Rangers at Capitals tonight (7 p.m.) … pre-game notes

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Pre-game notes courtesy of the NYR:

NEW YORK RANGERS at WASHINGTON CAPITALS
Friday, Dec. 27, 7:00 p.m. ET
Verizon Center – Washington, D.C.
Rangers: 18-18-2 (38 pts)
Capitals: 19-14-4 (42 pts)

TONIGHT’S GAME
The Rangers will face-off against the Washington Capitals at Verizon Center (7:00p.m. — TV: MSG 2; Radio: Bloomberg Radio), to begin a five-game road trip. The Blueshirts rank fourth in the Metropolitan Division standings, and ninth in the Eastern Conference, with a record of 18-18-2 (38 pts). The Rangers enter the contest having defeated the Toronto Maple Leafs, 2-1, in the shootout on Monday at Madison Square Garden, to complete their franchise-record nine-game homestand (3-4-2). The Blueshirts are tied for fifth in the conference in ROW (16). The Capitals enter the contest with a 19-14-4 (42 pts) record to rank sixth in the Eastern Conference, and have lost three of their last four games. Following the contest, the Rangers will return to action when they face-off against the Tampa Bay Lightning on Sunday, Dec. 29, at Tampa Bay Times Forum (7:00 p.m.)

RANGERS vs. CAPITALS:
All-Time: 88-87-18-6 overall (48-39-9-3 at home; 40-48-9-3 on the road)
2013-14: Tonight is the third of four meetings this season, and the second of two meetings at Verizon Center. New York is 1-1-0 overall (0-1-0 at home; 1-0-0 on the road), following a 4-1 loss on Dec. 8 at Madison Square Garden.The Rangers penalty kill is 6-6 (100.0%) in the series. Ryan Callahan, John Moore, and Benoit Pouliot have each tallied a goal, while Brad Richards leads all skaters with two assists in two games. Henrik Lundqvist is 1-1-0 with a 2.00 GAA, .931 Sv%, and one shutout in the series.
Last Season: New York was 2-0-1 overall (1-0-1 at home; 1-0-0 on the road). Two of the three contests were decided by one goal, including one game that required the shootout. The Rangers out-scored the Capitals, 5-0, after the first period, and out-shot Washington, 102-81, in the series. The Blueshirts’ power play was 3-9 (33.3%), while their penalty kill was 9-10 (90.0%). Derek Stepan led all skaters with three goals, while Ryan McDonagh and Rick Nash tied for the series-high with three assists apiece. Carl Hagelin (one goal, two assists) and Brad Richards (one goal, two assists) also tallied three points in the series. Henrik Lundqvist was 1-0-1 with a 1.44 GAA and .942 Sv% in two games.
The Rangers have registered a point in nine of their last 12 meetings with the Capitals, dating back to a 7-0 win on Dec. 12, 2010. New York has posted an 8-3-1 record and has out-scored Washington, 37-23, during the stretch.
New York is 10-8-0 on the road; Washington is 12-8-1 at home
New York is 5-6-2 vs. Metropolitan Division opponents; Washington is 8-5-1 vs. Metropolitan Division opponents

INDIVIDUAL CAREER LEADERS vs. CAPITALS:
Henrik Lundqvist – 26 GP, 15-8-3, 4 SO, 2.61 GAA
Brad Richards – 55 GP, 9-31–40
Ryan Callahan – 23 GP, 10-7–17
Rick Nash – 13 GP, 7-8–15
Dan Girardi – 25 GP, 0-7–7

