Henrik Lundqvist is fine; Jets at Rangers tonight: Pre-game notes


No April Fools joke today.

Yesterday I mentioned that there had been a lot of chatter in Canada that Henrik Lundqvist was being checked for a concussion after complaining about headaches and not feeling well following an elbow by Dan Girardi and a shot by Mike Ribeiro last week. I have been assured by the team, in no uncertain terms that such talk was “100 percent inaccurate and false.”

So there you have it. You can expect Lundqvist to play tonight, and I’m thinking probably all of the remaining Rangers games until they mathematically clinch a playoff berth or are eliminated.

Pre-game notes courtesy of the NYR:

Monday, Apr. 1, 7:00 p.m.
Madison Square Garden – New York, NY
Rangers: 16-15-3 (35 pts)
Jets: 18-16-2 (38 pts)

The Rangers will face-off against the Winnipeg Jets at Madison Square Garden (7:00 p.m. — TV: MSG Network; Radio: ESPN 98.7). The Blueshirts currently rank third in the Atlantic Division standings, and rank eighth in the Eastern Conference, with a record of 16-15-3 (35 pts). The Rangers enter the contest having been defeated by the Montreal Canadiens, 3-0, on Saturday at Bell Centre, to complete their three-game road trip with a 1-2-0 record. New York has recorded a point in five of their last seven games at MSG (4-2-1). The Jets enter the contest with an 18-16-2 (38 pts) record to rank third in the Eastern Conference, and have lost five of their last eight games. Following tonight’s contest, the Rangers will return to action when they face-off against the Pittsburgh Penguins on Wednesday, Apr. 3, at Madison Square Garden (7:30 p.m.), in an Atlantic Division matchup.

All-Time: 23-17-1-9 overall (9-10-1-5 at home; 14-7-0-4 on the road)
2013: Tonight is the third and final meeting this season, and the second of two meetings at Madison Square Garden. The Rangers are 0-2-0 overall (0-1-0 at home; 0-1-0 on the road), following a 3-1 loss on Mar. 14 at MTS Centre. Each contest has been decided by two goals or less. Ryan Callahan leads the team with two goals in the series, while Anton Stralman leads all defensemen in scoring with two points (one goal, one assist). Henrik Lundqvist is 0-2-0 with a 3.05 GAA and .906 Sv%.
Last Season: New York was 4-0-0 overall (2-0-0 at home; 2-0-0 on the road). The Rangers out-scored the Jets, 12-3, including a 6-0 advantage in the third period. The Rangers’ power play was 5-20 (25.0%), while the penalty kill held the Jets scoreless in 12 shorthanded situations in the series. Ryan Callahan (three goals, two assists), Marian Gaborik (two goals, three assists) and Michael Del Zotto (one goal, four assists) tied for the series lead in scoring with five points apiece. Callahan’s three goals led all skaters, and Del Zotto tallied a series-leading, four assists. Henrik Lundqvist was 2-0-0 with a 1.00 GAA, .957 Sv% and one shutout, while Martin Biron was 2-0-0 with a 0.50 GAA, .980 Sv% and one shutout.
– The Rangers’ 2-1 victory on Oct. 24, 2011, was the team’s first win in Winnipeg since a 5-4 victory against the previous Winnipeg Jets franchise on Nov. 21, 1992
– New York is tied for 15th in the NHL with a 10-6-2 (22 pts) record at home; Winnipeg ranks seventh in the NHL with a 10-7-2 (22 pts) mark on the road
– The Rangers are 6-3-1 vs. the Southeast Division this season; the Jets are 6-4-1 vs. the Atlantic Division this season
– New York lists no former Jets on their roster
– Winnipeg lists two former Rangers on their roster: Nik Antropov (2008-09); Olli Jokinen (2009-10)

– Henrik Lundqvist — 23 GP, 9-7-6, 2.20 GAA, 2 SO
– Martin Biron — 20 GP, 8-11-0-0, 3.02 GAA, 4 SO
– Brad Richards — 52 GP, 18-38-56
– Marian Gaborik — 19 GP, 10-12-22
– Ryan Callahan — 19 GP, 9-5-14
– Michael Del Zotto — 11 GP, 2-8-10

– The Rangers’ power play is 11-60 (18.3%) in the last 22 games
– The Blueshirts have posted a record of 9-4-1 when not allowing a power play goal
Power Play: The Rangers did not tally a goal in one power play attempt (2:00) on Saturday at Montreal. New York ranks 25th overall (15-104, 14.4%) and 22nd at home (10-59, 17.0%). The Rangers are 3-9 (7:53) in five-on-three situations (last – 3/24 vs. WSH), and 1-1 (0:21) when four-on-three (last – 3/7 at NYI). Shorthanded goals allowed (4): 2/19 vs. MTL (Diaz, EN); 2/21 at OTT (Silfverberg); 3/3 vs. BUF (Gerbe); 3/21 vs. FLA (Kopecky, EN).
Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts surrendered one goal to the Canadiens in two power play attempts (2:49) on Saturday at Montreal. New York is tied for 20th overall (89-111, 80.2%) and ranks 15th at home (53-64, 82.8%). The Rangers are 6-6 (7:34) in three-on-five situations (last – 3/24 vs. WSH), and 4-4 (4:24) when three-on-four (last – 3/18 vs. CAR). Shorthanded goals for (3): 1/20 vs. PIT (Nash); 3/12 at BUF (Stepan); 3/19 at NJD (Del Zotto).
Four-on-Four: New York did not skate in a four-on-four situation on Saturday at Montreal, and are now minus-1 in 22 four-on-four situations (46:13) this season. Four-on-four goals for (1): 1/23 vs. BOS (Gaborik). Four-on-four goals allowed (2): 1/20 vs. PIT (Letang); 1/23 vs. BOS (Horton).

The Rangers have posted a record of 21-6-3 in their last 30 games against Southeast Division opponents, including a 6-3-1 mark against the Southeast Division this season. The Blueshirts have out-scored their Southeast Division opponents, 94-62, over the span.

The Blueshirts have registered a point in 85 consecutive games when leading after the second period, dating back to the 2009-10 season, posting a record of 79-0-6 over the span. The Rangers’ last regulation loss in a game when entering the third with the lead was Feb. 4, 2010 (6-5 loss vs. WSH). New York is 9-0-0 when leading after the second period this season.

Rick Nash and Brad Richards both reached significant career milestones in the Rangers’ 5-2 win on Tuesday at Philadelphia. Rick Nash notched two goals, including his 300th career NHL goal, and added an assist in the contest, while Brad Richards registered two points (one goal, one assist) to record his 800th career NHL point.

The Rangers rank third in the NHL in hits (1027) this season. Brian Boyle leads the Rangers and ranks seventh in the NHL with 119 hits, while Ryan Callahan ranks second on the team and is tied for ninth in the league with 115 hits.

Rangers’ Head Coach John Tortorella recorded his 400th NHL coaching victory with a 5-2 win on Tuesday at Philadelphia, becoming the 30th head coach in league history to reach the mark. He is now three wins shy of fourth place on the Rangers’ all-time coaching wins list, with 161 career wins as the Blueshirts’ head coach.

The Rangers rank among the Eastern Conference leaders in several statistical categories…
– 4th (5th in NHL) in GAA — 2.38
– T-4th (T-7th in NHL) in FO% — 51.4%
– 1st (1st in NHL) in Fewest PIM/G — 9.5
– 3rd (3rd in NHL) in Hits — 985
– 4th (7th in NHL) in BkS — 546
– T-2nd (T-5th in NHL) in OT wins — 2

– The Rangers did not surrender a power play opportunity against on Mar. 7 at Long Island, marking the first time the Blueshirts did not have a shorthanded situation in a game since Jan. 10, 2012, in a 2-1 shootout win vs. PHX. The last time the Rangers did not allow a power play attempt against the Islanders was Jan. 7, 1989, in a 5-1 win at Long Island.
– The Blueshirts have had 13 players make their regular season debut with the team this season
– New York has registered a point in 10 of 12 games when scoring the first goal this season (9-2-1), and are 7-13-2 when allowing the game’s first goal
– The Blueshirts have posted a 7-0-1 mark when leading after the first period, and are 9-0-0 when leading after the second period
– Henrik Lundqvist is one win shy of Ed Giacomin (267) for second on the Rangers’ all-time goalie wins list

– Henrik Lundqvist — has held opponents to three goals or fewer in each of his last 14 games (7-6-1, 1.98 GAA, .929 Sv%)
– Rick Nash — 21 points (10 goals, 11 assists) in his last 20 games
– Derek Stepan — has tallied a point in 11 of the last 16 games (seven goals, nine assists over the span)
– Michael Del Zotto — five points (one goal, four assists) in the last six games

– Ryan Callahan — 1 assist from 100th NHL career
– Steve Eminger — 3 points from 100th NHL career
– Carl Hagelin — 2 games from 100th NHL career
– Roman Hamrlik — 6 games from 1400th NHL career
– Henrik Lundqvist — 3 games from 500th NHL career
– Marc Staal — 3 points from 100th NHL career
– Derek Stepan — 2 games from 200th NHL career
– Anton Stralman — 1 game from 300th NHL career; 3 points from 100th NHL career

– Rick Nash — 300th career NHL goal (3/26 at PHI)
– Brad Richards — 800th career NHL point (3/26 at PHI)
– John Tortorella — 400th career NHL win (3/26 at PHI)
– Brian Boyle — 300th career NHL game (3/28 at OTT)

– Michael Sauer (concussion, 12/5/11) — 34
– Marc Staal (injured, 3/5) — 13
Total Man-Games Lost: 86

– Mar. 23 — Montreal claimed forward Jeff Halpern off waivers
– Mar. 24 — Assigned defenseman Stu Bickel to Connecticut (AHL)
– Mar. 28 — Agreed to terms with free agent forward Mats Zuccarello
– Mar. 29 — Agreed to terms with free agent defenseman Conor Allen
– Mar. 31 — Assigned forward Kris Newbury to Connecticut (AHL)

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  1. Watching the last three episodes of The Garden Transformed: Year Two. Disappointed that they include so many memories instead of actual construction like the shows about Year One.

