Rangers-Penguins in review

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Thoughts:

1) As you know, I completely agree with what Brad Richards said post-game. That you don’t judge how a team played in a hockey game based on the coin-flip that is the skills competition. Because, as you know, I always maintain that it’s not part of the hockey game, and that if the Rangers had won the gimmick contest, you’d all feel much better about your team today. You would.Pittsburgh Penguins v New York Rangers You shouldn’t feel any differently, whichever way you felt before the shootout.

2) That said, this sure wasn’t the Rangers best game of the season, but it was also far from their worst. A lot of players are better the last two games than they had been for a while, when there were a pile of ghosts. Now there are only a few. And we’ll get to that in a minute. The glass-half-full part is that, two games in a row now, the Rangers have come back in the third period to force OT (and then a tie-breaking gimmick). That shows some fortitude. I’m not ready to compare this team’s character to 2011-12’s team by any stretch. But any character looks good on a team that had shown almost none for a couple of weeks.

3) The biggest friendly ghost is Rick Nash. One of the Pittsburgh columnists tweeted that Nash is a dog. Just awful. Can’t stay upright (did he catch Dubinsky Disease?). Won’t go to areas where he might get a pass and fire a shot. Won’t go near contact (he actually had a first-period hit, a legit hit, his third of the season, which is two more than Jaromir Jagr, who right now is about three times the player Nash is). If it’s the concussions, that’s pretty frightening. If it’s not the concussions, that’s even more frightening.

4) That overtime power play. It had some chances. It did. Richards can’t shoot that puck five feet wide, just can’t, not 5-on-4, but especially not 4-on-3 when not only is it almost certain to come out of the zone, but it could very well be an odd-man break the other way. Worse, much worse, was Nash drifting backward near the left point until he actually took himself completely out of the offensive one, while the Rangers had the puck, on a power play! WTB? Pittsburgh Penguins v New York Rangers

5) And, anyway, Mats Zuccarello is the best power-play player the Rangers have, and he couldn’t get a shot there? Derick Brassard and Chris Kreider have been good on the power play all year. They were stapled to the bench, too. I don’t get it. The power play’s been much better this year, but that power play left me scratching my head. And don’t forget, Brassard had scored the PPG that forced OT. Kreider didn’t play a shift in OT.

6) Ryan McDonagh was so good vs. Sidney Crosby. McDonagh’s only bad moment was when he lost his stick and he chased the puck up the wall, and Derek Stepan didn’t cover for him as Pascal Dupuis, wide-open, buried Crosby’s pass (Dan Girardi doing the snow angel). To that point, Stepan had made  two or three fabulous defensive plays, one to prevent Crosby fromn getting a hack at a rebound early on

Pittsburgh Penguins v New York Rangers7) Henrik Lundqvist. Was really good in the shootout this time … until the Sutter GWG. Was really good in regulation, too … If you want to complain, because I know a lot of you complain about all the goals he allows, maybe you can complain about the back-hander on which Sutter scored after he went right around Michael Del Zotto on the 4-on-4 to make it 3-1.

8) I said it in the comments shortly before those two Pittsburgh goals in 1:01, that I know it will come back and bite me in the butt, but Michael Del Zotto was having a pretty strong game. As one of our main Boneheads, Latona, then replied. “Chomp.” Before that, I thought Del Zotto had a good response when that Penguin whose name I can’t spell gave Lundqvist a snow shower. Del Zotto crosschecked him in the back, right down to the ice. Good for him. And good for the refs, who were otherwise sub-standard (which is becoming the new standard), to call the unsportsmanlike penalty for the snow shower. Carl Hagelin then scored on the 4-on-4 that resulted. So good response all around.

9) On the other hand, I thought the non-response after Chris Kunitz steamrolled Lundqvist was rather pathetic. At least it required a facewash and some nastiness.

10) The Rangers sure do give up a lot of goals right around the goalmouth. On the 1-0 goal, hey, it’s a power play and Derek Dorsett broke his stick, so it’s 5-on-3 essentially. And still, Girardi is laying face down in the crease when Chris Kunitz puts in his own rebound. If he’s on his feet, maybe he can prevent it, or knock Kunitz on his keyster. I really am not a big fan of the snow angel.

Pittsburgh Penguins v New York Rangers11) And I haven’t even gotten to the fact, yet, that Pittsburgh was missing literally half it’s regular lineup, including one of the best players in the world, five of six regular defensemen, and most of its muscle. The Penguins have won five in a row and 10 of 11. This kinda shows how far above the rest of the Lesstropolitan Division the Pens really are. And they are running away with it, using half a team.

12) I thought, overall, Richards continues to be better lately. Stepan too, Brassard definitely. I thought Dorsett deserved more shifts — he had a bunch of hits and was involved all night. Hagelin’s been really good for two games in a row, even though he was right back on the fourth line until he was promoted during the game. John Moore’s been a lot better lately. Hey, it’s two decent games in a row for Benoit Pouliot, too. On the other hand, you have Nash, and you have Anton Stralman, who’s really fighting it, among others.

13) The Islanders come in for their Stanley Cup Game 7 Friday.

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My Three Rangers Stars:Pittsburgh Penguins v New York Rangers
1. Carl Hagelin.
2. Mats Zuccarello.
3. Ryan McDonagh.
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Kenny Albert’s Three Rangers Stars:
1. Mats Zuccarello.
2. Carl Hagelin.
3. John Moore.
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Your poll vote for Three Rangers Stars:
1. Carl Hagelin.
2. tie, Mats Zuccarello, Henrik Lundqvist.
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  1. Gaborik trade, which I hated, looked pretty good last night. All three parts contributed, esp. JMoore. Sather purring.

  2. Good review Carp, spot on. They could have folded at 3-1 so I guess I’m thrilled with the point. Not so thrilled with the teams lack of “team” and with AV’s inability to use the tools he’s been given. I remain unimpressed with this coach.
    Also getting more than a little frustrated with Nash’s game. I mean the guy isn’t paid 8 mil a year to suck but it sure seems like it.

  3. Take the point….and run! Two games in a row they came back from 2-goals down..that hasn’t been a part of our DNA this year…until now. As Carp said before this latest tailspin …we had the kind of wins that preclude a losing streak…so maybe this is the kind of loss that precludes some W’s

  4. its great that MDZ is back on the left side. he sure looked good when Sutter undressed him.
    calling a timeout to keep that power play unit on the ice was dumb. Kreider needed to be out there. Zucc needed to be out there.

  5. Good morning, boneheads!

    Nice, Carp. I, too, hope the last two games could be a sign they’re coming out of this funk and will start winning some games.

    Rick Nash should strongly consider whether he needs to sit this season out. Painful to watch.

