Predators 4, Rangers 1 … post-game notes & quotes; Live chat Wednesday at noon

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Post-game notes & quotes courtesy of the Rangers:

Predators 4, Rangers 1.

Click here for boxscore.

Team notes:

– The Rangers continued their franchise record, nine-game homestand, tonight with a 4-1 loss against the Nashville Predators at Madison Square Garden.

– The Blueshirts are now 15-16-1 overall (31 pts), including a 5-8-1 mark at home this season.

– The Rangers’ shutout streak against the Predators ended at 193:35, dating back to the 5:10 mark of the first period in a 2-1 shootout victory on Nov. 27, 2010 at Nashville.

– The Blueshirts’ penalty kill was 2-2 (4:00) in the contest, and has now held opponents scoreless in 12 of the last 15 games (34-37, 91.9% over the span).

– The Rangers were credited with 20 blocked shots, including 12 players who registered at least one blocked shot in the contest.

Player notes:

–        Rick Nash registered his 600th career point with a goal and led all skaters with five shots in 20:49 of ice time. He has notched a goal in five of the last eight games, and has seven points (five goals, two assists) over the span.

–        Brad Richards recorded an assist and two shots in 21:46 of ice time. He has tallied eight points (three goals, five assists) in the last eight games. Richards leads the team in scoring with 24 points, and is now tied for first on the team with 15 assists.

–        Derick Brassard tallied an assist and four shots in a season-high, 21:18 of ice time. He is now six points from his 200th career point.

–        Henrik Lundqvist stopped 22 of 25 shots faced and is now 9-13-1 overall, including a 4-7-1 mark at home this season.

–        Michael Del Zotto registered four shots and was credited with a team-high, four blocked shots in 20:20 of ice time.

–        Dan Girardi recorded a team-high, four hits, and was credited with two blocked shots in 26:35 of ice time. He leads the team with 79 hits and 55 blocked shots on the season.

Quotebook:

Alain Vigneault on tonight’s game… “Well, there were certain areas that we talked about before the game, about trying to be better one-on-one, trying to be a tad more physical when the opportunity was there. I thought we started off alright, but it makes it real challenging when you are down two to nothing early. With the difficulty of our offense right now, as far as scoring goals, it makes it very challenging and that’s what happened tonight.”

Henrik Lundqvist on tonight’s game… “It was not the start we were looking for, obviously, but still after two periods it is just a one goal game. We tried to fight back in the second and in the third, that third goal killed us. The only thing I know right now is it can only go up. Right now it’s extremely tough mentally and you try to be positive, you have to. There are so many games left. It’s just a really tough stretch for us right now where it’s hard to get points. You just have to work through it, stick together and like I said, be positive. It’s definitely a test for all of us.”

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  1. Carp’d

    I think even the die hard Torts haters are starting to wish he was back. They’ll never admit it though.

    AV is a solid coach. He’s not bad. He’s just not the right fit. Not with this team.

    You can’t give the players what they want, clearly. They wanted a nice guy, and it’s not only not working, but it’s making them soft.

    They can hate Torts all they want, but he was the right guy for this team. For a group like this.

    Now that bridge is burned and we’ll be starting from scratch soon enough.

  2. Za'rat "TheOtherGuy'sGreed" Jones on

    Bad news: As far as Dolan is concerned, the rangers are doing amazing. We have 15 wins!!! Knicks have 5. Sather is in the middle of a contract extension as we speak. Jimmy “Crackhead” Dolan won’t change a thing. As long as we have more wins than the Knicks, he thinks we are awesome and he praises Sather.

  3. only true untouchables I think are Kreider, Zuccarello and Hagelin.

    Stepan is too slow and too soft
    McD is too soft, but if he starts hitting instead of reaching with the stick then yeah he is untouchable.
    Miller is close to being untouchable, but needs to show more production in NHL
    John Moore is also close to being untouchable
    Callahan is too injury prone and because of all those injuries he will likely be declining from now on.
    Lundqvist is now untradeable rather than untouchable
    Staal we should have traded to Carolina when we had the chance, soon he will join Sauer.

