J.T. Miller) was in the defensive zone.

7) Seriously, the PP with Derick Brassard, Mats Zuccarello and Benoit Pouliot is better than the one with Nash, Stepan and whomever. Brad Richards was on the point for all three PPGs, by the way. Again. Give him credit where due. On the last two PPGs, Alain Vigneault started Brassard, Zuccarello and Pouliot.New York Rangers v Tampa Bay Lightning

8) Zuccarello, as I have been hollering for a while, is very simply their best forward and by far their most skilled power-play player. And he was, again, pretty darn good at even strength, too. Involved, competing. Using his speed.

9) Oh, and Richards gets, from me, a gigantic demerit for taking that crazy, risky gamble shot at the empty net for an icing late in the game. Nobody on the roster should know better than he does, and he didn’t.

10) It’s barely worth mentioning over and over and over. But Ryan McDonagh was just outstanding. And his sometimes partner, Dan Girardi, has been finding his game lately. Another good one for him.

11) Chris Kreider. That was another goal-scorer’s goal, wasn’t it? And he is the team’s leading goal scorer (with 10), despite being Hartforded by another coach. This, I thought, was his best  game in a while, and I thought he was pretty good in D.C. after being tentative late on the homestand.New York Rangers v Tampa Bay Lightning

12) J.T. Miller is getting more comfortable every night, it seems, too. Kid’s gonna be a player, IMO.

13) Wonder if the Rangers could have signed Valtteri Filppula ($5M cap hit, 14 goals) if they had bought out Richards last summer instead of this coming summer?

14) If I was the king of hockey, I’d put benches on opposite sides so there’d never be the long change 2nd period. Put the penalty boxes on opposite sides, too. Avoid a lot of the scrums between benches. How dumb is it for both teams to have that long-change disadvantage in the second period?

15) That tough guy Gudas set up the Rangers first goal and scored the second (credited to Zuccarello), Our great friend @LW3H tweeted: “Gudas now only needs to fight himself to earn the reverse Gordie Howe hat-trick.”
16) Another big performance by Pouliot. Is it possible that he’s figured it out, that this stop is going to be different than the others? That would be a huge deal for the Rangers, because he has good hands, is a very good skater, has size and is willing to go to the wall and to the net. Worth watching.

*************************************
My Three Rangers Stars:New York Rangers v Tampa Bay Lightning
1. Mats Zuccarello.
2. Derick Brassard.
3. Chris Kreider.
*************************************
Your poll vote for Three Rangers Stars:
1. Mats Zuccarello.
2. Henrik Lundqvist.
3. Chris Kreider.
*************************************

Photos by Getty Images.

Twitter: @rangersreport.

 

 

About Author

514 Comments

  1. on MDZ. at this point it is not fair to him to keep putting him out there with all the rumors going on. he is clearly effected by them. either trade him, or tell him that you are not. right now he is just an empty uniform out there.

  2. Maybe the prpblem with MichaelDZ…is that he is awaiting a visit from Morris Fink! Brad Richards just plays dumb hockey…bench him now before he gets hurt…probably fpr running into a teammate…because it he is unlikely to run into an opponent. Talking about dumb hockey…MDZ and J.Moore shall now be known as Twiddle Dee and..well you know the rest. Great to see the King back in the net…Kreids aticking up for his teammate…and Poulliot, who like Stella, has found his groove. Some great speed shifts for McD..and his born again shutdown partner…Mr. G!

  3. Welcome to the NHL Conor…and possibly a Top 3-4 slot. Maybe the prpblem with MichaelDZ…is that he is awaiting a visit from Morris Fink! Brad Richards just plays dumb hockey…bench him now before he gets hurt…probably fpr running into a teammate…because it he is unlikely to run into an opponent. Talking about dumb hockey…MDZ and J.Moore shall now be known as Twiddle Dee and..well you know the rest. Great to see the King back in the net…Kreids aticking up for his teammate…and Poulliot, who like Stella, has found his groove. Some great speed shifts for McD..and his born again shutdown partner…Mr. G!

  4. Nash looked like he had more juice this game. I dunno what was up the last stretch before tonight…float city.

  5. Quote of the game from the Tampa broadcast: guy 1 “nash sure does get motivated by a potential 2 on 1″
    Guy 2 “Yea, because he knows he won’t get hit”

  6. Who would have thought, going into the season that defense was going to be a problem and that our PP would carry us? Really the only steady defenseman right now is McD. Girardi hasn’t been as good (although better now), Stralman is what he is, really a 3rd pair defenseman, Staal is still shaking it off and now hurt, and MDZ and JMoore are just wildly inconsistent, and that’s being nice. I have always defended MDZ as him still being a kid, but he just doesn’t seem to get it. Moore’s speed is as much a hindrance as a help as he overskates and gets himself out of position.

    Doesn’t it make you made that a team playing EIGHT rookies can be one the top four in the conference? Shows you what having a good judge of hockey talent can do. Also shows you that Sather has one trick that he’s tried over and over. Lets pick up other team’s high potential busts and see what we can do with them. And more often than not, we see why they were busts.

    So what is this Ottawa rumor with MDZ?

  7. Love your reviews Carp. Miller was benched for the remainder of the game after the third goal. AV said that Allen earned time by being better than some other guys. Expect to see him tomorrow and beyond. He’s cool with the puck, skates well and not afraid to shoot.

    Has Nash moved ahead of Richards on the buyout front? Only money and age say no. Performance says yes.

    John Moore is a consistently dumb player who has little feel for the game.

    John Scott has as many goals this year as Brian Boyle. Just sayin’.

  8. Good morning, boneheads!

    Nice review, Carp. I especially liked your sharp observation on JT Miller. Because even though people keep getting on his case for not being reliable defensively at times, and only playing one shift in over a half period at the end, I, too, think he is settling very nicely in the lineup. He should stay at center position.

    That was a good game to watch. Painful at times, but entertaining. Most important thing was Hank’s game when they needed it, especially in the 3rd period. Did any of our resident trolls explode because of it? :-)

    Allen looked very poised with the puck. He earned another game or two. I’d like to see a bit more of him against different opponents. But he earned his spot for now.
    I agree with bull dog, they need to resolve MDZ situation one way or another. It seems to be too much for him to handle at the moment. The kid is only 23.