  6. MDZ had his ice time cut last night. John Moore picked the extra, and I thought he was pretty good. the problem with Nash last night was AV. as bad as Nash was, AV kept putting him out there. he played over 20 minutes. and I guess Boyle’s 8 minutes were against Crosby, right.

  7. I think AV is following the ‘give him more minutes to get it going’ kind of treatment, or at least hope he pre-occupies defenders and creates space for his linemates.

    I haven’t watch it in full yet, but will tonight so I can’t pass comment on specific incidents in the game. But, wouldn’t we have settled for a (Bettman Bonus) point a couple of games ago?

  8. I haven’t checked this in a long time, but I can say that early this season AV, same as his predecessor, was NOT giving Hags any PP time. With all the PP struggles this team has suffered, it has not made sense to me that Hags has never really been given a shot, here, to see what he brings to the mix.

    Here is a man with demonstrated short-handed skills, so why the assumption that he cannot make a contribution with a man advantage? It seems coaches like to just “pigeonhole” players, as “role players” with limited all-around skills, before a player’s “limitations” have actually been established.

    There are enough guys who are “bust” where the Rangers PP is concerned. Why not give Hags a shot, especially when you have nothing to lose? So what if he doesn’t measure up, how would that render him lesser than several other players on this team, in that regard? But what if he does measure up? You send him back to Hartford or trade him or something?

    Christ, AV or somebody, roll the damn dice just for the hell of it, once in a blue moon. Nobody craps out all the time.

  9. Longbeard Since 1994 on

    Nice review, Carp. Dead on as usual. The last two power plays with no shots on goal. Someone (AV) has to take responsibility for the team getting the puck on net and banging in rebounds. Not pretty, but better than waiting for the perfect shot. Clean slate: Shoot the puck..

  10. Wow, we elected three europansies as the stars of the game….

    Have we traded any snow angels yet?

  11. A/V think the prescription for Nash’s stickiness is more minutes. Seriously, scratch him Friday. Just astounding to watch this drop of his.

  12. Definitely better. I thought they took the man a lot more this game than they have in the past, which is a positive sign. Stick checking cannot be their only line of defense. I thought Hank had a strong game and can’t really fault him on any of the regulation goals. They STILL don’t take wide open shots and try and make the perfect pass. At least three times near the goalmouth rather than shoot, they tried to make a cross pass and it failed. Shoot and force a rebound.

    It just shows with smart drafting and shrewed trades how a team can be successful year after year despite not finishing in lottery territory. Pittsburgh and Boston, the two best teams in the East have proven that.

  13. Matty"We'reAbunchOfCreamPuffs!!"Boy on

    Great review, Carp. And if it hasn’t been said, your review the morning after is as much a part of the game as the game is. Actually, it is more fun than the game this year, sadly.

    Point 11: Just my point. NIce to get a point, but the point is it was against one good line and an average defenseman plus their AHL team. The point is, it’s nice to come back, etc., but not so fast. Last game. This game, was against NOBODY. Let’s see what it’s like against maybe even half a team’s NHL roster, or ….gosh…even more!!

    Get my point???

  14. Matty"We'reAbunchOfCreamPuffs!!"Boy on

    Speaking of points, Richard’s point play on that OT PP was laughable. You can’t tell me a true pro doesn’t know he needs to get the puck on net from that angle. Is he, all of a sudden, dumb or dumber??? Or just not athletic? I don’t get it.

  15. Matty"We'reAbunchOfCreamPuffs!!"Boy on

    Add Pittsburgh to a long list of teams that, after playing us once, knows it can manhandle the ‘girls with the pink panties’. That Kunitz ‘run’ at Henrique was designed, even if he did try to avoid.

    Story, Step, it’s not a good time to stand along the boards in a bunch, pretending you are ‘protecting’ your coveted helpless just hit best player’ by telling stories.

    Reminiscent of Girardi in Philly after Gabby gets creamed.

    A real GM makes changes off of that and that alone.

    Patsies. Cream puffs. Women.

  16. Matty"We'reAbunchOfCreamPuffs!!"Boy on

    CCCP had a great point last night, that Torts did not get us to the playoffs his first year. True. Guess, as painful as it is, this guy, or some new regime needs time. That’s fair.

    Yet, Torts was given less. And dammit, he rather quickly got the guys to play with fire in their eyes and passion, OR you’re gone. There is NONE of that here. AV should hand everyone a daisy before they set foot on the ice.

  17. Stranger Nation on

    Glad that Nash and Richards can be role-models for our younger players and show how to play hard and be accountable.

    Sheesh or is it Yeesh?

  18. Kristo called up yet? on

    Lets face it, this team is a .500 team or below.

    Rangers did play better, but lets face it they lost to an AHL team with Crosby on it.

  19. Kristo called up yet? on

    Not only is Nash a dog this year, he is a Dog with fleas.

    Fleas anything close to making a hit.
    Fleas area’s on the ice he can score.
    Fleas any space that he might block a shot.

    Nash is softer than Gaborik, and he never use to be.

    I itch just thinking about his game.

  20. Agree with your write up Carp especially Richards not hitting the net and Girardi sliding on the ice.(every game I am screaming at the tv to no avail)

    I assume Richards (if he is not hurt) will be bought at the end of the year now that Henrick is signed to a big contract.

    Girardi should be traded since I believe he is a free agent at the end of the year. He was a much stronger player under Torts system than AV’s in my opinion.

  21. The biggest differnce between Torts and AV – Torts changed his system to fit the team when he came to the Rangers. AV is trying to fit the team to his system – and it is a team that can’t play his system.

  22. Nice review.

    I was at the game last night and the point about Nash was spot on. My friend and I both raised it during the game multiple times where you could see him on the outside of the play just floating. I don’t see how he makes team Canada the way he’s playing.

    Another thing that surprised us was that the Rangers didn’t keep the tempo up. Playing what was essentially an AHL defense you would have thought they’d use Hagelin and Kreider’s speed to really pressure that inexperienced D into making plays. They didn’t and I thought it was a testament to poor coaching that the Pens wound up with more shots.

    Speaking of coaching, Vigneault needs to get these guys to finish checks more often. On the forecheck and against a young D. Particularly the big guys like Kreider, who seems to have good games when he plays with more reckless abandon and Boyle, who for the life of me I can’t figure out why this guy won’t use his size and guarantee himself a roster spot in this league for the rest of his career.

    The scorer at MSG is always generous with the Rangers hit statistics but last night, jeez, no one played physical. Dorsett got credited for 7 hits which sounds right, same with Stephan although I don’t remember any of them so that seems high. Next came Nash at 4 hits, again where were those? The rest of the forwards had 1-2-3 hits which leaves you wondering – out of 20 shifts a game – how did they only throw a check once or twice?

    No wonder this team is so easy to play against….

  23. Carp we need a pregame poll so we can vote on the players we feel would be the “game changers” or “stars”… It’d be funny to compare pregame vs. player who actually show up?

