Martin Biron announces his retirement

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From the NYR:

MARTIN BIRON ANNOUNCES RETIREMENT

NEW YORK, October 20, 2013 – New York Rangers goaltender Martin Biron announced his retirement today, ending a 16-year National Hockey League career, which included five 20-win seasons (2001-02, 2003-04, 2005-06, 2007-08, 2008-09), two 30-win seasons (2001-02, 2007-08), and a trip to the 2008 Eastern Conference Finals with the Philadelphia Flyers.

Biron, 36, is one of only five players in NHL history to play for all three teams in the state of New York, along with Rangers forward Taylor Pyatt, as well as Pat LaFontaine, Mike Donnelly, and Jason Dawe. He leaves the game ranked 59th on the NHL’s all-time games played list among goaltenders with 508 career appearances, tied for 56th all-time in wins with 230 career victories, and tied for 55th all-time with 28 career shutouts.

The 6-2, 186-pounder has appeared in 508 career regular season contests over 16 seasons with the Rangers, New York Islanders, Philadelphia Flyers, and Buffalo Sabres, posting a record of 230-191-25-27, along with a 2.62 goals against average, .910 save percentage, and 28 shutouts. Biron is one of only 12 goalies in NHL history with a career save percentage of .910 or better while appearing in at least 500 games.

Biron signed with the Rangers as a free agent on July 1, 2010. In four seasons as a Blueshirt, he posted a record of 22-15-3, along with a 2.47 goals against average, .908 save percentage, and two shutouts in 46 games. He made his debut with the team on October 21, 2010, stopping 24 shots in a 2-1 win at Toronto. In 2011-12, Biron posted his personal single-season highs as a Ranger with 12 wins and two shutouts in 21 appearances. That season, he became the 60th goaltender in NHL history to appear in 500 career regular season games, and finished the campaign tied for fourth among NHL goaltenders with three assists.

Prior to joining the Rangers, Biron appeared in 29 games with the New York Islanders during the 2009-10 season. He recorded his 200th career victory with a 38-save shutout in a 5-0 win against Buffalo on October 31, 2009.

Biron backstopped the Philadelphia Flyers for three seasons from 2006-07 to 2008-09. In 2007-08, Biron established a career-high with a .918 save percentage (minimum 20 games played) and tied his career-high with five shutouts, which tied for sixth in the NHL. That season, he became the first Flyers’ goaltender in six years to record back-to-back shutouts, en route to being named the NHL’s First Star of the Week for the week ending October 21, 2007, after posting a 3-0-0 record, 0.66 goals against average, .982 save percentage and two shutouts over the span.

The Lac St. Charles, Quebec native began his career in Buffalo, where he was originally selected as a first round choice, 16th overall, in the 1995 NHL Entry Draft. Biron made his NHL debut as an 18-year old on December 26, 1995, at Pittsburgh, during a three-game stint with the Sabres. He earned his first career victory on March 5, 1999, with a 26-save effort in a 2-1 win against Dallas, and posted his first career shutout with an 18-save performance on November 19, 1999, in a 4-0 win at Atlanta.

Biron established career-highs in games played (72), wins (31), and goals against average (2.22) with the Sabres during the 2001-02 season. He ranked second in the NHL that season in games played, third in total ice-time (4,085), tied for ninth in save percentage (.915), and 10th in wins and goals against average. His 72 appearances tied the Sabres’ record for games played in a single season at the time, and his 31 wins tied for fifth on the franchise’s all-time list.

In Stanley Cup Playoff action, Biron posted a record of 11-12 with a 2.87 goals against average, .908 save percentage and two shutouts in 23 career postseason contests with Philadelphia. He led the Flyers to the 2008 Eastern Conference Finals, registering a 9-8 mark with a 2.97 goals against average and one shutout in 17 games. His nine wins and 17 appearances both ranked fourth in the NHL that playoff season.

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  1. They should model a shooter tutor after Biron and market it as having an extra-wide five hole.

    In all seriousness, best wishes Marty.