    MZA has been their best forward in general, not only on PP. He is still a RFA next year, and up to now hasn’t been difficult to deal with, contract-wise. Sather needs to be proactive and reasonable with him. He earned his next contract.

  9. Manny, you would rather Sam Rosen start at D than see Stralman on the ice but agree that Allen did a fine job in his first start.

    Nice review, as always, Carp.

  10. It’s true. I think that my hatred of Stralman has taken on crazy levels just out of humor’s sake.

  11. MDZ’s expression when he joined the scrum after Kreider’s goal looked like he was completely depressed. No elation, no excitement. Like a guy who knows he’s gone.

  12. Tampa Bay spent some LONG shifts in the Rangers’ zone. The Rs need Staal and Strålman (in the humble opinion of this very occasional poster). Right now our D is, whoa.

    Tampa Bay is fun to watch. They can really pass, make plays, all that.

  13. The best part of the Allen call up is that it wasn’t Hamrlk, as it was last season when GV Stralman was injured.

  14. JJP – that’s hilarious. For some reason they switched the height and weight for him and Morten Ask. Still funny.

  15. Allen > Moore, Falk DelZotto, McIlrath

    Great skating by the kid. Good vision. Well see how he holds up in the DZone.

  16. I’m glad that Hank played well. But if he will be making 15% more than any other goalie in the league shouldn’t we expect elite goaltending regularly?

  17. Stranger Nation on

    #14 – yes, yes, and yes. this makes sooo much sense and maybe even allow bigger benches. always laugh at how professional athletes are forced to squeeze into bench areas that are too small to fit them.
    What’s up with that?

  18. RangerSwedigian on

    Didn’t see the game last night since I only seem to catch the bad games right now. Good to hear about Hanka not Tanka. Nice for him to get the win and a solid outing for once.

    Wonder if there will be any trades before the olympics or if the big deals are going to get orchestrated in Russia.

    Heading to Brussels for New Years tonight, see youse laters

  19. Stranger Nation on

    Rangers worse period was 3rd, but they basically didn’t play half their D? Cause/effect?

    Scary stat: 5v5 NYR ranked 26th; special teams have to carry this squad b/c at even strength we are not getting it done.

    D System is to play man; Moore plays his man on 3rd goal and JT Miller and Pullout also decide to play his man. this system is great for transition, but leaves plenty of open ice for O.

  20. Stranger Nation on

    Pullout has good hands, but more importantly has his stick on the ice all the time when in front of crease.

    Every goal scored last night was from within 6 ft or closer to goal save for MZA misdirection which had Pullout sitting on crease.

    Much better than last game against Bolts

  21. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    SNation – the rangers are following the PT Barnum style of defense….if you’re going to put all your eggs ( players on ice) in one basket (covering and chasing the puck) you better watch that basket (get the puck away from the opponent)

  22. Nice review Carp! Agree with your thoughts on Del Zotto. Either the organization should commit to him or trade him. The constant rumors have to be a distraction. Also, how about the fact that AV TRUSTS the 4th line out there in tough and crucial situations. The Ranger 4th line is becoming quite effective

    Here’s why the Rangers would have lost last night if Torts was still the coach:
    1) PP would have gone 0-3 instead of 3-3.
    2) Connor Allen would have made one mistake, gotten screamed at, and them benched for the remainder of the game.
    3) McD and Girardi would have had 35 minutes of ice time rendering them useless for the final 10 minutes of the game.
    4) 1st and 2nd lines would have been run into the ground and then blasted in the post-game presser.

    LGR!!!!

  23. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Engblom – “JR, have ever had your IQ tested?”

    JR – “eye cue? You mean pool cue?”

    Engblom – “you are most stupidest”

  24. “Allen looked good with the puck so he can stay another game or two?” What the hell is it with this pervasive mentality that no young player can step into a responsible role here and make the grade, right away?

    Why do so many look at (youthful) age as a major disqualifier, around here? So that if Allen is better than Stralman, we still need to go with Stralman because he has “experience.” It’s crazy.

  25. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Ricardo – good review. Nash was more involved. And Miller is showing some feistiness on ice. He was noticeable neary every time he was on the ice.

  26. Rob in Beantown on

    They both played college hockey at Hockey East schools, so I think that’s a reasonable comp

  27. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Allen Conor, mcD, Johnny Moore, Falk, and MDZ are young and the future of the Ranger D. I’m not convinced MDZ is the worst human on earth. He needs a good shrink and some tutelage. Ulfie isn’t doing the job. MDZ needs another D professor….It be great if he could re acquire his game. There is some raw talent there….it must be nurtured…

  28. Not surprised about those goaltender being chosen but I do get the cries of people that thought *Bishop* , the Storm Trooper, should have been included over Howard. Would have been nice to have a young guy.

  29. @TGfireandice Steve Bernier just fell and crashed hard into end boards at high speed. Right shoulder first. Not looking good.

    @TGfireandice Bernier was trying to go wide around Zidlicky and fell. Was going about as fast as he could. Entire practice stopped.

  30. I wonder who comes out when Cally gets back. Yeah it’s a couple of weeks away probably, and a lot can happen (trades/injuries) but the guys who aren’t playing up to snuff are the top liners who are unlikely to get benched (Nash, Step, Richie), and the most obvious guy used to be Pouliot, but he’s been good. I’m thinking now it has to be Boyle or D.Moore, but that fourth line has been effective. So who sits?

  31. Stranger Nation on

    _Both those guys were having a real hard time with their game,” Vigneault said of Pouliot and Zuccarello. “Both sat out, both didn’t complain to the world about being sat out. What they did was they rolled their sleeves and they got to work and even though I thought they were both working real hard, they both analyzed their game and found a way to get back on track and both players are very useful players to our team right now_

    maybe he should do that with some others…

  32. Stranger Nation on

    _Brad Richards was on the point for all three PPGs, by the way. Again. Give him credit where due_

    outside of FO win on 2nd goal, he didn’t touch the puck on the scoring plays. So the key to PP is to keep it away from Richards…

  33. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Papa – I thought so. I must have seen at least 15 games on the Atwater St. Forum…..my memory is fading….

  34. jimG the desertrat on

    They say you have to stand out, thought Conner Allen was good, inpressed with the way he got the puck out of our end.