  24. Kristo called up yet? on

    I’m hoping Nash makes team Cananda.

    It will make it a little easier for team USA :)

  25. I loved how under Torts every team knew they were going to claw and fight for every inch of ice. Whether the NYR won or lost, at least you knew the other team was going away sore! Now the other team leaves with not even a bruise…

  26. Not at all as sensitive to announcers as others, but I thought last night’s call by Doc, Sleepy and Dopey was pretty appalling and transparently one-sided.

    Nash is playing scared — symptoms? Richards to me is regressing badly, and it all comes back to his skating. Lots of snow-plowing, getting the puck and spreading his feet rather than staying on the tips of his blades.

  27. Kristo called up yet? on

    This team needs a spark!

    Cut the dead weight.

    Call up someone that can help WIN games.

  28. 2. If it is the concussions, (1) its totally understandable and (2) he needs to be smart enough to pull himself off the ice. Not because he’s not contributing or soft, but because playing tentative and outside his normal flow is exactly how he’s going to get blasted again. So I’m hoping he’s just gone soft, not that he’s either still feeling effects or terrified of getting another.

    5. I called for those exact 3 on the OT PP. No idea why Nash (floating), Stepan (passing) and Richards (combination of those two or shooting wide) seemed like the right bet to end the game. I like AV and I like his style, but he’s made some really unattractive personnel decisions over the last few.

  29. Girardi laying on the ice again for 2 goals.

    Why is he leaving Kunitz to slide around? He can’t get to Joikinin to stop the shot … and eventually, Kunitz scores the goal (because Girardi left him all alone).

    Do the coaches see this?
    I’m sick of it … we see it WAY too much.

  30. Some definite positives in this game. And some absolute disasters. This team, even if it squeaks in, cannot play this type of hockey in the playoffs. They will get destroyed. Kind of like that time they played Boston, when they had a better coach and were a much better team.

  31. Girardi on that PP goal is EXACTLY why this team simply *cannot* play a Diamond PK. It’s horrendous. Girardi, and no other D-Man, is large enough and capable enough of covering the crease and slot all by himself. We don’t have that type of guy. Maybe McIlrath can be that eventually, but he’s not getting that chance now. We need to switch to a box where two D-Men guard the crease.

  32. Kristo called up yet? on

    Nice to see Asham up taking a spot on the bench. 4 minutes of ice time. Funny thing is I don’t remember seeing him on the ice AT ALL last night.

    Not that it’s his fault. Pull up someone that will play.

  33. Cross Check Charlie on

    This is either a compliment to the Pittsburgh GM or Dan Bylsma. The team loses Crosby for a big chunk of the season and they keep winning. This team had NINE FREAKIN’ PLAYERS out with injuries and they are on a winning streak. They are either stacked with talent or the best coached team in the NHL or it could be a combination of both. I may hate the Penguins team, but I admire what they have been able to accomplish. That is what we want from the Rangers and haven’t gotten it for 20 years.

  34. As I have said, and continue to say, *Vigneault’s in game management is horrendous*

    #7: That’s the one. Del Zotto, who had a strong game, got beat by Sutter but Hank *has* to make that stop. HAS TO.

    The reason there was no response after Hank got steamrolled was because *STRALMAN* was on the ice and Stralman is the *single worst player in the NHL after the whistle.* He lightly tugged on Kunitz’ Sweater and then skated away. Stralman is garbage. The only person attempting anything there was John Flipping Moore (who is cool).

  35. I’ve said it before, but the good thing about being in this division is that they have a lot of time to correct what is wrong. As bad as they’ve played, they’ve gotten enough points to stay close.

    And, it’s a good sign that they’re starting to at least fight back, even if it only leads to BBP’s. Everyone else is doing it, so why can’t they?

  36. I agree with *Matty* and *ORR* that this team is a bunch of *SISSIES* and it’s digusting to watch.

  37. I was *Very* depressed about that, ORR. This team should still call up *Bickel* so they have some semblance of balls.

  38. “This is either a compliment to the Pittsburgh GM or Dan Bylsma. The team loses Crosby for a big chunk of the season and they keep winning. This team had NINE FREAKIN’ PLAYERS out with injuries and they are on a winning streak. They are either stacked with talent or the best coached team in the NHL or it could be a combination of both. I may hate the Penguins team, but I admire what they have been able to accomplish. That is what we want from the Rangers and haven’t gotten it for 20 years.”

    Well said. Boston essentially beat us last post season missing half their D too. And you know why? Because they have a development system that feeds players. The Rangers? For awhile we did, but now, nope. To me, it’s all about Sather, he’s too comfortable, so he does what he wants. You know, I’m fine with AV as coach and his system. Now, 35 or so games in, it’s time to make the necessary changes. Not sure if that’s a complete overhaul or some tweaking.

  39. I will always keep some faith in a turnaround because Hank has the ability to be all-world, which is what you need for a playoff run.

    The Kings stunk most of the year they won. They made the right trades at the deadline, had Quick play out of his mind, and steamrolled everyone.

  40. Stranger Nation on

    To be fair to Girardi, those goals weren’t entirely his fault

    The first goal had Dom Moore on PK with his stick not in the passing lane and Crosby made an All-World pass. MEZ doesn’t hustle back and Girardi, as always, goes down to block, instead of staying on his feet.

    The second goal is more on Step who is puck watching and not finding a man to tie up. Girardi goes down again – his bad – but was irrelevant. Should have been a pp for us as Kunitz broke McD’s stick on a slash and no call…that’s Pissburgh for ya

  41. Kristo called up yet? on

    Gravy – Kings hired Sutter to turn the ship around, they started playing Tort’s type hockey, and became a VERY tough team to play against and score on.

    Carter was a high risk high reward, and he delivered in the playoffs. Unlike our top players.

  42. Stranger Nation on

    Bickel and Haley should be on this roster.

    Is AV still trying to figure this out? For a guy who likes speed, he starts Hags on the 4th line???

    At home with last change, he has our top line against their top line – horrendous mistake. Boyle or Moore should have been in Crosby’s jock all game.

    Puts way too much pressure on D which has been exposed.

  43. Sioux, definitely. A lot of things need to change and/or break the right way.

    It’s late enough to start identifying the issues, but early enough to do something about it.

  44. Braddie Mercury on that OT PP was pathetic. The wide shot followed by a giveaway.

    Horrible! I don’t know why McDonut was on the PP. Should have went with MZA.

    And every fuggin time Edzo said “Johnny Moore” I wanted to bite the head off of a pigeon. *JOHN* Moore! Not Johnny!

  45. SN, agree regarding Boyle.

    The thing that made him really effective a few years back was when he, Prust, and Fedotenko would forecheck and keep the puck along the boards in the offensive zone. They didn’t score often, but it was their way of playing “defense”.

