Rangers at Capitals tonight (8 p.m.) … pre-game notes

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Oh, good. An NBC Sports exclusive and another late start.

Courtesy of the NYR:

NEW YORK RANGERS at WASHINGTON CAPITALS
Wednesday, Oct. 16, 8:00 p.m. ET
Verizon Center – Washington, DC
Rangers: 1-4-0 (2 pts)
Capitals: 2-4-0 (4 pts) 

TONIGHT’S GAME: The Rangers will face-off against the Washington Capitals at Verizon Center (8:00 p.m. — TV: NBCSN; Radio: ESPN 98.7), in their first of three straight divisional matchups. The Blueshirts enter the contest having been defeated by the Blues, 5-3, on Saturday at St. Louis, and are now 1-4-0 (2 pts) this season. The Capitals enter the contest with a 2-4-0 (4 pts) record, following a 4-2 win on Monday against Edmonton. Following the contest, the Rangers will return to action when they face-off against the New Jersey Devils on Saturday, Oct. 19, at Prudential Center (7:00 p.m.), as they continue their season-opening nine game road trip.

RANGERS vs. CAPITALS:
All-Time: 87-86-18-6 overall (48-38-9-3 at home; 39-48-9-3 on the road)
2013-14: Tonight is the first of four meetings this season, and the first of two meetings at Verizon Center.
Last Season: New York was 2-0-1 overall (1-0-1 at home; 1-0-0 on the road). Two of the three contests were decided by one goal, including one game that required the shootout. The Rangers out-scored the Capitals, 5-0, after the first period, and out-shot Washington, 102-81, in the series. The Blueshirts’ power play was 3-9 (33.3%), while their penalty kill was 9-10 (90.0%). Derek Stepan led all skaters with three goals, while Ryan McDonagh and Rick Nash tied for the series-high with three assists apiece. Carl Hagelin (one goal, two assists) and Brad Richards (one goal, two assists) also tallied three points in the series. Henrik Lundqvist was 1-0-1 with a 1.44 GAA and .942 Sv%, and Martin Biron was 1-0-0 with a 1.00 GAA and .966 Sv%.
The Blueshirts are 4-1-0 in their last five games at Washington, having out-scored the Capitals, 19-9, over the span
The Rangers have registered a point in eight of their last 10 meetings with the Capitals, dating back to a 7-0 win on Dec. 12, 2010. New York has posted a 7-2-1 record and has out-scored Washington, 34-19, during the stretch.
New York is 1-4-0 on the road; Washington is 2-2-0 at home
New York is 0-0-0 vs. divisional opponents; Washington is 0-1-0 vs. divisional opponents

INDIVIDUAL CAREER LEADERS vs. CAPITALS: Henrik Lundqvist – 24 GP, 14-7-3, 2.66 GAA, 3 SO; Brad Richards – 53 GP, 9-29-38; Ryan Callahan – 21 GP, 9-7-16; Rick Nash – 12 GP, 7-8-15; Marc Staal – 18 GP, 1-6-7

SPECIAL TEAMS:
Power Play: The Rangers were 2-5 (7:03) on Saturday at St. Louis. New York ranks 10th in the NHL overall (4-17, 23.5%), and ninth on the road (4-17, 23.5%). The Rangers are 2-2 (0:48) in five-on-three situations (last – 10/12 at STL), and 0-1 (0:30) when four-on-three (last – 10/12 at STL). Shorthanded goals allowed (1): 10/8 at SJS (Vlasic).
Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts were 4-6 (5:27) on Saturday at St. Louis. New York ranks 22nd in the NHL overall (15-20, 75.0%), and are tied for 16th on the road (15-20, 75.0%). The Rangers are 1-1 (1:04) in three-on-five situations (last – 10/10 at ANA), and 0-0 (0:00) when three-on-four. Shorthanded goals for (1): 10/7 at LAK (McDonagh).
Four-on-Four: New York yielded one goal in two four-on-four situations (3:05) on Saturday at St. Louis, and are now -3 in four four-on-four situations (7:05) this season. Four-on-four goals for (0). Four-on-four goals allowed (3): 10/3 at PHX (Vrbata); 10/7 at LAK (Muzzin); 10/12 at STL (Backes).

GETTING STARTED: The Rangers have posted a record of 286-277-94 all-time in the month of October, including a 177-118-49 mark at home and a 109-159-45 record on the road. New York (1-4-0) is scheduled to play 12 games during the season’s opening month in 2013-14.
Legendary Rangers’ defenseman Brian Leetch holds the franchise record for most points in the month of October, having registered 43 goals and 130 assists for 173 career points in the season’s opening month.
The Blueshirts’ all-time leader for most career wins in the month of October is Mike Richter, who registered 40 career wins during the season’s opening month. Henrik Lundqvist has recorded 36 career wins during the month of October.
New York has posted two, seven-game winning streaks in the month of October, winning seven consecutive games during the season’s opening month in 2009-10 (Oct. 3 vs. Ottawa to Oct. 17 at Toronto) and 1988-89 (Oct. 16 vs. Vancouver to Oct. 30 vs. Pittsburgh).

ROAD WARRIORS: The Rangers are in the midst of a nine-game road trip to begin their 2013-14 regular season campaign. The trip will establish a franchise record for longest road trip to start the season, breaking the old record of seven games set in 2011-12. It will also tie the franchise mark for longest road trip overall, established during the 1955-56 season. The Blueshirts are slated to open their home schedule on Oct. 28 against Montreal, their latest home opener in a non-lockout shortened season since the 1947-48 season (Oct. 29).

NEW (AND FAMILIAR) FACES: Benoit Pouliot and Jesper Fast (NHL debut) made their Rangers debut in the season opener on Oct. 3 at Phoenix, while Justin Falk made his Rangers debut on Oct. 12 at St. Louis. In addition, Dominic Moore returned to the Rangers lineup after skating with the Blueshirts from 2003-04 to 2005-06, and Derek Dorsett made his regular season debut after skating in 11 playoff contests with the Rangers last season.

COUNTDOWN TO 6K: The Rangers have played in 5,947 regular season games throughout the franchise’s 88 seasons, just 53 games shy of 6,000 all-time. The Blueshirts are scheduled to play their 6,000th game all-time on February 6 against the Edmonton Oilers at Madison Square Garden.

FINISHING THE JOB: The Blueshirts have registered a point in 93 consecutive regular season games when leading after the second period, dating back to the 2009-10 season, posting a record of 87-0-6 over the span. The Rangers’ last regulation loss in a game when entering the third with the lead was Feb. 4, 2010 (6-5 loss vs. WSH). New York posted a 16-0-0 record when leading after the second period last season.

