Happy Independence Day!!!! … Rangers place Arron Asham and Darroll Powe on waivers


Update around noon: The Rangers placed Darroll Powe and Arron Asham on waivers today. Not sure if that means they will be released/bought out.

They cannot be assigned to Hartford until the season begins, and that would provide $925,000 of relief from each contract. So, I’m still not sure why this happened today.

Stay tuned.

FWIW, Alain Vigneault coached Asham in Montreal.


Happy Fourth!

Enjoy the holiday, and save some agita for tomorrow, when the Rangers and the few dollars they have left sit on the sidelines during free agency.

Or maybe Glen Sather has a trick up his sleeve?

Anyway, enjoy the fireworks (not to be confused with firetorts) and the Empire State Building being lit in orange and black to honor Mr. Snider and Vinny Lecavalier.

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  1. Happy Independence day to all you boneheads!!!!

    Celebrate your freedom and your independence today and every day.

    then get ready for hockey.

  2. Damn you trying to go to bed. You enjoy the holiday also. Great blog, should be interesting the next couple of weeks.
    Re Both coaches to quote Shakespeare “Alls well that ends Well” Both cities needed a change of discipline. Interesting how they’re comparing notes. Torts may benefit well from this change.

  3. I’m expecting a trade to free up some cap space. The roster is still very similar to the one Torts left behind and i can’t help thinking one or two players might be moved to freshen things up for the new coach.
    I’m thinking DZ, Stralman, Powe, Boyle, Asham, maybe even a Hagelin?

  4. This could be our last night on Earth. You don’t want to die a virgin, do you?

  5. Happy Independence Day, boneheads!

    Enjoy it with your family and friends.

    Let me see if I can beat the traffic going upstate today. Let’s hope the little lady is up soon.

  6. enjoy the day all. off to the beach with my 2 year old and wife. married 4 years ago yesterday. ouch.

    will have iphone for hockey purposes today.

    rangers sign briere 3 yrs 12 mil today.

    they then figure out how to get under cap later

  7. Happy July 4th people. Remember its July 4th not 4th of July seeing as you write your dates backwards.

  8. Happy 4th heads! Time to suck up some Double time at work in the company of the twilight zone marathon and then grab some BBQ and pyrotechnics down at the harbor in Mamaroneck. I hope none of those Harrison bums show up :)

  9. Happy, Happy Birthday to a free country! Let’s endeavor to keep it that way, shall we? No Coke, Pepsi.

  10. Egypt is a free country too. For a couple of days. Hey, ilb and coos, no politics!

    So leaving early didn’t work as both mrs ilb and little ilbster are still sleeping.

  11. Eric, if they had signed Briere to replace Richards and saved $3-4m on the cap i’d be happy

  12. Silly me. I had assumed a scenario wherein Slats got fed up with Torts for (among other reasons) stubbornly keeping Richards in the lineup and on the PP all season. Turns out they both loved the guy. Cheech and Chong, where’s the bong?

  13. Happy Independence Day Heads. Hoping for independence from Richards contract today. Just hope he doesn’t turn his phones ringer off at the picnic today.

  14. Really people? Briere? Let’s not get out of hand. Briere is so injury and concussion prone he is actually more likely to be injured and not contribute during the year than Richards. And he’ll need to be signed for 3-4 years. And isn’t he also over 35? I’ll take my chances on a 1-year deal with Richards thanks.

  15. Mamaroneck Fire Department to the pyrotechnics specialist:

    “Fire these clowns”

  16. Gravy, Just Gravy on

    Special Independence Day Off-Season Pre-Free Agency WBM (c)

    0) Boyle
    1) Richards
    2) MDZ
    3) Pyatt
    4) Eminger
    5) Powe

  17. Gravy, Just Gravy on

    I’d take the risk of Briere, at less money, over 3 years than Richards over 7.

  18. Leetchhalloffame on

    The more I articles I read aboot the Rangers being hamstrung by the salary cap the more pissed off I get aboot them not ridding themselves of that waste Richards. Possibly opening themselves up to another team’s offering sheet for McDonagh is a scary thought. What an organ-eye-zation. FIRE SATHER!

  19. Sioux-per-man 10.0 on

    Happy 4th Boys!!!

    May you find all the Independence you can find today!!!

    Carp – any chance we get our independence from Richards today?

  20. Sioux-per-man 10.0 on

    I can’t help but think of the problems the Wild have today because they can’t buy out Heatly. And if the Rangers will be in the same boat at the end of the year. Just a scary scary thought with all the talent that is going to be available in ’14 UFAs.

  21. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Lmao @ firetorts

    Happy 4th everyone and I also can’t help but think there is some sort of deal coming.

