Rangers at Devils tonight


pre-game notes from the NYR:

Tuesday, Mar. 19, 7:00 p.m.
Prudential Center – Newark, NJ
Rangers: 14-12-2 (30 pts)
Devils: 13-10-6 (32 pts)

The Rangers will complete their back-to-back set when they face-off against the New Jersey Devils at Prudential Center (7:00 p.m. — TV: MSG Network; Radio: ESPN 98.7), in an Atlantic Division matchup. The Blueshirts currently rank third in the Atlantic Division standings, and rank ninth in the Eastern Conference, with a record of 14-12-2 (30 pts). The Rangers enter the contest having defeated the Carolina Hurricanes, 2-1, in the shootout last night at Madison Square Garden, to improve to 3-1-0 (2-0-0 at home) in the first game of back-to-back sets. The Blueshirts have posted a combined record of 3-4-0 in back-to-back games this season, including an 0-3-0 (0-1-0 on the road) record in the second game. The Devils enter the contest with a 13-10-6 (32 pts) record to rank eighth in the Eastern Conference, and have lost their last two games. Following tonight’s contest, the Rangers will return to action when they face-off against the Florida Panthers on Thursday, Mar. 21, at Madison Square Garden (7:00 p.m.), in the first of two consecutive games at MSG against Southeast Division opponents.
– All-Time: 101-85-27-6 overall (56-30-20-2 at home; 45-55-7-4 on the road)
– 2013: Tonight is the second of four meetings this season, and the second and final meeting at Prudential Center. The Rangers are 0-1-0 (0-0-0 at home; 0-1-0 on the road) following a 3-1 loss on Feb. 5 at Prudential Center.
– Last Season: New York was 3-2-1 overall (2-1-0 mark at home; 1-1-1 mark on the road). Four of their six meetings were decided by two goals or less. The Rangers’ penalty kill was 16-18 (88.9%) with one shorthanded goal in the season series. Carl Hagelin led allskaters with six assists, eight points and a plus-five rating in six games. Derek Stepan (two goals, four assists) and Marian Gaborik (two goals, three assists) tied Hagelin for the team-high with two goals apiece, while Dan Girardi led all series defensemen in scoring with three points (one goal, two assists). Henrik Lundqvist was 3-2-0 with a 1.41 GAA, .940 Sv% and one shutout, and Martin Biron was 0-0-1 with a 2.77 GAA and .897 Sv%.
– The Rangers and Devils have been separated by two goals or less in 14 of their last 18 meetings
– The Rangers have registered a point in 13 of their last 20 games against the Devils (11-7-2 over the span), dating back to a 3-0 win at Madison Square Garden on Mar. 30, 2009
– New York ranks 23rd in the NHL with a 4-7-1 (9 pts) record on the road; New Jersey ranks 13th in the NHL with a 9-4-2 (20 pts) mark at home
– The Rangers are 4-5-1 vs. the Atlantic Division this season; the Devils are 8-2-2 vs. the Atlantic Division this season
– New York lists one former Devil on their roster: Arron Asham (2007-08)
– New Jersey lists no former Rangers on their roster

– Henrik Lundqvist — 42 GP, 25-12-5, 1.82 GAA, 6 SO
– Martin Biron — 31 GP, 8-15-2-3, 3.14 GAA, 2 SO
– Brad Richards — 39 GP, 5-29-34
– Marian Gaborik — 25 GP, 8-12-20
– Ryan Callahan — 25 GP, 7-9-16
– Dan Girardi — 35 GP, 1-13-14