  2. Carp, there’s two ways to look at this current team. 1) They don’t have the right mix of players to play the current system. 2) Torts’ system doesn’t work for the current mix of players. While both can be true, which do you think is the bigger part of it? System or the players? And can their be any adjustments, specifically to the offensive zone strategy that could help the skill players create more offense. A tweak that helps get players like Nash, Gabby, Richards, Stepan, Kreider, Zuccarello, Hagelin off the walls and out from behind the net.

  3. The glass is half full!! LGR! They started off on the right foot in Montreale, the goals will come if they keep playing that way.

  4. ZzZz NYR ZzZz©"Don't stepan the logo!!!"...says Greg L. on



    I gregareentee it folks!!!

    BIG GAME TODAY!!!! Yeah baby , im suppper pumped!! Don’t get down everyone ,well not everyone but for the ones who felt like Montreal was pushing bamboo up our fingernails …I know it was bad ….I say we pound these Thrashers into the ground and then have Penguins Back2back for supper after that!!! Im feeeling HUNGRY!!!!!

    Neil , our system is all about attack and team grit . We need a lift , we need addition not subtraction. We don’t need goon-boy Prust , Not injured Dubi and noway we need a up n down AA . We need Staal back !!! We need to score . The urgency is not lacking on the PP , it the skill level …we have to raise the bar .

  5. Im gonna be negative today..These lil rangers went to Canada. These lil Rangers have won none. And after tonight these lil rangers are gonna run wee wee wee wee all the way home

  6. A big win tonight would clear up a lot of cap space- on the ledge . I thought we at least showed some effort in Montreal, and I’m sure the captain knows the easiest way to take some pressure off coach is by digging down deep and coming up with a win LGR!!!!

  7. Stranger Nation on

    Henrik complained of massive head ache. After watching Sens and Habs games, we all can relate..

  8. ZzZz NYR ZzZz©"Don't stepan the logo!!!"...says Greg L. on

    VIA tsn Bob Mckenzie : Rangers Trade Gaborik to Detroit .

    ahhhh that was for ORR .

  9. AdamRotter Buzz: There Doesn’t Appear To Be Talk About Firing John Tortorella

    According to Larry Brook, in the NY Post, there has been no indication that ownership or Rangers upper management has “given the slightest thought” to making a change at head coach and firing John Tortorella.

    Brooks says that Tortorella has struggled to replicate how he was able to get the most out of his players last season because he didn’t have a training camp to instill that mindset.

    He also notes that because of what Avery said, it all but guarantees that Tortorella will stick around and he jokes that another comment by Avery could result in the Rangers giving Tortorella a contract extension.

    It is believed that next season is the final year of Tortorella’s three year contract.

  10. Matty"Monster Nash"Boy on

    All April fool’s stuff aside, given the last two shutouts, the upcoming home and home vs. the Syd-less, but loaded, Pens, and tonight…yes…tonight…is an Eric MUST WIN!! Joking aside, it is an ’emotional’ must win. We’ve got stuff to prove and tonight is when we need to do it.

    Really the teams below us, crapola as they and we are, are breathing down our backs. We emotionally need this one to prove we can win and that means at least 1 goal.


  11. iDoodie Machetto on

    Lundqvist’s health better not be the joke.

    They better score tonight. Forget winning, I’ve given up on that. Just not another consecutive shutout.

  12. Good morning, boneheads!

    Well, Avery gave them an emotional lift when he joined this team first time around. They made the playoffs. Let’s see if he can do it again, albeit indirectly this time. Even though I’m pretty sure that wasn’t his intentions. Bur if it works, thank you Sean!

  13. This is the kind of team the Rangers always have trouble with, big, tough, driving to the net by the forwards constantly pressuring our finesse D and obstructing the goalie’s view. Sens are another!

    Speed teams also give us much difficulty like Montreal and far more talented teams with well constructed rosters like the Pens, Bruins, Hawks, Kings etc.. also give us huge problems.

    We have a roster miming the Knicks with a few imported “stars” from other organizations, a few promising but as yet young vets who may or may not fill our voids and a superb goalie whose play last year created an impression that the organization was finally of the cusp of annual contention.

    The bubble has burst, reality sets in and as always we are merely average!

    With no first round draft pick.

    With the same front office headed by the now 23 year failure and staff. 13 at MSG!

    With cap restraints to get worse.

    With no discernible prospects ready at lower levels.

    With unproductive and seemingly failing aforementioned “stars”.

    Alas, we are indeed average now and historically!

  14. NHL network says that the Rangers problems are a lack of, “strength down the middle.” Definitely Praised Stepan for stepping up but talked about Boyle having a down year, Miller being a child and Richards being lost. As well as Newbury being sent down, Halpern Waived, etc.

  15. The fractured jaw has taken away an essential part of Crosby’s game. How can he whine and snivel to the refs with his jaw wired shut?

  16. Manny, not in the NHL but perhaps for some on this blog, Ill bet the mook patrol know who they are,eh?

  17. A player in Kazakhstan league died after a check in a playoff game. 32 years old. Died from a hit to the head.

    He actually left the ice under his own power. Drove home and then died from a stroke the next day.


  18. Also, NHL network guest, Ryan Kennedy of The Hockey News, is saying that the Rangers front office does not view missing the playoffs or going out in the first round as a failure. They are preparing for a deep, multi-year run and are very excited about the young D-Core.

    They see this year as a shortened season and thus a crap shoot and they want to see them handle a full season 82 Game season.

    Thus, Tort will not be fired. Sather will not be fired. The team is young and has promise. Grow, grow, grow.

  19. Manny. “Deep multi-year run?” Are they on glue??? How can going from first overall in the east and game 6 of the ECF to missing the playoffs be viewed as anything but a failure. I wish I was an employee of MSG, no accountability.

  20. First time Carp ever typed something i didnt like “or are mathematically eliminated”…oy vey

  21. makes sense because that is how I feel right now. I’m chalking up this season as a lockout shortened season that screwed everything up.

  22. Rob in Beantown on

    If we’re to believe Lundqvist is 100% fine and they never had any concern about him at all, it’s maddening that they played Biron over him. This is a playoff chase and all indications are it will come down to the wire– so what are they saving Lundqvist for? I know we get shelled in MTL but playing Biron is like signaling a loss is inevitable and they’re just playing it out. Where’s the urgency?

  23. Matty"Sather should have known better"Boy on

    Heard Pierre on NHL Radio. Despite the playoffs and trade deadling looming, of course, the number one story is the health of our darling, Cyndy. Supposedly the she-male did not have his jaw wired. It was NOT dislocated.

    I was thinking the same thing, as in, darn, he can still whine and complain. There were no concussion symptoms.

    He is out indefinitely.

  24. Matty"Sather should have known better"Boy on

    Pierre was asked about the Rangers and he said the most blaring problem is their weakness up the middle. Said with Richards sucking, Step has ‘stepped up’, but he is not a #1. And Boyler has been not so good, with JT a kid, still learning. The combo not so good.

    Pierre must only see a few of our games or he knows less than I thought he might. Is his real name Pete???

  25. I think that sentiment lets us fans in on a how the ownerships across the league view a lockout shortened season. It’s very different than a full season (As far as front office, ownership is concerned)

  26. Rob – For what it’s worth, I would never, ever, ever start Hank in Montreal at the Bell Centre. He’s been so historically bad there that I wouldn’t mess with his confidence.

  27. Again before you all jump off the ledge….

    LA Kings in 3rd seed on 4/1/2012 (and only 3rd seed because they led a week division). They were exactly 2 points ahead of 9th place and 3 ahead of 10th. And you all know what happened.

    Possibly an even better stat. With 14 games remaining (same as the Rangers) last season the Kings were in 11th place in the West.