  35. Memory a little foggy but I remember the Big Whistle and Jim Gordon complaining about the advantage for Boston and Montreal.

  36. i know the penality box issue and complaint, foggy memory…it was the forum not the garden. Went to the forum at 16 with my buddy. first 5 min down 3-0 ugh my lifes savings, came back and made it a game, i think 6-4. stayed in the same hotel as the rangers. got a picture of JD looking like David Crosby in more ways than one. Saw all the boys late night the night before…lots of stories.

  37. Love a Dman who skates well and is able make the across the grain breakout pass to trap the forecheckers.

    Good Vision.

    *IMPRESSED*

  38. Matts Zuccarello is our points leader today. HA!

    How many of you would have thought that at the start of the season.

    Manny would you say he has good “value” for this team :)

  39. Just imagine if we could get the “same value” out of Nash and Richards, dollar for dollar :)

  40. For as right as I am about most everything else, I was waaaaaaay off on Zucc. Although I’d still contend him leading out team in points or being in the top 3-5 is a pretty bad sign.

  41. @Eddie on MDZ and @MisterD on Girardi. True and True. Del Zotto’s not a shut down defenseman the way Samuelsson was. He’s regularly put in bad positions by his partner, especially Stralman. His stretch passes are consistently effective. Girardi is supposed to be that shut down guy, but he’s sliding all over the ice, leaving his partner out to dry.

  42. And to be clear, I’m fine with Girardi being who he is, but this board has a strange tendency to figure out the best D and then get really, really mad at every other D for any flaws. McDonagh being awesome doesn’t mean he’s the baseline and everyone else has to suck, they’re just flawed because most every NHL player is flawed.

  43. Was going to scroll through Go Time later. This baby business is interfering with RR life :-)

    Seriously, I miss watching games with you, guys. Trolls notwithstanding. It’s alright, she will only be 17 month old once.

  44. For Papa Bear : the old Boston Garden was about 9 feet shorter then the average NHL rinks at the time. The difference was made up in the neutral zone which led to short crisp passes or lots of 2 line offsides. I believe there was a difference in width also but I can’t remember how much.

  45. Stranger Nation on

    Zucc has great hands, but what I am most impressed with is his HUSTLE! Earlier in season he shied from contact and was not playing the entire 200 ft. Now he is helping out down low, playing the body and carrying the puck with authority.

    His play on Kreider goal as well as pass to Brass were top line plays

  46. I actually meant to write Adysmal but it’s so engrained in my head that I thought that was the *proper* word and that *abysmal* was incorrect.

  47. Another great review by the Blogmaster. I thought Mr. Micheletti was very good about pointing out Ranger screw ups last night. Was this a refreshing change and improvement, or simply a case where Moore and MDZ screwed up so badly that he had to point it out? Henrik is so jittery in the net. Watched the winter classic game in Philly last week, and he was so calm and relaxed, kind of like how Talbot looks now. That was the most physical contact by Nash since he came back from his latest concussion. Maybe he forgot that he was supposed to be fraidy scared. Conor Allen gets into his first game and he is the 3rd bast d-man out there. Wow. I do want to lodge a complaint. CARP- next time you are in the locker room, please tell Allen he needs to change his number so those of us watching on TV can avoid confusing him with Mc Monster.

  48. ?@chrismpeters Love this line from Ray Ferraro on skill at WJC: “The coaches at the NHL level haven’t coached the creativity out of them yet.”

  49. Rob in Beantown on

    Speaking of, set your iPhone alarms now: US vs. Canada, World Juniors, at 11:30 am tomorrow morning on NHL Network

  50. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Henrik is so jittery in the net._

    He appeared shaky to start but settled down as the game progressed. He allowed another Hanka Hanka goal against, but was steady overall. Hanka Hanka.

  51. Rob in Beantown on

    Stranger Nation, it’s on NHL Network if you get that on your cable package. However, it’s supposed to be streamed on NHL.com as well. Not sure if you have to pay for that.

  52. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Engblom – “JR, try speaking in sometimes complete sentences”

    JR – “hey Engblom, I’ve got a complete sentence for you….try this on for all size – Engblom is most stupid”

  53. JR: ‘You have to maintain a certain presents on ice, but it’s not a good idea to bring Christmas gifts during play.’

  54. Rob in Beantown on

    Matt Grzelcyk is making a strong case for the USA most valuable player at World Juniors. #GoBU #Imakeepusinghashtags

  55. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Engblom – “ha ha that’s so funny I forgot to remember to laugh”

    JR – “that’s cause your mammary is confused”

  56. @AGrossRecord Lengthy chat between assistant Ulf Samuelsson and Del Zotto just breaking up. DZ benched last night, could be out tomorrow night.

  57. Also, according to P. Leonard Conor Allen was paired with Staal (2nd Pair I guess).

    @PLeonardNYDN Conor Allen paired during practice today w Marc Staal, by the way

    **********************************

    3-2 Slovakia (Anthony Manza scores for CAN)

  58. Read a review of the 18 yr old kid Santini that said he could skate, throws his body, clears the crease, doesn’t get caught upice, plays with a bit of a snarl, gets the puck out of the zone quickly, but has ‘little offensive upside.’ Meanwhile, in whatever tournament they were covering, he was voted MVP. That’s the kind of Defenseman I want. Nash and Richie and their ilk get paid to do the scoring. Too bad he belongs to the Devils.

  59. Unless he really likes NY, I can’t see why DZ hasn’t formally requested a trade. This is just getting ridiculous.

  60. Manny you know I’ve got your back on the Stralman thing.

    And Maloney was talking on the radio last night about how Miller looks a lot better playing center ice. I’m starting the “walk away from Brassard” campaign too!

  61. The thing with Del Zotto has surpassed even Dubinsky like speculation. Just let the kid go somewhere he can get clean slate. but somewhere he can’t stick it to us

  62. ilb.,
    What is the name of your place upstate? (if it not classified, of course).
    Also, I tried to e-mail you, but, obviously, your old address was changed, right?

  63. Brass will, at least, put himself in harm’s way and fight vigorously for the puck behind the net, unlike our ‘#1′ center.

  64. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Brassard is a productive player. I do not think he is cost efficient at more than $4MM annually.