BACK-TO-BACKS: The Rangers split their first of 13 back-to-back sets this season, with a 3-1 win on Oct. 7 at Los Angeles and a 9-2 loss on Oct. 8 at San Jose. New York posted a combined record of 7-4-1 in back-to-back games last season, including a 4-1-1 (3-0-0 at home; 1-1-1 on the road) record in the first game and a 3-3-0 (0-2-0 at home; 3-1-0 on the road) mark in the second. Henrik Lundqvist has started on consecutive days 66 times in his career, posting a record of 41-18-7 with a 2.03 GAA, .931 Sv% and six shutouts in the second game.

THE HOT LIST:
Brad Richards – five points (four goals, one assist) in the last four games
Derek Stepan – five assists in the last five games
Derick Brassard – three assists in the last three games

THE KING’S REIGN: Henrik Lundqvist is one of four active NHL goalies to reach the 20-win mark in eight consecutive seasons (Brodeur, 12; Luongo, 9; Vokoun, 9), and is the only goaltender with an active streak of eight straight 20-win seasons
Was a Vezina Trophy finalist last season, the fifth time in his eight-year career he has been voted a finalist for the award which he won in 2012
Finished last season tied for the league lead with 24 wins, becoming the first Rangers goaltender to lead the league in wins since Mike Richter in 1993-94 (42)
Passed Ed Giacomin as the franchise leader in career total shutouts (regular season + playoffs) with a 20-save shutout in last season’s finale against New Jersey, the 51st total shutout of his career
The Blueshirts’ netminder has captured Rangers’ MVP honors for a franchise record, seven consecutive years. His seven Rangers’ MVP awards are also a franchise record, passing Brian Leetch (six) for the most in franchise history.

MILESTONES IN SIGHT: Marc Staal – 2 points from 100th NHL career

INJURIES: Carl Hagelin (IR – 9/30; shoulder, out indefinitely) – 5; Rick Nash (IR – 10/14; head injury – 10/8, out indefinitely) – 2
Total Man-Games Lost: 8

RECENT TRANSACTIONS:
Oct. 15 – Recalled forward J.T. Miller and goaltender Cam Talbot from Hartford (AHL)
Oct. 15 – Assigned forward Arron Asham and goaltender Martin Biron to Hartford (AHL)

Photo by G. Fiume/Getty Images.

 

 

 

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  1. We lose again... on

    I agree with the team toughness versus “resident goon” requests. The problem is that it is not easy to find players with skill and toughness – i.e., the ability to take a hit to make a play and throw a check that the opposing player will actually feel. We just do not seem to have those players on this edition of the NYR and it doesn’t seem there are very many in the system. Perhaps Kreider and Miller will fit the bill, but it’s too early to tell. If McIlrath can develop his game, he would fill a gaping hole on D. I’m sure we would all love to see the team filled Messier and Graves types, instead we have soft, softer and softest. Where is the tough checking center? I guess that’s Boyle, but sheesh… He cannot defend himself in a fight. I hope the Boys don’t get embarrassed by OV tonight!

    Which Lundqvist will we see? A bad season will cost Hank money and years!

  2. Game day, finally. This will be the best test of the young season. There is a real rivalry between these two teams and they bring out the best in each other. Hope we show up.

    LGR!!!

  3. I dunno…I don’t see Ovi going down the tubes, but it did take some time last year, before starting to light it up toward the end of the season. Our defense pairs have sometimes looked lost out there so far. Waiting for them to get their act together.

  4. I didn’t like the Pappy release when he was playing for league minimum for the Asslanders but $4m a year? Really? Just ’cause he’s popped a couple of goals in and is riding the coat-tails of more talented forwards (again)?

  5. Hey Carp, if the Rangers lose tonight, will the excuse of training camp being on the road, 4 in 5 nights pre-season games and then 5 games out west, be used by someone on NBC Sports? Especially light-bulb head?

  6. Stranger Nation on

    Team Toughness – we were thought to have our toughness team two years ago, yet we had Richards, Hags, Gabby, Erica, Woofski in the top 6. Besides Dubi who was demoted that year and Arti, was not the embodiment of playable toughness, who else in the Top 6 up front or Top 4 in the back are we referring to????

  7. Stranger Nation on

    WAtching the Sharks take a bit out of everyone they play lessens the sting a little bit.
    We need to win two out of the next four to come out of this Disaster of a road trip with some positive mo.
    We play the Ducks in a couple of weeks (11/4) so that game may be a better gauge on how far we have come with “AV’s system”

  8. people on AG’s page try to tell me how good off we are without Dubinsky….

    I don’t even waste a breath.

  9. I wanted Lapierre in the offseason but now I’m glad I didn’t get what I wanted so THANK YOU GLEN!!!

  10. I miss that time Rupp scored twice in the Winter Classic and did the Jagr Salute. Remember Hartnell: “He did the Jags Salute!? He did it!”

  11. You were in on that, The Doctor? I know Wicky and I complained about it a lot in our private place. Nice to have you on board.

    Don’t be so quick to hop off! We could still use a guy like LaPierre.

  12. “I do it because I was celebrating goals, maybe he does it too. Maybe he’s celebrating it like that, I don’t know. He doesn’t score many goals. That’s not against him, I didn’t see it, maybe that’s the way he celebrates.”

    Gotta love Jagr, lol

  13. Best line of 24/7 comes from Brad Richards when Sestito was taunting the Rangers bench and Brad Richards yelled, “Fantasy camp for you. This is fantasy camp.”

  14. _You were in on that, The Doctor? I know Wicky and I complained about it a lot in our private place. Nice to have you on board._

    I have a young player fetish and he fit a nice 4th line toughness role. But I’m completely off board now; hate players who play like that. Maybe he always has and I didn’t watch enough, but I thought he was more Prust and less Rinaldo.

  15. Totally understand. I just don’t remember LaPierre doing that before and I thought Dan Boyle was slipping a little bit when he got hit. I thought it was mostly just a hockey play gone wrong or whatever.

    But I know exactly what you mean. I flip out when people suggest that the Rangers pick up Raffi Torres. FLIP OUT.

  16. Its a hockey play that went wrong because Lapierre took a dangerous, unnecessary hit. Best case there was 2:00 for boarding, worst case (or close to it) was last night. Eventually guys are going to learn the difference between “can take the body” and “should take the body”. Just not worth it for anyone in that situation.

  17. Right now, toughness isn’t the problem. It may be down the road, but them being outscored 25-9 is the problem.

  18. I’m curious to see if you can find a way, short of Boyle doing an instant 180 pirouette, that it becomes legal.

    (Off topic, but I’m doing an amazing job of conditioning my 2 year old. Sesame Street is on but she’s asking “Where hockey? Where hockey?” over and over so I put her jersey (sweater) on. Kids are the best.)

