Panthers at Rangers tonight: Pre-game notes


Could it really, really be 14 years since The Great One retired? April 18, 1999, Wayne Gretzky hung ’em up at Madison Square Garden. Cannot believe it’s been that long. Have the Rangers scored a power-play goal since then?

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Pre-game notes courtesy of the NYR:

Thursday, Apr. 18, 7:00 p.m.
Madison Square Garden – New York, NY

Rangers: 21-17-4 (46 pts)
Panthers: 13-23-6 (32 pts)
The Rangers will face-off against the Florida Panthers at Madison Square Garden (7:00 p.m. — TV: MSG Network; Radio: ESPN 98.7), to begin a back-to-back set. The Blueshirts currently rank third in the Atlantic Division standings, and rank eighth in the Eastern Conference, with a record of 21-17-4 (46 pts). The Rangers enter the contest having been defeated by the Philadelphia Flyers, 4-2, on Tuesday at Wells Fargo Center, and are now 5-2-1 in their last eight games. The Panthers enter the contest with a 13-23-6 (32 pts) record to rank 15th in the Eastern Conference, and have lost four of their last five games. Following tomorrow’s contest, the Rangers will return to action when they face-off against the Buffalo Sabres on Friday, Apr. 19, at First Niagara Center (7:00 p.m.), to complete their back-to-back set.
All-Time: 41-27-6-4 overall (21-14-4-0 at home; 20-13-2-4 on the road)
2013: Tomorrow is the second of three meetings this season, and the second of two meetings at Madison Square Garden. The Rangers are 0-1-0 (0-1-0 at home; 0-0-0 on the road), following a 3-1 loss on Mar. 21 at MSG. Henrik Lundqvist is 0-1-0 with a 2.03 GAA and .913 Sv%.
Last Season: New York was 3-1-0 overall (2-0-0 mark at home; 1-1-0 mark on the road). The Rangers out-scored the Panthers, 14-6, in the series. The Blueshirts’ power play was 3-11 (27.3%), while the penalty kill was 15-16 (93.8%) in four  games. Derek Stepan tallied series-highs in goals (three) and points (five) in four games, while Ryan McDonagh led all skaters with three assists. Henrik Lundqvist was 2-1-0 with a 1.34 GAA and .954 Sv%, and Martin Biron was 1-0-0 with a 1.89 GAA and .905 Sv%.
The Rangers have won eight of their last 12 games against the Panthers, having out-scored Florida, 32-19, over the span
New York is tied for 11th in the NHL with a 13-6-2 (28 pts) record at home; Florida ranks 27th in the NHL with a 6-13-1 (13 pts) mark on the road
The Rangers are 8-3-1 vs. the Southeast Division this season; the Panthers are 5-7-0 vs. the Atlantic Division this season
New York lists one former Panther on their roster: Steve Eminger (2008-09) Florida lists no former Rangers on their roster .
Henrik Lundqvist — 23 GP, 14-8-1, 1.75 GAA, 5 SO
Martin Biron — 22 GP, 8-12-1-0, 2.64 GAA
Brad Richards — 51 GP, 16-28-44
Ryan Callahan — 17 GP, 3-5-8
Derek Stepan — 9 GP, 5-2-7
Dan Girardi — 12 GP, 1-4-5
The Rangers’ power play is 5-25 (20.0%) in the last seven games, compared to 14.3% with the man advantage prior to the trade deadline
The Blueshirts’ penalty kill is 20-22 (90.9%) in the last eight games
New York has registered a point in 16 of 20 games (14-4-2) when not allowing a power play goal
Power Play: The Rangers did not tally a goal in five power play attempts (10:00) on Tuesday at Philadelphia. New York is tied for 20th overall (20-130, 15.4%) and ranks 17th at home (13-67, 19.4%). The Rangers are 3-9 (7:53) in five-on-three situations (last –3/24 vs. WSH), and 2-2 (1:20) when four-on-three (last –4/13 at NYI). Shorthanded goals allowed (4): 2/19 vs. MTL (Diaz, EN); 2/21 at OTT (Silfverberg); 3/3 vs. BUF (Gerbe); 3/21 vs. FLA (Kopecky, EN).
Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts surrendered one goal to the Flyers in two power play attempts (2:18) on Tuesday at Philadelphia. New York ranks 14th overall (109-133, 82.0%) and 13th at home (62-73, 84.9%). The Rangers are 7-7 (8:13) in three-on-five situations (last –4/1 vs. WPG), and 4-4 (4:24) when three-on-four (last –3/18 vs. CAR). Shorthanded goals for (4): 1/20 vs. PIT (Nash); 3/12 at BUF (Stepan); 3/19 at NJD (Del Zotto); 4/1 vs. WPG (Callahan).
Four-on-Four: New York did not skate in a four-on-four situation on Tuesday at Philadelphia, and are now Even in 28 four-on-four situations (60:44) this season. Four-on-four goals for (2): 1/23 vs. BOS (Gaborik); 4/13 at NYI (Girardi). Four-on-four goals allowed (2): 1/20 vs. PIT (Letang); 1/23 vs. BOS (Horton).
The Rangers will begin their sixth and final back-to-back set this season tomorrow against Florida at Madison Square Garden. New York has posted a combined record of 5-4-1 in back-to-back games, including a 3-1-1 (2-0-0 at home; 1-1-1 on the road) record in the first game and a 2-3-0 (0-2-0 at home; 2-1-0 on the road) mark in the second. Henrik Lundqvist has started on consecutive days 64 times in his career, posting a record of 40-17-7 with a 1.91 GAA, .933 Sv% and six shutouts in the second game.
The Rangers have posted a record of 23-6-3 in their last 32 games against Southeast Division opponents, including an 8-3-1 mark against the Southeast Division this season. The Blueshirts have out-scored their Southeast Division opponents, 102-65, over the span.
Henrik Lundqvist turned aside all 29 shots faced to post his first shutout of the season, 44th of his career, in a 1-0 overtime win on Saturday at Long Island. The shutout was Lundqvist’s 50th career total, including six playoff shutouts, tying him with Ed Giacomin as the Rangers’ all-time leader in total shutouts.
The Blueshirts have registered a point in 88 consecutive games when leading after the second period, dating back to the 2009-10 season, posting a record of 82-0-6 over the span. The Rangers’ last regulation loss in a game when entering the third with the lead was Feb. 4, 2010 (6-5 loss vs. WSH). New York is 12-0-0 when leading after the second period this season.
Rangers’ Head Coach John Tortorella recorded his 400th NHL coaching victory with a 5-2 win on Mar. 26 at Philadelphia, becoming the 30th head coach in league history to reach the mark. On Wednesday, Tortorella passed Tom Renney for fourth on the Rangers’ all-time coaching wins list with his 165th victory as the Blueshirts’ head coach.
The Rangers rank among the Eastern Conference leaders in several statistical categories…
3rd (5th in NHL) in GAA — 2.29
1st (1st in NHL) in Fewest PIM/G — 9.3
3rd (4th in NHL) in Hits — 1246
5th (7th in NHL) in BkS — 674
Henrik Lundqvist — has allowed two or fewer goals in 12 of his last 14 games (8-4-2, 1.76 GAA, .935 Sv%, 1 SO over the span)
Derek Stepan — 26 points (12 goals, 14 assists) in the last 24 games, including 10 points (five goals, five assists) in the last eight contests
Derick Brassard — nine points (three goals, six assists) in his last nine games, including seven points (one goal, six assists) in seven games as a Ranger
Ryan Callahan — six points (two goals, four assists) in the last eight games
Ryane Clowe — nine points (two goals, seven assists) in his last 15 games; four points (two goals, two assists) in seven games as a Ranger
Anton Stralman — 2 points from 100th NHL career
Steve Eminger — 2 points from 100th NHL career
INJURIES: Michael Sauer (concussion, 12/5/11) — 42 ; Marc Staal (injured, 3/5) — 21; Derek Dorsett (broken clavicle, 3/7) — 7
Total Man-Games Lost: 109
Apr. 17 — Recalled forward Chris Kreider from Connecticut (AHL)