    Off to work!

  22. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Saw a blurb that said they thought hobbit would get about a 1.25 mil salary…I wonder where they expect all the rfa’s to come in?

  23. Wicky if Sather goes out and signs someone that puts them over the cap how long do they get to shed salary?

  24. Yeah Carp That’s the plan. Dunno if Walters is open today though. Just the pizza places and such

  25. Czechthemout!!! on

    Powe and Asham on Waivers! That is two of the three I thought would be gone. The last one is Pyatt. I expect him to be gone as well if they go after another free agent not name Max Lapiere.

  26. Sioux-per-man 10.0 on

    Looks like the kids are going to get a real shot to play this year I’m excited to get youth back in the line up.

  27. Czechthemout!!! on

    I expect LaPiere and either Tom Gilbert, Keith Bullard to become Rangers pretty quick.

  28. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I would think mcdonut and step in the 3’s and hags around 1.5. Falk around 1.2

    I certainly don’t re-sign hags and the hobbit.

    I dump the pyatt 1.5, the Stralman 1.7, and the mad bomber 2.5, and the powe 1.1.

    We originally had 14 mil in space (albatross included), take out the 10 mil for the rfa’s (again only one of hags or mza) that leaves (not Toronto) 4 mil and get rid of the above 4 contracts, that is 10.8 mil of space.

    Assuming (hoping in my case) mcilrath makes the roster with his 1.3 mil, we are at 9.5. If miller is up he is also 1.3, so we are at 8.2.

    That is workable and also dependent on those moved contracts and what they bring back (player/picks) and if hank gets an extension obviously.

    Sorry folks, just musing here while it’s slow

  29. Powe and Asham moved to free up some space for a mini free agent splash by Slats or just free up some cap room for those RFA’s.

    If we know Slats he cant let a July 1st (or 4th) go without a signing or two!! Hold your breath!

  30. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Well clearly while the names may be different, my above post seems to be partially in process

  31. Sioux-per-man 10.0 on

    Kind of a nice list Kristo put himself on, here are the point leaders for the Sioux the last 10 year. Some pretty good NHL hockey players on this list.
    So give the kid time – he could grow into the real deal.

    ’13- Kristo,
    ’12-Nelson – Kristo
    ’11 Frattin – Knight
    ’10 VandeVelde – Gregoire – Kristo
    ’09 Duncan,
    ’08 Oshie,
    ’07 Toews-Oshie-Duncan,
    ’06 Stafford-Zajac-Oshie-Toews,
    ’05 Zajac-Stafford,
    ’04 Parise – Stafford,
    ’03 Parise.

  32. Didn’t think either would be back. No point in having them around w the type of team they apparently want to buold

  33. Rob at the Jersey Shore on

    Happy Independence Day!!

    Sad about Asham. Will miss the guy. Best of luck to both him and Powe

  34. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I thought they would keep Asham (only a mil in salary and toughness we desperately need), but maybe injuries and inability to stay in the line up due to said injuries are the reason.

  35. Why not Pyatt over Powe and Asham? I find them both to be more useful than Pyatt. At least they compete every night, limited as they are. Looks like this team is going to get pushed around next season more than it ever has since the Muckler era. Anybody think some cowboy GM or owner throws an offer sheet at McDonough? I think there’s a very good chance that’s going to happen.

  36. Early on in the season last year, Hagelin and Nash showed some @chemistry@. I wouldn’t get rid of He-Man….he can score 15-20 and kill penalties…and, he’s gonna be cheap…#bork #flow

  37. Czechthemout!!! on


    Just curious, but why do you not like Hags? He plays tougher in terms of his board work than Boyle and many others. He always seems to come out with the puck. Again, just curious.

  38. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I agree, I would keep Hagar over the hobbit, just doesn’t make sense to me to keep both

  39. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I like Hagar a lot, I just dont think you can keep him and mza. While Hagar is tough along the boards, we need size and some “meanness” especially in the top six and the money has to come from somewhere.

  40. Maybe there was something else wrong with Richards that has been fixed. Like an injury or alcohol problem or drugs or Olivia Munn was too high-maintenance. Rangers think he has it under control.

  41. Pyatt earned his spot on the 4th line next season just based on his performance in the playoffs. I know some of you floppy shlongs will say, he sucks, he’s useless, eyes are too bright, yada, yada, yada.

    He’s a 4th liner. Played well in the playoffs. I have no problem with him coming back. If it doesn’t work out, waive him. Simple as that.

    I like the guy. I don’t like him when he’s on the 2nd line though. That was a weird experiment.

