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From the NHL:

2013 STANLEY CUP PLAYOFFS EASTERN CONFERENCE FINAL
SERIES M        TIME (ET)        #1 Pittsburgh vs. #4 Boston        Networks
Saturday, June 1                8 p.m.                Boston at Pittsburgh                NBC, CBC, RDS

Monday, June 3                8 p.m.                Boston at Pittsburgh                NBC Sports Network, CBC, RDS

Wednesday, June 5        8 p.m.                Pittsburgh at Boston                NBC Sports Network, CBC, RDS

Friday, June 7                8 p.m.                Pittsburgh at Boston                NBC Sports Network, CBC, RDS

*Sunday, June 9                8 p.m.                Boston at Pittsburgh                NBC Sports Network, CBC, RDS

*Tuesday, June 11        TBD                Pittsburgh at Boston                NBC Sports Network. CBC, RDS

*Wednesday, June 12        TBD                Boston at Pittsburgh                NBC Sports Network, CBC, RDS
2013 STANLEY CUP PLAYOFFS WESTERN CONFERENCE FINAL
SERIES N        TIME (ET)        #1 Chicago vs. #5 Los Angeles                Networks                
Saturday, June 1                5 p.m.                Los Angeles at Chicago                NBC Sports Network, TSN, RDS

Sunday, June 2                8 p.m.                Los Angeles at Chicago                NBC Sports Network, TSN, RDS

Tuesday, June 4                9 p.m.                Chicago at Los Angeles                 NBC Sports Network, TSN, RDS

Thursday, June 6                9 p.m.                Chicago at Los Angeles                NBC Sports Network, CBC, RDS

*Saturday, June 8                8 p.m.                Los Angeles at Chicago                NBC, CBC, RDS

*Monday, June 10        9 p.m.                Chicago at Los Angeles                NBC Sports Network, CBC, RDS

*Wednesday, June 12        TBD                Los Angeles at Chicago                NBC Sports Network, CBC, RDS

* = If necessary
TBD = To Be Determined

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  1. Carp just wanted to say I commend you for being a man, and being humble about the whole coach firing situation. I’m glad you didn’t fall into denial and play the game of I’m right your wrong.

  2. Carped

    I like the idea of Paul Maurice. Yes I know, he hasn’t won, and the Toronto experience was nothing to write home about. But he is very
    thoughtful and expressive on the TSN panels, and he has been through enough playoff wars to warrant interest.

    I will always have a soft spot for what his Canes did to Fatso in the last two minutes of their Game 7 a couple of years ago

  3. Rob in Beantown on

    I posted this on the Carped thread:

    “Being a college coach is way different than being a pro coach. Keith Allain had just 4 NHL draft picks on his Yale roster. The rest are kids that will probably work at Goldman Sachs.”

    It was snarky, but I think the fact remains. The skill set needed to get results from 18-23 year olds is way different than what it takes to get results from professionals. College coaching is a lot of recruiting, mentoring, player development, and it’s a lot of riding the bus. I’m sure there are guys who can make the jump, but what evidence is there that Allain even wants to be that guy? He hasn’t coached in the NHL in years.

  4. From Rotter:

    10AM: According to Larry Brooks in the NY Post, Glen Sather had no intention of firing John Tortorella after the Rangers season ended.

    That changed when “a critical mass” of players told Glen Sather that they felt Tortorella’s overbearing personality and coaching style was standing in the way of progress.

    Brooks says that Henrik Lundqvist’s comments on Monday were the tipping point and that he was bothered by how the dynamic between Tortorella and the players was starting to fade.

    Some other things that Brooks notes:

    It wasn’t the on-ice style of play that cost Tortorella his job, it was that he was taking a harsher approach with the players in the locker room
    The players were afraid to make mistakes on the ice, fearing of what the coach would say/do if they did.
    Tortorella saying, after a loss in Buffalo, that he was disgusted with his top players was not something that was well received in the locker room:

    “I couldn’t be more disgusted or disappointed with how our top guys played, the way we handled ourselves. That team was ripe to be beat and we simply did not play the way we are supposed to play. I don’t know what to tell you.”“We sucked and we sucked at a time where you can’t suck. We need to get it straightened out.”

    In the NY Daily News, Pat Leonard writes that “multiple players” including some “top guys” went to Sather to complain about Tortorella and ask for him to be removed.

  5. I love Messier he’s my favorite player ever, but I don’t think I would like him to coach the Rangers. At least not right now. I would definitely like him to be the GM though, and knowing his and Slats relationship. We might just see that someday.

  6. Rob in Beantown on

    I’d personally feel more comfortable with somebody who has made a commitment to coaching at a pro level. I’d feel more comfortable with an AHL head coach since the style of play is more similar to the NHL than college hockey

  7. Manny then it was inevitable anyway. People where seeing that the players weren’t responding to Torts anymore. So in the end the process was just sped up.

  8. Aren’t you guys excited to have a full coaching staff? Maybe Hank gets Benoit Allaire fired too…

  9. Doodie Machetto on

    Manny, I don’t think he gets fired, but if he did, I think he would be a major coup.

  10. Doodie Machetto on

    Head coach: Ron Low
    Assistant coach: John Muckler
    2nd Assistant: Denis Potvin.

  11. I don’t think Messier distinguished himself in his previous stint as GM, specifically the exiling of Zubov and the McSorley/Kurri additions.