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  1. Is this thing on? :-)

    Plenty of blame on the blog these days. Expected, I guess. It’s been a disappointing season. Tough to find positives. I’m not willing to give up on this team. They’re in a decent position to get in. And with Hank in goal, I’ll take my chances. Not buying that any of the players gave up on their coach. Nonsense. They underachieved. Most of them. Made many mistakes, including Hank. And including Torts. But they still have time to make up for it. Doesn’t look like they’re in any position to go all the way, but they may be in a position to give their young core another chance to get more playoff experience.

  2. Don’t look now Columbus with gabby arty dubi playoff spot and we may miss. That would be awful

  3. Change of subject slightly – Seattle and Salt Lake for expansion teams when the new conferences kick in?

  4. TGO – my hero of hockey.

    Dubi with the third star last night.

    Underdog is here to save the day. I hope Kreider makes a quantum leap, Tortorella sees this just like last year. “nobody on this team can score kid, go out there and give em hell. wE got you covered.”

  5. tomb, it’s more likely that Kreider plays 2 minutes and is benched the 3rd period than it is for Torts to just let him go out there. You know one little mistake and that’s all the time he’ll see. And it means more time for Powe or Pyatt who are mostly worthless. I’d rather take my chances with a talented kid like Kreider than with those guess who we KNOW aren’t going to give us anything. Keep Powe on the 4th line and let him kill penalties. Not sure what to do with Pyatt. To me, we have to get 10 of the 12 points to be in for sure. And it’s obviously doable. I figure we either lose to the Sabres or one of the NJ games. We win the rest.

  6. Matty"Monster Nash"Boy on

    There has to be knowledge of what the injury to Boyle is…..could someone PLEASE tell the fans??????

  7. Matty"Monster Nash"Boy on

    very cool national anthem in Boston last night.

    again, I have to say, if we duck out early (ha!! I said ‘if’) I may…uh…watch with greater interest the Boston games. might even kind of…if the Rangers are out of it (again, I did say ‘if’)….pull for them a bit. I hope not to get thrown out of the NY/NJ metro area for even thinking that, but Jagr….the emotion this week….I may end up quietly……very quietly…

  8. Matty"Monster Nash"Boy on

    All the boneheads that have problems with Pyatt. I agree. Not only does he just keep mucking along the boards, but the lack of any emotion blows me away. Mitchell had a similar job last year. Every now and then we knew he was out there. A SOG, a big hit, a block. Something. This guy. Nothing. Does he have a pulse?

    Powe, at least, is ok on the PK and hits a few once in a while. He’s, at least, out there and visible to a degree.

    Neither is a good substitute for what we had last year and they are part of the reason for our performance.

  9. Admiral Akbar on

    Great pic of the Great One!

    As a Yankee/Rangers/Giants/Knicks fan, I dont mind the Red Sox and Bruins, whom I view as ‘classic’ franchises with knowledgable fan bases. In fact, I go to more games at Fenway than at Yankee or Citibank Field.

    But I can never see rooting for Pats or Celts..

  10. Rob in Beantown on

    Don’t worry guys, one of either Rangers East or Rangers West will surely make the playoffs.They can’t both miss

  11. Love the pic on top carp….still remember the video tribute with that Natalie merchant song playing” I must be one of the wonders- God’s own creation…”. Maybe Brich gets a hat trick ..or three shots on goal, in his honor

  12. too bad the top of the photo got cropped out … you can see him literally hanging up his skate for the last time, with his name above the locker stall, next to “Leetch” on one side, “Malhotra” on the other.

  13. iCCCP - Who Gives A Puck?! on

    Boyle is a right knee? Richards is a left nut? Gaborik is a left town? Rangers is a right out of playoffs? Carp is left nothing in a plate of spaghetti?

  14. I have always been a Torts supporter but to not at least ask the question when the team comes out flat game after game and generally seems to lack energy, at some point is just blind faith. Ultimately this season is on Sather for dismantling what was a great work in progress, one which Torts gets a lot of credit for helping to build. And certainly it’s on players to give it their all regardless. But as with most things there are multiple factors and given what we’ve seen this season it is not unfair to at least ask the question about Torts as a factor.