  2. Doodie Machetto on

    Carp’s typical response is: Clark Gillies is in, so X should be good enough.

    But objectively, Biron isn’t even close.

  3. eddie/Doodie, double vibin’. The MZA experiment needs to end. I’m over Pouliot too, all he’s done is take penalties and not score.

  4. I think Marty is going to take some time off and hang out with his old pal Chris Drury. I think Marty will be the starting Delivery boy.

  5. I’m usually dissatisfied with the first few weeks of the season and cast them aside as being mostly meaningless, but something’s not right this year. I really think this team is going to keep failing unless there are significant changes.

    I’m over Girardi too. Was never his biggest fan. Makes too many boneheaded decisions, and doesn’t seem able to use his best attributes to the fullest under AV and this new system. Girardi, however, probably has considerable trade value. I would explore that, maybe packaging Boyle with him. Boyle’s defensively responsible, but the man’s a giant Kleenex. Those players could be valuable to a contender around the trade deadline.

  6. Gift of GAB-orik on

    I can fill in the blanks Carp…

    *chew on cigar*
    hmm… need me a big name to make a splash on this roster.
    I know i’ll call
    -eric lindros-
    -markus naslund-
    -mark messier- wait crap he wanted to be coach…
    -alex frolov-
    -bryan mccabe-
    -brad richards- right right… already have him…

    um… who is this Vanek guy in Buffalo?

    *chew on cigar*

    Somebody get me an issue of the Hockey News… I gotta find me a player!

  7. eddie eddie eddie on

    latona – you and I should run the team.

    Rich – if you could peer inside that empty head behind the curtain, how many cubic feet of air would you see?

  8. eddie eddie eddie on

    The season is obviously far from over, but the passionless play and the high level of disengagement is very odd for so early in the season,,,,this is how teams normally play in late march after they’ve been eliminated from the playoff…

  9. Doodie Machetto on

    “I’m over Pouliot too, all he’s done is take penalties and not score.”

    I like when he goes to the net. He obviously hasn’t finished, but his shooting percentage should increase to approach his career average (about 13%).

    I don’t like when he plays with Brassard and thinks he is actually a skilled hockey player. Keep it simple and attack the net, and I think he could be a solid third liner.

  10. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    Damnit, I’m BANJing like crazy on the last thread

    repost

    Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!!
    Best of luck to Biron!

    October 20th, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!!
    Doodie
    NO EMAIL!!!

    October 20th, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!!
    Ok, Brassard has the 2nd highest +/- on the team (if you like that stat, I don’t) and is 3rd in points (not saying much). He, like most other highly gifted offencive players is streaky. I’d take him over stepan in a heartbeat. How many times have you seen him get his clock cleaned like step or mza did last night? He is under performing like the rest of this team, but bad move dumping him.

    October 20th, 2013 at 12:34 PM

  11. Marty must have accumulated a nice portfolio to walk away from a million three to sit on a bench for a few months.

  12. eddie eddie eddie on

    Of all the team sports, Hockey requires the most “team buy in”. Players need to care deeply about each other and be willing to punish those that attempt to destroy their brutha….Selfless play, all for one, hurt mine and we destroy yours…..not the ranger MO this year…

  13. Bit of a golden parachute was most likely handed to Mr. Biron. He is going to get paid to broadcast in Canada as well. He might even be part of the olympic broadcast team.

    I’m with Wicky (obviously) although I love Stepan but he’s looking like flashes of Richards after missing Camp.

  14. Gift of GAB-orik on

    And you will know… MY NAME IS THE LORD…. when i lay these bus tickets to Hartford upon thee…..

  15. eddie eddie eddie on

    wicky – stepan is horrid this year…slow, indecisive, poor decision making, and a turnover machine…..his favorite play this year is to turn the puck over, allowing for an odd man rush, and watching the backs of the opposing jerseys skate away…

  16. The only one on NYR bench that looked like they cared last night was Ulf. He had his hand on his hips and this look of disgust mingled with disbelief on his face I won’t soon forget. AV was just chomping on his gum.

