Rangers-Jets in review; Live Chat today at noon

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Thoughts:

1) So much for the goalie controversy. I thought it was silly and premature. If you want to discuss the possibilities of, eventually, Cam Talbot being considered good enough to be a No. 1, and entertain the notion that Henrik Lundqvist might not be re-signed, or might be traded, well, that’s one thing even if it’s far off in the future at best. If you want to say that Talbot getting a second straight start is a controversy. Nonsense.Winnipeg Jets v New York Rangers

2) Click here for my story from Lohud.com on that very issue.

3) NHL realignment? Yes!!! More of these non-conference snoozers, please! Seriously, what in holy hell were the board of governors thinking with this jackass plan? Hey, let’s have fewer games with playoff implications! Even better, let’s take away one Rangers game against Boston, one against Montreal, one against Toronto, et al, so that they can play two against Calgary, two against Dallas, two against Nashville … etc. Idiotic.

4) Cam Talbot. I’m not blaming him one bit. He allowed four goals and had at least two clangers off the pipes, and yeah, maybe he could have stopped a couple of them. But the Rangers in front of him played horribly most of this game, by far the worst they’ve played in his eight starts. Fancy. Careless. Soft. They didn’t use their speed or, in a lot of cases, their brains. Too bad because it was a pretty solid start to the game, and Atlanta, er, I mean Winnipeg, gave them every chance to stay in the game until beyond the middle of the third period.Winnipeg Jets v New York Rangers

5) And games like these are exactly why the Rangers are .500 with more than a third of the season gone. Not nearly good enough. Their defense had, collectively, another tough night. Dan Girardi had some nightmarish shifts. Marc Staal, Anton Stralman, Michael Del Zotto, too. Not that the forwards were a lot better. Mucho coasting out there in the middle period and beyond. Five goals against in the final 32 minutes.

6) On the plus side, Mats Zuccarello scored the 1-0 goal a tip from Ryan McDonagh. Players planted in front, and deflections seem to have, almost overnight, become a priority and a strength of the Rangers’ offense, and a reason why their power play is better this season. Though I would love to know where Ellerby was passing that puck.

7) Speaking of passes, Derick Brassard can’t make that pass he coughed up, not midway through the second period of a 1-1 game, when Winnipeg was dictating with the tying goal and two posts already in the period. He was immediately demoted to the fourth line.Winnipeg Jets v New York Rangers

8) I think the former coach might have called a timeout and read the riot act there. This coach saves his timeouts.

9) I thought Ryan Callahan, Carl Hagelin and Zuccarello all played their best games in a while.

10) Talking to a scout between periods. Asked him if his team is interested in Lundqvist. He said, “yeah, that’s why I had to get here for warmups.”

11) I like Justin Falk’s willingness and his game wasn’t awful … but I truly wonder if being paired with Michael Del Zotto is best for him, and vice versa. I don’t imagine that was a very good showcase of Del Zotto, if that’s what it was.

12) Some things I’m starting to like about Alain Vigneault. A) He’s got a little bit of an edge to him. Like yesterday, when he was being peppered with questions about the goalie situation and the “controversy.” According to our friend Andrew Gross, AV looked at Rangers-logo backdrop behind him and joked, “Does it say back here that I’m a rookie coach?” Then added, “Take another shot at it.” And B) I like that he knows he’s a good coach — and he is — and that he will kinda tell you so. I also like the way he’s not afraid to point out a poor play, or a player who played poorly.

Winnipeg Jets v New York Rangers13) Didn’t write about this after Saturday’s game because I didn’t know it until I watched the DVR’d game the next day. John Giannone gave us the kind of report we should get more from those between-benches reporters. He told us that Tom Sestito, after clubbing Michael Del Zotto, skated past the Rangers bench and mouthed off to Ryan Callahan, and everybody, “what are you going to do about it?” and spouted that there really was nobody on the bench who could do anything about it. Good stuff from Giannone. (Unlike Pierre McGuire, who turned off his microphone when John Tortorella and Pete DeBoer were going at it once upon a time).

14) If I had known about that exchange that day, I would have given Derek Dorsett one of my three stars for going out and fighting Sestito shortly after. PS, Sestito and Dorsett are tied for the NHL lead in fighting majors with nine apiece.