The Rangers’ power play is 9-45 (20.0%) in the last 16 games, while the Blueshirts’ penalty kill is 49-56 (87.5%) in the last 19 games. New York has posted a record of 9-4-1 when not allowing a power play goal.
Power Play: The Rangers did not tally a goal in three power play attempts (5:03) last night against Carolina. New York is tied for 24th overall (13-89, 14.6%) and ranks 27th on the road (4-35, 11.4%). The Rangers are 2-8 (7:46) in five-on-three situations (last – 3/3 vs. BUF), and 1-1 (0:21) when four-on-three (last – 3/7 at NYI). Shorthanded goals allowed (3): 2/19 vs. MTL (Diaz, EN); 2/21 at OTT (Silfverberg); 3/3 vs. BUF (Gerbe).
Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts held the Hurricanes scoreless in three power play attempts (3:08) last night at MSG. New York ranks eighth overall (81-97, 83.5%) and is tied for 14th on the road (31-38, 81.6%). The Rangers are 5-5 (5:52) in three-on-five situations (last – 3/10 at WSH), and 4-4 (4:24) when three-on-four (last – 3/18 vs. CAR). Shorthanded goals for (2): 1/20 vs. PIT (Nash); 3/12 at BUF (Stepan).
Four-on-Four: New York did not tally/yield a goal in two four-on-four situations (5:52) last night against Carolina, and are now minus-1 in 20 four-on-four situations (39:13) this season. Four-on-four goals for (1): 1/23 vs. BOS (Gaborik). Four-on-four goals allowed (2): 1/20 vs. PIT (Letang); 1/23 vs. BOS (Horton).

The Rangers will complete their fourth of six back-to-back sets this season tonight at New Jersey. New York has posted a combined record of 3-4-0 in back-to-back games, including a 3-1-0 (2-0-0 at home; 1-1-0 on the road) record in the first game and an 0-3-0 (0-2-0 at home; 0-1-0 on the road) mark in the second. Henrik Lundqvist has started on consecutive days 62 times in his career, posting a record of 38-17-7 with a 1.92 GAA, .932 Sv% and six shutouts in the second game.

SINCE 2007-08
The Rangers are 20-9-3 overall (11-4-1 at home; 9-5-2 on the road) against the Devils since 2007-08, dating back to a 2-0 win on Oct. 25, 2007. Henrik Lundqvist is 20-9-2 with a 2.00 GAA, .927 Sv% and six shutouts in 31 games over the span.

Henrik Lundqvist has faced-off against Martin Brodeur in 35 career regular season games, posting a record of 23-7-5 with a 1.77 GAA, .933 Sv% and five shutouts over the span.

Rick Nash is currently tied for the team lead with nine goals, having tallied his first eight goals of the season in the third period. Nash is the second player in NHL history whose first eight goals of a season were tallied in the third player, while fellow Ranger Arron Asham is the other to have accomplished the feat, in 2003-04, as a member of the New York Islanders.


Marian Gaborik has been among the league’s goal scoring leaders since joining the Rangers in 2009-10. Last season, Gaborik became the fifth player in Rangers history to record 100 goals in his first three seasons with the club, and became the third Ranger in franchise history to register multiple 40-goal seasons with the team. Entering this season, his 105 goals from 2009-10 to 2011-12 ranked seventh in the NHL, while his .48 goals per game average ranked third (behind Steven Stamkos and Alex Ovechkin) over that time period. Including games played this season, Gaborik currently ranks seventh in the league with 113 goals scored and is tied for third with .46 goals per game since the beginning of the 2009-10 season.

The Rangers rank fourth in the NHL in hits (851) this season. Rangers’ captain Ryan Callahan leads the team and is tied for eighth in the NHL with 95 hits, while Brian Boyle ranks second on the Rangers and is tied for 10th in the league with 94 hits.

