Rangers sign LW Benoit Pouliot for one year, $1.3 million

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From the Rangers:

RANGERS AGREE TO TERMS WITH FORWARD BENOIT POULIOT

NEW YORK, July 5, 2013 – New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather announced today that the club has agreed to terms with free agent forward Benoit Pouliot.

Pouliot, 26, skated in 34 games with the Tampa Bay Lightning this past season, registering eight goals and 12 assists for 20 points, along with 15 penalty minutes. He led the team in plus-minus rating (plus-8). Pouliot registered a four-game point streak from February 12 vs. Montreal to February 19 vs. Toronto (two goals, five assists over the span).

In 2011-12, Pouliot skated in 74 games for the Boston Bruins, registering 16 goals and 16 assists for 32 points, along with 38 penalty minutes. He established career-highs in goals, points, and plus-minus rating (plus-18). Pouliot recorded a four-game point streak from December 17 at Philadelphia to December 28 at Phoenix (three goals, one assist over the span). He skated in seven playoff games, registering one goal and one assist for two points, along with six penalty minutes.

The 6-3, 205-pounder has skated in 291 career regular season NHL games with Minnesota, Montreal, Boston and Tampa Bay, registering 61 goals and 63 assists for 124 points, along with 201 penalty minutes. He made his NHL debut with Minnesota on November 22, 2006 at Montreal, and recorded his first career NHL goal on March 22, 2008 at Calgary. Pouliot established career-highs in games played (79), assists (17) and penalty minutes (87) with Montreal in 2010-11. He tallied his 100th career NHL point with Boston on March 25, 2012 at Anaheim.

In post-season play, Pouliot has registered one goal and three assists for four points, along with 19 penalty minutes in 29 games. Pouliot made his NHL playoff debut on April 17, 2008 with Minnesota vs. Colorado. He recorded his first career NHL playoff assist/point with Montreal on April 15, 2010 at Washington. Pouliot recorded his first career NHL playoff goal with Boston on April 14, 2012 vs. Washington.

Pouliot has skated in 146 career regular season games in the American Hockey League (AHL), registering 39 goals and 48 assists for 87 points, along with 200 penalty minutes. He established AHL career-highs in games played (67), goals (19), assists (17), points (36), and penalty minutes (109) with the Houston Aeros in the 2006-07 season. Pouliot has skated in 25 career AHL playoff games, registering one goal and seven assists for eight points, along with 32 penalty minutes.

Prior to turning professional, Pouliot played parts of three seasons with the Sudbury Wolves of the Ontario Hockey League (OHL), registering 66 goals and 70 assists for 136 points, along with 243 penalty minutes in 122 regular season games.

The Alfred, Ontario native was originally selected by Minnesota in the first round, fourth overall, in the 2005 NHL Entry Draft.

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  1. King with no Ring on

    To those complaining about Pouliot:

    Pouliot can net 15 goals and 15 assists per season, while neither Boyle nor Pyatt can do that.

  2. czechthemout!!! on

    Good bye Pyatt and possibly Boyle if the sign LaPiere. If not, where will the kids play?

  3. Iginla a Bruin?! He’s turning into Hossa… Jumping like a flea from team to team trying to get the cup

  4. Honored by my first Carping

    I think uncle Larry’s wrong. My calculation is the Rangers still have 14.5 million in available cap space. Including burying 1.85 with Powe and Asham in AHL. If the rumors are right about McD, we’ll soon have a better number to work with.

  5. Pouliot can also skate better than Boyle…but then again…who can’t skate better than Boyle?

    Re Horton, he is soft, injury riddled forward who disappears a lot…wait, was I describing Gaborik just now? ;)

  6. Mertonian Norm on

    Not signing over-the-hill free agents to twice their value? What’s the matter with this franchise — today’s signings are, dare I say it, competent.

  7. czechthemout!!! on

    Too bad about Lapiere but AV coached him and did not push for him so…..

  8. Iggy deal: $1.8 M base salary, $3.7 M games played bonus, $500,000 goal scoring/team playoff performance: total $6 M

  9. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I am bummed about lapierre, but stoked about Pouliot. Several threads ago I suggested him as an inexpensive pick up. He’s a fast skater and will occasionally drop the gloves, decent sized and has skill.

    If you don’t like Boyle that is fine, but he is a pretty damned good skater for his size and is not slow.

    Barb underhill, you are welcome!

  10. Bottom six right now arguably better than bottom six all of last season … except not very tough … and top six unchanged, which isn’t good enough unless a Kreider or a Miller makes a big jump and Callahan and Hagelin recover fully and quickly.

  11. WE ARENT A CUP CONTENDER.

    moore and pouliot better then asham and powe. johnson will not play much 7th/8th dman.

    GET MCDONAGH DONE

    he prob gets 5 mil based on the hamonic deal josi in nashiville voynov in la all rfa

  12. Arguably, this gives us a number of players that can swing between 2nd and 3rd lines (Pouliot, Kreider, Zucc) and 3rd and 4th lines (Dorsett, Pyatt) with perhaps a bit more effectiveness than we had last year when Pyatt was basically the only swingman, and that not very effectively, when Torts had him on a scoring line.

  13. or Pouliot-Richards-Zuccarello, Boyle-Moore-Dorsett?

    I can’t even remember who else is on this team? Pyatt?

    top six have to be Nash, Callahan, Stepan, Brassard. Hagelin, Kreider or Miller?

    Maybe they let Zuccarello take a hike so Fast or one of the other kids can play?

    I don’t know.

  14. I know, aneirin, but I think LB counted $1.85M into that number. He’s made mistakes before, for sure though. For example, yesterday he said if McD doesn’t file for arbitration by July 10th, the team can file for arbitration. Except the Rangers can’t file any arbitration case with McD because his aggregate salary was $1.325M, which is less than minimum required of $1.75M.

  15. Cross Check Charlie on

    Carp, I’m guessing that management is counting on big improvements from Kreider and Miller. They are also counting on Richards improvement also. If none of these happen the team is in big trouble no matter who the bottom six are.

  16. bull dog line on

    the Pouliot signing, I would think, is to protect in case Hagelin does not start the season. still have the feeling they are getting ready to make a trade.

  17. I think Johnson is the first injury callup on defense, nothing more at this stage.

  18. Brooks took his numbers right off of Capgeek. The big criticism I’ve always had with his stories is that he’s a bit lazy. That’s why he’s always all in for the Rangers to sign or trade for a big name player, doesn’t have to really dig up a story, has one ready made.

  19. Gotta get Stepan and McD done sooner rather than later… Don’t want to leave them hanging out there… Thank god we didnt have the cash to do anything crazy today

  20. In surprised Sather didn’t sign a full-time goon this time. He is losing his sharpness, I’m afraid. :-) is anyone still available out there, maybe I spoke too soon?

  21. Nash-Stepan-Callahan
    Kreider-Brassard-Zuccarello
    Hagelin-Miller?-Dorsett
    Pouliot-Moore-Pyatt

  22. czechthemout!!! on

    Carp

    If Boyle plays anywhere near the third line, we are dead!

    When Cally and Hags return, no room for Miller , Lindberg, Kristo, Fast unless there is a trade. If not no chance f2f or the kids and no way to find out if any of them can become bonafide top 6 forwards. The team right now is short at least one if not two top six players and a PP QB.

  23. Sather’s done this in the past, he loads up with incaseof’s during the off season and then sees if any of the utes can impress. In case of the Utes not working out, he uses the incaseof’s, if they do supplant one of the vets, he can trade the unnecessary incaseof.

  24. Cross Check Charlie on

    Maybe?

    Nash-Stepan-Kreider
    Callahan-Brassard-Hagelin
    Miller-Richards-Dorsett
    Boyle-Moore-Pouliot

  25. In this case, with Callahan and Hagelin missing camp and maybe October, the incaseofs become more like an insurance policy.

  26. bull dog line on

    king,
    not sure. they now have 5 legitimate NHL centers. I could see them moving Boyle, or Brassard. they still need a power play QB, and probably need a skilled tough guy. they have also been adding depth on D. could look to move MDZ in the right package.

  27. bull dog line on

    they also have 2 young centers on the way, in Miller, and Lindberg. something has to give.

  28. Pouliot was +8 last year on a team that had arguably the league’s worst defense corps. Very responsible in his own end, and he can put up 30-40 points and is the kind of guy you can trust to put on the ice to protect a 1-goal lead with a minute left. Bottom six looks better than it has; I think if we had this bottom six we beat NJ in 2012. But Carp is dead-on about no toughness. Carp – any whispers about maybe moving Boyle for a tough winger that can play a little. Also gotta think with these stockpiling of defenseman DelZero might be in trouble. Maybe those two together + a prospect might bring back a quality forward?

  29. Fluto Shinzawa@GlobeFluto Retweeted by Kukla’s Korner
    Bruins announce signing of veteran G Chad Johnson ($600K).

  30. The depth on D is illusory, they’ve signed and traded for a couple bunch of 7/8 guys. They need McIlrath to develop, they need to see how the two UFA’s they signed (Hughes, Allen) look, they need to see if they can get Panshin or Valentenko to commit (unlikely even if they weren’t already under KHL contract). Way too many ifs to consider trading one of their likely top 4 and their only proven offensive d-men.

    The supposed depth at center is also illusory, Lindberg is an if, Miller needs to develop and Richards is a huge question mark, trading either Boyle or Brassard would be a mistake.

  31. Not sure if that would be enough, DJK, unless WPG was hell-bent on dumping Byfuglien’s salary (not sure if it would be a wash?), or fed up with his weight problems. But if it were offered, I’d like to see it happen. And LOLing at Craig Button and these other meatheads on NHLN trumpeting the Iginla signing like he’s still elite. Iggy looked like an old man against the Isles and Bruins. He’s damn near toast.

  32. czechthemout!!! on

    He is another one of these good ole Canadien boys, eh? Aboot time someone got smart and signed him, eh?

  33. Llatonaardvark on

    I still think Brassard, MDZ, Syvret, and now Pouliot and a pick for Kane and Bogosian would be a SWEET trade for NYR.

  34. I remember Pouilliot looking like a pin in a pinball machine when playing us…always seemed to make a defensive gaff when the intensity level rose. Maybe I’m remembering the wrong Pouilliot? I think that +8 is deceptive We shouldn’t count our chickens before they hatch. Glen could be up to trading some of the pieces he just traded for.

  35. Benoit Pouliot is better than a lot of what we have. It’s a pretty good signing.

  36. Thanks for breaking down free agency day everyone. Seriously. I take away that we are a better team this evening then we were at noon, and that’s a good thing.

  37. Cross Check Charlie on

    I don’t understand wanting Bogosian. I don’t see where he’s any better than Del Zotto.

  38. I want Evander Kane.

    Good point, NYR. We got more Euro today. That’s so bad!

  39. I like this signing, but we need more. I don’t think Hags or Zucc are 2nd line material on a legit contender. Need to trade for a scoring winger.

  40. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I would be shocked if we signed Pouliot just to trade him.

    I also agree there has to be a trade coming. Depending on the pieces involved in the trade, it could be a forward or a d man, but at this point I’m thinking forward.

    I also agree with you guys on the toughness factor, or lack there of.