SPECIAL TEAMS:
The Rangers’ power play is 10-47 (21.3%) in the last 14 games … Have tallied two or more power play goals in five games this season … Is tied for third in the league with three goals in 5-on-3 situations … The Blueshirts’ penalty kill has held opponents scoreless in 15 of the last 21 games (50-56, 89.3% over the span).
Power Play: The Rangers were 0-4 (6:51) on Monday vs. Toronto. New York ranks 13th in the NHL overall (24-129, 18.6%), and seventh on the road (13-57, 22.8%). The Rangers are 3-12 (5:58) in five-on-three situations (last – 12/23 vs. TOR), and 0-3 (3:55) when four-on-three (last – 12/20 vs. NYI). Shorthanded goals allowed (5): 10/8 at SJS (Vlasic); 10/24 at PHI (Read); 11/19 vs. BOS (Paille); 12/20 vs. NYI (Clutterbuck, PS); 12/20 vs. NYI (Grabner).
Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts were 4-4 (7:05) on Monday vs. Toronto. New York ranks sixth in the NHL overall (100-117, 85.5%), and sixth on the road (51-59, 86.4%). The Rangers are 2-4 (3:25) in three-on-five situations (last – 12/20 vs. NYI), and 4-6 (4:29) when three-on-four (last – 12/15 vs. CGY). Shorthanded goals for (1): 10/7 at LAK (McDonagh).
Four-on-Four: New York did not tally/yield a goal in three four-on-four situations (5:55) on Monday vs. Toronto, and are now -1 in 44 four-on-four situations (68:39) this season. Four-on-four goals for (4): 10/16 at WSH (J. Moore); 10/26 at DET (Brassard); 12/12 vs. CBJ (Girardi); 12/18 vs. PIT (Hagelin). Four-on-four goals allowed (5): 10/3 at PHX (Vrbata); 10/7 at LAK (Muzzin); 10/12 at STL (Backes); 12/8 vs. WSH (Grabovski, PS); 12/18 vs. PIT (Sutter).

SHOOTING GALLERY: The Blueshirts have out-shot their opponent in six of the last seven games (tied on shots in the seventh game), and hold a 230-177 shot advantage over their opponents during the stretch. New York out-shot Toronto, 43-26, in their 2-1 shootout victory on Monday at Madison Square Garden, including a 22-5 advantage in the second period. It was the fourth time this season the Rangers posted 40 or more shots in a game, and the first time the Rangers had at least 22 shots in a single period since Jan. 27, 2010 against Carolina (22 shots in the Second Period). The Rangers have now registered 30 or more shots in eight of the last 11 games.

RINGMASTERS: The Rangers have won 348-656 faceoffs (53.0%) through 11 games in the month of December, including a season-high, 41 faceoff wins (41-64, 64%), in a 3-1 victory on Dec. 5 at Buffalo. Derek Stepan has won a team-high, 113 faceoffs over the span, while Brad Richards (61-113, 54.0%), Dominic Moore (61-94, 64.9%), Derick Brassard (51-98, 52.0%), and Brian Boyle (48-80, 60.0%) have each won better than 52% of their faceoffs taken during the month.

MILESTONE MATS: Mats Zuccarello tallied a power play assist on Dec. 20 against the NY Islanders to establish a single-season career-high in scoring with his 24th point of the season. He has recorded 15 points (six goals, nine assists) in the last 16 games, and leads the team in scoring with 25 points (eight goals, 17 assists) in the last 30 games since his healthy scratch on Oct. 24 at Philadelphia. Zuccarello is currently tied for first on the team in assists (17), third in goals (eight), and ranks second in points (25) overall this season.

WESTERN SHOOTOUT: The Rangers have required the shootout in three of their last five games after being the only team in the NHL to not participate in a shootout in their first 33 contests of the season. The Blueshirts’ 4-3 shootout victory against the Calgary Flames on Dec. 15 at Madison Square Garden ended a stretch of 41 regular season games without a shootout, with their last shootout being on Apr. 10, 2013 vs. Toronto (3-2 SO win). New York tallied four shootout goals in seven rounds in their win against Calgary, tying a franchise record for most goals in a single shootout (3-2 SO win on Nov. 25, 2005 vs. Washington – 15 rounds; 3-2 SO win on Jan. 2, 2007 at New Jersey – eight rounds). Lundqvist is now 46-31 all-time in shootouts, ranking second in the NHL all-time in shootout wins (Ryan Miller, 47 shootout wins).