  19. Ok. So I watched it a few hundred times. I definitely am not putting 100% of the blame on LaPierre. Boyle is bent over and turning at the time. But, he did release the puck and LaPierre finished his check, main point of contact being the head, into the boards. LaPierre definitely didn’t need to finish that check but you can’t blame him for doing so. It’s moving pretty fast. Unfortunately he hits Boyle in the head and Boyle just gets destroyed against the glass.

  20. But Boyle is bent over making a hockey play, not ducking the hit. He’s naturally low and Lapierre comes in high.

  21. Its Lapierre’s second suspension for checking from behind and if you assume it takes three “he’s not that type of player”s to become the type of player to get an initial suspension, you can assume he’s at 5+.

  22. It looked like there was follow through to push head against the boards. But, it’s hard to know if there’s enough time for him to recognize the vulnerability and hold up.

    Either way, they’re going to have to start officiating it like football does, where anything close just gets called. That’s about the only way to make the checkers first instinct to hold up a bit.

  23. Right, you get penalized enough for “just playing the way I was taught to play”, you’ll learn a new way to play.

  24. On another note. I see those islanders are tearing it up with all those great young players on there team (S).

  25. I kind of look at it like this: It’s LaPierre’s job to finish that check. That’s why he’s on a “checking line”. So he finishes his check, which is normally fine. Unfortunately, Boyle is all bent over and LaPierre is coming in high. It’s the height of his angle that makes the hit scary. But, LaPierre is 6’2 and Boyle is 5’11” so any hit that LaPierre delivers to a smaller player is going to look like he’s coming in high. People are going to get hurt in hockey. That’s the nature of the sport. So in this case, Boyle got hurt. I am not blaming LaPierre or thinking that he did anything wrong here.

  26. But what’s lost in the tradeoff, Manny? You’re looking to avoid serious concussions (and possibly worse) and you’re giving back non-play-related finishes on the boards. This should be easy to wipe out. And if you wipe out Lapierre types in the process, so be it. He’s not why any of us are watching.

  27. (And none of this is to say I don’t think there’s plenty of gray area along the boards in the current game. There are guys who turn away and there are seemingly innocuous hits that lead to bad results. This just doesn’t fit.)

  28. (Another way: Freeze this play one stride before contact and ask a hockey fan if its going to end well.)

  29. All valid points, The Doctor. I’m just telling you what I see in that situation given the current state of hockey.

    I’m not one of the guys that wants to take the violence out of the game. I like hockey the way it is (minus the staged fights). I think that if the league actually cares about player safety they should keep the game consistent, reduce the amount of padding players wear on their shoulders and torso, improve helmet technology and improve concussion and brain research.

    Going forward, for the NHL, if they actually want to try and eliminate these type of hits along the board, I don’t see a way where they don’t just end up suspending based on the resulting injury or vice versa. It’s all grey area and it’s going to be completely arbitrary who gets penalized. I also don’t like that the players differences in size really affects the outcome of the play. I just don’t see how you regulate it effectively.

  30. I agree, The Doctor, it does not look like it’s going to end well but I think at least 40% of that is on Dan Boyle, who knows LaPierre is bearing down on him, and still bends over and hugs the boards.

  31. It’s not Gravy. It will be their 5th home game. The Caps were more fortunate than the Rangers and played their second home game (Oct. 3rd) at that weird, red place they call the Verizon Center!

  32. Stranger Nation on

    But, he did release the puck and LaPierre finished his check, main point of contact being the head, into the boards.
    =====================
    You are missing one critical point, he hit him from behind. It is boarding and charging, not finishing your check when you are planting your forearms into his back.

  33. I don’t think I’m that far off from you, I just want to see the things that subtract far more than they add phased out. The biggest issue I see is that they currently do seem to penalize on result, not process/intent, and that’s a problem. It becomes a cost/reward thing where you can take a cheapie run at a guy and if he bounces back, you’re safe. If they start penalizing the hit, whether Boyle was unconscious on the ice or jumping Lapierre from behind a second later, you’ll see change. And there has to be change. A guy being paralyzed is going to be way too late.

  34. Stranger Nation on

    Bigger beef with ‘high’ sticking calls when the player is bent over at waist level.
    Blues player had ample time to let up, was three strides away when Boyle redirected puck.
    Unnecessary and unfortunate

  35. Good point, Stranger. Now I have something else to think about…

    He does hit him from behind but I don’t see another way to separate a player from the puck in the corner. But you’re right. It is a hit from behind. Really unfortunate result.

  36. This is why I keep saying that the NHL Player Safety [garbage] committee needs to be a panel including an ex NHL player, a lawyer and some NHL official. They need to balance the interests of all parties and make CASE LAW so that there is a precedent to look at. Not just some video of Will Arnett using fancy graphics and talking like a Canadian John Wayne.

  37. Manny should we put the STOP sign on the back of the Jersey’s for LePierre. Just incase he doesn’t notice it’s from behind.

    They learn this in squirts.

    He should sit for as long as Boyle is out.

    I doubt I get anymore points out of Boyle this week :(

  38. _i think this is the Caps’ fifth home game, Gravy._

    Are the Caps renovating every other team’s arenas?

  39. Manny, I want a doctor on that committee. Former team doctor or something so he has sports knowledge and respect, but you can’t have a former wing determining best medical practices for hundreds of humans.

  40. Stranger Nation on

    Like Papa Bear’s idea of team forced to dress one less player for length of games missed by injury with no more than say 10 games.

    Don’t like Papa Bear’s porridge – too hot!

  41. Manny this is my first year in fantasy hockey. Thanks for putting it together. I’ve never looked at players from a fantasy point of view. Ranking players from 1 to 1500.

    Scary when you look at players after the 1’st week.

    #1 – Ovechkin
    #52 Grabovski
    #54 Backstrom
    #143 Mike Green

    Here’s what’s scary to see from a Ranger fan point of view.

    #1573 – Girardi
    #1571 – Fast
    #1570 – Del Zotto
    #1560 – Pyatt
    #1560 – McDonagh
    #1552 – Staal
    #1544 – John Moore
    #1542 – Dominic Moore

    I’m sure it because they haven’t scored any points, and their +/- is in the toilet.

    Our top player:

    #116 Richie Rich

  42. Rob in Beantown on

    I want a rabbi, a priest, and a rotating clergy of some other denomination on the committee too

  43. are we losing yet. if it wasnt for the game 7 win last year we could call the verizon center the house of horrors for the rangers outside of the bell centre in montreal.

  44. Stranger Nation on

    BTW – how did Lucky Pierre get bloodied after? Of course, they didn’t who that.

    I did notice that EVERY shark on the ice dropped their gloves with a desire to avenge this cowardly act.

  45. Stranger Nation on

    Rob – no politician? There needs to be some local or regional politico to protect the community

  46. FIVE REASONS RANGERS FANS SHOULDNT PANIC FROM USA TODAY KEVIN ALLAN

    The New York Rangers have not opened the season they way they hoped after firing John Tortorella and hiring offensively minded former Vancouver Canucks coach Alain Vigneault.