  46. Rob in Beantown on

    Just be glad Micheletti wasn’t doing the game, Yergs. Samuellsons, Sutters, so many wonderful families

  47. Good point, ORR. Maybe the Rangers had no *balls* last night because their balls were all lodged in the NBC announcing teams’ throats.

  48. That is simply awesome, Yergs! I said some stuff about balls and the NBC crew and the Penguins on Twitter that I shouldn’t repeat in this *family friendly* forum.

  49. Stranger Nation on

    _SN, the Kings barely averaged 2 goals per game before they acquired Carter_
    So there is hope?
    Didn’t he play with Columbus? Guess he didn’t want any part of those losers and forced a trade out of the Buckeye State.
    Brought back a top 2 D-man and a #1 pick in the trade to Kings

  50. here we are almost half way. maybe the softest team in the NHL, terrible drafting, over paid aging former stars, a goalie who is having his worst yr, a capt who now is developing into a injury prone player, a former up and coming Dman who is done as a high level player because of his eyes and head. A no accountability coach, one of the biggest guys in the league who wont hit because if he does, he is afraid my sister may pummel him. No offense, erroding defense, terrible minor league, no home ice advantage. and above all it really doesnt look like anybody cares……did i miss something? Merry Christmas. oh yes horrible announcers lol

  51. @NYRangersZone Lundqvist on wanting to stay in the game: “At first I wasn’t sure. It was hard to focus. Personally, I had to regroup a little bit” #NYR

  52. I don’t feel like going back and looking, but how long was it when those of us who would be cool with trading Nash were mocked?

  53. It’s a very scary sentence. Makes me think of pitchers who just go all Rick Ankiel and can’t throw strikes. And then it’s over forever.

  54. Kinda, sorta off topic.

    On the Bettman Bonus Point strategy,

    One thing I never understood is going first in the shootout, yet coaches do it all the time. Any baseball fan understands the value of “last licks”. I always want to have the last shot, especially in the extended shootout like last night. I get that if you score 2 in the first round and you shoot first, the team that shoots last doesn’t even need to take the third shot. Still I think I’d rather go last and have the chance to tie this up. It comes back to bite you once you go beyond three rounds.

  55. Pacioretty is now up to 14 goals in 27 games. Granted, I’d be more impressed if he could have avoided breaking his neck or if he could have made last season a full season, but its not bad.

  56. Any Veterinarians in the house?

    How long does it take a dog to recover from a concussion?

    Nash is a dog.

    *From “major league clowns” section*: i thought I heard ( though admittedly I was half asleep) Eddie O and Pierre declare during last nights broadcast that Nash is a “lock” for the Canadian Olympic team????

  57. For a coach who supposedly liked line matching I find it strange that he wouldn’t put a checking line out against Skidney

  58. Agree with the general consensus on Girardi. Giveaways, errors, snow angels and a mysterious unwillingness to clear the crease. He simply is not as effective as he has been in past seasons.
    I have always been a supporter of Del Zotto and thought #4 had a strong game last night. He did get beat by Sutter but HL has to make that stop. He has a mean streak in him which was demonstrated by the cross check in the goalmouth.

    Agree with Carp and cannot understand why The Kreider is not out on the 4 on 3 in OT. Richards was awful on that PP, IMO.
    Nash needs to be benched….NOW!!

  59. So, we are approximately 1/3 into the season and problems abound.

    Let us count the ways.

    1- unbalanced roster with no real identity.
    2-no real NHL ready prospects.
    3- radically changed coaching philosophy.
    4- current group either unable , unwilling or not talented enough to adjust.
    5-front office oblivious to issues with any moves likely to be trading a brown dog for a white one.
    6-How many draft picks do we have, it’s difficult to keep up with the Sather wheeling and dealing?

    Anyone up for presenting the case of the half full glass?

  60. steve, I think in the earlier rounds, it helps if your team takes the lead because the goalies have the advantage, and it puts more pressure on the opposing team to score.

    I agree that it would be better to shoot second once you get into the “sudden death” portion.

  61. Pops, Nash is a very good skater, and very good stick handler and a proven scorer.

    However he is a big man who is not physical, is this so uncommon?

    On this squad he is expected to do the one thing he’s ill suited for which is to be more physical.

    Id be willing to wager on a better team with line mates who would cover for that perceived inadequacy there would be far less complaining about his worth.

    He has been a proven scorer in this league as was Gaby and others.

    For many reasons discussed here and elsewhere when a star player comes to the Sather stable, the magic fairy decides to ruin their careers!

    It’s the curse I tell you! ;)

  62. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _those of us who would be cool with trading Nash_

    Who are you trading Nash for?

  63. Rob in Beantown on

    I think Lundqvist sold that hit in overtime and the refs bought it. He got us a powerplay, so good work I guess.

  64. Rob in Beantown on

    It’s 6 days before Christmas and *still* no ATM series in the Bronx -jerseys- sweaters. What am I supposed to buy everybody on my list?

  65. On that Dupuis goal, was that Girardi’s backstroke or freestyle? He really needs to work on proper breathing

  66. Amazing stuff here today. Before the game, no chance against the conference leader on a four-game streak. But they play well, though finding themselves 3-1 down in the third, and the Ledge is full to bursting. Then they come back and put egg on all the Ledgers’ faces. So today, as though seeking revenge, it’s all about what wussies they were. My apologies to those of you who see things as they actually were, a step in the right direction and a stolen point in the bargain!

  67. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    You are trading him. Tell us what you deem to be an equal return, please.

  68. That the same guys who wore the letters when Torts coached the team are the same guys wearing them now, despite being obviously undeserving, demonstrates that AV is being told what to do by somebody higher up. Rosasco is the guy who makes the decisions, imo. The players know this too. There is no hope for us.

  69. Do you think Bergevin looks at Pacioretty like you do, Kenneth? If so, I’d make that deal straight up in a heartbeat, same as two weeks ago.

  70. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _If so, I’d make that deal straight up in a heartbeat, same as two weeks ago._

    I have been asked politely by Mister Carp to cease the mocking. (:

  71. NORM – how’s it hanging, Nammie?

    I agree it was a step in the right direction- if the right direction is fighting for the tenth spot in the conference.

    Team stinks. Why are we so allergic to the puck?

  72. Maybe they had Asham on the bench in case Rambo Crosby started acting up. Dorsett has a bad wrist. Who else on our bench would dare challenge The Flaming Lips (TFL) to drop leather?

  73. _I have been asked politely by Mister Carp to cease the mocking._

    See, I try to have a grown up talk with you and its not possible. You asked who I’d trade Nash for, I gave you an example and rather than debate the pros and cons of that player, you kind of fold up. If you can’t be a big kid, that’s ok, but maybe I should just turn my focus to guys like Lloyd who can.