  17. Doodie Machetto on

    Holdout players tend to regress. That goes double when it’s a new coach/system and a lot of roster turnover.

  18. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    Brassard plays with a bit of an edge to his game, if you don’t pay attention to stuff in the corners, you will miss it most of the time. he was really working over zubrus last night a couple of times.

  19. Right. Seems he’s a popular personality in Canada, so RDS is probably in his future. When you agree to open up a million three in cap space, do you get a furtive cash-filled envelope under the table over lunch at the Russian Tea Room?

  20. Doodie Machetto on

    I think Pyatt is rosterable. He’s a good enough role player, if only we would use him as a role player.

  21. eddie eddie eddie on

    latona – by mid december, AV will need a new jaw…..he works that gum like a piston in an engine

  22. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    I also do not see pouliot as a problem at this point. Do I wish he had some goals by now, hell yes. He plays physical a lot and was far and away the most impact hitter in the game last night and it wasn’t even close. He had the devils so pissed at hm by the end of the game so even though he isn’t scoring (like everyone else) he was at least contributing.

  23. Wondering, with Biron officially retiring, do the Rangers recoup his full cap-hit like the Devils did with Kovulcuk?????

  24. I agree that Benoit Balls Pouliot and Pyatt are probably staying on this roster. Pouliot was at least banging bodies last night. Brassard does have some decent work in the corners but I’m going to withhold judgment on him until he gets Hagelin playing on his wing.

    Getting Hagelin back will help. Getting Callahan back will help and Getting Nash back should help at least until his next concussion. That’s all probably a little too late though.

    I agree with eddie. I normally don’t panic but this season has been bad on all fronts in all zone and in all emotional aspects of the game. It’s very, very worrisome.

    Guy Boucher!

  25. Thanx for the clarification, Doodie. Guess only if he had been claimed would they reap the total 1.3 mil cap hit.

  26. Doodie Machetto on

    375 is the correct number. I was shooting from the hip. And yes, upon assigning him to Hartford, they saved that money.

  27. Anyone notice that Timmy Thomas still doesn’t have any graphics on his helmet? He’s like Ben Bishop (who has been lights out this season).

  28. Ash is costing them 75 grand against the Cap. If they were to bring him up, does it become a mil again?

  29. With the obstructed views at the new MSG and Sather being a fool, I am considering not attending any games this year. Something is not right with this team and Sather has long over stayed his welcome.

  30. eddie eddie eddie on

    doodie – agreed on hank….tough to win when your down by 2 goals before all 4 lines have been on ice

  31. Carp and Co.: Serious question – Should we be scared with all this talk of how great the coaching staff thinks Cam Talbot can be? Is that some sort of posturing regarding negotiations with Hank or is the organization seriously considering making the switch to a rookie as our Starter and possibly trading Hank or letting him walk?

    I’m totally serious about asking this question.

  32. 3E Pyatt 7 games, 0 pts, -7

    MZA 7 games, 0 pts, -3

    MZA has more offensive upside than Pyatt. I’m thinking they should have put him up top with Richards, over Pyatt. But I guess his size, holds him back.

    That said I want Kristo or Kreider playing in his spot Wednesday.

    Fast needs to go through the process in the AHL, THE KREIDER has to be ahead of this guy, or we should trade him while he still has “mystery” value.

  33. eddie eddie eddie on

    ribbit, lindberg, kristo, kreider, mash, haley, and The Wrath should be up

    pyatt, boyle, mza, dom moore, powe, strahlman should go down

  34. Doodie Machetto on

    The real question is, do we go Ekblad or take a forward (Reinhart or Nylander being the subset there)

  35. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    the ranger forward lines are starting to look like their D men, vanilla.

    Mza, D Moops, and Fast need to go, and Mashinter, Kristo, and Haley (who wears an “A” in Htfd) need to be playing.

  36. Good afternoon all! Losing good Marty just makes me very sad. Heck of a stinky way to have a career ended. As for last night, just tremendously horrendous.