  42. Wicky, while MZA is small, he plays along the wall just as tough as anyone in the league…

    I understand your reasoning. We definitely need size & grit. But, I wouldn’t do it at the expense of Zucc. I’d like to see us get bigger and meaner on D.

  43. Czechthemout!!! on

    Intersting things coming out of the prospect camp.

    Their is this little dude who is outstanding. Only problem is he is only 5 7″ . Apparently, he carries the puck up and down the ice and nobody can take it away from him.

    This Anthony Duclair kid is awsome. He has stood out each and every shift. He has even showed a real good defensive side to his game that most did not think he had yet. As of Decmber,2012, he was considered and mid first round prospect.

    Sam Noureau, 6 5″ 235 pounds. His skating, which was his biggest issue during his draft year, has improved so much that it is no longer considered a problem. He has been a standout along with Mcilrath and Skjei on defense. This kidhas a booming shot and improved his offense from 12 points to 36 points in one season. He maybe a dark horse candidate for some playing time with the Rangers, depending on circumstances.

  44. Agree, Orr. Anyone who watched the playoffs knows Pyatt was a valuable player in the bottom 6 forwards. He’s a 3rd liner at best…

  45. Czechthemout!!! on


    I agree with you on size and grit. I think that Hags is grittier than several of our size guys like Pyatt and even Boyle. He is more effective at their game than they are. In fact, even MZA is as well which is kind of sad. Maybe it is better to get the right combo of grit and size by replacing the guys who have the size but dont play with it effectively. Given the choice between Hags and MZA, I would keep Hags.

  46. Happy Independence Day to EVERYBODY here!!!
    (and not here)
    try not to injure yourself

  47. Sioux-per-man 10.0 on

    Carp – That’s a solid 4th line!

    I can’t wait for the All American Line

    Kreider-Stepan-Kristo Team USA – building chemistry for the Olympics!!!

    First Comes Gold …. then comes Silver!!!

  48. Asham will presumably be picked up by the Capitals, Canes or Blue Jackets because he is suddenly three teams short of having played for every team in the division.

  49. Sioux-per-man 10.0 on

    Thane Fliginger

    Just nice to see our point leader play for the Rangers.

    Especially after Miller was picked #1, then left at the last minute. I was really looking forward to Miller & Grimaldi playing together for the Sioux, but that didn’t happen.

  50. Sioux-per-man 10.0 on

    Not for a $1M, they will save the big buyout for Richards at the end of the year.

    So if they pass Waivers will they play in Hartford?

  51. Onecupin74yearsandcounting on

    Sather is trippin .. he dumps Bickel and the Hawks give him 4 years..and the Cup.

  52. I actually never knew how good of a wrist shot Asham had. He didn’t score often but, that shot of his was pretty…

  53. First of all- Haley> Pyatt for the fourth line if Pyatt is going to pull a disappearing act for 3/4 of the season as he did this year.

    As for Asham- while I was happy to have his timely playoff goals (he stole the momentum and shut the crowd up in game 7 in WASH) I don’t see the point of having him. Much like Rupp, he’s an aging enforcer with health concerns that can no longer enforce. Dorsett is young strong a good skater who fights often and can chip in 10-14 goals a season. If having him for a full year replaces the all mighty P**st there’s not reason not to give some younger guys these roster spots.

  54. NYR I agree. But once upon a time there was a NYR with one of the nastiest shots I ever say..His initials were EC….lol

  55. If your fourth line, on merit, is Pyatt-Boyle-Dorsett, you should have a pretty good lineup.

    Agreed Carp. But I’d like to see more of the Pyatt who played games 1-10 and 40-48 instead of the one who played in between those.

  56. Carp, I think a fellow beat writer has been cheating off your paper…



    McDonagh is likely to sign a deal worth between $4.5 and $5 million for anywhere from three to five years, with the price escalating as does the term. If the defenseman goes to arbitration,— the player can file by July 10; if he does not, the club can file the following day — he would be liable for a two-year contract.

    The offer-sheet business gets tricky. Though the Rangers have approximately $13.3 million of space with which to accommodate signing McDonagh and fellow Group II’s Derek Stepan, Carl Hagelin, Mats Zuccarello and recently acquired Justin Falk, that number swells to about $19.7 million with the 10 percent summer allowance.

    So if a team were to come in with an offer sheet worth, say, $6.728 million per to McDonagh — which would equate to signing compensation of a first, a second and a third-round draft pick —, the Rangers would have the ability to match, though it would definitely cause some pain.

    The chance of McDonagh getting an offer-sheet seems remote, but what if the Islanders, who have an immense amount of available cap space and need to use a fair amount of it in order to reach the floor, decide to make mischief?