MILESTONES IN SIGHT: Derick Brassard – 2 points from 200th NHL career

INJURIES (73 Man-Games Lost):
Marc Staal (IR – concussion on 12/7, out indefinitely) – 8
Ryan Callahan (IR – sprained MCL on 12/10, 4 weeks) – 6

Photo by Scott Levy/Getty Images.

 

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  1. Good morning, boneheads!

    Let’s see how they play tonight. That would be an indication of whether they’re starting to get their game back, as many if us thought it was the case. Not so much the result, but the way they play.

    Oops, sorry Eric! Must win :-)

  2. Stranger Nation on

    Must play with speed to win
    Must have puck to play with speed
    Must win face-offs and board battles to get puck
    Must pass well to maintain possession of puck
    Must hustle to be in position to get puck

    Must hustle to win

  3. Oh. Thanks, ilb. I guess we have to wait for tomorrow to see what mayhem Mr. Sather is *cooking* up.

  4. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    *Authorben @ December 26th, 2013 at 8:21 PM:*
    Building from the goal on out as a means to success is your opinion. Employing Fuhr as an example of a go-to-guy between the pipes is fallacious. Stating that a team needs a go-to-guy between the pipes to sustain a long-standing contender ignores two facts. First fact is, teams throughout history, such as Fuhr’s Oilers and current regime of the Blackhawks, have sustained success without _go to guys between the pipes_. The Bruins were able to transition from Tim Thomas to Tuukka Rask without any decline. Second fact is, with Hanka Hanka as the go-to-guy for the past several seasons, the Rangers have remained mediocre pretenders. While that is not an indication that Hanka Hanka is at fault or will not contribute to a Stanley Cup during his Rangers tenure, it is worth noting.

  5. Agree on Skjei, Latona. I was able to watch the entire game and I liked what I saw. Steady. Good skater.

  6. Agreed, Booby. I didn’t really notice him make any mistakes, one of my favorite qualities in a blueliner.

  7. in the lockout shortened season of 95, Richter had the same type of season Hank is having now. in the playoffs that year Richter was benched in favor of Glen Healy after game 1 in the first round. he took over again during game 4, and went on to play reasonably well for the rest of the playoffs.

  8. Stranger Nation on

    _The amazing coach that got fired by the same organ-EYE-zation TWICE_
    Torts is to Billy Martin as Slatsko is to Heilbrenner??
    3rd time a charm??

  9. been to the Verizon Center about 20 times the last 3 yrs. Excellent venue and passionate fans. Had seasons for the Rangers for over 20yrs and its hard to say but oh so true. The crowd blows away MSG…painful from where i grew up. Bruce was right. Decent fans, whine a little bit to much on every call but decent. Better than listening to Debbie’s (the worst) or philly or the ice chicks for that matter.

  10. Stranger, I was thinking the same thing … that Billy Torts makes it three when AV goes.

    hedberg, the noise level at the renovated MSG isn’t even close to Verizon (though there were rumors of noise being pumped in at Verizon).

    as for whiners, I think Pitt’s home fans are the worst.

  11. Keep this in mind. Average ticket prices 2013 per Forbes..

    New York Rangers – Avg Price: $232.93

    Washington Capitals – Avg Price: $126.21

  12. Carp:

    It has been a steady 25 year decline in noise at MSG since they tore down 1/3 of blue seats in late 80’s.

    When I take my son I always tell him it is hard to believe this is the same building I grew up in.

  13. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Carp,
    How many Pittsburgh home games have you attended in recent years?

  14. Cap, I remember when I first started in the biz, how the building shook, even after a good penalty kill. Lupica wrote a whole column about it in the late 70s or early 80s calling it “The Monster.”

    No more.

