Blue Jackets at Rangers tonight (7 p.m.) … pre-game notes

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Pre-game notes courtesy of the Rangers:

NEW YORK RANGERS vs. COLUMBUS BLUE JACKETS
Thursday, Dec. 12, 7:00 p.m. ET
Madison Square Garden – New York, NY
Rangers: 15-16-1 (31 pts)
Blue Jackets: 13-15-3 (29 pts)

TONIGHT’S GAME
The Rangers will face-off against the Columbus Blue Jackets at Madison Square Garden (7:00p.m. — TV: MSG Network; Radio: ESPN 98.7), as they continue their franchise record nine-game homestand. The Blueshirts rank fourth in the Metropolitan Division standings, and ninth in the Eastern Conference, with a record of 15-16-1 (31 pts). The Rangers enter the contest having been defeated by the Nashville Predators, 4-1, on Tuesday, and are now 12-9-1 in their last 22 games. The Blueshirts are tied for fourth in the conference and 10th in the NHL, in ROW (15). The Blue Jackets enter the contest with a 13-15-3 (29 pts) record to rank 13th in the Eastern Conference, and have won three of their last four games. Following the contest, the Rangers will return to action when they face-off against the Calgary Flames on Sunday, Dec. 15,(7:00 p.m.).

RANGERS vs. BLUE JACKETS:
All-Time: 6-6-1-0 overall (3-1-1-0 at home; 3-5-0-0 on the road).
2013-14: Tonight is the second of four meetings this season, and the first of two meetings at Madison Square Garden. New York is 1-0-0 overall (0-0-0 at home; 1-0-0 on the road), following a 4-2 win on Nov. 7 at Nationwide Arena. The Rangers’ power play was 1-3 (33.3%) in the contest, while their penalty kill was 2-2 (100.0%). Carl Hagelin led all skaters with two goals, while Ryan Callahan and Ryan McDonagh each tallied one goal and one assist apiece. Cam Talbot made 32 saves in the win.
Last Season: Did not play. In 2011-12, New York was 1-0-0 overall (1-0-0 at home; 0-0-0 on the road), following a 3-2 overtime win on Feb. 19 at Madison Square Garden. Derek Stepan notched the game-winning goal 22 seconds into overtime, while Michael Del Zotto led all skaters with two assists in the contest. Henrik Lundqvist made 21 saves in the win.
The Rangers have won four of their last five meetings with the Blue Jackets, including each of their last two meetings at Madison Square Garden.
New York is 5-8-1 at home; Columbus is 5-8-2 on the road.
New York is 5-4-1 vs. Metropolitan Division opponents; Columbus is 4-5-1 vs. Metropolitan Division opponents
New York lists five former Blue Jackets on its roster: Derick Brassard (2007-08 – 2012-13); Derek Dorsett (2008-09 – 2012-13); John Moore (2010-11 – 2012-13); Rick Nash (2002-03 – 2011-12); Anton Stralman (2009-10 – 2010-11).
Columbus lists five former Rangers on its roster: Artem Anisimov (2008-09 – 2011-12); Brandon Dubinsky (2006-07 – 2011-12); Tim Erixon (2011-12); Marian Gaborik (2009-10 – 2012-13); Fedor Tyutin (2003-04 – 2007-08).

INDIVIDUAL CAREER LEADERS vs. BLUE JACKETS: Henrik Lundqvist – 5 GP, 3-2-0, 2.62 GAA; Cam Talbot – 1 GP, 1-0-0, 2.00 GAA; Brad Richards – 21 GP, 9-12–21; Taylor Pyatt – 29 GP, 4-5–9; Dominic Moore – 12 GP, 0-7–7; Dan Girardi – 6 GP, 1-3–4.

SPECIAL TEAMS:
New York is tied for first in the league with three goals in 5-on-3 situations.
The Rangers’ power play is 6-23 (26.1%) in the last eight games.
The Blueshirts’ penalty kill has held opponents scoreless in 12 of the last 15 games (34-37, 91.9% over the span).
Power Play: The Rangers were 0-2 (4:00) on Tuesday vs. Nashville. New York ranks 13th in the NHL overall (20-105, 19.0%), and 24th at home (7-48, 14.6%). The Rangers are 3-10 (4:24) in five-on-three situations (last – 11/25 at TBL), and 0-1 (0:30) when four-on-three (last – 10/12 at STL). Shorthanded goals allowed (3): 10/8 at SJS (Vlasic); 10/24 at PHI (Read); 11/19 vs. BOS (Paille).
Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts were 2-2 (4:00) on Tuesday vs. Nashville. New York is tied for sixth in the NHL overall (84-98, 85.7%), and rank 11th at home (33-39, 84.6%). The Rangers are 2-3 (2:49) in three-on-five situations (last – 11/4 vs. ANA), and 2-4 (1:08) when three-on-four (last – 12/7 vs. NJD). Shorthanded goals for (1): 10/7 at LAK (McDonagh).
Four-on-Four: New York did not skate in a four-on-four situation on Tuesday vs. Nashville, and are now -2 in 29 four-on-four situations (42:53) this season. Four-on-four goals for (2): 10/16 at WSH (J. Moore); 10/26 at DET (Brassard). Four-on-four goals allowed (4): 10/3 at PHX (Vrbata); 10/7 at LAK (Muzzin); 10/12 at STL (Backes); 12/8 vs. WSH (Grabovski, PS).

STREAKING RANGERS: Ryan McDonagh and Brad Richards both posted a Rangers’ season-high, six-game point streak from Nov. 27 at Florida to Dec. 7 vs. New Jersey, while Mats Zuccarello recorded a three-game point streak from Dec. 2 vs. Winnipeg to Dec. 7 vs. New Jersey. McDonagh’s streak established a career-high and included a career-best, four-game assist streak (five assists), which tied the Rangers’ season-high. He registered seven points (one goal, six assists) during the six-game streak which, according to the Elias Sports Bureau, is the longest by a Rangers defenseman since Brian Leetch registered a point in seven straight games during the 2003-04 season (Nov. 23 – Dec. 4). It is also tied as the third longest point streak by a defenseman in the NHL this season. Richards tallied seven points (three goals, four assists) during his streak, which was his longest since he finished with at least one point in the final six games of last season. Zuccarello’s three-game goal streak (three goals) established a career-high and tied for the Rangers’ season-high.

MILESTONES IN SIGHT: Derek Stepan – 1 assist from 100th NHL career; Mats Zuccarello – 2 games from 100th NHL career; Derick Brassard – 6 points from 200th NHL career.

INJURIES (60 Man-Games Lost):
Marc Staal (concussion on 12/7, out indefinitely) – 2.
Ryan Callahan (sprained MCL on 12/10, 2-4 weeks).

RECENT TRANSACTIONS:
Dec. 11 — Recalled defenseman Dylan McIlrath from Hartford (AHL).
Dec. 9 – Recalled forward Arron Asham from Hartford (AHL), and assigned forward J.T. Miller to Hartford.
Dec. 6 – Acquired forward Kyle Beach from Chicago in exchange for forward Brandon Mashinter.
Dec. 6 – Recalled forward J.T. Miller from Hartford (AHL).

 

 

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  1. What ever happened to that really nice lady who taught Brian Boyle how to power skate, drive to the net, and score 20 plus goals in a season?

  2. Barb Underhill joined the Leafs as a skating consultant last season. Not sure she helped him with his shooting though!

    (was probably a side effect of better skating to get in better positions)

  3. Can I just say – I’ve been hoping we’d call up McIlrath for weeks while we bemoan our toughness, I really hope the era of The Undertaker has arrived!

  4. …and will it matter? You got to put the biscuit in the basket more than one or two times a night.

  5. RangerSwedigian on

    I’m guessing Moore viewing time from above. Need both McRath and Falk on the ice to push some people around.

