Rangers at Panthers tonight (7:30) … pre-game notes


Pre-game notes courtesy of the NYR:

Wednesday, Nov. 27, 7:30 p.m. ET
BB&T Center – Sunrise, FL
Rangers: 12-12-0 (24 pts)
Panthers: 7-13-5 (19 pts)

The Rangers will face-off against the Florida Panthers at BB&T Center (7:30 p.m. — TV: MSG Network; Radio: ESPN 98.7), in the first of three games in a four-day span. The Blueshirts currently rank third in the Metropolitan Division standings, and eighth in the Eastern Conference, with a record of 12-12-0 (24 pts). The Rangers enter the contest having been defeated by the Tampa Bay Lightning, 5-0, on Monday at Tampa, to end their road winning streak at six games. The Blueshirts are tied for third in the conference, and eighth in the NHL, in ROW (12). The Panthers enter the contest with a 7-13-5 (19 pts) record to rank 15th in the Eastern Conference, and have points in four of their last five games (3-1-1). Following the contest, the Rangers will return to action when they face-off against the Boston Bruins on Friday, Nov. 29, at TD Bank Garden (1:00 p.m.), to conclude their five-game road trip.

All-Time: 43-28-6-4 overall (23-14-4-0 at home; 20-13-2-4 on the road)
2013-14: Tonight is the second of three meetings this season, and the first of two meetings at BB&T Center. New York is 1-0-0 (1-0-0 at home; 0-0-0 on the road), following a 4-3 win on Nov. 10 at Madison Square Garden. The Rangers’ power play was 1-3 (33.3%) in the contest. Brad Richards, Derek Dorsett, J.T. Miller, and Mats Zuccarello each tallied a goal. Richards added an assist for a team-high, two points in the contest. Henrik Lundqvist made 24 saves in the win.
Last Season: New York was 1-2-0 overall (1-1-0 at home; 0-1-0 on the road). The Rangers out-scored the Panthers, 9-7, including a 6-3 advantage in the third period, and out-shot Florida, 113-75, in the series. The Blueshirts’ power play was 2-10 (20.0%) in three games. Rick Nash led all skaters with four points, and tied Ryan Callahan for the series lead with three assists apiece. Derick Brassard notched a series-high, three goals, in two contests. Henrik Lundqvist was 1-2-0 with a 1.69 GAA and .932 Sv%.
The Rangers have won 10 of their last 15 games against the Panthers, having out-scored Florida, 44-26, over the span
New York is 8-7-0 on the road; Florida is 4-4-3 at home
New York is 4-3-0 vs. Atlantic Division opponents; Florida is 2-2-1 vs. Metropolitan Division opponents
New York lists one former Panther on its roster: Dominic Moore (2009-10)
Florida lists three former Rangers on its roster: Matt Gilroy (2009-10 – 2010-11; 2012-13); Scott Gomez (2007-08 – 2008-09); Mike Mottau (2000-01 – 2001-02)

INDIVIDUAL CAREER LEADERS vs. PANTHERS: Henrik Lundqvist – 26 GP, 16-9-1, 5 SO, 1.78 GAA; Brad Richards – 54 GP, 18-31-49; Benoit Pouliot – 18 GP, 7-7-14; Ryan Callahan – 20 GP, 3-8-11; Michael Del Zotto – 15 GP, 1-6-7.

The Rangers are tied for first in the league with three goals in 5-on-3 situations
The Blueshirts’ penalty kill has held opponents scoreless in six of the last seven games (18-19, 94.7% over the span)
Power Play: The Rangers were 0-6 (10:58) on Monday at Tampa Bay. New York ranks 20th in the NHL overall (14-82, 17.1%), and seventh on the road (10-47, 21.3%). The Rangers are 3-10 (4:24) in five-on-three situations (last – 11/25 at TBL), and 0-1 (0:30) when four-on-three (last – 10/12 at STL). Shorthanded goals allowed (3): 10/8 at SJS (Vlasic); 10/24 at PHI (Read); 11/19 vs. BOS (Paille).
Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts were 3-3 (6:00) on Tuesday at Tampa Bay. New York ranks seventh in the NHL overall (69-81, 85.2%), and 10th on the road (45-53, 84.9%). The Rangers are 2-3 (2:49) in three-on-five situations (last – 11/4 vs. ANA), and 2-3 (0:55) when three-on-four (last – 11/21 at DAL). Shorthanded goals for (1): 10/7 at LAK (McDonagh).
Four-on-Four: New York did not skate in a four-on-four situation on Tuesday at Tampa Bay, and are now -1 in 24 four-on-four situations (36:09) this season. Four-on-four goals for (2): 10/16 at WSH (J. Moore); 10/26 at DET (Brassard). Four-on-four goals allowed (3): 10/3 at PHX (Vrbata); 10/7 at LAK (Muzzin); 10/12 at STL (Backes).