The Rangers rank among the Eastern Conference leaders in several statistical categories…
– 3rd (T-4th in NHL) in GAA — 2.36
– 3rd (7th in NHL) in FO% — 51.6%
– 1st (2nd in NHL) in Fewest PIM/G — 10.5
– 3rd (4th in NHL) in Hits — 851
– 4th (7th in NHL) in Blocked Shots — 450
– T-2nd (T-5th in NHL) in OT wins — 2

– The Rangers did not surrender a power play opportunity against on Mar. 7 at Long Island, marking the first time the Blueshirts did not have a shorthanded situation in a game since Jan. 10, 2012, in a 2-1 shootout win vs. PHX. The last time the Rangers did not allow a power play attempt against the Islanders was Jan. 7, 1989, in a 5-1 win at Long Island.
– The Blueshirts have had 13 players make their regular season debut with the team this season
– The Rangers’ power play is 9-45 (20.0%) in the last 16 games
– The Blueshirts’ penalty kill is 49-56 (87.5%) in the last 19 games
– New York has registered a point in eight of 10 games when scoring the first goal this season (7-2-1), and are 7-10-1 when allowing the game’s first goal
– The Blueshirts have posted a 6-0-1 mark when leading after the first period, and are 7-0-0 when leading after the second period

– Henrik Lundqvist — has held opponents to three goals or fewer in each of his last nine games (5-4-0, 1.99 GAA, .931 Sv% over the span)
– Rick Nash — has tallied a point in 10 of his last 14 games (seven goals, nine assists over the span)
– Derek Stepan — has tallied a point in eight of the last 10 games (five goals, five assists over the span)
– Ryan Callahan — seven points (four goals, three assists) in the last eight contests
– Carl Hagelin — 14 points (six goals, eight assists) in the last 18 games, including five assists in the last seven contests
– Ryan McDonagh — 11 points (two goals, nine assists) in his last 18 games, including six assists in the last 10 contests

– Ryan Callahan — 2 assists from 100th NHL career
– Michael Del Zotto — 1 point from 100th NHL career
– Steve Eminger — 3 points from 100th NHL career
– Rick Nash — 2 goals from 300th NHL career; 2 games from 700th NHL career
– Brad Richards — 3 points from 800th NHL career
– Marc Staal — 3 points from 100th NHL career
– Anton Stralman — 3 points from 100th NHL career
– John Tortorella — 2 wins from 400th NHL career

– Michael Sauer (concussion, 12/5/11) — 28
– Arron Asham (injured, 2/19) — 13
– Marc Staal (injured, 3/5) — 7
Total Man-Games Lost: 71

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  1. should be a high scoring affair. i expect powe, halpern, and boyle to continue there offensive dominance…

    rangers will score at least 5, maybe 6 goals today. gabby will be all over the body, hitting anything that moves….

    richards will not get any lazy soft passes picked off in the neutral zone…none

  2. carp are my points innacurate? again give me a reason why halpern is in the lineup based on production not some innocuos b s….they have options…they need a chance..

    kreider cannot help this team now….ridiculous..

    they are suppose to put the best team on the ice period….

  3. Matty"MonsterNash"Boy on

    Let’s face facts. Our team had a good 2nd, 3rd, and OT. Not great. But good. The Derbils have not been all that amazing lately either. Plus, Fatso is on bench. I think we can build on the end of yesterday’s game and do some damage. Perhaps we can score a couple goals, too.

    Prust sayin’. Famous last words.

  4. Doodie Machetto on

    Matty, I disagree. I thought they had a dominant third and almost completely controlled the OT.

  5. _Ray Emery: career save percentage of .907, only .013 less than the best goaltender in the NHL, Lundqvist_

    Probably horribly facetious of me to offer the following incontrovertible non-opinion, but say your goalie starts 65 games in a full season, facing 25 shots a game. That’s 1625 shots in total. Saving 1.3% more shots is conceding 21 fewer goals.

    Difference between good and mediocre?

  6. Jlone2Bubblehead on

    stuart a

    ?Sometimes the prize is not worth the costs. The means by which we achieve victory are as important as the victory itself.?
    ? Brandon Sanderson, The Way of Kings

  7. Ilya Scora Goala and Clarkson both score tonight, as usual
    so right off the bat we know we’ll need at least 3 to win

  8. Halpern had one of the best passes of the night to Haley in front, forced Ellis’ best save. I’d like Kreider up as well, but he’s not a replacement for specialists Halpern or Powe.