  6. One would have to be blind not to see that every single player on this team is playing scared right now, even the goalies! Well maybe not Pyatt, but only because he’s a frow away from looking like Ogie Oglthorp. Anyway with McIlrath’s protection in the line up, the rest of the Rangers should at least feel safe enough to play with pride again. And a team playing with “Rangers pride”, is very dangerous weapon…

  7. Here’s my pre game note:

    Who F’in cares? I’d rather spend 2.5 hours out in the cold reading the Enquirer at the newsstand on 34th

  8. and AA and the ghost of Gaborik..

    Tyutin… how quick we forget, it sees like yesterday he was gonna be our next savior.

  9. Matty"We'reAbunchOfCreamPuffs!!"Boy on

    Not too sure what AV could design in 2 days, BUT, this team switches to more of a team defensive system, with a new crease clearer, continued void of talent elsewhere, we can win games. If Hank shows up, of course.

    Gotta limit the true scoring chances and what we were doing the last few games was exactly the opposite. Give Hank a chance.

  10. I have been watching quite a few Pack games. McIlrath may surprise some with his hockey sense, shooting and such.

    I didn’t think he was quite ready, but this will be a good measuring stick. He has definitely improved in all areas.

    He can hit, he can fight. Swings with both hands. I am sure they protect him, give him 10 minutes or so, and tell him not to go crazy.

  11. Matty"We'reAbunchOfCreamPuffs!!"Boy on

    I hear the Rangers have resorted to advertising on the radio (WCBS880 AM) in the morning. “Tonights game vs. Columbus has limited seats available. Check our website or Ticketmaster).

    I can’t remember EVER hearing advertising for the Rangers home games.

    Start making less at the turnstiles, concessions, then Dolan may wake up.

  12. Matty"We'reAbunchOfCreamPuffs!!"Boy on

    Tomb, that is great news!! Hope he doesn’t let you down!! Look forward to it!!

  13. Matty"We'reAbunchOfCreamPuffs!!"Boy on

    All we need now is GILROY!!! What is taking you so long, Sather?????

    And, of course, a ‘tee shirt toss’!

  14. the extra speed of the NHL can be the difference.

    He wasn’t dominating the AHL like Pronger or anything, but he definitely has his moments.

    I hope he handles it… history tells us that he will get sent right back down as soon as regulars heal up, but surprises happen every day.

  15. Matty"We'reAbunchOfCreamPuffs!!"Boy on

    I’ll go ahead and say it. Backed down to a more defensive style. Limit the chances. Hank will be fine. We win tonight!! 2-1.

    Welcome back Dubie, Artie, and it’s been a long time, but a fairly stable, crease clearing defenseman, Fedor!!

  16. Matty"We'reAbunchOfCreamPuffs!!"Boy on

    Only problem, it will be even more boring than it’s been. That’s not a good on ice seller. Good luck with ticket sales!! Keeping marginal fans!!!

  17. One thing for sure, he won’t get pushed around and he won’t back down from a challenge like many regulars have already done.

    He is a big boy, and he dont take no guff.

    I got myself all excited, now I’ll never get to sleep.

  18. Matty"We'reAbunchOfCreamPuffs!!"Boy on

    Lol. It’s high time we have A player who can stand up to the other team. Go MacI!!!

    Dorsett and Zuccarello (amazing as it sounds) are the only two who currently do that.

  19. Will be interesting to see Casper Anisimov and the Ghost of Gaborik Past, Dubinsky will be extra motivated to prove he should still be there and Tyutin will have vague memories of Tom Renney but really its all about not losing to a team’s 4th line and backup goalie again.

  20. Matty"We'reAbunchOfCreamPuffs!!"Boy on

    Perhaps Beach will be able to learn something and play in the NHL yet.

    I do have a hard time understanding how our system could be so void of strength. Truly an afterthought here. Truly.

  21. Stranger Nation on

    J Moore and Asham on the list of guys who won’t back down. Unfortunately for us (and them), the list ends there…

  22. It’s just SONG LYRICS, Stranger! It’s a band called PROPAGANDHI. They love hockey.

    Great effort by the flyers last night…..

  23. Stranger Nation on

    TOP 6: You can move them around whereever you want
    Richards – Brass – Nash
    Kreider – Step – Zuc
    BOTTOM 6:
    Hags – Boyle – Dorsett
    Bickel – Moore – Ash/Haley

    McD – Girardi
    Moore – Stralman
    MDZ – Wrath of Mac

  24. “Who F’in cares? I’d rather spend 2.5 hours out in the cold reading the Enquirer at the newsstand on 34th”

    Classic. But shouldn’t you be reading a Sean Avery article in “Vogue” instead?

  25. You notice how Mcllrath lays someone out with a CLEAN hit and then answers the challenge? Orpik and Phaneuf should learn from the kid.

  26. “What ever happened to that really nice lady who taught Brian Boyle how to power skate, drive to the net, and score 20 plus goals in a season?”

    Nice lady? You mean, Derek Stepan?

  27. Definitely watching tonight – want to see how the kid does. Hope he smashes a few bodies, keeps Hank’s grill clean and slaps a few boomers at the opposition’s (backup) goalie

  28. I heard rumors that the nice lady was also the lady they caught using the alias “Goldie Locks”… So they busted her for trespassing and gave her 30 days in the slammer.

  29. One thing I like about the kid is that writers don’t just say he hits and fights, but that he “delivers bone-crushing hits” and is “a feared fighter”. Exactly what this team needs – some toughness and a spark and maybe a little reassurance that if they get hit, the opponent may well get a close up of Mc’s knuckles.

  30. Ode to the Undertaker (courtesy of U2)

    Give me one more chance
    And you’ll be satisfied
    Give me two more chances
    You won’t be denied

    Well my heart is where it’s always been
    My head is somewhere in between
    Give me one more chance
    Let me be your lover tonight

    You’re the real thing
    Yeah the real thing
    You’re the real thing
    Even better than the real thing
    Child…

    Give me one last chance
    And I’m gonna make you sing
    Give me half a chance
    To ride on the waves that you bring

    You’re honey child to a swarm of bees
    Gonna blow right through you like a breeze
    Give me one last dance
    We’ll slide down the surface of things

    You’re the real thing
    Yeah the real thing
    You’re the real thing
    Even better than the real thing
    Child…

    We’re free to fly the crimson sky
    The sun won’t melt our wings tonight

    Oh now…here she comes

    Take me higher
    Take me higher
    You take me higher
    You take me higher

    You’re the real thing
    Yeah the real thing
    You’re the real thing
    Even better than the real thing
    Even better than the real thing
    Even better than the real thing

    *Acting Baby!*

  31. What’s not like about this Kid?

    Absolutely Nothing…..(yet)

    Go get ‘em Undertaker… Play your game!!!

  32. If anyone’s interest there’s a PITTBULL concert playing on the Audience channel right now.

  33. Anyone know what section or number series to avoid for seating at MSG? Would rather be able to see scoreboard. Do not want the 115.00 chase bridge seats because I might jump if it gets bad….

  34. The Chase Ledge blocks the big new center ice scoreboard in the 200 sections starting about row 11.

  35. Stranger, I’d like those lines better if I could move Zucc and one of the centers to the bottom 6 and maybe Kane and Pacioretty into the top 6. I think we’d be a *much better* hockey club like that.

  36. DOLAN should market tonight’s game for what it really is … a circus show.

    Maybe families would come and fill up the empty seats.

    Opening act: Strawman turns the puck over … Kids, can you count how many times he hands the puck over to the other color?

    Second act: POULET goes offsides and then commits and offensive-zone penalty … Kids, can you spot him in the box?

    Final act: Henrik lets one in glove-side … Kids, want to try to score on the jester?

  37. I think McIlrath’s arrival will be akin to the Hulk in Avengers Assemble – “my secret? i’m always angry” BOOM!

  38. Hopefully McIlrath will scare off Poulet and wake up Brassard, Stepan, Richards, Stralman, Girardi etc….the list goes on!