    Seriously, look at the NYR schedule after the 2 Pittsburgh games and tell me seriously that you don’t think it’s possible to get hot and go on a run to close out the season. Yeah, we look pretty crappy now, but we’ve had a couple of hot streaks this season and you all know it’s about getting hot at the right time.

  28. it wouldn’t have matter if lundqvist played in montrreal, the rangers didn’t score a single goal.

  29. steven

    we cant score a goal right now and your talking about going on a run. lets start with a goal first then a win before we talk about a roll. this team is a del zaster right about now

  30. Rob in Beantown on

    tommyG I’m aware, but maybe if Hank is in net the Habs don’t score the first goal and then it’s a whole different game. Or not and maybe we still lose 3-0 or worse. But at least it would have signalled they’re trying everything to win and not writing off games with a month left.

  31. Morning all,


    Great to know that you have such a handle on the Rangers State of the Union.

    We can all breathe a little easier now that you’ve weighed in.

  32. Eric,

    At least we are not in 11th PLACE! People are acting like no team that has ever gone into a scoring slump has never won the cup. We have ONE thing a lot of teams going into the playoffs will have, a Vezina winning goalie. Look at who’s in the playoffs now and tell me which teams go into the playoffs where goaltending isn’t a question mark? In the EC only NJ and Montreal probably have goalies you can’t wonder about their goalies going into the post season. Even the two top seeds have goalies that can’t be considered locks based on past performance in the post season.

    So, if we can at least get a bit of scoring going…and with this talent I really think it’s a matter of time (as long at the coach realizes that he has to open up the reins somewhat). I think Staal is a key here. The offense worked a LOT better when the team had TWO d-men who could rush the puck up ice. The team is not going to generate offense off the boards like they did last year. They have to bring the puck in and set up. Essentially they are a power play team without a decent power play setup. Hopefully the talent will make it happen.

  33. Doodie Machetto on

    steve, I don’t know what you’re talking about. We have a huge question mark in goal. This has been the worst season of Lundqvist’s career, with only his rookie season being worse due to his post-Olympics swan-dive, which was attributed to migraines.

  34. How great would it be if we commence a winning streak after Avery’s comments? Would be beautiful.

  35. _People are acting like no team that has ever gone into a scoring slump has never won the cup_

    A scoring slump lasting 3 seasons.

  36. >>…home and home

    Will someone EVER explain to me why hockey people use that expression?

  37. Doodie,

    Worst in his career? Perhaps. But I don’t think so. I’d still trust him more than maybe 4 or 5 goalies in the league to make a run in the playoffs. Tell me which goalies you’d rather have day in and day out? He’s currently 6th in Save PCT (really a more telling stat than GAA) and look at who’s ahead of him and tell me which one of those guys you’d rather have than Hank. If he’s healthy, Hank is the LEAST of our worries.

  38. Doodie, Lundqvist has similar numbers to all the other years he has been here. Last year is the year that stands out. But dont let stats get in the way of your argument.

    2005-2006 Rangers 53 30 12 – 9 2 116 1,485 .922 2.24 3,112
    2005-2006 Sweden-Olympics 6 5 1 0 0 14 2.33 360
    2006-2007 Rangers 70 37 22 – 8 5 160 1,927 .917 2.34 4,109
    2007-2008 Rangers 72 37 24 – 10 10 160 1,823 .912 2.23 4,305
    2007-2008 Sweden-WC-A 5 0 14 157 2.97
    2008-2009 Rangers 70 38 25 – 7 3 168 2,007 .916 2.43 4,153
    2009-2010 Rangers 73 35 27 – 10 4 167 2,109 .921 2.38 4,204
    2009-2010 Sweden-Olympics 3 2 1 0 2 4 55 1.34 179
    2010-2011 Rangers 68 36 27 – 5 11 152 1,965 .923 2.28 4,007
    2011-2012 Rangers 62 39 18 – 5 8 123 1,753 .930 1.97 3,754
    2012-2013 Rangers 29 14 13 – 2 0 63 810 .922 2.19 1,723

  39. can’t win a game or go on a run if you can’t score goals and this team is the worse team in hockey scoring goals.

  40. Going to my first game in 2 years tonight. Prime rib or carnegie deli or that burger place Carp talked about?

  41. About Avery.

    You know I used to really like what he brought to a game, but when Torts took over, we all knew it wasn’t going to work. So of course he’s going to have sour grapes about Torts. Nobody should be surprised. I think Avery has just become a pompous jerk. If the guy played for the Devils or Flyers you’d all be hating him as much as Cooke or Carcillo or any other dirty player. There’s a reason why Avery has worn out his welcome with 3 different teams and NOBODY else wants to touch him.

    Yes, if this was last year’s team a player like Avery would be just what we needed. Better yet, a player like Prust. But the sooner that we all (and the coach especially) realizes that this team is more Detroit Red Wings than Boston Bruins and let the offense go (much like his old TB teams) the better off they will be come playoff time.

    While Dan Boyle probably isn’t the answer. Boyle from 5 years ago is exactly what they need. So what has to happen is that Staal needs to come back healthy and play like he was before he got hurt. MDZ has to continue his great play and the reins on McD has to be eased up so he can create too. And why not find a PP specialist somewhere? Can’t we hire Leetch as a coach for a few games? Bring in Marcel Dionne?

  42. Doodie Machetto on

    Lyova, I won’t let the stats get in the way of my argument because I’ve watched him play pretty much every single game of his career. Stats don’t mean carcillo compared to the eye test. He is not stealing any games for us this year. He used to do it 5-10 times every year before this.

    Oh, and while you’re looking at stats and comparing them to the rest of his career, why don’t you look at the big 0 in the shutouts column.

  43. And, Doodie, look at the goalies who have played a similar number of games to Hank. Theyre all either tied or behind him in GAA and Save %. Those that are ahead have played less games (7-10) than him and are considered backups on their team.

  44. Marian the Friendly Ghost on

    Man look at the Blue Jackets quietly going about their business and positioning themselves in a playoff spot in the big bad west

  45. “People are acting like no team that has ever gone into a scoring slump has never won the cup

    A scoring slump lasting 3 seasons.”

    Funny thing about last season. Do you realize that the Rangers were 11th in the NHL in scoring? So, really, the scoring slump was just in the playoffs. They did fine during the regular season. Now their PP pretty much has stunk since Torts has been there, and to me, that’s because he’s stubbornly refused to hire a PP specialist to teach.

    They were 16th in scoring the year before, so they were average, not terrible.

    This year? Terrible, despite supposedly ADDING scoring.

  46. Sioux-per-man on

    Morning Boys.

    Crazy how the Rangers go 3-6-1 the last ten games, and we still have the 8th spot!!!

    Hank is rested and ready to go. He has yet to put up a shutout, and tonight is going to be the first one.

    I don’t care HOW WE DO IT, just WIN!!! 14 games left, 28 points on the table, how many can the RANGERS get?

  47. Doodie,

    You sound like me when I try to defend Jeter’s defense and all the stats say otherwise. Yeah the eyes can tell you something. I looked at his game in Ottawa for example and he TRIED to steal that one. When your team isn’t scoring at ALL you can’t steal anything. As I said, our scoring was never THIS bad. It can’t ALL be on Hank. I do think earlier in the season he was fighting the puck a lot, but ironically, over the last 15 games, I think he’s been the old Hank.

    Shutouts are an overrated stat anyway, meaningless actually unless you win 1-0.

  48. “I don’t care HOW WE DO IT, just WIN!!! 14 games left, 28 points on the table, how many can the RANGERS get?”

    All we need is one more than the teams behind us. Not one of those teams are world beaters and I don’t see any of them capable of making a huge run. So lets just right this ship, get healthy and let the team create. It might be better we go into the playoffs as the underdog anyway. I have always felt we play better under Torts with our backs against the wall.

  49. Wouldn’t disagree that Lundqvist has been a notch below last season at least, but it is funny (as a general NHL-speak phenomenon) how a team could go from generally winning games 3-2 to losing them 2-1 and the goalie is always diagnosed as not “stealing games”.

  50. Yes because clearly shutouts define you as a goalie and are not a telling sign of your team as a whole. And they have absolutely nothing to do with your defense. Nothing to do with Girardi and McDonagh especially having worse years, Staal being out, and having MDZ, Stralman, Eminger, and Hamrlik as the guys defending Hank’s shutouts.

    Who cares about shutouts? Point is that his numbers have been very consistent in his career and this year is no different. If you like shutouts you can root for Braden Holtby.

  51. henrik has been good this year. suprised no shutouts for the 4th best d in hockey.

    of course the rangers are awful at center, are they giving us expert analysis we do not already know??? boyle and richards have been horrible obviously. halpern sucked, it is stepan a 23 year old and not much else…..

    the cindies are great in the middle btw…

  52. _Stats don’t mean carcillo compared to the eye test._

    This is a joke, no?

    _They were 16th in scoring the year before, so they were average, not terrible._

    Do not just look at their overall rank. Look at their goals scored/game. They were at 2.73 two years ago – when they were 16th in the league. They were 2.71 last year – when they ranked 11th in the league. That is not good. This year happens to be much worse – which I would consider an anomaly.