  37. Doodie Machetto on

    E3, I keep Boyler from that list, but otherwise agree. Leave Mashinter down to accommodate.

  38. eddie eddie eddie on

    voting republican is one thing (I’m a hard line left winger)…but voting with the Tea Bag Express is ludicrous.

  39. Have to agree w/ everyone’s general assessments. No passion, confidence, camaraderie or direction evident on the ice or on the bench and that includes the coaches. Maybe this is Dolan’s plan to turn everyone into a fan of the Knicks for a better return on his investment?

  40. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    I’d have mcilrath up here by now and stralman and mdz would be out of the line up.

  41. I don’t get how Haley can’t make this team. He has proven he can be more than a Clownish Goon at this point but we might actually need a clownish goon at times. He seems versatile and perfect.

  42. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    I’m certainly not with thomas politically, nor am I with eddie and the crew politically! I don’t vote party (pretty stupid way to go IMHO) I vote for the person, and the people haven’t been worth a $%(* the last couple of elections.

    They have all been horrible.

  43. Doodie, as much as we suck, I don’t think we’ll end up with one of the top three picks, so I’d be quite happy if we could draft Virtanen.

  44. eddie eddie eddie on

    kooz – you are funny….you had a stretch where you posted political rants daily…maybe you need to visit the huff-po

  45. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    What are the kreider trade rumours btw?

    I would have no problem trading him.

  46. ‘You mean, let me understand this … cuz I … maybe its me, maybe I’m a little f….. up maybe. I’m funny how? I mean funny, like I’m a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh? I’m here to f…… amuse you? Whattya you mean funny? Funny how? How am I funny?’ :))))))))

  47. Seriously though, can we get Mcllrath up here please. Bring up Mashinter too. Also bring back BICKEL!!!

  48. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    WPM

    0) Obama
    1) Clinton/Carter
    2) Pick’em

  49. eddie eddie eddie on

    better dead than red, right said fred, that instead, my bed, ride a sled, to thee i wed, ned and ted, street cred, zed is dead, whole wheat bread, post on a thread….

    boyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  50. I like that Carp gave #44 a minor shout out. Not ideal, but at LEAST brings a little bogart.

  51. Doodie, getting the first overall would be a good thing, and you know nothing ever goes well for us.

  52. eddie eddie eddie on

    wicky allow me to retort:

    WPM

    0 Bush II
    1 Bush II (yes he was that bad)
    2 Bush I
    3Reagan (the great communicator? A great joke)

  53. The key to getting this team back on track is a The Kreider – Stepan – Callahan (Kristo for now) line.

  54. Doodie Machetto on

    Latona, true. But no lower than 2nd, which means we still have one of the tree I named. Personally, I think Nylander is the clear third choice there.

  55. If we call up a bunch if kids we will essentially be the Edmonton Oilers with better goaltending.

  56. eddie eddie eddie on

    That is the way he lived. That is what he leaves us.

    My brother need not be idealized, or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life; to be remembered simply as a good and decent man, who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it.

    Those of us who loved him and who take him to his rest today, pray that what he was to us and what he wished for others will some day come to pass for all the world.

    As he said many times, in many parts of this nation, to those he touched and who sought to touch him:

    “Some men see things as they are and say why.
    I dream things that never were and say why not.”

  57. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    Eddie
    LMBAO, at least you have been consistently incorrect!!

    NO POLITICS!!!

  58. eddie eddie eddie on

    I realize that as an individual that we can’t just look back, that we must look forward. When I think of President Kennedy, I think of what Shakespeare said in Romeo and Juliet:

    When he shall die take him and cut him out into the stars and he shall make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will be in love with night and pay no worship to the garish sun.

    And I realize as an individual and really — I realize that as an individual even more importantly, for our political Party and for the country, that we can’t just look to the past, but we must look to the future.

  59. eddie eddie eddie on

    What great president, when speaking to a National Convention of Teachers said:

    “Is our children learning?”