  39. Stranger Nation on

    MR D – I understand where you are coming from, but what team can you reference that has three primarily offensive scoring lines? For reasons of salary cap reality and league wide talent dilution, my guess is very, very few.

    Most teams have a top 6 with two lines for offensively focused play and a bottom six with two lines of defensively focused play. When either of those two groups can provide some value on the other side of the ledger, you have a winning program i.e. 3rd line who can check and score a little and/or Top 6 who can score and defend a little.

    We don’t have enough talent to fill a top 6 , let alone a top 9. I would love both of those players you mention, but would jettison Black Beauty and put Pac on Line 1 and get rid of Zucc and put Kane on Line 2.

    Much bigger issue is the middle of the ice with this team.

  40. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    The wrath throws a right, another right, a left, a right, a left to the body, a right, another left…..down goes a Jacket, down goes a jacket, down goes a jacket

  41. Propaghandi…wow that brings me back to my 3-4 year punk phase in the early 90’s. Next up…METAL!

  42. Stranger: Very few to none, I imagine. I kind of have a new bottom 6 theory but I’m still ironing out the kinks. Pretty sure its a world changer.

  43. Zuccarello could play third line minutes but isn’t he a bit small for that role?

    I did see a stat the he’s one of 5 players to get time on the PK and not give up a goal while he’s on the ice.

  44. Good point UK! They sick McIlrath on Poillett and Pyatt first so they disappear into the ether.

    Clean up our own house first!!!!

  45. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    And in this corner, playing Defense,the undefeated and still champion of the wooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrllllllllllllllldddddddddd

    # 42……..Dylan, the undertaker Maaaaaaaaccccccccllllllllllrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaattttttttthhhhhhhhh

  46. Sioux-per-depressed on

    McTruck is the new Power Ranger for the Holidays!

    Called up to play against the Rangers JV team.

    It’s all propaganda! But we should have more penalty points tonight. Is PullOUT back in as well?

  47. I’ve sort of grown tired of metal by now. A lot of it really sounds the same to me (Meshuggah aside of course). I lived it for 10 plus years, but now I require much more creativity in the music I prefer these days.

    Still would like to see that list, though.

  48. Doodie Machetto on

    Anyone want tickets for tonight’s game? Section 208, row 2 (considered a premium row due to extended leg room), seats 2 and 3. Face value for pair is $160. Yours for $120. E-mail me at dmachetto@yahoo.com if interested.

    I think I also have tickets for Sunday against Calgary. I’m looking for $140 for those.

  49. I’m interested to see how McIlrath has progressed since the preseason but I don’t expect much, 8-10 minutes and on for one goal against.

    Realistically, let’s think about what he’s known for – he’s tied for 3rd in the AHL for fights, which would apparently be his best skill.

    Look at the list of the top NHL fighters – Dorsett, Sestito, Gazdic, Neil, Clune, Reaves, Boll, McCormick, McLaren, Prust – is anyone really going to argue that this group contributes to a lot of wins? Prust love aside.

    There was only one Defenseman in the top 20 of fighters last season, which tells me that it isn’t highly valued. If his max upside is he’s the next Fraser or Engelland I guess that’s okay, up to 15 mins a night with some grit. But that’s the best case scenario, the base case is he’s more like Justin Falk….

  50. Stranger Nation on

    JJP – Wrath of Mac does not need to fight tonight – he is very good at coming down scraping the boards and laying the lumber to the forward. Also look to face wash anyone who is near the crease after a Henk save. Toughness is needed, not pugilism.

  51. I have also been tweeting some great albums: @mrmanager5

    At the end of every year a few friends of mine and I make a list of best albums of 2013 just so we can make sure we didn’t miss anything. Obviously we miss TONS of stuff because who can keep up anymore when you’re “26” but it’s really helpful since we all find like 3 or 4 albums and when we combine efforts its 10 good albums to listen to during 2014.

  52. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Booby – it’s all good, throwing wood, in my hood, as it should, if I could……

    Boyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  53. I think one of the advantages of aging is that I finally listen to music I *want* to listen to and not just music I *want to want* to listen to. Make sense?

  54. Hopefully Mcilrath improve his skating ability. What I remember from watching Mcilrath skate in preseason wasn’t good.

  55. Rob in Beantown on

    I loved making album lists every year when I was exposed to more music (college radio!). I tried to do it this year and realized that I listened to maybe 5 new albums this year, which is kind of pathetic, and not enough for a “list”. So nowadays I just wait for Pitchfork to post their end of year lists to find all the music I missed during the year. Yes, Pitchfork. I’m lame.

  56. Being young pre-internet was the worst because you either had to shell out money you didn’t have, listen to crappy radio or hope your friend had something you wanted.

    Related: I know more about 90s rap than any of you.

  57. They’ve become a parody, Rob. The first two albums I liked but never understood the OH MY GOD hype, the Suburbs was almost juvenile in lyrics and the new one just tries to hard to be everything. They’re dumb and pretentious and dumb.

  58. Yup, Mister. I bought CD’s like an addict just to try them out. Spending money I didn’t have only to be completely underwhelmed.

  59. Rob in Beantown on

    *Funeral* is one of the greatest albums to come out in my lifetime and I think I’m still sentimental to them because of it. But nothing they’ve put out since then has been close to as good. I actually kind of liked Suburbs, but Reflektor is unlistenable

  60. I was lucky to have a friend who stole a lot from Lechmere’s. Even then, blank tapes were expensive on a $0 per year salary.

  61. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MrD – do you have any if my rap CDs? In the 90’s, my stage name was Chocolate White Man

    Boyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  62. Sather to McIlrath: “Come in here, dear boy, have a cigar. You’re gonna go far. You’re gonna fly high. You’re never gonna die, you’re gonna make it if you try. There gonna love you.”

  63. *Arcade Fire* is horrible music. I don’t just like Metal or Punk or Doom Metal or Funeral Doom Metal or Sludge Metal or something, ya know? I listen to pretty much everything under the sun. There are two recent bands that I abhor:

    The National
    Arcade Fire

    I hate them so much I get mad. It’s the same hatred I have to the Devils and the Capitals.

  64. Werd, tommy. We were talking Floyd and The Who last night. 70s and mid-90s produced some of the best rock music.

  65. I don’t claim to be any authority on music either. Music is art and everyone will hear and see something different and unique to themselves and their experiences in life. If you like those bands that’s awesome. I just can’t stand them.

  66. Prediction: Big Mac will do well – well enough to at least look like he belongs – and get exiled to Hartford within a week. Just figured out why Sather called him up – because he needs this week’s “Bring a kid up from Hartford and send him right back, no matter how well he looks,” fix.

    Sather is a control freak, and an emotionally insecure basket case.

  67. I have seen *The National* four effing times. *FOUR* times. Thanks to Mrs. Manny thinking they are so coooooooooooooooool and emotional.

  68. Totally. More fun than my top 10 list is figuring out which indie album I’m supposed to love I either hate or simply don’t understand. Past winners besides Arcade Fire (twice) are the XX, Alt-J and pretty much anyone inside that miserable country-indie-folk genre.

  69. MD, yeah, like the physical disc and liner notes and stuff. And I’m not super old.

    My first concert was White Zombie, so I guess I like some of that metal, Mannü.

  70. I highly suggest October Rust by Type O Negative if you ever decide to listen to dark, Goth-like “metal”. It is both depressing and uplifting, in a weird way. There’s also a cover of Neil Young’s Cinnamon Girl.

  71. The usually have good openers too, Manny. Although if emotions scare you, The Antlers coming off their cancer ward concept album (2010 tour?) would *not* have been your thing.

    (I know emotions don’t scare you but that was as condescending as I could come up with. The National are great and that’s all there is to it.)