  41. Llatonaardvark on

    leetch, you would think so, but Bogosian wants out of WPG and I’ve heard Kane isn’t too happy there either. I think Bogosian for MDZ is possible straight up – although I necessarily wouldn’t do that – it’s Kane that makes the deal a lot more complicated, but I think he’d fill several voids on NYR.

  42. Mertonian Norm on

    Hmm, Hawks just won a Cup with seven Euro-pansies skating. Rangers had three. So, really, it’s toughness that’s needed? How about some damn skill?

  43. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I do not like the d men we had as a group last year when we got eliminated.

    I would make wholesale changes to that group if it was up to me (most teams won’t do that so I can’t imagine the rangers will either), but considering the small and non threatening demeanor of our forward group as of right now, you have to have Falk and mcilrath in the starting 6.

    So who are the other 4? Mine would be OPG, mcdonut, Staal, and Moore at this point.

    Stralman is a good #7 in my book, but not at 1.7 mil. He’s too much vanilla to go with the vanilla of OPG, mcdonut (who is just fast vanilla), the mad bomber, and Staal.

    So I move the mad bomber and Stralman.

    If they move OPG or Staal instead, that’s fine by me, then keep either the mad bomber or Stralman. But at least 2 vanillas need to go!

  44. Olga Folkyerself on

    Some more of that ol’ Sather magic. I think Rangers are all set now.

    Abracadaver. We’re dead in the water.

  45. Wick, I agree Pouliot will not be one of the pieces traded…but I’m do not have good memories of his defensive lapses that turned games in the Rangers’ favor. Also agree that a trade may be in the works.

    Problem with D in last year’s playoffs was injury to key players down the stretch. Bruins had some nice rookie replacements when their D went down, we did not this year.

    Guess this year’s FA spectacular may throw the auteur theory into disrepute? Will be an interesting season with all the changes.

  46. Hey, Jody Shelley is still available…where is that over-priced FA thug that Sather usually picks up this time of year? Can he be learning a lesson in this dept?

  47. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Rangers are soft on D, limited skill up front, not a lot of grit and snarl, weak in the glove drop department, blah blah blah. 1976 or 2002?

  48. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Amazing really – how awful Slats is at his job. Even if his prostate is the size of a grapefruit, there is no excuse for his horrid decision making…

  49. Will be ironic if CBJ go all the way and we don’t make the playoffs, n’est pas?

  50. Have to blame it on someone…should we have a pool to guess how long AV will last?

  51. Olga Folkyerself on

    “Rangers are soft on D, limited skill up front, not a lot of grit and snarl, weak in the glove drop department, blah blah blah.”

    And those are the positives…

  52. Ray Lewis had to drop out of Mont Kilimanjaro climb. Claims he shot the Sherpa but he did not shoot the Deputy.

  53. Olga Folkyerself on

    Ray Lewis had to drop out of Olympic Skiing. Claims he shot the chairlift but he did not shoot the Deputy.

  54. “I can’t seem to face up to the facts
    I’m tense and nervous and I can’t relax
    I can’t sleep, ’cause my bed’s on fire
    Don’t touch me, I’m a real live wire.

    Psycho killer, qu’est-ce que c’est?
    Fa, fa, fa, fa, fa, fa, fa, far better
    Run, run, run, run, run, run away.”

  55. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Wild
    The thing about the bruins D is they are very physical. Chara, ference (now in edm), mcquaid,and boychuk are all physical as hell and in your face. 3 of the 4 will drop their gloves at a moments notice and boychuk can. Seidenberg also plays physical.

    They were able to still succeed because they had enough physical guys that they could lose a few and still be in the face of the other team with decent minor league call ups.

    Some people say toughness is over rated and having guys that can fight is a waste of a roster space, but without playable toughness, we will not be very successful IMHO.

  56. Btw cops coos, the guy who beat the tar out of Dorsett was Kaleta, not Carcillo. Honest mistake…

  57. Lase, I’m not happy with goons, but a little grit and toughness never hurt. I think we agree on that.

  58. Olga Folkyerself on

    Ray Lewis had to drop out of the Wine Tasting meeting. Claims he shot the carafe but he did not shoot the plate of Brie.

  59. Agree on Gaborik. Moore is a rocket and has shown flashes. Dorsett is valuable. Brassard is an upgrade at center. Would have preferred to have kept Gaby and jettisoned Richards, though.

  60. Definitely! I miss having a guy like Beukeboom on defense. I miss Prust as well but he wasn’t worth what Montreal gave him…

  61. lase, that kid McIlrath has a fight pic on his tweets and someone stuck him with the nickname ‘The Undertaker.” He’s not shy, that’s for sure. Hope he can grow into the new Buke.

  62. Gaborik was hampered by injuries, so I agree with that! I’m not sure what is wrong with Richards but being out of shape is no excuse. I hope he finds his game and quick!

  63. Hags-Step-Call
    Nash-Brassard-Kreider
    Kristo-Richards-Miller
    Haley-Boyle-Dorsett

    (*Assuming Hags and Cally can play at the start of the season)

    Not crazy about this line-up. Really wish they could have afforded Clowe.

    Girardi-McD
    Staal-MDZ
    Moore-McIlrath or Stralman

    Hope something comes up trade or otherwise.

  64. So do I! He was a pretty good scrapper in Juniors and was a decent Dman as well…

  65. If Cally, Hags, and DelZaster needed post season operations, maybe we will see marked improvement when they’re finally healthy.

  66. Matty "HopeNashIsMonsterInYear2"Boy on

    I must admit I was getting worried but when we inked Pouillllllot, I worry no more.

    Quality signing. Quality work.

  67. Seee – Richards’ Lament

    I . . . Who took the money?
    Who took the money away?
    I . . . It’s always showtime
    Here at the edge of the stage
    I, I, I, wake up and wonder
    What was the place, what was the name?
    We wanna wait, but here we go again…

  68. Matty "HopeNashIsMonsterInYear2"Boy on

    Love the fact that everyone on this board that pens our lineup puts Richards on the 2nd or 3rd line. Love it.

    $6.7M for 3rd line center? Nice. Nice.

  69. If McIlrath can play and not be a liability, that gives the Rangers one scrapper. Moore and Staal play physical. Has Staal ever dropped the gloves in the NHL? I can’t recall him ever getting into a scrap. Forwards are pretty soft and offensively challenged.

  70. When you play tough with an edge and don’t drop the gloves, you have to take verbal abuse, but that’s the opposition’s problem. It can drive them crazy.

  71. Olga Folkyerself on

    Ray Lewis had to drop out of the Safari. Claims he shot the giraffe but he did not shoot the chimpanzee.

  72. Matty "HopeNashIsMonsterInYear2"Boy on

    E 3, Rangers in 6 in SC Finals. Realignment, schmealignment. We are THE team everyone fears. And we have Hank.

    And Pouillllllllot.

  73. If the Rangers could nab Kane and Bogosian for MDZ, Hags, and some scrap parts, I would be thrilled. It just doesn’t seem like reality unless Kevin Donnelly is on a ayahuasca bender.

  74. Matty, if a star like Richards is your third line center, then Sir, we are golden.

  75. Ray Lewis turned in his Hummer when he found that it had a tendency to knife going into the corners.

  76. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Rangers west
    Yes, he got his aasen bongo’d on by semin.

    That Staal sure is an intimidating guy!!!

    (S)

  77. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Of course another big tough D man of ours got his aasen kicked by Adam henrique, so Staal shouldn’t feel too bad.

    And that same guy gets abused by lucic and Hartnell and chimera in post whistle scrums constantly but doesn’t need to even attempt to defend himself (and he never does) due to that playable toughness we always have on the roster.

  78. Good morning, boneheads!

    So the first day of FA went well, I think. Mr. Sather didn’t have any money to spend and could only make a few depth signings. I agree with Carp, their bottom 6 is now better than last year’s. The top 6 is a different story. Even if Richards has a rebound year, they still look worse on paper. The good news- it gives an opportunity for someone young to show what they have.
    According to LB, the Rangers never really engaged in serious talks with Clowe. Whether it’s because of their cap situation, or because of his health status is unknown. In any event, for the money, and the length of his contract in NJ he either has to score 25+ goals ( a stretch, considering his struggle last year), or continue to be a physical force, including fighting. I think he can still hit people hard, but whether he’d be willing to fight is a question mark after sustaining a few concussions consecutively last year. Not going after him was a right decision, IMHO.

  79. top 6 is still in need of more skill. cally and hags being out for few weeks/to month hurts the 8-9 game roadtrip to start year. the team will have hard time scoring goals still and as i and some of you including carp stated on the day they traded gabby lets see what happens over 82 games this season with this roster.

    they need to make a trade for another top 6 forward

  80. Only way this team is successful is if Brassard and Kredier emerge as legit, consistent top 6 Fwds. We already know there is chemistry with Step, Cally, and Hags so Id love to see Brass and Kreider with Nash and give them time to make it work together. If Brassard can become Nash’s regular center, out there for all key offensive zone face offs and power plays, and Kreider can score 25 while throwing some big hits, the three of them can be a dangerous line and then we’re talking.

  81. Czechthemout!!! on

    I disagree that they will have trouble scoring. They were hastrung by a pathetic system which stifled offense and beat the crap physically out of every forward, and defenseman,particularly the top six. They were more concerned with blocking shots, than scoring goals,chipping the puck of the damn boards to each other instead of passing it, and doing the ice capades behind the goal while hugging the boards. They never generated anything more than bad angle shots, wrapp arounds, and the occaisional weak wrist shots from the points. Its hard to generate scoring chances when your forwards think they are goalies. This season, I expect each and every player to improve their offensive production significantly, even Boyle will score more than we expect. I think MDZ can finally recaprture the offensive flair he showed his rookie season. He will score 10-15g and 35-40 assists. I think Kreider will score 25-30 goals. Nash will pop in 40. Cally and Hags will score 20+ each. Stepan will get north of 75 points. Brassard gets 20 g 35 a. Richards gets 60 points and still will need to be bought out. Mcd gets 12-15 goals and 25-35 a. Moore will get 10 g 25 a. Staal pops in 8-10 g and 20-25 a. Even Danny G will get 7-10g and 20-30 a.

    Bottom line, I believe this team is capable and will score somewhere in the 240-280 goal vicinity. That will be a significant offensive improvement. If they give up less than 210 goals, they will easily make the playoffs and finish as one the top seeds in the conference.

  82. King with no Ring on

    Czechthemout — —

    I can see the potential for the offense to improve drastically under a new coach. It is not a guarantee, though.

  83. Matty "HopeNashIsMonsterInYear2"Boy on

    The offense should improve. Please understand this is NOT an NHL best offense or defense. This entire team, sans Softy Nash and Softy Boyle is vastly undersized and lacking grit.

    By all rights this team will not be able to defend itself physically, a key part of the game.

    We may get through the regular season but if size and grit is not added (no, a goon does not add this element) we will be beaten up by the many tougher stronger teams in the playoffs.

    I’m hoping the front office is not completely myopic here and is trying to use the pegs they have and find circular holes in which to place them.

    Kane, Byfublien, strong charging, solid players. We need some.

  84. Is there one player that got signed yesterday that anyone said, wow I wish we would have signed him?
    Picking up Bobby Ryan would have been nice, but it would have costed us a lot… The 5-7 year contracts players like Horton, Clarkson and Clowe are only going to lead to cap problems in a few years for these teams

  85. I wouldn’t be happy with any of yesterday’s contracts, CrazyNYR. And they gave up too much for Ryan. Including 1st rounder and Silfverberg, who may end up being a very good offensive player.