  15. Cool picture/story Carp. Everybody go ahead and tell their favorite Gretzky story. We really need a distraction from the Rangers.

  16. 14 years wow, it was like yesterday, Gretzky skating around after the game taking bows while that song “I will remember you” playing. Was pretty emotional.

  17. Honestly, I totally get what you’re saying Matteau! and I don’t completely disagree. But I am going to pin this season mostly on, no training camp, shortened season, etc…

  18. i’m a Tort fan, but the other night in Philly and use of the Kreider has been shaky. Having said that i think he has not lost this team and we are ready for a final push. And as always in every sport who are you going to replace him with. Now fire Sather and replace him with Shoney…there that’s a actual solution.

  19. Gotta get off Tort for his handling of Kreider. Come on. Kreider has been miserable defensively. He was even miserable in the AHL. You can’t knock him for Kreider when he rode JT Miller for months.

  20. Ah Gretzky, was he as good as Sid the Kid? I’ll always remember my Dad took me to see the Rangers play the Flyers in Philly for what I believe was Game 2 of the 1997 playoffs (my numbers could be off there). I wanted to wear my Gretzky jersey so badly but my Dad knew that even I, a little 2nd grader from North Jersey, would get assaulted by the ruthless Flyers fans for wearing one and he told me I shouldn’t wear it. So, I was pretty disappointed I couldn’t wear my teams colors, but it turns out, Mr. Gretzky scored a hat trick that game and the Rangers won, so I forgot all about not wearing the jersey. It was one of my favorite Ranger games I’ve ever been to. Then 2 years later I was lucky enough to see Gretz skate on the ice for the last time.

  21. Manny certainly possible the shortened season a factor. How about this for another factor (together with the others mentioned): is it possible the emotion, grind, and ultimately devastating end, from last season took a toll and had a carry over effect. Mainly guys like Cally, Girardi, McD who I still would not trade for anything but who seem slightly off from last year.

  22. I’ll let you in on a little piece of Intell i picked up yesterday while commuting. Heard it from a very good source, boot black at Penn Station where Slats has his shoes shined regularly. If the Rangers fail to make the playoffs, a huge overhaul will occur in the off season. The only ones who will be spared are Torts, Richards, No Powe, Slow Clowe and Boiler.

  23. Great source, Papa! I wonder if the guy told Slats to go get his own byfuglien shine box?

  24. Florida 2-1 tonight. Even the optimistic people know this is a game we lose. The isles and jets blew the doors off this team in last week. No doubt we are in a struggle late 3rd pet tonight.

    Expect the worst pray for the best the life of ranger fans

  25. Hockeyman Rangers on

    It really is time for Richards to do something. Other than to skate it in the opponets zone and lose or turn it over. Tort’s keeps saying that “Richie will find his game”
    IT HASN’T HAPPEND YET??????????? Does the team finally play with some desparation tonight???????

  26. Sioux-per-man on

    Great pic of the Great one. I have those those same skates!!! No need for another pair :)

  27. He did ILB. But Slats told him, “No more shines Billy. maybe you didn’t hear…..I don’t shine shoes anymore”

  28. On Boston. The ONLY Boston team I can’t stand is the Red Sox. I used to hate the Bruins as a kid, when they were the Rangers chief rival (Park vs. Orr days), but over time they have been replaced by my hatred of the F-ers, Isles and Devils, and more recently Pens (because of Cindy). So I kind of like the Bruins and I have a few friends who are Bruins fans. Pats, I don’t care about…I only know we beat them 2x in the SB, and I like Brady. Celts? Not a big hoops fan, but I loved watching them in the height of the Bird era.

    As for Krieder…he’s a kid!! Defense for a forward is the hardest thing to learn for most forwards and most don’t have an instinct for it young. The problem is, when you play with fear of making a mistake, you’re gonna make MORE mistakes because you’re too tentative. Let him play!! If nothing else, throw him on every power play, like the Rangers did years ago with Marcel Dionne, when he couldn’t hold a regular shift anymore.

  29. Cross Check Charlie on

    Papa Bear – that’s all the team needs is another overhaul. (s)

    This organization goes about things the wrong way. It’s always about acquiring other teams’ players.

  30. Sioux-per-man on

    Hank has his 2nd shutout tonight.

    Rangers Role at home 3-0. Kreider gets a goal!

    Carp gets not one but 2 hot dogs with extra Eric on them!

  31. iCCCP - Who Gives A Puck?! on

    Not buying no camp excuse… Not buying it at all.

    Having full Torts camp doesn’t mean anything as evident by all of the previous seasons (except last one) Torts has been here. Same inconsistency game in and game out.

  32. If the problem with Richards was primarily due to his lack of being in shape at the start of the season, the expiration date on that excuse has long since passed. The team has played more than 40 games and he should have played his way into shape by or around the 10th game of the season. In my opinion, his level of play has spiraled downward as the season progressed and can’t be excused as lockout related.

  33. Cross Check Charlie on

    Not buying it either CCCP. Not after 42 games. Nobody else had a training camp either and while a team like Washington exploded after a really rough start, just about all of the good teams performed as expected.

  34. Jeff in South Dakota on

    I miss TGO too! I met him in SLC, UT in the very early ’80s when he was just a kid. Then went to a Rangers game in St. Louis in ’99. In my book, there will never be anyone better, a pure scorer, in the game. (A real life Roy Hobbs!)

  35. This team stinks, no other way to sugar coat it. I’m fed up with all the excuses. There is only one explanation, this team isn’t that good and as long as Sather is GM nothing will change, the rangers will be a mediocre team. It’s that simple.

  36. Doodie Machezzik, unemployed in Greenland, 1.5 on

    @ You can’t knock him for Kreider when he rode JT Miller for months.@

    But we can knock Sather for being a dunce.

  37. Are we not men? Youse guys are spending way too much time man-crushing on Wayne, and no where near enough time marvelling at his daughter….