  72. I actually love the *XX* but I also make fun of it while listening to it. It’s a bit over the top. White Sade.

  73. One of the best shows I’ve ever seen was Converge in December of 2001. Bunch of us drove down to Baltimore to check them out at this placed called the Ottobar(amazing venue). Band, and crowd, just destroyed the place.

  74. Dubinsky, Anisimov etc. is the reason I’ll watch tonight.
    I love how Dubinsky tells it like it is aboot the NYR. The “whole shiny new toy” thing is soooo spot on…that’s why we don’t win consistently like the better teams in the league…we’ll always just be a portrait of mediocrity. That’s why we get one winning season finishing 1st only to trade away the players who got you there…sigh…

  75. _October Rust_ is beautiful and was my favorite album until in my late 20’s I started listening to _World Coming Down_ a lot more often.

    I’m actually wearing a *Type O Negative* T-Shirt in my engagement photos to Mrs. Manny. She is wearing a lovely dress designed by some designer I call “The Nazi” because her name is like Dian Van Firtsinburgh or something. She’s wearing that and I’m wearing a _Slow Deep and Hard_ T Shirt.

  76. Met Peter Steel once. He’s really tall and really intimidating at first and then really nice and really not scary at all.

  77. I spoke to him on the phone once. He gave me a Type O windbreaker at one point. My roots with him go *deep* as you can tell.

  78. Peter Steele was *huge* and had the *size* the Rangers need, but I imagine he would play like Boyle.

    Saw them at Toad’s Place in CT. Awesome show. Also, saw them at Roseland. I do not remember that show for some reason. ;)

  79. Staal Warth, right on, was saying that yesterday. Sather seems to throw darts at a board each and every year. Appears to be no plan, decide as you go along.

  80. He also, according to Playgirl, and some people with personal experience, had some *size* in other areas….

  81. Gosh Toad’s Place. Is that still open? I went their a bunch in the late nineties while a few of my buddies were at Quinnipiac. (did I spell that right?)

  82. _When Type O Negative signed with Roadrunner Records, Steele signed his recording contract with a mixture of his blood and semen._

    Sounds about right.

  83. Last I checked, Toad’s Place was still open. I think the last time I was there was another band I don’t like (Dillinger Escape plan)

  84. Northern Jersey, Manny. Had friends spread out at schools all over CT (Sacred Heart, Quinn, Fairfield, Uconn) so I spent a lot of time up there.

  85. My band played a couple shows at Quinnipiac in the late 90’s. One was a talent show (2nd place holla!) and the other was in some type of eatery. The Rat (?) I think it was called.

  86. Rob in Beantown on

    _More fun than my top 10 list is figuring out which indie album I’m supposed to love I either hate or simply don’t understand._

    Have you heard the new Vampire Weekend album? I have not yet, I think I’m biased against them because I didn’t really like their schtick in their first album, but everything I’ve read says this one is supposed to be really good.

  87. Rob in Beantown on

    Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord
    Derick Brassard definitely *testing out his sore posterior*. Doesn’t look comfortable skating.

  88. Tough to say. We were pretty heavy, but never took ourselves too seriously. Comedy metal perhaps? Lots of samples and weird electronics too, which was way cool back then.

  89. @PLeonardNYDN 15s

    Looks like McIlrath is in, Falk is out, can’t tell whether Pyatt or Pouliot is playing tho

  90. I have and I like Rob. I liked the eponymous, less so the 2nd one, and this is a bounceback. There will always be some flat out annoying songs but the good ones I really like.

  91. _Looks like McIlrath is in, Falk is out, *can’t tell whether Pyatt or Pouliot is playing* tho_

    Sounds about right.

  92. I assume, if you have kids, that Vampire Weekend pleases them as well with the high voices and upbeat music.

    I didn’t mind their most recent album. And their music is in _Stepbrothers_ so that’s a huge plus.

  93. Man I really hope this kid can figure it out at the big level. 3rd pairing of him and Moore is intruiging.

  94. I thought the same, Manny, but kids will dance to almost anything. It was early Radiohead the other day. But yeah, Vampire Weekend and Passion Pit are almost cheating.

  95. Jarmo Kekalainen ?@jkekalainen Miljardilla dollarilla saa aikaan melko siistin remontin…;-) pic.twitter.com/IqKrtwuADg

    *********************************

    huh?

  96. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Jamming on “for goodness sake” by Shannon and the clams off “dreams in the rat house”

  97. Stranger Nation on

    Ex3 – will listen to every genre imaginable save for metal. Just could never get into it for some inexplicable reason…

    Late 70’s Reggae, Early 80’s New Wave, Early 70’s Rock, Late 60’s Jazz, 90’s Alt, Late 80’s Rap, 18th cent Classical, 1930’s Swing, 1950’s Blues

  98. I like the move, Manny. Responsible stay-at-home to let MDZ freestyle just a little on his *natural* side.

  99. Stranger Nation on

    Ex3 – have seen the Ventures multiple times as well as Dick Dale. that surf guitar sound can be trippy if handled properly

  100. Slats announces bigger, more powerful tee shirt gun being called up to reach ‘cheap’ seats, projects XXXXL’s

  101. Stranger Nation on

    Ex3 – have seen the Ventures multiple times as well as D!ck Dale. The surf guitar sound can be trippy if done right

  102. New Wave / Dark Wave music *RULES*

    I never got why people *ironically* enjoyed it since it’s so *naturally* enjoyable.

  103. Seems like its now or never with Del Zotto. I have little faith unfortunately, but am curious to see how he responds to playing on the left with Girardi. I mean, he has to know his days are numbered here without improvement.

  104. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Snation – I’m not much of a head banger either ….the Seattle grunge sound is about as close to metal as I got….every other genre is in play…..opera, bluegrass, classical, baroque, romantic, funk, jazz, world music, punk, 80’s alternative, Motown, British Invasion, wall of sound, as well as all we discuss here…

  105. I’ve spend untold hours trying to figure out if Depeche Mode is flat out enjoyable or enjoyable in a goofy 80s kinda way and I’m still not completely sold, despite leaning to former.

  106. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Sunday night – serius radio, classic alternative – dark wave – great station, great sound…

  107. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Get the balance right, shake the disease, just can’t get enough – killer depech mode songs

  108. Despite of our team sucks big time as a whole(and don’t play words here),but:
    Derek Dorsett > Gandon Dubinsky
    Rick Nash > MariOn Gaborik
    Derick Brassard > Artem Anisimov
    John Moore > Tim Erixon

    Collective Dere(i)(c)ks beats Brandons of all form and shapes.(maybe).

  109. While I believe most 80’s music is enjoyable in that goofy way, Depeche Mode is not like that. They’re a solid listen.

  110. Stranger Nation on

    Mr. D – not sure what constitutes ‘indie’ these days but Artic Monkeys, Death Cab, Cage the Elephant sound good to me. Death Cab has the most range of those three.

  111. Stranger Nation on

    Value of Ex Rangers: Production/Cost
    1. #1 pick
    2. Artie
    3. Tutin
    4. Dubi
    5. Gabby
    6. Erixon

    Value of Ex BJs: Production/Cost
    1. Moore
    2. Nash
    3. Stralman
    4. Dorsett
    5. Brassard

    and..
    Davidson > Arniel – Ha!

  112. AV seems to like DelZ’s growing offensive zone aggressiveness. Problem to me is that he’s supposed to be a Defenseman first.

  113. @NYRangers 56s

    #NYR Lineup notes: Brassard is out of the lineup and is considered day to day. Pyatt and Pouliot both in. Falk scratched.

  114. …having the same if not higher spirit and inner motor, at least Dorksett can fight and win sometimes. And “sometimes” is a defininition of both their scoring ability. Not goofy at all.

  115. _AV seems to like DelZ’s growing offensive zone aggressiveness. Problem to me is that he’s supposed to be a Defenseman first._

    Quickest way to a Norris is being a 2nd line forward skillset playing 1st pair defense, no?

