Rangers-Stars in review

803

Thoughts:

1) The goalkeeper. Where’s his get-away car? Because he committed a crime against the Stars, grand theft. Wow. This could have been over early, and would have been a dreadful way to lose, out of the gate like that, especially after losing three of four close ones. And, after his team gave him one goal, total, with which to work in his last two starts, Henrik Lundqvist even took the offense into his own hands with the outlet that sprung Rick Nash for the 1-0 lead on the power play.

2) And by the way … Rangers 10-1 scoring first, 1-10 not scoring first.John Moore

3) That first period. Lindy Ruff’s team closes the neutral zone, and with that kind of speed, counters dangerously. The Rangers still tried to make passes through it (Brad Richards a back-hander diagonally, a cardinal sin;  Benoit Pouliot, Ryan Callahan also among the guilty). Ya can’t be so freakin’ stubborn. It’s like a football defense that stacks the box and dares you to pass, and you keep trying to run off tackle. It’s counterproductive. Got to put some pucks in deep and then use your speed to retrieve them.

4) Combine that with uncharacteristic (lately) scrambly coverage around the net and that first period is what you get. Plus Dallas was in shoot-from-everywhere mode. And another way to get yourself in deeper is to take a bunch of offensive-zone penalties, like the one Derek Stepan took. That first period was a nightmare (23-6 shots). Looked like Anaheim or San Jose or the preseason.

5) Example of how dump-it-in works against a team that’s so good in the neutral zone is that Dominic Moore’s line, with Brian Boyle and Derek Dorsett, had some of the Rangers best shifts in the first half of the game. Then the other lines started doing the same. The game was, at worst, even the rest of the way.

6) Fiddler almost roofed one.

7) Of course, Lundqvist gets the double-deflection goal off both of his shutdown defensemen. This time, though, the Rangers got the puck-luck back, on Chris Kreider’s deflected goal. Some terrific play by the defensive blue line by Ryan McDonagh to start the rush. Not sure what Kreider was thinking in the post-game when he told John Giannone the Rangers were happy with what they were doing in the first period.

8) Rick Nash. Yeah, he’s not a 40-goal scorer, and yeah he had a tough playoff last spring. But, man, this guy is everything the Rangers lack. Just an offensive genius with great hands to go with his wheels and his goal-scoring IQ. That was exactly the kind of goal not many others on the team ever score. And that breakaway/tuck move would have been pretty cool if he’d scored, no?

Mats Zuccarello Ryan McDonagh Chris Kreider Jamie Benn9) Michael Del Zotto. Yeah, that’s a bad pinch up two goals in the third period, and up to that point the best thing you could have said about him is that you didn’t notice him much in his first game back after three straight pruchas. But watch the John Moore goal again. Del Zotto made the exact same pinch, up one goal in the third, and nobody said a thing. Also, the first time, Derick Brassard was in a better position to back him up.

10) Brassard’s disallowed goal. Nice back-hander. Only you’re not supposed to use the back of your hand.

11) What do you suppose it’s going to take for Alain Vigneault to convince Mats Zuccarello to shoot the puck instead of forcing a pass?

12) John Moore scored that great goal under the crossbar. I was more impressed with that piece of skating by Moore when he hit the crossbar then got back on the defensive side to thwart a Dallas rush earlier.

13) Guess those Yankee Stadium tickets didn’t exactly sell out in minutes. Maybe had something to do with the prices and the additional extortion fees attached to each ticket.

14) Martin Biron is a great addition to the MSG studio. So much better than anybody they have. Plus he can talk, with some intelligence, about the current team and the current coach and Lundqvist and all.

15) “We came togeth-ah, neigh-bah helping neigh-bah.”

******************************************
My Three Rangers Stars:New York Rangers v Dallas Stars
1. Henrik Lundqvist.
2. Rick Nash.
3. John Moore.
******************************************
Kenny Albert’s Three Rangers Stars:
1. Henrik Lundvist.
2. Rick Nash.
3. Chris Kreider.
******************************************
jpg’s sister’s Three Rangers Stars:
1. Henrik Lundqvist.
2. Rick Nash.
3. Chris Kreider.
******************************************
Your poll vote for Three Rangers Stars:
1. Chris Kreider.
2. Henrik Lundqvist.
3. Rick Nash.
******************************************

Photos: Lundqvist, J. Moore and Kreider by the Associated Press; Nash by Getty Images.

Twitter: @rangersreport.

 

About Author

803 Comments

  1. who is gonna have the most points the next five games. Kreider or Nash?

    I put …nevermind… nobody is gonna outscore Nash.

  2. King outplays lehtinen. What a first period. And they scored a couple of goals to boot. THE KREIDER!

  3. Not quite the formula I was following but same result. Hank would have been arrested by the Dallas P.D for robbery but they are still searching for the gunman on the grassy knoll.

  4. Could only watch 2 minutes of this one, perhaps that the reason Lundquist won it?;>)) Sounds like I missed an interesting game and a stirring Lundquist victory. I did have a feeling [the] Kreider would finally score one. On to the Grand Ole Osprey…

  5. 8) …And that breakaway/tuck move would have been pretty cool if he’d scored, no?

    If the Rangers had scored on every shot they took last night, they would have set an NHL record for goals in a game.

  6. Happy, Happy, Happy Friday Boys.

    Always a great day after a win. Even if it is -1 with a 20 mph wind outside.

    Good news…… the pond has froze over :)

  7. Might have been your best recap ever. Some phrases were turned, some laughs were had, and Sonny to cap it off? Madone.

  8. Nick Rash is super awesome. I, for one, have no complaints. Scoring on oenalty shots, against terrific goaltenders, is really, really, really hard. So I don’t know why people had a problem there.

  9. Nice to see us steal one, since we’ve been robbed so many games this year we’ve played well, like in Boston the other night. Hank looked like Hank. The defense was a LOT scrambly last night. Jet lag? Nash showing no ill effects, guess he WAS ready to play, and THE KREIDER SCORES!!!

  10. Re: # 15 – that is the most annoying commercial after having heard it about a dozen times now.

    I’m originally from Queens and used to speak with a heavy Queens accent until it was pointed out to me early in my career. I’ve made it a point to roll my Rs now. Anyhow, 1st time I heard that “neighbor helping neighbor” commercial, my head instantly focused on the TV, thought to myself, that’s what I used to sound like? Terrible.

    Anyhow, great write up as usual Carp, Rangers definitely stole one. Nice seeing Nasher, The Kreider and Moore get on the scoresheet.

    Jamie Benn is ridiculous…imagine him on the Rangers?

  11. Stranger Nation on

    #2 – that is an amazing stat, wonder if that holds true for rest of league

    #7 – Not sure -what- Kreider was thinking in the post-game

    #10 – Brassard had the primary assist on the GWG as well to Moore is worth mentioning

    Net-Net; the Rangers most talented players made great plays to ‘steal’ one; Henk, Nasher, Step, Cally, Brassard and Moore

  12. The percentage of goals during a BCATHGE is between 30 and 35% so i’d expect 1 in 3 penalty shots to result in a goal. So you read it here first folks – next time we get a penalty shot we score!!

  13. Excellent win! Nice write-up as usual Carp. The only thing missing is the Rangers looked like synchronized swimmers at the end of the game trying to get in front of shots.

  14. The multiple snow angels while Jamie Benn danced through them all was embarrassing – at least Hank stood up and snagged the puck!

  15. Del Zotto has zero hockey sense. No sense of the right play to make at the right time. None. Yes, Carp, your point on the 3rd NYR goal is a fair one. And he does have some God-given skills.

    But to make that read at 3-1? In a game on the road that your team has to have? When there is already a teammate on the wall PRECISELY where you idiotically choose to pinch? When you know the coach has a leash on you that is about as long as your index finger?