  60. Reminds me of Truman Capote when a nasty drunk came up to him at a table in a Long Island restaurant, pulled out his scholong, and said ‘autograph THIS’ Capote replied, ‘I couldn’t possibly autograph that, but perhaps I can initial it.’

  61. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    There is not a single president, NOT ONE, who hasn’t made grammatical errors or geographical errors when in office, NOT ONE!!

    Just an FYI for all of you supposed political experts ;)

  62. eddie eddie eddie on

    ricardo – I have a picture of him when he was running for the NY Senate…it was a large gathering in Central Park…i was on my dad’s shoulders….about 3-4 feet away…..Do you remember the date that you got his autograph?

  63. eddie eddie eddie on

    wicky – how about this gem from the bumbling boob known as 43….. “fool me once shame on ummmmm me, fool me twice…ummmmm, i don’t like to be fooled”

  64. I was just a kid, 11 years old, I think … got his autograph during his campaign. But not long before LA.

    Wick, I remember Reagan asking Mario Lemieux who he was when the Pens visited the White House … “And you are?”

    I also remember at the all-star game in DC, Reagan hosted the players and Gordie Howe was playing. He was like 51 or 52. Reagan recognized him and said, “When I was a little boy, my mother used to take me by the hand to see you play.” Cracked everybody up.

  65. This Ekblad kid looks like an absolute GEM. Let’s tank the season.

    What rhymes with Ekblad?

  66. Gift of GAB-orik on

    The lack of urgency and competitive fire is what’s most disheartening to me.

    I watched a bunch of Rangers forwards glide around for most of last nights game. JT Miller was coasting quite a bit, Pyatt skates like he has a piano strapped to his back, Brassard didn’t seem interested in competing. Fast was at least trying to throw his body around, ditto for Pouliot.

    I’m upset with how most of this roster, in a time where they can capitalize on the varsity guys being out hurt, are playing like it’s a scrimmage.

  67. eddie eddie eddie on

    Reagan “if venus is in the 5th house, and capricorn is perched on Libra’s moon, and Jupiter rises with the minor poles of neptune……..”

  68. eddie eddie eddie on

    ricardo – that is an amazing autograph that you have….were your parents Kennedy peeps? Mine were…..Irish catholic and all……Bobby would have changed the world.

  69. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    not bad eddie, how about this one…Obuma fails to support 4 Americans who die in Benghazi (2 of which were navy Seals and one was the best friend of one of my friends) because he doesn’t want it to interfere with his “re-election” platform of AQ is on the run (wrong, stronger than ever due to his inept job as president, not to mention his lack of leadership ability in getting any kind of consistent domestic policy). I’m sure you are familiar with the event, so I will take the guy that screws up your 1:50 post any day over this current D-bag!!

  70. Gift of GAB-orik on

    i’m trying to be objective… but there weren’t much ‘stand out’ moments for me last night.

    Boyle did well in the faceoff circle, Pouliot seemed engaged. Fast isn’t scared to go into corners

  71. eddie eddie eddie on

    wicky – only after you consider that invading Iraq, a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, which killed thousands and injured hundreds of thousands, and spent trillions of national treasure was FAR WORSE.

  72. Gift of GAB-orik on

    Crazy stat i heard last night during the broadcast. The last time Brodeur was a healthy backup playing the Rangers was 1992.

    let that marinate for a bit.

  73. eddie eddie eddie on

    wicky – of course it’s all Obama’s fault. Republicans are bending over backwards trying to work with him to solve the nation’s problems.

    Long live the tea baggers.

  74. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    The sad part is Eddie, that you seem to be a “party” person. I would vote for a person regardless of their party. If obuma was a republican or a tea party member or a quebecois separatist, I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR THE BUM.

    You clearly seem to me to be a person that if stalin (no offence cccp) was a democrat, you would vote for him and that sort of blind party line voting is what is killing this nation!!

    I would have voted for Kennedy (FWIW) if he ran on the underwater basket weaving ticket (I wasn’t alive then so I am basing this on what I have read and heard. But like I said, I vote for the person, NOT the party.