    The Rangers, 1-4-0 and outscored 25-9 for the league’s worst goal differential, certainly haven’t looked like the team that has made the playoffs in three of the last four seasons.

    NYR practice today is only their second since they beat LA exactly one week ago. Played 3 games during that time. Team needs practice time.
    12:46 PM – 14 Oct 2013

    Concern: Good teams overcome and win on the road.

    Brad Richards is playing well

    The 2004 Conn Smythe winner had a miserable season after the lockout, prompting discussion that he’d be bought out. With four goals on 22 shots and an assist already, he is one of the few bright spots.

    He looks much more confident and he’s in better shape. With the team’s center depth, Richards has been moved to the wing on the first line to keep him in the top six.

    Concern: How he responds to a slump and the chatter that follows.

    Vigneault, Henrik Lundqvist are better than this

    Clearly, neither person (among many) has had a good start.

    Vigneault is a smart, successful coach; he went 313-170-57 with the Canucks, winning the division six out of seven seasons and getting within one game of a Stanley Cup.

    Lundqvist has allowed 16 goals for a 4.21 goals-against average and .887 save percentage. Have you ever seen him make a decision like this?

    But this is still one of the best goalies in the world; he has a career 2.27 goals-against average and .920 save percentage.

    Both Vigneault and Lundqvist will figure it out.

    Concern: Rangers don’t have the personnel for Vigneault’s system and Lundqvist can’t bail them out enough.

    It’s only five games

    Five games equals 6% of the season. The Rangers also haven’t played a single team from their conference. There is such a small sample size here it’s impossible to draw legitimate conclusions.

    Concern: The Rangers have not done anything right, so who’s to say these problems don’t linger?

    They’ll try to turn the tide tonight (8 ET) at the 2-4-0 Washington Capitals.

    Here is why you shouldn’t overreact to the Rangers’ results two weeks into the season:

    They’ve had missing pieces

    Derek Stepan missed basically all of camp because of a contract dispute, so he has been learning Vigneault’s system and playing on the fly. Because of offseason shoulder surgeries for captain Ryan Callahan (returned in Game 2) and Carl Hagelin (out until at least Oct. 29), plus Rick Nash’s concussion (early in Game 3), New York has spent nearly four-fifths of its season without two key top-six forwards. Injuries should never be an excuse – especially the way the Rangers have lost – but it has put the team behind the eight ball early.

    Concern: Nash’s concussion history.

    This road trip eventually will end

    The Rangers have not played a single preseason or regular-season game at home and won’t make their home debut until Oct. 28, their 10th game. The team left for a Banff, Alberta, training camp trip on Sept. 18 before a Western Canadian preseason swing, went home briefly, played all five regular-season games out west and returned to the East Coast on Oct. 13. Twenty-one of 25 days on the road. There isn’t a worse way to start the season.

  47. I just really don’t think that LaPierre did anything wrong. I think it’s a different situation because they’re in the corner.

  48. Good call, The Doctor. A Doctor would be a great addition. Let’s go Player (NHLPA), Doctor and NHL Rep all overseen by an Attorney or Former Judge.

  49. I thought the hit was unnecessary. He had time to move his body enough and hit the glass. These guts do it all te time.

    Enough with the head hunting.

  50. Sioux – I am TERRIBLE at Fantasy. I’m only good at organizing leagues in which I finish in last place.

  51. Manny, I am not in favor of a lawyer being anywhere in the decision making process. Advisory? Ok. Decision making? Absolutely not. Let hockey people decide.

  52. I don’t suggest the Lawyer should be involved *in* the decision making process. A Lawyer should oversee and facilitate the process and be there to make sure that the decisions are consistent.

  53. eric – I agree. we didn’t match up well against the Bestern conference teams, lets see how we do against the Leastern ones.

  54. ilb – oh no, we’ll never score without him in the lineup!

    Miller will get 2 tonight, just you watch! 4-2 Rangers (Miller 2, Staal, Boyler)

  55. Eric , I thoroughly enjoy your posts.
    Kevin Allen surely has not thoughtfully evaluated this roster. My question to him:
    Even if the end with a .500 record and make the playoffs (because their division plain sucks) where are they going? Is this an elite team?
    So, then, what’s the point?

  56. I was just shocked to see that many Rangers on the bottom.

    Crazy Stats.

    I’m sure it will come around, if not play the youth!!!

  57. My point about a Lawyer or Judge being involved in the process to oversee and facilitate and possibly codify what the panel decides into an actual *decision* is that we have proven in this country that Case Law actually makes sense and you can relate a decision you’re making today to a precedent set in 1860. Sure, it’s slow, but it’s consistent and predictable, two things that the NHL Player Safety garbage is not. When we see a hit we have NO IDEA how the wheel of justice will spin. Therefore, I think the process should be organized much more like a Court of Law in that the decisions hold power down the road.

  58. leetchhalloffame on

    Matty – please give us a few months off from that annoying homer John Less-Than-Sterling

  59. Manny, I think they should also include a mathematician and a banker on that panel. The former would help them count how many games a player should be suspended for, and the latter would give them a clear idea how much money will be lost by a player, counting the current investment rate, inflation etc.

  60. Sioux – he will score. He has more confidence than the rest after his little stint dominating at Hartford plus it looks like he will get some PP1 time and to be fair our powerplay has been converting of late

  61. With a 1am start for me – I reckon i’ll be watching this delayed over a bowl of porridge tomorrow morning!

  62. Lapierre needs to be out of the league. Some of the blame for that hit goes to Boyle, but after what Lapierre did to Nichol a few years ago and some of the other crap he’s pulled, he needs to be kicked out of the league. He’s a total scumbag.

    As for tonight. We’ll see a ton of goals and absolutely no defense. 7-6 Caps.

  63. matty

    at least someone on here appreciates my wisdom lol. i will be at the rock sat night. want to get there when team bus arrives. someone on here bail me out

  64. the ken dryden i mean braden holtby show tonight. avg against rest of the league a star vs the rangers

  65. Hopefully with more traffic in front of the net Holtby will look more like Holtby this time, not Dryden

  66. carp

    can you make sure we get post game audio tonight with no msg postgame. i want to hear vigneault explanation for not benching dorsett after another careless offensive zone penalty leading to caps pp goal

  67. Stranger Nation on

    Justin Falk skated in El Zotto’s spot on the third defense pairing with John Moore during practice Tuesday. Falk made his Rangers debut in Saturday’s 5-3 road loss to the St. Louis Blues, playing 5:18 with one shot on goal and two minor penalties.

    Falk nearly spent as much time in sin bin as ice. Liked that he was willing to bang bodies. Do we just throw out Blues game penalties given adysmal reffing for both squads?