    Inexcusable. He’s not a winning hockey player at this level. Get what you can for him before the getting is whittled down to nada.

  16. Stranger Nation on

    Jamie Benn 1 on 4 in 3rd period featured 2 snow angels and a player flagged for indifference.

    Re El Zotto – the second goal was the result of him not being able to handle the redirect along the boards. The puck was bounding a bit, but playing off side, that is a tough play to make on the back hand side.

  17. CARP, for some reason, forgot to refer to The Kreider by his proper nomenclature.

    I’ll forgive … this time.

  18. _I assume “lucky” is Portuguese for “world-class” _

    LOL

    But Carp, he scored a goal. That’s all that counts. If Pouliot scores everyone will fawn all over him and his speed.

  19. Great write up and review. Nice to get the win.

    Where has Hagelin gone? Seems to be not quite as noticeable playing with brass and Pouliot at least to me.

  20. Neigh-ba helping neigh-ba…I kept repeating that to my gf’s annoyance the first time I saw that.

    Btw Carp, Honda has done it again with another classic commercial this year, with Michael Bolton. Seen it yet?

  21. “Where has Hagelin gone? Seems to be not quite as noticeable playing with brass and Pouliot at least to me.”

    He’s playing with POULET.

    Does anything else need to be said?

  22. Jeff in South Dakota on

    I have Center Ice so of course I only had the Dallas feed but even those homers said the Boyle line was the most effective in the first half of the game. And their color guy, was incredulous at times describing Hank’s play — very funny at times.

  23. Jeff in South Dakota on

    The Ranger’s should have given Hank 20 pounds of bacon last night instead of that stinky hat; because that’s what he is owed by the team – he sure saved theirs last night

  24. Were the Stars fans out looking for the mysterious shooter on the grassy knoll too?

    A few empty seats won’t stop Bettman’s southward and westward expansion plans for sure! Seattle and Vegas here we come!

  25. I understand the idea of putting Hagelin with Pouliot and Brassard to see if he can get them going, but Hagelin deserves to be on the first two lines. He’s more effective there!

  26. Carp,
    Your stars are right on.
    #7 The Kreider also says on hockey night live…the amount of $ Hank is making we expect him to play that way. OMG n LOL and he was serious. his head is as thick as his thighs ugh!
    He did deserve a goal there, some nights they bounce one way or another…he’s been flying

  27. Good morning, boneheads!

    Nice review, Carp! Lol @ 15

    We keep talking about that first period, but what about what happened after that? AV adjusted it, and once they started to spend almost no time in neutral zone and used their speed and forecheck, Dallas’ defense became more susceptible to giveaways and open shots. Lehtonen was very good too.
    On #9, yes, he made similar play on GWG, but this time Brassard was already trying to forecheck, MDZ should’ve seen it. I would still continue to play him, I hope AV doesn’t sit him because of that though. You have an offensive defenseman, don’t expect him to turn into your shutdown guy.
    I think we should mention that Brassard had a very good game overall. Pouliot too, his giveaway notwithstanding. He used his speed and size well on forecheck, I thought.

  28. Stars color guy Darryl Reaugh called Hank’s 1st period a goaltending recital.

    Poule is French Canadian for chicken.

  29. _Where has Hagelin gone? Seems to be not quite as noticeable playing with brass and Pouliot at least to me._

    The answer lies in the question.

  30. Not a knock on Nash, but Jamie Benn is what we want Nash to be. Same offensive insanity but with a more complete game behind it. He’s really, really great.

  31. I think I mentioned it last night, I believe Hagelin’s sped is less effective because who he is playing with. Not sure way, it isn’t because those two guys are slow, they are not.

  32. @KatieStrangESPN: #NYR Rangers owner Jim Dolan to NYPost’s @MikeVacc on GM Glen Sather: “As long as he’d like to stay, I’d like to have him.”

    That’s a horrifying thing to wake up to. Wow!

    I know he’s a Devil and all, but Jagr is really something else. Probably wont play this good all season long, but the fact that he’s still doing it, and contributing, it’s pretty amazing.

    Tied Pepé Le Pew in goals, and Gordie How in GWG after last nights OT winner.

    Really hoping the Devils trade him at the deadline to a serious contender in the West

  33. Funny how the game works. I thought the Rangers played their worst game in weeks, yet they score 3 goals and win.

    Then against Boston, I think they play their best game of the season and they lose.

  34. I think Zucc took a shot last night. He took one as he came in on the LW with two defenders playing the middle.

  35. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    UK
    From last thread, I think when they were up in the scoreboard it was not what they wanted (especially with brassard already there). But yes, they do want the D up aggressively.

  36. Yeah, I’m fine with a D getting caught pinching every once in a while, just maybe not up 2 in a game where you’re getting pretty dominated.

  37. ORR – I read that yesterday and that was the one outstanding line from the interview. Slats haters are not going to like that one!

    Mind you its clear that he has cast a spell over Dolan which was clearly reinforced by the “No Gomez” trade which turned into “future Norris winner” McDonagh

  38. The Rangers will continue to remain average in performance………….as long as the have “super goalie”.

    At which point they will fall below average.

    Since average doesn’t “fill the cup” they should make every effort to extract the best deal possible for him while spreading the money he will cost to resign around to other players/acquisitions etc.

    Otherwise they will remain average but have a highly paid all world goalie!

  39. Hank – outstanding.
    Good to see Nash rounding back into form.
    John Moore and The Kreider – outstanding.

    Carp, regarding #15, I would wager that that guy talking is not even a New York resident. I have lived here my whole life. That is a fake NY accent.

    Is “The Fully Transformed Madison Square Garden” now the official name of the Rangers home? Are we allowed to refer to it as TFTMSG?

    Let’s Go Rangers!!!

  40. Junior’s interview with Vaccaro.

    If it were scripted by the MSG sales/promotion suits, it could not have contained more self serving pap,rationale for every perceived ill of both franchises.

    Bu layer over all Junior’s self and MSG promotion is the inescapable fact based on his comments that, I’m O.K. , the franchise are O.K. and everyone who works here past and present selected by ME is and has done a great job!

    “Thomas in essence got a bad deal from the media and fans but no mention of his extra curricular activities or the FACT that his teams as have Sather’s have not won!

    I suppose what’s even worse is how deferential Vaccaro was ,rarely tossing Junior anything but softball questions or more importantly challenging some of his opinions which have no relevance to KNOWN FACTS!

  41. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Looks like against smaller, more offencive, east west teams we win again, still losing to heavy north south teams…my theory is still holding water

  42. Repo

    DZ is perhaps justifiably confused. Coach stated he wanted him to be strong defending the net, make excellent plays to get the puck rapidly out of his own end, join the rush, and contribute offensively. Jeesh!

    Not offering excuses. I like AV’s approach generally. Michael can be sometimes as sharp as a marble, but I liked that AV used him even after that pinch debacle, while I also worried every time I saw #4 on ice (for him and for us.)

  43. And our center ice play on D might give us some insight into why both Torts and AV used and use Pysie.

  44. Stranger Nation on

    From Today’s Post interview with Dumbassen Dolan

    MV: Let’s talk about the Rangers a little bit. Is there a line of succession in place when Sather retires? Will he choose his replacement?

    JD: Ultimately it’s got to be my call but I have a tremendous amount of respect for Glen and still feel very lucky to have him. *He has a wealth of knowledge and experience and I don’t know if there’s anyone else in the NHL that’s better than him, but he’s got to be close to the top. His understanding of the game, his understanding of what makes a great player, and also he’s pulled off some trades I looked at him and said, “How did you do that?” As long as he’d like to stay I’d like to have him*

    Oy

  45. _Ugh, when Kreider scored all I could think of was Cookie Monster!_

    So True Yergs.