  116. Haley is out indefinitely following Sports Hernia surgery. So it would be *Bickel* . My main man *Bickel*

  117. Having a resident goon assuages the loyal Neanderthals, but you really just need some team toughness. You don’t have to decisively win a fight to make your presence felt, as with Dorsett, Prust, old Avery, etc. It’s the ELAN, the PIZZAZZ, the JUICE, the ZEST, the VIRILITY!

  118. And on that note, the *new groundbreaking theory* I’m still working through and not married to yet: A team’s bottom 6 is far more reliant on being not bad than on being actively good. LAK or the Devils or whichever bottom 6s you like best; its not that their players are individually good, there just isn’t anyone downright bad and a bad player or two ruins the bunch because, by nature, the others aren’t good enough to cover.

  119. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    The Smiths, Sioux shee and the banshees, psychedelic furs, the stranglers, lords of the new church, PIL – too too many more….

    Have to go and preach to the winning TBC

  120. Poor DB, finally gets relieved of one pain in the ass only to gain another OH YES I NAILED THAT POULIOT JOKE!!!

  121. _MD, can I choose any bottom 6 that plays the Rangers?_

    Might help prove the theory, assuming our worst are worse than their worst.

  122. ‘Did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts?

    Did you exchange your walk-on part in the war
    For a lead role in a cage?’

  123. ‘Bad Leroy Brown learned a lesson
    ‘Bout a-messin’ with the wife of a jealous man.’

    Sometimes in life, don’t matter how big you are. :)

  124. Dubinsky might be cheating, Gravy, because he *could* be a 2nd liner. The rest are part of a very cool bottom 6. Except Rupp, or atleast the version of Rupp we had. Yuck.

    Manny (and I) love Bernier and he would fit our former 1st round pick strategy perfectly.

  125. Basically my 4th line is:

    Heavyweight – Defensive Center and Great face off guy – Middle Weight Agitator

  126. Thanks Booby. No one has ever been *that* nice to me. Ever.

    Yea, that’s fine Gravy. I don’t mind Boyle at all but James turned me when he made me realize that Gregory Campbell is half the cost…..

  127. Stats don’t lie, this makes me sick.

    Straight from the nyr website

    15 players with a minus rating
    4 players with 0 or plus rating
    10 players with a -5 or higher rating
    4 players with a -9 or higher
    5 players with 1 or less goals
    Highest player point total-24 points/Richards
    0 players with ten or more goals
    5 players with 10 or more assists
    Top 6 players total season goals and assist: 45 goals/74 assists
    Bottom 6 players total season goals and assists:14 goals/20 assists

    Really want to get sick?

    Go compare this to shittsburghs stats.

    Lets go rangers?

    Maybe I should go and get my own shine box!!????

  128. One thing to note and note hard: If you’re building your ideal team, even realistically, there’s no place for a guy like Zucc unless you think he’s a for real top 6.

  129. Rob in Beantown on

    Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord
    Henrik Lundqvist will make his season-high fifth straight start against Blue Jackets, facing Curtis McElhinney (3-4-1, 2.24 GAA)

    McElhinney, aka *The Dominator*, with the 30 save shutout. *Book it*

  130. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _One thing to note and note hard: If you’re building your ideal team, even realistically, there’s no place for a guy like Zucc unless you think he’s a for real top 6._

    If there’s a place for Brian Boyle on an *ideal* team, there’s a place for Zuccarello. He possesses more notable skills than Boyle possesses. He would make a fine 3rd liner on an *ideal* team.

  131. Hopefully the Undertaker has improved his skating or we all know he will be headed back to Hartford. Either way, probably will be headed back to Hartford like Miller.

  132. Doodie Machetto on

    This isn’t a good team. It’s not constructed well and frankly does not have any worthwhile depth. Lastly, it’s just not very likeable. They don’t work hard.

    I miss the team from two years ago. That is by far my favorite team since 1997.

  133. Stranger Nation on

    _If there’s a place for Brian Boyle on an ideal team, there’s a place for Zuccarello. He possesses more notable skills than Boyle possesses. He would make a fine 3rd liner on an ideal team_

    That’s the long and the short of it

  134. Doodie, right on, agree. The problem as we all know is Sather and apparently he is the GM for life. This dope changes the rangers roster from year to year with no plan. Throws darts at a dart board. Trades away draft picks like they mean nothing. Future is not looking good in Rangerland, that’s for sure.

  135. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _I miss the team from two years ago. That is by far my favorite team since 1997._

    That roster wasn’t built particularly well, either, with most of the credit for their _success_ belonging to the coach. Their _success_ was unsustainable.

  136. I’m putting some feelers out on Twitter Doodie. If successful I expect the regular commission that you give Carp of $0.

  137. When God was handing out brains, Slats though he said Hanes and told him no, he had all the underwear he needed.

  138. Building an ideal team, there is far more logic behind adding a big 4th line center with faceoff and PK skills than there is a mini 3rd line passing wing.

  139. Stranger Nation on

    Back Up Goalie – check

    Ex Rangers with malice – check

    Rookie with no goals yet – (need to check on that)

    Ranger Killer w/ Family ties (Foligno) – check

    4th liner to score – check

  140. Doodie Machetto on

    My favorite concrete example of how Sather has no plan or no clue is the enforcer.

    He has Colton Orr, a legit heavyweight enforcer but lousy player; in other words, he’s a goon. Then Sather doesn’t sign Orr in favor of Donald Brashear, saying he thinks Brashear can play in more situations since Orr is a terrible player. When Brashear doesn’t pan out, at all, he trades for Jody Shelley, who actually does what Brashear was advertised to do. But then, instead of resigning Shelley, he goes for pure goon Derek Boogaard, at a contract that was much larger than the one he could have originally offered to Orr. Boogaard gets injured, misses most of the season, and tragically dies. Boogaard is replaced by Mike Rupp, supposedly because Rupp could do more than just fight, like Brashear and Shelley, who he had just spurned in favor of a pure goon in Boogaard. Rupp is lousy at both and eventually is traded last season for some “help” on the PK and we’ve been without a legitimate heavyweight since.

    Meanwhile, Colton Orr is still a legitimate heavyweight in Toronto, all for less than every single guy Sather has signed since.

  141. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Building an ideal team, there is far more logic behind adding a big 4th line center with faceoff and PK skills than there is a mini 3rd line passing wing._

    Big is irrelevant, as Boyle is a *soft* big. His _faceoff skills_ have resulted in a 55% success rate thus far this season. Essentially, Boyle is not that skillful at faceoffs. Every bottom 6 forward should be able to PK. Zuccarello probably PKs as well as Boyle, there’s nothing to prove either way.

    Zuccarello has the notable skill of scoring in shootouts. Throughout Hank’s career, the Rangers have gone to a shootout in approximately 14% of his appearances. Zuccarello is *tougher* than Boyle, faster than Boyle and scores at a better rate than Boyle.

    Try again.

  142. I’m only asking for *$0* commission. Which is really no commission at all.

    Well said, Doodie. The Colton Orr debacle. Sather has *no* direction. None. It’s just a roster of redundancy.

    He chose Dominic Moore and Benoit Pouliot instead of MATT HENDRICKS

  143. _His faceoff skills have resulted in a 55% success rate thus far this season._

    And 55% puts Boyle in the 83rd percentile of qualifiers.

    _Essentially, Boyle is not that skillful at faceoffs._

    Kenneth in a nutshell, ladies and gents.

  144. @AGrossRecord 24s

    Dubinsky on possible MSG reception to him: “I think it’ll be a good one….blue-collar fan base, they appreciate guys that work hard.”

    ******************

    MORE SMACK TALK HE CALLED US POOR

  145. Doodie, your Orr example is spot on.

    55.1% on faceoffs is very good, when arguably the best in the league (Gaustad) is 60.5%. Or is that not sustainable.