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My Three Rangers Stars:Winnipeg Jets v New York Rangers
1. Mats Zuccarello.
2. Ryan Callahan.
3. Carl Hagelin.
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Headzo’s Three Rangers Stars:
1. Zucc – Scored on a nice deflection & had his name called all night.
2. Cally – Contributes a blue collar goal. Hopefully the slumpbuster.
3. Nash – Had some opportunities & displayed his world class shot. No twine however,
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Your poll vote for Three Rangers Stars:
1. Mats Zuccarello.
2. Ryan McDonagh.
3. Ryan Callahan.
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162 Comments

  1. Good review. Good article Carp.
    Given the strange decisions made by Slats regarding Richards, its a little worrying that there is no contract for Hank in place yet. That said, i’m not overly worried but the closer we get to Christmas and then the trade deadline it does make you think!

  2. Possibly just as worrying for me is that Cally was quoted as saying “absolutely nothing going on there” about his contract. Is he smartly deflecting the attention away, or is he really only a few months away from being an ex-Ranger?
    Can’t imagine this team without Cally wearing the C and Hank between the pipes.

  3. I’m no hockey coach but I don’t like the way we see 2 defense below the icing line or behind the net leaving the slot and front of the net guarded by a forward as seems to happen often. We also seem to have a bad habit of coughing up the puck right into that area when we do win battles behind the net.

    Also, I can’t imagine those scouts were all there looking at MDZ and Pouliot – got to be some others being quietly dangled by Slats as trade bait.

  4. Jeez…I told AV he should pair MDZ with Staal a month ago. Would do wonders for Staal’s trade value.

  5. One problem is setting an example by rewarding a BR with the money for standing in the slot, instead of getting into the blue paint when his linemates are mucking and working the puck on the boards. Not only should he be bought out, he should be sent home right now. Nice writeup, Carp, as usual. Thank you for your insights and analysis. Unfortunately, you are right on the mark about this team’s effort after the first period. Back to the hibernation cave…wake me up in May or June. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  6. How about this clown coach using a timeout at any given point. What does it take. Brassard makes yet another awful turnover Send a message sit him. Do something.

    This is who they are. Hovering around 500.

    Best case scenario finish 3rd in div get in on final day of season. Play capitals for 3rd straight year. Eventually they will beat rangers.

    Worse case go 3-6 on this upcoming home stand and season is in shambles.

    This up and down is infuriating with a 5-6 record on home ice. Unacceptable.

  7. I agree
    This team would be better with Ulfie on the ice than behind the bench – maybe he’s a reason for the D regression

    And that Testito story has me fuming…he let his Doberman sheet on our lawn and Torts told him to do it. Geez what an insulting callout. Dorsett is now my favorite player.

  8. Stranger Nation on

    Talbot was lucky it wasn’t 9 – 2 after the game. He had made some great stops in front prior and every goal was either a forward with time and space in front (thank you MEZ) or a forward being allowed to dance around the crease unimpeded. Break away was the one he should have stopped IMHO.

    MEZ was just a disaster in his own end. Good work moving it out of the zone and rushing up ice if given time, but flat footed and watching the world around him in own zone. Please put J Moore back in.

    Stalled has not looked good for a while and this is even more concerning as he was being counted on to be a rock back there.

    Girardi had some rough shifts but he was paired with MEZ so not sure how that math works out. He had just skated by Brassard on the intercepted pass play. Where the Byfuglein is he going?

    Everyone talks about scoring, but they need some backline help in the worst way.

    Richards moved back to center and game over…

    Oh yeah – how about a heavy or even light heavy Uncle Glennie?
    Paging Mr. Bickel, Paging Mashinter, Paging Haley, hello…hello

    500 team that needs something sounds like a trade to me. Once again we need to do mid season surgery on the mess Dr. Strangeglove put together. Pullout?? really? We are too small and soft. Speed doesn’t matter if you don’t use it.

    Job for life…what a deal

  9. Shoot the puck Barry on

    Great review.

    I do have to disagree about playing non conference teams though. I always thought it was a mistake to go away from playing every team in the league at least twice….watching six or eight rangers/islander games gets a bit much. If you want to be the best you need to skate against all types of teams

  10. Matty"WeShouldWearPinkPanties!!"Boy on

    Great wrap up of a nothing, who cares??? game. Except it matters in the standings and teams like this seem to get us more than we get them.