  86. Rob at the Jersey Shore on

    Carp was right, it is a good thing Sather was hamstrung by the cap and couldn’t spend any money. Yesterday was a smorgasbord of stupid and we were thankfully on the sidelines.

  87. Rob at the Jersey Shore on

    Henrik Lundqvist @HLundqvist30
    A lot of action around the league.
    It’s July and I’m already exited about next season! #NHL #NYR

    What’s the subtext? IS HANK DEMEANDING A TRADE???

  88. And does anyone know why Anaheim has been trying for a few years to trade a young 30+ goal scorer who is signed to a reasonable contract?

  89. _Only way this team is successful is if Brassard and Kredier emerge as legit, consistent top 6 Fwds._

    Pretty much the key as I see it too. Defense is real good, Hank is Hank and the lower lines have been cleaned up nicely. If those two, who certainly have the skill to play top 6 minutes put it together, we’re in nicer shape that it appears. If not … 7th – 10th.

  90. The Alfreddson move was the biggest shocker. I put Ottawa and Detroit in the same likelihood of winning the cup. Seems sideways at best?

  91. Do you think Kreider’s problem is between his ears? Clearly has the skill set, hoping it was the coach holding him back and that AV can set him free.

  92. Llatonaardvark on

    SeeeDubbb, I read somewhere that Alfredsson felt like Ottawa wasn’t willing to go out and improve the team via free agency or trade to make a push for the cup, while he got indications that Detroit was. He must have thought Ottawa was really committed to the youth movement. Makes you wonder if the Bobby Ryan trade really was planned in advance or if it was reactionary, and if so, Alfredsson knew.

  93. Thanks Llatona, maybe with the addition of Weiss, Detroit is indeed better poised for a run.

  94. Llatonaardvark on

    Detroit was also missing Darren Helm for the playoffs, who is a fantastic lower line player. I know Ottawa had injury issues all season, but I think they were healthy come playoff time.

  95. King with no Ring on

    When is the last instance in which Ottawa was in a similar or better position to win the Stanley Cup than Detroit?

  96. Yeah, I think he missed most of the latter part of the season, he is a spark plug, to me a lot like Cally.

  97. Llatonaardvark on

    Agreed on Helm, SeeDubbb. Cally is more physical but Helm has more speed. Both players I think any team would love to have.

  98. King with no Ring on

    Then why would the move by Alfredsson be considered sideways at best?

    The Red Wings are perennial contenders for the Stanley Cup.

  99. 03-04, pretty close in the standings as well. 02-03 they finished ahead of them in the standings.

    I remember back in 05-06, I hated playing the Sens. They were tough. I think Hasek was in net.

    Anybody remember when Malik threw that huge hit on Spezza, and dazed him? Can’t find that hit anywhere.

  100. Carp @8:02, that post should have effectively stopped this particular blog immediately.

    A perfect summary of the singular lack of progress in making this team competitive franchise on a regular basis.

    If some of our alleged prospects remain suspects we are a lottery team.

    The NY DA’s office should indict Sather for misfeasance with a corn cob!

  101. King with no Ring on

    Can anyone explain why Glen Sather still possesses the title of General Manager of the New York Rangers?

    I am afraid not even James Dolan has the answer to that question.

  102. Gravy, Just Gravy on

    _The 5-7 year contracts players like Horton, Clarkson and Clowe are only going to lead to cap problems in a few years for these teams_

    Or the Kings will trade for them all and win the Cup.

  103. Gravy, Just Gravy on

    There’s a lot you can get on Sather about, but yesterday is not one of them. They did not overpay for any players they signed…and 1 year deals for the three. There’s no one that signed yesterday that I’m upset about, or that I felt Richards prohibited them from getting.

    Maybe Alfredsson for that one year deal would have given them some scoring from RW. Otherwise, there’s not really much else we wouldn’t be killing Sather over if he handed out one of those contracts.

  104. King Ring

    The answer to your question can in large measure be found in the refusal of the hockey media in this market to report, recount, tell the truth about, much less focus, on Sather’s incompetence.

    When Sather can utter the immortal “Every coach has a shelf life” knowing that no one at the other end of the conference call is going to guffaw or spit out his soda or even say a peep in response to the Emperor-without-Clothes? All you need to know about his sense of security and impunity. He wholly disdains the media, which at the same time is desperate to remain on his good side. How’s that for a joke?

  105. King with no Ring on

    Sather could not hand out one of those contracts. He was cap-restrained. He deserves no credit at all for yesterday.

  106. That’s an inaccurate portrayal, Stemmer. Nobody cares about staying on his good side other than Newsday, which is owned by the same company.

  107. Carp

    I respect you and your work and your work ethic implicitly. And you were not to my knowledge on that conference call. I listened to the entire thing, and was stunned by the abject tone of EVERY guy who got on the horn to ask a question.

    When a GM like Sather refuses to meet with the media on anything like a regular basis, and then when he does, everyone treats him like the most generous, wonderful guy for doing so? There is a huge problem.

    A final thought: If you are right that no one cares about staying on his good side, where in God’s name is the piece in the Post, the News, your paper, the Times that details his record of failure across the board? Drafting, free agents, playoff record, etc? How can that be? How do you explain that story never being written?

  108. And I can’t speak for others, but I wrote that story many times over when I was on the beat. So did Larry. And Dellapina. Newsday can’t. I can’t tell you why others don’t.

    The tone on the conference calls is professional, albeit falsely friendly, because the objective is to get an answer, not to be confrontational. You guys forget that we’re not fans. We don’t really give a crap how good or bad the GM is. I certainly don’t.

  109. Gravy, Just Gravy on

    Wouldn’t go as far as to say I was giving Sather credit, but under the constraints, there were no mistakes made.

  110. Far more pressure from the media in Dallas at Nieuwendyk, in Buffalo at Regier (you cannot pick up the Buff News and not see a columnist slamming Regier’s record), in Philadelphia at Homer. To say nothing of what Canadian GMs endure (and should) when they blow at their jobs. Gauthier, Burke, Gillis, Ferguson Jr. The list is endless.

    But in New York? Not a peep. Again, how can that be?

  111. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Morning ILB and all

    Matty
    Couldn’t agree more with your 9:30.
    This team is soft. And like you said it isn’t about a goon, it’s “playable toughness”. Guys like that are hard to find, that why you see Horton, clowe, and clarkson get “larger” or “longer” contracts than what many think they are worth.

    Unless you draft a horton or a lucic or a clowe, they are tough to come by and you normally have to over pay to get them (similar to having to overpay for high scoring players, both are an important quantity)

    I do not think scoring will be an issue with this team.

    I would have done the Ryan deal yesterday in a heartbeat as well as the lapierre contract.

  112. Well, almost zero columnists in NY ever even attend a hockey game or pay attention to the NHL. That’s one thing.

    If I’m not mistaken, a lot of fans here — a lot! — thought Sather’s trade deadline was good, were on board when he signed Richards (not to mention Gaborik, Drury, Gomez, et al), thought the Nash deal was a windfall, thought the hiring and the firing of Torts were good moves, thought yesterday’s inaction was a good thing (whether it was forced or not, they didn’t end up with another bad contract).

    You get the idea. On the whole, his regime has been an unmitigated disaster. Yet he hasn’t done anything, really, of late to warrant a sudden outburst of protest. Has he?

    If so, what?

  113. Good signing getting Pouliot! We’ve paid a lot more in the past to get thirty points.

  114. Ducks with the W. Silfverberg is going to be a star in this league.

    Rangers are shooting par.

  115. Cross Check Charlie on

    Carp, I think that maybe there hasn’t been an outburst of protest because many of the “fans” don’t follow them closely. They go to games and spend more time getting to an from the concessions and fiddling with their cell phones.

    There are more important things for other newspapers to cover like the Yankees, NFL football, the NBA and Tim Tebow. Why write a column about 13 years of futility under Sather when you can discuss whether A-Rod should be back in the lineup or whether Tebow is a legitimate NFLer?

    The Rangers fly under the radar. If they ever win the Cup again then all of the so-called fans will come out of the woodwork. Otherwise, the team and the sport is just above MLS in popularity in the area.

    Or, I could be wrong.

  116. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I looked at the upcoming FA list for next season and I’m not quite sure what all the excitement is about.

  117. czechthemout!!! on

    Iwicky

    I would much sooner dump Boyle and Pyatt than Hags and Mza. The two lttle dudes are tougher and grittier than the two big dufuses. Pkus Hafs is a much sought after asset that can fetch a nice return as part of a packkage or even stand alone. If it were me, I would not trade Hags unless something substantial comes back.

  118. Sather received high marks from me for the following moves:

    1) Drafting Hank, DZ, Stepan, Callahan, Kreider, and Hags.

    2) Signing Torts

    3) Trading Gomez for McDonagh & Prust & Gaborik

    4) Getting Nash

    But, he nearly reversed all of that. For every good move he makes, there is a at least one bad or questionable one.

    ENOUGH MEDIOCRITY!

    SATHER MUST GO!

  119. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Czech
    I think all 4 of those guys you listed are replaceable, and yes I would do that deal in a heartbeat (cap wise it’s a no go unless we are moving a few other pieces for picks somewhere)

    I actually like all 4 players as well and in the proper roles they are all very serviceable.

    That being said if I only had to keep 2 it would be Boyle and Hagar. I think pyatt is effective as a 4th liner and played well in the playoffs for us, but to me it is about cap space and is there a guy in the minors (mashinter for example or Haley) that can do the job as effectively but for half a mil less to put towards another need area.

  120. czechthemout!!! on

    Laserman

    It may take another piece but not much more than those three. Maybe JT Miller ss well. I would do that trade today!

  121. Outstanding analyses by Stemmer, and while Carp has articulated his disdain for the Sather regime on any number of occasions.

    What I am surprised at is his seeming lack of concern about the concept of reporting and interpreting facts whether as a beat reporter or blog columnist.

    Isn’t analysis part of the job? Shouldn’t the professional observer voice both the fans and his/her own angst at the product when there is a consistent theme of treading water.

    E.G. you did exactly this with your condemnation of the Richards situation! and the non buyout!

    I guess what posters are really asking is, what’s the problem with being confrontational if the situation warrants it, obviously in print but also in person?

    While I believe the primary issue is the fan who is willing to spend their money on season tickets, merchandise etc., I do believe the writers in the NY metro area have been cowed over the years by the MSG suits and to some degree are simply resigned to the situation.

    As Thoreau said, “resignation is confirmed desperation”.

    I’d add that while Carp has said that Junior worships Sather, perhaps he could enlighten us as to why?

    Unless as I suspect money not winning is all that matters.

  122. NYR, I’m willing to take a fist in my pooper if I’m wrong, but I’m confident I’m right when I say there’s no way Slats drafted those guys. All he probably said when asked aboot it was grumble “ehh, yeah”

  123. Yeah, can’t give Slats too much credit for drafting. Even a blind squirrel finds a few nuts in it’s lifetime…

  124. Crosscheck, you are on the money, hockey is a second class sport in the media capital of the country.

    A niche sport to be sure except for the core group of passionate fans, and of course the fools who continue to pay the big bucks to “eat” at the same bad restaurant called MSG!