  146. Boyle is the best we have on face offs. And he consistently gets moved to the *wing* . That tells you a lot about our teams *direction*

  147. “I met the Dubinsky Dad and Mom and some uncles up in Alaska this summer, Sam, and I can’t begin to tell you what a wonderful, wonderful, down to earth family…”

    “Oh, you can say that again, Joe.”

    “Okay, I met the Dubinsky Dad and Mom and…”

    “No, Joe, I meant that….goal!”

  148. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _And 55% puts Boyle in the 83rd percentile of qualifiers._

    I have no idea how you manufactured that statistic, but a player without any skill like Brian Boyle needs to be in the 95th percentile of qualifiers to be considered valuable. 55% at faceoffs isn’t a reason to pay a player $1.7MM to occupy a roster spot.

    I take it from your silence that you agree with the rest of my previous post. You’re catching on.

  149. _“No, Joe, I meant that….goal!”_

    “Columbus goal scored by number 55, Mark Letestu, his first of the season.”

  150. _I have no idea how you manufactured that statistic_

    Rank divided by sample size = percentile. Its just division, kid.

  151. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Zenon Konopka gets paid $925k to win 65.2% of faceoffs. He’s probably *tougher* than Brian Boyle, just about anybody is.

    If a team wants a faceoff specialist that has no other skill, Konopka is the team’s man.

  152. Sather Must Go! on

    They sold brought up at least two from Hartford to wake thee guys up- don’t know how all the contracts work out with that stuff…

    Mcilrath will feel the need to prove his enforcer status quick -tough for a young kid with no NHL experience-tonight wont be to bad versus Columbus…but the next against calgary vs mcgrattan could be tough

  153. I wonder what it feels like to have organizational direction or at least the *prospect* of organizational direction.

  154. “Well, down 6-0 to start the third, Alain Vigneault has decided to make a change in goal, Joe.”

    “None of those goals were directly Lundqvist’s fault, Sam, except maybe the second, third, and maybe the sixth. I think the coach is just trying to wake up the team a little bit.”

  155. Also, just because this stuff is so funny …

    Zucc career shootouts: 6-12

    Dom Moore career shootouts: 5-12

    (Blog darling Matt Hendricks is 9-16. ELITE!!!)

  156. Sam, I haven’t heard of McElhinney before, but I’m sure wherever he’s from, they taught him how to be a Vezina candidate.

  157. Maybe Hank should try this:

    @TGfireandice Martin Brodeur is out there in a hoodie & warm-up pants, just testing a new set of skates and shooting the puck around with a skater’s stick

  158. “Hey Marty, I’ll give you my lunch if you go skate around with my stick for a half hour.”

  159. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Konopka averages 6.5 faceoffs per game. Boyle averages 11 and has played a lot on the wing._

    Your claim is that Boyle is a faceoff specialist. He’s getting paid $1.7MM to win 55.1% of his faceoffs.

    The last time I checked, there’s a lot more to hockey than winning faceoffs, of which Brian Boyle provides nothing.

    _If you aren’t in the 95th percentile, you aren’t very good at what you do._

    When that’s all Boyle does, 83rd percentile isn’t good enough, sport.

  160. Worst shootout percentage (min. 10 attempts)

    1. Taylor Pyatt – 7.7% (1/13)
    2. Alex Ponikarovsky – 8.3% (1/12)
    3. Dustin Penner – 9.1% (1/11)
    4. Tomas Fleischmann – 10% (1/10)
    5. Chris Higgins – 10% (1/10)
    6. Eric Staal – 14.3% (2/14)
    7. Jeff Carter – 15% (3/20)
    8. Marian Gaborik – 15% (3/20)
    9. Martin Havlat – 15% (3/20)
    10. Michael Frolik & Dany Heatley – 15.4% (2/13 & 4/26, respectively)

  161. Kenneth: I normally don’t say stuff like this, but, if you don’t see Boyle’s prowess on the PK and his massive size on the forecheck and when protecting a lead late, then you just don’t understand hockey or are clearly *not* paying attention.

  162. There are *29* teams out there that would *gladly* take Boyle off of our hands and plop him on their 4th line for the next 5 years.

  163. Manny, if I were guessing (which I am), I’d say …

    11% chance – Intentionally trolling

    2% chance – Not paying attention

    87% chance – Does no understand hockey

  164. Manny + Mister D = Sense makers

    Every team would take Boyle for their 4th. Not every team would take MZA for their 3rd.

  165. @ Carp

    Stumbled across a message board at IGN.com. I was actually looking for Wolski’s career shootout numbers and found that.

  166. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _There are 29 teams out there that would gladly take Boyle off of our hands and plop him on their 4th line for the next 5 years._

    No, there’s not.

  167. Boyle pluses: PK, large, forecheck, offensive crease presence, as Mannu says. Negatives: Slowish, arthritic hands.

  168. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Zuccarello is good enough to play for a lot of teams in the NHL.

    Boyle is not good enough to play for a lot of teams in the NHL.

  169. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _I defy you to prove otherwise._

    No team would sign that _faceoff specialist_ for 5 years.

    I urge you to prove otherwise.

  170. Jeff in South Dakota on

    The main reason Santa is so jolly is because he knows where all the bad girls live.

    George Carlin

  171. Mister D is good enough to post on any team’s fan board

    Kenneth is not good enough to post on any team’s fan board except for this one because the members here are very *nice* and *forgiving* and want him to succeed because he seems to have a good heart.

  172. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Boyle is delighted to be in the NHL, and he knows he has to fight, and get his head mashed in, to stay_

    I fixed that for you, cooscoos.

  173. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Boyle is the biggest soft player I’ve ever seen. He can’t fight and skates like Frankenstein_

    That is precisely the type of player every team wants. You forgot arthritic hands. (:

  174. Fact is, if Zucc falters, he may not get another big club NHL chance. (plenty of other leagues, though, – he won’t wash dishes.) Boyler, someone will always find useful.

  175. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _If Brian Boyle remains this team’s biggest issue by the end of the season, we are playing in June._

    Nobody said that he is. The proposition was that, given the choice of the two, a team would rather have Zuccarello as a 3rd liner than Boyle as a 4th liner.

  176. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    While Boyle is not the problem or a problem with the Rangers, he is *not* a solution.

  177. @Carp

    Wasn’t sure at first, but after looking around some I don’t think you’ll find any regular info there. It was my first time visiting that site. My guess is that I just found a random post on a message board. It doesn’t look like they cover any live sports.

  178. lol, K’s Mom. As for me, I have a job, but I only get paid when I produce, which is how it should work. As someone once said to me, “you working yet or still doing the writing?”

  179. How can a guy that is on your roster, and have been there for multiple season, ever be considered a *solution* ?

  180. Sather Must Go! on

    It’s not that tall guys have to be fighters, but they need others guys who drop the gloves around them… So when the other team tough guys need someone to go there is … Boyle didn’t want to fight chara/Bieksa but those guys needed someone, ESP chara who needs to fight the other teams allest guy..

  181. Stranger Nation on

    Curious to learn at what round in the shoot out Pyatt was given a chance?

    Rumor the ref called him for delay of game once as he carefully came up the ice considering any and all shot possibilities.

  182. the fans ran Willie Huber out of town because he couldn’t fight … never mind that he was a decent defender, had a great shot and was really skilled at making the first pass out of the zone.

  183. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Is the 4th line center ever the solution to a team’s problems?_

    By reading this site the past few weeks, it’s clear that most of you believe *toughness* is a characteristic missing from the team. Wouldn’t 4th liners with *toughness* be a solution to one of the many problems with the Rangers roster construction?

    Boyle, Pyatt, Pouliot, and Moore don’t provide any *toughness*.