    The Blueshirts, in that case, probably wouldn’t be able to sign Zuccarello, whom they have slotted at somewhere around $1.25 million, and they would then have to play hardball with Stepan, who is not eligible for arbitration.

    They would likely also have to waive both Darroll Powe and Arron Asham at the start of the year, cutting their combined $2.067 million cap hit to $217,000 as members of the AHL Wolf Pack.

  57. I don’t know if this has already been addressed, but could Sather possibly be thinking that he’ll trade Richards during the season, maybe to a team that is having trouble reaching the Salary cap Floor?

  58. Devils very interested in Clowe. Habs were too but are out now. If Clowe goes to Devils you know he will be 100% healthy and really stick it to us.

  59. bull dog line on

    wasn’t Clowe to slow and not worth it. now all of you are changing your tune. if he does end up with the Devs, he will stick it to the Rangers for 4 years.

  60. wow!!!reports going around claude Giroux of the flyers is ready to sign a 8 year 8 million dollar contract. The flyers are already over the cap. Holmgren will have to shed some salary which will probably make the flyers worse than they are now. The funny thing is flyer fans were killing the rangers about Nash’s contract which will now look good.

  61. Seguin, Peverly and Button to Stars for Eriksson, Joe Morrow,Reilly Smith and Matt Fraser.

  62. There goes the Bruins’ chemistry…what do you think, Papa Bear? Will be interesting to hear what Slather does post July 5…I’m putting my paws over my eyes, can’t take this! Do you think the other GMs are still gullible enough to take BR for some high caliber prospects? If the BOS-DAL trade is for real, could be a rebuilding year for both teams.

  63. boston looks to be the team to beat in the eastern conference now. There is a gm who has a clue on how to build a consistent winning team. 2 cup appearances in the past 4 years and more to come.

  64. Boston just lost Jagr, Horton and traded Seguin and Peverley for Eriksson (who i love). Not sure how that makes them any better than they were 2 weeks ago.

  65. I’d love to think something is brewing with the Rangers but that could be scary as well…

  66. I don’t even know what to say. If our greatest option is to resign Clowe tomorrow I think we are going to be in for a long season next season. We’re cash strapped and we’re gonna ante up 3-4 million for Ryan Clowe who if we’re lucky will score 15 goals and NOT sit out most the year with a concussion…Im back and forth on him and I don’t know how much better we are with him if we cant plug other holes

  67. In *hindsight* trading for Clowe was a waste of draft picks because we didn’t have him in the playoffs. Signing him is going to cost us another pick, right?

  68. yup and a roster spot that probably cannot be filled via acquisition if he cannot stay healthy.

  69. What I can’t figure out is how are the Debbies involved in a lot of UFA rumors when they are in such financial trouble? They always seem to avoid disaster somehow!

  70. Probably irrelevant anyway, but it would’ve made more sense if the condition on which the extra pick would go to the Sharks on Clowe re-signing with the Rangers was based on only signing _before_ he became UFA.

  71. Supposedly they are in on Clowe! This after resigning Elias to 3 more years…

  72. Crazy news today. Wow. What a buttload of trades and waives. Grabovski? I guess he’s on insane person waivers.

    Happy 4th Heads!!!! Hope you all have a great one!

  73. Cross Check Charlie on

    Powe doesn’t score during the entire shortened season. Not even a secondary assist. He deserves to be let go.

    I would rather have Asham on the team than Pyatt, but he’s no big loss.

    Don’t really care what they do with Clowe. The Sharks knew something that’s why they let him go. Sather got fleeced on that one.

  74. Wow…just days after saying Seguin needs to work on being a “pro”, Chiarelli trades him to the Stars and lands Louie Eriksson…

  75. In *hindsight*, I Hope Seguin remembers that Dallas is in a different timezone and adjusts his alarm clock accordingly.

  76. The Sharks knew that Clowe would get 2 concussions leading up to the playoffs so they went and got Raffi Torres instead.

  77. The thing with Clowe is just bad luck. If we had never traded for him and he suffered a bad concussion w another team then was going ufa tomorrow 99% of us wouldn’t even debate it

  78. tommy, the guy who built a lot of that Boston team is second in command for NYR now. Unfortunately, No. 1 in command has re-taken complete control since breakup day and is no longer, apparently, so interested in what No. 2 says any longer. Ooooof.

  79. James, but San Jose didn’t want him and the Sharks thought they were a contender. What does that tell you?

  80. Carp
    i’m reading between the lines here
    are you hinting that our nightmare
    will continue because Gorton will jump
    outta here the opportunity that comes his way?

  81. Sather taking the rangers over and being the #1 guy means the rangers are doomed.

  82. Matty "HopeNashIsMonsterInYear2"Boy on

    No. 2 knows nothing. He only built a team that for 2 of the last 4 seasons was the beast of the east.