  38. Doodie Machezzik, unemployed in Greenland, 1.5 on

    @ Youse guys are spending way too much time man-crushing on Wayne, and no where near enough time marvelling at his daughter….@

    Where oh where is impostORR!?

  39. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    Nice salute after the Bruins-Sabres games last night. Hockey players/teams, in general, just “get it”.

  40. Paulina Gretzky = Gift to the Human Race

    Matteau! I would hope that the end of last season would inspire this crew. Maybe the injury to Staal really hurt them, mentally.

  41. While one cannot help but marvel at the beauty of Paulina Gretzky…

    I can’t separate pictures of her now from the sight of that little girl crying in the stands at Wayne’s last game.

    So, yeah, in deference to The Great One I try not to drool over his daughter.

    I’ll keep my mind on my other girl crushes at the moment –

    Gina Carano or Jessica Alba :-)

  42. Since we are critiquing everything, I might add that Paulina Gretzky is a little weak on the back end. Not exactly my type.

  43. Did someone mention expansion?

    Check the standings, hockey like all pro sports needs contraction, expansion is all about more money for existing franchises not quality play.

    Why if we were back in the era of the “Original Six”we would have had Gretzky, Messier, Kurri, Anderson, Fuhr, Coffey and Lowe right?

    Instead we have the senile Sappy one now who hasn’t seen success since the last century guiding our “miss” fortunes……except in the case of all those FA’s he’s made very rich!

  44. Rob in Beantown on

    A non-negligible number of people seem to think Biron will start tomorrow night. Makes no sense to me.

  45. iCCCP - Who Gives A Puck?! on


    Vibin’ on the back side. Thin girls with bodies of 13 year old boys don’t tickle my pickle…

    GTO’s daughter is skanky looking, anyway.

  46. Do you guys think that Kreider getting the recall over someone who, say, replaced Boyle, means that the offensive style is going to change?

  47. Rob in Beantown on

    Andrew Gross says Boyle out indefinitely with the dreaded “lower-body injury”

  48. Rob in Beantown on

    There are now exactly two kinds of injuries in hockey. “Upper body” and “Lower body”

  49. 4-1 win tonight, late goal spoils shutout, happiness abound. I still say some are injured, not 100% While we’re piling on….remember our captain a few years ago? Is this the kind of play and production we envisioned 2013? He is not a difference maker. Nash ain’t Nash etc etc. Last year gave us a false sense of hope. Lundquist was sensational. Even then our margin of victories were razor thin. So perhaps the talent just ain’t there. Answer? e) all of the above

  50. czechthemout!!! on


    I hope they go more offense.

    Also, send Mcd and Moire into the zone more. They skate so well that they can easily get back.

    They will survive not having Biyle, trust me.

  51. Wicky©Love the Clowe!! on

    nice choices!!

    Wouldn’t it be funny if dorsett played tonight as well as kreider!

    I love the Boston anthem and tributes (including the joint stick salute at the end), but IMHO that is how every national anthem should be done prior to every game, not just after a tragedy!

  52. I don’t think Dorsett would have been bag skated if he was playing tonight. But I would be happy about it.

  53. Rob in Beantown on

    Katie Strang says Dorsett won’t even start doing shooting drills until next week, so I highly doubt he plays tonight or in the very near future.

  54. I hear that in honor of #99 tonight, the Rangers D men are going to allow the Panthers to get behind our net on the PP (while keeping their backs to them)

  55. WONG update: @ChrisBottaNHL Charles *Wang* at #sbjsff – as long as he owns the team, it will be called the NY Islanders and the crest won’t be messed with.

  56. Rob in Beantown on

    For the record, I don’t see the point in using that tool I posted. All I know and care about is the Rangers need to win and get points.

  57. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    _GTO’s daughter is skanky looking, anyway_

    Yes, in the way that you wouldn’t want to bring her home to mom, but you wouldn’t mind getting a lower body injury from her.

  58. czechthemout!!! on

    I could not put a name on who John Moore reminded me of. Than it came to me. I think he is like James Patrick. Played 10+ very good to great seasons for us. If Moore is like him than that trade for Gabby would have been more than worth it.

  59. Pretty sure you would _receive_ the lower body injury. Nothing a little shot couldn’t clear up though.

  60. I think my lasting memory of Gretzky’s farewell was the Rangers, as they so often did in those days, losing the game (in OT on a Jagr goal, iirc).

  61. The math isn’t that complex. They play their game in hand on both the Jets and Fishsticks tomorrow. Win that one, and stay with the Jets thereafter- they’re in. If, at the same time they gain one point on theIslanders along the way, they finish 7th. Providing the Fishstiks don’t get more ROW than us. Tough to see them getting 6th at the moment.

  62. goodbye Columbus on

    Not a good sign for Nash that his old team is overachieving without him, and that his new team is underachieving while he coasts lazily on some shifts and gets benched to start PPs.

    Nash has to get rid of the star attitude and start playing like he is capable of. Combine his skill with more hustle and determination.

  63. Sioux-per-man on

    I think Moore is going to grow into the best player of the trade. I love the way the kid skates, has a great first pass out of the zone, has a decent shot from the blue line, and if he can lay a few more “Cooke” type hits. He is going to be fan favorite for sure.

  64. I hope some of team reads this blog because up until now they don’t pass well, hit much or block shots no snow angels count Its time for each player to bear down and play hard and grow a pair. They should be in game shape and no excuses.

  65. iCCCP - Who Gives A Puck?! on

    I came across a lot of things in my life time but never a newspaper :)

  66. Sioux-per-man on

    Nash’s wrist got slashed in Toronto, perhaps he isn’t 100%. But he has been a treat to watch this year, WHEN he is HEALTHY. Don’t worry he will turn it up another notch come playoffs!!!

  67. Good afternoon all! Here’s hoping the kitties get declawed tonight.

    C3, you get a virtual newspaper across the nose for that comment :)

  68. “Nash has to get rid of the star attitude”

    yah, okay buddy…

    I actually feel terrib;e for him…he thought he was coming to a contender.

