First. Also, no fresh post yet.
For those of you that remember our beloved Ocho Cinco, he has won the backup job with the Bruins and will spend the season backing up Rask. Should be a nice bump to his career.
Also: @TGfireandice 1m
Schneider will start opener.
Schneider starting already does not bode well for my BBB team. Especially with Rinne as my #1.
Brodeur will be using a can opener.
Schneider has to be the number one in NJ, right? Despite what Lou/DaBore said
You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill
I will choose a path that’s clear, I will choose freewill
Gravy, once turned in the lyrics to “the Trees” as a poetry assignment thirty years ago. Big Rush fan.
Teacher gave me a B+, thrilled with my “effort”.
Nice, cw! Hope you got a good grade.
Actually took me until the last few years to get into them. Always thought the music rocked, but had trouble with Lee’s voice. I’ve learned to appreciate it more.
Incredible musicianship in Rush, but Lee’s voice is second to none in the awful department.
Rush’s Neil Peart – Drummer God
Manny how does the BBB league score?
I have no clue outside of Goals,assist, wins ?
Just look at the matchup, Sioux. The stat categories are in there. I am currently dominating you.
It must be hockey season…. we are to get snow in parts of ND.
It would be nice to see the leaves change first.
Funny stuff Nano.
Who’s the Coat Checkers?
You might be able to label that DOMINATING :)
Are we supposed to sub players in and out during the week based on when they are playing?
Someone help Wicky. He registered for the ESPN challenge. Then forgot to pick his players.
Rob they all get 5 games in the “First” week.
Not sure how this works? I know you can switch a player up till he starts his first game for that week. Similar to football ball and the kick off.
Not sure How Manny set up the “other” columns to score.
Is it 5 games per player or position? And where does it say how many you have used?
In the Yahoo! league, Sioux? I’m the commissioner so I can edit the league as I see fit. Since the one we do is entirely Rangers fans I decided to include Face off win %, hits and blocks because we all talk about that minute garbage. If I could have added zone starts I would have!
You can edit your lineup daily. All the categories are head to head against your opponent, so you just have to have more (or less) than your opponent to win that “stat point”. No Bettman Bonus points for tied categories.
For instance, if one team has 14 goals for the week, and the other has 10, the former gets 1 point. If both teams have 14, they both get 0.
Nanny has chosen 12 categories, so the max points your team can have in a given week is 12.
I see that Manny. I just wasn’t sure how the scored the hits, face off wins, blocks. It’s not the same as a goal or an assist.
You can’t do as you see fit. You could have a nasty players’ strike on your hands. You can only say, ‘Come Get the Cup!’
So you want to start every player you can for the week.
And you can change daily, buy the looks of it.
No problem. Yes, you want to set your lineup to get the maximum number of players on any given day. It’s a good idea to diversify your lineup (ex. have players that are eligible at C and on the wing).
Also, I think you need to have 3 goalie starts in order to qualify for the goalie categories. This way, you don’t sit all your goalies if you get a shutout in the first game of the week. Not that anyone here would do that.
so if Hank is worth a max contract, what are Cally and Girardi worth? is Cally a 6mill over 7yrs guy? same with Girardi?
if you can’t get Girardi signed by the trade deadline, do you move him?
Henrik reportedly seeking maximum CBA 8 year term, $8.5 mil per. No wonder management feels under no pressure to come to an agreement until they see what’s what with performance, new pads, injury, etc., etc.
is it time to do away with fighting? I have been watching since the 70’s, so I am pretty old school about fighting in the game, but even I am at the point where it may need to go.
I would overpay Cally. he is worth more to the Rangers than any other team. if he hit UFA, he is going to get 6 mill a year. I would give it to him now. Girardi’s game I have grown to appreciate, but I would not go big dollars on him.
If that’s true I’m glad Hank is serious about wanting to finish his career as a Ranger.
Your point about management wanting to see his play this season before signing the long deal also makes sense.
No. Staged fights, however, who needs? What happened to Parros, for instance, could result from a legal, blind, stiff check.
Oh! I would respond to you actual question but Gravy covered it way better than I could. Maybe he should be commissioner.
How do you make a rule differentiating staged fights from organic ones?
Staged fights are stupid and I think the old school “goon” idea is being evolved out of the game as new playing styles take over. I don’t ever, ever want to see fighting removed. I just want to see more of the John Moore type fights and less of the “hey, you wanna go after the puck drop?” type fights (Even though they are fun).
Where in Holy Hell is Mrs. Manny?