  125. So would I Czech! Byfuglien is a beast that can play both offense and defense! And Evander Kanes best years are in front of him!

  126. I think Slats joins the conversation when NYR gets a 1st overall pick. Then he turns into a chatty Cathy, otherwise he’s just sucking on his unlit cigar, dreaming about how he almost acquired Stamkos.

  127. Carp, IMHO, the non-buyout of Richards combined with the firing of Torts and trading of Gaborik should have spelled the end for Sather’s regime. Especially since the Rangers were conference finalists and the best team in the East only a 15 months ago…

    It’s nauseating to type these facts out…

  128. Carp, “his regime has been an unmitigated disaster, but lately he hasn’t screwed up that much”.

    So why the sudden outpouring of complaints?

    Well it is another disappointing season, it is another ho hum off season, we didn’t have a draft since HE gave away the top three picks, and we still don’t know whether our prospects are for real or simply more suspects.

    Did we miss the announcement that season ticket prices have been reduced?

    I’d say there is much to complain about, but please don’t take it personally! ;)

  129. don’t disagree, NYR, but all three moves were no doubt endorsed by Dolan, who buys every word that Sather spits out. All three were brilliant moves according to those two guys. (and not many others in the organization).

  130. My point, Comn (and I know you can read) … is that nothing that has or hasn’t happened recently has been enough to get a columnist out of Yankee Stadium to write something about hockey. Nor has anything that has or hasn’t happened recently been enough for even you guys to agree upon. In fact, many of you applauded the firing of the coach, the hiring of the new coach, the non-spending spree. A few even thought it was a good idea to give Richards another season, many (although not the day it happened) think the Gaborik trade was a good one. Everybody thought the Clowe trade was a good one. What am I missing?

  131. Why did Torts really get fired? I’ll tell you why. It doesn’t point to player mutiny.

    Sather and Torts clashed with each other. Torts admitted it on the radio the other day. Sather felt like the style Torts plays couldn’t win a Cup. He decided that that a more offensive style was needed with *this* cast of players.

    The thing is…if you agree with the firing of Tortorella then you must also must agree with Mr. Sather’s logic. Yikes.

  132. Look at all your line ups. Common thread we have a bottom 1/3 line up of forwards. Better than avg defense and a very good goalie. Small and no toughness. No where near a contender, way closer to missing the playoffs. A whole lot of this could have been solved if Richards was bought out. A giant screw you from Dolan n Sather to the fans. They just pretend they want to win, they really don’t care. Disgraceful Organization.

  133. Frank Rizzo on

    ORR, LOL!! “fist in my Popper” I fell out of my chair laughing at that one!

  134. The last two years the Rangers went to the conference finals and the conference semis. One of two teams in the NHL to win a playoff round each year.

    If Sather is so bad, what does that say about most of the other GMs?

    Sather was terrible his first few years here, but has done a reasonable job over the last nine, starting with the deadline dumps in 2004.

    People complain about drafting, well we’ve drafted Staal, DZ, Hagelin, Callahan, Duvinsky, Anisimov, Stepan, Hank, Krieder and traded for McDonagh, signed Grardi and so on. That’s not a bad record.

    Sather may not be GM of the year every year, but the Rangers have built a solid foundation to compete in the playoffs year after year, and that’s about all fans can rightfully ask for.

  135. The problem with Dolan IMHO is that he views the Rangers as more of a hobby than a business! And as long as he makes a bit of money here and there than he is happy. If you look at Detroit and Chicago, for example, the owners show a lot more interest in the daily dealings of their franchises and have more say when it comes to trades or roster issues. Just saying!

  136. though, from what little I have seen and heard from Dolan, it’s way more than a hobby. He just doesn’t understand it, and he was forever hoodwinked on June 1, 2000.

  137. In that respect you would know way more than I as you have been around the man! As an outsider it makes you wonder though!

  138. Bob Bullsheetskiy on

    @TSNBobMcKenzie #NYR trade Kreider Del Zotto to #PHX for Yandle. Trade call pending

  139. Sather got rid of the 1st round picks because he got Nash. You can’t have both. Would you rather have had the 1st rounder or Nash?

  140. Haha! Carp, I went back to the thread right before the one you posted. Here were some the reactions right as the Gaborik trade was announced:

    Manny
    I’m throwing up all over myself.

    April 3rd, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    NYR_FAN
    What the hell?

    April 3rd, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    LW3H
    Must be one of CBJ’s firsts coming back.

    April 3rd, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    James G
    Tell me these idiots traded a 40 goal scorer for nothing of equal value and acquired a forward that hasnt scored a goal this year…Gaby should refuse

    April 3rd, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Doodie Machetto
    honestly, I feel sick. this is one of the worst trades I have ever, EVER seen.

    April 3rd, 2013 at 2:43 PM

  141. Since I live in London On. I was thrilled when they made the Nash deal! Nash WILL be a good Ranger! Losing 3 draft picks for a rental I’m not so thrilled about!

  142. Cross Check Charlie on

    “I guess what posters are really asking is, what’s the problem with being confrontational if the situation warrants it”

    It’s simple. As a writer or broadcaster you want to get an answer. If you get confrontational then you get hung up on during a conference call. Do you really think Sather is going to stay on the phone and answer tough questions? No, he’ll just call an end to the conference call, hang up and say screw ‘em I’m going to go play golf.

  143. Carp, You say that most people agreed with the Clowe trade, but the problem with that rationale is you are speaking of some on this blog.

    Did you agree with it?

    As to the never ending Sather dialogue, some fans here seem to think Sather had a brainstorm when he acquired McDonagh.

    Sather’s principal acquisition in that deal was for Chris Higgins which of course was another bad deal.

    McDonagh was a throw in because then Habs mgmt. were disappointed with his progress.

    As for Lundqvist draft “credit” in the 7th. round, absurd.

    Gaborik obtained and discarded it what may turn out to be Sather’s best deal especially if J.Moore pans out, see the blind squirrel again!

    When judging anything and anyone there is only one way to do so, the entire body of work.

    In Sather’s case it sucks and the only thing I truly would disagree with you about is your comment that Dolan does not consider it a “hobby but simply doesn’t understand it”.

    The “hobby” is making money and this he understands quite well, while more importantly he understands that you can fool most of the fans most of the time and ring the register non stop!

  144. Last season, Brass was desperately needed at C. Dorsett served his purpose and played well within that purpose, and Moore’s absence would have afforded more ice time to slugs like Hamrlik. Nash kept the interest alive. Clowe trade turned into bad luck. However, keeping Richards could be the death blow. Enough with floaters unless one gives us a guaranteed annual 40.

  145. I’ll take a belt of borscht, or a Borscht Belt, so long as the Cats aren’t killed.

  146. Matty "HopeNashIsMonsterInYear2"Boy on

    Paul @ 2:19, is that a ‘paid for by Sather defense’ comment?

    Are you for real?

    Need anyone go into the 13 fruitless years this blundering waste has been in charge of this glorious franchise with line by line explanation? Botched trades, overpaid FA’s, buyouts galore???? Poor drafts?????

    Just for starters, my friend, the team made it 2 rounds last year and 3 the year before on the backs of two people whose names are not even close to Sather. 2 years ago, the coach, yes the recently fired coach, got the most out of a ragged poorly constructed bunch that had, at best, 2.5 offensive lines. Henrique was also world class. Need we describe one of the best coaching jobs ever in this franchise? Do you recall that prior to the season no one even thought the team would make the PO’s? Where you watching?

    With Richards playing like a shell of himself, Gaborik asking out and gone, but also underperforming, this past year was as well, stunning, but only 2 rounds. Again, ineptly, this team is 2.5 lines deep while others around it have 4 plus (see Boston, Chicago, Pitt, you know, the good teams with real GM’s) lines, and again, it was Hank and to a lesser degree the now fired coach.

    It will be fun to see what AV can do with this poorly put together roster featuring a whole bunch of 7 and 8 D-men and a top 4 that can’t clear and is small by league standards. It will be fun to see what a top 6 on O does with a non 1st line center and lacking true elite talent and grit. It seems there may be more depth on lines 3 and 4 including a $6.67M center that has proven he is done, but wasn’t bought out.

    You can plug in 6 coaches over 13 years and blame them all you want with imprudent lines like “we didn’t win the cup, so he’s gone, that’s my measuring stick”, but, ultimately, the gun barrel has to be pointed inward, not out.

    Most anything this team has accomplished over these 13 years was not him alone, but the destruction, lack of talent, lack of cohesive drafting until 2008 (when he replaced himself with a better draft mind), lack of grit, size and skill, lack of game plan, lack of hardware (aka the CUP), is all on him.

    At some point it would be nice if he, too, was held accountable. Everyone around him has over and over and over again.

  147. Sather’s Lament to the Press

    ‘Call me irresponsible
    Call me unreliable
    Throw in undependable, too

    Do my foolish alibis bore you?
    Well, I’m not too clever,
    I just abhor you.’

  148. Matty "HopeNashIsMonsterInYear2"Boy on

    Laserman@2:50,

    There have been a hole slew of bad moves by this particular GM. The Clowe move, given the lack of research there must have been, is his worst.

    The ONLY reason a trade like this is made in the first place is to bring your team ‘over the top’. I must be missing something. Were we close to the top? Were we even CLOSE to Boston, Pitt or Chicago????

    He must be delusional.

    To give away 3 picks, 2 in a deep draft is horrifying for a rental when you shouldn’t be doing a rental in the first place.

  149. Bob Bullsheetskiy on

    What is this? Writer competition blog here? Each post is 10 mile long! If we post like this in Soviet Union, we be shoveling snow in Siberia in no time! Oy!

  150. ThisYearsModel on

    Is PAUL a relative of Glen Sather?

    How anyone can defend his tenure here is beyond me. He has been an utter failure as Ranger GM. Now he is making a last-ditch effort to save his legacy. Happily, he has been cured of prostate cancer. Thank goodness.

    However, as the CARPster has noted, he has also pulled hard on the reins of the organization and is making all the decisions again. Looking back, he should have been canned BEFORE the 2004 lockout. We were the NHL’s laughingstock thanks to Slats. Since then…..still no finals or no cup. If I performed in my job like he did in his, I would have been unemployed long ago. Yet, the only place he takes any grief for his failures at all is in the Canadian press. I don’t see anyone in the local press calling him out or holding him accountable.

    so PAUL, tell Uncle Slats we all said hello and that he should enjoy his retirement…….starting ASAP.

  151. Agreed Matty! My wife cringes every time I bring up hockey as she knows it won’t be too long before I sound like a raving lunatic!