ROAD WARRIORS: The Rangers lead the Eastern Conference and are tied for first in the NHL with eight road wins this season. The Blueshirts posted a six-game winning streak on the road from Oct. 26 at Detroit to Nov. 23 at Nashville, out-scoring their opponents, 16-8, including two shutouts over the span. The streak ended one win shy of the longest road winning streak in franchise history, and was the longest for the Blueshirts since the 1993-94 season (Oct. 30 – Nov. 24). It is also tied as the longest road winning streak in the league this season. The Rangers posted victories in Detroit and Montreal during their six-game road winning streak, marking the first time the team has won in both cities in the same season since 1991-92.

STARTING FRESH: The Rangers have posted a 1.78 goals against average since returning from their season-opening five-game west coast road trip, compared to a 5.00 goals against average prior to their Oct. 16 game at Washington. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, the Rangers’ 1.78 goals against average since Oct. 16 leads the NHL over the span. The Blueshirts are currently tied for 12th overall with a 2.46 goals against average this season.

SHUTTING THE DOOR: The Rangers have held opponents to two or fewer goals in 14 of the last 17 games, and 15 of the last 19. New York has allowed 30 goals over the last 17 games (1.76 goals against per game), and 34 goals in the last 19 games (1.79 goals against per game). The Blueshirts are tied for first in the NHL with four shutouts and have held opponents to two or fewer goals in 16 games this season, which is tied for second in the league.

FAST START: The Rangers have posted a record of 11-1-0 when tallying the game’s first goal this season, which is tied for third in the NHL (.917 winning percentage). The Blueshirts have opened the game’s scoring in two of the last three contests.

STANDING TAL-BOT: Cam Talbot posted a 17-save shutout in a 2-0 win on Saturday at Nashville, to extend his personal winning streak to five games and register his second consecutive shutout, prior to his relief appearance on Monday at Tampa Bay. He has posted a 1.29 GAA, .948 Sv%, and two shutouts during his five-game winning streak, and is the first Rangers’ goaltender to win five straight in their first year since Dan Blackburn in 2001-02 (Mar. 30-Apr. 8, 2002). Signed by the Rangers as an undrafted free agent on Mar. 30, 2010, Talbot is now 5-1-0 with a 1.41 GAA, .944 Sv%, and two shutouts in seven career NHL appearances. He has allowed just nine goals in his seven games, and has yet to surrender more than two goals in a contest. He posted a shutout streak of 165:27 from 13:38 of the second period on Nov. 7 at Columbus to 18:59 of the third period on Nov. 25 at Tampa Bay (59 consecutive saves).
From the Elias Sports Bureau:
He is the third goaltender in franchise history to post two shutouts in his first six career starts, and the first to do so since the Rangers’ inaugural season, when both Lorne Chabot and Hal Winkler accomplished the feat during the 1926-27 season.
He is the first goaltender in franchise history, and the first in the NHL since Gerry McNeil (Montreal) in 1947, to hold opponents to two or fewer goals in each of his first six NHL starts.
He is only the second Rangers goaltender in the last 40 years to post consecutive shutouts on the road in one season. The other was Steve Valiquette during the 2007-08 season (Jan. 31 and Feb. 9, both in Philadelphia).