    But I’m with Carp. I’m holding back “THE Kreider”, for the kid with JAM & Snarl, you know the kid that blew by Sidney in that game not to long ago. That’s THE Kreider I LOVE to watch play the game of hockey!

  46. Stranger Nation on

    THE Kreider sent a Star Dman somersaulting around the redline on a hit last night. He is defintely getting some jam to his game. He may have to answer the bell if this keeps up.

  47. Pimpster – I was smiling ear to ear last night thinking of you, when your Boy lit the lamp :)

  48. Nash scores ….. Sather traded for him.
    Moore scores …… Sather traded for him.
    THE KREIDER scores …… Sather approved the draft pick.

    3 for 3 ….. again …. *to THE Sather*. Hip Hip….

  49. I’m not sure I believe Dolan knows enough about hockey to know a good or bad trade when he sees it.

  50. Doodie Machetto on

    Figures, Kreider plays great for 9 games, no goals, even including on a penalty shot and a couple of other breakaways.

    Last night, shot goes in off of a skate in a game he otherwise was not very visible.

    Speaking of not being visible, the Kreider-Stepan-MZA line is starting to lose some of its luster, and it’s not because of Kreider.

  51. _If Pouliot scores everyone will fawn all over him and his speed._

    Manny it is deer hunting season over here :)

  52. Kreider had a heavy, heavy wrister on a one-on-one as well. I thought he looked pretty solid all around.

    (Agree, that goal was a funny one for a guy who has put far better shots on net during the drought.)

  53. Doodie perhaps they should shine that line up with a MonteKRISTO :)

    The *All American* – Certified Gold – Line …… just saying.

  54. Doodie Machetto on

    I’m not saying he was bad, but it wasn’t like the past couple of weeks where you notice him doing great things on every shift.

  55. Gravy you have 2 locked up, I have 3, we are playing for 7.

    Please pass me my *Hungry Jack* :)

  56. The really good ones on O have that unteachable vision in their heads, as with Nash who utilizes an instinctive one-man Counter Trey misdirection.

  57. ‘Hungry Jack wasn’t old, but he was a man.
    He lived in the sand at the Isle of Man.
    The kids would all sing; he would take the wrong key,
    So they rode on his head in their furry donkey.’

    (No eyed deer what that means)

  58. I wonder how long until we maybe give a chance to a Brassard + Kreider pairing. I feel like A could set up B for some pretty amazing wristers.

  59. Doodie Machetto on

    The clock? It’s a pretty sweet clock, I’ll admit. But I’d rather go with the woman sniffing armpits.

  60. How about my new one?

    It’s a Gopher going down my toilet :)

    It makes me giggle ever time I have to take a leak.

  61. I reserve this LOGO just for Fighting Sioux / Gopher weekend.

    But then their coach got tired of losing to us so he canceled the series for 3 years. Seriously the best weekend in college hockey, anywhere!

  62. Doodie & I had a gentlemen’s bet on the trade.

    Kristo for Thomas. Who would be better this year.

  63. Rob in Beantown on

    I’ll be at the game tonight Sioux. Probably not tomorrow because I get in trouble with the boss if I try to go to two games in a weekend, if you know what I mean.

  64. Rob in Beantown on

    By the way, pretty sure tonight is on NBCSports nationally. Tomorrow is on local TV, but not sure if it will be on TV where you are

  65. Wish I was there with you.

    Send me your email.

    My team IS little sick, so we will see how they travel with the flu.

  66. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Still haven’t traded the mad bomber yet?? What gives? Just trade him for tootoo already, sheesh

  67. Is it possible Hank could leave the rangers and sign with the Red Wings. I’m starting to read around other national blogs and seem to see people saying it. I could see it happening. Red Wings is a great organization and you know they are rebuilding right now and probably will be winning more cups down the road.

  68. Rob in Beantown on

    I think you need a subscription, which I do not have, to watch BU games online. I don’t know any way to see them free

  69. Rob in Beantown on

    The Red Wings have Jimmy Howard signed through 2019 at a cap hit of $5.3M. Is Hank going to be enough of an upgrade over JH at $8M to make it worth it? From the Red Wings perspective, I say no

  70. BUT….Howard’s NTC is modified in the year 2017. So he is only really there for one more year before they can trade him to a 10 team list.

    _CLAUSES: NMC (through 2014-15); NTC (2015-16 through 2017-18; player can supply 10-team no-trade list)_

  71. Correct. I’m not counting my chickens just yet.

    But December is around the corners, and before you know it the year is over :)

  72. Rob in Beantown on

    I can’t see Henrik Lundqvist, international man of mystery, willingly signing himself to live in DETROIT

  73. So what are the teams that actually need a goalie and have cap space to sign Hank. Let’s figure that out first.

  74. Rob in Beantown on

    No, let’s figure out the cities where we can see Hank wanting to live. LA/Anaheim, Toronto, maybe Montreal. Maybe Chicago. Are there others?

  75. He’s only PLAYING in those cities. I’m sure if he wants to LIVE somewhere it’s NYC or Sweden.

    Tom Brady plays in Foxboro, MA but he doesn’t live there.

  76. Brassard is tied for 6th in points. But, he’s tied with Callahan and Hagelin who have played 8 and 10 less games, respectively. He’s also behind Kreider, who has played in 7 less games. He’s on pace for 34 points.

    I only reference points because he doesn’t really provide much else if he’s not producing.

    And, he’s only 3 points ahead of Bole.

  77. I’d argue being tied for 6th in points when you’ve had Pouliot sewn to your hip is pretty damn impressive.

  78. That’s all I look at with Centers, Gravy. And it scares me that Brassard has so many goals. I would rather him rack up the assists.

  79. A good Center, like Brad Richards, will put up about twice as many assists as he does goals. That’s how a Center gets to the 70 point area. Equal goals and assists means you’re not really topping 40 points.

  80. All that said, I’m not disappointed in the guy because he’s averaged 45 per 82 games played in his career, and he’s not that far off of that.

  81. I would rather they take the shot and score if it’s there.

    I’m tired of these “Zucc” passes to the abyss and no shot fired.

    Brassards pass was a thing of beauty last night!

  82. MD, well, he’s 8th in points per game out of the regulars, and that’s with Nash out of the picture.

  83. Would it be legal for us to play 4 on 5 and have Henrik AND Talbot in goal simultaneously? It might be as big an innovation since the forward pass.

  84. He is what he is, and that production is fine for a 3rd line C. Maybe when he breaks 50 points, we can start talking about how much better he can be/is.

  85. Toews is a free agent after 2014. I would do everything legal and illegal to sell him on the idea of NY and how cool NY would be.

  86. If you’re drinking Vigneault Pinot you are going to see a lot of Pouilly-Fuisse.

    Here’s hoping we can get the guy to smoke a cigar :)

  87. if you put brassard with Nash he will accumulate points with adding assist to Nash’s goals. That’s where brassard should be with, Nash, not hagelin and poops a lot.

  88. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Manny gravy – get off the brassard hate and give it an objective look- hatred is blinding – just saying

  89. _MD, well, he’s 8th in points per game out of the regulars, and that’s with Nash out of the picture._

    I’d argue being 8th in points out of the regulars when you’ve had Pouliot sewn to your hip is pretty damn impressive.

  90. Nash will accumulate points with or without Brassard. The point is, Brassard needs to *create* more chances for whoever is on his line. And he doesn’t do that consistently.

  91. With the cap going up supposedly, I don’t see the Blackhawk organization letting Toews getting to free agency.

  92. Maybe you’re right. Maybe Pouliot only seems like hot garbage because Brassard isn’t creating enough chances for him. I’ll consider that.