  68. Excited for tonight – not setting expectations but glad to watch them play. With Nash and MDZ out, maybe they come out a little hungrier than normal finally recognizing that they can’t take a second for granted.

    Someone up top said that Hank and AV are better than this – agreed. The great teams take a rough start and use it as fire – the poor ones accept their fate. I believe we are more the former than latter but time will tell.

    Let’s GO RANGERS. I greatly dislike DC fans…

  69. After last season, I have completely given up on taking anything an NHL pundit has to say about the New York Rangers seriously. It’s been a real lesson in how easy it is to do that job when given a list of talking points for each team.

    Only team “beat writers” who follow one or two teams can possibly have a chance to grasp the intricacies and realities of whats going on with any given team.

  70. @NYRangers 14s

    Saying that he likes “a lot of things” about @JohnMoore_4, Alain Vigneault states that Moore will play point on top power play unit tonight

    THANK GOD

  71. It’s early, no reason we can’t win the next 4 out of the Lestropolitin Division.

    Clean the slate, and grab the KEYS to the CARSEAT :)

  72. Hooray! The American Government can go back to getting paid! oh wait….they were getting paid before.

  73. UK – the Game is on NBC tonight, so it will be a DC feed.

    I’ll be watching the game, when I fold my cards :)

    Rangers win 4-3!

    Goals from Richie, Miller, Cally, Step.

    Green from Washingtin gets 1 goal, 2 assist, 10 PIM, 10 SOG, 8 Hits, 6 Blocks. Is that too much to ask for :)

  74. Is Kreider that bad that he cannot make this woeful squad? I guess Dolan’s friend is calling all the shots.

  75. Kreider has a two-way contract and allows them to remove his full salary from the cap when he’s in the minors. You can blame Sather for, as some here say, redundant signings (Moore, Pouliot, MZA).

    Or AV hates Kreider.

  76. I breathe through my nose.

    (Even if it was a hockey play gone wrong, which I don’t agree with, I’d want him called in. Otherwise, you’re getting into perceived intent and thats how a guy like Shane Doan becomes immune to punishment.)

  77. Now that the shut down in Washington is over, can we go back to beating the Caps’ Ashams in the playoffs?

  78. FG – Ashams new team is undefeated. So I’m thinking he has a good shot at the playoffs!

  79. Boyle should be given an opportunity on the PP.

    At the very least his large heretofore useless body might provide a screen.

    Failing this assignment the 6’6″ 240lb. pansy of the NHL should be lanced!

    The two largest players on the roster are Pyshatt and “Lance” Boyle, if their bodies are of no use they must be removed.

  80. Better Buckle up the Car Seat!

    Tonights Game is going to be wide open.

    Rangers can’t take any penalties. Caps Power Play is the best in the league. Ovechkin, Green, Backstrom, & Grabovski are leading the league in PPP.

    If only the Rangers had such a thing.

  81. If there’s one thing that’s actually been working (at 23.5%), it’s the PP (although not to the level of the Caps). Even when it hasn’t scored, it’s looked pretty good.

    However, I’d trade a good PP for actually winning games again.

  82. Miller did look better than Kreider in the preseason, and he did put up 4 goals right away. So I can see how he jumped over Kreider on the call up.

  83. Hanks has his hands full tonight! I doubt his numbers go down tonight.

    Makes you wonder, how much he is REALLY going to miss Torts this year??????

  84. We tried the Boyle on the PP thing. That didn’t go so well last time around. Boyle is a 3rd line/PK guy. He should stay away from the PP. And Kreider isn’t here because he doesn’t deserve to be here. Once he starts improving his game, he’ll get a shot with the full time roster.

    Is AV dressing 7 D tonight? Having Falk sit in the box or on the bench really isn’t worth it, especially since people complained that Torts tired out the D last year by only using 2 pairings.

  85. Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice

    So, Clowe will miss Thursday’s game in Ottawa and Saturday’s game against the Rangers, who he finished last season with.

    @TGfireandice

    Clowe sustained three suspected concussions last season, but received clean bill of health after batttery of tests after season.

  86. Boyle’s actually done well in front of the net on the PP on the second unit … that’s Callahan’s spot on the first unit.

  87. _How about that Ryane Clowe signing?_

    I was looking for more JAM.

    Oh, you mean for the Devils.

  88. Torts might have a tough time winning his division, with San Jose, La, Anaheim, & Phoenix ahead of him.

  89. by the way, looks like Clowe has another concussion. Thank goodness Sather didn’t resign Clowe. I was really surprised that Lou signed him to a contract. That contract is going to turn out brutal for the devils.

  90. Tommy – NOT going to happen. He played 100 + games for us. The Man is on a mission this year!!!

    Beside he needs to perform for the Fighting Sioux ALL YEAR LONG!!!

  91. That had Slats disaster written all over it, and he passed … which probably left room to keep Richards. So it was one gamble against another. If Richards stays upright and then is bought out in the summer, Slats wins.

  92. Are there any other teams that have only had four different players score from inside the red line this year?

  93. and now that Nash has suffered 2 concussions in less the a year that contract is going to be really brutal because he is now damaged goods.

  94. The Rangers have had the least goal scorers, but Buffalo and Philly have only one more team goal in 8 and 7 games (versus 5 for the Rangers), respectively.

    But, when you’re using Buffalo and Philly as your comparables, things aren’t good.

  95. Not a chance I make that guess, Sioux. Too much experience on that topic for me — Richter, LaFonataine, Lindros, Beukeboom, Sauer, Staal, etc.

  96. from the Soft Shelled Jumbo Shrimps:

    UPDATE ON SHARKS DEFENSEMAN DAN BOYLE

    SAN JOSE – Sharks defenseman Dan Boyle was kept overnight at a hospital in St. Louis. He will be returning to San Jose later today to continue his medical care and undergo further evaluation.

  97. Tonight, the real nightmare begins.

    As divisional rivals start tasting blood in the water and get to enjoy an easy 2 points from us every night.

    Caps are going to have a party in Hank’s hole tonight.

  98. (Also, Nash and Clowe aren’t comps in a Rangers sense. Nash wasn’t acquired with a known history of concussions. Had Clowe been kept, it would have been doing so despite that knowledge.)

  99. Stranger Nation on

    “Hopefully tonight is the night”- @zuccarello36 seeks first points of season as #NYR face Caps;
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    The teeny weeny zucchini is treading on thin ice

  100. Which is the fear. Nash ends up in some gray area where he’s healthy enough to play but completely unable to perform at the level he’s supposed to.

  101. Hey Carp, you’re only +2 on me for our Brassard versus Richards point bet. Feels like it should be more but ol’ Selfish Face Richards isn’t setting anyone else up.