  184. We have a couple, if not one, jackwagons who are trying to make this place uncomfortable to visit. By design. And we are thoroughly supporting their success. I’ve been here for many years, and if you want to go back 2-3 years ago, you’d notice it’s the same pattern, the same use of words and similarly structured sentences. Different names. Your choice, folks.

  185. Stranger Nation on

    There’s a change in pace
    Of fantasy and taste
    Do you like good music?
    Do you like to dance?

  186. Stranger Nation on

    Fans should run Pyatt out of town because he is too slow and can’t play, not because he can’t fight.

    That and I recently learned he is terrible on the shoot out!

  187. I don’t like my skill players fighting. Which means that, with this roster, everyone here other than Richie, McDonuts, Nash and Henrik better learn to fight. :)

  188. Stranger Nation on

    Thought Huber got hurt when he came to NY and wasn’t all full strength most of his NY stay

  189. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Unless the player is fighting to take a better player off the ice for 5 minutes, as was the case with Boyle fighting Chara, I don’t want any player fighting. Fighting isn’t the *toughness* that all of you bemoan the team lacking. *Toughness* is a player finishing checks, taking the body every chance he gets, among other things.

  190. Good grief! Why does everyone pick on Boyle? The guy is at least doing his job better than the majority of the Rangers squad. I mean there are a whole slew of other players performing far worse that Mr. Boyle.

  191. Kenneth, remember that time you posted Boyle’s faceoff percentage to show he wasn’t that great but it ended up proving he really has been pretty great? That was a lot of fun and I wanted to *thank you* for doing that.

  192. “They might, Jeff. I just ate a Peanut Butter & Jam sandwich.”

    The hairdresser becomes even more clear..

  193. Bickel is fine on a 4th line as a LW as long as he has a good defensive center (Like Boyle) and a quick, spunky agitator on RW (like Dorsett)

    Bickel – Boyle – Dorsett

  194. *The Doctor* as I said above:

    _Basically my 4th line is_

    Heavyweight – Defensive Center and Great face off guy – Middle Weight Agitator

    Bickel – Boyle – Dorsett fits that mold.

  195. EVERYONE flood the offensive zone, score six a game, try to take your man on transition, and hope Henrik keeps them to 5.

  196. Kenneth at 1:04 PM: “Zuccarello is tougher than Boyle.”

    Kenneth at 2:12 PM: “Toughness is a player finishing checks, taking the body every chance he gets, among other things.”

    Boyle hits per 60: 7.7

    Zucc hits per 60: 4.7

    Kenneth, now explain how “among other things” serves to not pit Kenneth versus Kenneth.

  197. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Kenneth, remember that time you posted Boyle’s faceoff percentage to show he wasn’t that great_

    I do remember explaining why Boyle’s 55.1% faceoff rate is not good, taking into account his *cap hit* and his overall skill set. I want to *thank you* for acknowledging my intellectual prowess.

  198. They’re throwing Dorsett to the wolves with the bad hand (they say it’s his left, but very well could be his right)
    That’s how badly this team needs some spunk.

  199. That’s ok, Manny, but if Bickel fills a non-hockey role while hockey sucking, you’ve unsubscribed from the theory.

  200. Having Bickel up would help McRage develop a little better, I believe. He’s going to want to prove his toughness. With Bickel on the 4th (scary but still) just tell the kid to try reaaally hard to not fight and focus on D for a while.

  201. ilb2001, the funny thing about that is the other day the other numbskull actually posted how he has gotten kick off blogs because his main goal is to start arguments and pick on the blog master. He basically admitted he is a troll.

  202. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Mister D,
    The reason why Boyle has more hits per 60 is because when Boyle and his linemates are on the ice, the Rangers possess the puck less than when Zuccarello and his linemates are on the ice. Try again. Watching you bumble and stumble once again is dispiriting.

  203. I’m subscribing to *my* theory by building my *ideal* 4th line. Bickel is the best we have in the organization. So use him.

  204. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Possession of the puck: The most important aspect of hockey. When one team has possession of the puck, it is more likely for that team to score goals and less likely for the other team to score goals.

  205. Bickel smiles, too, like Steps. I’ll take hard working smilers. Little more hard work, Steps.

  206. 64% more hitting explained away by 17% better possession numbers? Don’t quite add up, Kenneth. Better call Lloyd in on this one.

  207. I get texts from NYR nearly every gameday telling me there are tickets available. I guess that’s what happens when you combine overpricing with a poor product on the ice.

    #FireSather

  208. Sather Must Go! on

    Boyle was fine when the team was more balanced… The team used to ave guys sand u and drop the gloves 5-8 times, when warranted.. Dubie, (2 year ago) Cally, Sauer… This shod have Ben par of the mindset when rounding out his roster- Dom Moore, populist, pyatt… Full disclosure, I do like to watch hockey fights, but VERY much prefer a team that is tough enough not to get pushed around

  209. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _64% more hitting explained away by 17% better possession numbers? Don’t quite add up, Kenneth._

    Are you really an accountant?

    Boyle per 60 TOI: 7.7
    Zuccarello per 60 TOI: 4.7

    That’s 39% more hitting.

    Did you make up the possession statistics too? (:

  210. Sather Must Go! on

    Carp, re: huber wasn’t his first pass usually a very high lob out of the defensive zone?….RIP, Willie

  211. Latona,

    I’ve been to about 10 home games this season and at about 6 of them the place was fairly empty. Not surprising given that the tickets are just way too expensive and not everyone is hip to the alternative low-cost ticket purchase options.

  212. matty"WeShouldWearPinkPanties"Boy on

    Manny, do you remember Bickel’s lack of talent? Not too fast. Not an NHL player, is he?

    But, he CAN fight.

  213. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    I am, though, my premise is still correct, More possession of the puck means less hitting. When Zuccarello is on the ice, he and his linemates possess the puck more than when Boyle and his linemates are on the ice.

  214. Stranger Nation on

    Stub Hub has $52 tix in 100s – midweek, early in the season, during holiday party time is never a good selling time but that price is probably what the game is worth.

    Thanks goodness for usurious secondary ticket markets

  215. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    You are still tallying imaginary victories, MrD? Shouldn’t the score be more along the lines of, 7-1 Kenneth, with my only loss being Talbot and Lundqvist, though I all I stated was that any goalie has a possibility of approximating Lundqvist’s regular season success and lack of Stanley Cup.

  216. Stranger Nation on

    In our most successful season in the last 15 years, Stu Bickel played (appeared?) in 51 regular season games and 18 playoff games.

    He is not a skill player, rarely saw the ice in the 3rd period, but he has a role to play and he can perform that role to say nothing of his ability to play forward or defense (at equally poor levels) and face-off if need be…

  217. Rob in Beantown on

    There is a non-zero chance I could wake up tomorrow morning and every single molecule of my body will have spontaneously reorganized making me into an exact clone of Henrik Lundqvist

  218. _I am, though, my premise is still correct, More possession of the puck means less hitting. When Zuccarello is on the ice, he and his linemates possess the puck more than when Boyle and his linemates are on the ice._

    And my calculation granted you a portion of the hit variance as being due to increased puck possession. Unfortunately for you, over 2/3 of the variance remains unexplained. I can wait if you need more time.

  219. I would (literally and physically, if need be) dress Kenneth over Benoit Pouliot if I had the choice. Or Lloyd.

  220. I know that Bickel can’t really skate at the NHL level. I know. But a lot of guys that hit with fists can’t really skate and that’s what they do. They play with a good defensive center (Boyle) and a speedy middleweight agitator (Dorsett) and overall they gain their space on the ice by team play and physicality.

  221. Rob: You were never drafted, just like Talbot, so you’re already, like, half of the way to Lundqvist. Don’t forget us when you make it!

  222. Did Rob play *Juniors* ?

    Also, I meant *2nd* for *Defenseman* in the NHL. Hard to beat the guys that were involved in that 400 PIM game between the NYISles and Senators that season.