  93. _I’d argue being 8th in points out of the regulars when you’ve had Pouliot sewn to your hip is pretty damn impressive._

    LMGO

    E3, your blind hate of Gaborik is blinding you to the blindness of Brassard. I can see, I can see I’m going blind.

  94. _With the cap going up supposedly, I don’t see the Blackhawk organization letting Toews getting to free agency._

    Can’t make a guy sign who desperately wants to come to NY and be the next Messier and make the Hall of Fame and kiss celebrity girls and not be in a city thats awesome for 8 months and the coldest place on earth for the other 4.

  95. I meant OMG not POMG happy news is good. jpg and my Uncle passed away funeral is tomorrow so being included on the three stars IS SO GREAT

  96. On D, may as well leave Richie standing flat footed out by the red line for breakout passes. He’s totally useless in the D zone anyway.

  97. Should I remind youse guys of my suggested lines when Nash was coming back?

    Kreider – Stepan – MZA
    Hagelin – Richards – Callahan
    Miller – *Brassard* – *Nash*
    Boyle – Moore – Dorsett

  98. Brassard has been in on 2 of the 4 goals since Nash came back and forced AV to play a competent wing on his line.

  99. I don’t hate Brassard at all. I just have certain concerns about him being a legit top 2 line Center (which he gets paid like). I love his physicality in the corners in his own end and a long the half wall. Just, if he’s going to score a bunch of goals and not make the guys with him score, then he should move to the Wing and someone like Zucc who can’t stand to shoot should slide over to Center,

  100. Mister D, your kidding right? Toews desperately wants to come to New York? Where did you hear or get that tidbit of information.

  101. PimP – we should start *THE KREIDER for CALDER* campaign :)

    He could win it, if he could catch The HERTL.

  102. Gravy, I like those lines. I bet you Brassard would perform better. That line he is on now is like getting sent to Siberia.

  103. Agreed, Manny. I don’t hate Brassard either, I just know what to expect to him. I don’t think he’s #2 center. He’s fine as a #3. A 3rd line doesn’t have to be a checking line when you have a 4th line that’s capable of that.

  104. Kreider – Stepan – MZA
    Hagelin – Richards – Callahan
    Kristo – Brassard – Nash
    Boyle – Moore – Dorsett

    Miller needs to find his scoring, send him down for conditioning :)

  105. _if he’s going to score a bunch of goals and not make the guys with him score_

    Now you’re just being silly. Excepting elite players, points are symbiotic. Good players will be good together and good players will suck with bad players. If they’d be good no matter what, they’d be elite.

  106. Basically, put Callahan with Moore and Dorsett. Is he going to score 25 without wingers putting the puck on net? Of course not.

  107. Seriously The KREIDER is 3-9- 12pts in 15 games

    Hertl 12-6 – 18pts in 22 games.

    If The KREIDER could put up a Gordie Howe Hatty he would be in the running in my book!

  108. Yes, but there are players that make the other players on their lines better, too. Put Nash with Moore and Dorsett…sure his production would drop, but Moore and Dorsett’s would increase. Just not to the level that would make the move worth it.

    Brassard should be one of those players that makes his lines better, especially as a C.

  109. I’m surprised not more talk about Dolan. To me, he’s the biggest problem we have. The only reason he owns the Rangers is because they came in the package deal with the Knicks and MSG. He knows nothing about hockey, and that’s why he keeps Sather around. Sather probably schmoozes him, just like he said Torts did. So he’ll never get rid of Slats. In any other situation Slats would have been fired already instead of “He’s around as long as he wants to be”. Sounds just like Jerry Jones and Garrett. They want yes men who kiss their butt instead of someone who knows what they are doing. Sorry Slats, but the game passed you by 20 years ago, Dolan needs to recognize this, but he’s too busy ruining the Knicks.

  110. Miller’s huge mistake was showing up out of shape to a camp with a new coach. What’s up with that?

  111. stevek, there’s almost no point in discussing Dolan or Sather because it’s an exercise in futility. Better to discuss things that have a more realistic chance of changing.

  112. Miller’s still in pimples. He needs top minutes with the Pack! Instead of more minutes on the pine.

    PullOUT needs to be Prucha’d, he’s the perfect player for that position!

    But it will take another 10 games for AV figures that out.

    el Zotto might be traded before the Kristo KID gets his shot.

  113. Nash is a superstar, Brassard is not. If Brassard were good enough to elevate the offensive games of guys like Dorsett, he’d be a no-brainer #2 and due for a pretty serious raise.

  114. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Tommy – good point. Also, the Brassard haters should note that there were several games in which Brassard centered Boyle and Dorsett. Two 40 goal scorers if there ever were.

    Still wondering if Gabby can score 6 goals this year…just axin

  115. _He’s making $3.2M now and is a RFA with arbitration rights How much more are you paying him?_

    Did you not see what Tyler Bozak got on the open market? $3.2MM is a present day underpay if anything. Set him free tonight and he’s making a much better AAV tomorrow.

  116. Mike Vaccaro is my good friend, and I think he’s the best columnist in NYC, but this Dolan interview, yeesh.

    and I think you guys who use twitter should see what my other friend, Frank Isola of the News, is saying about it since he’s the sworn enemy of MSG.

    @FisolaNYDN

  117. FYI, just averaging Gabroik’s goals and assists over 12 seasons comes to 28G and 29A, injuries and all. Brassard hasn’t sniffed those totals in one season.

  118. I wish AV would just read this board and settle the dispute. Put Brassard with just our 2nd pair wings, give him Kreider and Hags for 10 games, and see what happens.

  119. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Gravy – I just did some checking…George Washington was a good president…..but today, maybe not so much given he’s been dead for 200 years…know what I’m sayin?

  120. Brassard is just NOT consistent enough to play in the top 6. With a coach like Tort he would certainly play his way in and out of the top 6 but with Vigneault he’s going to hang out on the 3rd line.

  121. Happy with J Moore, Dorsett and Brass. All are, each in his own way, integral. Would have preferred that Richie had been sent west rather than Gabby.

  122. I still think Brassard has upside. He has some of the skills of an Erik Christensen, but is a better overall player. Not close to a Stepan. Very inconsistent, obviously, throughout his career though. Still young.

  123. _Brassard is just NOT consistent enough to play in the top 6. With a coach like Tort he would certainly play his way in and out of the top 6 but with Vigneault he’s going to hang out on the 3rd line._

    As soon as my new favorite website gets the ice times up, or as soon as I get so bored I compile the games myself, I’m totally going to debunk this. As a Ranger, Brassard has almost perfectly gone as his linemates have gone. And not “he plays down with equals”, but “he plays down with garbage and checkers”. Start of the season w/ Richards on a wing and Brassard top 6, he scores. Middle of season with Brassard at 3C with Pouliot and Dorsett and the guys, he doesn’t score except goals he creates himself. Last 3 games post-Nash, 2 points (and a 3rd if his hand were a stick). He produces when given any shot whatsoever to produce.

  124. _Happy with J Moore, Dorsett and Brass. All are, each in his own way, integral. Would have preferred that Richie had been sent west rather than Gabby._

    Same view. If Brassard is your 3C, Dorsett a 4th line pest / PK and Moore a 3rd pair D with upside, you can be a really good team.

  125. I bet Dubinsky would be a really cool wing for Brassard. He would be like the perfect candidate to see who’s right here.

  126. I am rooting for Brassard as much as anybody. Unlike others, I’d rather Rangers prove me wrong than me be right.

    (Not directed at anyone)

  127. Brassard’s AAV is $3.2M, but he is actually making $3.7M this year. So that’s the amount they’ll have to qualify him in order to retain his rights. He is eligible for both player’s and team’s arbitration.