  15. Game six against Isles in ’79 the loudest even louder then game 7 cup.

    By 1994 they had exploding scoreboards drowning out real noise from fans.

  16. Carp:

    That’s why you are the best and a fun read and follow.

    You bring perspective that not many others can.

  17. Rob in Beantown on

    I thought it’d be Hank, but the team really does look much better in front of Talbot so I guess it’s not a bad decision.

  18. I couldn’t care less. Hank has been terrible and needs to pull his beautiful, flawless head out of his rump. Until then, ride the winner.

  19. @NYP_Brooksie

    Talbot will get third consecutive start tonight. First time healthy Lundqvist back-up for three straight since early 06/07.

  20. I don’t buy the team plays better in front of Talbot bit. I think Talbot is playing better behind them. having said that, they are not going anywhere till Hank finds his game.

  21. I am going to go throw up all over *Twitter* and it’s stupid Advanced stats that claim *Stralman* is a good defenseman. Because he’s not.

  22. CapGeek indicates Lundquist has a NMC in his new deal.

    Does this means he can’t be traded unless he approves?

  23. Remember the horrible start/slump/ first half Jeter had several years back, when half of Yankee nation was saying he was finished?

    I think he ended up the year hitting over .300.

  24. There was some talk yesterday about when that NMC actually kicks in. I think it’s after this season.

  25. Rob in Beantown on

    The NMC doesn’t kick in until next year, but can he still be traded if he signed a new contract with the Rangers which begins next year? I don’t understand how that would work

  26. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _they are not going anywhere till Hank finds his game._

    That is not true.

    The Rangers need *a* goalie to perform. It does not matter which goalie.

  27. That’s interesting Manny.

    Even it it were true, would there be a team willing to pick up his new contract with a full NMC?

    Maybe the Flyers, Caps or Penguins?

  28. Kenneth,
    you are correct with that. but I am not yet a believer that Talbot can do this for the full season. that is why I think they need Hank to find his game.

  29. Hank is a Ranger for life. the only way that changes is if Carp says that Hank is a Ranger for life, then he will be traded the very next day. :)

  30. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _I am not yet a believer that Talbot can do this for the full season. that is why I think they need Hank to find his game._

    I value logical opinions differing from my own. (:

  31. And I’m sorry the more AV sits Hank the less of a fan I am. The guy needs to play through it and get his A game on. Not work harder in practice. No offense, Carp.

  32. Maybe they are showcasing Talbot. Hank underperforming helps us have a bit of leverage in a trade as we can pretend we need Talbot.

  33. Who, Sioux? Stralman!? No way! If I had to have one on my team I would take McILrath every day of the week. I *Hate* and *loathe* Stralman.

  34. Talbot is playing extremely well right now. I would ride him until he loses. Nice reward for a young goaltender, and nothing wrong with pushing Hank to be better.

    The hot hand should always get the starting glove.

  35. Stralman can skate better than the rusty truck, has more experience, more points, more …..

    Outside of the tough element what does McBust have over Stralman?

  36. I don’t really care about experience or points. Obviously he has more points, he’s old (and bald).

    Stralman literally cannot make decisions, is super soft against the boards and in the corners, is not that good of a skater, loves to HIP CHECK and just genreally gets beaten over and over because of his lack of physicality.

  37. Fine, not literally. I haven’t had my lunch yet, I’m hungry and I really, really hate Stralman and think he’s awful and encompasses everything that is wrong with this team.

  38. As I have said over and over again, Physicality can make up for skating ability. Plenty of D-Men have made it in the NHL without wheels like McDonagh or John Moore. McIlrath can drop the puck carrier at the blue line.

  39. And I’m ALL FOR McBust being our *Violent Gentleman* I am.

    I just don’t want him costing us games.

  40. only in NY would people want their franchise goalie to struggle so they could hurry up and trade him lol. I’m all for riding a hot hand or letting this kid get some experience because he’s earned it but if the ship is going to get righted here they need to let their #1 guy play. We’ve seen this scenario work out so well with other teams right?