    HEY, GLEN, Friday, Chara pulls Boyle aside and whips him. Lucic runs wherever he wants. The team manhandles our girls

    On Saturday, we win, some timely goals. But still show our pink by getting whipped at games end. Tositio’s taunts our boys and the best we can do is send out….a ……190 lb’er for his 2nd in 2 days????? It’s called respect. There is none for our ‘size, grit, playable toughness.

    Last night, again, the big players, Buffy, the Kanes, anyone with size, cuts through these ladies. “What are ya gonna do about it” is all they now hear. Winnipeg takes physical advantage of the matchup.

    Teams around the league have taken note of what we already know. This team is a bunch of girls. Time for some men OR expect their self esteem to be at .500 or less, expect some “shy away” efforts and expect some injuries, physical or emotional, but it’s not positive for having a good record.

    Glen, in case you don’t realize, in your 30 years of mostly wasted time, the game has changed. DId you notice guys 6.9″ that can play? Guys like Lucic? That can play? They’re all around you. Perhaps you should help out your helpless team and look for a few.

    Or leave.

  11. When Dorsett inevitably fights Prust, I might implode from my worlds colliding

    What to do
    What to do
    What to do

    The trauma might just turn me into a hoarder

  12. Matty"WeShouldWearPinkPanties!!"Boy on

    Sather: “But I brought in Zuccarello. He’s got grit and skill. I don’t get why he can’t play against Lucic and Chara.”

  13. But, seriously, this team is a high- school girls-league clown-show.

    Like was said above, we get manhandled by any squad with size, so it’s time to bring back the Fedetenkos of the world.

  14. Onecupin74yearsandcounting on

    I think the rangers have enough desirable players to make a great trade to improve the club.
    However, I really believe Sather is a poor judge of talent and any trade he makes is usually for a washed out # 1 pick from the past.The usual clubs he trades with Phoenix, Edmonton and recently Columbus.

  15. Matty"WeShouldWearPinkPanties!!"Boy on

    Aside from the emotional and physical pounding the guys get every night, you’d think the moron would wrap up a contract or two to show some important players like Cally, Hank that he wants them.

    No, everyone says it’s “not his style”. Well, that’s one of the problems. It’s 2013, not 1977. Given the questions media can ask, tweets, internet, everyone is aware of every little corner of the league. For Cally to say “absolutely nothing doing” about his contract……the demoralization is evident in his tone and body language. Guys that want to stay are being put off…..possibly forced to go FA first. That’s a gamble with them and their psyches during their final season.

    Aside from getting pulverized at any turn by bigger, stronger, players, now, he has to think he may not be resigned (‘after all he’s done”). That’s a one-two punch.

    Gee, wonder why Girardi, Cally, Hank are having very average years, at best…….

  16. Apparently he’s waiting for the Gocernor’s Meeting to get a better reading on the state of world domination … I mean, salary cap.

  17. Onecupin74yearsandcounting on

    If a player is pouting because of a pending contract instead of playing their ass off for a better contract.. well I say “good riddence”..or “here are some crumbs” but not a huge payday.. and thats for all players.

  18. Hank spent the last ten minutes of the third in the locker rom eating fried chicken and beers

  19. Stranger Nation on

    Talbot was lucky it wasn’t 9 – 2 after the game. He had made some great stops in front and every goal was either a forward with time and space in front (thank you MEZ) or a forward being allowed to dance around the crease unimpeded. The break away was the one he should have stopped IMHO.

    MEZ was just a disaster in his own end. Good work moving it out of the zone and rushing up ice if given time, but flat footed and watching the world around him in own zone. Please put J Moore back in.

    Stalled has not looked good for a while and this is even more concerning.

    Girardi had some rough shifts but he was paired with MEZ so not sure how that math works out. He had just skated by Brassard on the intercepted pass play. Where the Byfuglein is he going?

    Everyone talks about scoring, but they need some back-line help in the worst way.

    Richards moved back to center and game over…

    Oh yeah – how about a heavy or even light heavy Uncle Glennie?
    Paging Mr. Bickel, Paging Mashinter, Paging Haley, hello…hello

    500 team that needs something…sounds like a trade to me. Once again we need to do mid season surgery on the mess Dr. Strangeglove put together. Pullout?? really? We are too small and soft. Speed doesn’t matter if you don’t use it.