  128. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Gravy – babe Ruth hit 60 HR one year and 714 in his career….but alas, not so many recently…

  129. A veritable plethora of positivity. ‘Ain’t where you come from, son, it’s where you’re goin’.’

  130. Same boat (obviously, since my side involves more scoring if I’m right), but I can’t honestly say I’m always like that. Not to win internet arguments, but when we were up 3-1 last night, I really didn’t want Pouliot to score out of fear it would buy him another month or two.

  131. (If he wants to start ripping off a point every other game, that’s another story, I’ll gladly be retroactively wrong with a better team. But for a single, seemingly meaningless goal, I was rooting against.)

  132. I admit to feeling similar about Richards. I want him to score, score, but fear it might buy him another year here.

  133. Considering his age and upside, I think they’ll qualify him. And unless he starts producing at a higher pace, going to arbitration won’t be in his best interest. The Rangers, however, may take him to see an arbitrator.

  134. I’ll take the case on for Brassard (using Manny’s name and law degree).

    Exhibit A: Look at his g-damn linesmates

    Rest case.

  135. If you want to go super-present, player A $3.2M for 9 points on 3rd line, player B $1.7M for 6 points on 4th line, faceoffs, and PK.

  136. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I am going to disagree re brassard on a couple of points…

    First of all you give him linemates like step and secretariat have had all season and I pretty much guarantee he would have better stats.

    Also he has 36 hits vs steps 12 and secretariats 6 in the same number of games. He contributes more when not scoring than the other two do. He wouldn’t be the “friendly ghost” if he was in the top 6 where he should be.

  137. _I admit to feeling similar about Richards. I want him to score, score, but fear it might buy him another year here._

    That’s a good one too. He’s the 18th ranked guy I want scoring every night, but that’s one above “don’t score”.

  138. _If you want to go super-present, player A $3.2M for 9 points on 3rd line, player B $1.7M for 6 points on 4th line, faceoffs, and PK._

    Honestly, I see that as an argument that Boyle is underpaid. He’s totally going to Prust this board after 2013-14.

  139. _First of all you give him linemates like step and secretariat have had all season and I pretty much guarantee he would have better stats._

    ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

  140. Secretariat has 6 hits? Ron Turcotte hit the real Big Red more in the stretch at the Belmont than Richie has hits. And that’s NONE.

  141. It’s not would he put up more points than he has now…that’s hardly debatable. It’s would he put up *more* points than Richards or Stepan has? There’s been nothing in his career to indicate he would.

  142. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    When gabby produced he was good…just didn’t produce enough…hurt too often, too quick to head out of his own end…not so great defensively….No doubt that he had a great, quick shot and good wheels… But the wheels are no longer….

  143. If Brassard plays his way into the top 6 that’s great. But he shouldn’t just be handed those minutes because his current linemates aren’t up to snuff.

  144. coos, if he gets past July, it’s not one more year. He gets the whole contract — no more buyouts until the next lockout — which dips to $1M his last three years, which will make him retire early, which will destroy the franchise for years due to the cap recapture hit.

  145. _Weren’t Richards and Brassard linemates while Callahan and Hagelin were out?_

    Yup, and Brassard started the season with 4 points in 6 games. He didn’t “play himself off the top 6″ like Spamny is implying.

  146. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    13) More likely a product of the team assembled by Sather than ticket prices.

  147. Here’s a repost, though I may add Brassard just to upset the apple cart.

    WBM©

    0) Boyle
    1) Pouliot
    2) MotZ
    3) Richards
    4) Stralman
    5) D. Moore

  148. actually, somebody with the NHL texted me this morning about 13) … and noted, correctly, that it has something to do, too, with the small-market teams that have no business in such an elite event … teams that can’t fill their own buildings, never mind a 50,000 seat venue.

  149. E3, see my lines above. My idea was just to replace Pouliot with Nash when he came back and leave everything else alone.

  150. I think the team assembled by Sather two years ago, playing Philly in Yankee Stadium, would have sold out in a day.

    thanks for the meter, Gravy.

  151. My god these game logs are infuriating. Who else loves excel?

    =if(Brassard top linemate Pouliot,point,no point)

  152. _And here come the ridiculous stats that mean nothing…_

    Tangible proof that Brassard produces when on a line with talented players? Bah! Means nothing!

  153. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Then we are in agreement. 2012 team, sold out in a day. Few want to pay top dollar to see a .500 team.

  154. Carp I think Brassard needs someone he can score with, not sure who that person is, maybe Nash. I think once he has chemistry – the confidence and goals will come in bushels.

  155. I only said that to make you mad The Doctor. But in reality, advanced stats are only part of the component. The other 80% is what I see with my eyes.

  156. We need a CarpStats glossary or translation macro so “Fenwick” just turns into “shots at goal”.

  157. You’ve seen those points with your eyes and you’ve seen Pooliot with your eyes. I think we’re at 100% by now.

  158. Stranger Nation on

    How is Cally’s production playing with Bucky? Nash can create his own, Cally not so much. Cally assisted on Nash goal last night.

    In last 5 games at even strength on Bucky’s wing Cally has 0 pts

    Brad ‘The Anvil” Richards

  159. So what you’re saying Carp is the Islanders and the Devils don’t fill their buildings?

  160. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Doubt that. The Rangers were on a 7 game winning streak that brought them to 7 games above .500 on November 15.

  161. MD, you don’t need Fenwick and Corsi to tell you that players will score more if they play with players that score more.

    Can it tell me if players will score more than players who already scored more?

  162. Instead of suits, you’ll see 45,000 Vicuna overcoats, all with corporate tickets in the pockets.

  163. Its really the inverse argument, Gravy. Its not that the Rangers would be better with Brassard on the top line, its that Brassard would be better and the Rangers would be the same. The disappointment surrounding Brassard is tied to his usage, not his play.

  164. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Mister D, you really think Brassard would be better if used differently?

  165. Lets say Manny is working with two other senior lawyers, Manny and the two other seniors are all solid. Each senior get two junior lawyers. Of the six junior lawyers, four are very good and two are bad. Manny gets the two worst. One of those two is named Pouliot. If Manny’s team does the worst work of the three groups, do you say “why didn’t Manny suddenly get better at lawyering to outperform the others” or are you logical and say “of course Manny’s team performed the worst, those two juniors he had suck”?

  166. If Brassard, making $3.2M, would score as much as Richards, making $6.7M, then it reinforces the argument based on cap hit.

    Richards, as terrible as he was last year, was on pace for 63 points. Brassard has never had 49. Even the 4 points in (an admittedly small sample) 6 games is a 55 point pace.

  167. _Mister D, you really think Brassard would be better if used differently?_

    I think its beyond opinion to the point of demonstrably true, albeit in a small sample. When he came over last year, he played on solid lines and he produced. Same with the first 2 weeks of the season. Same with post-Nash return. Almost by rule as a Ranger, when he’s played with talent, he’s contributed points.

  168. Why don’t you just use the “a machine is only as good as it’s slowest part” argument. That’s a good one.

  169. Gravy, in the SSS of 6 games, the Rangers only scored 11 goals total. 55 point pace on a team scoring less than 2 per game isn’t bad.

  170. _Why don’t you just use the “a machine is only as good as it’s slowest part” argument. That’s a good one._

    There you go. Except its more of a 2/3 rule. 2/3 good line is usually fine. 2/3 bad line is usually crap. Or you have John Taveras.

  171. There is absolutely no way you bother qualifying Brassard at what he costs. It’s insane. Spend that money on Dubinsky.

  172. Here’s a head shaker –

    Wayne Gretzky was good enough as a playmaker that he would have been the NHL’s all-time leading scorer if he had never scored a single goal. 1,963 assists.