  41. Skating ability, while important, seems to be highly overrated especially on NHL ice. There isn’t that much room out there so if D-Men are playing their position they can, most times, negate speed by being physical or properly positioned.

    Not to say that speed isn’t amazing and awesome and a big bonus, but not EVERY single D-Man and player has to have it at an elite level.

  42. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    James – right now the rangers need points. Soothing Hank’s ego or letting him work through whatever ails him is secondary to what’s best for the team. Practice is where you iron the kinks out – not live action. How anyone could say Tam doesn’t deserve the start isn’t thinking objectively. The kid is 3rd in the league in save %, whereas Hank is 36th.

    Do the math

  43. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _only in NY would people want their franchise goalie to struggle so they could hurry up and trade him_

    Only in NY would people would want the Rangers successful #2 goalie to stink to get the currently under-performing #1 guy playing again.

  44. Everyone has a point here. James has a definite point. The issue is our new coach who seems to have *goaltender controversy* follow him wherever he goes.

  45. Fowler – Top 25 defenseman in the NHL. (check out the Fantasy Rankings for him)

    McBust – Top 25 Fighting defenseman in the AHL. He’s a borderline tuff guy. Will forever be a 7th dman on a team, we will need against the Flyers.

  46. Hank’s flat right now. He’s not his old “shutout” self. He’s not.

    If Talbot can pull off a rookie run of wins I let him ring up as many as he can in a row. (I.E. Jones in LA)

    Seriously, If Hank had to sit 10 GAMES in a row, because Talbot kept winning games. (Someone would still complain :)

  47. I’m all for points. just don’t know how many they’ll getin the long run if/when Talbot cools off if Lundqvist isn’t effective.

  48. I pull for the guy Manny I do.

    But he’s forever McBust for me. Rangers should have drafted Fowler, he was the best DMan available.

    I rank his draft pick right up there with Jessiman > Parise. I do.

  49. Fowler is garbage (no offense). I like the upside of the youngster. Wait and see….wait and see….

  50. nah Sioux I rarely complain. And I certainly wont do such while the team is winning. If this kid goes on a tear ride it for all it’s worth obviously. I just don’t know how long it will keep up – none of us do.

  51. Gordie wanted a “Tuff Guy” project, and that’s what they have.

    Now, I’ll be first to eat crow. But until then I’m eating Baby Buffalo Steaks :)

  52. don’t really have a problem with Talbot playing since:

    (a) he’s looked better this season than Ludnqvist
    (b) Lundqvist was on a pace to start something like 70 games and it’s better if he’s in the low 60s

    but it’s a bit strange that after a long layoff and supposedly being committed to Lundqvist that the coach would start the back-up again

  53. Manny I’m all about old time hockey, you know that.

    But I’ll take ANY of the top 25 guys in Fantasy hockey, at any position, than what we have on the Rangers team.

    Do the Rangers even have 1 NHL player in the top 25 right now?

    I don’t think so.

    You have 1 player over Fowler, Shattenkirk.

  54. Matty"We'reAbunchOfCreamPuffs!!"Boy on

    Hello Boneheads! Hope everyone that celebrates it had a Merry Christmas!!

  55. Sounds like DuPuis is done for the season. Another loss for the Penguins.

    Fowler isn’t garbage, I’m just being a total baby because I *want* McIlrath on the team playing physical and I wish the Rangers were playing a different style of hockey. Sorry. I lost my composure.

  56. McDonagh ranks 42 right now. Fowler ranks 23.

    Granted its fantasy points/ rankings.

    But right now I’ll take any of the top 25 over what we have on the ice right now.

    McBust isn’t even in the top 200.

  57. Manny I get it. I want Kristo scoring goals for us.

    It’s frustrating watching our team lose.

    More frustrating when I wanted them to draft Parise.