  4. orr- i was pro torts. to the end. i think richie n hank got him canned. too bad but ever since arniel was hired, brassard has been garbage, and ulfie is totally useless now that hes the d coach. no jam, no onions, no bickel? thats a travesty!

  5. I think it was mostly Hank. I don’t think Bucky O’Hare has that kind of say, Grabby.

    Or maybe it was all the “big guns” on the team. Fuggin sissy mary’s.

    I agree on Arniel. Even though the PP is improved, it was a bizarre move hiring him. Slats using that dopey brain of his.

  6. At this point not sure who they should trade. Could they get more than 3 1st round picks for trading Nash, MDZ, and Hags (Not necessarily in the same trade)? Or do they try to trade for players? Maybe sit tight and let the season be what it will hoping that McIlrath, Kristo, Miller and Lindberg will be ready next year and a few UFA’s will round out the roster? They need toughness, scoring and a couple of D-men who can play 15 to 20 minutes. Good thing the list is not long or full of difficult things to acquire.

  7. This coach is not perfect, but it is hard to teach Tortorella’s dogs new tricks.

    Maybe pokecheking instead of hitting worked in Tortorella’s 6 goalie system, but it isn’t the way real teams play. Real teams actually use the body instead of the precision poke checking (Staal actually started this trend and idiot announcers were praising him for it instead of saying how is that any better than Tom Poti take the body instead of playing the puck.)

    And these players are not used to a coach that is not yelling at them and not lighting fire under their asses. Devils a team full of garbage no name grinders just thoroughly outworked the Rangers.

  8. Looks like this ship is lost at sea, without it’s Captain.

    Good thing we have AV calling the shots.

    Carp how soon can a coach lose his team into the season?

  9. Olga Folkyerself on

    Sather has GM’d this team until all he has left is bunch of bums. And you want to trade almost everybody. What in God’s name do you think he will get in the next round of trades for these guys? This is where a sane owner would say “Bring on the next guy”. Instead, Dolan gives Sather assurances that he is here as long as he wants to be. The only hope left is that Dolan is a liar in almost every thing he says, and it is what an owner does just before he makes a change.

  10. Step was progressing each season.

    1st – 82 games: 21 goals, 45 points
    2nd – 82 games: 17 goals, 51 points
    3rd – 48 games: 18 goals, 44 points

    That holdout really fugged him up, along with the system change.

    He’ll bounce back though. Still only 23. I wouldn’t worry aboot him.

  11. Zuccarello is 5 times the player Stepan is and 3 times cheaper.

    Stepan should be traded for a good power forward.

  12. Za'rat "TheOtherGuy'sGreed" Jones on

    Every fan of every team told me that the only reason Hank plays well is because he had 5 other people playing goal for him. I did not believe them. However they were all correct. Tortorella knew it and implemented that system. Hank them did something stupid and got him canned. Probably cause he’s a stupid moron. Cared only about himself and his money. I wish there were a stipulation in the CBA that could void contracts. Maybe if they charge him with fraud it could be nullified?

  13. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    The Rangers organization is not prepared to tank. Being in this weak division, they will try to make the playoffs. Once a team get into the playoffs, anything can happen. That holds true especially *if* a team has a goalie that step up his game and carry a team. The Rangers don’t, but management, coaching staff and the fan base think so.

  14. I don’t think Hags or MDZ are worth 1st round picks.

    I wouldn’t trade Nash for a 1st round pick unless it’s guaranteed 1st overall.

    Last thing we need is trading our best forward for a draft pick that ends up being Jessiwoman.

  15. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Every fan of every team told me that the only reason Hank plays well is because he had 5 other people playing goal for him_

    That is probably what it is, although it’s too small a sample size to come to any conclusive determination.