  102. I don’t think there’s going to be allowable “healthy enough” scenarios if Nash’s (or anyone’s) concussion issues end up being chronic.

  103. Remember when people LOVED Brassard and then Carp and I told everybody to relax and see what happens when the gem wears off and he gets into the doldrums of a season?

  104. I’m trying to stay positive in rangerland but I’m finding it hard to do. This new coach’s style doesn’t appear to be a good one for the type of players the Rangers have and than you have Callahan, Lundqvist and Girardi as UFA’s at the end of the year and than after next year you have Staal. Plus you have Richards and a damaged Nash to boot. Future is not looking so bright in rangerland. it will be very interesting how it all pans out. I don’t have a good feeling about it especially when Sather is the GM.

  105. If Pouliot finishes at all, Brassard is atleast tied for points with Richards. His passing has not been an issue even a little.

  106. He’s also leading the regular forwards in Corsi and QoC. He’s starting 45% in the defensive zone versus Richards’ 61%. So … c’mon. Both of you are too smart to play the “WHERE ARE THE GOALZ” game.

  107. (45% in the offensive zone … this is what happens when I get frustrated on a board that doesn’t allow for quick modifications of typos.)

  108. I liked the Puliot signing. I just don’t understand him getting Top 6 minutes. As I have said, he’s good enough for any team to want him but he’s bad enough for any team to let him walk.

  109. Yeah, that’s sort of the thing I wasn’t anticipating (in general and when making the bet). I knew Richards would get protected, but I figured Brassard would get second-protected with Stepan being the good matchup C. Maybe because its early or because we have last change, but so far I’m a bit surprised in terms of starts.

  110. Also wasn’t thrilled with the MZA signing when they:
    1) had already signed Pouliot
    2) needed to re-sign Stepan
    3) had Miller/Kreider/Hrivik to fill the spot

  111. Wouldn’t Miller-Brassard-Kreider be a sort of fun line to watch assuming you trust Miller to play both ways? This seems like the perfect time to bring Kreider up and just let him go, when everyone is down and we’re desperately in need of offensive talent.

  112. MZA is going to make his way onto the WBM (c) at this pace. Maybe even bump Richards if the trend continues. Although MDZ may lose his spot tonight since he’s not playing. Maybe.

  113. The thing I don’t get about MZA and Pouliot is, if they’re not scoring, they’re literally doing nothing to contribute. Probably taking away from the overall effort. You know a guy like Boyle is still playing a defensive role and killing penalties. Logically, shouldn’t those guys reside right at the top of the meter?

  114. That’s my common complaint with guys like Pyatt. Very one dimensional players. We didn’t have a lot of those a few years back when we made it to the ECF.

  115. If I’m calculating this correctly (and I’m probably not), they’ll need to clear $400k in cap space when Hagelin comes back. Fast is $800k, but then they will only be able to keep two spare players (unless Nash winds up on LTIR).

  116. When Nash’s career ends abruptly and is forced to put on LTIR:

    “I didn’t sign him to that contract.” -Glen Sather

  117. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I disagree with everyone who says start calling everything close to an illegal hit a penalty. That attitude will turn the nhl into a no hit league.

    You have to slow the players down, not the game, the players. They can build up speed from there own side if the red line and cruise in after a puck/defensive player trying to play the puck with reckless abandon. Bring back interference in the d zone, let D partners screen incoming forwards, not knock them over or pull them down, just run a bit of interference.

    Say what you want about the “clutching and grabbing” era and concussion awareness is much better now than then, but there were many less concussions then than now!

    If you slow the players down, the game will still be fast with crisp passing and talented players. The 80’s oilers played a fast game, the wings in the 90’s did. It won’t ruin the game, it will make it safer for the players.

  118. Apparently Evander Kane may have suffered a serious leg injury in practice today. Now’s the time to trade Nash for Kane. Our hurt guy for yours.

  119. And Pouliot contributes plenty when he’s not scoring. Just like Dorsett, he’s guaranteed to take a stupid penalty, usually for high sticking.

    That guy has all the tools to be a solid player in the league, he just can’t finish. The other 95% of the ice he’s fine.

  120. Like coaches weren’t putting better offensive players on to start offensive-zone shifts and vice versa before computers were invented.

  121. BTW, Pouliot got signed because he was having a career year last year. On pace for 48-50 points over an 82 game season. It actually has a good signing based on his game last year, but as usual the UFA year is better than the rest.

    And it seems like the sum of the parts is greater than the whole (or whatever that saying is).

  122. Chris Osgood said something great on Hockey Central yesterday when asked about advanced stats. He said (not an exact quote): “If a coach needs that stuff to know who his best face off guy is he’s not paying enough attention to the actual game.”

  123. Revisiting Nash, even though I was heavily against that trade I never thought this would’ve happened. He picked up little nagging injuries in Columbus that would keep him out a game or two here or there (not including 2005-06), but nothing like this.

    I only bring this up because the inevitable “WHY DID WE TRADE FOR HIM?!? TOO MANY CONCUSSIONS!!!” conversation comes up, even I’ll stand up and say that wasn’t the case.

  124. Stranger Nation on

    Pullout is a waste – top 6?? Please, maybe on a scrub team like the Bolts or …..

  125. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Anyone here think slats hired AV just to try and intice the sedins here in their UFA year?

  126. I don’t mind the Pouliot signing at $1.3M. But, he’s a 15-18 goals scorer, so I’m not really sure what anyone is expecting.

  127. can’t imagine any team in the NHL will be able to sign and keep the twins together next season, other than Vancouver, unless they take a huge discount to stay together. That won’t happen.

  128. _Like coaches weren’t putting better offensive players on to start offensive-zone shifts and vice versa before computers were invented._

    Or even before fingers were invented, since its simple counting, right? Linemates and competition matter, quantifying it shouldn’t be feared.

  129. How about that Ryane Clowe signing?

    I have always been a firm believer tat NY’s medical community is far superior to NJ’s :-)

  130. Osgood’s point ignores that stats + observation are going to trump observation every time. In a supplement to watching, or a confirmation of what you’re watching, not a replacement for watching.

  131. _It’s just typical, Gravy. Complaining about the bottom 6 guys is what we do._

    And complaining about the heads who complain about the bottom six is what I do :)

  132. even if some of those stats are nonsense in such a random game of bouncing pucks and deflections and own-goals. what would Corsi say about McDonagh’s goal on Quick? Or Richards’ three flukes in Buffalo last year?

  133. Wouldn’t change a thing, Carp. Corsi counts shot attempts for and against, regardless of the outcome of the shot.

  134. Carp, it’s all about small edges. Given any one situation, a lot of what happens is random. But, if you put players into situations where they will be more successful, the outcomes should be positive over a large enough sample.

    It’s the same with poker. Anyone can get lucky in a given hand, but if you make the optimal play each time, you will win more in the long run.