    He’s been as good as advertised, and then some. It’s the rest of the organization that has not delivered their end of the bargain.

    You think any star played would DEMAND a trade to NYR right now? Keep joking yourself. We were lucky to get this guy when we did.

    Nash was NOT brought here to carry this team on his back. He was brought in to score his 30 goals in big moments, and he has done exactly that, despite no #1 center. It’s a shame and a sin if fans have the nerve to turn on this guy right now. He’s been awesome…just imagine if we’d let CBJ have Kreider at the deadline last year to get Nash. We might still be defending Cup Champs at this very moment.

  69. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    That guys has a similar name to this Rich CaPRiniello guy that Charps.

  70. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    Let’s try that again:

    That guy has a similar name to this Rick CaPRiniello guy that Charps.

  71. Florida 4-2. With the fourth goal an empty- netter. This Rangers team is beyond Miami’s bush league. This team can’t compete against a mite team.

  72. we will need the isles if they win to win another game in shootout so we could catch them. as it is we are 2 behind them for ROW wins.

    we lose ROW wins to jets which is the obvious being 3 behind them now

  73. here we are sweating a game against the panthers at the end of the season desperate for points and chasing the icelanders. Rangers hockey at it’s finest.

  74. Cross Check Charlie on

    “He’s been as good as advertised, and then some. It’s the rest of the organization that has not delivered their end of the bargain.”

    Agree with that whole post 100%.

    Blaming Nash for the team being mired in mediocrity is just plain foolish.

  75. Salty – 100% agree re: Nash-er.

    Most sane comment this boards seen in…. a long time.

  76. Sioux-per-man on

    Kreider’s back in town.

    No worries Boys!!! Nice to see up before the playoffs. Sorry Boyle got injured, but between Boyle & Pyatt one of them would have to make room for the Kreider sooner or later.

    Now close your eyes and score some more GOALS!!!!

  77. iCCCP - Who Gives A Puck?! on

    Nice “Ron Jeremy” ‘stache there, Carpy! So young! So full of promise! :D

  78. Sioux-per-man on

    Salty – if only we could put Nash on last years team!!!
    I beleive this team goes toe – toe with the Kings! And there is only one KING at MSG. Henrik would have stole the series against LA.

  79. Sioux-per-man on

    I like Kreiders answers to his interviews!

    Kid has his head on his shoulders!!

    Goes “down” with a mind set – “To help them win Hockey WIN hockey games”. He’s never down, and very humble.

    Nice to have both Kreider & Nash. Perhaps we win the Cup THIS year!!!

  80. You put Nash on last years team and I think we get though those first 2 series’ a little quicker too.

    It’s such a sin that we get Rick Nash on this team and suddenly THIRTY TWO YEAR OLD Brad Richards looks like the ghost of someone who never existed. A ghost of a blind backhand passing bastard fawn that can’t skate at the NHL level.

    It’s a sin that a kid like Chris Kreider didn’t TAKE ADVANTAGE of his experience in the NHL playoffs under Tortorella and make sure to hone all of the things it takes to be a successful Ranger during his OPPORTUNITY to play in the AHL during the lock out. That is an OPPORTUNITY that most NHL players were not afforded, and Chris Kreider effectively squandered. He would not have even cracked this lineup on opening night had he not already scored a some goals in the playoffs. I wish he wasn’t called up right now, I’d like to see how he spent his summer after ending the year tasting Whale oil, then maybe he’d get it.

  81. Kreider:

    On his patience with going up and down, “It’s not an issue. Every single day I get to play hockey so I am pretty blessed. I think it’s always on my mind, but it’s not something I harped on or wallowed with. It’s a motivating factor and something that is in the back of your mind but you focus on the day to day stuff.”


    I hate that. He has no venom. He knows the team is invested in him at this point, he’s not worried about a damn thing. He wasn’t worried in October, and he’s especially not worried now that he’s been called back up again. I think he’s lucky JT Miller’s got a bad hand.

  82. so you think it would be wise for a guy who the coach is willing to jettison at the drop of a hat to mouth off about his playing time

  83. UK Ranger, let’s all pray that Seattle gets a team so I no longer have to drive 2 hours, pay for a hotel room and $100+ for a ticket just to see one or two games a season!

  84. Gleam of ice, and glint of steel,
    Jolly, snappy weather;
    Glide on ice with joy and zeal
    But don’t forget to seal the deal.

  85. Sioux-per-man on

    Salty – I think both Kreider & Miller could have used a full training camp with the Rangers. He has the skills, the speed, and the hands to score. He’s won championships at every level. He is a top prospect for sure. Not every 20 – 21 year old kid is going to light it up in the NHL thier 1’st year.

    Give it time. It’s his first year as a pro. He’s brought up to score, use his speed like Hags, and play simple North South Hockey. No mistakes. I agree he needs to play the body more, give the kid a chance to get some confidence going. He’ll deliver the goods – hopefully sooner than later :)

  86. If Kreider can take the body like he did in the Devils’ series last year and use his speed, not scoring goals won’t hurt him as much as it does when he just stands on the ice and watches the game.

  87. I don’t care if The Kreider scores right now as long as he looks engaged and uses his huge body to plaster some d-men. I can even live with the occasional defensive lapse in that case. If he starts using his body as an asset he will stick with the team and the scoring will come as a result.

  88. Sioux-per-man on

    I see a team in Seattle & Kansas City some day!

    But if Phoenix cant find an owner or pay it’s bills, that team will be the 1’st to be moved.

  89. DO NOT give up control of the puck unless you have exhausted all other possibilities. Follow the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

  90. Sioux-per-man on

    Carp – Is there any HOPE that Richards will come out of his shell? And at least be the player he was last year.

  91. Between An Evrock And A Hard Place on

    I guess we now know where Dubi got the inspiration for his playoff ‘stache from.