  53. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    I have a dream, that one day, the Rangers will finish in 8th place, and the Pens in first. I have a dream, that Sidney and Paul Martin will still be out in the first round. I have a dream, that Malkin will re-injure something, and Iginla, Neal, and Letang will have a 3 way collision the last game of the season.

    I have a dream that the Ranger knock off the Pens in the first round.

    Is this the right holiday?

  54. Pekka Riene leads the NHL in SO with 5. His save PCT isn’t close to Hank’s nor is is GAA. What that tells me is he’s probably had some really great games and a bunch of stinkers too.

    Next two guys in shutouts, Holtby and Smith. Both have GAA in the 2.70, 2.80 range and save PCT the .910 range. Again, inconsistency in net. Not something you want going into the playoffs.

  55. Lundqvist is the least of the rangers problem and my eye tells me this team is anemic when it comes to scoring goals. The last I check you need to score goals to win hockey games.

  56. No debating the numbers are worse than last years. So is the team. Numbers are still top of the league for starting goalies meaning he’s still, as always has been, in the running for Vezina. Not going to win it, but in the running.

  57. Doodie Machetto on

    Lyova, Lundqvist had no problem getting shutouts when his defense was Malik and Rozsival playing 20 minutes a night. Sometimes he used to just go beast and be impossible to score on. He hasn’t done that this year.

    LW, as far as losing games 2-1 as opposed to winning 3-2, we haven’t exactly lost that many 2-1 games this year either. Of the 15 games Lundqvist has lost this year, only 5 were games in which Lundqvist gave up 2 or less goals, with 2 of those being shootout losses, aka ties.

    So of the 13 regulation losses, only 3 of those did he give up 2 or less goals. He’s not stealing games for us, period.

  58. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    Hank is the problem. If he was allowing -1 goals per game, they would be winning.

  59. Thom, all that tells you is that compared to the rest of the league, they weren’t that bad. if 2.71 is 11th in the league, that just tells you that there were teams a whole lot worse. This isn’t the 1980s when Vezina Trophy winners were giving up 3+ goals a game. It’s a different era. Relative to the rest of the league, they were above average. Now, in the playoffs, that was a complete meltdown scoring wise. They supposedly addressed it and it didn’t work out. And yet, it’s not Nash’s fault really. Although, he’s been pretty horrible lately too. Richards, Boyle, whoever, are terrible centers this year. I knew Richards was going to be a horrible signing. My rule is never sign a guy off a career year unless he’s done it 2-3 years in a row.

  60. Doodie Machetto on

    I’m not saying Lundqvist is the problem with this team, just that he isn’t as great as everyone thinks he has been. He hasn’t been. He’s been a very good goaltender. But he won’t be on anyone’s Vezina ballot this year.

    And steve, using Rinne as an example just further shows why stats are BS. Rinne has been nothing short of phenomenal this season, and is basiclaly the only reason his team has won double digit games this year.

  61. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    Have the Rangers played the NHL Hockey Jets 15 times this year, or does it just seem that way because they keep losing to them?

  62. Rob in Beantown on

    Are you considering empty net goals too? There have been a handful of those I can recall

  63. _Hank is the problem. If he was allowing -1 goals per game, they would be winning._

    I know you’re being sarcastic, but if Brodeur can score and he’s old and fat, why can’t Hank? If he could have just scored twice in the last two games without giving up any goals, we’d have 4 more points. Get it done, pretty boy!

  64. There’s been an empty net goal in 8 of 16 games where it was possible for us to allow an empty goal. THAT is a problem. Not how many shutouts Henrik does or does not have.

  65. Doodie,

    of those 13 regulation losses, are you taking into account empty netters. That’s another pet peeve I have with this team. When the goalie is pulled, they almost ALWAYS give up an EN goal, and usually fairly quickly too, so they don’t even have a chance to score the tying goal. The Rangers have given up 5 EN goals, with only 2 teams worse. I can’t find the stat, but I wonder how many times they’ve pulled the goalie and then gave up an EN goal?

  66. Ryan clowe looks like headed to flyers and wouldn’t be a rental according to Phil daily news.

  67. _Rob, I subtracted the EN goals._

    Where on the internet do you find that statistic. Thank you in advance.

  68. See now as opposed to the Rangers who actually have a good team on paper but are all just playing terribly, ZPhilly needs an overhaul. unfortunately it is on D and in nets (unfortunately for them).

  69. With the Bryzgalov of this year in goal they may not necessarily need a change in nets. Dont think he can keep this up and will still be bought out but he hasnt been a problem. Or at least nowhere near as much as last year. They have 0 defense and have had Hartnell and Simmonds restricted due to injuries and Couturier is in a major slump. Voracek and Giroux (who has been Gaborik like for good stretches this year) have been their catalysts this year.

  70. Lyrova.

    That’s just it, Rinne might look like a world beater one game and then stinks the next.

    if anyone thinks that Hank is a huge problem, then you really aren’t watching. Has he been as amazing as last year? No. Has he been the reason this team is struggling? No way.

  71. Doodie Machetto on

    Lyova, Bryz is another example of stats being different than the eye test. Bryz definitely has had a few clunkers, but overall he’s been really good this year, but his stats are absolutely terrible. In fact, for the first 20 games, I’d say he was hands down the Flyers’ best player.

    Thom, unfortunately, I just went through each loss of 3 goals or less 1 at a time.

  72. Doodie Machetto on

    steve, that’s a total listing. I think he was interested in a per game basis.

  73. _Thom, unfortunately, I just went through each loss of 3 goals or less 1 at a time._

    You are committed.

    Thank you to all for the assistance.

  74. Philadelphia friend hearing Couterier’s name involved and is dying. As much as we don’t like Sather, you know, he’s not doing this.

  75. Carp all due respect but THIS would have been the year to burn everyone w an April fools day post. Off the top of my head

    1- Torts fired replaced by Chico Resch
    2- Rangers decide to sign Arnott despite failing physical and he’s currently 270lbs
    3- Sean Avery signed to a one way deal!

  76. I’ll have to trust you on the eye test with Rinne, Doodie, as I’ve watched something (just) below 100% of his games, but only 6 of his 16 losses came when he conceded two or fewer and he’s been pulled three times in the last month.

    Not disparaging Rinne at all and I’m not really making a direct comparison between the two, just making the point about how much perception goes into the “stealing games” concept.

  77. Doodie Machetto on

    Carp, have to admit, you really could have crushed us with an April’s Fools joke this year. Our psyches are so vulnerable right now.

  78. There is no way Couturier is involved in a deal for Clowe. Only if the deal is much more complicated.

  79. Doodie Machetto on

    LW, he’s had some clunkers in the past few, I’ll admit that. Before that he was lights out.

  80. _There is no way Couturier is involved in a deal for Clowe. Only if the deal is much more complicated._

    Logically, I agree. But it says something about their front office when they fear it rather than dismiss it.

  81. Wasnt there a game recently where Nashville gave up like 7 goals in the first 25-30 minutes of the game AT HOME.

  82. Yea Carp have to say I was a bit disappointed with no April Fools joke. Last year’s about starting playoffs on the road due to scheduling issues with Knicks was pretty good.

  83. You underestimate Carp. More than half the day is in play for foolage. Don’t be fooled by his lack of fooling us, you fools.

  84. Doodie Machetto on

    It would be epic if Carp tweeted an April Fools thing that Dreger or someone else like him picked up. EPIC.

  85. If there was one player you think the Rangers COULD get, without breaking the bank (meaning trading best prospects or young core) that could help the team who would you get? So in other words, the best players in the league aren’t getting traded and the next tier would cost us the future. So who do you get?

    And with that, is there any of the FUTURE you’d give up to take a run at the cup this year?

  86. Dreger just used the term “in-house rental” to describe a player not being traded. Think he almost stole that from someone on here.

  87. Stranger Nation on

    We can harp on all the replacement parts not doing their job, but name the players from last season performing at a higher level this year and the list is very short…

    Step (after first 5 games or so)
    Stralman (in first 20 games, not as much recently)

    thats all I came up with…

  88. I was trying to craft an Avery tweet directed at Callahan, but I couldn’t make it sound stupid and vitriolic at the same time.

  89. Paul Holmgren must be the only person who looks at the Flyers’ roster and thinks “Yeah, we need more forwards”.

  90. According to McKenzie, we are in the mix for Clowe. Explain to me why we would want to give up something for him? The man has classic Power Forward on the downside written all over him. The shelf life on guys like that is about 5 years before they lose their effectiveness. He’s about there now and his season is showing that.

  91. Marian the Friendly Ghost on

    Weird and sad how this teams identity has become “the team that doesn’t score”

  92. Where were Avery and his tweets last season when the Rangers were one of the best teams in the league? Looking at how he couldn’t even make it in Hartford, he’s not one to point out anyone else’s struggles.