  65. oh I’m sorry mister D, he showed up for a couple of weeks? ok I’ll note your sarcasm. He must be finally proving himself as a first round draft pick. Let’s sign him to a long term contract for 3 million+ per year. : D

  66. I also think, that at $4M/Per, you walk away from Brassard. Not just because of Miller but because of Brassard. Although, Miller looking good at Center helps.

    And NAZEM KADRI is supposedly on the market. So go get him.

  67. Stepan is better than Brassard because he’s a completely reliable defensive Center. He also rocks the PK. Are we really falling into this argument again?

    Brassard is inconsistent and very ineffective defensively. He most certainly can be, in flashes, an offensive WHIZ kid and a real revalation on the PP. But, overall, Stepan is simply more consistent and better Defensively (which is *CRUCIAL* when playing with one-way, first line players).

    Also… Kadri > Brassard

  68. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _I also think, that at $4M/Per, you walk away from Brassard. Not just because of Miller but because of Brassard._

    *I also think, that at $4M/Per, you walk away from Brassard. Not just because of Miller but because of Brassard.*

  69. Coos, I hear you guys about Brassard, but if we can debate all season of whether Lundqvist is worth an extension we can sure as heck make the same argument about Brassard. He’s an RFA after this year. He’s going to want somewhere between 3-4 million and neither he nor Richards are capable of being a #1 for us next year. That money is better spent elsewhere.

  70. _oh I’m sorry mister D, he showed up for a couple of weeks? ok I’ll note your sarcasm. He must be finally proving himself as a first round draft pick. Let’s sign him to a long term contract for 3 million+ per year._

    More like “had a few bad weeks when paired exclusively with bottom 6 / 4th liners every night”, no?

    Games 0-6: 4 points
    Games 7-20: 3 points
    Games 21-40: 14 points

  71. But how can you discount the fact that Brassard has never, in 7 seasons, ever lived up to expectations and is thus, seriously overpaid. We simply cannot rely on him to be a first line Center.

  72. ?@NYRangersZone Marc Staal confirms he will return to lineup tomorrow vs. Panthers #NYR

    And according to Practice today he will be paired with Conor Allen.

  73. I’d probably start with something along the lines of “6 of those seasons were spent in Columbus”.

  74. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _But how can you discount the fact that Brassard has never, in 7 seasons, ever lived up to expectations and is thus, seriously overpaid. We simply cannot rely on him to be a first line Center._

    We are vibing.

  75. Brass, I believe, is making 3.7 mil this year. He may very well be too pricey going forward for his production.

  76. OK Mister D. Guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on this. That is if you think it’s logical to tie up that kind of money in a kid who’s been pretty up and down his whole career so that once Richards is gone we have him Stepan Miller Moore and Boyle up the middle and you’re satisfied with that

  77. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _I’d probably start with something along the lines of “6 of those seasons were spent in Columbus_

    If your argument is quality of teammates, then you must hold the same view of Nash.

  78. _If your argument is quality of teammates, then you must hold the same view of Nash._

    I do. He seems (seemed) to be able to score at will earlier in his career, but his assist numbers were certainly lower based on his teammates.

  79. And I still maintain if Brassard were a homegrown 2nd or 3rd rounder playing like he is now, he’d be viewed in a totally different light and worth keeping around as an RFA. Besides, hasn’t Dubinsky shown that maybe our expectations for $4MM production are a bit out of line with reality?

  80. On Hank. There’s a very easy way to determine if Hank is calm or comfy. Watch his rebound control. If the puck is low and he stops it and the puck dribble back out, he’s not comfortable. The Hank that is on top of his game controls those pucks and either holds the puck or passes it out. Last night early, those pucks were dribbling away from him. I thought in the 3rd he had much better control. When he went through that streak after the initial road trip and was sharp, very few rebounds. So I wonder if that’s because of the new smaller pads. Do the pucks bounce more easily off of them and they get away from him?

  81. Stranger Nation on

    Like JT Miller jam and play, but he has 7 pts in 48 games and is very green. Keep him up here, but he is not a top 6 player now, let alone in the pivot.

    Why does people get so caught up on what players have done and now what they see with their eyes? Eyes of the beholder…

    That and Step sucks on PK, he really does, sorry but he is slow as molasses out there. Like the guys desire and compete but he is not a good defensive center, usually found diving to break up a play because he is too slow to be in it.

  82. I hate to use the Boston comparison again, but you can get away without a true #1 if you have two really good #2 (by traditional standards) like Bergeron and Krejci.

    So, if Brassard actually can break 50 points (for the first time in his career), be somewhat responsible defensively, and be the 1st unit PP center, then $4M is OK.

  83. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _I do. He seems (seemed) to be able to score at will earlier in his career, but his assist numbers were certainly lower based on his teammates._

    His (Nash) assist and goal stats would also be affected by the quality of teammates with the Rangers.

  84. I love you The Doctor, but comparing Brassard to Dubinsky is offensive. Dubinsky is a consummate teammate that rallies the room, leads by example, never gives less than 110% and is a CAPTAIN in ‘Lumbus.

  85. I didn’t compare them as player types, I compared them in terms of “people expect a flawless top 6 wing at $4MM and that’s not reality”.

  86. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _And I still maintain if Brassard were a homegrown 2nd or 3rd rounder playing like he is now, he’d be viewed in a totally different light and worth keeping around as an RFA._

    Quality point.

  87. Well they don’t compare as people either. Brassard is a Canadian Hick with a backwoods accent and Dubinsky is an American Born hottie with cowl neck sweaters.

  88. And it might sound crazy, but if you took the contract recapture, years, etc. out of the equation, I probably prefer Richards at $6.7M over Brassard at $4-4.5M. Though, that might change by the end of the year.

    Anyway, it’s moot because Richards needs to be bought out, and Brassard will probably be the #2 center next year either way.

  89. Stranger Nation on

    If Brass is too pricey, don’t forget you need to replace him with another center and 2nd line centers market rate is about…. minimum $3.5 – 4M/year on the open market.

    If you want to pay Stastny $6.5 – 7M/year and have Step as a #2 at $3.075 that is definitely workable, but you must, must send Mr Ed to the glue factory and think Stastny can handle #1 pivot in NYC.

  90. I think its crazy, Gravy. You’re paying $3MM more for a guy who profiles better on a wing now and has only 6 more points in 120 more minutes (56 more PP). Richards’ per minute numbers are falling and falling as his seeming flukey type goals disappear.