CLOSING TIME: The Blueshirts have registered a point in 100 consecutive regular season games when leading after the second period, dating back to the 2009-10 season, posting a record of 94-0-6 over the span. The Rangers’ last regulation loss in a game when entering the third with the lead was Feb. 4, 2010 (6-5 loss vs. WSH). New York is 8-0-0 when leading after the second period this season, and have held opponents to a league-best, 12 goals against in the final frame.

Taylor Pyatt (concussion – 11/7, out indefinitely) – 8
Total Man-Games Lost: 53

Nov. 26 – Assigned forward J.T. Miller to Hartford (AHL)

Photo by Getty Images.


About Author


  1. Bounce back win for the king. Gomez vs no Gomez tonight. If they are on the ice together that is.

  2. TB has always been problematic for these Rs….I expect them to play better against the Panthers…and I should know, I’m a bear.

  3. This falls as one of the must win type games. You never underestimate any pop but you got to get 2 pts tonite with bruins and Nucks on weekend.

  4. Watch Gomez score on No Gomez, or did they already pull up their leading goal scorer from the AHL?

  5. I’m going with my kid on Sat and proudly cheering a coach that played gritty, in ur face hockey. He gave us a rep… Hard to play against. All the best to you Torts!

  6. Great thinking, Hedberg! TOTALLY with you! Don’t understand anyone thinking contrary.

    I brought this up last night, and for some reason it wasn’t taken seriously. So I will bring it up again:

    Montreal has apparently made Connecticut Born, *Max Pacioretty* available to teams. Pacioretty, Age 25, is an actual power forward in the first year of a six year deal with an AAV of $4.5M. Meaning he’s signed for a while at a reasonable price.

    According to what I read from LeBrun, Montreal has already fielded an offer from an unknown team regarding Pacioretty.

    *Now* : I dislike Pacioretty as a person. He’s annoying. But he’s a legit power forward at 6’2″, 210lbs, agitator and has a real knack for scoring. He has previously scored 30+ goals, and was on pace to do so again in the shortened season. Meaning, he’s a legit 60pt player.


  7. Rob in Beantown on

    Will Hank complain about having him in the team? We should really check with Hank first to see if it’s okay

  8. Manny Pacquiaoretty would automatically become our top scorer. Will they take Del Z and Poulet?

  9. I’m wondering what they would want. Del Zotto and Girardi? Del Zotto and Brassard? What is the MAX anyone would be willing to give up?

  10. I like Max. Not sure what bag of goods Sather could throw together for him.

    Pouliot/el Zotto/McIlrath/Brassard/Boyle/Pyatt

    Hard to say, but he is a solid forward.

    My guess Montreal is looking to make room for Gaborik.

  11. I’m assuming the package would begin with Montreal asking for THE KREIDER and McDonagh and Sather burning Marc Bergevin in the eye with a cigar. They might end up settling on something like Del Zotto and Brassard.

  12. Rob in Beantown on

    I might do it too but I don’t think it makes us a better team. I’m just afraid of Nash hurting his noggin again. It probably is a bad idea though

  13. Seriously? I’d be saying yes before the word “Rick” was fully out of Bergevin’s mouth. Get younger, get cheaper, no reason to think you’re getting worse.

  14. I think we all agree.

    There isn’t much I wouldn’t give up for “Patches” at this point. Nick Rash would be an easy one for me. Younger, cheaper, less injury prone and WAY MORE PRONE TO SUING PEOPLE FOR BITING HIM!

  15. Good question Stranger – this a is a 30 goal a year power forward on a cap friendly contract.
    Why would you want to trade him? Are they making moves so they can offer PK Slewfoot a big contract?

  16. I read it in a LeBrun article. I will paste it here. I’m not just making this stuff up guys. I’m not iBob or ORR or CCCP.


    TSN’s *Bob McKenzie* dropped a real interesting nugget Tuesday evening, reporting that Montreal Canadiens winger Max Pacioretty’s name has been mentioned in trade talks.

    A Habs source forcibly told ESPN.com that Pacioretty is not being shopped, but that obviously the team can’t prevent other clubs from calling. And teams have.

    Pacioretty, a Team USA Olympic hopeful, recently fired his agent, which raised eyebrows given that he’s in the first year of a six-year deal paying him on average $4.5 million a year. That might have been the impetus for other teams calling Montreal.