  152. It’s Saturday already? Damn, when you’re independently wealthy, you lose track of time.

  153. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    What a great great signing by the blues, we missed the boat big time on this one

    There are big deals during the Free Agent Frenzy, and then there are the smaller, quieter deals that serve to build up a roster or fill a need.
    So while none of these signings were on the Daniel Alfredsson or Nathan Horton level, we might look back at them being some of the smartest of the 2013 Frenzy.
    Here are five underrated signings from July 5:
    Pierre-Marc Bouchard, New York Islanders
    One year and $2 million for instant offense? OK then. There are always going to be health concerns for Bouchard, and his points per game have dropped in each of the last two seasons. But keep in mind his role changed a bit in Minnesota, especially last season. One could easily see him become a P.A. Parenteau type on a line with John Tavares, in which case $2 million will be a steal. Lighthouse Hockey has the fancy stats analysis.
    Boyd Gordon, Edmonton Oilers
    Gordon has been one of the most underrated defensive forwards in the NHL for the last two seasons with the Phoenix Coyotes. He’s aces on faceoffs – 57.3 percent last season. He blocks shots, kills penalties, can take and deliver a hit. He’s never going to win the Selke, because they don’t give it to guys like him, but he’s deserved to be in the conversation the last two seasons. His $9 million over three years is a little high, but it’s Edmonton, so they have to overpay. A great pickup for the Oilers and the kind of foundational grunt teams need to win.
    Matt Cullen, Nashville Predators
    He’s 36 but doesn’t play like it, using his speed and hustle to be a difference maker at the center spot. He’s also a character guy, hence the reason why the Predators were attracted to him. No, he’s not a No. 1 center and yes, Dirk Hoag’s right that he played above his head a bit last season with the Minnesota Wild. But at 2 years and $7 million, I don’t see the Predators regretting this one.
    Anton Khudobin, Carolina Hurricanes
    Teams don’t need to spend over a million on a backup goalie, especially when the starter eats up considerable salary. So good on the Carolina Hurricanes for bringing in Anton Khudobin from the Boston Bruins at one year and just $800,000, which is less than what he made last season. That’s a solid goalie with some untapped potential, taking a pay cut with Carolina. Jim Rutherford, thy pimp hand be strong.
    Maxim Lapierre, St. Louis Blues
    Choke down the bile, Blues fans, and realize that Lapierre is a gritty player with some, uh, unique gifts. When given a role to play, he attacks it with fervor, and the Blues know what they want out of the guy. If there’s a better fit between player and style of play in the Frenzy, we haven’t seen it.
    From Lapierre himself: “I’m a guy that likes to win and I wanted to play on a team that fits well with the type of player I am. St. Louis is a team that has good defense and is physical and that’s a good fit for me.”
    For $1.1 million annually for two years, it’s low risk and really, really, really annoying reward. Oh man, the Blackhawks can’t be happy with this …

  154. Dolan, Sather, and Torts all agreed that the Press is a necessary evil. Torts never understood the necessary part.

  155. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Also if the rumours are true about mcdonut’s contract being 4.5 to 5 mil per, that is too much imho

  156. McDonuts is one of the few who actually improves every year. And now, he might finally get chances to net some pucks. He should have had Richards’ spot on the PP all of last year.

  157. McD will celebrate with a grilled cheese sandwich and a Diet Coke. Might crack a smile before late afternoon nap.

  158. Five Park Rangers are hanging from ropes spraying deodorant under Lady Liberty’s armpit.

  159. USA Today Sports Tweet ———>

    How come nothing exciting ever happens at MSG?

  160. “@TSNBobMcKenzie #NYR trade Kreider Del Zotto to #PHX for Yandle. Trade call pending”

    Cray-cray! Almost got me. I almost dookied myself.

    Wish the Rangers had landed Ryan instead of Nash. Oh well.

  161. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    McDonut for 6 or 7 years, 4 mil per is about right for a young fast skating vanilla D man with not a lot if bite to his game and some offencive upside

  162. McD’s primary objective is to not give up position; it isn’t to give fans a jolt by creaming someone behind the net and losing that positioning. Gees, some people would rather see a Bickel crush a forward than to see the puck kept out of the net.

  163. Cross Check Charlie on

    cooscoos – I agree. There’s too much of “so what if a guy scores goals, if he isn’t plastering people he’s no good.”

  164. Coos, you think McD had a better year this past season or the season before?

    He looked mighty tired at the end of the year and the playoffs.

    I believe what people expect from a guy who is 6’1″ and 220 is a little more hitting and one could say the same for Krieder.

    Wicky, were you serious with the years and dollars in your post, especially with the “vanilla” comment?

  165. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I’d love to see a post that said “if he isn’t plastering people he isn’t any good” lol

    Are you guys sober when you post. It’s quite comical.

  166. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Comn
    Yes re vanilla, yes re contract and years.

    Is mcdonut head and shoulders above our other two vanilla D men that make 3-4 mil per?

  167. More Mc, but he does not score goals to the extent that he is considered an offensive threat.

    While he appears to have that potential so does Staal, but along with MDZ and Stralman I don’t see the big difference in their offensive skills.

    And lest we forget the biggest need is still for size and toughness on D, a condition not addressed thus far.

  168. Cross Check Charlie on

    “I’d love to see a post that said “if he isn’t plastering people he isn’t any good” lol”

    You haven’t seen multiple posts lambasting Nash because he doesn’t take the body enough?

    You’re pretty comical yourself Wicky.

  169. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Ccc
    I thought we were talking mcdonut (at least I was), I wasn’t talking about Nash

    But, yes, Nash needs to be more physical

  170. Cross Check Charlie on

    No, Nash doesn’t need to be more physical. He needs to score goals. That’s his job description.

  171. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    The amusing thing to me is guys like mcdonut who have size and don’t use it effectively can’t be criticized for it but Boyle or pyatt, who get lambasted here continually for not plastering people every shift, suck?

    The double standard amuses me greatly.

    I get the they contribute in other ways thing and different players have different playing styles issue.
    That is fine, but it isn’t like mcdonut (or the rest of our vanilla D) exactly light it up on the score board when they aren’t too busy sliding around in penguin fashion on the ice or beat up by semin or henrique!!

    None of our D men really excel at anything other than snow angels thus I consider them vanilla.

  172. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    So when he isn’t scoring he doesn’t need to do anything else?

    Ok, that’s fine if you want one dimensional players. Me, not so much.

  173. Llatonaardvark on

    wicky, I mentioned it the other day, but my idea of a physical player is someone who puts his body into a board battle rather than reaching in with his stick i.e. Richards. You don’t always have to go for the big hit, although I think every team needs a few guys like that. McDonagh has such tactical understanding and awareness on the ice to go along with his skating that I think if he were to increase his willingness to take the body even just a little bit his game would increase exponentially.

  174. Physicality is a part of the game and if you don’t have the balls to play chippy at times then you aren’t a complete player. Simple as that.

    To me (as day four of my debate w Lyova is about to continue) everybody better hit if they want to play but especially if you’re a dman you better be willing to throw your body and get nasty. Doesn’t matter
    If you are an offensive dman or a defensive style dman. You’re a defender and to defend aka be the last line of defense between your goalie and the opponent you better be willing to sacrifice and be down right punishing to prevent chances. That’s why guys like Stralman and Del Zotto make me sick when you watch a replay of the opponent scoring and you see them reaching w ther stick trying to prevent a pass/shot while falling down or screening the goalie instead of mowing down a guy in Hanks crease. It’s not about ability
    Sometimes just willingness.

  175. There’s a good reason you don’t see Dmen contemptuously clearing the crease like the old days. Rules have changed. You can try to fight for and maintain position, but you cannot chop, viciously cross-check, mug, and drive the other guy to the ice anymore unless you want to spend your life in the cat box. It’s a new game.

  176. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Coos
    Agree on the new game, but you can still move them from their position in front of your goalie, you can hit them in open ice while they have the puck, and you can hit them along the boards when they have the puck. It’s not all about snow angels and stick checking, it is still a contact sport called hockey!

  177. And, as you get deep into the playoffs, the rules seem to change and you had better get tough, quick.

  178. ‘quickly’ is the adverb, but ‘quick’ sounds better in this situation. :)

  179. And that snow angel stuff is worthless. It’s like trying to outrun a close bullet that’s already passed.

  180. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Coos
    You are correct about the playoffs as well. Time and space go away with a lot of the rules. You have to be big tough and mean.

  181. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Yes, it is worthless. I wonder how many goals we could prevented over the pass few seasons if we

    A) hadn’t taken ourselves out of position by sliding across the ice

    B) hadn’t screened our all-world goalie from seeing the puck with our own players

    C) had actually hit the opposing player and separated him from the puck somewhere between our blueline and the top of the face-off circles

  182. Especially when you collapse on the goalmouth and then poke check and then faint like St. Theresa of Avila.

  183. Dmen must hit?

    I don’t recall Leetch or James Patrick doing much hitting.

    So of course there’s a difference in how one defends and McDonagh is a technical D as is Girardi both doing a very good job of it.

    The discussion now and in the past is the Rangers have neither developed or acquired D’men who can physically punish.

    Phaneuf, Weber, Chara Pronger etc. and while these names are high draft picks, this organization has not been able to find even one by any means………….in 13 years and counting!

    Anymore than they have been unable to find legitimate power forwards, unless through free agency?

    Puzzle me this, without free agency would this organization be above .500 since Sather’s arrival?

  184. I think we all agree that it is long past time for Sather to turn over the wheel to his talented lieutenants.

  185. If the Rangers would have bought out Richards, who would the money been spent on? Lecav?

  186. Coos, and who would be those “talented Lieu’s”?

    Maybe he should turn it over to his privates……………wait hasn’t that been the way he’s been making decisions all along?

    Maybe that’s why he’s so crotch-ety!

  187. CrazyNyr, Richards did not contribute much in any case so it could have been a double savings.

    Giving one of our vaunted prospects an opportunity plus actually saving money, unless waste is still the hallmark of the organization!

  188. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Comn
    You bring up a good point.

    But I do wonder about our draft pick positioning. I brought this up a few days ago, we are normally in double digit position in the draft rounds.

    We never suck bad enough to get in the single digits or in the single digits 3 or 4 years in a row (hello Edmonton) to get the really established can’t miss players (well mostly can’t miss players).

    We are just never bad enough.

    I know there have been some draft mistakes by us, but almost every draft after the first few guys seems to be a bit more of a crapshoot and need filling by teams as opposed to players head and shoulders above others going around the same time in the draft.

    There are several definite misses in hindsight, but when it’s happening it usually isn’t that that much of a discrepancy between the draftees.

  189. I understanding bringing in a prospect, but right now I dont think we have a prospect that is better than Richards at center. Plus he does have the experience of going far in the playoffs and winning the cup… give him 1 more year, he knows whats at stake so it is like a contract year for him… let him help develop the future like Drury did with Cally and see how it goes…

  190. Wick, in every sport it’s not always about getting the best picks, it’s also being able to identify talent and needs.

    I continue to mention the success of the Pens at identifying D men whom they are then able to trade for the likes of Kunitz and Neal, or finding an Engeland and others.

    Drafting, trading and free agency are all components of organizational success.

    Redundant yes, but how is it possible that this organization can’t unearth one physical D in 13 years?

    The question remains, without the fortuitous 7th. round throwaway pick, would this organization be .500 during the Sather reign?

    T.Hesburgh once said,”the very essence of leadership is that you have a vision. You can’t blow an uncertain trumpet”!

    Does anyone see this description fitting Dolan, MSG and the hirelings running both the Rangers and the Knicks?

  191. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    I loved the Gabby and Clowe trades. If Clowe doesn’t get concussed, we beat the Bruins. Our season ended when he got hurt.

    I am happy Torts was fired. Thus, this past year Sather did ok by me.

  192. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Comn
    Agree about the picks.

    Eddie x 3
    I agree about clowe and the bruins series.

  193. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Wicky – dumping Richards to keep Clowe was the smarter move. It sickens me that we finally got him – then let him walk.