  74. Well, we can continue to focus on all the negatives, or we can say at least they’ve showed some fight in the last two games.

    They had only gotten two points in games that they had given up the first goal, and now they got three in four. Plus, they were down two goals in both games.

  75. I would trade Nash for Pacioretty in a heartbeat. I would even throw in Boyle (who I *love*) to sweeten the deal

  76. who was the poster who kept saying how much better the Islanders would be this year?

    Don’t hear much of that lately.

  77. I know that not every Sutter played for the Islanders, but I hate every Sutter because of the ones who DID play for the Islanders

  78. Stop with the “in a heartbeats,’ por favor. Sounds like a doo wop group singing in the bathroom.

  79. Girardi and Nash should not have letters. They should go to McD and Zucc, if heart and consistent effort count for something.

  80. Norm,
    About your stolen point and right direction, i really want to like this team and really really want to believe we are going in the right direction. however every fiber of my being and my hockey sense and experience of watching for now 38 real yrs tells me the opposite.

  81. AV is mystifying at times. Either he has a method to his madness or he is sleepwalking. Hags on 4th line? Ash glued to bench when we need a strong forecheck against a D in diapers? What he has right is McDonuts playing half the game each night, even back to backs, for however long that will last without physical burn-out or injury.

  82. Good thing we have Native Dancer out there, leading the younger guys, showing how it’s done. Nash is certainly learning a lot from him.

  83. My *veterinary* friend, who was my best man and is a Phlyer’s fan, said that Concussions are “not often recognized in veterinary medicine so it’s not possible to say” how long it would take the average *dog* to recover from an average concussion.

  84. Coms, I disagree. On this squad Nash is expected to 1) score like an elite 1st line player, 2) be a consistent offensive threat, 3) be a presence on the ice. (midterm report card 1=D; 2=D-; 3 = F ).

    Probably consistent production, will help to quiet the building number of angry fans.

    Based on his performance, Nash is no Olympic player.

  85. Stranger Nation on

    What does it say about your team leadership when you wish everyone wearing an A on the sweater would be traded.

  86. Stranger Nation on

    USA fans could only wish Nash plays for Canada, same for Dupuis who should carrying Skid-knees bags off the bus

  87. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _What does it say about your team leadership_

    That the “A” stands for asinine.

  88. My son and I pegged Nash “Mister Softie” going back to last year. (Sadly, we continue to argue about who dubbed him with that call name first)

    For the record, I have nothing against Mister Softie custard ice cream, just prefer to have it in a sugar waffle cone, not on the 1st line of the NHL Hockey team I’ve routed for since the 60’s.

  89. Stranger Nation on

    Mister D
    _I don’t feel like going back and looking, but how long was it when those of us who would be cool with trading Nash were mocked_

    It was only one person albeit 5 screen names

  90. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _It was only one person albeit 5 screen names_

    It’s lazy to accuse those you disagree with of having multiple screen names. Exhibit more effort (:

  91. Norm: the voice of reason. I have seen a lot of improvement the last 2 games, compared to the previous six or seven.

    Good crack of noon, Sally!

  92. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    *ilb2001*

    _The only reason Sather may trade Nash for Pacioretti is if he still feels bad for fleecing Montreal in the McDonagh/Gomez trade._

    *December 16th, 2013 at 5:21 PM*

  93. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _I try to have a grown up talk_

    I have been asked politely by Mister Carp to cease the mocking.

  94. On Nash, really, it’s ok to be soft if you score goals. think Guy Lafleur was a tough guy? He’s big so people expect him to be tough too. He’s not that. He never will be. But to compensate he has to score a LOT of goals. We’ll see if he does.

    The thing that bugs me about this team, is, they had a stretch where they played the right way. Where they forechecked and won puck battles. Where they shot the puck and drove to the net. it coincided with Kreider coming up and Hags and Cally coming back. But the, for some reason they stopped. I don’t know if they got comfy or what? So I KNOW they can play that game. It’s in them. The trick is how to get them to do it. It might take a trade. To me, Girardi has been exposes as a “system” guy. He’s never been a good puck mover, and he still is playing the Torts system and it gets him out of position if the other D-Man is not playing that system. He’d be my first person out of here, and he can probably bring some value because of his reputation as a top defenseman.

    On last night, I definitely saw more signs that they are moving in the right direction again. But it’s not there yet.

    And hits and hitting. You can’t go by numbers as someone showed. You realize you can only hit someone with the puck, right? Well if you have a LOT of hits, it means you aren’t playing with the puck. That’s bad. This team NEEDS to play with the puck. I’d rather see less hits and more puck possession time.

  95. @AGrossRecord 1m

    Pyatt and McIlrath among 10 skaters plus G Cam Talbot on ice for Rangers optional practice.

  96. Rob in Beantown on

    Talbot tomorrow against the Islanders? He needs to get a few starts over the next few days, right?

  97. We can’t beat AHL team.
    9 regulars out and we scratched the point out of them. Woohoo.
    We are back to dark days of finishing 8-9-10.
    I don’t see any hope for improvement. The way AV have them play is not working.
    And yes Sather is at fault for the roster, but it’s about time for AV to own up and admit he is not doing a good job.
    Look at Penguins no matter who is in the line up they are ready to play and the play with intensity we can only dream of.
    Torts>AV big time.

  98. _On Nash, really, it’s ok to be soft if you score goals._

    In general, agreed. On the roster, bad fit.

  99. If you’re going to play soft and score goals you usually have a tough guy on your line that can take care of you and get you space.

  100. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Carp
    Great review!!

    On the first goal, the only thing worse than opg and his snow angel (boy has he been bad again) was the mad bomber pushing Kunitz (and subsequently his stick *and the puck INTO the net*).

    After Kunitz ran hank and the rangers did not respond, all I could think of is how right tostitos was.

    How about Pouliot being the real responder and only one in the scrum with despres towards the end of the OT? Atta boy!

    Sick of seeing Stepan get more shifts than brassard, but just my opinion.

    During one of the scrums, mrs Wicky says why is Stralman barely holding the back of that guys sweater and turning his head the other way? I just told her he is the Norris trophy winner and wants his face to look good for the presentation!

    Call up beach!!!

  101. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    With Nash I think it’s the concussions and I also think he needs a guy to ride shotgun awhile IMO.

  102. That was the one, Wick. Stralman barely tugging at the Sweater while John Moore tries to do something real.

    Stralman is *Garbage* Even worse he’s *European Garbage* or *Eurogarbage*

    Worst player in the NHL after the whistle.

  103. Personally, I would not categorize Guy Lafluer as a “soft” player because he wasn’t a “tough guy” ….. To me, being a non-fighter doesn’t mean your soft.

    I think Nash disappears in the more physical contests. Guy Lafluer was a threat in all types of contests.