    The same fans that now deride the Rangers defense in defense of Hank must see the irony, right?

  16. I wouldn’t trade Hagelin for a 1st rounder, he is a very useful player even if he never scores more than 40 points.

    Del Zotto should get a boost in trade value with Staal out, so we might get a good return for him.

  17. step is not being challenged enough as his 3 previous seasons like torts did. torts may have been a richards arse, but he knew what buttons to push. AV looks like an ordinary coach given a less than average roster. hey, torts may never win another cup again, but he still has more than AV. its easy to want torts back now that were crappy. idk, i just hope sather retires very soon.

  18. Slatsko Folkyerself on

    Sather is the one that should be charged with fraud. He said that with the Rangers payroll he would win the Cup every year.

  19. “I would take Stepan over Zucc and I think we could get a real good player for Stepan but he is the best center the team has. Trading him seems crazy.”

    not crazy if you trade him for another good center that actually plays more gritty game. Brassard could step into Stepan’s spot too and we would still suck so who cares, maybe Brassard would actually flourish.

  20. Za'rat "TheOtherGuy'sGreed" Jones on

    @QQQ

    You wouldn’t trade Hags for a first round pick? You need to put down the booze. You’ve had enough.

  21. Slatsko Folkyerself on

    “I’ll say it first: Henrik Lundqvist is a greedy stupid doody-head!”

    I hope you’re the last, too…

  22. ORR I think very highly of Zuccarello, but Stepan never really impressed me. Zuccarello make a lot more great passes, is a lot faster, a lot more creative and is a lot more physical and gritty.

  23. Za'rat "TheOtherGuy'sGreed" Jones on

    Yeah, Sather almost had Stamkos. If only he were shaking hands with the guy who had the power to make the deal. Read the story again.

  24. Slatsko Folkyerself on

    Who’s going to want to trade for Stepan if they already have “a good center that plays a more gritty game”?

    Sather is the only one stupid enough to do that, and he’s the one that has Stepan.

  25. Zuccarello 42 hits in 31 games

    Stepan 16 hits in 32 games

    Zuccarello gladly accepted small salary, Stepan held out and can’t produce any points in the playoffs.

  26. Slatsko Folkyerself on

    Sather: “You want to trade Stepan for Stamkos?”
    TB GM: “No”
    SAther: “Rats! I ALMOST had Stamkos. If he only said yes…”

  27. “Who’s going to want to trade for Stepan if they already have “a good center that plays a more gritty game”?”

    maybe they are not happy with their center for some reason, or their center is making too much money or we throw in prospects/picks in the deal.

  28. The center I want is Martin Hanzal and I would gladly trade Stepan and several of our prospects for him.

  29. Za'rat "TheOtherGuy'sGreed" Jones on

    @Slatsko

    It was more like this.

    Slats: what can I do to get Stamkos?

    TB: come with me to the men’s room and get on your knees

    (5 mins later)

    Slats: ok, when can I expect him?

    TB: let me ask my owner. I don’t actually have any power to make trades. But I’ll put in a good word for you.

    Slats: what!?!?!?!

  30. “You wouldn’t trade Hags for a first round pick? You need to put down the booze. You’ve had enough.”

    depends which position. top 5 sure. Bottom 15 no way, the rest depens who is available in the draft.

  31. “QQQ You mean kinda like the trade for Ryan Clowe?”

    no, Hanzal is no Clowe. Clowe was a UFA and was slowing down in scoring and aging, Hanzal is on the rise.

  32. Slatsko Folkyerself on

    All I’m saying is I wouldn’t trust Sather to trade hockey cards of players, let alone actual players.

  33. Yeah Sather doesn’t really understand the concept of “what have you done recently?” or concept of “potential” or concept of “injuries factor” or concept of “getting at least something in return for the players that you don’t need” or concept of “buy low sell high”

  34. Slatsko Folkyerself on

    Actually Sather has a pretty good hockey brain. Trouble is, his brain is in his head, and his head is up his ass.