    Sather, No. 1, knows it all. He has built….well, he has built…..ummm….well, he has been here for 13 years and he has….umm….well, he has lasted 13 years. He knows what he is doing!!


  83. Matty "HopeNashIsMonsterInYear2"Boy on

    It was bad luck that CLowe got twice concussed. However, it was stupidity that sent 3, yes 3, picks to SJ for damaged, overworked, slow goods. There is a long list of not-so-smart-moves by GM’s. Sather was outfoxed by as Shark BIG TIME.

    There are times when a player doesn’t live up to the name he has created. Vinny L. isn’t a superstar now, but he was years ago. Clowe is a very very good player, but not what he was. That’s why SJ made the decision they made.

    Trading away 3 picks for a 30 year old that a team in contention wants to get rid of is like trading Hank for Bob.

    And don’t kid yourself, this guy considers everything. Nothing, including Leetch, Messier, and Hank, is sacred.

  84. Matty "HopeNashIsMonsterInYear2"Boy on

    And if he could trade Carpy right now for even a water boy, he’d do it.

  85. Matty "HopeNashIsMonsterInYear2"Boy on

    The good news is that up against the cap, as he moronically is, having kept Richards, he can’t make many really stupid FA grabs.

    That’s the good news.

  86. It tells me exactly what most people including yourself have been saying Carp- they knew something everyone else did not. And I know that in the right circumstances he’s a big attribute to this team. The same could have been said for the likes of Eric Lindros and Pat Lafontaine after their first 12 games as Rangers. They have very little maneuverability and I don’t feel like seeing them waste it on someone who is one hit away from completing that Lindros-Lafontaine line.


    u guys i hope realize giroux is in the final year next year of 3.75 deal. his extension kicks in for 8 mil two years from now.

    did you guys think he was a UFA? not to 2014-2015 but scratch that now

  88. bad news is the rangers will be a soft team that can’t score many goals and probably will fight to the end of the season to make the playoffs. I’m not sold that the new coach is going to make the ny rangers into a offensive juggernaut.

  89. Sather Must Go on

    our #1 also got bamboozled, by who SHLD be our #1 , by not getting a #1 back for gabby,, high draft pix are SO important in salary cap driven NHL,, yeesh..

  90. eric, thanks for the clarification. I didn’t realize the contract kicks in 2 years from now.

  91. The Gaborik trade might turn out to be an even worse move than not buying out Richards in a year’s time.

  92. so if asham and powe both clear waivers which they prob will i assume we only get charged 217k on the cap combined.

    a 1.7 mil savings on both combined according to brooksie


  93. Ryan Rishaug reports that Darroll Powe and Arron Asham have been placed on waivers.

    Powe and Asham are both signed for next season with a cap hits of $1.06 million and $1 million respectively.

    The combined cap charge for both of them next season is $2.06 million and if the Rangers put both of them in the minors, via Larry Brooks in the NY Post, the team would only be charged with a combined total of $217,000 against the cap.

    A player’s cap hit when he is sent to the minors on a one-way contract, via cap geek is, is the players cap hit minus the minimum salary + $375,000.

    They have not been placed on waivers with the intention of a compliance buyout.

  94. Sather Must Go on

    Sather must lead GM history in contracts that have been paid out and not completed…Brassard/Moore wont pan out (hope they prove me wrong).. Dorsset will need a big to help him out or else he wont be effective..

  95. Stralman at 1.6 million is a problem? Probably should be thankful Sather is in charge.

  96. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Could the powe asham waiving be part of a move to create cap space for clowe or has that ship sailed?

  97. Is This Real? on

    Man that 2011-12 team that captured our hearts and imaginations feels very far away

  98. Is This Real? on

    Thought this team would build on that, keep the core together. not the case

  99. Seriously? Based on the 15 or so games you saw him play as a Ranger, Greg Moore is good enough to be a top 4 dman. After being a 7th/8th in Columbus of all places.

    Suddenly Sather doesnt sound too bad.

  100. Yeah we all knew Briere was going to Montreal. The only other place he could have gone is the Stars to play for Lindy Ruff again but they just got Peverly and Seguin so that’s out.

  101. The Gaborik trade was fantastic. Brassard is excellent for us and will be for a very long time. Moore is good and will get better. Good skills and I seem to recall him beating the hell out of someone in a fight.

  102. Lyova, how about ANYONE who can play the defensive zone physically and responsibly?

    I would sooner take Obyrne or Doug Murray. Even a healthy Jim Vandermeer as my 6th man before Stralman. I can deal with some gaffs from someone in the 6-spot as long as they’re a physical presence instead of a poke check fall to their knees to break up a play guy like Stralman. If that’s just me so be it but that’s how I feel.