  91. Thanks for the link Manny.

    Crazy Canada is outshooting them 2-1, and down 3-2.

    They can score so many in bunches.

  92. I’m going to go so far as to guarantee that if Brassard were our guy and Stepan were not, you (Manny) would completely reverse course, esp given the difference in physicality.

  93. Drouin #3 pick overall last year.

    Rangers have never had that high of pick. Not in my lifetime.

  94. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I find it funny that some want to talk all about brassard’s pre ranger career in an overall evaluation of him currently, but totally discount Nash’s in his current overall evaluation.

    Some of you should be in politics the way you hypocritically use stats only when they work towards your point.

  95. I think you guys take the comments about *Brassard* way too seriously. I like the kid, but all things considered I think Stepan is a better player and I think that Brassard would be overpaid at $4M.

    ***********************************

    Nic Petan (WPG) scores his second goal of the game with an ENG and CAN wins 5-3.

  96. _D – are you saying Brassard is better than Stepan?_

    I do not, but given Manny’s preference for *toughness*, one guy fits his model quite a bit more than the other.

    (I like Step as a high 2, Brassard would be a low 2, high 3.)

  97. Salary doesn’t matter in the comp anyway. If you could get two Stepans at Stepan money versus a Stepan and a Brassard, of course you do it. That’s not an option.

  98. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _I’m going to go so far as to guarantee that if Brassard were our guy and Stepan were not, you (Manny) would completely reverse course, esp given the difference in physicality_

    Your guarantee is correct. However, that is not going far. It is the natural tendency of many fans to cling to a player that began his career with the team.

  99. Stepan is *tough*. Do you know the courage it takes to leave the house when you’re *bald* at his age?

  100. Down 1-3 in the 2nd, to win 5-3. 2 points behind USA.

    Cananda has to win in regulation to pass the US.

    Tomorrow will be a game to DVR.

  101. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    If brass isn’t worth 4 mil per, neither is step.

    Offensively they are equal IMHO and step may be better defencively, but brass is more physical and willing. That makes them even in my book.

  102. If they can qualify Brassard at his current salary (or whatever the minimum increase is) then go for it. Just realize he has to maintain a 2nd line position to be worth it.

    But if Kadri was available I would trade either of them for him.

  103. Brassards skills are worth $4+ mil. Brassards actual results are not. That same thought process works for Nash too.

  104. I bet that’s not really true, Manny. At a $70MM cap, you’re looking at $3.5MM per player so once you start logically spreading it out, your 2C is going to be allocated more, not less.

  105. Also Manny, there is a reason Kadri is being shopped. All the skills in the world but he lacks the hockey IQ to be a top 2 center. I like his game but I wouldn’t give up much for him. He’s essentially brassard 2.0, just smaller.

  106. I thought, without looking it up, that Kadri was capable of 40+ points on a more consistent basis than Brassard.

  107. I find it funny that people think that this Rangers team is more offensively talented than the Columbus teams that Nash and Brassard played for.

  108. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Can we trade Staal to Carolina for Gleason now?_

    The Rangers would be wise to investigate trading Staal to Carolina. They might be the only team interested in acquiring his services for an above value return.

  109. Brassard’s Cap hit is $3.2M (CapGeek) but his salary right now is $3.7M. He has to be offered 105% of that salary, or $3.885M per season.

  110. Brassard’s cap hit is $3.2M this year, but he is an RFA and likely to get $4M starting next year.

  111. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _I find it funny that people think that this Rangers team is more offensively talented than the Columbus teams that Nash and Brassard played for_

    *Kenneth at clinchers of ’89Flames ’94Rangers ’96Avs*
    _I do. He seems (seemed) to be able to score at will earlier in his career, but his assist numbers were certainly lower based on his teammates._

    His (Nash) assist and goal stats would also be affected by the quality of teammates with the Rangers.

    December 30th, 2013 at 1:31 PM

  112. Right, $3.7M qualifying. And, since he’s arbitration eligible, he is likely to get more if they signed him to a 2 or 3 year deal that takes him to UFA.

  113. Rangers top line talent around Nash is better than Columbus’ top line talent in Nash’s time there. Overall scoring might be the same, but the TOI comps really aren’t.

  114. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    At least $3.7MM salary next season, not $3.7MM cap hit.

  115. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    And that 3.2 deal for step is a bridge deal for 2 seasons and I’m guessing at a new contract of 4.5 per at a minimum after that.

    So brass at 4 ish vs step at 4.5 plus…I’ll take brass.

  116. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Rangers top line talent around Nash is better than Columbus’ top line talent in Nash’s time there. Overall scoring might be the same, but the TOI comps really aren’t._

    With Richards as his center? The horse everyone loves to hate.

  117. So lets look at it this way, Manny. If Brassard were playing with any two of Nash / Callahan / Kreider / Zucc / Hags exclusively this season, what do you think his point total is? Still 21?

  118. @jonasTSN1050 Carlyle said Kadri needs to take another step. “We feel if Peter Holland continues to play he’s going to challenge [Kadri] for that spot.”

    @jonasTSN1050 Randy Carlyle feels line of Lupul, Raymond and Kadri has to improve. “In my mind they’re playing to a fraction of where they really can be.”

  119. Brassard is not a $4M player.

    What would he have to do. Center the 2nd line and put up 20-30 for 50 points?

  120. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Manny
    Before steps Dubinsky…errr holdout, what was everyone saying his contract would should be?

  121. Well all of us wanted him to sign at a little below $4M for a lot of years. Rangers chose cheaper and shorter. I would have given him $3.7M for 7 years because he should make at least as much as Brassard.

  122. Man, if we could go back and find the Dubinsky pre-contract talk, that would be great. I recall him almost always being mentioned in tandem with Callahan. Insane how people hold not taking what’s offered against a player.