  17. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    He scored 30 goals a year once, I don’t see the allure of that same player signed for the following 5 years at $4.5 per. Even with the concussion issues, Nash is superior.

  18. Was he looking at the Sedin’s and Kessel’s contracts and thinking he was worth more? I suppose technically he won’t need an agent for the next 4+ years unless he wants out?

  19. Last 2 seasons 65pts in 79games and 39pts in 44g. He’s 25 and that contract will see him to 30, which wouldn’t be a bad time to part ways.
    I’m surprised he’s available, I hope Slats is in on him. I’d imagine its going to cost 2 roster players and a prospect or pick.

  20. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Now, if we previously could have pried Ovechkin away from the Capitals, that would have been ideal. With the cap going up in the near future, a core of Ovechkin, Hank, McDonagh, Stepan, Kreider and Callahan to build around.

  21. Rob in Beantown on

    Sorry for the blogspam. I think I’m going to make a twitter account just for g(j)ibberish (that isn’t my *respectable* one) instead of treating the blog like one

  22. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Taking into account what you suggested the Canadians might be seeking in exchange for him, not worth it.

  23. matty"PlayTough"boy on

    And I, Kenneth, am dreaming I win the multi-state lotto and $46M. Reality is no Ovechkin (where’d that come from?)

  24. If we are trading with Montreal, How bout a blockbuster like this:

    Hagelin, DelZotto Pollute and Nash for Pacioretti, Eller and Jared Tinordi.

  25. matty"PlayTough"boy on

    Max was the recipient of that huge Chara hit over a year ago? I would be very skeptical on him. He could be very damaged at this point, not just concussions. Anyone wondering look at the hit on youtube.

    I was amazed he lived after that.

    He is very talented, indeed, but not as good as Nash.

  26. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Due to Ovechkin’s previous issues with coaching and management, I had hoped Sather was going to swoop in a couple years ago like he did with Jagr and the Capitals.

  27. Stranger Nation on

    Matty – correct, if he wasn’t concussed from the Chara hit, his head is made of steel.

    Richards and Stawl for Pac and _____

  28. I am still looking at different sources regarding that new NHL TV deal. Not everything is clear yet, number wise. But it does look like a game changer for NHL’s financial well-being. From what I’ve seen, it looks like the Cap may hit $80M *much* earlier than predicted, perhaps even as early as in three years.

  29. Agreed, ilb. I think the cap always has to be considered, but it getting cap space doesn’t make every deal the right one.

  30. _it looks like the Cap may hit $80M much earlier than predicted, perhaps even as early as in three years._

    Time for a lockout.

  31. Since his name popped up, above, I am thinking Washington should entertain seerious offers for Ovie, given his prohibitive cost, and the fact that you just about have to divide his offensive numbers by three, given that he thinks he is skating alone, not with two linemates. I say this because – and this is amazing – to this point in the season, almost December, he has recorded just ONE primary assist, that on a power play goal in a game that was already decided.

    This also means that to date he still has ZERO primary assists at even-strength. So that, if I were Washington brass, I would set-up my franchise with youth, depth, and quality players and prospects for many years, by peddling this gruesomely selfish puck-hog.

  32. I do have some good news though. My fear was that the Cap will go up significantly starting next year, which might make Sather consider *NOT* buying Richards out. Luckily, it won’t. Even though the NHL will get paid starting next ( sounds like $300M + $75M of first out of two initial payments), that won’t affect the Cap until 2015-2016 season since the mid-cap is calculated based upon previous season’s HRR.

  33. Rob in Beantown on

    Ovechkin’s cap hit in $9.5M through the next lockout. That really limits the number of teams that could take him. Maybe a team that needs to reach the cap floor, but even then, why not just sign multiple players rather than tying all the cap up in one?

  34. Robby, based on your evaluation no team would even answer the phone call from Washington, let alone calling them. I think had they entertained trading him, Washington would have multiple offers from all over the league. Including from NY. Right or wrong.