    Job for life…what a deal

  20. As for Tostitos – he got away with one because the other player shoved a defenceless MDZ into his path. Huge Kudos for Dorse for jumping in there and giving away 6-7 inches and 40lbs but after the last 2 games we need a big guy who can play a bit AND throw them. Pouliot is a waste of a roster spot, i’d rather us get a guy like Chris Neil or call up McIlrath and let him do his thing and play 11-12 mins on 3rd pair.

  21. #4. *YES* They had no brains. Too many guys making lazy, blind passes to the center of the zone without thinking about the consequences.

    I don’t blame Talbot for this. The only goal that’s on him is the breakaway and the breakaway aspect wasn’t his fault. Although he did make at least one bonehead play with the puck.

    Welcome back, Denny Duberstein!

  22. Also agree with your wonderful review, Carp in that I believe Falk should be paired with John Moore or Del Zotto with John Moore. John Moore has to be a fixture on the 3rd pair because of his speed.

  23. Stranger Nation on

    Talbot was lucky it wasn’t 9 – 2 after the game. He had made some great stops in front and every goal was either a forward with time and space in front (thank you MEZ) or a forward being allowed to dance around the crease unimpeded. The break away was the one he should have stopped IMHO.

  24. Stranger Nation on

    MEZ was just a disaster in his own end. Good work moving it out of the zone and rushing up ice if given time, but flat footed and watching the world around him in own zone. Please put J Moore back in.

    Stalled has not looked good for a while and this is even more concerning.

    Girardi had some rough shifts but he was paired with MEZ so not sure how that math works out. He had just skated by Brassard on the intercepted pass play. Where the Byfuglein is he going?

  25. Stranger Nation on

    Everyone talks about scoring, but they need some back-line help in the worst way.

    Oh yeah – how about a heavy or even light heavy Uncle Glennie?
    Paging Mr. Bickel, Paging Mashinter, Paging Haley, hello…hello

    500 team that needs something…sounds like a trade to me. Once again we need to do mid season surgery on the mess Dr. Strangeglove put together. Pullout?? really? We are too small and soft. Speed doesn’t matter if you don’t use it.

    Job for life…what a deal

  26. Stranger Nation on

    MEZ was just a disaster in his own end. Good work moving it out of the zone and rushing up ice if given time, but flat footed and watching the world around him in own zone. Please put J Moore back in.

    Stalled has not looked good for a while and this is even more concerning.

    Girardi had some rough shifts but he was paired with MEZ so not sure how that math works out. He had just skated by Brassard on the intercepted pass play. Where the Byfuglein is he going?

  27. Great summary, Carp. Disagree somewhat about my boy, #4, however. I thought Del Zotto was skating well and was being the offensive-minded DMan that AV said the wanted.
    Having said that, there was a lot of stick-checking last night…again! Too much retreating on defense and not enough standing up at the Blue line; the same tactic used against Boston in the loss last Friday.
    Time to bring up The Undertaker. If I am the coach, that taunt by Tostitos is the last straw. That will get around the league in a big hurry. This team needs to regain that “sandpaper grit” they had a few years ago.

  28. The rangers need more than 1 gritty, tough guy who can throw them when called for it. This team is so soft it’s disgusting and embarrassing.

  29. Sather Must Go! on

    .. Nice review Carp, – Unforn, the team has proivided its own identity this Year: “SOFT” – a somwhat address-able issue in off season that Slats dealt with by signing Dom Moore, Pouliot, and releasing Asham.

    From what I see, AV is a really good Coach and tough (just not a yeller like Torts)..he was given an extremely SOFT team in a more physical conference – tough situation for him..

    Now that this is an obvious issue, all teams will continue to take runs nd challenge any Ranger – even fast, smaller guys will take runs – Girardi and Stahlman will not make it through the season if this keep up…just waiting for that one hot on BRICH.

  30. jimG the desertrat on

    Man that was one demoralizing game. Been watching this team since Phil Goyette was Frenching up the ice. Carp spot on.

  31. “Some things I’m starting to like about Alain Vigneault. A) He’s got a little bit of an edge to him. ”

    Oh media narrative.

  32. The most maddening aspect of the softness of this team is that some of us were lamenting that fact 6 freakin’ months ago.

    I mean if we can see, why the hell can’t the rich man’s son’s job for lifer? I mean, this is the dude who gave out lucrative contracts to a series of aging goons…

    WTF? Is he going senile or something?

    FIRE SATHER!