  35. Za'rat "TheOtherGuy'sGreed" Jones on

    @slatsko

    You can’t kill him either. He has Sather in his will. Guess what he left in his will for El Slatster.

  36. Za'rat "TheOtherGuy'sGreed" Jones on

    I’ll give you 2 guesses.

    Here’s a hint: it over pays, under performs, sleeps at work, and won’t let anything ruin their thanksgiving.

  37. So we got Pyatt 1 assist in 21 games -9 and is the slowest skater in the NHL and we got Dom Moore 24 games 1 assist and -10 what are these 2 still doing on a team that has problems scoring? Either trade them or demote them to Hartford. These 2 are useless.

    Very surprised that Boyle managed 6 points in 32 games, because he too is useless and should be traded.

  38. Re: “Once a team gets into the playoffs, anything can happen.” While that is true the biggest pitfall G.M.s in this league face is “building to make the playoffs,” rather than building to win the Stanley Cup.

    This is how, entirely too often, downside veterans are acquired by .500 teams at the expense of upside kids or depleting draft choices. (The “Vinny Prospal Syndrome” you could call it.)

    It’s a shame that 16 teams make the post-season. If just four or eight teams made the post-season, all teams would have to build for major success, not just marginal success, which is not really success at all, it is more akin to mediocrity.

  39. Slatsko Folkyerself on

    QQQ- you don’t seem to understand trading. If they are useless, who would want to trade anything for them? (Besides Sather?)

  40. Slatsko Folkyerself on

    “Once a team gets into the playoffs, anything can happen.”

    And if you barely squeak in, or burn out your team just trying to make it to the playoffs(like pretty much every Sather team), the “anything” is 99% bad.

  41. Slatsko Folkyerself on

    Actually, the perfect job for Sather is to get a job on Hockey Night in Canada with Don Cherry. They would make a perfect team, and I can ignore them both at the same time. Instead of stupid suits, he could wear those stupid Broadway hats from the Rangers locker room.

  42. Za'rat "TheOtherGuy'sGreed" Jones on

    Olga

    Why you celebrating a hawks win? Are you one of those “it’s my 2nd team” yoyos?

    That’s pathetic. You pick one team and live and die by that team. That’s the rule of being a fan. Obey! Or risk losing the full joy of a championship! I know this well. I still watch highlights of SB42. I still get chills of the memories of the feeling of that win.

    Beware of your fandom. Guard it with your life!!!!

  43. Bless Dick Clark’s heart – he once referred to Skeeter Davis, guesting on his show, as “Miss Skeeter.” They don’t make men like that, any more. lol

  44. Thank you, Slatsko, for being right on the money. So it seems we needed to run Torts out of the building, and now we need to run AV back to the Klondike. Actually, when no coach is successful with a team, it is an indictment of ownership and front office management. Ours is rapidly approaching being a caricature of what real, professional sports team administration should look like. Want to be successful = turn the New York Rangers management philosophy upside down.

  45. Let’s trade Hags for a first round pick so that we can lose Hags and keep the first round pick in Hartford until he is 26 and old enough to ride The Harford Shuttle by himself.

  46. Stranger Nation on

    thanks for the entertainment catching up on the comments. Laughing while I’m crying.

    Olga = Nostradamus

  47. Stranger Nation on

    Slatsko Folkyerself
    Actually Sather has a pretty good hockey brain. Trouble is, his brain is in his head, and his head is up his ass.

    December 11th, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    ——-

    Ditto

  48. Not tough enough on

    This is amazing right now ,I actually thought this team would make a run at cup but right now they will have a very hard time making playoffs,they still are not tough enough,every team comes into the garden and just physically destroys them,D never moves anyone from in front and they have no one who can stick up for anyone.Will they ever win at home again,this stretch was suppose to help them make some noise and it has ,its a big THUD can you hear it.Finally, get rid of Sather.This team I love has become hard to watch.

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