  223. I’m going to re-post this because it’s *that* good:

    *Stranger Nation*

    _In our most successful season in the last 15 years, Stu Bickel played (appeared?) in 51 regular season games and 18 playoff games._

    _He is not a skill player, rarely saw the ice in the 3rd period, but he has a role to play and he can perform that role to say nothing of his ability to play forward or defense (at equally poor levels) and face-off if need be_

  224. Notice how Bicks and Haley just skated away, like in just another day at the office? Granted, they were tired.

  225. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    MrD,
    The variance can be explained by their difference in size and weight.

  226. _The variance can be explained by their difference in size and weight._

    Oh, so when you said “tougher”, you meant “tougher relative to size and weight”, not “tougher”. Gotcha.

  227. Certain guys bearing down on you, you flinch. Boyler’s one. Dors is another. Ash if he’s here. Cally, but no assweight. They will all finish. The K learning. That’s about it.

  228. McD is strong as an ox, but with the partner(s) he plays with, he must immediately get back in the play.

  229. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    If two players of disproportionate stature and build are going to be compared in terms of *toughness*, then taking into account those differences is appropriate. Wouldn’t you agree, MrD?

  230. I’ve yet to see an opposing player flinch at an approaching Brian Boyle although I’ve absolutely seen Brian Boyle flinch at an approaching (usually smaller) player.

  231. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Is passing the puck a product of stature or build? *Toughness*?

  232. _Is passing the puck a product of stature or build?_

    How tall is Ryan Callahan, our annual leading hitter?

  233. If Zuccarello gets into a shoving match with Patrick Bordeleau does he *win* relative to their *size* even though his career is over due to being tiny?

  234. If we’re being relative, isn’t Boyle an amazing skater relative to 6’7 human beings? Wow!!!

  235. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _How tall is Ryan Callahan, our annual leading hitter?_

    If you are going to compare the *toughness* of two players, then you must take into account their differences in stature and build. Wouldn’t you agree, MrD?

  236. He actually IS a great skater for his size. That is a *relative* quality because he combines size and speed to find some middle ground. Like in a *video* game when a player is given attributes leading up to an overall rating. I guess.

  237. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _If we’re being relative, isn’t Boyle an amazing skater relative to 6’7 human beings? Wow!!!_

    How do you quantify skating ability, MrD?

  238. I like when *What’s the Frequency Kenneth* finishes all his questions with ” _Wouldn’t You Agree MrD?_ ”

    I think that’s a courtroom tactic for Cross-Examination.

  239. If the basic question is “does being tall make you inherently tough”, my answer is a pretty easy “no”.

  240. I think there were ten of us guys at pre-Thanksgiving this year and half were 6’4+. Losing them early would be *difficult* but due to their inherent toughness, perhaps they’ll *stay alive*?

  241. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    The basic question is “when comparing the relative *toughness* of two hockey players, should their disproportionate stature and build be taken into account?” Your answer to that is a pretty easy “yes.”

  242. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Do you have a statistic on *Uprightedness* for 6’7 -people- hockey players?

  243. _Do you have a statistic on Uprightedness for 6’7 people hockey players?_

    Not sure I could find one, but even if I did, would it make much sense to a guy who can’t do a simple variance calculation?

  244. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    On a relative basis in comparison to today, you’ve sounded equally ignorant on days other than today, Mister D. (:

  245. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _would it make much sense to a guy who can’t do a simple variance calculation_

    Seeing as how you neglected to consider the vast size and weight difference between Zuccarello and Boyle when comparing *toughness*, do you grasp the concept of variance?

  246. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    “A Requirement of Winning: A Study on *Toughness* in the NHL” by Mister Manny D

  247. Blessed are the little centers with extended contracts, for even in adversity, they will find contentment in their long years of cash collection.

  248. Yesterday, I thought adding McIlrath would add toughness to the team, but today I’m smarter and know that at 6’5, the standard for toughness is much higher so we’d be better off adding a very tough person who is 5’9.

  249. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    MrD,
    You’re embarrassing yourself, as usual. It’s dispiriting to witness.

  250. I’m going to go take a shower, Kenneth. While I’m gone, tell people how to calculate variances because that’s something I think you’re going to do really well at the second time around. Good luck, Mister D believes in you!

  251. Vigneault's Vino on

    Are peeps really arguing that the difference in hits signifies more toughness? BB only has two jobs to perform, winning faceoffs and hitting opposing players. Zucc is paid to perform other jobs: score points, forecheck, play responsible defense.

  252. So Brian Burke fires Jay Feaster in Calgary after saying he thought they were doing a good job rebuilding in September. Shocker. I thought Feaster should’ve been fired right after he held on to Iginla for way too long because of unrealistic playoff hopes. Watch Burke either take over himself, or find someone who shares his vision, and start accumulating bangers, power forwards, and hard hitting D-men.

  253. well, Boyle too his credit performs slightly above average in the faceoff departments. However, I will fight to the death the notion that Boyle’s hit totals are in any way indicative of his actual presence on the ice. Guy has the most inflated hit total in the sport.

  254. being soft as a pillow and falling back on “hits” as indicative of a player’s worth is perhaps even more foolish than the notion that only goals matter

  255. Jeff in South Dakota on

    “Their desire to keep living shows me no respect. Hey, Blotto, roll down the window and start shooting.” — Donbot

  256. VV,

    Don’t forget shot blocking and penalty killing, big part of Boyle’s game. And oh yea, getting whipped in the blogs too.

  257. Sioux-per-depressed on

    Time to FIRE UP the Diesel.

    Not going to lie. I hope he hits the H#LL out of them tonight.

    So who has more money on board tonight the Rangers or the Blue Jackets?

    Who gets the game winning goal?

  258. Lloyd, it’s really a shame. I remember back in 06-07 and 07-08 going to that amount of games per season, the tickets being affordable, and the Garden not being totally devoid of atmosphere. Hopefully they’ll go down due to the renovations being paid off, or people not buying them, but I doubt it.

  259. Sioux-per-depressed on

    Carp do they still put the money on the board for the guy that gets the game winning goal against their old team?

  260. Who’s this Dubinsky??

    Talking smack?

    Clown!

    Hope they brought up McIlrath just to knock his block off.

    LGR!!!

  261. Sioux-per-man Fire Up the Diesel on

    Manny don’t forget Bickel is also 100% in faceoffs! Just incase we need him for the 4th line.

  262. I thought I’d review how the Black Hawks have become one of the top 5 organizations in the NHL by taking a look at their drafts,i.e. home grown talent.

    The #1’s the jump out at you are Toews, Kane,Seabrook,#2’s Crawford and Keithstand out.
    Other picks are eother in their system or already in the NHL perhaps with other teams or with the Hawks.

    Wisniewski, Blunden,Barker,Brouwer,Bolland, BickellAliu,Saad,Kruger and Shaw.

    The trade for Sharp has been a good one and they drafted both Timmo Ruutu,Skille and cam Anderson as well, also trading a former #1 Olsen to the Panthers to get Versteeg back a useful player.

    Signing Hossa as a FA fantastic and saving our favorite for last drafted at #8 the Buffer!

    It can be done if you know what your doing , the Ranger organization does not and the blame rests on the shoulders of Sather and Junior for those pictures!

  263. … he’s a defenseman … among forwards, Corey Tropp, 15 games, no goals, two assists.

    And of course another backup goalie.

  264. I’m tallying up the backup goalies who have beaten the NYR … help refresh my memory. I have five — Hutton, Grubauer, Scrivens, Schneider and Frederik Andersen. Two of those threw shutouts, three others allowed 1 GA each. Remember any others?

  265. Loss tonight and I think there’s some movement before our next game. Dubinsky and company coming in and making Sather look bad will make Sather act and that’s scary but also kind of exciting since the guys I care about most aren’t likely to go.

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