  35. Stranger Nation on

    Ovi – someone with that skill can hog the puck all he wants. Lots more feeders than scorers out there

  36. Stranger Nation on

    Richards off PP pt & line changes from 3rd per last game stay with Cally joining Brass and Hags on LW with Richie Richand Nasher on R w

  37. Actually, Robby has a point there. Nonetheless, we can talk about OV’s ridiculous contract all we want, but during his least productive full season he scored 32 goals. Players who score that much once in their careers demand $5M+ 6 year contract.

  38. Patch unhappy with his money and years seeing all the salary inflation this year, so fired his agent? IF you could get him, you ADD him to Nash, not trade Nash for him.

  39. Nowadays, everybody wants to talk like they got something to say. But, nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of j(g)ibberish.

  40. I don’t like Nash’s contract. I trade Nash for Pacioretty and I instantly like the way my roster looks a lot more. A 25+ goal scorer at $4.5MM is a huge plus on a roster.

  41. (Then, post amnesty of Richards, I sign Stastny and WOW do I like my young forwards all of a sudden. And I’ve got like $3MM more in hand than I did with Nash + Richards. I am the best (pretend) GM in the history of the world!)

  42. Doodie Machetto on

    Oh, let’s get Desharnais from Montreal while we are trying to get young nonscoring players!

  43. $3M will get you a “positionally reliable forward”, if you lucky. Stastny ( I like him a lot, for the record) is finishing his 5 year, $6.6M contract. Doubt he will be looking for a pay cut. And he generally scores in low-mid 20 goals range.

  44. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Robby Bonfire’s point is beyond laughable. If his point had been to question the validity of the secondary assist, I would have agreed. Instead, the point was to devalue Ovechkin’s goal scoring based on his lack of primary assists.

  45. Stastny, by the way, isn’t staying in Colorado. With Duchene and Mackinnon signed, he is becoming their 3rd line center. They simply can’t afford to pay him that much to play 3rd line center role. In fact, I suspect they will try to move him by deadline in order to get some value, depending on what their PO position looks like in March. I think the Rangers should try to sign him after they buy out Richards.

  46. Also, I don’t think moving Nash for Pacioretty is an option. Think it was just a hypothetical. That package is more like Brassard, Del Zotto and a pick.

  47. _Then we will have cornered the market on young players that don’t score._

    Huh? Pacioretty had 33, a prorated 28 last year and is on almost a half goal per game pace this year. Identical 3 year output to Nash, 4 years younger, > $3MM cheaper. I get wanting to pair them, but if for some reason it became and either/or scenario, Pacioretty is the easy call.

  48. Stastny would be a pretty good choice. But he would become our second line center making Brassard expendable as an overpaid 3rd line Center.


  49. _Also, I don’t think moving Nash for Pacioretty is an option._

    Me neither, for Montreal reasons and NTC reasons, I just want it to be.

    If Montreal wanted Hags and not Brassard, do you do it?

  50. Pacioretty is a legitimate Power Forward that scores 30G and puts up 60+ points. That’s what he is. He was on pace for that last year as well. He’s on pace for it again.

  51. Del Zotto and Hagelin for Pacioretty? I think you HAVE to make that trade. You get rid of Del Zaster who is essentially a throwaway and you get Pacioretty who is a much more productive forward than Hagelin.

  52. Stranger Nation on

    Miller & Staal for Pac
    Nash for Statsny
    Amnesty Richards

    Kreider – Statsny – Pac
    Hags – Step – Cally

  53. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I read somewhere Gleason is available as well from the canes…I think he makes like 4 mil per, but I’d trade mdz for him in a heartbeat

  54. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Yes, and he is also out for a week or so with an injury…this is what I read