  93. thanks guys. The one with the Islanders forfeiting points back to the Rangers because of an illegal player actually did get picked up in some places. The one about the Rangers finding the guy in the Czech Republic or Russia — I forget which — really fooled a bunch of people here.

    And I understand that most of you guys are still funny as carcillo, you really are, and you have me in tears a lot of the time. But the place lately tends to get dominated by a few who haven’t smiled since 1994. or ever.

  94. One thing we don’t talk about enough here, is, using the term that Doodie uses, that my eyes can see, despite us being 4th in the league, that our defense has regressed. I’ve seen too many times where teams have been able to get wide open shots because we’re out of position. We keep falling behind because of this. Either forwards are not getting back, or the defense doesn’t take the man (this happens WAY too often….us blocking so many shots last year masked the fact that our D is way too often afraid to take out the man and waves the stick at the puck way too often.). Wonder why we get into very few scrums? That’s one reason why. There’s just no toughness from our D. And it’s no wonder. We don’t have a big defenseman like that. And before you say Bickel, he’s probably the most out of position defenseman we had and he had to go.

  95. The Rangers can’t score and they are too easy to play against…you can’t be both of those things in the NHL. Plus, the specialty teams are not good. So while Hank isn’t stealing games like last year (even a few would have us in 6th/7th place), he is still a top goalie and the least of our problems. In short, they have skill, but no grit..which is easier to add than skill. Yet Asham gets scratched, Newbury goes down, and Pyatt stays in the lineup.

  96. Thanks to some awesome Boneheads and their dedication to txting and spreading the word, I am hearing Clowe to Philly. Is that really true? Dont’ they need a, um, what’s that position where the guy stands in front of the net and blocks shot? Not Dan Girardi…um…GOALIE! That’s it.

  97. Also, last time I checked the Phlyers had $0 of cap space. Don’t they want Jay Bowmeester on their squad? His hit is like…$6.6M.

  98. you could argue all day long about hank on here. i completely agree with doodie forget what the stats say. the EYE TEST shows this year he isnt stealing games like over the past few years. but dont take it as i am knocking him because I am not. he is the least of our problems.

    besides step down the middle we have zero depth in the middle when richy is the player he has been.

    prepare yourselves as staal wont be back.

  99. Doodie Machetto on

    Carp, I only smile at the misery of others. Lately, I’ve been smiling a lot.

  100. I’ve seen two things out of our last two games – Awful results and strengthening effort.

    That leads me to believe that while Torts hasn’t lost the locker-room as some insist, either we break out tonight (no more time to wait) or we audible on the plan. This deep and with our shot count rising I think we’re married to the plan at this point with standard “coaching” needed. Remember, we still have a playoff spot despite playing near the floor of our potential.

    I’d like to see Newbury back, I’d like to see a “coast to bench = sit the next one” rule, I’d like to see Pyatt take the rest of the season off, I want Powe back and the boys need to remember they owe their sweaters more than they’ve been giving. Everyone needs to fake it till they make it with regard to moxy and swagger. Remember the old torts that wouldnt allow anyone to walk through the middle of the locker room? Yea, we need THAT back. Oh, and more than ready to welcome M. Staal back as well.

    Think this game carries a lot of weight — tough to expect a victory against the best team in hockey (right now) if we’re riding a three game losing streak. The change starts tonight or I fear, might not start at all…

    Goals from Hags, Nash, McD, and …. Cally. I’d love to see Hank steal a shutout but … think he steals a victory behind three-four goals instead.

  101. I’m sure this has been said but I’ll say it anyway. The fact that the Rangers can’t score is well known. But I think it’s somewhat obvious as to WHY they can’t score. I was watching Pittsburgh the other night. One of the Pitt players got the puck below the goal line in the offensive zone. What was his first instinct? Was it to throw it along the boards to another teammate? No. His first instinct was to throw it to the side of the net, towards the hash marks. He was looking for a teammate heading to the net.

    Heading to the net? What’s that?

    The Rangers spend ALL of their time in the corners. Their shots, if they get any, are all low percentage shots. You can’t even say that they’re “kept to the outside” because they keep themselves to the outside. They cycle, cycle, cycle the puck. And so what if they keep possession? They end up tired and dragging their butts back on defense when they finally do lose the puck.

    Having said all that, I think at this point you have to blame the coaching staff. This is not last year’s team. They don’t have the same grit to win battles in the corners AND get to the front of the net for rebounds. This team is too soft for that. So then what?

    So then they need to play a North–> South game which streaks down the wings and sets people up for shots in higher percentage areas. I know it’s easier said than done but to keep doing what they’re doing and saying things like “We need to stay positive” is moronic. Realize the team that you have in front of you. Realize that the Gaboriks, Nash’s, and Richards’ of this world are never going to play like Brandon Prust. Work with what you have and put these players in positions to be successful. The system should never come before the team. It may be too late to introduce a totally new system to the team but making some minor changes might produce major results. Plus… it certainly couldn’t hurt. This cycling nonsense is killing the team’s offensive production.

  102. Skill = #s 61, 21, 24, 10, 19, (up and coming 47, 20, 62). Those guys should be able to score a fricking goal or 2 per game. Hank should be Hank, and the rest of the team should be able to contribute SOMETHING (toughness, PK, PP, blocked shots, the odd goal…maybe stand in front of the opposing goaltender once or twice, Cally excluded) or at least add ANYTHING. Pretty much what Brandon Prust did all by himself. I didn’t think he was worth 2.5/per at the time either, but how much are they paying Pyatt, Powe, and were they paying Rupp and Halpern? And the D needs a bruiser more than a PP QB if you ask me.

  103. Thanks, ilb.

    The eye test on Hank allows us to see whether those saves are timely or not.

  104. So the Phlyers will have $4,169,879 plus the LTIR for Pronger at $5M. So they have almost $10M. That’s enough for Bowmeester and Clowe provided they move the right assets.

    Maybe we can get the Phlyers to sell us Wayne Simmonds?

  105. Stranger Nation on

    Carp April 1st, 2013 at 12:16 pm
    Staal could be back for the finals, eric (s).
    Conference or Stanley Cup Finals?

  106. that’s pretty accurate, Tony, but every team cycles, and when you are cycling with the Rangers’ bottom six, this is what you get; then when you cycle with the top six, and two of those are Richards and Gaborik in their current state, this is also what you get.

    as far as dumping pucks in, I sure saw Boston and Buffalo do it every single time there was nothing there on the rush Sunday night, and I saw Pitt do it too (on the occasion when there was nothing there on the rush) on Saturday. When players talk about getting pucks deep, they mean instead of turning it over at the blue line. You lose that battle to try to win another one 60 feet deeper. Even the best teams do it.

  107. _So the Phlyers will have $4,169,879 plus the LTIR for Pronger at $5M._

    A bit different from the $0 you proclaimed earlier, no?

  108. TonyF, well said. I was talking to my BIL who’s a big Rangers fan and we both came to the same conclusion as you. That this team is trying to be last year’s team with a completely different talent pool. Last year’s team HAD to play that way because they really only had one big offensive star and the rest of the team were mid level offensive players, so they had to work. This team has a lot more speed, and a lot more offensive POTENTIAL. But it’s being stymied by playing last year’s style. Winning 4-3 is the same as winning 2-1 or worse, losing 2-1. The team is so busy mucking on the corners that by the time they might get a clear shot, they are dead tired, and the puck goes the other way. This is no longer the Boston Bruins, but more the Detroit Red Wings. Fast up the ice with the puck, find the trailers who are going to the net and score. Not dump in to the corner and move the puck around a few times until one of the guys can get open. That’s not who they are anymore. Someone should show them videos of Datsyuk, and Linstrom and Moose and let them see how they play. Watch how they bring the puck up and drive to the net instead of the corners. Guys like Kreider and Haglin are so stymied because they are SO worried about making a mistake that they don’t create. You have a world class goalie. Let him make some plays to cover up and play offense.

  109. Stranger Nation on

    If a forward stands in front of goal, one of the D will need to stay with him or the center depending on the puck flow. The inability to move into open space is probably the biggest challenge we have, very much a North-South, keep it wide team and not much East-West side-to side.

    Watching Boston-Buffalo last night looked eerily familiar with both teams having trouble generating offense all game. Loose-cheeks seems a step slow as well.

  110. They are already partially using his LTIR, Manny. $4,169M is what they have left to use.

  111. Tony & Carp – definitely. The thing is, the Rangers tend to end up with an overload on the strong side. But then, the guy behind the net throws the puck weak side. So you have NO ONE there and NO ONE in a position to take a shot. Because we have two guys on top of each other on one side of the crease and no one one the other side.

  112. Fat Guy BACK from Cali on

    They may not be mathematically eliminated, but many of us have already been emotionally elimnated

  113. Carp

    There’s a difference in dumping the puck when there’s nothing on the rush or dumping the puck because that’s always your first instinct. And that’s the Rangers. Their first instinct is to dump the puck rather than try and create offense. And, also, when they ARE on the rush, rather than go forward with the puck, they go back. Not a good idea on the MSG ice where the puck jumps and bounces like a street hockey game.