  173. Kenneth, there wasn’t even a public sale of tickets to that event, per se. Season subscribers of the two clubs were offered a chance in October to buy a maximum of two tickets each. Both teams had very limited inventory. The Rangers were like 3-3-3 or 4-3-3 entering November. It had nothing to do with filling that stadium.

  174. _There is absolutely no way you bother qualifying Brassard at what he costs. It’s insane._

    THAT’S IT, I’M TELLING EVERYONE.

    Manny made me promise not to tell. He’s confided in me that he actually thinks Stralman is *really good* and *a top 4 D on any team*, he just hates him because Stralman used to *date Manny’s wife*.

  175. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  176. I would expect Manny to put processes in place to train and improve his staff.

    LOL at one named Pouliot.

  177. Gravy,
    “…FYI, just averaging Gabroik’s goals and assists over 12 seasons comes to 28G and 29A, injuries and all. Brassard hasn’t sniffed those totals in one season.”
    Funny, it is like average temperature in hospital’s patients. (between dead and healed, probably close to normal). Amateur statistic is always non-sensical.
    What happens with old: “Timing is everything”?
    And BTW, for statlovers,- in a time of this trade Gabby was 35G,9+10 = 19 in our team; Brass – 34G, 7+11 = 18 for BJ. After trade: Gabby – 29G,8+11=19; Brass -34G,9+11=20, but for approx.1/3 of Gabby’s contract.
    (not to mention little nonsense like J.Moore and DD).

  178. All the players’ fathers are going to Nashville. Kids will be on their best behavior. Dads could be a problem. :)

  179. I wonder how good Gretzky would be in today’s game. Better goaltending, but also less clutching and grabbing.

  180. Gretzky would be amazing any time, any era, any team, whatever. He was amazing. Unless he had Pouliot on his line. Then I’d guess 29-9-38 over 82.

  181. The argument isn’t about Gaborik and Brassard. It’s about how good Brassard is perceived to be versus how good he actually is.

  182. better goaltending? how about bigger equipment that allows the goalies to drop to there knees and let the puck hit them.
    if Gretzky were playing today he would break all the records he set.

  183. _The argument isn’t about Gaborik and Brassard. It’s about how good Brassard is perceived to be versus how good he actually is._

    Versus how much worse any good player would look when paired with crappy linemates.

  184. Really, its not breaking new ground to say “its better to play with 2nd line wingers than 3rd line wingers and its better to play with 1st line wingers than 2nd line wingers”, is it? If that’s the case, you’re just agreeing that Brassard’s true talent doesn’t equal his YTD output. The end. He’s great, everyone else sucks. We should sign him for $6.7MM per year and give him Richards’ spot.

  185. MD, I pretty much said that above. Brassard has just never consistently shown it. I mean, I guess we can build the whole team around what makes him better.

  186. _MD, I pretty much said that above. Brassard has just never consistently shown it. I mean, I guess we can build the whole team around what makes him better._

    He’s never been in a spot to consistently show it. He didn’t play consistently with the only good player on Columbus when Columbus sucked hard. Post-Columbus, he’s consistently shown it to the extent he’s been consistently not on the 3rd line.

  187. Come on, man. Brassard has been in the league for a few years. Nash excelled in ‘Lumbus. Prospal did fine. Brassard just wasn’t consistent. He’s not consistent now either.

  188. my opinion as to why goal scoring is down ( besides goalie equipment), is that the game has become over coached. fewer and fewer players are coming up that play with instinct. they have been coached to clog the neutral zone, chip the puck out, think defense first, and my favorite, “manage the puck”. making a play with the puck has become the exception, not the rule. the players today are bigger and faster. but there hockey IQ does not exist.

  189. I think you’re stealing my point, Manny. His last year in Columbus, his linemates were Prospal (out of league), Letestu (1 goal in 22 games) and Umberger. His chances to play regularly with good players have been with us. And when he has, he’s been way above career pace.

  190. I’m getting a sitter and spending every second of this weekend building a database of Brassard’s ice time. Its going to be the most amazing thing ever. And I’m making a calzone from scratch because calzones are awesome and even better from scratch. But first I need to shower.

  191. That’s a REALLY good question.

    How many points could TGO get in today’s game.

    Defensemen are bigger, faster, stronger.

    The game has changed.

    I would say he would hang with Crosby and Stamkos, but he wouldn’t be getting 200pts and 93 goals that’s for sure.

  192. You’re not actually doing that, The Doctor. We all know your an ideas man. Look where your “game” went on the blog.

  193. Pimp I nominate you as President of the *”THE KREIDER for CALDER”* campaign.

    Do I have a second?

  194. I’m sure Bob will stink up my goalie numbers!

    But I need a shut out from him sooner or later.

  195. _You’re not actually doing that, The Doctor. We all know your an ideas man. Look where your “game” went on the blog._

    I was Brassard (great idea) and you were Pouliot (support so poor it sabotaged everything).

  196. Brief, Insignificant Ode to a Dish-washing Detergent

    ‘Dawn, go away, I’m no good for you…’

  197. Whatever number wins the Rocket Richard trophy this year, add 15-25 goals and that’s what TGO would get minimally. Not to mention twice as many assists as the runnerup.

  198. TGO changed the game.

    No 4 on 4 after a penalty. He dominated the ice during that time.

    I’m just saying scoring is down in the NHL. He records will never be touched.

    But IF he played today, his numbers would be as high. I’m not a Crosby fan at all, but would TGO really out score Crosby and AO, by 25 goals, and 2x their assist?

    over 100pts for sure, but not 150.

  199. MD we said that about Parise, and that went over like a fart in church.

    I wish, but don’t see that happening.

  200. Matty"NashIsBack!!"Boy on

    Carpy, great review as always, my friend.

    Do you have any data on how many tickets have sold or remain for the outdoor games? Me thinks the prices are obscene and if they lowered them they would sell out in due time.

  201. Stranger Nation on

    Bros-hard: 34 pts in 47 games in Blue. 57 pt pace

    Not so bad for a 3rd line center

    Dubi’s best year 59 pts in 82 games

  202. thx, Matty. No, I don’t have numbers. I was just surprised that they were running ads and promos for tickets. Don’t imagine that happened in 2012. Actually, it didn’t.

  203. dubi isn’t do bad either, in 21 games 5 goals 10 assist, would be tied with stepan for second on the rangers and stepan has played 1 more game.

  204. Carp, dubi was my favorite ranger. It got me really mad when ranger fans on here would knock him but I let it go. Those same fans wish they had him back.

  205. The game has changed so much.

    TGO and teammates like Messier, Kurri, Coffey, & Anderson. Where SO much better than the competition.

    But their goalie Fuhr 3.61 GA, that was about average back then. Now a good goalie is 2.0 – 2.25 or below.

  206. one never knows, maybe when Dubi becomes a free agent after next year he’ll come back home where he belongs, in a ranger uniform.

  207. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Henrik Lundqvist only donated $10,000 to the Philippines. That is all he could muster. I am disappointed. It is also appalling that he revealed the amount. There is no reason to reveal that unless he is attempting to enhance his appearance.

  208. I think its quite obvious Brassard has been hampered by playing with offensively challenged linemates (and on the second PP unit) for the majority of the season.

    That said, unless one of Brassard, Richards or Stepan moves to the wing, one of those three will have to play on the 3rd line. Given that Pouliot is not playing like they hoped, whomever is on the 3rd line will have one weak linemate.

    So basically the question is this:

    Which two of Nash, Callahan, Stepan, Richards, Hagelin, The Kreider, Zuccarello and Brassard should be on the 3rd line with the unproductive linemate?