  135. That’s the thing I don’t get about the kneejerk hatred of advanced stats. I think everyone here, math nerd or non-math nerd, looks to see whether we outshoot or get outshot. This simply quantifies it at a player level. If Corsi is fundamentally misleading, so are shots on goal.

  136. I’m a huge advanced stats guy, even created a player valuation formula in college for a class (mostly for fun though) and my only issue with it is how hard it is to track certain data in certain situations that measures player success since it’s so dependent upon everyone else that is on the ice. It’s much easier for baseball and even basketball to a certain extent since they run set plays, but hockey is so free flowing that it’s hard to accurately capture that data.

    For example, I started a side project to try to find out where the most important area of the ice is to score goals (really just trying to prove it was the slot and teams that take it away, i.e. 2011-12 Rangers, have more success than those that don’t). It started off great as I was able to fun shot charts that were pretty accurate for a few teams. I had the shot location, shot type, situation (PP or PK), even the location on net in which it was either saved or went in.

    This was all great, until I realized it meant nothing unless I had the location on the ice of every player when the shot was taken. In order to do that, I’d have to break down video of each and every goal (which would be somewhat time consuming since I was just one guy) to prove whether it was a screen that wasn’t deflected, how many people were in front of the goalie, did the pass from across ice through a screen, was there a man on the far boards that was an option that could move the defense over to protect again the pass and open up a shooting lane,…,and I can keep going with about 30 more things. I realized that while it was cool, I’d never get a truly accurate answer with those types of statistics because the game was moving too much and without taking into account all of those factors, the standard deviations would be way too big.

    It could also be the player in me that thought “when in this situation, I look at this” and the numbers guy in me just threw it all out the window. It’s still interesting data that I have kept somewhere on my PC at home, but it really felt like a wasted project the more I kept getting into it.

    The player valuation one I thought was better as I found some real steals on there of guys who were ridiculously effective for a cheap price (see Derek Roy from 06-10) and others that were way overrated (our boy Rick Nash).

  137. I like Corsi. It’s definitely helpful. I just think that observation AND advanced stats are important and I don’t think stats should be taken so far that you’re basically coaching a fantasy team. People and attitudes and chemistry and jam and grit and all that other intangible and unquantifiable stuff is insanely important.

  138. That’s awesome, Jonny. Not sure if you’re a baseball guy, but the same flaw comes up with defensive stats. You can quantify to an extent, but unless you know velocity of the ball and the starting point of the fielder, its never going to fully tell what its intending to tell.

  139. Anyone else mesmerized by Ice-T’s wife CoCo ?

    She spins me right round baby right round like a record baby right round round round

  140. To use a hockey example, take two teams of equal ability. If one team continually rolled four lines, regardless of the situation, and the other based lines on what was going on, the second would win more games over a large sample. But the other would win a few games too.

  141. That’s remarkable Jonny. Thanks for sharing. I always think of baseball and things like BABIP and other stats that basically account for how lucky a particular player is. That’s similar to deflected goals.

  142. Mister D – shots on goal are fundamentally misleading. In my study I did about goals and their location on the ice, I also found out (which was obvious, but it proved it) that teams that shot more than 70% of their shots from outside the slot scored around .35 goals less a season than those that did. So teams like our Rangers were outshooting teams every game, but most of their shots came from outside the slot and they were losing games.

    It’s all about effectiveness of those shots and the location in which they are taken.

    Although that isn’t your point, thought I’d explain mine anyway haha

  143. And I’m a fan of Corsi, but like Manny said you have to use it along with actual observation too.

  144. I’ve read that too, Jonny, but isn’t there still a strong correlation between team Corsi (regardless of placement) and winning percentage. I thought I just read that in an article discussing how last year’s Leafs sort of broke Corsi a little.

  145. Jonny, I had a friend that did something similar for our baseball fantasy teams (before sites had pre-draft rankings, etc). He created a database that used standard deviation on the scoring categories to assign values to players. We always finished in the top 3.

  146. To finish that point, I think advanced stats work better in fantasy settings than in real-life games. You can have two great players that are better when they are apart rather than on the same line, etc.

  147. Also a little issue with the 70% thing. The problem isn’t the shots taken from the outside, its the lack of shots from the inside.

  148. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I think Jonny D should get an in person hearing from shanny after his 3pm post, it gave me a concussion just reading it :)

  149. And that’s true on deflected goals, but while luck plays part of it being in that area and getting your stick on it is the part that takes some of that luck away. Hard to measure, but you can at least measure how effective people are at doing it.

    I think if I were to start it up again, I wouldn’t try to come up with a pure effectiveness stat like I was because I’ll never get a true answer. It’s more to track trends and what players are the most effective in certain spots, but not actually give a stat that captures everything like that since it’s essentially impossible to quantify.

  150. Maybe the PP will be a new system known as a 5 Pointed star where all players somehow play the point from a different part of the ice.

  151. And you idiots can make fun of me all you want for caring about the Wolfpack goalie situation but:

    @AGrossRecord 6m

    With the #NYR unsure whether Marty Biron will report to Hartford (AHL), G Jeff Malcolm is assigned to the Wolf Pack from Greenville (ECHL).

    @AGrossRecord 5m

    At Hartford (AHL), G Scott Stajcer is still recovering from a hip injury. Jason Missiaen is the Wolf Pack’s other goalie.

  152. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I’d rather have falk’s shot on the point than OPG or Norris winner Stralman.

  153. Unless Henrik plays super human tonight, they lose again.

    Wouldn’t it be funny if Richards scores 35 goals this year and the team continues to tank? All this talk of Richards being the key to success and the team’s success proceeds in inverse proportion to Richards’ performance.

  154. AHL > ECHL ? Maybe? At least he will see some Pro’s who get assigned for conditioning?

    I DID WICKY! I CARED

  155. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    The only advanced stats/ratings anyone needs to use are the highly regarded and accurate player stats by easports in nhl14.

  156. If the Rangers continue to tank I will just have to join my family in rooting for Les Habs so I can cheer for The Prust again.

  157. Dark gray cords today. Wouldn’t say skinny, but I’m not getting both legs down one side either.

  158. “Is Kreider that bad that he cannot make this woeful squad?”

    Yes. The fact that he hasn’t adapted yet with all insane amount of opportunity he’s had is very, very, very telling in my opinion.

    “Sedins: unless they take a huge discount to stay together. That won’t happen.”

    I wouldn’t be so sure. Those two are absolute freaks for each other. Not sure how much you know about their history, but they’ve been playing together since they were like 8 years old and they made a huge stink about making sure they were drafted to the same team way back when. I could see them doing whatever it takes to stay an item.

  159. Thanks, Wick!

    The Doctor, I work in an office type place so I can only wear “slim” dress pants or whatever. But the minute I get home I am going to put on some SUPER worn in skinny jeans. It’s going to be amazing.