  103. Montreal made damn sure to give Briere his money after Vinny L. went to Philly. They’re probably the best franchise in sports with regard to getting players who are from their area / were Habs fans growing up.

  104. And as far as Gaborik goes I dont care who pulled the decision to move him from NY. If he were playing out his final season here instead of Columbus and Sather bought out Richards this past week I think we’d be in better shape and probably could have gotten more out of his this season after which if he chose to not resign after at least they’d have some options for a replacement or upgrade this time next year.

  105. Moore may turn out to be the best player long term out of that Gaborik trade. I want to see Brassard play 82 games next season before I praise him regardless of his post season performance.

  106. Could you imagine if the Rangers signed Briere for 2 years 8 million dollars? This blog would lose 3/4 of its participants due to people collapsing.

  107. Did you see Douglas Murray attempt to play defense for Pittsburgh in the playoffs? After McDonagh, Girardi, Staal and MDZ, Stralman is currently the 5th best d-man on this team. Moore being 6th. Think the Flyers would trade their physicality on D to have Stralman play for them?

  108. bull dog line on

    I like Stralman, but I think you are overrating him a bit. if he left, he would not be that hard to replace.

  109. Oh good cherry pick one name I threw out there and don’t discuss the point I’m making. I don’t care about the Flyers. I’m not trying to argue Lyova but how can you sit here and tell me that with the current make up of our blue line that you wouldn’t add physicality to it? There isn’t one 5-6 dman in the league making about the same as Stralman that’s a physical presence that you would swap him for? is that what you’re saying? Forget about where he lies on the current Rangers depth chart.

  110. Sather Must Go on

    braasard was our best player in playoffs and dorsett was pretty good…moore not so much. Brass will level off (Columbus didnt mind losing him); Moore will be so-so..

    The prob all cap hits in the near-intermediate term… and with the nash/clowe trades, there are no hi draft picks that can lead to inexpensive/salary controlled talent..(note: I am not onj board with Krider/mcilrath, yet)

  111. bull dog line on

    San Jose did not know anything about Clowe. they just decided they were not going to resign him. Clowe being an asset, they traded him, so he would not leave and they get nothing. its how good teams handle the salary cap. its what the Rangers did with Gabby. they decided they were not going to go forward with him, so they moved him.

  112. Personally no I wouldnt. Id trade MDZ before that getting a bottom 6 forward and a 5/6 physical dman you are so craving. And Stralman isnt exactly “soft”.

    Sorry dont see the benefit of trading Stralman at 1.6 to have a physical guy like Stu Bickel or the like play as the 6th dman. And if you think Murray, who I repeat was atrocious in the playoffs, is coming anywhere close to Stralman money you are out of this world.

  113. Mikhail Grabovski with some choice words after his buyout:

    Jonas Siegel ?@jonasTSN1050 16m

    A taste of Grabovski on Carlyle: “Don’t put me on a [expletive] third line and then [expletive] play [me] six minutes in a game.”


    Jonas Siegel Jonas Siegel ?@jonasTSN1050 37m

    Grabovski had some pretty blistering remarks toward Leafs coach Randy Carlyle. Called him a “stupid coach” among other things.
    Jonas Siegel Jonas Siegel ?@jonasTSN1050 49m

    Just got off the phone with Grabovski: “Of course I feel [expletive] sad, I played [expletive] five years here.”

  114. King with no Ring on

    The Bruins gave up on Seguin, but the Rangers and their fans still have not given up on Del Zotto.

    That is why the Rangers will always be stuck in neutral.

  115. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Stralman as a #7 at 800 k, sure as a 4 or 5 for 1.7, have a nice day the door is over there

  116. King your comment suggests you either aren’t really a Ranger fan or you are like 12 years old. Ranger history is stocked with examples of trading the MDZs at a young age and then them going on to have successful careers elsewhere. The idea is to change that management mindset, give young talent a chance to develop, and build from within.

    Comparing Boston is just silly, they have lots of talent and 2 cup appearances in 3 years, they can afford to take risks. Even so there are many who are saying Boston did a crazy thing giving up on someone with so much upside.

  117. King with no Ring on

    A team has to take risks in order to succeed, regardless of recent success or failure.

    When the Rangers were first in the Eastern Conference in 2012, Sather did not attempt to improve their roster heading into the playoffs.

    The Rick Nash cannot even be considered taking a risk, because Sather only parted with a few spare parts and a draft pick.

    When was the last time Sather did as you say Matteau and traded away a player with the upside of Del Zotto?