    I know the shots have been coming, and that’s a good sign. In fact, I’d fine every player who passes up an even semi-open shot to try and make the perfect pass.

    That said, I’m circling Wednesday’s game as the key game of the season. THAT is going to be the team’s turnaround game. You watch. I think you’re going to see a big comeback win….followed by a close loss in Pittsburgh then they go on a run :)

  114. People seem to forget that Prust isn’t just 2.5M this year but also for the next 3. He has already missed time with a concussion and separated shoulder this year. A couple more years like that and he won’t be able to do much more than collect his 2.5, and you can’t bury the money anymore. Guys that play like him and get hurt like him have a short shelf life. They definitely could have used him this year but I wouldn’t want any part of that contract in years 3 and 4.

  115. steve, I don’t believe that was their first instinct in either of the last two games, or the Philly game, but I’m not going to start up that discussion again.

    and while I don’t disagree that Wednesday could be a rise-or-fall day on the calendar, tonight’s game is probably more crucial. Get two tonight against a really struggling team, then even if you only get one point out of four against Pitt, the Rangers are still probably in eighth with the soft part of the schedule remaining.

  116. Clowe is not going to worth the asking price as rental and I wouldn’t want to give him an extension.

  117. also … and I’ll end it here from my end … all the cycling wouldn’t look so bad if they’d win a board battle now and then.

  118. agree, Rexx, on the Prust contract. He gets hurt every game. Imagine what he’ll be like in the next three 82-game seasons. But they miss what he brought, no doubt.

  119. Rexx, that’s very true. Unfortunately, they are also VERY hard to find. At least good ones. But it’s not just Prust, but it’s three of four grit guys they lost to bring in Nash. But of course, who could have forseen that Richards would get old and slow so quickly, and the Boyle would never be the same after getting hurt during the playoffs last year? That’s your #1 and #3 center. The thing is, I still like the young core of this team. It’s a short season and it’s tough to teach during a short season. I imagine, if this was a full season, this would be a team with potential for a great second half. Hopefully that comes to fruition during the playoffs.

  120. I hope they win on Wed. Steve. But I don’t expect it. What I do expect is to play a VERY crucial game tonight and hopefully compete and then to lose on Wed. to the best team in the east even without the best player in the world.

    Re: Dump/Chase – I don’t think it’s their desire. I think the Rangers have some serious problem with their free flowing breakout styles, especially on the PP, and that results in issues gaining the zone. Sometimes their best bet is to dump the puck and get it in deep and try to win a puck battle along the board or intercept the opposing teams breakout pass. That’s because they can’t gain the zone in any sort of “attack” formation because they have no competent centers.

  121. So if Staal weren’t hurt, how fast would the rumors come about Staal for McBain +?

  122. Carp I agree. They have been shooting more, they are just in one of those “every shot is right at the goalie’s pads” modes. Maybe Torts is loosening it up a bit. I also agree that they need to win tonight, but that’s not enough. They need a BIG win against one of the better teams to give them confidence. I think a big game at home against the Pens (especially with Cindy out) could be that stepping stone. Then a decent game in Pittsburgh, even if they lose) and then from there, it’s a stretch of beatable teams. As I said, LA was in 11th place last year with 14 to go. I’m sure a lot of people in LA had written them off (if they even cared enough…maybe Mathew Perry wrote them off blogging to himself :) )

  123. _It’s been a while since Sather acquired a goon, it is almost time right?_

    John Scott

  124. Horton is one concussion away from sitting in a dark room with Marc Savard waiting for the room to stop spinning.

  125. _Rangers miss what a lot of players brought some of whom are still on the roster_


  126. Shooting at the goalie’s pads isn’t necessarily a bad thing if someone is in front of the net to deflect it, or get a rebound.

  127. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    _Their first instinct is to dump the puck rather than try and create offense_

    I disagree. Nash always tries to carry, and Richards and Gaborik should be dumping more until they stop giving the puck away at the blue line.

  128. All good comments on the cycling / dumping. I will add this…

    Obviously a team has to play situational hockey. If there isn’t anything available, you get the puck deep, let your teammates get into the zone, and you fight for possession. You create something. Or at the very least you try to get the puck to the net with hopes of a lucky bounce, rebound, etc.

    But the team concept, aside from those situations, IS to cycle the puck. You can tell. They don’t look towards the middle. No one is ever there. You literally have three forwards on the boards, 2 generally behind the goal line and one further up by the hash marks. Unless you are a Hagelin who can break away from a defender and perhaps make a move, you’re just playing hot potato behind the net. And that’s just what they do. I don’t know if they’re not strong enough, not quick enough, etc. They do nothing with the puck. Even when they do get it to the d-man, the Rangers don’t have anyone with a hard enough shot to scare any goaltender in this league. Not to mention, there’s never any traffic in front to screen the goalie from seeing the shot. AND… they miss the net a ton, lol.

    I just think the strategy needs to change. CRASH the net. Or at least softly glide towards it. Something. Anything. Make it difficult for the goalie. Right now they’re making any average goalie look like an all-star. They really are. This will not do. If they net was in the corner they’d be #1 in goals scored.

  129. Manny, yeah they need the win tonight, but I think a win against an elite team will give them a lot of confidence, especially if coupled with a win tonight, that they can start a run. Beating LoserPeg is one thing, beating the Pens in front of the home crowd is another.

    The problem with dump/chase is exactly what Carp said, they can’t win the battles along the boards with these guys, so they can’t win that style. They don’t have that type of team any more. Problem is, their coach still thinks they do. So they don’t seem to have any kind of break out plays (or if they do, they aren’t working) and they can’t play the style that the team should. Rush the puck and drive to the net.

    Maybe it’s me, but, as bad as the scores look, honestly, I didn’t think they were TOTALLY horrible 5 on 5 the last 2 games. Actually I thought they looked pretty good, but either had poor shot selection or bad luck or both.

  130. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    _who ends up further under .500? Rangers or Yankees?_

    I don’t think teams can finish under .500 in the NHL.

  131. Agree, Tony. But I think it’s bigger than just crashing the net. They need to stop sending three men behind the goal. Because then your only course of action is a pass up the boards. They need to keep one forward in the slot who breaks toward the net as soon as the forward behind the net wins the battle. Instead, we get two forwards fighting for a puck with the third forward about 2 feet away waiting for the puck battle to be won. Which, if it is, you now have three players creating a triangle about 3 feet apart. Not an effective offensive strategy.

    Get the puck to the net and bang away.

  132. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    _Did someone say a First Rounder and Dubi from Blue Jackets for Gabby????????_

    Do you really a $4.2M cap hit for 1 goal? And he’s hurt.

  133. Right, Steve and Co. This team does NOT win puck battles. Which is a pretty glaring issue when that’s the focal point of your offensive system.

  134. Shooting at the goalie’s pads isn’t necessarily a bad thing if the pads are being worn by somebody also wearing a Tampa Bay Lightning jersey.

  135. Don’t really want Dubi’s 4.2 mil but I really want the 1st rounder back. Also, Dubi is better than what he is today. Not 4.2 mil worth but the saving of 7.3 of Gabby will be better spent and Dubby fits Torts style. Then we will have gotten Nash for Arty and the Defense guy(forget his name).

  136. Stranger Nation on

    Gravy – yes some people do want the King of Knee Hockey back – 11 goals in his last 100 games – unflippinbelievable.

    At least we have the Mutts to root for…I mean, the Mess., I mean…

  137. Ronster- is it possible that Gaborik is better than he is today too?

    The only reason Sather would make this trade is if they operated on his upper body instead of lower.

  138. hopefully the rangers don’t make any trades and just ride out the season and see where the chips fall. Fix the problems in the off season. It’s stupid to trade Gaborik, why? because he is struggling and his inflated cap hit, the rangers will not get anything in value back that’s going to help the rangers now and in the future.

  139. _because he is struggling and his inflated cap hit, the rangers will not get anything in value back that’s going to help the rangers now and in the future._

    I don’t know this is true. Given the complete dearth of UFA talent, if you have a team that needs scoring and is well under the cap next year, it might be worthwhile to them.

  140. well, checked out flyer blog and all the posters on there don’t want clowe. I really hope Sather doesn’t do something stupid at the trade dead line. I really hope Holmgren does do something stupid.

  141. Marian the Friendly Ghost on

    PK Subban- 7 goals, 11 assists in the month of March. I don’t even want to look up how our Defensemen collectively compare

  142. Matty"Sather should have known better"Boy on

    Sather hasn’t made blockbuster trade deadline deals a pattern over the years. I guess he was fearful that during the season he might disrupt the team chemistry he had worked so hard to put together.

  143. Matty"Sather should have known better"Boy on

    Pittsburgh’s moves over the last week had me thinking about what our prior GM did in 1994, briniging in Matteau, Noonan, Anderson, MacT…….Larmer.

    Wow. Just wow.