  104. Arron Asham played 4 minutes last night. Why can’t Stu Bickel be up here playing 6 minute a night? Seriously

  105. eddie eddie eddie on

    I would extend richards tho….leading scorer…..clutch…….hustles……..willlllllllllllbbbbbberrrrrrr

  106. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I agree Eddie x3. I would trade him by the deadline regardless of where we are in the standings.

  107. I would rip that “A” off of Girardi’s chest RIGHT QUICK and then I would sew it on Dorsett’s face.

  108. Doodie Machetto on

    I’m with Carp on that OT PP. Zuccarello is by far their best forward on the PP. I get why you have to have Nash out there, and if you are using three forwards in that situation, McDonagh has to be out on the ice to balance out the chance going back in the other direction. But Zucarello should have been out there at the expense of Stepan or Richards. Frankly, neither guy had been playing well enough offensively to deserve that opportunity, but at least with Stepan you could say he’s a right hand shot (and honestly, he’s the only decent one on the roster right now with Callahan on the shelf). Richards should have been on the bench.

  109. ?@AGrossRecord 6s

    AV makes it sound as if the Rangers will make a personnel move or two – likely via Hartford (AHL) – prior to midnight roster freeze.

  110. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I know the diesel probably wouldn’t have been playing in OT when Kunitz hit hank, but could you guys imagine his response lol, much much different than the actual response.

  111. @KatieStrangESPN 21s

    #NYR Alain Vigneault said coaching staff and management will huddle this afternoon for such decisions. McIlrath will be one player discussed

  112. If you give me 8 or more million per season to score goals, it is in your interest as a GM to not have me fighting every goof who comes along.

  113. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    No, he doesn’t prevent that hit from happening, but if you beat the hell out of enough people who do hit the goalie, the goalie hits will cease.

    This is why beating the hell out of someone after the fact is still usefull IMHO.

    Fwiw, I don’t think Kunitz should have been penalized, he did everything possible to avoid him.

    Penalty or not, he should have had his aasen kicked.

  114. Stranger Nation on

    We have too many undersized 2nd line LWs – Richards, Hags, Zucc; All three could have a role, on a team but you can’t have all 3 on ONE team.

  115. Stranger Nation on

    Day after day, alone on the hill
    The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
    But nobody wants to know him
    They can see that he’s just a fool

  116. Kristo called up yet? on

    Who’s going to pick up Gomer Pyatt? Will he clear waivers?

    Call up Kristo & MIller.

    Sit or send Pyatt & Asham down, they are not helping us win games.

    PullOUT isn’t much better, but I guess he gets a pass for getting us an extra point the other night.

  117. Stranger Nation on

    Props to Pullout for jumping one of the Guinees at the end of reg play.

    We have to count on that guy for toughness? Oy…

  118. That moment you’re doing your business at work, and you feel water drip on your back. And you hope it’s the supply line to the stall on the floor above you and not the waste line.

  119. Stranger Nation on

    Bring up:
    Bickel, Haley, Barefoot Boozer

    Send down:
    Gomer Pylon

    Sit:
    Stralman, Pullout, Asham

    Kidnap:
    Richards

  120. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Bring up: Cromulence
    Send down: Skill
    Sit: Skill
    Trade: Skill

  121. “8) I said it in the comments shortly before those two Pittsburgh goals in 1:01, that I know it will come back and bite me in the butt, but Michael Del Zotto was having a pretty strong game. As one of you guys then replied. “Chomp.” Before that, I thought Del Zotto had a good response when that Penguin whose name I can’t spell gave Lundqvist a snow shower. Del Zotto crosschecked him in the back, right down to the ice. Good for him. And good for the refs, who were otherwise sub-standard (which is becoming the new standard), to call the unsportsmanlike penalty for the snow shower. Carl Hagelin then scored on the 4-on-4 that resulted. So good response all around.”

    Hey, Carp, that was ME who said chomp! Latona! What does it take for a man to get some credit around here?

  122. I’m with Stranger BRING UP BICKEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  123. Kristo called up yet? on

    This team .500 team is going to flounder like fish out of water, until they call up the Kristo Kid

  124. Last night carp said CTBlueshirt was the one he remembered as the one against the Nash trade meanwhile I remember it was me and ctblueshirt but at that time my screen name was tomg but carp don’t remember me against Nash. I hope you all enjoy him for the next whatever years with Lundqvist’s contract that I also was against. Giving a 32 year old goaltender that kind of deal is the reason why the rangers will never amount to anything. This franchise is shot.

  125. Kristo called up yet? on

    AV’s going to have to get a 4th line going.

    Either hit someone in the mouth, or shut down the top line for 10 minutes.

  126. I thought the rangers were heading in the right direction finally when torts was hired and convince sather to draft and develop and than sather blew it all up starting with trading for Nash and giving away two home grown core pieces and a #1. Than last year mortgaging more draft picks with that stupid trade for clowe. It’s all downhill from here and the final dagger is when sather opens up the check book and signs Girardi and Callahan to deals.

  127. Kristo called up yet? on

    AV gaves us some hope in the beginning, something new is going to change for the better.

    ….. or worse.

    He needs to sit Nash for a game. Somebody needs to wake him up.

    Stralman needs to go before Del Zotto, so I’m not so sure we can trade him for some 3rd line meat, that will probably be a few days past expiration.

  128. Wow Carp! I feel so honored. You didn’t have to do that. I was just being a troublemaker.

    While we’re at it, though, mind changing “by” to “from” in the subheading?

  129. personally I would have traded lundqvist, Callahan and girardi at deadline and got whatever prospects and/or picks and start to rebuild. Now you have a team with over blown contracts that will probably struggle to or not at all make the playoffs. It’s back to the early days of the Sather regime.

  130. Kristo called up yet? on

    Torts team is 20 – 10, 46 points and 2 points behind San Jose. Crazy to think you win 2 out of 3 games, and your team is not in the top 3 over your division.

    Rangers are 16-17 34 points, and 1 point behind 3rd.

    There’s hope for a playoff spot, but NO HOPE to win in the playoffs.

    48 games to go.

  131. @JimCerny: Talbot, Hagelin, Boyle, Kreider, Pyatt, Brassard, Falk, both Moores, McIlrath, MDZ MT @elaffffgaming: do u know who was at optional skate?

  132. Comnsnse: Re #2 on your list: “No NHL ready prospects,” – what would it hurt to get more fresh, young blood up here,starting with Kristo and Lindberg? I think they are ready for the New York Rangers, given the burned-out, veteran junk the team is saddled with, and I don’t give a damn if they are not quite HOF-ready, just yet.

    Funneling in New Blood should be the theme around here, given the glut of Pullouts, Pyatts, Ashams, and D. Moore’s of the world just hanging on for paychecks, not to mention the rapidly disintegrating old guard that appears to have “spit the bit,” starting with Girardi, MDZ, Richards, and the “honest” but tentative hockey player that Staal has been reduced to becoming, etc.