  160. I used to by JNCO’s by testing out if I could get my entire head into the leg opening. Those were the days. When 311 was king.

  161. If it weren’t for the B-52s, I would hate 311 more than any bad in the history of history.

  162. Salty, what I meant is they won’t take a huge discount to go somewhere else together when they can get the most money and years to stay together in Vancouver.

    I can’t see another team being able to clear enough cap space and make enough of a commitment to get both of them out of Vancouver as UFAs, and I doubt they’d want to split up.

  163. So long as we’re heading more and more each year to a European game, may as well expand the ice.

  164. yeah I don’t see the Sedins ever splitting up….total creeps. I think they’d rather play for the league minimum than be separated.

  165. And full cages. And smaller players. And more advertisements all over the ice. And less seats in each arena but a higher percentage of them empty…

  166. Love my brother, but if I (like the Sedins) were with him every day for 33 gdamn years in a row, I’d jump off the bridge into a Roastbeef sandwich.

  167. But honestly, and I will keep talking about this Chimera hit on Schultz, the Chimera hit is the precise reason they went to hybrid icing except that it occurred on a dump-in. It’s really offensive that he merely gets fined.

  168. Manny, no disagreement. If the league was serious, Chimera would be sitting for 10+ as well despite Schultz not being injured. Start penalizing the act and not the result and things will change.

  169. I whole heartedly agree that the equipment insanity and the hardness of the plastic completely contributes to people getting injured more often.

  170. And regarding icing, these skaters today can stop on a dime. If the forechecker was actually trying legitimately to get to the puck instead of trying to punish, his stick would be on ice, reaching.

  171. Ash, or someone like him, with good hands, should have been given a chance on the first line with Steps and Nash. He actually used to score goals back in the nineteenth century before he was turned exclusively into an 8 minute, 4th line goon. Heresy?

  172. Rob in Beantown on

    The equipment issue is interesting. There is a sizable contingent of people in college hockey, including a majority of coaches, that want to abolish the full cage helmets in favor of visors because they think being protected so much makes players more reckless than they would be otherwise. I think the NCAA actually announced a plan to move to visors in the next few years but there is all kinds of bureaucracy that needs to happen first.

  173. Rob in Beantown on

    There are way more game misconduct penalties in college hockey too. I swear somebody gets the gate for a bad hit from behind pretty much every game it feels like.

  174. That Chimera hit should be at least 20 games.

    And hate on Cooke all you want (I know Carp isn’t a fan and I still think he’s kind of a scumbag), but he’s been pretty good the last 2 years. Penalty minutes have been way down and he’s playing a hard nosed game without taking cheap shots.

    I’m still waiting for him to screw up, but until then I can’t say the guy hasn’t changed his game.

  175. Cooke is a “former repeat offender” because he didn’t get suspended for kicking Karlsson’s Achilles.

  176. And if Cooke is going to finish his career as the mentor for guys who play on the edge, good for him. If its his way of giving back and making up for ending Savard’s career (which he apparently feels terrible about still), then more power to him. And if it makes the game safer where we stop seeing headshots because he’s making those guys aware of what is clean and what isn’t and when to throw a hit, then that’s a good thing.

  177. Some ex-NHLer in the book I’m reading says back then, Avery wouldn’t have stayed healthy for one full period with his big mouth.

  178. Is that the “Don’t call me a Goon” book, Coos? Because I ordered it after you brought it up.

  179. Yeah, Manny. And Dorsett basically admits he can’t police most of the big guys, but won’t stop trying. :)

  180. Please, lets stop with the that was done on purpose. Anyone who actually thinks Cooke stepped on his Achilles on purpose never played the game of hockey.

  181. Cooke is a consummate creep, period. And after all the cheap shots and obvious intents to injure, remember his EVIL hit on McDonagh, which drew 10 games?

  182. That’s fine Carp, but the numbers prove otherwise. I don’t believe it either, but innocent until proven guilty…again.

  183. Chef Alain 'Prost' C'est La Vie-gnaeault on

    I think the Rangers win tonight, but admittedly im thinking the only chance to get rid of the creme brulee behind the bench is extending losing streak, so rooting for the losses. The guy is as inspiring as a fob hanging from the left side of your steering wheel. (LeMans fans will get the left sided reference)

    Good day, olde sports!

  184. Papa was a rolling stone
    wherever he laid his hat was his home
    And when he died
    All he left us was a loan (alone?)

  185. I believe I said that I had Mono twice, now I got Stereo. No respone? This is one tough room.

  186. Gravy – because sometimes you know that in order for things to get better, they have to get worse.

  187. I’m not rooting for them to lose, but if they are going to anyway, why not get blown out?

    Easier for me to deal with and it’s the only chance Sather AND Veen-Yo hit the road together, like Smith and Muckler once did.

  188. and while it’s hard to imagine he cut Karlsson’s tendon intentionally, that was a freakin’ sneaky dirty play.

  189. Clean Slate translation: No matter how bad your past performances, we’ll give it another shot.

  190. Francesa sickening again. If Snyder gave the Indian Nation $20,000,000. , they’d go along with the ‘Washington Stinking Redskins.’ Who’s kidding whom?

  191. except it won’t be MSG by then, coos. It will be in a different location and will have some corporate name. Optimum Hot Spot Arena. Foxwoods Final Five Garden.

    Papa, Smith fired himself by hiring Muckler.

  192. It’s Fastest 150 seconds in the National. Hockey. League. (waves finger), Carp.

    Important. Pauses. Hashtag Punctuation.

  193. Lots of great comments today.

    Allow me to sum up the point I take away from it all.

    Let’s Go Rangers !!!!

  194. ‘Bring the kiddies, bring the wife
    Guaranteed, you’ll have the time of your life
    No more checking, only goals –
    Try our balcony where you’ll meet all the trolls –

    We’re loaded with talent,
    Never need luck –
    Roast beef sandwich for just 60 bucks!

  195. Why Bettman will not ban fighting: Sweater sales, every NHL arena, top 3 – Goalie, Top Scorer, Enforcer.

  196. Why is Dolan putting large millions of dollars into renovations when the City wants him to move across the street?

  197. Rob in Beantown on

    So he can cry poor as a defense against moving, and guarantee sweetheart financing if he has to

    LMAO at the Mets song

  198. I hope that aged hippy goof de Blasio likes hockey. Unlikely. We might end up with the Teterboro Rangers.

  199. Is it true that the Knicks play a pre season game at MSG before the NY Rangers play a regular season game there?

  200. Good job with the Mets song Coos, lol.
    Always loved the Mets song and the idea that they actually have one.

  201. Seee, do you know who played for the Mets, Knicks, and the Rangers (in the same year, no less)? Initials RC

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