  75. Gift of GAB-orik on

    Political opinions are like rectal openings. We all have them, and sometimes they spout crap.

    I don’t mean that as an insult to anyone here, I am merely saying that opinions should not be argued as fact, or set forth to others as fact, unless in fact, it is in fact, fact.

  76. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    Eddie
    Riiiiight, because deposing a dictator is a bad idea. Good thing we didn’t do that with Hitler.

    And don’t tell me it isn’t comparable, ask the majority of the Iraqi population. Or ask a Kurd.

  77. eddie eddie eddie on

    allright,,,,i have to go……fox news in on and i have go watch. The goal for me is to become unenlightened and brainwashed.

    peace out

    no hard feelings wick…we just see things differently…..I’m sorry for your friend’s loss :(

  78. Gift of GAB-orik on

    that was me attempting to diffuse political tension brewing, and turn the attention back to something republicans, democrats, and independants can all agree on…

    right now our Rangers stink!

  79. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    eddie
    just keep drink that party kool-aide

  80. eddie eddie eddie on

    wicky – you are laboring under many misconceptions on a variety of issues. But I wish you well and do feel for your loss. You know very little about me and how I think and vote…..But it seems that you drink from a different glass of koolaid than the one you ascribe to me….

  81. ‘Oh, I was so surprised and shocked, and I wondered too
    If by chance you heard it for yourself
    I never told a soul just how I’ve been feeling about you
    But they said it really loud
    They said it on the air
    On the radio whoa oh oh.’

  82. How’s the little wicksters doing? Haven’t gotten any photo updates in what seems like the last time the Rangers won a game :)

    Gab, see something I posted for you on your last FB comment.

  83. Having a major 80’s flashback moment now. Which is hard for someone who is only 26.

    Video killed the radio star.

  84. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    Mama
    just busy working and trying to keep our heads (not boneheads) above water under the watch of the worst president in the history of these United States, but other than that wishing the Rangers would be a little less soft and tougher to play against.

    I apologize re the lack of pics…will remedy shortly!

  85. Wicky, amen!
    I closed my business…slowly sinking like most Americans
    And watching the Rangers…slowly sink as well…lol

  86. Richie: “We weren’t outplayed.” He’s right, in an odd way. Derbls were almost as bad.

  87. Staal, really?? I’m so sorry to hear that….

    thanks Wick!!!

    Now, I don’t want to wicky, but I really do have to run….later Staal and all!!!

  88. Jeez, Staal. So sorry to hear that. I’m sure you will rise again, stronger, like a phoenix from the ashes, etc…

  89. Wicky©No one screens the goalie, no one gets to rebounds!!! on

    staal
    sorry to hear that bro, condolences!

  90. A day after yet another humiliating loss in this new season, and everyone is talking about the AHL goaltender.

  91. Rob in Beantown on

    My parents named me after RFK. Was born well after he was killed but I always admired him.

    NO POLITICS

  92. Rob in Beantown on

    Do people really think Cam Talbot can be a legit number one? Hockeysfuture thinks he has journeyman written all over him if he even makes it

  93. With the talent level on this team, both with the big club and what’s in Hartford – Is it time to say that these Rangers hit their high water mark two years ago in the Eastern Conference Finals?

    I just don’t see a whole lot of reasons to be optimistic that we can challenge the better teams in the league. ESPECIALLY if we find out Hank can’t bail the team out unless they’re playing defense-first hockey.

    I know Cally and Hagelin being out sucks…but I think the Nash trade might have been Sather’s biggest mistake. We got a “superstar” apparently prone to injury and one with a rather low self-expectation level when it comes to playoff hockey.

    This team hasn’t shown much in the way of heart so far this year. And I don’t know if that’s the problem with a soft coach or a soft system or a soft team-wide mentality outside of Callahan.

    Just not a happy time to be a Rangers fan…

  94. That was my actual question that no one answered, Rob. I think the organization is posturing like they think Talbot can be a number one and I’m hoping that’s just a posturing thing against Hank and his demands for denim.