  123. I remember a lot of Joy and Adulation when Dubinsky got his contract. People said “he earned it.”

  124. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _People said “he earned it_

    One schmo said Zuccarello earned a contract with his play the past several weeks. (:

  125. Wick- regarding Brass and Nash I am critical of both equally (Brassard’s been the better of the two obviously) but I am in favor of not tying up 3-4 mill in him even if we buy out Richards. my personal opinion is that we need to tweak things to get a more potent top 6. we have an over abundance of “middle of the pack guys” that we have to hope get/stay/become consistent 82 games a year

  126. @PLeonardNYDN Lundqvist in goal vs Fla. Stralman is close, strong chance he plays. Staal in. AV says no decision yet but looks like Del Zotto, Falk out

  127. And we all know that most opinions around here are very “you’re only as good as your last game” oriented..so the fact that Brassard’s been good lately is probably tipping the scale.

  128. The commitment to Brassard doesn’t have to go beyond next year given his RFA status. Who are you bringing in that does more for an equal or lower contract without tossing out assets in the process?

  129. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    1 less game 3 less points and not disputable inferior linemates and some of you argue like you are comparing Wayne Gretzky Stepan to Darren Langdon brassard!

  130. Manny at the time of Dubi contract I think Cally & Dubi were on the same page. Then after, Dubi had a terrible year as far as stats go. If you get $4M, you HAVE to put the puck in the net and help the team win games.

    He sure had a nice goal last night.

  131. Stepan and Brassard are pretty close. That’s why most of us have differing opinions on this issue. It’s a good thing.

    But I agree with James that we have too much redundancy and middle level players and need to tweak that lineup.

    *must* tweak

  132. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Manny
    I was talking about right before/during steps holdout (which I am calling a Dubinsky) what everyone said his contract would/should be!

  133. You don’t need to bring in a replacement for Brassard. You’re talking around 9 million freed up in payroll between he and Richards if neither stays. Miller moves into his spot and in the next year or two you bring in one UFA who can produce. Why is that so far fetched?

  134. I’m pretty sure I’ve been too consistent if anything w/ regards to my opinions on Brassard.

  135. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Why is that so far fetched_

    It is not far-fetched. Some individuals would rather hang onto mediocrity than seek better.

  136. Mister D the comment about inconsistent opinion wasn’t directed at you. like I said we’ll just agree to disagree. And if Brassard proves me wrong by seasons end I’ll be thrilled. right now I dont think it’d be a smart move.

  137. Stranger Nation on

    _Miller moves into his spot and in the next year or two you bring in one UFA who can produce_
    Miller has 7 pts in 48 games, but next year he is going to be our 2nd line center and the offense will be better?

  138. We will need a scoring Center until Miller or Lindberg can EARN the spot. Not sure if either are ready for it NEXT year.

  139. Trade MDZ, or play him. putting him through this is not helping anyone. it is a wasted asset.

  140. _And if Brassard proves me wrong by seasons end I’ll be thrilled. right now I dont think it’d be a smart move._

    Sure, its not ideal, but given what our options will be, tendering Brassard seems like a no-brainer. Otherwise you’re entering the season with Stepan and then a bunch of 21 year olds / AHLers down the middle (assuming Richards buyout and Boyle not being resigned). Even if you think $4MM is high, there’s value in not having to go to $4MM for 4+ years like you would if he were an outside UFA.

  141. I like Brassard as a player, and would have no problem keeping him. having said that, I think they need some size at the center position. I have said it before, and will say it again. I would make Kreider a center.

  142. Brassards kind of like Pouliot, high draft pick, looks like he has a lot of potential, could play on most teams in the NHL, but doesn’t score enough to resign to a larger contract on the same team.

    I don’t see him as a Ranger next year, *unless* he takes Sathers offer from the start.

  143. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    AAV more than Brassard, similar to Richards current AAV. Term of 4-6 years. Hoping. Not expecting.

  144. So if the hope (but not expectation) is for Stastny to take a stagnant AAV on a non-max term … that’s not really a plan, right? We’re still back to Stepan + ???

  145. Stranger Nation on

    Mister D – agree 3:03; my point exactly. Brassard is what we have. Would rather have Dubi or Artie as 2C though Artie never seemed to break through and Dubi under performed prior to trade.

    In the last three seasons; Dubi has averaged .19 G/G with (43 Gs in 216 games) with 7 PP Gs. Yes he plays physical and has the intangibles, but you better bring something else if that is your goal production.

    Dubi, artie and #1 (Erixon – meh) is insane for Nash and I thought Nash could help given lack of top 6 offensive talent.

  146. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Stastny to take a stagnant AAV on a non-max term … that’s not really a plan, right_

    The plan is to sign him in the offseason, let Brassard walk and move JT Miller into the 3C role.

    You consider $7MM AAV stagnant, yes? Let’s see the market for Stastny before dismissing him as an option, no?

  147. Once Kreider and Miller were off the table, the talent for Nash wasn’t the issue, it was simply “should we take Nash at Nash’s contract at all”.

  148. Yes, I consider “Richards money”, which is $6.67MM, stagnant for someone currently making $6.6MM.

  149. Peg
    It will come back to you
    Peg
    It will come back to you
    Then the shutter falls
    You see it all in 3-D
    It’s your favorite foreign movie

  150. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    *Similar to Richards*

    $7MM-$7.5MM AAV. Stastny is a couple years younger than when Richards signed his most recent contract.

    If you want the Rangers to succeed, they can’t continue to employ mediocre players like Brassard (or Dubinsky) because they play well over short periods of time.

  151. The weekend at the college didn’t turn out like you planned.
    The things that pass for knowledge I don’t understand.

  152. My disagreement isn’t on whether or not Stastny would be a good addition, its what he’ll realistically cost on the open market.

  153. Just got back from the gym. What did you guys do in my absence because I’m now stronger and a bit older and wiser than earlier…

  154. I used to be a guy that was all, “Stats don’t tell the whole story and neither does watching the game. Both are flawed with Bias. YOu have to combine them.”

    But the Stat geeks are REALLY starting to get to me (on Twitter). I can’t take it anymore.

  155. @NYRangersZone Vigneault says that difference between Zucc and Pouliot benching vs. Del Zotto is that Poul and Zucc “didn’t complain to the world” about it

  156. Are you talking to *ME* the Doctor!? I was definitely born in CT. I apologize for my parents’ inadequacies.

  157. OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    *BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN*

  158. Also, really glad to see that the DZ stuff has gotten personal. That’s definitely the way to handle a 23 year old defenseman who was once a point every other game, switch his side, expect him to remain unphased, never (to the best of my knowledge) even acknowledge the change he’s had to deal with, then get mad at how he handles being benched for junkers like Falk. Masters level asset management. Hooray.