    I also agree with your comments regarding physical play. The entire team needs to buy into the finish your checks motif. Every shift, every game. That is team toughness.

  194. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Chim chimney, chim chimney, chim chim charoo, good luck will rub off when I shake hands with you…

  195. Mertonian Norm on

    Hated, hated, hated the my-way-or-the-highway Gaborik trade, swore I’d stop watching until Torts got fired, caved. Hated it then, hate it now, though there’s nothing to be done about it other than to wish NYRangers West good luck as their team continues to improve. Thought the Clowe trade was almost as bad, glad the Devils are stuck with him now that’s he’s a many-times-concussed plodder.

    That said, the two signings Friday make the team marginally better, but now it’s a wish and a prayer that the 2005 5th pick and the 2006 6th pick suddenly become elite players, like the 2000 3rd pick. Perhaps with a hockey coach replacing the roller derby coach, they’ll do it.

  196. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Norm – gabby will be lucky to sniff 25 goals ever again. Brassard will outscore him next year.

  197. Mertonian Norm on

    Hey, Eddie, guess who’s a better hockey player, Gaborik or Brassard? Did you notice your use of the word “again”? I’m a Rangers fan, but I’m not an idiot.

  198. Smith deserves more credit for hank being drafted than sather, it was smith’s head European scout he brought over from Detroit (and was with the team until 2010).

    That being said, think Maloney deserves most of the blame for jessiman, a player he personally scouted while Hugh was still in high school. That pick was never going to work out.

    Both happened on sather’s watch and really we are still suffering from that 2003 draft. Reason enough that he shouldn’t still have the job. And that’s not even bringing up the horrible trades before the lockout (and the clowe trade) and ufa disaster after ufa disaster

  199. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Norm – bobby Orr was better than MDZ, but these days…. Not so much – catch my drift?

  200. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Aaron Hernandez didnt shoot anyone in the face today. Going on 3 weeks now. This is the longest that he’s gone without popping a cap in someone’s assen since he was a pre-teen.

  201. I know a dark secluded place.
    A place where no one knows your face.
    It’s called Hernandez’ Hideaway.
    Ole.

  202. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Kooz – never get in a car at 3am with Aaron Hernandez and two gangsters….

  203. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Chris Weidman just KO’ed brutha Silva # UFC. I was rooting for him, but it looked like a fix….

  204. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    I still cant figure out how Aaron Hernandez was caught…#perfect crime.

  205. bull dog line on

    comnsnse,
    I am a little late to the discussion, but, James Patrick threw one of the more famous hits in Ranger history. he destroyed Pat LaFontaine in the 90 playoffs. knocking him out, and causing on of the more famous brawls between the Rangers and Islanders. Patrick could also throw them, though he did not all that often. one I remember was against Dave Poulin during a bench clearer. he let Poulin have it twice during that one.

  206. bull dog line on

    Leetch, while not considered a physical player, took the body very well. he was certainly not a stick checker. he did what needed to be done.

  207. Can we get a fresh thread? Impossible to scroll through this one on mobile. The blog is super slow and lags all the time…

  208. todays ny post brooksie saying zuccarello could be gone because of the pouliot signing.

  209. In the NY Post, Larry Brooks writes that the Rangers signing of Benoit Pouliot could signal the end of Mats Zuccarello’s time with the Rangers.

    He writes that Pouliot is bigger, a better skater and skated in the top six with Tampa Bay last season. More importantly, the Rangers may not have enough salary cap space for Zuccarello with the money that they will need to use to sign Ryan McDonagh, Derek Stepan and Carl Hagelin.

    Brooks says that Zuccarello is in the salary range of $1.3 million and that is the amount of money the team just committed to Pouliot.

  210. Remember, we are in year 4 of the ‘youth movement’. Everything according to plan, like clockwork!

    What a team! What a coach!! What a GM!

    We want cup!!!we want cup!!

  211. appears sather is looking to low ball Zuccarella with all we have left is 800k, if you want to play in the nhl with the rangers that is all I can give you because of the cap nonsense.

  212. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Sounds like brooks has been reading my comments

    Blues might need to move a player after the Roy signing, oshie? Perron? Stewart anyone?

    I’d take Stewart personally

  213. Llatonaardvark on

    I’d take Oshie. He’s another Callahan – love him. Stewart is big but I don’t remember him standing out with hits, whereas I can picture Oshie wrecking someone.

  214. Re: Patrick and Leetch. A few incidents in two long careers do nothing to change the gist of my comment about both our current D who are finesse D albeit with good technical skills, or the need for size and toughness which we do not have.

    Nor does anything change the fact the the Boob in charge and his staff have been unable to unearth one in 13 years!

    As for Zucc, he needs to play for a team that lacks what he brings, i.e. specialist duties as a PP guy and a shootout threat.

    This is not that team, nor can they afford him for those duties!

  215. so where is that big Rangers trade everyone was talking about? Do i have time to make a cup a coffee? :)

  216. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Bulldog – Leetch was also good with the hip check. True he wasn’t a drop your gloves guy, but he was far too valuable to take 5 minute majors. The rangers had plenty of other guys during his tenure that could and would go….

  217. One time I was at a road game, Leetch was injured and riding up to the pressbox in an elevator with me and Darren Langdon. The elevator stops at the concourse and a couple of home fans get on, drunk. One of them says to Leetch, “I know you; you’re not so tough.” Leetch smiles and says, “Do you know this guy? Because when I’m with this guy, I don’t have to be very tough.”

  218. Wait…so does this mean Pouliot is top 6, possibly first line material?

    BARF!

  219. Well…that’s where he’s been playing…and he can score and make plays…he certainly doesn’t have to play the top two lines, but it doesn’t make sense to have him on a checking line…

    Puoliot is just another disappointing (yet serviceable) 1st rounder who hasn’t lived up to his scouting report….

    If you don’t like Zucc for whatever reason that’s fine, but he can skate circles around Pouliot and has more skill…

  220. i didn’t say i don’t like Zucc.. i like him! But, every time something happens with this team, you bring Zucc up and blow him so big that he’s about to pop! LOL

    You need to come down back to earth, man…that’s all i’m sayin’

  221. King with no Ring on

    If Zuccarello is a second line forward, then the team is not going to score many goals.

    He has skill, but he is not a difference maker, nor is Pouliot.

  222. King with no Ring on

    CCCP — —

    That is what homer fans do. They blow up every player that they have a hard-on for. Zuccarello is not a savior.

  223. _Zucc is still the best power-play player they have on the roster, sad as that may be._

    that doesn’t say much! LOL

    _Find me someone else who plays like Zucc and I’ll chill!_

    The way Zucc plays? What way is that? Being thrown around like a rag-doll? Yup…not too many players like that :P

  224. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Carp – I think Brassard proved to be better on the PP… To me anyway….

  225. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    I haven’t checked yet, but did Aaron Hernandez murder anyone last night?

  226. ‘You come in here with a skull full of mush and you leave sounding like a sportswriter.’

  227. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Mr. Hart, here’s a dime, take it and call your mother. Tell her there is serious doubt as to you becoming a lawyer”

  228. e, Jay Osborne, writer of the novel ‘Paper Chase,’ as a frosh at Harvard Law, realized that absolutely everyone there that he talked to was far more intelligent than he, and he worried that he would wash out. He ended up graduating first in his class, out of fear. :)

  229. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hart: Kingsfield, you are a SOB.

    Kingsfield: you may take your seat. That was the brightest thing you’ve said all day

  230. Good afternoon all! The problem with Zucc IMHO is that he didn’t fit into Tort’s style of play! He has all the tools judging from his time and success in the Swedish Elite league but hasn’t been able to utilize that skill in the NHL so far. I’d love to see how he plays under AV…

  231. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Brilliant novel, brilliant screenplay, brilliant movie….a friend of mine does work at Bottoms’ place down in big sur….

  232. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    The problem with zucchini is that he gets knocked off the puck to easy and he isn’t strong on the puck. Big heart, no doubt…. But he is too tiny…

  233. Kingsfield: “Mr Bell, what do you think of Mister O’Connor’s argument?”

    Bell: “I’m sorry, what?”

  234. His size definitely works against him but he is a decent passer with a good shot when he can get out of traffic. Bit of a mean streak too, but that normally led to some bad penalties. I’d still would think there might be enough upside to his game to give him another try…

  235. “They got little baby legs
    That stand so low
    You got to pick em up
    Just to say hello
    They got little cars
    That go beep, beep, beep
    They got little voices
    Goin’ peep, peep, peep
    They got grubby little fingers
    And dirty little minds
    They’re gonna get you every time
    Don’t want no short people ’round here.”

  236. A lawyer starts his career giving $20,000 worth of advice for $200, and ends his career giving $200 worth of advice for $20,000.

  237. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    William moss, tutor: so you flunked all your practice exams, huh? Every one?

    Kevin Brooks: yeah, every one.

  238. All kidding aside I still think Zucc could be an effective forward with us…

  239. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Kingsfield: mr. Hart, would you recite for us the facts of Hawkins versus McGee? I do have your name right? You are Mr. Hart?

  240. Little Zucc could fit in if we had all the other pieces in place, and tossed Richy.

  241. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Brooks wife: hart, could you come over, Kevin is not doing well…

  242. “I have a photographic memory and was always first in my class.”

    “Doesn’t work here.”

  243. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “deeper, please”

    MZA – “I’m given all that I can, darling”

  244. Zucc to DelZ: “I think that bartender just whispered that we look like cavemen. What’s his problem?”

  245. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “I know no one suspects anything if we are roommates at home and on the road, but shouldn’t we have more than one queen bed?”

  246. Zucc to MDZ “Whats Torts’ cell number?”

    MDZ “I dont know, he never gave it to me”

  247. Zucc to MDZ “Torts asked me if i want to walk the dogs with him. I said, yes. I didnt know i was gonna be the one with the leash”

  248. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “I’m in love, so happy that we’ve found each other”

    MZA – “don’t say another word sweet angel”

  249. Ray Lewis to Chad Ochocinco: ‘Do you have Aarons cell number?’

    ‘I think it’s 981.”

  250. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “look, there’s Tom Cruise”

    MZA – “he better not be checking you out”

    MDZ – “no worries, darling. I’m a one man man”

  251. Del Z to Zucc: “You want to tell me about the Tom Cruise thing?”

    “He said he would put me in the movies, lying bastard!”

  252. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “should we go out tonight?”

    MZA – “you mean come out, don’t you?”

  253. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “why do people think strange things just because we vacation and shower together?”

  254. ‘Mind if I use your shower cap? Water hits my hair, it makes it all clean-looking.’

  255. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “why is it you subscribe to all these glossy magazines showing men running in tight shorts?”

    MZA – “for the same reason, you have every NY Dolls CD”

  256. Z: If I don’t get re-signed, I’m thinking of law school.”

    “You’ll have to study Torts.”

  257. Zucc: “I”m tired of these flaming blintz waffle crudites for breakfast. Didn’t you bring any Cheerios?”

  258. They have everything for you men to enjoy,
    You can hang out with all the boys …

    It’s fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.

  259. You can get yourself clean, you can have a good meal,
    You can do whatever you feel …

  260. If he just doesn’t fit on this team (one could make the agrument that the Rangers suck and his skills would be wasted) I’d love to see Zucc go to Tampa or Detroit and play with skill guys…he is fun to watch.