Hybrid fighting. :)
Hank, and any other player for that matter, is only serious about one thing when it comes to his contract. getting every last penny he can. so if the Ranger offer 5 yrs 8 mill, and Nashville offers 6 at 8, guess what, he’s gone. it is always about the money.
I love the “real” fights, two guys ticked off at each other, drop the mitts and go. But those are rare now. Two goons fighting is ridiculous,—even if I enjoy the fight itself, just as the fans do—and that’s what will ultimately get fighting banned. Probably sooner than later.
Rangers can offer him more years, though.
2 more dogs arrived in Vancouver overnight.
I think you’re right bull dog line. There are just always people who pop up from time to time saying things like “Hank is gone because of ” and it’s good to hear that isn’t actually true.
That was supposed to say “Hank is gone because of INSERT RANGERS PROBLEM HERE” but I formatted it wrong, apparently
the Goon is being phased out because of the instigator rule. they have no choice but to just fight other goons. they can’t really protect the skill guys by yelling at an offending player.
First, I am not in the school of thought that fighting leads to greater injuries than just playing the sport of hockey. Second, I think that if you play hockey for your life and make it your living you are assuming the risk that you may suffer severe injury. The same way fisherman, loggers, farmers, mechanics and other laborers suffer severe injuries. For example, my uncle’s were lobsterman (pronuounced “lawhbstermen”) a while back and they took some serious pounding in their back, shoulders and hips.
Regarding staged fights, I think it’s probably nearly impossible to legislate it out of the game of hockey. Therefore, you stop looking for instant fixes in hockey and you go back to what worked forever: allowing the game to police itself. Boarding (like Kaleta on Richards) is far more devastating than fighting and you still can’t legislate it out entirely.
Take a look at him personally and listen to Bettman’s limp-wristed phonics. In a million years, do you think his ilk likes (physical) fighting? He (and the owners) are afraid they’ll lose fans which translates into dollars thrown to the wind. If he thought otherwise, he would push for a ban tomorrow afternoon.
I don’t want to see fighting completely done away with because, right or wrong, I still think there’s a deterrent factor involved that keeps barely checked idiots like Torres and Rinaldo slightly more checked. Seems like you could knock the staged fights out, or reduce them severely, by capping fights allowed, either at a team or a player level. Still there when “needed”, not there to be frivolous, and dummies who exist just to fight can be phased out.
Bull, good questions re: Cally and G. I agree with your thinking.
I also love the fisticuffs. I mean, hard not to like that Lucic bout last week but the staged stuff, while entertaining, could go.
No thanks, Manny. I’ll just be like Shanahan and interpret the rules.
Then give everyone a 3 game suspension.
if Kaleta, and players like him, had to defend themselves after doing such things than maybe you would not see it as often. 17 minutes in penalties protects guys like Kaleta.
nor should they be able to force a guy like Nash or Hagelin to fight or defend himself. they should be phased out.
Agree bull dog. That instigator rule is as stupid and backwards as it gets. Guys get destroyed on huge open ice hits (usually charging is called) and there is no retribution aside from the NHL’s wheel of justice and a minimal fine.
I would hope that one of my “players” could take care of it, not some idiot fourth-liner who otherwise wouldn’t be in the lineup.
having an enforcer will never, ever, ever, never stop a Kaleta.
The Nashes and Hagelins are dinosaurs. The future of this league will be the John Scotts. They didn’t fill the Roman Coliseum by fielding baton twirlers and girlie gladiators. :)
I like this quote by Yzerman. You can’t take head injuries and concussions seriously while simultaneously allowing guys to pummel each other’s skulls. Either you are being serious about it or you aren’t. Personally I think head injuries are a serious problem and if the NHL condones fighting they aren’t serious about addressing it.
_“Yes, I believe a player should get a game misconduct for fighting,” Yzerman told The Dreger Report. “We penalize and suspend players for making contact with the head while checking, in an effort to reduce head injuries, yet we still allow fighting._
_“We’re stuck in the middle and need to decide what kind of sport do we want to be. Either anything goes and we accept the consequences, or take the next step and eliminate fighting.”_
you are right Carp.
not sure what the solution is. right now it is sort of like MLB Baseball. 1st pitcher gets to throw at someone, but if the other pitcher retaliates, he gets tossed.
I like fights sometimes. They’re fun, obviously. But I’d still like hockey even if there were no fights.
It just seems like all violent sports, which Hockey and Football definitely are, seem to be attempting to eliminate the seemingly purposeful violence while being completely unable to control the incidental violence, like head shots. The NFL is phasing out kick offs basically and it is a huge loss for the sport. The NHL will probably mandate full cages and a bunch of other garbage like eliminating fighting with enormous suspensions. And it will be bad.