  33. Byfuglien is shockingly fast. He just kind of hides out there and then goes crazy for 10 seconds.

  34. Our coach has asked, “are we a .500 team”?

    Yes! Although average would be a better description.

    As of this a.m. there are 18 teams with better records and 1 with the same record.

    Should he be optimistic about the balance of the season with one proven goal scorer with an injury history, and a defense which will continue to be hammered by bigger more aggressive teams?

    PS, obviously Falk will deter no one and Dorsett and the laughable Boyle are the “light bag and the heavy bag” for their opponents.

    Thanks for another average roster Sather!

  35. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Max Pacioretty scored a PP goal, Rick Nash had 0 points. Weighting yesterday’s games more than every other game, trade Nash for Pacioretty, to save cap space.

  36. Seriously Manny, he is a beast! That move he made (I forget who it was against) to hit the post over Talbot was a thing of beauty, even if the puck didn’t go in.

  37. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Nobody wanted Byfuglien because he’s overweight. Why should anyone care that he’s a 1st pair D that would be our best scoring D? Goals don’t matter. Byfuglien is a role player.

  38. Kenny, you’re making yourself look bad implying you wouldn’t make the deal otherwise ;)

  39. It’s amazing that all 6 defenseman can play so poorly, the forwards create odd man rushes against because they can’t get the puck deep, and then all we hear is DelZotto hate. The -3 include the EN goal. What did MDZ play with Girardi, 2 shifts at the end of the game? That gets Girardi off the hook? The “Staalman” combo was bad the whole game, and McDonough got caught up ice the entire game.

  40. Sather Must Go! on

    Get a trade done with Buufalo for Marcus Foligno and Cody McCormick (for del z and something else)…bring up Bickel/mcylrath to replace; have Mash travel with the big club (and/or bury pyatt)…something like this would help change then identity..

  41. Too bad there’s no relegation to bury this team in the A(mateur)H(our)L(eague), where it belongs.

  42. *BICKEL* should be playing forward on the 4th line instead of Pullout.

    Also, Hagelin ended up on the 4th line. He is *not* a 4th line player. Even if he’s playing poorly.

  43. I think the biggest disappointment, for me, is that the defense has played so inconsistently. That, and the goaltending hasn’t bailed them out as much when they break down. Though, in fairness, they’ve broken down a lot more than I can remember in the last few years.

    I don’t think anyone expected them to put up more than 2.5 goals per game with the roster they had, but figured they could win more often than not at that pace.

    That said, they are still .500 and a winning streak away from looking a lot better in the standings.

  44. Well said, Gravy. Hopefully the winning streak (if it comes) isn’t broken up by the stupid Olympics.

    On another note, what does WBM mean? I think I missed that.

  45. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Byfuglien was overweight this past offseason according to many on this site. He is currently a D.

  46. That’s a great website idea, Rob. From what I understand, when he’s overweight he plays Forward and when he’s not overweight he plays Defense.

  47. Yergs, it’s Whipping Boy Meter…the measure of who the boneheads rag on the most, almost regardless of performance.

    And Boyle is always #0.

  48. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Yes, he trimmed down this offseason, according to articles. That doesn’t matter. I won’t get diverted off topic. Nobody wanted Byfuglien because he’s overweight. Why should anyone care that he’s a 1st pair D that would be our best scoring D? Goals don’t matter. Byfuglien is a role player.

  49. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _The Thrashers moved Byfuglien back to his natural position of defense, although he had experience as a first-line and second-line winger with the Blackhawks, including the Blackhawks’ run to the Stanley Cup in 2010._

  50. John Albert – REALLY!

    Rookie, 1’st Game, 1’st NHL goal.

    Is this going to happen *EVERY* game?

    Sure glad we can’t call up a goal scorer and have our rookie score one on the other team. But we can watch every others teams rookie score on ours!

  51. matty"PlayTough"boy on

    Kenneth, @9:26am, I am beginning to believe you were placed here as an irritant.

    If you go back and actually READ what I said in that post, I was using ‘Bfyglien’ as an adjective, as we do here on this blog, and NOT talking about the guy’s play. He’s an excellent, almost franchise player, moron, and I wish we had him.

    Read completely, look up words on Wikipedia that are too big for you, ask questions, and if you need to, then comment.

  52. Sather Must Go! on

    Gravy, right on…the “with this roster” thing is the real question…how did we go from President Cup contender in the last FULL Season track to mediocre/also rans with zero toughness? oh yeah, we did change the core to a Columbus team that finished last in the Conference in that last full year, supplemented by pouliot, Pyatt and Dom Moore…

    Sather!