  118. King with no Ring on

    The Rangers history is filled with examples of trading young players for over the hill average players such as Glenn Anderson, even though 1994 worked out.

    Building from within is not mutually exclusive to making trades of young players or acquiring players via free agency. The goal is identify which young players on the team that are worth keeping or are more difficult to replace.

  119. King with no Ring on

    Subsequent to the Blackhawks winning the first of their most recent two Stanley Cups, they gutter their entire roster due to salary cap restraints. They got rid of Niemi, Byfuglien and others.

  120. taking risk is one thing but what impact player are you going to get by trading delzotto? That’s what I would like to know.

  121. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Lets also not forget that in order to build from within with high end players you really need to suck for a few seasons and get one of those top flight draft picks.

    Pretty hard to build from within if the majority of your first round draft picks are double digit first rounders.

    Just my opinion though.

  122. King with no Ring on

    Using the Bruins trade with the Stars as an example, the Rangers and Bruins could have struck a trade with Del Zotto and Seguin as the primary pieces of a larger trade.

    The Bruins had some issues with Doug Hamilton last season. They have lost Andrew Ference. Do they really believe that Torey Krug can be a positive contributor next season?

    Del Zotto is 23, Loui Eriksson is 28 years old. According to the ladies and gents here, Del Zotto has upside.

  123. Unlikely NYR have any interest in dealing any of top 6 D unless (in the very unlikely event) they get back equal value at D.

  124. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    And I disagree about what you get for the mad bomber. I do not think for mdz alone in a trade you get a true impact player, you get a 6-10 forward or d man with a different style for instance a real rugged D man or a one dimensional offencive D man.

    Now if you package him with some other players/picks, then perhaps you do get an impact player.

    Best option IMHO at this point is trade him for picks and more importantly, cap space!!

  125. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I’d rather see a top six of Moore, mcilrath, Staal, OPG, mcdonut, and Falk than the top 6 that ended last season.

  126. King with no Ring on

    Del Zotto alone does not net Tyler Seguin IMHO. A larger trade would have to be consummated.

    That is the best option iWicky. Del Zotto IMHO is a 2nd pair defenseman at best, he does not provide the value of his cap hit, the cap space the Rangers have dedicated to Del Zotto could be better used elsewhere.

  127. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    And I have zippo problem trading Staal or OPG.

    The only d men I wouldn’t move (I’m not saying move then all) is mcdonut and Moore from last years team

  128. Know what’s funny Lyova? You say “name me someone you’d rather have than Stralman” and then hang on the Doug Murray mention meanwhile I explained already that it’s not about the specific players. It’s about an upgrade
    Over Stralman who maybe isn’t the same player you are talking about if you say he’s not exactly soft? What are you going to bring up his one big check in 2 rounds of playoff hockey?

  129. King with no Ring on

    The Rangers have Staal, Girardi, McDonagh, Moore and Stralman cooscoos. Dealing Del Zotto would be dealing from a position of depth.

  130. The GM a few days ago, effectively called out Seguin publicly as being lazy and immature. GMs are usually not that vocal and negative. The words of the prophets were written on the subway walls.

  131. King with no Ring on

    Did Stralman become Bobby Orr?

    Do you need Bobby Orr as a 3rd pair defenseman?

  132. Sound like disenchanted trolls, don’t they? I prefer an optimistic lephrechan any day…MDZ is only 22 yo, and you’ve already given up on him! He has improved every year, and he should be a nice asset on the Rangers if he improves as much incrementally this coming season. When MDZ was paired with Girardi, he had a league leading +/-. I am glad they have kept him in the fold, despite his growing pains. As most of us have observed, defensemen take time to develop.

  133. Hey, Stralman was one of our most effective D during the playoffs, I don’t see any chance he would not be brought back, unless Slather finds something of greater D value in return. He is a great value in terms of cost/effectiveness. I think some of you are reading about all these trades and FA signings/near-signings and are just unhappy campers taking out your frustrations on these players for no other reason. Why don’t you simply grouse about the BR re-up?

  134. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    I can’t speak for anyone else posting right now, but I’d prefer two of last years D gone and as long as it isn’t Moore or mcdonut, I could care less. Our d needs to be way grittier than its current vanilla style…enter Falk and hopefully mcilrath so two must go!!!