  12. I would love Babcock. Though for the situation I think Ruff would be the best choice.

  13. Rob in Beantown on

    This was supposed to be a rebuilding year for the Red Wings and they were a goal away from the WCF. Babcock has them on the right trajectory. Why would Detroit let him go? This is like earlier in the season when people were proposing trades like Brian Boyle for Bobby Ryan.

  14. *repost* February 24th, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    MattLear

    Here’s an article from the NY Time in July 1992, after the Rangers had won the president’s trophy under Neilson but got bounced by PItt in the playoffs that spring. Messier clearly was not a fan of him due to his defensive reactive style.

    In the article, Messier mentions that they have the skaters to play more up tempo, and if you have the puck 75% of the time, they are going to win.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1992/07/03/sports/hockey-messier-remains-no-big-fan-of-neilson.html?n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fPeople%2fN%2fNeilson%2c%20Roger

  15. I think:
    HC Reg Dunlop
    AC Gordon Bombay
    2nd AC Patches O’Houlihan
    GC Captain Robert Hatch

  16. Wonder if something similar occurred where players on the team didn’t agree with style/approach (although I would be surprised if Capt. Callahan caused any dissension – doesn’t seem to be that kind of person/player)

  17. From the article:
    The clash is one of hockey style, not personality. Neilson is a conservative coach who loosened his system a bit during the regular season to accommodate Messier. Apparently, he did not go far enough. Messier hinted that *Neilson’s playoff strategy was too defensive, too reactive.*

    Messier also bristled at the notion that the team’s problems stemmed from a lack of commitment to defense, a theory that Neilson offered after the Rangers were eliminated by the Penguins in the second round of the playoffs.

    *”When you’ve got a team that can skate like ours, you want to apply pressure all over the ice,” Messier said. “It wasn’t our defensive problems. If we have the puck 75 percent of the time, we’re going to win. Defense doesn’t mean waiting for the other team to bring the puck up.”*

  18. Doodie Machetto on

    Yes, with legendary coach Patches O’Houlihan, we certainly would succeed thanks to the luck of the Irish.

  19. I have been brainstorming who besides Hank and I would assume the guys wearing C’s and A’s would have to be part of it (not counting Richards).

  20. Doodie Machetto on

    I don’t think Callahan is in that group. I wouldn’t be surprised if Nash was.

  21. How could Hagelin have any sway? He’s an RFA. I just don’t think Sather would care if Hagelin complained.

  22. czechthemout!!! on

    Messier was right then and his comments are right now. If you have the puck, the ither team can’t create offense.

    Big hell no to Maurice!

  23. Nah Torts loved Cally. They had a better relationship than most, and Torts brought Cally to the Olympics. I seriously doubt he would have anything to do with it. Lundqvist was probably the biggest factor.

  24. Doodie Machetto on

    KAR, yes, but Nash has a reputation as a coach and GM killer. He didn’t exactly cover himself with glory during the playoffs, either.

  25. Doodie Machetto on

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Kreider and MDZ said something, Kreider probably just a complaint about lack of opportunity, MDZ a complaint of being scared carcilloless about making mistakes, thus leading to an endless cycle of making mistakes.

  26. Rob in Beantown on

    It’d be weird if it were Callahan, McDonagh, or Girardi. They always seemed like “Torts guys.” His favorite players. Et tu Brute?

  27. Doodie Machetto on

    eric, If there was a guy without blemishes he would already have a job and his name would be Mike Babcock.

  28. Nash does not have a reputation as a coach and GM killer. That is simple nonsense.

  29. can’t wait for the charp! should be a lively one today!

    no one on the perspective coaches list is getting me too excited… i think we should put slats back behind the bench, that would be the best. maybe he’ll do that just to spite the guy who asked about his multiple roles

  30. wouldn’t be surprised if the next coach comes out of left field, not on anybody’s list. the next Trottier?

    but I’d go with Ruff or Vigneault, personally. And my personal preference would be Ruff, since I know the type of guy he is, and maybe he’d bring James Patrick with him.

  31. We are going to see a lot more of Babcock next season since the Red Wings will be in the East.

  32. I don’t know how Ruff got the reputation of a defensive coach as well. He altered the playstyle when the team needed a change In order to compete. When the Sabres were a Stanley Cup contender after the season lockout. They were one of the most offensive teams in the league.

  33. Honestly, the only guy in that room that should have any say on who gets fired is Hank. That’s it.

    Pretty disappointing to hear that some guys apparently pushed for the firing. Fuggin babies.

    Nash better not be one of those guys. Mr. Softie can’t possibly have the balls to do that, right? Not after that pathetic playoff performance.

  34. czechthemout!!! on

    I want to add that we need to make changes to incease the speed of the team on the bottom six.

  35. Doodie Machetto on

    For the Ruff enthusiasts: if you think Lundqvist had to do a lot for the Rangers under Torts, just go look at what Hasek had to do every year for the Sabres. Or Miller more recently, but with less success.

    Ruff has always been a defensive guy. The first two years out of the lockout with Drury and Briere where Buffalo played an uptempo game are the outliers.

  36. Sometime Rangers fans and management look like person who wants everything right now and usually get nothing.
    Process same importance as result.

  37. Odd, very profound!

    Except you’ve synthesized the dilemma but don’t know the punch line.

    We get more of the same dreck we’ve gotten for 73&1 and 13&none!

    Not very odd!

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