  9. The OT period was simply Dominant. I still expected one of the 3 ‘Canes shots to go in. But I thought our 5 shots and way more opportunities was impressive.

    That’s where our skill shines. More open Ice = More Gaborik.

  10. stuart, I don’t know why i’m bothering with this, but Kreider was very obviously not ready for the NHL. you want to put him at fourth-line center instead of Halpern?

    Not saying Halpern’s any great shakes, because he isn’t. But that line’s main responsibility is to NOT give up goals.

  11. He’s really good when he has the space. Then you can really see how talented he is. So trade him? No thanks.

  12. My name is Dudley and I like Marian Gaborik. Hasn’t been his best work and not seeing he doesn’t need to earn back some of the lost love…. but I’m far from thinking he’s done.

  13. agree, Dudley. Plus it would be impossible to find a 40-goal type guy now. Best bet is he comes out of this and plays here the rest of his contract.

  14. Stranger Nation on

    Plain and simple Gabby needs a banger forward and a two way center to get him the puck with time and space.

  15. Given that Cally can win face offs (think he won 4 last night) and forechecks with the best of them…I’m wondering if he would be effective playing center ice….

  16. Afternoon, ‘heads!

    Nice to sit on the beach and read Carp’s review and all boneheaded posts. I liked the game. It smelled like the last 4 initially, but they were determined. Still not clicking as well as they should, but it’s getting there.
    Not going to discuss what’s been discussed already. Except someone proposed trading Richards. Even if there is another Howson in the league left, no way the Rangers will do it. Because of the Cap Advantage Recapture rule the Rangers may end up with huge cap hit even if he is retired. I still maintain they’ll buy him out after 2013-2014 season, especially since now it’s official and Perry isn’t becoming an UFA.

  17. ilb, sitting on a beach? I am really disliking you right now as I just finished shoveling the driveway.

    iNYR, I think Callahan could play center well … but that would take him away from the wall, and the Rangers don’t have another player even close to being as effective on the wall as Callahan. (not to mention they don’t have another single forward who can place a hard hit along the wall, other than the occasional Boyle hit).

  18. If I was coach — and thank God I’m not — I would have flipped Callahan and Gaborik when they played together. Callahan can be equally effective on either wall, might benefit from shooting on his forehand off the cycle, and Gaborik is clearly a better player on RW than LW.

  19. Speaking of Perry. How do you like Anaheim having now 2 large contracts, over $8M per for years? A. So much for wasting half of a season.
    B. how’s that for a team with limited spending?
    C. But most importantly, this just confirms that despite everyone crying about the cap going down, apparently the NHL isn’t worried about it at all. In fact, the cap is set next year. Most of the places I looked project at least 5-7% revenue gross next year comparing to pre lockout year.

  20. carp the rangers do not have a 3rd or 4th line period..

    yep boyle, pyatt, and miller had some offensive zone time last night, they still did not score.

    halpern is not even on the 1st pk unit, get real.

    the 3rd and 4th lines have 7 goals cumulative on the year that is a staggering #, they are like 28th in goals scored, to act like they do not need to improve this and have options is ludicrous…halpern is 35, yep he had a nice pass last night, have a parade…

    based on your own commentary richards and gaborik have severly underachieved so how about this novel idea improve the secondary scoring……just a thought. i assume the brain trust of sather and torts could figure this out maybe we need to try other things out.

    the debbies have less talent, they will try and do almost anything to imporve. That is all I ask..

    halpern, powe, boyle, asham, and haley are not the answer. I give Pyatt a pass he is a passable 4th liner. Miller gets a pass also since he is 20 and has significant upside…

  21. I would do that too, Carp. Swap ’em. I think all deference should be given to getting Gaborik to a spot where he can rip quick shots. He hits the net.