    Now I just want them to play the “Parise ’04” Model. (Fighting Sioux Point Leader)

  58. McLlrath has only played in *2* NHL games. He’s not going to be ranked in Fantasy.

    I don’t care what fantasy hockey has to say about a lot of these guys. This is also in our league where a bunch of additional stats are factored in.

    McDonagh > Fowler

  59. I think you’d have to be clinically insane to want Cam Fowler on your NHL team over Ryan McDonagh

  60. The pens could lose half there roster still have better record then rangers.

    Have no issue with talbot however expecting a beat down.

  61. to address Manny’s earlier point about skating ability being overrated or whatever

    there’s a huge gulf between “skating ability” and not being able to skate at all. right now McIlrath is sitting far closer to the latter than you ever want to see from an NHL defenseman.

  62. Jeter is going to hit .300 this year – slugging average .300. oohhhhh. Not nice. Well, the compensation for that is the fact that he will look like a facile stone monument for range at shortstop, instead of merely like a crater or a sieve.

    Go Yanquis! Only 15 players on roster signed up with AARP, so far this off-season. You can do it, Boys, we are with you, our “Summertime Rangers.”

  63. NMC/NTC clarification, for people who are interested.

    A. It only applies to a contract that a said player is currently playing under. If a player signs his next contract wth NMC/NTC, the clause doesn’t kick in until the new contract starts. Hank is currently playing out his 6 year, $41.25M contract that has no NMC or NTC. His NMC doesn’t start until July 1 when his next contract starts.

    B. In some cases, even if a player signs a contract with NTC or NMC, the clause can not kick in until said player becomes an UFA eligible. Current rule- 7 seasons in NHL ( cumulative), or 27 year old. For example, McDonagh’s current contract has a modified NTC. That clause isn’t applicable until 2016-17 season when McD becomes UFA eligible. Interesting to note that if McD is traded before his NTC starts, his new team isn’t obligated to honor it.

    C. NMC in Hank’s case is a relative thing. If he becomes a back up, how long until he asks for a trade? Very unlikely scenario. He will be choosing where he wants to go though.

    D. Nobody is trading Hank. :-)

  64. Manny that’s my POINT.

    Fowler is playing his 4th year, and is in the top 25.

    Who has more value right now?

  65. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets his shutout tonight. That would make it impossible for AV to pull him for the next game.

  66. fantasy rankings mean everything. the Rangers should trade McD, for Fowler based off those rankings!

  67. YUP!

    Better to have some on the team than none at all.

    McD is the only one in the top 50. We sure could use a few more like him.

    I’ll say this. I would rather have Fowler > Del Zotto right now.

    And I would take Fowler > McBust everyday, and twice on Sunday!!!

  68. Bring your gun.

    You can shoot the Fowl right out of the air, unless your Del Zotto you have no chance of hitting anything :)

  69. Holy shishkebob:

    @ESPNStatsInfo

    On this date in 1981, Wayne Gretzky became the fastest player in NHL history to reach 100 points in a season (38 games).

  70. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Gretzky did not play defense or have *toughness*. I would rather have Brian Boyle. (;

  71. You think Nash would be that good if he had Semenko? Just kidding. No one is even close to the same planet as Gretzky. Closest is Crosby.

    Dave Semenko is an awesome guy though. His stories and the pride that he takes in having something to do with Gretzky is something.

    It’s a taste of what the Rangers need. Playable toughness that can play in the top 6 and protect the big goal scorers.

  72. carp, hope you and everyone here had a Merry Christmas. We are having in between Christmas and New Years Let’s Get Together annual party at jpg and my parents. hope to catch some of the game. Let’s Go NYR

  73. _It’s a virtual free skate in here. Where is everybody?_

    Saw a tweet where Vigneault made frequenting RR optional today.

  74. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Playable toughness that can play in the top 6_

    Alex Ovechkin?