The violence is an element of the game that the fans like and people have liked since the dawn of time in all cultures and all genders. People dig warriors. It’s a thing.
We just have to accept it as an inherent risk that these players, who are valuable assets for their owners, and adored commodities by the fans may suffer an injury doing what they love. But it’s the price they have agreed to pay for getting fame, fortune, chicks and one hell of a cool profession.
If I were Sather, I’d let Hank play out the year and see where it ends up.
It’s seems to have worked for the Yankees all these years. I dont recall Cashen ever re-negotiating with a player during the last year of their contract.
I’m happy with humungous checks. (Especially when they come from Bank of America.)
Unless it already has? We see a lot of bad hits, but ones like Cooke on Savard (awful intent, awful result) are thankfully pretty rare. My (perhaps empty) fear is that if you remove fighting and keep supplemental discipline as weak as it is, where now rather than Dorsett maybe chasing you down for a pummeling, the worst that can happen is some guys yell at you. Odds are there aren’t enough psychopaths in the league that Kaleta cheaping McDonagh would lead to Dorsett intentionally trying to kill Vanek, so its possible you give free reign to guys like Kaleta to really go unhinged under the guise of playing “intimidating” hockey. For all we know, this is him under control.
(Also, while I’m totally for reducing fights, I wish guys could come off the bench. When Cooke blindsides Savard or that guy who was friends with Girardi and whose name I already forgot flips an elbow up, maybe he should be dealt with on the spot.)
Well stated Manny, 5:07
Manny, “chics” don’t always dig fighting.
Manny @ 5:07 … how much does that “its bad, but its what we like” mentality change if Parros had died last night? Serious question.
He meant free McNuggets in the locker room.
Manny, shouldn’t you change your Avatar to Richard Burton?
Parros could have fallen off a barstool and ended up like he did.
Nice posts guys, interesting to hear the different thoughts on this ” hot button topic.
Coos @ 4:55 makes a lot of sense. All about the Benjamins.
If we (Rangers) have good fighters, I’m all for fighting. If we don’t, then we should get some.
If I were Richards and if Ash is done, I would give him 150 grand a year to walk me to my car.
Sure, and someone hit by a drunk driver could be hit by a sober driver so why worry about drunk driving? Things that happen could happen other ways so all things are ok.
There are, however, (and always have been) a couple few semi-psychopaths in the NHL who should, when suspended, be ordered to be evaluated and be cleared by mental health professionals as part of their reinstatement.
So, if a guy steps off a curb and gets hit by a car, disallow walking across the street?
You’re conflating reasonably preventable with happenstance. A player getting injured in a fight is anything but happenstance. Travis Roy or your pedestrian very much is.
Thanks for the defense, Coos.
The Doctor: Parros could have died. Blake Geoffrion could have died as well. I don’t know what to say. I’m not heartless for the people involved I’m just saying that many of us, pretty much everyone, face death every single day in some way. Many laborers do terrifying jobs and develop slow killing diseases through long term exposure to chemicals. Basically, we will all die and we will possibly die of a direct relationship to this world and the choices we have made. If someone dies on the ice, or is paralyzed, it’s a tragedy. I’m not saying they would have ended up paralyzed elsewhere. I’m not saying it is that person’s fate. I am saying that everyone risks death and injury and the life of a hockey player ain’t that bad. So let’s continue to enjoy all aspects of the game we absolutely love.
Injuries are part of walking.
Joey, do you like movies about Gladiators?
Guess I picked the wrong day to give up Camels.
Mikey, Mikey, Mikey….!
I get what you’re saying Manny, but most other professions don’t have people risking serious injury or death for nothing beyond the entertainment of others. I think the NHL (and NFL) are trying to get out in front of this because rather than have some people complain about losing fighting (or BIG HITS) while still liking the game itself, you’re risking a mass introspective turnoff if we witness a guy die.
(Or maybe I’m soft. I can barely watch games where players are coming back from concussions out of fear for them and my own fragile mind.)
(And, of course, from the league perspective you’re risking lawsuits. I imagine that’ll always be the true driver.)
fresh post, Mrs. Manny.
Does Mrs. Manny like fighting Manny?
FRESH POST WORLDS COLLIDING
Mrs Manny my 14 year old hockey girl sure does. It’s like the earth stopped turning. And she’s a girly girl, so it kind of surprises me.
I’m afraid it’s in the game to stay, I don’t see it leaving just yet.
coos 4:45, mister d 4:55, manneur 5:33.