  159. My hair is an issue in that its unmanageable, not that its fading. Its probably unfair; somewhere there’s a guy who had wonderful hair that he’s losing and here I am keeping my mediocre hair.

  160. I know the feeling. My hair is the opposite of balding. It’s actually growing towards my eyes instead of away from it.

  161. LMGOOOOO Sorry that was great. I just recently realized Step is on his way to looking like Messier..in regards to hair at least

  162. Or maybe AV should just not be a jerk? DZ hasn’t complained publicly, so what are you gaining by airing it out?

    I hope his agent is calling, this is just dumb now.

  163. Mine isn’t going forward, it just grows out. If most people have 20 hairstyles to choose from, I have like 1.5.

  164. I don’t think Vigneault has any personal dealings with the players. He has too many -assistant coaches- interns as intermediaries.

  165. Not holding it against DZ, because it’s not an issue that solely affects him, but I think NHL defensemen should know how to play both sides of the rink. Forwards, especially wings, should be able to play any of the three positions. These guys are professional athletes; hell, I used to have to know how to play all the midfield and fullback positions in like 6th grade youth soccer.

  166. Time to part ways with MDZ. Thought he would really thrive in this new system but he’s actually gotten worse.

  167. Maybe Latona, but its pretty obvious he can’t, so if its really such an easy thing to be pliable, why hasn’t another LHD made the move? That’s what I don’t get, its almost like his punishment for being worse on the right side is having to play the right side, to everyone’s detriment.

  168. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Thought he would really thrive in this new system but he’s actually gotten worse._

    I held the same belief. (:

  169. Not saying it’s an easy thing to be pliable, but it’s something that should be taught to these guys to avert situations like this. It’s pretty obvious he can’t indeed, probably because nobody ever made him practice there before. I don’t imagine it can be entirely too different that it’d be impossible to have a fair grasp of both positions.

  170. Stranger Nation on

    Remember reading about Arniel not liking swinging bachelors. Guess MDZ’s pre season training regimen in Ibiza Night Club bubbles didn’t earn him the respect it should have.

    MEZ is a head case pure and simple. Needs a change of scenery.

  171. Stranger Nation on

    Latona to your point; 4 out of every 6 NHL Dmen are Lefthanded; so every team (on ave.) will have one D playing off side.

  172. If that’s even a little true, its ridiculous. One thing if he’s showing up hungover and not ready to practice, but its another if you simply don’t like guys who (gasp) go out and party without getting arrested or anything in their early 20s. That’s the entire point of being in your early 20s.

  173. To be fair I think MDZ and Zucc went to Ibiza together.. so cant really blame it on that. And both are Italian :)

  174. NHL dMen should be competent at skating…..in all directions.

    NHL dMen should be competent at stopping ….in all directions.

    NHL dMen should be competent at turning and pivoting while skating ….in all directions.

  175. _Latona to your point; 4 out of every 6 NHL Dmen are Lefthanded; so every team (on ave.) will have one D playing off side._

    Understood on this point, but is the guy you expect to run a decent point and throw long outlets really the one you want having to pivot to do so? Like maybe if you think he’s your best stick handler, you think he’d be best suited to switch, but its just sooooooo obvious you’ve decreased his effectiveness from where it was. None of it, beyond initial experiment, really makes sense to me.

  176. (And further, Moore is getting a major pass this year. He hasn’t been tangibly better than DZ and he’s doing so naturally.)

  177. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _simply don’t like guys who (gasp) go out and party without getting arrested or anything in their early 20s. That’s the entire point of being in your early 20s._

    These players have jobs to do. Take a couple weeks following the season to enjoy partying rather than during the season.

  178. Party thrower greeting Torts at door: “Hi, John, how have you been?”

    Torts: “You writin’ a book?’

  179. Stranger Nation on

    Mr D – disagree on Moore v. MEZ; While Moore has been exposed at times in the D zone, he has looked more competent than MEZ, especially in taking body and shooting the puck. That said, both are young and can be serviceable D-men.
    Solution; Fire Ulfie

  180. Stranger Nation on

    Latona – it was actually 11.86 out of 18.21 Dmen, but I just rounded off for a 6 men unit.

  181. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    20-somethings with a rarer skill than those doing more important jobs. The body and mind are of utmost importance.

  182. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Police do not possess body. Police nor firemen are paid as handsomely as NHL players.

  183. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _I’ll file this one away, thank you_

    Are you familiar with overweight, out-of-shape policemen?

    No, thank you. I will file this one away.

  184. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Jackwagon festival again, ‘heads?_

    Should you not be performing your duties as Sanitation Engineer?

  185. Lifetime contract for whatever amount he wants that year and at the press conference announcing the historic signing, Brassard was wearing an “F CONNECTICUT” hoodie. Wow did you miss a lot!

  186. Hmmmmm…

    @DarrenDreger

    Carolina trades Kevin Westgarth to Calgary for Greg Nemisz.

    @DarrenDreger

    Hurricanes needed to move a contract, hence the Westgarth trade.

    @DarrenDreger

    Seems to be more trade activity brewing around the Hurricanes. Could be an interesting night.

  187. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Manny *IS* Stalin!

    Sioux
    I’d love to try and trade him for hanzal if we are trading him for a center.

    Personally, I’m trading centers right now to fill holes..we have miller, secretariat, step, brass, d Moops, and Boyle on the big club roster and Lindberg supposedly close in the “A”

    Still think the mad bomber and miller for methot is the deal I make

  188. LOL I have not heard the secretariat joke before. Does that mean he lets Diane Lane ride him,Wick??

  189. Another damn former Jacket..but way too big and solid to argue it being a good move, Wick. I’d do it. But then I lose Miller from my argument for leaving Brassard out in the cold
    >: /

  190. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Torts – “2014 better ******* bring some ******* changes in the ******* way you ******* play this ******* game”

  191. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Torts – “which one of you ******* morons is hosting a ******* New Year’s ******* eve ******* party? I ******* better be ******* invited. My ******* dogs will ******* be with me too. So, there ******* better be some ******* good ******* snacks for them to ******* eat”

  192. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Diane Lane could do anything she wanted to with me…Even the wife thinks she’s hotter than lava

  193. I heard a scream that sounded sort of east of me, so I’m pretty sure Manny heard about Westgarth. Toughness crosses the boarder.