  261. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Too bad you couldn’t put zucchini’s heart and soul into Boyle’s body…..

  262. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “what movie do you want to watch?”

    MZA – “something with rock Hudson”

  263. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “lets play the Scientology game”

    MZA – “I get to be be travolta, this time”

  264. If I were Johnny Rivers, I would name my kid either Hudson or Tigrisandeuphrates.

  265. ‘Secret Agent Man – they’ve given you a number and taken ‘way your name.

  266. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    HudsonANDeast rivers : want to meet my old man?

    What’s his name?

    My old man’s name is old man!

  267. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “I just love Katy Perry”

    MZA – “I’ll take John Mayer”

  268. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “you’re a Fire work”

    MZA – “light my fuse, tiger”

  269. DelZ to Carp: “I don’t care that you didn’t participate, it’s YOUR blog!”

  270. DelZ to eddie3X: “You wanna fight?”

    eddie: “Not right now, actually.”

  271. Nilan to Carp” “What’s up with those two fools on your blog?”

    “Gee, Chris, there are multiple dozens. Oh, you mean eddie and coos.”

  272. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “carp, what wrong with eating Weiners”

    MZA – “Weiners? That’s plural…. Who is he?”

  273. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “Weiner for Mayor”

    MZA – “he’s got my vote, sugar”

  274. Zucc to MDZ: “You know that new kid McIlrath is pretty cute. What say we bumrush him?”

  275. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “Duguay is pretty”

    MZA – “I’ll take Hank any day”

  276. MZA – “Doogie’s makin’ about 150 grand. What’s that gonna do me?”

  277. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MZA – “what did they find on the end of rock Hudson’s unit during the autopsy?”

    MDZ – “I love this one… Tell me again, tiger”

    MZA – “Gomer’s Pyle”

    MDZ – “well, they were married”

  278. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MZA – “hank better stay a ranger”

    MDZ – “is it something I said?”

  279. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “are you hungry”

    MZA – “starving”

    MDZ – “feast on this”

  280. Hank, after DELZ’s fourth ice angel resulting in goal: “My baby kept me up all night.”

  281. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “what’s black and blue and red all over”

    MZA – “spank me again, you devil”

    MDZ – “was I traded?”

  282. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “blow out the candle”

    MZA – “it’s not my birthday”

    MDZ – “that’s ok, it’s not a candle, either”

  283. MZA: “You think if I started doing that Tie Domi stuff, I could stick around?”

  284. DelZ to Chris Nilan: I you can guess how much this gold necklace around my neck weighs, I’ll give you a great big kiss.”

    Nilan: Yeah, I’ll take a guess 20,000 pounds.”

    DelZ: “Well, that’s close enough.”

  285. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MZA – “should we ride the train?”

    MZA – “I’ll do a non-stop on you choo-choo”

  286. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MDZ – “not sure about gold, but I’m wearing a pearl necklace”

  287. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Aaron Hernandez might score another TD, but VD is certainly possible.

  288. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez – “hey Tom Brady, Im open, shoot me a bullet”

    Brady – “uhhhhh, what?”

  289. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Brady – “do we have a bomb in the play book?”

    Hernandez – “I’ve got 8 glocks”

  290. If Hernandez had any compassion or humanity, he would have just just locked the guy in a box and left him in his garage.

  291. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez – “look, someday he would have died anyway… What’s the big deal?”

  292. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez’s cell mate “I’d kill to be a free man”

    Hernandez “yeah, if I were free, I’d kill a man”

  293. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez – “the gun was in my hand – and it just went off, 5 times… Total accident”

  294. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez’s broker – “but low sell high”

    Hernandez – aim low, shoot high”

  295. Ranger bloggers all over the world, to wives: “Check the Rangers Report and see if those two goofy extraterrestrials have gone back to their own planet yet.”

  296. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Prosecutor – where were you the night Lloyd Odin was killed?”

    Hernandez – “I was shooting him at the park”

    Defense attorney – “objection”

    Judge – “on what grounds”

    Defense attorney – “stupidity, your honor”

    Judge – “sustained”

  297. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    If Hernandez were calling signals :

    45, 38, 44, 22….. Shotgun formation……

  298. I’ll get them back. “When in hell are we going to get some size, talent, shooting ability, grit along the boards, crease-clearing, no too many men on the ice penalties, a cheaper goaltender, cold beer, and competent management?”

  299. Brady in locker-room to Hernandez: “When I said cut the cards, I didn’t mean…”

  300. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez – look, I’ve only killed 5,6,7… I don’t know… A lot of people….doesn’t make me a bad person”

  301. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez – “oh you said split wide… I thought you said split him in half”

  302. Donna Shalala to Miami coach: “Are we recruiting crazed killers now?”

    Coach: “Only if they can play.”

  303. Coos, I notice you studiously avoided asking, “when are the writing fraternity going to ask some tough questions to the Crotchety one”? The Prince of the Periphery dats who you is! ;)

  304. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Brady – “45 glock, AK 47, bayonet zig zag on two”

    Hernandez – “oh boy”

  305. Zucc – Put me in coach! put me in!!

    …a minute later wakes up in cold sweat.

  306. Put me in coach
    I’m ready to play
    Today
    Look at me
    I could be
    Center field!

  307. Ah, poor Johnny one note
    sang out with gusto
    And just overloaded the place
    Poor Johnny one note
    yelled willy nilly
    Until he was blue in the face
    For holding one note was his ace

  308. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Reporter – “how would you rate the caliber of your offense?”

    Hernandez – “.45″

  309. Reporter to Belichek: “What do you think of Hernandez’ execution?”

    “I’m in favor of it.”

  310. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez’s friend – “In the night, you can see shooting stars”

    Hernandez – “especially after 3am”

  311. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Brady – “you killed them tonight”

    Hernandez – “you ain’t seen nothing yet”

  312. Tattooist: “But there’s no room for any more tattoos.”

    “Put one in my freakin’ eyeball.”

  313. Seguin is gone for more reasons than his skating ability. The GM basically called him an immature loafer before unloading him, an occurrence so unique that I can’t recall another one from the past. You usually don’t downgrade your Ford in the Craig’s list ad.

  314. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez – “what band do you want to see tonight?”

    Friend – “the killers”

    Hernandez – “we aren’t in a band”

  315. Mertonian Norm on

    Interrupting the wit-fest to point out the obvious — Pouliot a much better player than Zucc. Good pick-up.

  316. Look at me,
    I’m as helpless as a kitten up a tree;
    And I feel like I’m clingin’ to a cloud,
    I can’t understand
    I get Musky, just holding your hand.

  317. Carp
    just gotta say i LOVE
    your story at 1 p.m.

    crazy weekend. not much time to hang around
    and comment
    but i also think i’m trying not to think
    much about the Rangers because the whole
    team looks like it can go either way…
    a bit of resurgence due to changes in offensive attack
    or a complete and utter and awful mess
    (storing up cases of adult beverages for October and beyond)

  318. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Mcdonut camp holding out until an rival team offer sheet so he gets paid lol

  319. McDonut’s agent is giving us all a lesson on Zeno’s Paradox…at some point Ryan has to put his foot down like stopping an opposing forward. Obviously, his agent has his heart set on a cut of a big payday.

  320. Stranger Nation on

    Everyone worries about draft picks? We picked up 2 first rounders and an agitator who can score for a 30+ yr old one dimensional winger.

    Bundle MDZ (Moore is better), Boyle and Hags for a 2 way LW who can check and score 25+ and not get knocked around in POs

  321. Stranger Nation on

    McD is in a tough negotiating position given low offensive output playing in Torts bend dont break defense.

  322. Matty "HopeNashIsMonsterInYear2"Boy on

    Stranger, I am still waiting to see what MDZ looks like with the reins off. He may surprise us. Then again, he may not.

    I ask rhetorically, not just directly to you, if he truly is not as good as Moore, who was a 7 or 8 in Columbus, then what does it say of the quality of our team?

  323. Stranger Nation on

    Our D is thin and not that good. Limited size, crease clearing, weak break out passing, no strong shots. If Biron played Hank minutes we would be getting a top 3 pick this year.

    Moore is a very, very good skater who needs some refinement in neutral zone play. great outlet passes which is the key to transition. Never want to trade youth, but we have youth to take MDZ place. He may not have MDZ ‘vision’ but is a steadier presence and much better defensively.

  324. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Matty – in Columbus Moore was a 7/8 and Brassard was on the 4th line. Perhaps CBJ management, despite all those deep playoff runs and cup wins, didnt quite know how to evaluate their talent.

  325. Phoenix rumors have been buzzing.edm & wpg too. Hopefully getting close & something gives soon.

  326. We should trade for Chris Farley. When he wows, other GMs will say, ‘where’d they dig this guy up from?’

  327. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Wicky – Neil is a good choice. Make that a great choice. Replaces Clowe. We need someone like a Clowe, Lucic, or a Neil…

  328. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Kooz – Farley is more of a Torts type of player – being stiff for starters…

  329. Things I’d like to read in the NY Post:

    1. Ryan McDonagh comes into camp three inches taller, 25 lbs. heavier, faster than ever, and with a nasty attitude.

    2. Zuccarello didn’t grow during off-season, but has yanked out all his teeth one by one with a pair of pliers and vows to ape Bobby Clark.

    3. Brad Richards follows suit.

    4. Del Zotto’s dad sits him down and explains that he is a descendent of Romulus and Remus and he expects him to start playing like it.

  330. When Richards put a tooth under his pillow as a kid, a quarter showed up that night and left a fairy godmother.

  331. Kesler and Kassian for Boyle, Hags and MDZ? Sure this trade is crazy but anybody think that something will happen between NYC and Vancouver? Coaches wanting to bring their go to guy(s) to their new team? Curious.

  332. “On the good ship Lollipop,
    Its a sweet trip
    To the candy shop
    Where bon-bon’s play,
    On the sunny beach
    Of peppermint bay.”

  333. If you read him left to right, top to bottom, he is actually Gone With the Wind.

  334. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Kooz – Hernandez has an alibi it seems.. …apparently, he was off killing 4 other people at the time Odin was shot …

  335. ‘Look, I shot the dude, but it’s a different dude than the dude you’re talkin’ about, dude.’

  336. “I’m not blamin’ him directly, but I noticed my life started to go bad after Belichek got caught filming Jet practices.”

  337. To cop: “Dude passes by you, you hear him say something sounds like “you ain’t nuttin'”, tell me you don’t shoot him.”

  338. The more I think about it, what would Glen have done with all that extra cap room after another compliance buyout. This team performed pretty well after those trades, near the best in the NHL. If Staal and Clowe were in the lineup….. we could have at least won a few games from Boston.

    As long as Brad doesn’t hurt himself, this may work out in the long run. MDZ might turn into brian Leetch II.0 with the reins unleashed. well, he might play better anyway.

    I expect everyone else to. Staal, Mcd, Callahan, Hank are the kind of players that already play at the highest level.

  339. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez – look, it’s true I’ve killed many many people… But this time I didnt do it…

  340. “I guess you feel like a real big shot now that you got me locked up in a cell.”

    “Yep.”

  341. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    South Bronx, sit, this is how we be Rollin in Bristol Conn, my brutha.