    BTW, what the heck is “The Daily Times”? lol

  92. Rob in Beantown on

    Instead of adding two teams they should contract two. I suggest starting with the Rangers

  93. Coos, no expansion except the door to show Buttman out be enlarged!

    Are you in advertising with all these mini poetic posts or just a Lit major? ;)

  94. Manny, are you presently working in the league office or is this part of your resume’ sent to Buttman??? ;)

  95. at this point of season who cares who does what. if 2 pts isnt accomplished nothing else matters

  96. Question asked of Scott Fitzgerald: “Are you working yet, or still doing the writing?”

  97. Rob in Beantown on

    Seriously though, I agree with Manny. If we’re adding teams they should be preferably be North of the border, and certainly not south of the Mason-Dixon line

  98. czechthemout!!! on


    Did Kreider piss in your coffe or something? You never miss a chance to be critical of him. Even last year when he first joinef them before he ever played a single game.

    Just curious.

  99. Yup. That’s it. Kreider came to my work and pee’d in my coffee.

    No, what actually happened is that I watch the game with a critical eye. I also drove to Hartford to see the kid in the AHL. My opinions of his lack of defensive responsibility come from observing his play on the ice. On this team, I don’t get him being called up, in crunch time, to replace Boyle, unless the Rangers become a much less defensively oriented team.

  100. czechthemout!!! on

    Right, Kreider should say something provactive publicly so that the coach who benches him if he looks the wrong way can have a reason to do so. Makes sense to me.

  101. Torts: “get this **** guy Manny on the bench with us. I like how he **** thinks”

  102. czech:

    I said pretty much exactly the same thing about 35 minutes ago.

    have to laugh at people who look to these guys statement to be indicative of fire – I wonder if they consider Ryan Callahan to be the least passionate player on the Rangers.

  103. czechthemout!!! on


    In your opinion, does a forward have to only be defensively responsible in order to earn your approval or does he also have to be offesively responsible too? I mean after all, a forward has to, no?

  104. just has to pin the puck to the wall every shift and win an occasional faceoff. anything beyond that is gravy.

  105. czechthemout!!! on


    I know, right? Kreider gave a typical boiler plate hockey player response to a question. He hss not earned the right to stirr up any controversy yet.

  106. Czech:

    The vast majority of these guys (literally) swallow their bottom lip and spew nothing but cliches in interviews. Dunno if it’s the Canadian influence or whatever, but I’m sure you’ve noticed how most hockey players sound exactly the same and do their utmost to never ruffle any feathers. A hockey player showing passion is, “I’ve got to be better next time to help my team.” Zzzzzz

  107. sioux

    the deal is we are in MUST WIN MODE. playing the 30th place team on home ice. im sure people think tonight = del zaster. its florida everyone feast on. people are tense

  108. I love that you’re all over me about it, Czech. I think the Rangers organization might agree with me. This isn’t Tampa Bay, the Rangers play a system where you cannot give up goals because of young mistakes. Kreider is only 21 and he needs to develop before he can join a team like this and be responsible.

    You seem to have more of a problem with the system. So you should voice it as such. Either that or you just don’t understand the system that the Rangers play at all.

  109. I’m ready, James. I think I would be really great as a professional hockey player. What with my pacemaker and all…

  110. I guarantee the Rangers win this game tonight. I’m not promising it will be pretty, but they’ll come away with two much-needed points.

  111. czechthemout!!! on


    It is because so many of us expected this team to contend for the cup this year. Instead, here we are , fighting to get into the playoffs with .500 record again. Waiting to play the worst team in the league and not sure if we can even win tonight. This season has been an abject failure so far and many of us want blood! Especially when in my opinion and a majority of others our roster this year is much better than it was last year. I mean even after a trade that increased the depth of the team has lost its initial mental boost.

    There are no more excuses. Only excuse makers.

  112. czechthemout!!! on


    You need to calm down. I am not all over you. I simply asked a question.

    I have voiced my opinion on the “system” many times. They don’t have a system. They play the same dump and change board/ wall hockey crap that Renney played. Relying on your goalie night sfter night to steal games for you is not a system.

  113. I’m just honestly learning to loathe players that come to the NHL through the college system. Boyle, Gilroy, Kreider…these guys can’t handle the NHL.

  114. If this group of amateur-hour clowns doesn’t win tonight, then they don’t deserve to make the playoffs.

    And as a note, Columbus might finish higher than the Rangers. That’s funny to me.

  115. Rangers without Rick Nash: 1st place
    Rangers with Rick Nash: 8th place and fighting to keep that

    We are clearly a much better team with Rick Nash.

  116. I don’t know……which was the worse team, the one where Anson Carter used to stroll around the ice, while Tom Poti gave his best impression of Malik the “Sentinel” and used to play defense over in the far corner and watch the action, or what has been going on lately out here on the ice where fumbalitus has been the principal activity regardless of the zone they happened to be caught up in? we shall probably be able to answer these questions to our selves after the final whistle of this game. And I’ve never been sold on Tortorella as a coach from day one. I don’t think that he handles his players properly, and I simply do not understand why so many of the shooters on this team simply can’t put the puck on the goal. My biggest reason for tolerating him at all is because he is not Renney. I’m not going to pick any players to criticize…there’s enough of that going on already.

  117. how about some honesty

    Rangers with Brian Boyle, Taylor Pyatt, Darroll Powe, Brad Richards: 8th place and fighting to keep that

  118. Salty should say Hockey East. Hasn’t produced too many great players over the last decade. Some solid ones and guys who can stay in the NHL, but I can’t even remember the last guy who went to a Hockey East school and was considered a top player. Might have to go as far back as Gionta.

  119. Lloyd – that was honesty. More honesty:

    Rangers with Brian Boyle/Brad Richards – 1st place last year.

  120. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Hey Fran – how did you like the rangers horrid passing last game? As I watched it, and became more and more disgusted, I thought of you….

  121. Saying the Rangers don’t play any “system” makes it worthless to acknowledge you, Czech. The Rangers don’t rely on their goalie. That isn’t how dump and chase hockey works. Forget it. You’re clueless.

  122. “Salty, what about Stepan, McDonagh, and Hagelin?”