  194. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Canes could be making more moves…hmmm

    Flames have mcgratton and westgarth…look out slats likes Alberta

  195. Flames are going to send us McGratton in return for our agreeing to have camp in BANFFFF again next year.

  196. Carp has no idea what’s going on in the Rangers organization, let alone any other organization.

  197. Thanks for the concern, *Gravy* but *Wicky* texted me about the trade. Guess it was too *hard* for you to get your phone out and shoot a simple text. Some *chemistry* we have going on….

  198. It seems like we could have given up *Pyatt* and gotten some much needed *toughtness* and *grit* in Westgarth.

    Sather? Are you awake?

  199. Huricanes trade? Never mind MDZ. Let’s trade them Nash and Brassard for the Staal brothers. Now we’re talking.

  200. Rob in Beantown on

    I heard from a super *secret* source Joffrey Lupul wants to be a Ranger. Anybody interested?

  201. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hearing reports that Richards wants to run in the breeders cup. If he does, and hurts a hoof or leg, his contract becomes onerous.

  202. Any of you Boneheads ever thought: “Carp knows nothing”?

    His new avatar or whatever it’s called should answer that question.

  203. @RealKyper

    2nite speculation of #Canes Gleason to #Leafs doesn’t seem to want to go away. The obvious choice still would be Liles going the other way

  204. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Did anyone else notice that the rangers matriculated the puck pretty easily last night? Or was I the only one?

  205. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Torts – “get me some ******* players that are ******* willing to do whatever the **** is ******* necessary to ******* win some ******* games!!! And roll the ******* window down. It’s ******* hotter than a ******* inferno back here”

  206. The Rangers need to bring back the Kreider-Stepan-Zuccarello line. That line is the future 1st line of this team.

  207. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Pedestrians on the street see torts in his car seat moving thru traffic

    “Look it’s coach torts in his car seat…awwwww how cute”

    Torts – “roll the ******* windows up. Some ******* idiots walking the **** outside just ******* spotted me in my ******* car seat”

  208. Eddie, we need you to answer your secret question so that we know it is really you.

    Who is your favorite NHL owner?

  209. “8) Zuccarello, as I have been hollering for a while, is very simply their best forward and by far their most skilled power-play player. And he was, again, pretty darn good at even strength, too. Involved, competing. Using his speed.”

    Zucc for Captain.

  210. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Papa – you weary funny ferrow. Why you poke at wang? You raff a rot. Ha ha. Joke on you. He who raffs rast, raffs best.

  211. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    If it is liles for Gleason, mdz may move because two other possible trade d men get swapped

  212. ‘It happened in Monterey, a long time ago,
    I met her in Monterey, near old Mexico,
    Stars and steel guitars and luscious lips, as red as wine
    Broke somebody’s heart and I’m afraid that it was mine

  213. Wicky, Stepan is under contract and Kreider & Zucc are RFAs, so who is giving us picks and/or what potential trades are you talking about?

    I think it’s a good move to extend both Kreider and Zucc. They aren’t the problem with this team. They play skill hockey with speed and both play with an edge.

    This team has no depth. Not enough toughness or compete level. We need more Zuccarellos and Kreiders and less Brassards and Poulets.

  214. When I go to sleep, I never count sheep,
    I count all the charms about Linda.

    On the other hand, Carp is so cool that when he goes to sleep, the sheep count HIM.

    Caesar, we who are about to die, salute you!

  215. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    He speaks French in Chinese

    Statues salute him as he walks by

    His essence cannot be fabricated

    Stay thirsty my friends…

  216. e3, when I first saw your posts, I said, “Zowie, what a golfer!” I thought you were a local and playing St. Andrew’s here in Westchester. As Elvis said, “Now and then there’s a fool such as I.”

  217. Olga Folkyerself on

    Well no one told me about her
    the way she lied
    Well no one told me about her
    how many people cried
    But it’s too late to say you’re sorry
    How would I know why should I care
    Please don’t bother tryin’ to find her
    She’s not there

  218. ‘He is the bread and the knife,
    The crystal goblet and the wine.
    He is the dew on the morning grass
    And the burning wheel of the sun.
    He is the white apron on the baker
    And the marsh birds suddenly in flight’

    (courtesy of Billy Collins)

  219. Olga Folkyerself on

    {{{{LINDA}}}} I missed you…

    Some girls love to run around
    Love to handle everything they see
    But my girl has more fun around
    And you know she’d rather be with me

  220. Olga Folkyerself on

    Well there’s a rose in a fisted glove
    And the eagle flies with the dove
    And if you can’t be with the one you love, honey
    Love the one you’re with

  221. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Can you hear the sirens moan?
    White cane lying in the gutter in the lane,
    If you’re walking home alone…

  222. Olga Folkyerself on

    Come on, oh baby, don’t you wanna go?
    Come on, oh baby, don’t you wanna go
    Back to that same old place
    Sweet home Chicago

    Come on, baby, don’t you wanna go?
    Hida-hey, baby, don’t you wanna go?
    Back to that same old place
    Oh, sweet home Chicago

    Well, one and one is two
    Stanley Cups is great
    Come on, baby, don’t you make me wait

    Hida-hey, Stanley, don’t you wanna go?
    Back to that same old place
    Sweet home Chicago

  223. When they wear white gloves to carry the Cup out on the ice, the gloves are worn to protect their hands from the filthy thing.

  224. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    Nyr
    depends on whats out there, but if he needed to be in a deal to get patch or kane or stastny (i know he will be a UFA), I would sure as hell include stepan.

    If we get rid of Hagar, i have no problem keeping the hobbit. I just don’t see a reason to have both on the roster. We are too small as it is, especially in the top 6 forwards and really the top 9.

  225. McDonagh… the best guy on yhis team….

    Kreider….. Most potential on this team.

    Lundqvist……..Biggest salary.

    the rest are in danger…

  226. E3, still up late EST time because me and Mrs. Gravy watched three episodes. Into season four now. Awesome show.

  227. Manny, I have to *vibe* better with the texting :)

    Traid MZA while his value is high. Too much scoring on this team.

Leave A Reply

Protected with IP Blacklist CloudIP Blacklist Cloud