  342. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Where be that one-eyed jack? And I don’t be meanin no diamond card…

  343. At least Michael Jackson had the courtesy to pay off his victims instead of shooting them one by one.

  344. “You gonna drag that one bleary eye in here and testify against me, Jones?”

  345. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez – “you keep talking and ill pop a cap in yo utha eyeball fool”

  346. To cop: “Some dude axes you for your autograph, tell me you don’t shoot him.”

  347. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez to Tom Brady – “you throw one more ball to someone else and I’ll shoot you right here in the huddle”

  348. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez to his fiancée – “either you make me dinner right now, or I’ll shoot you”

  349. “I’d be playing for the Bruins if they had any mfing rinks in Bristol when I was a little sucker.”

  350. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez to his housekeeper – “you clean up these dead bodies or I’ll shoot you and hire someone else to clean yo assen up too”

  351. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez – I don’t know bout no slap shot, but I be all over buck shot

  352. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez – “I got a blast from the point…. In fact, I blast from anywhere”

  353. lol Hernandez hires Molly Maid service, “Clean up these spended cartridges and blood and whatnot, and don’t tell them I told you.”

  354. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez – hey ref, you miss one more call and I’ll shoot you in the head

  355. “Sam, Crosby just went down in the corner like he was shot.”

    “I think he was, Joe.”

  356. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez – “no one will know nuthin after I shoot my security system and stab my cell phone.”

  357. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez’s HS hoops coach – “can you shoot”

    Hernandez – “8 people last night”

  358. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Tomb – it was the perfect crime. Who would find out who he texted after smashing his phone?

  359. To Molly Maids” “You see dead people around here, just clean it all up, don’t be comin’ to me every time.”

  360. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez hoop coach – “how’s your jump shot”

    Hernandez – “I’m better if I crouch”

  361. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Molly maid – sir, there are dead bodies everywhere

    Hernandez – you should see my apartment

  362. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez – gun it

    Driver – I’m already flooring it

    Hernandez – no, I mean gun someone down

  363. Warden: “We’re putting you in segregation for your own protection.”

    “Damn, you must have some crazy people in here.”

  364. “I beat all the numbers out of that cell phone, they ain’t gonna find a thing.”

  365. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Waitress – your food is a little late

    Hernandez -,want me to shoot you?

  366. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Tom Brady – sorry, I overthrew you…

    Hernandez -.happens again, I’ll shoot you

  367. “Y’all makin’ a big deal of this. Least I didn’t fry ‘em up and eat ‘em like your boy Dahmer. Get the real criminals”

  368. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Ref – we have 2 penalties…defensive pass interference # 21 and triple homicide offense # 81. They offset, replay the down.

  369. Lawyer: “We’ll try the Twinkie defense. You eat Twinkies?”

    “Forget that, don’t look good on my Curriculum Vitae.”

  370. “Coach Belichek told me, you get stopped by the cops, offer them two tickets to a home game. He’s full of chit. They laughed in my face.”

  371. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez to cop – look he bumped into someone who then tripped over another dude that caused this other guy to bump into me…..you tellin me, you dont shoot all 4 of them, sit

  372. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez -,coach I didnt mean to kill him…that 6th shot was an axident

  373. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Pizza delivery boy – sorry I’m late

    Hernandez – well I’m sorry too BANG BANG

  374. “My client was at Church all that day and the day before. The whole time. Father O’Bribe can verify that.”

  375. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Confessional:

    Father – tell me your sins

    Hernandez – I killed 20 people last night

    Father – oh my

    Hernandez – now I gotta shoot you #cant trust no one

  376. Belichek: “You think you could play a little defense and shoot the gap like Ray Lewis?”

    “I’ll take a stab at it.”

  377. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez neighbor – Aaron, why are there 44 dead bodies in your yard?

    Hernandez – make it 45. BANG

  378. Priest: “Wow! I’m going to have to ask you to make a novena.”

    “I could do that, just give me the plans.”

  379. He was climbing Mt. Kilimanjaro, but he dropped out because he shot the Sherpa.

  380. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Brady – Aaron can you get open deep

    Hernandez – after I shoot the CB and SS, I be clear #murder D backs

  381. Police re-open investigation of four missing professors at University of Florida.

  382. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Waitress – today’s special sauce and shells.

    Hernandez – ill take just the shells… What caliber?

    Waitress – excuse me, what?

    Hernandez – you want me to shoot you?

  383. Cabbie, as Hernandez gets into back of taxi: “Man, long day, I’m shot.”

    “Not yet you ain’t.”

  384. Big trade today?

    I have been hearing lots of rumors about EDM and PHX.

    be a Lion glen?

  385. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hernandez – shooting someone in the face is easy…. The hard part is getting Molly maids to clean up the after mess.

  386. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Waitress – I’m sorry we are out of feta cheese

    Hernandez – well, in one minute, I’ll be out of ammo Bang bang bang bang

  387. I think Glennie is 69. He may be planning one large, extravagant cookout before he departs.

  388. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Defense attorney – Aaron, how many people have you killed?

    Hernandez – is the pope catholic?

    Attorney – yes, but so what, how many have you killed?

    Hernandez – to the nearest thousand?

  389. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    If Hernandez shoots 20 people in a forrest with a silencer, does it make a sound if no one hears it?

  390. Monday Mornin’ Sidewalks. My mamma told me nothing good happens after 1 AM. Man, was she wrong. :)) Catch you on the other side of the sun, e.

  391. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Shoot a man in the face, he bleeds a lot. Teach a man to shoot himself in the face, and you get off scot free…

  392. well the EDM one was a joke, mentioned Hall.

    the Phx one was a couple lesser names BBB, piehat and MZA for brown and runblad?

    probably nothing

  393. Matty "HopeNashIsMonsterInYear2"Boy on

    well, the good news is MacD deal is still getting closer. Glad we’re trying to keep him……hope we do…….

  394. If true, it means they bought 3 years of his free agency. Curious to see the numbers.

    As much as we are anxious about McD signing, Stepan’s contract is as important. He is our 1st line center, and without Callahan and Hagelin they can not afford to start the season without another top 6 in October.

  395. the longer the term the better on mcdonagh like ilb said buying his free agent years. i would love the cap hit to come in at 5 mil with some front loaded to it.

    josi got 4 mil per

    voynov 6 yrs 24.1 4.1

    hamonic 7 yrs 3.9 per

    have to figure mcdonagh comes in at 5 mil cap hit.

  396. I hope so too. He’ll probably get a signing bonus this year, plus his salary will escalate by the end of contract.

  397. Didn’t get a chance to comment on Pouliot signing. I’ll just say this. After buying out one of their top 6 forwards, Yzerman opted not to qualify another one ( Pouliot supposedly played top 6 much of the season) at miserly $1.8M. Careful projecting him to be a difference maker. Depth signing, unless he proves otherwise.

  398. James G via Glen Sather on

    Who do you have to trade around here to get a *new post*??

    I agree wholeheartedly Ilb. If that’s the deal for McD we’re fortunate and Stepan is undoubtedly the number 1 priority now.

  399. I didn’t say I didn’t like it, Manny. He has size, can skate. But as soon as we start projecting him to play and produce consistently as a top 6 player, he will join the WBM before they finish their annual out of MSG trip.

  400. And as opposed to LB view, I’d prefer they kept MZA and find a way to keep his salary under the cap. He and Brassard were their best PP forwards. MZA is one of the better passers on the team.

  401. James G via Glen Sather on

    Pouliot gives them some minimal offensive depth on the LW where they’re in bad shape, Ilb. I for one am not high on him but do not mind it either. 15 goals would have made him the no 2 scorer at LW this season AND in 11-12 as well (Hagelin had 14 goals 36 points) Unfortunately they weren’t getting much for the money available.

  402. I’d like to see MZA stay with us. I just don’t think we’re in too good of shape if he’s a top 6 forward.

    Top of the mornin’ to ya Manny!

  403. Yes, the Rangers need more size and more toughness. Size up front, more toughness on defense, sure. But at the end of the day, the toughest team in the league, Boston Bruins, finished exactly were the other 29 teams did- no SC. They lost to more skills.

  404. McDonagh’s deal worth $4.7M per for 6 years. Fair number, very fair for Rangers…

    WOW GREAT DEAL FOR RANGERS

  405. Rangers able to buy out two years of McDonagh’s prospective unrestricted free agency under deal.

  406. Is that true? Great work, Rangers! They did very well with Staal a few years back, signing him for just under $4M

  407. ideal 3rd line: Pouliot-Brassard-MZA.

    And what I mean by that, is if those guys are our 3rd line this season it hopefully means they’re getting more than expected out of Richards, Kreider, Hagelin and those 3 are playing top 6 minutes with Stepan Callahan and Nash.

  408. Have I come across like I prefer toughness over skill because of my views regarding the blueline, ilb? Because that wasn’t my intention. I know full well this team needs skill in addition to toughness. When I say that’s our ideal 3rd line I mean it as in that would mean the skilled forwards are maximizing their potential and we have a third line that can actually provide offense as opposed to just being an interchangeable fourth line

  409. and wow. That McD deal feels like getting away with murder at this point. Also shows he’s committed to playing here. Great job and a very reasonable cap hit for his role on this team.

  410. Rob in Beantown on

    Wow, if that $4.7 number is right it is a very good deal for the Rangers. All the same, happy payday McD. You deserve it.

  411. lets see now if lundqvist gets a fair deal or he takes the rangers to the cleaners.

  412. I remember nothing about you saying that, JamesG, lol. I just went through many posts mentioning that last night. Too many posters to mention. It’s all true, they are soft. They need toughness. They also need skill, especially after running one first liner out of town and observing the other one’s demise.

  413. Cross Check Charlie on

    “Who do you have to trade around here to get a new post??”

    LOL. Don’t you enjoy scrolling through all the nonsense?

    As others have mentioned the reported deal for McDonagh is a good one. Five years down the road it’ll be a bargain unless something unforeseen happens.

  414. Explain to me this logic: one of the best goal scorers and one of the better coaches ever coached this team couldn’t get along. So what do they do? Get rid of both of them.

  415. Hola, James. Buenos Dias! Como Estas, Hombre?

    Ilb – back to vibin’. Glad to see it.

  416. Stranger Nation on

    McD is our No 1 Dman because we dont have a real No 1 Dman. Love his skating and tenacity but needs to take his game to next level offensively.

    Bruins missed forcing game 7 in SC finals by one minute so they are not skilled enough?
    Mr Bergeron and his broken rib would not agree..

  417. The McD signing is a deal, considering Friday’s free for all race to the most ridiculous contract.

  418. If that number is under $5m that is an awesome deal for the Rangers – he could have been looking at $7m+ in those 3 UFA years. Well done Slats!

  419. So how much is left for Zucc, Hags, Step and Falk? Capgeek has not taken off the full cap hits for Powe & Asham so at a guess i think its $8.5m

  420. $8.5 includes Hank’s current hit though. So that’s good to know. I guess Zuccarello is gone (sadly since he’s our best PP point man) with about $3M for Stepan, $1.8M for Hags and $1.2 for Falk. The rest will go towards Hank’s raise.

  421. Manny – Hank has one more year, THEN his new contract would kick in. They should have enough left for $3m for Step £1.2 for Falk, and up to $2m each for Hags and Zucc

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