  209. Matty"NashIsBack!!"Boy on

    Kenneth @ 6:09, just curious, what is a ‘respectable’ donation to the Philippines from Hank?

  210. For all the Torts bashers, you think this current “who’s my next fall guy” coach is the answer?

    He denigrates MDZ thereby reducing any value either to his team or as trade value.

    Frankly only the weak are motivated by fear in any case!

    What an idiot!

  211. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    AV >> Torts

    The Nucks aren’t exactly tearing up the west…They’d miss the playoffs if the season ended today…that’s a lot of skill that is being mis-coached…

  212. word out of VC is that the top guys are exhausted and the PP stinks. Seriously. And statistically speaking Stralman is the Rangers best D

  213. Asking if Gretzky would put up the same numbers in today’s NHL is silly for several reasons: 1. have you guys watched highlights of him? He was amazing, but watch everybody else. Alot of those guys dont look like they’d make it in the AHL, never mind the NHL. Guys skate better, faster, and are stronger. now maybe the caveat to that would be that in whatever era he grew up, Gretzky would dominate because he’d still have that insane hockey sense.
    2. Gretzky and Messier are guys who really changed the way the game was played. Gretz just controlled the entire game. Messier demonstrated just how much size and stregth could bring to his great skill set. Remember how Lindros was this once-in-a-lifetime talent because of his size, strength and skill? Now more guys than ever have all of that.

  214. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Peter – it was only a matter of time. Didn’t take long for VC to tire of the car seat. Tremendous PP indeed…

  215. Islanders down 2-0 to pukesburgh, Islanders look like they have hit rock bottom. They look pathetic.

  216. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Islanders have sucked since the Moulson Gold trade…Do they still make Bradour Beer? That stuff was potent!

  217. ED3, yea, when I read about that trade I couldn’t believe it, it made no sense than and it makers no sense now but that is what you get when you hire a gm who recently retired from your team.

  218. Stranger Nation on

    Tommy – Dubi is doind much better, think he needed to get out of the Naked City. His last season in blue he had 34 pts @ $4.2MM and was dropped to third line.

    Was surprised they would trade 2 centers (Dubi, Artie) & a #1 which makes no sense unless you are counting on Richards and Step to play 1 & 2 pivot.

    Richards demose and subsequent call from above to play him top 6 will end up hurting this team during the second half of the season. Just like it did last year.

  219. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Brassard is 26 and is in his 7th season in the NHL. He is not going to get any better or any more consistent. He is what he is. A questionable top 6 forward.

  220. SN, I think it was a combination of nagging injuries and torts riding dubi and the 2 not seeing eye to eye after a while. I bet you Dubi would do well with AV’s system.

  221. by the way, is it me or does the Canucks look like the tort’s rangers lately, struggling to score goals and tort’s getting aggravated. It appears the romance up in British Columbia has worn off.

  222. “It is a curious thing, the death of a loved one. We all know that our time in this world is limited, and that eventually all of us will end up underneath some sheet, never to wake up. And yet it is always a surprise when it happens to someone we know. It is like walking up the stairs to your bedroom in the dark, and thinking there is one more stair than there is. Your foot falls down, through the air, and there is a sickly moment of dark surprise as you try and readjust the way you thought of things.”
    ? Lemony Snicket, Horseradish: Bitter Truths You Can’t Avoid

    jpg’s sister and i will miss you Uncle Dom

  223. Kenneth at clinchers of '89Flames '94Rangers '96Avs on

    Matty @6:31:

    An acceptable donation is a matter of opinion. My opinion is the donation amount should have had an extra 0 at the end, at least.

    It is deplorable that he revealed the amount he contributed to begin with.

  224. anybody interested?

    @DarrenDreger

    …And yes, I did say on Sportscentre the Hurricanes have offered Ruutu and Tlusty to teams. Part of Canes search for a puck-moving d-man.

  225. Carp

    I would absolutely trade Del Zotto for Tlusty

    In 48 games last year, he had 23 goals and 15 assists. That’s 39 goals and 26 assists over 82 games.

    Granted it was likely a fluke and he’s not producing now, but I think he would be a definite upgrade over Pouliot and round out our top 3 lines, plus he’s an expiring contract with a low cap hit.

    We’ll eventually need a d-man for the playoffs, but that can be done at the deadline for a 2nd round pick or so…

  226. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Jpg & jpg’s sister – may your uncle Dom rest in peace. I have to believe that he watches over you, your family, and his friends. Death is the cruelest of all ironies…

    Peace be with you…

  227. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Ricardo – we might be back east in time for the winter classics……for 2 tickets to each game, lots of hot chocolate, and parking….I’m looking to drop 400K at the Bronx ATM….does this sound right? Or will I need deeper pockets?

  228. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    I’m not a fan of this death thing. Makes no sense. How can we be full of life one moment and POOF – gone the next. One great mystery I hope I, or anyone close to me, need not meet up with anytime soon…

  229. Tickets have seemed STEEP for the outdoor game. But I would imagine the market hits a lot point about 3 weeks before the game.

  230. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    I think Matty might know……with the Dow Climbing over 16K and NASDAQ inching closer to 4000, I might be able to fly back east, attend both games, and return home if I can keep costs down to half a mil (not including hotel of course).

  231. Eddie, Bring your long underwear and wear plastic bags between your boots and thermal socks. Keep an extra sock available for you know what, it’s cold in the Bronx in January.

  232. Eddie: if you’re coming east you’re sharing a bottle if red with me and Mrs. Manny. You better not think you’re getting out of that

  233. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Scoring is down because the game is too fast…laugh if you will, but it’s true.

    Manny
    Your 4:19 post is a riot. Most here complained at what dubi was making per year for his production (like 4.2 mil per), but you say don’t qualify brassard (which I believe would cost just under 4 mil per) and use that money plus a little more to get dubi back. So aren’t we paying dubi the same as before?

    Lol at mario vs TGO and I had one of them as the 5th best player of all time and the other not even in the top 5.

    Gotta love different viewpoints/opinions

  234. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Ruutu available from the canes for a D man?? Goodbye mad bomber or Staal, enjoy Carolina.

  235. Matty"NashIsBack!!"Boy on

    Nice Pittsburgh is allowed to hack away and no penalty called. Is this ‘NHL Rivalry Night’????

  236. I LOVE Brassard. I just think he’s a third line center. I think he’s physical and if third line production is what you’re expecting he’s a plus.

    I love Dubinsky. Love. Consummate teammate. I think around $3M is proper for Dubinsky.

  237. Matty"NashIsBack!!"Boy on

    Wicky, Ruutu earns $4.75M per, next 3. His production is stagnant or decreasing. I realize he plays on Carolina, but he’d need to be scouted carefully at this point. Like his feisty play, though.

    Manny, I agree on Dubie. He didn’t win many fights, but he was part of what made the team, 2 years ago, so tough to play against. People were upset with him because of his $4M+ salary and low production that year. What’s his work away from the puck worth? And now that he’s back to scoring some he’s more valuable. He, like Prust = consummate teammate.

  238. Matty"NashIsBack!!"Boy on

    I don’t like players that don’t fulfill their expected potential. Poulet is the poster child of that and a great example. Brassard is another.

  239. Yup. You said it better than me, Matty. If I’m look g at a 3rd line Center I would take Dubinsky over Brassard. I like Brassard. A lot. But that my choice.

    My body my choice.

  240. Matty"NashIsBack!!"Boy on

    Dubie added so much more to this team. He is a born and raised Ranger. He was so close to Cally, especially. Not to say Cally has fallen off, but it is positive to have a nucleus together for years. They fed off each other like Boyle and Prust. Sometimes you just have that chemistry.

    I’d take Dubie over Brass if salaries were close to similar.