  95. Rob in Beantown on

    I know, Manny. If Cam Talbot actually gets the nod it would be confirmation that we are in the middle of a serious rebuild

  96. I don’t think the talent level is all that bad … other than the top offensive guys. Still have six or seven guys who make up a pretty legit D group. Gotta figure that the goalie is going to return to his elite ways soon. In Nash, Callahan, Stepan and if Richards continues his resurrection, that’s four decent top-six guys. Obviously need at least one more of those. If those four are playing well, then the bottom six is perfectly acceptable, though soft.

    and though you guys tend to toss the “bust” label on young guys pretty quickly — maybe because of the history of the organization — I don’t necessarily agree that the cupboard is bare.

  97. Well said, Carp.

    The cupboard may not be bare, but has what’s in it been oversold? We think it’s filled with Oreos and Fudge Stripes but what if instead it’s just Hydrox and generic brand animal crackers..

    I was just at the supermarket, so I got all those on my mind. :-)

  98. Is there a reason the Rangers didn’t announce that Powe was being sent back and we had to find that out from the AHL?

  99. That happens a lot, Manny. The AHL puts up transactions right away on their web site. Rangers announce it at their leisure. No practice today, so it’s not considered that critical, I guess.

  100. Thanks, Carp. ;-)

    Speaking of Brodeur, the only smile I had last night was my cousin sending me a pic of himself at the game. He was right near Brodeur wearing a Callahan jersey and promptly gave ol’ Uncle Daddy the bird…

    Tasteless, maybe. But when your team is getting embarrassed AGAIN, you gotta take out the frustrations somewhere. LOL

  101. Thanks, Carp. Just trying to be overly sleuth I guess and assume it’s because of some larger transaction.

  102. If you want to be sleuth … keep an eye on the American Hockey League web site. Under rosters there’s a drop-down: Transactions. Check it periodically and you might get the scoop on who’s called up.

  103. did anyone notice difference in coaching?:

    Torts kept Richards in the same line for months until towards the end of the season

    AV put Biron on waivers after one full game and some relief work in big losses out west

    commonality: Glen Sather

  104. That sounds like a lot of effort, Carp. I mean, why do I hang out here all day if I’m going to go and do my own research?

  105. But this page is really amazing and WOW do they update quickly. So thanks. Sorry for the sarcasm. (S)

  106. Carp ,do you think AV lost the team with how he handled west coast stretch or too early to tell?

    maybe he just has different style of coaching, not fire-y to motivate, more passive/aggressive. did not watch enough Canucks games when he coached them to really know.

  107. Speaking of effort, are you judging the contest? If not, I can do it. Should be really easy. Especially since eric claims he won. Doubt there were many 4-0 Devils picks.

  108. way too early to tell, especially with the legit travel/injury excuses and bad goaltending.

    I still wonder, and have wondered, if his style of play fits his personnel. We’ll see. I think that will be the main thing here. They MUST be able to defend with their lack of scoring. But AV’s a good, smart coach. He didn’t become an idiot over the summer, and he didn’t leave his brain at customs.

  109. The problem is that eric entered twice. But you would have to check the IP addresses on that because he did also guess this later:

    Eric
    Devils 3 rangers 0 gwg Ryder. Ranger shots 22 devils 29.

    October 19th, 2013 at 1:55 PM

  110. I have always felt that if the Rangers lose the contest shouldn’t count because anyone who picks against this team doesn’t deserve to win! But you know……

    That second eric was close and Bull Dog had 2-0. Doodie had 3-1 Devils and he had the GWG correct.

  111. One of the first rules is you must have the exact score.

    Remember the time you booed every time somebody picked against the Rangers (in the playoffs, I think)?

  112. I most certainly did that. I also just *e-mailed* you for the sake of PRIVACY or whatever. As your attorney I recommend you make such contest decisions in private….

  113. AV must have been doing something right to be in Vancover for 7 years, I think. Sedins still scoring with torts, so just trying to figure it out, there is something going on when previous stars having such bad starts to their seasons.