    Honestly? They’re okay. Step has helped keep this team afloat. Hagelin is one of the few players that seems to give 100% each night and has been good. McD is a special defenseman.

    But not a single one of them has an ounce of SNARL in their bones, because they never had to have it on their way up. Never playing against nasty canadian boys with nothing else going for them besides playing dirty hockey. That’s just not the case with guys who come through juniors, who come through the Q and the OHL, etc.

    I believe Callahan is the bulldog player he is today because he’s an American that went through the Canadian process rather than the NCAA.

  123. Really interesting take, Salty. Thanks. That actually makes a lot of sense, at least right off the bat. OHL is a great place to get players from it seems.

  124. Brad Richards 2011-12: Arguable best season of career
    Brad Richards 2013: Inarguable worst season of career

    do you blame that on Nash, too

  125. Manny,

    Did you just say the Rangers don’t rely on their goalie while saying it was worthless to acknowledge someone else because of a flawed opinion

  126. Rob in Beantown on

    Salty, fair enough. I agree there are differences in the styles of play and, on average, the kinds of players come out of each route to the pros. But I’m also sure we could think of some college guys with snarl and some Ontario boys without.

  127. The Rangers do not rely on their goalie to steal games. While he might steal a game from time to time, the system itself is not built on that premise.

    Without geting into their “system” in depth, it’s obvious, to both admirers and detractors alike, that the Rangers play a very defensive minded style of hockey that relies on getting pucks deep and winning puck battles on the forecheck. That is not the type of hockey system that leads to asking your goalie to win you a game. The style of hockey in which a team would rely solely on it’s goaltender would be a system in which the team plays a high flying offensive system thus leaving their goaltender on his own for many of the opposing teams scoring chances.

    The Rangers always have players protecting their net and ready to get back and assist their goaltender. Thus, Hank is never left alone to win a game for them.

  128. Manny, I hate to do this but the Rangers ultimately are successful when Henrik Lundqvist stands on his head. You can talk until you’re blue in the face about Tortorella and his system. For anyone who’s watched these games, when Tortorella is mediocre, no matter how much pinning the puck to the boards is going on, the Rangers aren’t going to win. When Lundqvist plays great, the Rangers are more likely than not going to win. That goes for whether the Rangers “system” results in 15 shots on goal or 45. This team doesn’t win without Henrik Lundqvist period.

  129. Matty"Sather should have known better"Boy on

    Man, I wish we still had Gretzky.

    Sather could trade him for…..let’s say…a couple of 3rd rounders and a #6 d-man.

  130. RE: Jonathan Quick/Hockey East, etc

    Goalies don’t count for anything to me. They are merely a necessary evil. They are all creeps, and freaks, and insane. I think it takes a serious glitch in the mind to make a successful goalie most of the time. I hate ’em.

    Glad we have a pretty good one right now that is somehow maintaining the image of some perfect James Bond persona. You know he’s a creep deep down though. You know it. Think about the actresses on his mask. Think about the glitter.

    Glitter. Actresses. Glitter. Crowns. Glitter. Cursive. Glitter.


    Needs more glitter.

  131. with the goalie we have and his performances so far, we should be comfortably in a playoff spot. defense has been the biggest letdown. yes, offense too, but our d is not what it was last year. the pk and defense saved us last year. right now, we need staal back real bad.

  132. Lloyd – no dispute about the importance of Hank. I love the guy. Best goaltender in the world (arguably). He’s a huge part of the success. I am talking about the theory of the system. Which the Rangers have not been executing this season.

  133. Kenny Albert Rules! on

    Amazing when you look back at those Oilers teams during the 80s. Paul Coffey scoring 48 goals one season. Just insane.

  134. hahaha “when Tortorella is mediocre” should have been “when Lundqvist is mediocre”

    I secretly fantasize about Tortorella replacing Biron

  135. I don’t think Tortorella was particularly good this season up until about 2 weeks ago. What we’ve seen from him lately looks like a guy at the top of his game, and the guy this team, as constructed (with minimal offensive talents), needs in order to win hockey games. Lundqvist was not consistently the Rangers best player for the vast majority of games until a few backs and since then he usually has been.

  136. Kenny Albert Rules! on

    I agree to an extent Manny and Grabby. There does come a point when the Offense is responsible for putting pucks in the net. We are top 5 in GA for crying out loud.

  137. I don’t disagree, Kenny. But I think the offense stems from good defense. When our guys aren’t winning forecheck battles they end up spending too much time on their heals and not enough time creating scoring chances which are derived from winning puck battles, setting up offensive triangles and pounding away at the puck.

  138. Kenny Albert Rules! on

    Brings me back to the point Carp continues to make saying your best players need to be your best at this point during the season. Time for Nash and Callahan and Richards to follow through a little bit more.

  139. accurate description of the Ranger system is that they’ll score a lot of bad goals as result of application of steady, strong defensive pressure. Rangers will hound opposition, take away shooting alleys, forecheck aggressively and block tons of shots. inaccurate description is that the Rangers win games for reasons other than Henrik Lundqvist.

  140. we need our coach to play kreider more than asham and pyatt. if he does that, then there is hope left for our psychotic coach

  141. will say for the umpteenth time that the guaranteed roster spot for Taylor Pyatt has turned into one of the great mysteries of the 2013 season.

  142. Sioux-per-man on

    Rangers back on track tonight.

    Ranger will dominate every facet of the game tonight. Nash, Cally, & Kreider all get goals!!!

    This team gets into the playoffs, so we didn’t go into the playoffs in 1’st place like last year. Big deal. We get in! We will be a tuff team to beat with Henrik in the net.

    Rangers play playoff hockey the rest of the way!

    No worries.

  143. So the Senators are getting Karlsson back for the playoffs. Looks like he could be back in a week or so. That’s scary.

  144. yes manny, our offense stems from the defense. thats why john moore and mcdonagh should be on the pp more. dan girardi got 6 minutes of pp time last game, when mcdonagh and moore got 2 minutes combined. thats what i heard on blueshirt underground radio last night

  145. Nash and Callahan have been fine, and you’re braindead if you still think Brad Richards good for anything aside from making glue out of his hooves at this point.