  53. matty"WeShouldWearPinkPanties"boy on

    Sheesh, he’s the Avery, Claude Lemieux, Booby Clarke of this blog. Agitator.

    Don’t mind it if the comment’s intelligent and has basis. Most from his sector don’t.

  54. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Um, you said that the Blackhawks broke up their team as the Rangers did in the Nash trade. Since the Rangers only got rid of expendable role players like Dubinsky and Anisimov, in order to compare the two teams, you must also think that Byfuglien is a role player. I shouldn’t have expected you to catch onto that.

  55. Byfuglein’s played both positions for a long time.

    He’s from this area, watched him play high school. He was always a big boy. Went to play juniors in Canada, and got noticed when a scout was there to watch someone else. He dominated the game.

    Story is they had no names to pick for the 245 position, so a scout threw out his name on a 1 game performance, and they picked him.

    I’d say it worked out well for them.

  56. I like comments such as “would be our best scoring D” as if he wouldn’t be 27 out of 30 teams “best scoring D”.

  57. SN, get it done. I’d trade MotZ and Pyatt in deals to get those D pairings.

    SMG, I think it’s a combination of a lot of things. The bottom 6 turnover last year, Gaborik declining then traded, Richards declining (he was actually pretty good in year 1). The problem with scoring less than 3 per game is that you don’t leave yourself much room for error. And there have been quite a few errors.

    It stinks that they’re .500, but they’re 12-8 in their last 20. If they continue at that pace (not guaranteed of course), they will make the playoffs comfortably.

  58. Big Buff was a role player for the Hawks. He crashed the net for the Hawks, they couldn’t move him out of the crease and he got 11 goals in the playoffs.

    To bad Boyle couldn’t get more standing in front of the net for the Rangers.

  59. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _I like comments such as “would be our best scoring D” as if he wouldn’t be 27 out of 30 teams “best scoring D_

    Yet nobody wanted him because of his weight. Logical. (:

  60. Good morning, Sally! 1 hour til chat.

    Stranger, sorry. You had a pretty funny typo that kept kicking it over to the moderation queue.

  61. Pacioretty would be our leading goal scorer by 3 despite playing 8 less games than our team and you don’t want him.

  62. Sather Must Go! on

    Yeah, it’s just that the roster is obv poorly constructed; if you we gonna go with average skill there sold be some grit and grind…I really think Sather tight going in that the skill level(Nash, birch, brass, step) was higher than it actually is..no excuse for the lack of toughness.

    Btw, The ducks got Tim Jackman for a sixth rd pick…mike brown was moved and Steve Donnie traded…there were guys out there on the relative cheap to address the softness issue..

  63. Stranger Nation on

    As pointed out above, in the Leastern we are an above 500 team. In general we will beat the teams below 500 (Panthers, sabres) and lose to the teams above 500 (Bolts, Bs).
    Throw in a rare Pissburg win or Debbies loss (ok, not so rare) and you have a soft pile of ‘stuff’ we have to watch all season.
    Yuck

  64. I haven’t posted much here this season. I am just too disappointed to even talk about this team. I am officially giving up on this season. They don’t seem like they care, so why should I?
    With players like Callahan, Nash, Stepan, THE Kreider, Richards, Brassard… and to a lesser extent, Zucc and Hagelin, this team has enough talent to score. Maybe not 5 a game, but there is enough for 3 a game. The problem is not with talent. The issue is between the ears. That isn’t changing any time soon, so I give up. The team needs brain transplants more than an infusion of talent. Talent would be wasted on this group.

  65. So call up the McIlrath, for some toughness. Don’t you think he could manage 10 minutes per game?

    Del Zotto the odd D man out. He has upside, just not enough to get the player/trade in return as of today.

  66. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _Pacioretty would be our leading goal scorer by 3 despite playing 8 less games than our team and you don’t want him._

    Byfuglien has a lengthier track record of success than Pacioretty. You’re wrong. Move on.

  67. Rangers have a softer schedule in December, with 10 games at home out of the next 14. They could go 10-4, if they don’t fall asleep like last night.

    Sitting Hank might wake him up.

  68. I think the guys the Rangers got rid of (Mitchell, Dubinsky, Fedotenko, etc._ turned out to be pretty irreplaceable and not expendable.