  114. Unique take there, Monousa. But it sounds like you might have an axe to grind. Because last I checked, during the Tortorella era they added Gaborik, Richards and Nash. So kinda tough to say they never gained on the skill side.

    and not sure at all where you are getting the idea that Schoenfeld’s fingerprints are on anything.

    plus, you kind of have to, you know, compete for the Cup before you win it. And Sather hasn’t won one since 1990.

  115. Gift of GAB-orik on

    As Carp mentioned earlier… at least the rest of the division other than the Penguins are stinkin’ up the joint too.

  116. Powe was sent down? what are they ever going to do without his PK ability, and responsible defending?

  117. Rob in Beantown on

    Rmn Hmrlk is retiring too

    Roman Jedlicka @jedli
    Roman Hamrlik calls it a career. He will officially say it at the press conference in Montreal next week.

  118. right now, just when I needed a boost, my jets beat bellicheat and the pats. Thank You Jets. At least for another week I have something to look forward to even though I know the jets aren’t going anywhere but for right now, it will do.

  119. somebody mentioned before about the Rangers liking Talbot, and maybe sending a message to Hank. I think I sort of agree. it would not surprise me if Talbot starts the next game.

  120. Rob in Beantown on

    If Talbot starts the next game the Rangers are potentially throwing away a winnable game against Philadelphia and for what? To send Hank a message? They NEED him to play well if this isn’t going to be a lost season. He should play his way out of the slump

  121. bull dog, I had the devils winning 3-1 which is a tie with you if you want to go there, so did eric, so you weren’t the only one who had the devils winning, sorry bro.

  122. Nylander’s kid is projected as the #2 pick.

    2. William Nylander, Sodertalje U20, 6-0 170, C/RW, 1996-05-01
    Michael’s son tearing up the SuperElit with 43 pts in 27 games. Elite hockey player.

  123. Rob in Beantown on

    Not saying Talbot can’t beat Philly. But if the Rangers lose to the Phlyers with Talbot in net…….

  124. the way they are playing nobody should be exempt from benching. the little I have heard from AV, he tends to give clues as to what he is about to do. AV went to see Talbot play the other night, and said he really liked the way he played.

  125. carp, is there a slight chance the rangers give Talbot a shot, he plays well and the rangers decide to trade lundqvist?

  126. I had a feeling early this season was going to be a mess, and I’m not blaming Alain too. Guy got handed a terrible situation. Torts got released right after his bad choices really start affecting the team.

  127. tommy, I don’t see that happening. Maybe I’m naive. Again, this team will never tank. I think trading Lundqvist is tanking, unless you’re getting back a Tavares type of player.

    If you can get a Tavares type, and you think Talbot can be a good, even if not great, NHL goalie, then you’ve probably improved your team.

    On the other hand, I don’t see a team trading a franchise player for a goalie.

  128. Stranger Nation on

    Kreider, Mashinter, Talbot recalled; Powe & Missiaen head to Hartford;

    FRESH POST???

  129. Does this mean Kreider is here to stay? Because nothing he does could be worse than Pyatt on the 1st line.

    Great to see Monster Mash recalled in time for Halloween

  130. Ok Carp, I understand what your saying but what if the rangers brass feels they can’t extend lundqvist during the season, do you think sather will look to trade lundqvist at the trading deadline, especially if the rangers look to be out of playoff picture?

  131. yes, tommy, in theory. … but they won’t be out of the playoff picture at the deadline. If they’re sure they won’t re-sign him, they would still only trade him for a big return, I think.

  132. Rob in Beantown on

    Two players were sent down (Powe and the goalie whose name I can’t spell) and three were brought up (Talbot, Kreider, Mashinter). Am I forgetting somebody? How is that possible?

  133. the rangers would be fools not to call up a young promising scorer and a hard working player who can fight when needed. That’s what they are lacking. I’ve said it before and will say it all season. sather won’t sit back, he will try whatever it takes to get the rangers going.

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