    It’s over. The sad reality is that he’s bring the team down, and if anyone is “tuning the coach out”, it’s probably because he keeps putting that corpse out on the ice at key times.

  146. I will say this in defense of Girardi on the PP: the guy hits the net. Unlike 90% of the team which shoots wide over and over, Girardi is not hung up on how hard he can shoot. He sacrifices power for aim and I think that plays into it.

  147. I don’t really care if Pyatt scores. He has one job: to win puck battles. When he starts failing at that is when I get worried. He really, really hasn’t been good in that category.

  148. One of the reasons the Staal injury was such a big deal was because he’d actually started getting his sot through with some regularity – and his shot has more zip on it than Girardi. You’re probably right that despite the lack of power, Girardi is capable of at least shooting accurately; that is tempered by the fact that Girardi’s shots are often blocked or deflected because they’re not terribly fast. The rest of them, though…damn. Not a one that can hit the broad side of a barn.

  149. Yes, Lloyd. My biggest pet pieve is when someone shoots into a defenders shins on the PP. Have to get pucks through to the net where you have a numbers advantage around the cage. You don’t have that advantage up high.

  150. No, Salty. I posted the link to the day he was traded recently (July 1, 2012) to prove that some of us cared.

  151. Rob in Beantown on

    Panthers starting goaltender is Scott Clemmensen.

    3.50 GAA
    .880 SV%


  152. Rob – a goalie that is playing that poorly spells disaster for the Rangers. And with regard to getting pucks on net, Spoiler alert, they won’t.

  153. pyatt is useless manny. sorry. he’s capable of more than just winning puck battles. he has to score at least once in awhile. i know, its not the reason why we suck, but hes just another guy that doesnt contribute. 1 goal in 33 games. 1!!!

  154. Not a Pyatt fan at all, Grabby. But honestly. I was really happy when they signed him. I was way off. Thought he would be an improvement over Boyle. Like a Boyle that played his size. Sheesh.

  155. Pyatt hasn’t had a point in the last 24 games. Added to which he’s been a complete non-factor in every aspect of hockey for about 30 games this season. But he’s got his spot in the lineup cemented. It’s a bit strange.

  156. Not sure about this, but ill throw it out for consumption. Our boys seem to struggle completing headman passes in the neutral zone. Sometimes the pass is errant, sometimes the pass is on target but not received properly.

  157. Sioux-per-man on

    This teams goals rest on Nash, Richards, Callahan, Stepan, & Hagelin. I would be nice to have some second hand scoring from Brassard, Zucc, & Kreider. With the D chipping in from the blueline.

    Any scoring from the 4th line is Gravy! Just don’t get scored on.

  158. Manny, you’re rapidly becoming one of the saner voices on this blog ….despite the occasional lapse.;)

    Lloyd Braun, you on the other hand have me mesmerized with your strategic suggestions and view of the coach as “mediocre”.

    Do you think he was viewed as such when he won the Cup?

    And btw how many coaches for the Rangers have won Cups?

    Does this suggest to you that perhaps coaching is over rated when you have a mediocre GM who provides mediocre players?

    And do you remember how one of the best Gm’s in the game canned Claude Julien because he didn’t win?
    …then did?

    Do you think Scotty Bowman could win the Cup with this band aid bottom six and glaring scoring holes on every line and an exhausted D of modest size and strength?

    Please respond at your leisure. Thank you.

  159. Lloyd, your being kind. Pyatt has been a brutal addition to this team. What a miscalculation by management.

  160. Sioux-per-man on

    Forgot about Clowe. He needs more games like his first game!!!

    I’ll have to follow the twitter widget tonight, no game to be found in the Wild Wild West :(

  161. Nice pic, Salty. Frightening. Somebody just said I look better with no hair that with that pile of hair way up high on my head.

  162. I didn’t say anything about Tortorella being mediocre…perhaps you’re referring to when I was talking about Lundqvist’s play earlier and typo’d by putting in Tortorella’s name instead

  163. better chance of Carp putting “Boyle = Monster” in tomorrow’s summary of the game than Pyatt scoring 3 goals

  164. LLoyd, mea culpa….but send that post to all the coaching “experts”!

    Sioux, if Slow Clowe had played for his former team like he did in his first game with us….he wouldn’t be here!

    Grabby, 225lbs. of blue twisted steel! ;)

  165. Tommy G., Pyatt is a symptom not the disease.

    Must I repeat where the disease emanates from, you know the “fish thing”!

  166. Clemmenson in net, maybe Dineen has been instructed to lay down for a draft pick……do we have any picks left? ;)

  167. The coach fails to alter the style of play when it is needed. Or the palyers are braindead to switch. I tend to think it’s the coaching. Even the last game vs philly. All laviolette did when he called the timeout was tell his team to standup at the blueline. Rangers failed over an 8 min time to dump and chase. Rather than carry over the blue line.

  168. A garden snake could have won the Cup with the roster Tortorella had in Tampa Bay- his winning one Cup does not make him a great coach. So I guess Sather was a great coach too? That team could have had no one coaching them and would have done the same thing. Face it Torts has to go.

  169. A great point was made last night on the radio and it stuck with me all day at work. This team is just not good. Even the wins don’t feel good. They are blah wins. The losses make us crazy and the wins don’t enliven us. It is a constant state of disgust. Look at the benches of other teams. They look like they’re having fun, laughing joking during wins. Feeling good about themselves, this team has the life sucked out of them. They all look like a bunch of Ebenezers and Jacob Marleys. Morose and clueless at the same time.

  170. Sioux says Rangers in 7 on

    Carp – I love this picture!

    Best part is the skates!

    I have the same pair, I needed new one when I bought my son his 1’st pair of skates. Little did I know that my used pair for $40 would be the same skates THE GREAT ONE wore. My son pointed it out to me, “Hey dad, I didn’t know you wore the same skates as Gretzky.”

    It’s the little things :)

  171. Sioux says Rangers in 7 on

    And now a little over a year later, our team is in the Stanley Cup Finals :)

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