    In fact, making some timely farm system callups is the one way this season can be remotely salvaged – as an immediate investment in a brighter future, understanding that this team has no prospect of winning anything, this season.

  133. Kristo called up yet? on

    The Barefoot Boozer needs to bring his 6 pack of Miller Lite and start shooting the Lights out in MSG.

    Until then there really is ANYTHING to get excited about.

  134. We should waive EVERYONE that didn’t show up to practice today. These *optionals* are making me thirsty!

  135. Stranger Nation on

    Not a lot of verteran leadership at the optional skate. Guess when you push it as hard as Richards and Nash are you need some time off.

    At the track they call it a rest day

  136. Kristo called up yet? on

    or driving you to drink.

    Hey we lost to an AHL version of the Penguins, practice tomorrow if you feel like it.

    Not so sure AV is going to succeed here. Not a fan of his bench management or his timeouts.

    1-5 so far at home.

    What is AV thinking?

  137. Za'rat "TheOtherGuy'sGreed" Jones on

    Not a bad game at all. After all, our boys in blue were playing the best team in our division. Yes, they were missing a few players in Malkin and Neal. But we did well and stole a point.

    But I would be remissed if I didn’t criticize our scouting staff. How in a that is holy did we use a 10th over all, first round pick for a slow footed, enforcer with zero offensive upside. Yes, it may have been the worst draft class which was deemed EMPTY after the first 9 selections (of course it was ALMOST empty when we went) Which gets me irked to see NJ took Merrill in the NEXT ROUND! This Gelias kid who we all were introduced toast week may be a bigger problem for us than I thought.

    With that being said, I trust our boys will right the ship now. Sather will be doing everything he can within his power, which may be limited due to a jerk named Dolan.

    Let’s go Rangers!

  138. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I’d bring up Kristo and beach sit ash and Boyle (for a game)

    Trade hobbit, miller, and mad bomber or NATW for a forward with some truculence and some scoring skill.

    Put the diesel in the line up and let’s go rangers.

  139. Pops, What team, timeframe and players did the “Flower” play for/with when he was tough in tough games? He was great in almost every game but tough is not an appellation I would use to describe him.

    Now, at the risk of “offending” the Sid bashers, last night’s game is indicative with respect to taking anytime off in any circumstances.

    Ample reasons why the man is considered the best in the world.

  140. Za'rat "TheOtherGuy'sGreed" Jones on

    At least Stralman is crashing the crease. A lot more than I could say about the rest of the unit!

  141. Za'rat "TheOtherGuy'sGreed" Jones on

    At least Stralman is crashing the crease. A lot more than I can say for many others in the unit!

  142. Some Nash trade reactions:

    Manny
    Ok. This is absolutely awesome.
    July 23rd, 2012 at 2:48 PM

    Sioux-per-man
    WOW!!!! Is that it?

    No more……. ?????

    Sather pulls off another trade, getting the missing piece without losing the future :)
    July 23rd, 2012 at 2:48 PM

    tommyG
    I have to admit, when it comes to trading, sather is as shrewd as they come, good deal Darth Sather.
    July 23rd, 2012 at 2:53 PM

    Mister D
    Mister D’s take: There’s a good chance we lose this deal (big time buy low by Columbus) but less of a chance we get killed than I expected. I’m not in love, but I’m not in hate.
    July 23rd, 2012 at 2:51 PM

    Carp
    I don’t know about steal, cw, but it’s a very good deal for the NYR. If Dubinsky ever becomes what he should be, and Anisimov ever figures it out, it isn’t the steal of the century … and God forbid if Nash doesn’t score 30+ every year … but it’s a very good deal right now.
    July 23rd, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    Gravy, Swedish Meatballs with Noodles and
    There could be some truth to what Maloney says – only time will tell – when you look at the moves collectively. But, taken on a 1 by 1 basis, Sather made the right moves. Arguably, you could have kept Feds around for only $350k more, but Prust was overpaid, and the Nash deal is, worst-case, fair.
    July 23rd, 2012 at 4:22 PM

  143. I miss Dubinsky too. But I don’t see how you don’t pull the trigger on that deal. Nash, pre 35 concussions, was pretty awesome.

  144. CTBlueshirt
    Nash’s 12 combined PPG over the least 2 seasons in making the Rangers PP better how?

    Papa Bear
    Slats did a tremendous job here! Erixon and not MDZ makes this deal for the Rangers. Congrats to Sather and team. It is a great day for Blockhead nation!!!!
    July 23rd, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    MickeyM
    It was nice knowing you all. I’m going to go a) run Sather over with a bus. b) kick Nash where it will really hurt, then 3) drown myself in Lake Ontario.

    Think fondly of me.
    July 23rd, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    Czechthemout!!!
    This deal is an absolute steal! This kid is the real deal! He is a star player who is absolutley thrilled to be here unlike some others who hate the city. This guy, along with Kreider will be an absolute nightmare for Weber and that Swiss cheese goalie in Philly…
    July 23rd, 2012 at 6:30 PM

    Wicky© RUPP SMASH!!!
    And I am totally stoked about this deal…Great Great trade for us!!!!

  145. Saw a picture of Dubi the other day. His hair was just as bad as ever, only it was worse.

    His comb-over looked like my dad’s back in ’84.

    It made me nostalgic. I miss him too.

  146. CT and Mickey really holding it down there. I need to scale back my positivity. Why would anything EVER work out well for me?

  147. iManny
    I was against Nash for a money standpoint but we moved the same cap to CBJ. So…. We have to win soon. Hank won’t be young forever. We can’t keep saying, “what about next year”?
    July 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 PM

  148. At first I didn’t like the trade. I hated giving up Dubi & Arty. I get too attached to players who grow up in the system and never want them to leave, but then I convinced myself that that was stupid and we got the waaaaay better player.

  149. They’re never going full rebuild. with what they have, it will take forever. See Edmonton. And that’s really sucking for a long time. No way that will happen in Dolan’s house.

  150. NYR_FAN
    I think it’s a fair trade for both teams. I am not overly excited about this. We gave up value. But, I recognize that it’s a deal you have to make if you are Glen Sather and the Rangers…they sure aren’t going to find another proven goal scorer of his caliber anywhere else right now…

  151. Did you guys see that gif with Pierre and the Penguin … LMGO! If anybody has a moment to scroll down and re-post it for everybody, that would be awesome.

  152. I actually thought I saw Richie coming off the boards with a puck last night, but it was a dark round spaghetti sauce spot stuck on my screen.