  75. That’s correct, Manny. Getting them is *optional*. Coach’s choice. Reading them is *optional*. Our choice.

  76. Man. Life is so much *easier* with Vigneault around. Finally a job that I *don’t* have to show up to but get paid *7 Figures* for.

  77. I like the Talbot start. If he continues to play well he only increases his value for his ultimate trade. It also sends a valuable lesson to Lundqvist – while he might of signed a massive contract he’s got to earn his ice time like everyone else.

  78. Papa had a Rosen nose
    Wherever he laid his schnozz was his home
    And when he left, all he left us was Giannone.

    (to be sung to Papa Was a Rolling Stone)

  79. Manny does Brad “Easy Breezey” Richards play next to Montster NO NASH? 38 games played and you can count the hits on 1 hand :)

  80. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _I’m like Sather. I play hockey with a Cigar & a flask!_

    Is cigar a euphemism?

  81. Nope! It’s the only time I get out and play, then sit and smoke a cigar while I rest :) Flask is to warm up the inside.

  82. Kenny – I think it took my son to get to about 8, and I couldn’t keep up with him anymore. So I don’t even try :)

  83. Now I play hockey like Sather.

    From the boards, with a Cigar, a flask, and the other Fathers.

  84. ilb,
    Semenko did play some with Gretzky, when necessary. I think the one true enforcer who played on the top line was Clark Gilles.

  85. Afternoon all,

    Kenneth,

    All things considered, I’ll still take the position of a GM who built a team that won 4 straight Cups and 19 straight playoff series.

    And BTW, without Billy Smith, the Fishsticks don’t win 4 in a row. Therein lies the importance of the “go-to” guy between the pipes.

    Nothing fallacious about that.

  86. Smith made the big saves at the big time. that is what playoff goaltending is about. but if your goalie is the best player on the team, chances are you are not winning the cup. Smith was not the Isles best player.

  87. That argument, to me, says the Rangers need more top-line, top-pair talent than it says you can’t win with your goalie being the best player. Dryden, Parent, Fuhr, Smith all played with Hall of Famers in front of them.

  88. It’s just proof that Hockey is a *team* sport and not an individual sport. It takes a *team* buying into an *identity* and working as a cohesive *unit* with the requisite *chemistry*

  89. there are exceptions of course Carp. Hasek taking the Sabres to the finals, and Roy’s 2 cups with Montreal. they were both the best players on there team. but for the most part skill wins.

  90. Stranger Nation on

    Airing of grievances over, now to see some feats of strength tonight.
    Preferably by the Rangers, but who?

  91. Stranger Nation on

    And down the stretch he comes, Mr Ed in the lead with Green Flu following closely, next is Two Concussions and then Dallas Days. Falling back is Stanley Hart with Lightning Bolts in stride, PEI Muscle Days trailing the pack.

  92. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _That argument, to me, says the Rangers need more top-line, top-pair talent than it says you can’t win with your goalie being the best player_

    The argument is that a team does not need a great goalie or the goalie to be the team’s best player in order to win. There are a variety of ways to win. Some ways are more prudent than others.

  93. Stranger Nation on

    Main Entry: Green flu
    Pronunciation: greeen \?flü\
    Function: noun
    1: ‘affluenza’ 2: any of several diseases caused by Slatsko awarding star UFA’s with contracts no sane GM would ever give a past their prime NHL stars; symptoms can include lack of effort, model dating and boring post game quotes after disheartening losses;
    symptoms—see Sather UFA Signings; Gomez, Drury, Redden, et al.

  94. if the goalie is the best player on the team, the team isn’t going to be very good and definitely not winning a stanely cup.

  95. except that bull dog just gave two examples of goalies who were the best on their team … Roy twice won the Cup and Hasek, who came within an incorrectly disallowed goal of a Cup.

  96. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Torts – “get me the **** out of this ******* car seat before I ******* rip somebody’s head right the **** off”

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