  69. Last night was a pretty “soft” schedule with the Jets without their best player. You can’t get much easier than that (except Buffalo on Thursday).

  70. Funny, if I had the WBM back in 2011-12, it probably would have been something like:

    1) Dubinsky
    2) Mitchell
    3) Bickel
    4) Anisimov
    5) Fedotenko

  71. That’s what *sucks* with this team Manny. They can’t be dropping games *AT HOME* to the _softer_ teams.

  72. Definitely not bridge jumping yet, but the Rangers are going to all but make sure that the only way they will make the playoffs is by finishing in the top 3 in the division. I really don’t think we will have a chance at a wild card spot. Consistently inconsistent is not good enough. The Jets are not an awful team, but a Kaneless Jets team should have been beatable last night. You could see as soon as the 2nd period started that this game had bad news written all over it. I don’t know if they thought because they scored 5 goals on Saturday that all of a sudden they were the hockey equivalent of the Harlem Globetrotters, but the amount of cross ice passes that were picked off and unforced turnovers was pathetic. We don’t have the skill to win that way. One trade for a scorer won’t give us the skill to play that way either. Olli Jokinen? OLLI JOKINEN???? Come on!!! What happened, he grew some hair and decided to score some goals again?? Man. Just awful.

  73. Rob in Beantown on

    LOL at least I had Pavelec in that one last night. I should probably start Miller on Thursday night, right?

  74. _Byfuglien has a lengthier track record of success than Pacioretty. You’re wrong. Move on._

    He certainly has a lengthier track record, I’ll give you that.

  75. The Rangers had toughness… couldn’t score. Added scoring and lost toughness… still can’t score. Ouch.

  76. It was a lot tougher/dumber to whine about Mitchell because he wasn’t given the linemates Pouliot has gotten. Even without help, he scored basically at Pouliot’s pace, and without the *elite level* offensive zone minor taking ability.

  77. Pouliot’s spot would be better served with Kristo skating it.

    5 points in 28 games, but has 31 Priority Penalty Points on his card. That should be enough for 2 free room by now don’t you think?

  78. _Billy Joel news conference on MSG right now. Special announcement._

    “I’m drunk.”

    [gets up]

    [falls off stage]

  79. _The Rangers had toughness… couldn’t score. Added scoring and lost toughness… still can’t score. Ouch._

    The thing is, they did score. 11th in the league in goals per game is just fine, especially when you’re a defense first team.

  80. That’s really the problem, the Rangers traded defense and toughness for concentrated scoring when the scoring wasn’t really an issue. If you could have added without subtracting or altering the scheme, awesome. That’s not what happened and we’re seeing it every few nights.

  81. I never understood why Mitchell was on the PP, though he did win that big faceoff against the Caps. Other than that, I’m not really sure why a lot of people hated a 4th line player.

  82. Gravy: Mitchell was never *on* the PP. Tort was just pulling a very Vigeanult move and having Mitchell take the face off and then immediately skate off for a quick change.

  83. RIP whoever in Kadri’s family!

    @DavidAlter590 Carlyle confirms death in the family for Kadri. Will not play tonight.

  84. I don’t remember anyone “Hated” Mitchell. When Hags & Mitchell where brought up it sparked the team.

    Mitchell – Boyle – Prust made a great 4th line.

  85. Agree with the point on realignement. It’s always been said that the league wants each team to play in each arena every season, and it appears that’s their #1 goal when making scheduling decisions. Has anyone ever been able to quantify the supposed benefit?

    Seems to me that for every game where 18k at MSG get to see a star player or great team from the west, there are 2 games against a team no one cares about. Not to mention 18k buy tickets regardless of the opponent. And this day in age, if you really care about Datsyuk play you can watch every Wings game all season if you wanted to.

    I guess the only teams that are helped are the poor markets, where they may actually sell an extra 5k tickets for a game against a “big” team versus an extra game against a conference opponent. It’s ashame the rest of the league has to suffer for that.

  86. That sounds like the Bill Joel I know, The Doctor.

    Mitchell is also a UFA at the end of this season and makes UNDER $1M. Pay him $1M and get him on the darn team instead of Dom Moore

  87. I kind of like it, Chris. The flipside risk is whats happening with MLB where rivalry games are non-events because they happen every other weekend.