  241. Crosby scores the game winner and waits for his teammates
    To come to him.

    Ovechkin scores a goal to decrease the deficit by which he is losing and skates off alone to fist pump.

  242. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Manny – should we come back,I’ll bring at least a case of good reds….funny thing tho, I am drinking almost exclusively chardonnay these days

  243. Mrs. Manny loves the Chard. She was having some at dinner this evening. I’m on a big beer kick.

    I will drink anything with you Eddie. Anything.

  244. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Papa – no worries, my package runs ’bout 105F. Veritable heat warmers. Had I been on the Titantic, I’d have dropped them overboard and that iceberg would’ve shrunk into a soda cup….

  245. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Well to be honest, I had a nice CAB last night….BV 2007. An amazing year round these parts for the reds….

  246. I put a smiley on the post after that, and it said “duplicate comment.” I’m selling any tech stocks I might have. Searching.

  247. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Dirk Diggler – “you hungry?”

    Jessie St. Vincent -“starving”

    Dirk Diggler – “feast on this”

  248. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Latona – lovely night here….having a chilled Chardonnay (scheid 2008) and chatting it up with you nice folks….

  249. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    He speaks Gaelic in French

    Birds learn to fly from him.

    His essence glows brighter than the sun

    Stay thirsty my friends

  250. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Kooz – we have a large terrarium full of large toads….. And I’ve yet to see a Johnson….not that I spend EVERY waking moment looking…..

  251. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Ricardo – if my 10:55 were to come true, would you come out for the road games? I’d take you out to some creme de la creme seafood places….

  252. “It’s easy to grin
    when your ship comes in
    and you’ve got the stock market beat.
    But the man worthwhile
    is the man who can smile
    when his shorts are too tight in the seat”.

    “Okay, pookie. Do the honors.”

  253. Miguel Angel Jimenez, the most interesting man in the world. ‘I don’t often play golf, but when I do…’

  254. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Ovie has a nice 70’s porn stache. What is it with 70’s porn staches? I might have to grow one….

  255. Any major dude with half a heart surely will tell you my friend –
    Any minor world that breaks apart falls together again.
    When the demon is at your door
    In the morning it won’t be there no more
    Any major dude will tell you

  256. Rob in Beantown on

    Good win by BU on national TV. O’connor made some huge saves and Saunders did not look that sharp. Also, Tambellini did not really seem to be a factor in that one. I bet the Sioux win tomorrow night. It’s tough to sweep a team like that

  257. The alarm just went off in the moderation guys office. He thought he was in for a quiet overnight shift.

  258. Isn’t it funny how ‘profanity’ only really works well when it is succinct and unexpected? As in eddie’s 11:28, and Papa’s 11:38.

  259. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Profane, propane, down the drain, USS Maine, sheet stain, weather vane, all in vain, blue vein, capital gain

    Boyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  260. ‘Harvey’s a CPA.
    He works for IBM.
    He went to MIT and got his PhD.
    Sheila’s a girl I know,

    Works At B.B.D.& O.
    She works the PBX,
    And makes out the checks.

    Harvey’s a CPA.
    He works for IBM.
    He went to MIT and got his PhD.
    Sheila’s a girl I know,
    She works at B.B.D.&O

    She works the PBX,
    And makes out the checks.

    She shopped at A & P.
    He bought a used MG.
    They sat and watched TV
    On their RCA.

    Borrowed from HFC,
    Bought some AT&T,
    And on election day, worked for JFK.

    Harvey and Sheila, Harvey and Sheila, Harvey and Sheila,
    Moved to West LA.
    Harvey and Sheila, Harvey and Sheila, Harvey and Sheila,
    Flew TWA.

    They bought a house one day,
    Financed by FHA.
    It had a swimming pool, full of H2O.

    Traded their used MG
    For a new XKE.
    Switched to the GOP,
    That’s the way things go.’

  261. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Kooz – when the pimp announced he had the big C, I was his angel…..and he’s in remission ;) power of prayer…

  262. Lady Gaga rumored to be a hermaphrodite. Also Jamie Lee Curtis. How do I know? Me and Tom Paxton read it in the Daily News.

  263. Dolan confirmed that the only way Sather is going outta the door is feet first…

    [Projectile vomiting]

  264. Every time I post a smiley face, I’m told I ‘already said that.’ Just so y’all know I’m smiling over here.

  265. Be interesting to see of DelZaster gets yanked again. It seems AV likes to keep the line-up the same after a win.

  266. Torts arriving home to wife after long road trip: “How my dogs doin’?”

    Wife: “Drop dead.”

  267. Common trait of serial killers, during their formative years, they often prefer to be in the company of animals over humans.

  268. Stranger Nation on

    Justice: The charge is consorting with a minor. How plead you?
    Your honor, I plead insanity. I iz jus craazy bout them girl

  269. Stranger Nation on

    Torts loves canines for their unyeilding loyalty and inability to converse with language. The picking their poop up..not so much

  270. “You wear a dress, baby
    I’ll wear a tie
    We’ll laugh at that old bloodshot moon
    In that burgundy sky!”

  271. ‘You can take all the tea in China
    Put it in a big brown bag for me
    Sail right around the seven oceans
    Drop it straight into the deep blue sea.’

  272. ‘I’m gonna wake you up early
    Cause I’m gonna take a ride with you
    Were going down to the Honda shop,
    Ill tell you what were gonna do –
    Put on a ragged sweatshirt
    Ill take you anywhere you want me to.’

  273. Stranger Nation on

    Ex3 – watched ” last 48 hours of Oswald’s life” tonite with teeage son. He could not believe what happened. Kept saying, is this real?

    and the all white jury agreeeed

  274. Get some sour cream and onion chips with some dip, man, some beef jerky, some peanut butter. Get some Häagen-Dazs ice cream bars, a whole lot, make sure chocolate, gotta have chocolate, man. Some popcorn, red popcorn, graham crackers, graham crackers with marshmallows, the little marshmallows and little chocolate bars and we can make s’mores, man. Also, celery, grape jelly, Cap’n Crunch with the little Crunch berries, pizzas. We need two big pizzas, man, everything on ’em, with water, whole lotta water, and Funyons.

  275. Larry was the oldest, Joey was next to last
    They called Joe “Crazy,” the baby they called “Kid Blast”

  276. ‘One child grows up to be
    Somebody that just loves to learn.
    Another child grows up to be
    Somebody who just loves to burn.

    Momma loves the both of them the same,
    You see it’s in the blood.’

  277. ‘Judge said, “I now pronounce you 99 to life.
    Son, that’s no lady, that’s your wife.”

  278. Desire, one of my favorite Dylan Albums. Enjoyed the heavy emphasis of the fiddle/violin coursing through the songs.

  279. ‘By the old wooden stove where our hats was hung
    Our words were told, our songs were sung
    Where we longed for nothing and were quite satisfied
    Talking and joking about the world outside…

    With haunted hearts through the heat and cold
    We never thought we could ever get old
    We thought we could sit forever in fun
    But our chances really was a million to one.’

  280. ‘If I could save time in a bottle
    The first thing that I’d like to do
    Is to save every day till eternity passes away
    Just to spend them with you

    If I could make days last forever
    If words could make wishes come true
    I’d save every day like a treasure and then
    Again, I would spend them with you.’

  281. Edward111, the record comparisons re: Vancouver and the Rangers were not the point with respect to this coach denigrating players publically.

    Do you believe this is a good tactic in any vocation or is a serious motivating factor?

    From all appearances this coach is setting the stage for disowning any problems by dumping on players in a public forum.

    The proper, respectful manner is to do so privately. IMO it says more about the coach than the player(s) in question.

Leave A Reply

Protected with IP Blacklist CloudIP Blacklist Cloud