  144. Right. I believe Turris was unsigned in Phoenix and they _had_ to move him. He was essentially free.

  145. Sioux-per-man on

    Manny he was a really good player in college for the Badgers. He turned pro at the end of the year after their season was over, played two full seasons for them. But held out i 2011 as a RFA, finally signed just to be traded.

    My thoughts, he wanted to be traded from the start. Miller could turn into the same type of center in a year or two.

  146. Sioux-per-man on

    3C – That would be like winning the lottery!!!

    But I like what Richards said a couple of games ago. He hasn’t been contributing like he should, and they are still in the playoffs. So he wants to give more and help the team. He isn’t a Drury already is he?

  147. _Remember that time Kyle Turris was waived and we didn’t claim him?_

    Remember that time you typed a rational thought? No, neither do I.

  148. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    _At least we have the Mutts to root for…I mean, the Mess., I mean_

    Hey, up 5-1 in the 4th. Game over, season over?

  149. They should just stay put…whatever happens this year happens…start making a better plan for next year

  150. I feel like the Rangers will scratch out a 3-2 (possibly shootout) victory tonight and get their clocks cleaned on Wednesday

  151. Doodie Machetto on

    Tony, your name reminds me of Rocky “I see three of him out there!” “Hit the one in the middle”

  152. Doodie Machetto on

    Lloyd, I’m going with clock cleaning X2.

    I’m going to the game tonight with Doodie Machetto Sr.. And if you guys think I am a jinx, you have no idea the powers Mr. Machetto Sr. possesses. Remember that run a few years ago of like 18 games with at least a point? Mr. Machetto Sr. bookended that run.

  153. czechthemout!!! on

    My over under on the amount of goals we score tonight is 0.

    I am taking the under!

  154. doodie:

    clock cleaning x2 as in losing the next two against Pittsburgh or getting a truly epic beatdown on Wednesday

  155. saying the Rangers score 3 goals tonight may well be more ludicrous than saying the Rangers will win the Stanley Cup

  156. Marian the Friendly Ghost on

    14 games to go. 28 points up for grabs. I’m setting the over/under at 16 points.

    I’m taking the under.

  157. Sioux-per-man on

    What happened to FAST?

    Did he practice with the Rangers yet?

    Or did they ship him off to the Whale?

  158. perhaps there was a fear Fast could cut into Brian Boyle’s immensely valuable ice time so naturally he had to be jettisoned

  159. have to love the Daily News

    you’ve got Pat Leonard with his “Rangers rally around Tortorella” lead line for a story that has statements from two players
    and then you’ve got their website having a photo of that poor kid from Louisville with his leg at a right angle in a sidebar of every page in their sports section so that you’re looking at that gruesome image whether you want to or not

  160. Sioux-per-man on

    Big Buff would be a perfect fit for the Rangers!

    I’m not sure there is a Rangers that can clear him from the crease. We shall see tonight!!!

    Have we beat the Jets this year?

  161. _perhaps there was a fear Fast could cut into Brian Boyle’s immensely valuable ice time so naturally he had to be jettisoned_

    Are you like this in real life too? Like do you wake up and say “I’m going to have chicken for dinner”, then say it 700 different ways until dinner, then after dinner keep talking about the chicken you had, then start the next day just harping on what you’ll have for dinner all over again?

  162. _sorry I dozed off somewhere in the middle of the first sentence_


  163. _Are you like this in real life too?_

    Sounds similar to the same couple of blokes that imbue Prust and Boyle with talent that neither possess.

    I would rather read the truths of Lloyd Braun.

  164. _you shook son?_

    Ha yes I am shook just like havoc said but havoc is the opposite of what Brian Boyle creates on the ice he only has one goal not exactly a prodigy is he?

  165. I can’t wait until Brian Boyle and Pyatt are off this team. I’m tired of hearing about them and watching them play hockey for the rangers.

  166. It really amazes me that Pyatt continues to play over Pow!. Pyatt is so one dimensional. Doesn’t kill penalties, no PP, no face offs. Rough.

    Mobb Deep?

  167. Rob in Beantown on

    Has there been a WBM for awhile?

    Unofficial WBM: (I would never presume to do an official one)

    0 Boyle
    1 Gaborik
    2 Richards
    3 Pyatt
    4 Lundqvist
    5 Hamrlik

  168. Taylor Pyatt is a like a big piece of machinery that needs oil in it’s gears…

  169. Coincidentally, NYR, wasn’t Boyle’s nickname, at one point in life, “Big Rig” ?

  170. Callahan’s response to the tweet was completely unnecessary. It just validates the importance of what that idiot said…he’s completely irrelevant at this point.

    This rallying around Tortorella thing is just a joke and one more fake motivator for an uninspired and listless group.

    Just play and go about your business.

  171. come to think of it so is Hanrlik, another anchor on a boat. To many anchors = a sinking ship.

  172. _It really amazes me that Pyatt continues to play over Pow!. Pyatt is so one dimensional. Doesn’t kill penalties, no PP, no face offs. Rough._

    _Taylor Pyatt is a like a big piece of machinery that needs oil in it’s gears_

    Apply to Boyle as well.

    Delusional Boyle lovers.

  173. Ah, yes! I believe it was. I almost forgot, Manny… I always liked to call him Flavah…

  174. TSN Breaking: Tortorella signs extension; holds press conference thanking Avery for his comments.

  175. _Callahan’s response to the tweet was completely unnecessary. It just validates the importance of what that idiot said…he’s completely irrelevant at this point._


    This is not what you want from a captain. A captain should not be paying attention to what some idiot bloke on twitter types. When asked by reporters, a simple No Comment would have been appropriate.

  176. Marian the Friendly Ghost on

    Torts should move The Roman Hammer up to the wing, open it up a bit. safe is death

  177. You know it’s a bad season when….

    …Rangers fans covet a player from out west with 0 goals at the trade deadline.

    …Sean Avery’s pedestrian analysis of the team is significant in the minds of fans.

    …Carp can’t even make an April fools day joke.

  178. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    _Has there been a WBM for awhile?_

    _Unofficial WBM: (I would never presume to do an official one)_

    _0 Boyle_
    _1 Gaborik_
    _2 Richards_
    _3 Pyatt_
    _4 Lundqvist_
    _5 Hamrlik_

    Wasn’t around during the Montreal game, so I have been a bit lax in my WBM (c) duties.

    Also, bloke is a funny word.

  179. Given a choice of one or the other, I’ll take a team that can create scoring off the forecheck and cycle as opposed to a team that relies on offense off the rush. Keep the pick down low, wear out the oppositions defense.

  180. This is the most boring trade deadline ever. Stupid Penguins making all those moves too early.

  181. TSNBobMcKenzie Hearing ANA sends Jay Rosehill back to PHI for Harry Z.

    off to MSG i go. Later heads.

  182. bull dog line on

    Papa Bear,
    this team is not built that way. last years team, yes, not this one. they lose most of the battles behind the net. why with possession of the puck would you throw it behind the net to grind when its less than 50- 50 they can retrieve it. attack the front of the net, not behind the net!

  183. _Sean Avery’s pedestrian analysis of the team is significant in the minds of fans._

    The analysis of myself, you, and everyone on here is insignificant. As a matter of fact, Avery was a part of the Rangers under Tortorella and teammates with a lot of the current Rangers, so he has more knowledge – by default – than any of us.

  184. Rob in Beantown on

    _The analysis of myself, you, and everyone on here is insignificant. As a matter of fact, Avery was a part of the Rangers under Tortorella and teammates with a lot of the current Rangers, so he has more knowledge – by default – than any of us._

    He was also kicked off said team by said coach, so he is by default more biased than any of us.

  185. He was also kicked out of hockey at one point by the NHL and then kicked off the Dallas Stars. And then 29 other teams refused to allow him into their locker room or minor league team. Then the CT Whale sent him home because he was bad for the youngsters.

  186. Stranger Nation on

    Pie-hat has been extremely ineffective over the last 20 or so games. Powe brings speed and some grit, Asham brings speed, grit and decent hands, Haley brings hustle and quick mitts.

    Torts should put Richards, Boyle and Pyatt all on the same line so they don’t mess up every one else!

  187. Stranger Nation on

    One glaring hole in Danny G’s game this season has been the lack of hitting. Seems a step or two slow all season and constantly in scramble mode when other team is behind net.

  188. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    I proposed a Richards-Boyle-Gaborik line a few games ago to combine all the struggling players. But, I also thought it had potential if they just played Boyle on LW and sent him to the net.

  189. Scratching Asham HAS to be injury related. Something to do with his back. The guy scored on of our only goals in the last 15 games or whatever it’s been, right?

  190. Agree BullDog. We are not suited for that type of game. But, if I had a choice……

    Really talented teams like Pittsburg can beat you both ways,, on the forecheck or off the rush……

    Kings won the Cup last year by forechecking and cycling teams to death. I would love to have a team that could play that style.

  191. I’m personally not taking much interest in the Trading Deadline.

    The Rangers have shown one consistent trait this entire truncated season – They CANNOT compete with the top teams in the Conference.