  135. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    You take out 4.2 mil of mad bomber and stralmans contracts and add about 2.6 (estimate) for Falk and mcilrath and we have 1.5 mil to put towards something else

  136. Wick, I’d prefer to wait and see how our current D play for a new coach before asking the snow angels to change its composition. Some feel it was T’s approach and AV may help with MDZ’s development. I see enough in him to believe it would be a mistake to give up on him at this point in time. As for Stralman, I think he had more bite than some others during the playoffs this year…don’t see any need to move him at $1.4 mils. The youngsters need time to develop. Krug is talented, but he’s not necessarily ready to play full time the way he played against us in the 2nd round when next season comes around…just growling…

  137. Now I’m even more curious if Richards for Crazy Grabovski would have worked.

  138. Happy 4th, Boneheads! Wish I cared about who’s making what with what’s left on the cap… but it’s all a moot point when you’ve got a frosty drink and plan on watching some stuff explode.

  139. Llatonaardvark on

    My favorite memory of this holiday is playing Oregon Trail and having the option to “Celebrate the Fourth.” America!

  140. I’m with James and Wicky. Stralman sucks. I wouldn’t trade Del Zaster though.

  141. Pat Leonard: “Asham battled injury but had two goals in 27 games, fairly regularly providing an effective, physical forecheck on the fourth-line wing. Then, he scored two goals in 10 playoff games but was mysteriously scratched in the final two games of the second round, one of many reasons John Tortorella lost his job after the Rangers were eliminated. Asham has one year at $1 million remaining on his deal.”

    One of the many reasons Torts lost his job? Didn’t know Slats agreed with me on that one. And who was protecting Richards up until the bitter end? Torts, or both of them?

  142. Funny how Stralman is such a split vote. To me, I wouldn’t care if he was traded but I think he is one of the few Sather signings in the last few years that worked out.

  143. Stralman is okay, serviceable, little more. Certainly not untouchable by any means. If any of the top 4 get hurt, they’re thin on effective D. I think they’re likely to keep him unless some cheap rook Dman impresses at camp.

  144. Stralman was underused under Torts, esp. on PP… and Straly was our best dman two postseasons straight.

  145. They would love to see talent and ability from the D kids. For one thing, Del Z will soon be looking for 4+ mil, and Girardi even more than that.

  146. LOL Professional Hockey Writers Association voted Ovechkin to first team all star as a Right Wing, and to the second team as a Left Wing, costing some worthy kid a spot. Only in Amerika.

  147. Embarassing, coos. I gave up my vote this year. Now I’m glad I did.

    They need to fix this this. Either the league declares a winger’s position, or the voters vote for three forwards regardless of position, as baseball does with outfielders.

  148. Rob at the Jersey Shore on

    Couldn’t they just invent some rule that would have moved Ovechkin off the second team in favor of the next vote recipient. Seems silly they actually put him on both teams

  149. Rob – right, shouldn’t be difficult to eat a little crow, issue a correction, and move the next vote-getter up to LW on the second team.

  150. When I read Carp’s “or Fifth,” I chuckled and assumed he was talking about JW Black or Stoli, then I realized that the clock was about to turn. See what happens when you ass-ume?

  151. If I didn’t know better, I would wonder if Slats kept Richie and dumped Clowe to avoid the ignominy of another draft without a second pick. I do know better, don’t I?

  152. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    You could be right, it was all about Gordie complaining about how many picks were made at the draft before we got to pick

  153. Ye get rid of Stralman so you can have Faulk and Mcilrath, two #6/7 dmen playing the 5/6 spot because you want size.

  154. Stralman was good value for his $1.7m last year, i think they will go with the 6 that finished last year plus Columbo, Syvret and McIlrath as 7,8,9 (in that order).
    I dont think they can risk a 3rd pair of 2 borderline NHL players – watching Hammerlick and Eminger paired last season was hide behind the sofa material, having Stralman there to play 3rd pair with Moore and some PP minutes is good for me.

    Certainly looking forward to seeing more Moore and Brassard after the good impressions they made. Given the lack of cap space and removal of Powe/Asham from the mix i’m guessing there are botttom 6 spots for the taking if Miller/Fast/Lindberg/Kristo want to claim them.

  155. King with no Ring on

    Nobody on the roster aside from the Ring-less King is untouchable.

  156. King with no Ring on

    The last time that the Bruins moved a good young player, Kessel, to free up cap space and and acquire prospects, they won the Cup.

    Seguin, like Kessel, did not fit the Bruins mold, neither are the type of player for the style they play. That is the reason Seguin struggled after one good season.

    Seguin is still a great talent and could develop into a special player if he screws his head on right.

    OTOH the Bruins get another two-way banger with scoring touch that will score 25-30 goals, easily replacing Horton. They free up cap space wich will enable them to sign a good FA and Rask. Their shelf is stacked with Soderberg, Hamilton, Knight, Caron + 3 new players they acquired.

    Chiarelli is a top two GM in the league. IMHO Boston will be solid for many years, Seguin will be a star in Dallas.

    A win-win trade.

    That is the objective take on the trade Matteau.

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