    It’s long, so sorry in advance (from spectors rumours…

    TSN.CA: Bob McKenzie reports Montreal Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin isn’t shopping Max Pacioretty but he is getting offers for the winger. It’s the same situation with the Jets and Evander Kane as teams are monitoring Kane’s relationship with Jets coach Claude Noel…Pierre LeBrun reports there is some interest in Washington Capitals winger Martin Erat, mainly because his salary drops to $2.25 million next season. LeBrun claims he’s easier to move than San Jose’s Martin Havlat…Darren Dreger claims the Carolina Hurricanes are among the teams with interest in Flames center Mikael Backlund. The Hurricanes made an offer but the Flames want an age-comparable player as part of the return…LeBrun noted the Hurricanes have Tuomo Ruutu, Jiri Tlusty and Tim Gleason on the trade block, with Gleason sounding the most likely to be moved. He believes if the Hurricanes can move Gleason they could free up cap space to pursue Toronto’s John-Michael Liles. He claims for the Hurricanes to take Liles the Leafs would have to take Ruutu, but the Leafs have no interest in that deal…Dreger reported the Ottawa Senators threw out names like Eric Condra, Colin Greening and Eric Gryba to the NY Rangers for Michael Del Zotto but “the deal is currently not a fit” for the Rangers…Dreger also provided an update on Dion Phaneuf’s contract talks, claiming the Phaneuf camp pitched a seven-eight year deal in the $7 million range. The Maple Leafs are expected to make their counter-offer within a week…Talks between the Nashville Predators and Anaheim Ducks are on hold because of an injury to Viktor Fasth. LeBrun doubts Jonas Hiller will be moved soon… McKenzie reports the Detroit Red Wings are on the verge of re-signing defenseman Jonathan Ericsson to a multi-year extension.

    SPECTOR’S NOTE: Just because the Canadiens and Jets are listening to offers for Pacioretty and Kane doesn’t mean they’re going to trade them. A good GM always listens to offers, because you never know when a desperate rival could make one too good to pass up. Still, the Habs are rumored in the market for a major deal, and it could take a player like Pacioretty to get it done. In the case of Kane and Noel, if it comes down to a choice for the Jets, I think Noel loses. Kane is simply too talented to part with…Erat’s actual salary goes down next season but his cap hit remains $4.5 million. Another concern is his lack of production since the start of last season with both the Caps and his former team, the Predators…The Hurricanes might be unwilling to move an age-comparable player. Still, management could be getting a bit desperate. The Leafs won’t to move Liles, but they won’t take back equal or greater salary to do so. Gleason’s also sidelined a week with a lower-body injury, which could affect his trade value…Reports out of New York claim the Rangers would want a decent defenseman in return for Del Zotto. What’s being offered by the Senators won’t cut it…Seven-years and around $50 million is what it’ll take to re-sign Phaneuf…With Fasth sidelined, the Ducks aren’t moving Hiller.

  55. If you told me I could move Nash and have that lead into Pacioretty *AND* Kane, then you’d pique my interest.

  56. Kreider – Step – MZA
    Kane – Richards – Callahan
    Pacioretty – Brassard – Dorsett
    Boyle – Moore – Pyatt

  57. Kane in a Ranger Jersey would look pretty sweet!!!

    Del Zotto and ________ ?

    To get that deal done.

  58. This is my daily attempt to *SPAM* (Spamny) you guys. I have now raised $810 for Men’s Health through MOVEMBER. I’m only $190 short of my goal. If you can help out please do.

    You can donate as little as $1 here: us.movember.com/mospace/8560189

    It only takes a few minutes and it will make a HUGE difference.

    You can also click on my name and make fun of my poster I made!

    Of course *THANK YOU* to those who have donated.

    I will leave you alone now.

  59. Gravy that would be a XMAS gift for the Rangers, Heck through in a prospect or a pick to even it out :)

  60. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Start the breadlines to the left and procreation limit lines to the right!

    No politics

  61. I’m concerned about Stastny’s decline in production since signing his last contract, so option 2 for me, Manny.

    I’d sign him to replace Richards, but it depends on the cost. I wouldn’t want to pay him the same amount as Richards, which he’s making now.

  62. SN, you’re getting too hung up on this first line business. They’d have *three* scoring lines.

  63. That’s a a good point. The decline. That’s definitely a frightening factor. Pacioretty is young and sturdy and powerful and tough.

  64. Actually I’m more a fan of Tomas Plekanec than Pacioretty.

    We aren’t moving Nash at any cost.

    But if Kane wants out of Winnipeg, I would be more interested in that move.