    No point in making panic moves, because only a ’91 Vintage Messier (with a side of ’94 Vintage Leetch) could have any hope of getting this team turned around.

    The best bet is to just wait til the off-season and make the hard decisions then. Unless, of course, they can shed some unwanted, unperforming dead weight (Boyle, for example.)

    Buying out Richard$ in the off-season is going to be key. I know Carp says there are no No. 1 centers out there to be had…but Richard$ is barely a No. 3 anymore. I don’t see him magically finding his game again (or his legs)

    All that being said, things could be worse.

    Yanks and Mets are gonna be battling for the “At least we’re better than THEM” award this season.

  192. Stranger said “Torts should put Richards, Boyle and Pyatt all on the same line so they don’t mess up every one else!”

    THAT is genius thinking! LOL!

  193. I hope fast skates faster than he travels …is he coming over on the SS Hammrlik???

  194. _Paul Holmgren must be the only person who looks at the Flyers’ roster and thinks “Yeah, we need more forwards”._

    Paul Holmgren must also be the only person who looks at the Flyers’ roster and thinks “Yeah, we need more minor league goons.”

  195. If we lose tonight, can we go ahead and forfeit the season and call up Mcllrath to get him some NHL experience?

  196. scratching Asham takes 1 of the big scorers on this team out of the lineup.

    boyle,gabby, and richards. nickname the loser line…

    have gabby, boyle, richards, and hamrlik on the ice at the same time and you are the mega overpaid loser lineup….

  197. CJP i agree. if the rangers think they are going to fix this with a clowe trade they are even dumber then I think.

    if they can trade some of the junk ie; boyle, gabby, etc go for it. no trading of good young players unless they can youth back….

  198. Marian the Friendly Ghost on

    Callahan should concentrate on not losing his stick every game instead of inane comments from a desperate has been

  199. April 1, 2013 — Exclusive to St. Louis Game Time

    by Rick Ackerman

    In an unprecedented move, the St. Louis Blues and New York Rangers will jointly announce today that they have agreed to trade their entire 23-man rosters with each other, with the exception of one player each. The NHL clubs will also exchange franchise names. Henceforth, they will be known as “New York’s Broadway Blues” and the St. Louis Rangers.

    The move, a first in NHL history, is said to stem from the fact that both teams are loaded with complacent players who need a change of scenery. In a joint statement, Doug Armstrong and Glen Sather, the General Managers of the Rangers and Broadway Blues respectively, said, “We are tired of having to move a player or two in order to shake up the team and motivate the players, which takes time and effort. It just makes sense to do it all in one fell swoop and get it over with.”

    Both NHL clubs reached the 109 point plateau last year, the Broadway Blues finishing first in the Eastern Conference and the Rangers finishing second in the West and were expected to challenge for the President’s Trophy this year as well as contend for the Stanley Cup. However, both clubs are under-performing as the Broadway Blues languish in eighth place and the Rangers in ninth place in their respective conferences, struggling to find consistency.

    “We had to do something to right the ship for our fans, whatever it takes”, said Armstrong. “We feel we have finally acquired the number one goaltender we have long searched for in Henrik Lundqvist (the new King of St. Louis) and we needed to shore up the left side of the defense with the additions of Marc Staal, Ryan McDonough and Dan Girardi. We also get that number one center in Brad Richards, something we have not had in St. Louis for a long time. Throw in hard-working players like Ryan Callahan and Derek Stepan and we feel we finally have a winner.”

    Sather was also thrilled with the influx of talent coming to his team. “We will match any offers to Alex Pietrangelo and Kevin Shattenkirk, who, with Barret Jackman and Roman Polak, give us tremendous depth on defense. And adding rookie sensation Vlad Tarasenko and Techno-Viking Patrik Berglund is a dream come true for New York hockey fans. Throw in hard-working David Backes and Alex Steen and we feel like we finally have a winner.”

    The “Exception Players”, to be announced before the trade deadline Wednesday, are rumored to be Rick Nash for the Broadway Blues and T.J. Oshie for the Rangers. Insiders note that Nash was such a steal from Columbus that Sather would not want to give him up and keep him around as a monument to his wisdom and skill as General Manager. And it is clear that the fan-base in St. Louis would be heart-broken and ready to abandon the team if a popular player like Oshie ever left in a trade.

    More to come…

  200. Happy (belated) Easter
    and Passover to all

    never made it online yesterday
    as i was fighting another (sinus pressure)
    while making relative visits.

    out of the fog today
    hope the Blueshirts are as well.
    here’s to……VICTORY!!
    (i hope)

  201. Carp whatever you do, DON’T talk any crap about Ukraine while you’re on the train. I’ve seen it get ugly.

  202. _He was also kicked off said team by said coach, so he is by default more biased than any of us._


  203. _He was also kicked out of hockey at one point by the NHL and then kicked off the Dallas Stars. And then 29 other teams refused to allow him into their locker room or minor league team. Then the CT Whale sent him home because he was bad for the youngsters._

    This makes no sense. I am not shocked.

    Rob in Beantown provided a valid counter argument.

  204. Don’t worry if you get to MSG late, Carp. The Rangers have shown that they really don’t like showing up to play at the drop of the puck anyway. :-)

    Over/under on how long it’ll take for the Rangers to allow the first goal tonight? Four minutes?

  205. I just googled Minka Kelly. WOW. Be safe.

    don’t worry no inappropriate googling occurred.

  206. it should be more like over/under 1, How many goals will the rangers score tonight?

  207. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    The only hole on this team seems to be between all the players legs where their testicles should be!!!!

  208. Rob in Beantown on

    Somebody earlier said the over-under on Rangers goals should be about 1.5. Sounds about right

  209. 4th line of Powe, Pyatt and Gaborik. The mind reels. Hope it works, I guess.

  210. ZzZz NYR ZzZz©"Don't stepan the logo!!!"...says Greg L. on


    Big win folks …..oh yeah ..lotsa fun tonight!!!!

  211. ZzZz NYR ZzZz©"Don't stepan the logo!!!"...says Greg L. on

    RANGERS time to ramp up to beat the seal clubbed Penguins next game. Sure sure we gots this game but its a wash…Ranger will win .

  212. This Jets team has been struggling lately, so this will probably be an easy win for the Rangers.

  213. Czechthemout!!! on

    So another 34 yearold goon cannot play more than a game or two every month because he is so beat up already. The moron GM continues to try and sign these clowns every year and wastes cap space oing it!

  214. Are there any other old beat-up goons he can acquire by Wednesday, or has he already gotten all of them?

  215. Rob in Beantown on

    Thats too bad since Asham is one of 4 people on the team capable of putting a shot on net

  216. The talking TV heads just about to a man are Convinced that the system of diving to the ice to make saves instead of letting the goaltender handle them, is a flawed system, and stifles the offense. Two schools of thought? Tortorella’s and just about everyone els’s? Who holds the high ground in this one?

  217. Asham had the temerity to score a goal. Confused the coaches, not part of the game plan.

  218. @KatieStrangESPN@ #NYR Rangers lines: Nash-Stepan-Callahan, Zuccarello-Richards-Gaborik, Hagelin-Boyle-Miller, Kreider-Powe-Pyatt

    Not much better. Hate Kreider on the 4th line. Would rather have Miller center Hagelin/Kreider with Boyle on the 4th.

  219. Czechthemout!!! on

    So Brian zero offense Boyle is on the third line at center. Big time solution to the problems on offense. Kreider on the fourth line despite playing a good game in Montreal. That right there is how you develop a talented kid into a no talent scrub! Good job!

  220. The lines are going to be all over the place tonight. Look for Zucc to get close to 20 mins again…

  221. agree, Boyle should be fourth line tonight, Kreider third line … Boyle could still come on for faceoffs, then get the eff off.

  222. Czechthemout!!! on

    Interesting stat.

    The Blackhawks are dead last in the league in hits and blocked shots. You know why?

    Because they always have the damn puck!!

  223. Not even Byle can stop Miller and Hags from popping in a goal tonight right?

    that fourth line probably won’t see too much ice time as currently constructed. Kreider better shoot it from the blue line.

  224. Rob in Beantown on

    I really liked the Nash-Stepan-Hagelin line. Not sure why Torts broke it up. Zucc on the line of death and Kreider on the 4th line is perplexing

  225. I am strangely sanguine regarding tonight’s game. Must stop hitting the bottle so early in the day…

  226. Just had the daily burger. Pretty good but i think prime rib is better. Should be for twice the cost.

  227. I thought ^wizard^ should have been playing with Gaby and Richie since opening day LAST season…

    ALAS, the time HAS come…

  228. Nash-Stepan-Hagelin stunk beyond stink the last two games, Rob.

    Norm, I believe that is the first time “sanguine” has been used here. Is that a type of pasta?

  229. They just it took it straight in the zone and went to the net. No useless cycling and board play. Use the skill available.

  230. Admiral Akbar on

    How about Leetch for head coach?? You guys think he’d be any good at coaching?

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