  153. Gravy, please, first off I said sather is shrewd because he didn’t give up the rumors of Kreider and stepan going the other way but if you look back when my screen name was tomg I did not want to trade for nash. That post was me basically saying sather is shrewd because he didn’t give up the rangers younger players. That’s why it was a good trade for that reason and that reason only. Dig deeper when my screen name was tomg when the rumors first started to fly.

  154. kovie
    I guess, I’m in a small minority – I’m not too happy about this deal. Giving up 2 1/2 NHL ready players and a 1st rounder is a heavy price to pay for an aging player. Time will tell but Howson might have outfoxed Slats.
    July 24th, 2012 at 7:57 AM

  155. steveknj
    I’m ok with this move, but I do have some concerns down the road. Power forwards of the Nash type are usually done early, like by 32-33 they are usually finished. So the back end of that contract is going to look bad. But if the idea is to go for it over the next 3-4 years (as it should be), then it’s a good move.

  156. Stu Bickel has 67 games in the NHL, 66 more than he would have expected. Wrong league for him.

  157. Pierre to Torts: “So what kind of strategy do you plan to employ in the second period?”

    “None of your business.”

    “I see. Well, have fun.”

  158. Gaborik day is hilarious. I have looked through it before.

    Nash was a win now move in my opinion and coming off the 2011-2012 season following up on the failure of 2010-2011 it really felt like we were JUST about there. Then we let a bunch of pieces walk and got worse and worse and worse and are now here, where we are, suffering through a half assen rebuild that will never happen until the GM is kicked out on his keister.

  159. Also, the day John Mitchell signed is an interesting day of people going….HUH? Why did they let him go for so little money?

  160. Tiki

    Good Riddance Mitchell.

    jpg

    i see we’re not going to have John Mitchell to kick around anymore.

    Matty”DepthisWhatisNeeded!!!”Boy

    Wonder what Torts thinks of losing Mitchell, and potentially Pruster.

    Manny

    I knew we were going to lose Mitchell but the guy was pretty good for this team in his role. If we lose Prust I will be hysterically crying at home in my -apple juice- red wine.

    stuart a

    when the John Mitchell signing makes news this is the silly season.

    Lowell

    John Mitchell: Addition by subtraction

    4generations 4 cups

    I had no idea Mitchell was on the market. Dangit.

    Wicky© RUPP SMASH!!!

    not mitchell…nooooo

  161. Doodie Machetto
    honestly, I feel sick. this is one of the worst trades I have ever, EVER seen.
    April 3rd, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    grabby
    i’m sick to my stomach
    April 3rd, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Mister D
    If we had simply kept Prust, does any of this happen?
    April 3rd, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Latona
    I feel really sick.
    April 3rd, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    eric
    wow i dont think we got nearly enough. i am ok for trading gabby but we needed more here.
    April 3rd, 2013 at 2:54 PM

  162. ORR!! What Is It Good For!!??
    I can’t believe NYR couldn’t get more for Butt-Chin. Wouldn’t the Yotes consider trading Yandle for a guy like him?

    Fuggin odd trade. I’m not crazy aboot it.
    April 3rd, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty
    Revised WBM©

    0) Boyle
    1) Richards
    2) Clowe
    3) Brassard
    4) Dorsett
    5) Moore
    April 3rd, 2013 at 3:43 PM

  163. Gravy: Can you link me to the Gaborik Trade post? I remember leading it off with something like “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO”

  164. By the way, I think I came around and to this day love that trade. Gaborik was *never* re-signing here and he is constantly injured.

  165. Gravy, You Know You Want it Marty
    This one has me confused. Even with Gaborik’s lack of scoring, he was still tied for the team in game winning goals this year and had a bunch of OT goals the last few years (including the 3 OT game against Washington). Those that claimed he wasn’t clutch have short memories.
    April 3rd, 2013 at 6:27 PM

  166. cooscoos
    Gaborik checking out trailer parks in Columbus. Another delightful town to tell everyone about back in Trencin.
    April 3rd, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Gravy, You Know You Want it Marty
    The trade wasn’t too bad, except for the players they got and including Gaborik.
    April 3rd, 2013 at 7:25 PM

  167. Kristo called up yet? on

    The Gaborik trade, I remember Sioux-per-woman calling me when I was on the road. Can you believe they traded Gabby? Should I pick you up a full bottle of something?

  168. I was immediately heartbroken and then very happy. It was a “win next year” type move. Which has now turned into “win never”

  169. When speaking of rebuilds why is only Edmonton, Isles mentioned?

    Pittsburgh, Chicago, Kings all did pretty well. CUPS.

    Even Canucks drafted 2 Sedins same day and still benefit all these years later.

    The Rangers mediocrity or worse.

    Who’s to say both Isles and Edmonton won’t be better than NYR in 2 years.

  170. Kristo called up yet? on

    Who knew The Gaborik, Richards, & NASH would be a bust?

    Gaborik having a terrible year. Lucky we got what we did out of Columbus.

    Richards – was terrible last year, can’t keep him after this year.

    Nash – No Hits, No Runs, No Errors this year. A Ghost in the playoffs last year.

    One more bust and we could sculpt our own Mt. Bustmore!

  171. Cap Geek’d: Because this team will never SUCK to get a top 5 pick. We will ride the train of mediocrity, poor UFA signings and picking up Cast offs from waivers to just eek by using a mish mash of young kids and washed up veterans.

  172. Manny: Without trying they may suck enough to get a top 5 pick.

    Since Dolan won’t fire Sather maybe if they suck enough he will resign from embarrassment.

  173. Kristo called up yet? on

    So is the biggest mistake

    1) Signing Richards
    2) Trading for Nash
    3) Trading Gaborik away

    or

    4) Firing Torts

    The first 3 don’t seem as big as the #4.

  174. Kristo called up yet? on

    Let’s TANK about this for awhile……

    can we at least play the youth in the mean time?

  175. Kristo called up yet? on

    How many bones heads does it take at the Garden to switch the Potvin Sucks chant to Sather Sucks?

    Would he here it?

  176. You don’t have to score goals to stir our souls
    You don’t have to be a Rich to make a niche
    Just throw a little check when you get the itch
    You don’t have to be cool to be our….

  177. After Hank’s Mugging

    A root a toot night, a root a toot night,
    We are the boys in the blue and white
    We’re not rough and we’re not tough,
    But we’re talkative, and that’s enough.

  178. ‘A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, and signifying nothing.’ – Macbeth, Act V, Scene V.

  179. Haha that thread … Rangers signed Bickel for virtually same money as Kenopka got, Pitt replaced Asham by signing Glass. terrible day for NYR that day.

  180. Every single day beginning with the Game 6 exit to the NJ Devils in 2012, and continuing through today, is a terrible day for NYR.

  181. *ROSTER MOVES*

    @RothmanHockey #Rangers announce J.T. Miller has been recalled from Hartford (AHL), while Dylan McIlrath and Arron Asham have been sent down.

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