    I wonder what Winnipeg would want. Give them their hometown boy McIlrath or Del Zotto, maybe Miller or Kristo.

    I would be ok with any 2 above. Kristo could replace his scoring, and they could use the Defense.

  65. Sioux, I don’t think any combination of those two gets it done. Might be more like Kreider and Motz.

  66. hey carp, heads, i gotta question. i was scrolling thru the wicky past few days and havent seen puck daddy on it. did u remove it carp?

  67. There was talk before the season about Kane wanting a trade. So there might be a deal there if Winnipeg got assets they could put on the ice right away.

    Del Zotto would actually help them on D. Scoring they would need something maybe Hags might work. Kane could easily replace Hags numbers, or Zucc but I really don’t think he has a lot of trade value. Through in McIlrath as a top D prospect for them. He’s from the area.

    You never know.

  68. iWicky

    You are no longer welcome here.

    And if you’re going to consider him in a trade, at least show some respect and call him by his proper name, “THE Kreider”

  69. Keep Lindberg, we will need him to replace Richards next year.

    3 for 1 is a lot of talent.

  70. All the Rangers need right now is an enforcer to be recalled from the minors! With an enforcer, Boyle would then feel safe enough again to hit everything in sight and drive to the net – like he did when he scored 20 goals a few seasons ago. Also Dorsett would then lead the league in hits/checks instead of lost fights! I see absolutly no point to playing Boyle and Dorsett without an enforcer on their line!

  71. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    What team would want Ovechkin? He doesn’t track back on defense or get any primary assists. Hell, the Capitals should buy him out if they have any amnesty buyouts remaining.

  72. Stranger Nation on

    Jonathan – agree on sentiment; Boyle needs a tough guy riding shotgun and D Moore has feet for hands, cannot lift puck or score if his child’s life depended on it.
    Haley/Boyle/Dorset would reek havoc and free Boyle up for more FOs.

  73. I did Rob. I think we got the short end of the stick with the Refs.

    I don’t know why, but it’s the same when we play BC as well.

    I agree with Eric, who wrote the article, they should have a standard set for all Ref. Everything should be called the same, and its not. We’ve been hurt in the Frozen Four tournaments with calls not going our way.

    Your team won, so it had to be a fun game to go to, or did all the calls take some of the fun away.

  74. Rob in Beantown on

    It was a fun game, but I agree they should use neutral refs for non-conference games, in part to prevent these kind of controversies from happening, which seem to happen anytime there are high profile non-conference matchups. Especially because non-conference games wind up being really important for pairwise and tournament consideration.

  75. @Real_ESPNLeBrun New Olympic roster deadline date will be Jan. 7. They were looking at either 6th or 7th, but in the end decided on Jan. 7.

    Tough choices make for delays.

  76. Cooscoos, the other teams enforcer(s) would be too preoccupied with our 4th line to go after anyone else.

  77. Jonathan – no problem from me in bringing up Haley now and The Undertaker as soon as he’s deemed ready.

  78. Stranger Nation, I like Haley as well. He’s certainly a good enough skater to do his enforcers role well in the NHL.

  79. Stranger Nation on

    While Haley is no Ideal heavyweight (size wise), he has the mental make-up and, more importantly, can be a contributor on the checking line and not just some goon who plays 4 mins a game.

  80. Stranger Nation on

    The Undertaker and another of his ilk would be ideal on the back line. Not a Terry Carkner, but a big crease clearer who would let opponents know the crease is the _no pass through_ zone.

  81. Not sure if McIlrath will ever be ready for the NHL? But regardless, I could see Del Zotto (probably in a package) being traded before the deadline for a “crease clearing” right handed D-man.

  82. Both Haley and Dorsett fear no one, but both are too small to successfully and continuously take on opposing super heavyweights. Their true value is in their aggressive, assertive, tireless play (and the fearlessness factor). Like them both, but we sure could use a playable monster.

  83. MDZ, MZA, Fogarty and a 2nd rounder for Max P and Tinordi? Maybe Boyle, although I would hate give up Boyle. He’s undervalued. Great bottom six guy.