  88. I think the -old- new schedule is more for the teams like TB, Florida, Phoenix, etc. than the NYR. In fact, everything Bettman has done is for the betterment of the smaller market teams, even though it hasn’t actually helped them.

  89. So *Billy* Joel can *Say* Goodbye to *Hollywood* as he is now *part* of the *MSG* franchise and will play a *show* a month for life.

  90. Manny, I remember complaining about him playing *on* the PP, although I think that you are right about that being the primary reason.

    Sioux, I think Mitchell may have scored a couple of goals in his first few games, along with Hags. But once the goals stopped, well, you know.

  91. I saw him with Elton John once. Elton John is cooler and has better guilty pleasure songs but Billy’s voice has held up better. In all, I recommend not going.

  92. If *Bettman* wants to help *Winnipeg* he will give them more *home* games since they sell *out* all of them because *people* in Canada actually *care*. I don’t know *how* much money they make traveling to *NYC* to play to a half full *MSG* where *25%* of the fans think they are watching *Curling*

  93. Billy Joel was my *first* concert. Almost my *last* concert actually. I *second* the recommendation to *not* go.

  94. *Bolding* your posts help you make your *posts* stand out from What’s *the* Frequency *Kenneth* as well. Bonus points for *bold*

  95. I think a lot of people forget that even though there was a magical year two seasons ago, it was magical for the first 2/3 – 3/4 of the season. The last part of the season, the Rangers were a .500 team. That carried over into the playoffs. They had a magical 2/3 of a season, then they had to claw their way to .500 as the rest of the league caught up.

  96. My first *real* concert (so not 300 people passing by a stage at the Dutchess County Fair or whatever) was the *Smokin’ Grooves* tour back in like 1995. If you’d told me then that *Spearhead* would be the most popular from that tour 2 decades later, I would have laughed and reminded you the only cheer he got was when he hyped the next act. The *bass* was really cool and the ground shook, like when Dustin Byfuglien falls after another *assist*.

  97. Rob in Beantown on

    How are you? We are Uptown Girl. We are California’s preeminent
    1980s Billy Joel cover band.

    Piano Man!

    What did I just say, man? All right, we don’t play that. So let’s keep it in the ’80s and let’s keep it fun.

  98. *Free medical advice* If you have a bad rash on your MZA, try not to scratch it. Because the more you scratch it, the more it will itch. That’s what you are doing with Kenneth.

  99. Dan: They finished 9-9, but that’s with Biron going 1-3 over that span, so there’s a little coasting asterisk there.

  100. ILB: I’m just getting over a rash that was bad enough I had to take *steroids*. I imagine this would *outrage* Carp.

  101. ilb, it’s like the *Avery* of the *worst* blog on the internets. You know you should *ignore* him, but sometimes, you *can’t*.

    Bolding is *easier* on a computer than an *iPhone*.

  102. The Rangers D, in one or two years, will look vastly different from its composition, today, what with: Staal locked-in at about 50 per cent recovery from his pre-injury career peak; MDZ an error-prone head case on the trading block; and Girardi’s career on the decline. Of course Moore and McD are the two positives, as of now. Stralman? You be the judge, he quietly makes a contribution, but is it enough? Falk???

    Given that three main cogs on this D are headed out the door sooner rather than later, I think it is time to get Big Mac up here, not just for the crease-clearing and head-bashing muscle he provides, but to start putting the “new wave” D corps, beyond McD, and Moore into place. This fringe playoff team, as now constituted, really needs a major overhaul, asap.

    The overhaul process can begin in-season, so why wait until next June? When will Sather address the increasing severity of this deteriorating situation beyond his patented “quick fix” reflex?

  103. duckbill platypus on

    May I be the duckbill of reason? I like the Rangers lineup. For the first time they have a legit first line. They have depth, and they have names in the leagues of minor that can come up. With this new NHL you just have to get good at latter part of season. I would say that DO NOT need major overhaul. Stay the course. We have guys playing below their normal level of play….maybe the Rangers are a mean reversion play. In any event, the carpster is amazing and so is Latona…that is all this duck can tell you with certainty.

    Your friend,
    Duckbill

  104. The reality is that Girardi is on the career downside slope; Staal probably is not going to improve, and MDZ is young and has some upside if he gets his act together – but his hockey instincts are atrociously poor. I would peddle all three of them, except no one will take a chance re Staal, so what to do with him as his game continues to spiral downward?

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