  84. Can’t give up on Fogarty. He’s a Rambunctious Boy and we might need him to play Centerfield. :)

  85. Stranger Nation on

    Souix – Gomer is supposedly ready to go – who sites? D Moore? Pullout get Pulled Out?

  86. I was curious to see if Gomez is playing.

    Pyatt > PullOUT. Really not sure who is better, or who can help the Rangers win a game.

  87. Friend of mine who went to UPenn told me he saw the whole (real) Addams family on campus years ago for dedication of a building named for Charles Addams, and he said they all looked like The Addams Family characters.

  88. I see that Max Paciorety has somehow turned into Wayne Gretzky. LETS TRADE EVERYBODY FOR HIM!

  89. I didn’t say no teams want Ovie. I suggested that, at his peak trade value, right now, Washington could set itself up for several years of being in contention for the Cup. Now let me ask you something – how close, with Ovie leading the parade, has Washington come to winning a Cup?

    Right, now you get the picture. Is it about high-profile P.R. guys winning Art Ross trophies and maybe a Hart Trophy or two to go with it, or is it about winning the Stanley Cup? Washington has just about ZERO Stanley Cup vision and any team taking Ovie off their hands will fall into the same abyss. You should trade a guy at the peak of his market value – which is right now for Ovie – but maybe you disagree and think five years from now will be the time to unload him.

  90. Actually, if someone is going to paraphrase me incorrectly, whether by design or not, let me reiterate that I did not denigrate Ovie’s goal-scoring ability. And who would? The point I should have more clearly made is that, as a one-dimensional player, Ovie is vastly over-rated and over-paid, and would procure a lot of value in terms of future and current pieces for adding to the puzzle.

    And since when is a player’s being in default when it comes to his back-checking and defensive responsibilities, and when it comes to setting up his teammates on the doorstep, once in a Blue Moon, exempt from justifiable criticism?

    I’m sorry, but I just can’t wax poetic about selfish professional athletes. This man is vulgar and swinish over the top and I am grateful he will never be a New York Ranger until Slats caves in and sends THE KRIEDER, Miller, Hags, MDZ package over to D.C. to get him. THEN sit back and watch the Rangers impressively win The Memorial Cup, because The Stanley Cup will not be an option.

  91. Hello Heads!!

    Big two points tonight, need them bad. I expect a big NY crowd down there tonight.

    LGR !!!

  92. eddie eddie eddie on

    my brutha – do a good show at the game tonight

    wicky – kid is getting better, thx…..hope your clan is all good in the hood too

    Kane for pyatt and MDZ

  93. no one’s mentioned that
    MDZ is being benched
    in favor of

    well, according to Brooks and others

  94. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    _the fact that you just about have to divide his offensive numbers by three_

    You devalued Ovechkin’s goal scoring ability because of his lack of primary assists.

    I interpreted your comment correctly.

  95. Yes, MDZ prucha’d. Dorsett game time wrist problemo. Pysie stand ready to add offensive spark and lower the hammer on any cheap-shot artists.

  96. well ..

    Warmup lines for @WolfPackAHL vs. Port.: Asham-Lindberg-Hrivik, Mashinter-Miller-Kristo, Powe-Jean-Bourque, Yogan-Dupont-Kantor.

  97. and w/ Dorsett being a game time
    i imagine Miller is
    already dipping into the Thanksgiving
    24 pack of holiday brew already

    did AV really say Miller isn’t an NHL player
    or NHL ready?

  98. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Robby Bonfire, as Mister D noted, hockey is a team sport. Perhaps if the Capitals had a goalie like Lundqvist, or the Rangers had a goal scorer like Ovechkin, both teams might have advanced further in the playoffs than each have.

  99. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Carp’s link to CBJs unhappiness with perennial 40 scorer gabby (sic) “the only place to see his legendary speed is on youtube” hahaha. That is funny.

    I think Doodie and Carp wagered me on “40 goals for gabby” this year….

    Will he even get 10? Discuss….

  100. Yogan misses a WIDE open net from 3′ out.

    Pack powerplay coming up.

    Portland Pirates on their heels so far this game.

Leave A Reply