    Yea, ilb. But their situation is that they have 41% tied up in 4 players. Just like the Penguins.

  22. Still snowing up where I am — waiting for it to stop for last shovel o’ the day. Then the beach. In my mind.

  23. I have no idea how people live around here, Carp. 83 high, 70 low last two months. Bet you some of them would live to shovel some snow :-)

  24. I would like to see the line of Stepan centering Hagelin and Nash back together. They had a too short, but productive run.

  25. perry signing is an overpay like all these long term deals. $ 8 + per year. jeez.

    and the experts say he could have gotten more on the open market, I disagree.

  26. Watch them hold on to Bobby Ryan too for as long as they can. Apparently, you can’t have enough goal scorers. Some people get it. Yeah, trade Gaborik.

  27. Doodie Machetto on

    NYR, Not only that, but Perry and Getzlaf’s contracts have next lockout protections built in in the form of $3 million signing bonuses.

  28. stuart, the problem is that they have two fourth lines and no third line.

    how much are you going to be able to improve the scoring of those two lines? not saying it’s acceptable for them to be zeroes, just saying that they are what they are. Put Kreider there if you want, and the goal differential of either of those lines doesn’t change.

    Or do you want to jettison all five players?

    I know your answer and it’s absurd.

  29. Doodie Machetto on

    stuart, he absolutely would have gotten more on the open market. Nine million plus per.

  30. So what you are saying Carp is that you want Cally on that wall. You NEED Cally on that wall.

  31. perry signing is an overpay like all these long term deals. $ 8 + per year. jeez.

    and the experts say he could have gotten more on the open market, I disagree.


    A desperate Toronto with $17M and Perry’s former coach disagree with you disagreeing.

  32. LeBrun on Perry:

    The deal is worth $69 million for an average of $8.63 million per year, a source told ESPN.com’s Pierre LeBrun. It also includes a full “no-move clause,” which went into effect on Monday, the source said.

    so he could not have gotten the eighth year on the open market, and he got a full no-move. That’s pretty much a max deal. Could have gotten more per year on a shorter deal as a UFA.

  33. The third and fourth production makes zero difference if your first and second lines score as much as they currently.

  34. Ideally you’d like to get scoring from anywhere you can, but with an offense that’s built as top heavy as the Rangers when the scoring dries up for the top 6 it’s felt more acutely.

  35. Doodie Machetto on

    These contracts are the same insane contracts that players have been signing since before the most recent lockout except they don’t have all of the BS years at the end to balance out the cap hit.

    This is Perry’s breakdown in dollars (combined signing bonus and salary) for the first 6 years of his deal: 7, 9, 9, 10, 10, 9. Average=9

    This is Richards’ breakdown in dollars (combined signing bonus and salary for the first 6 years of his deal: 12, 12, 9, 8.5, 8.5, 7. Average=9.5

    The difference is Richards then gets 3 bogus years at only 1 million per to lower his cap hit.

    Another example is Zach Parise. Look at Perry’s full 8 years: 7, 9, 9, 10, 10, 9, 8, 7. Average=8.6.

    Parise’s first 8 years: 12, 12, 11, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9. Average=10.

    These are the same contracts! They just can’t cheat the cap anymore.

  36. Carp – I thought we weren’t engaging on the Kreider for 4th line arguments?

    Also, how could Kreider replace Halpern, Stuart? Maybe I am misunderstanding your posts but Kreider isn’t a Center or at least good at faceoffs.

  37. Can only imagine what Malkin is gonna get. I think MAF is going to have to be a cap sacrifice for the Pens to have a shot keeping him.

  38. Doodie Machetto on

    As someone who thinks Kreider should be in the lineup, the answer to that question is that Kreider takes Halpern’s spot in the active roster, but he takes Boyle’s spot in the lineup on the third line. Boyle then moves down to center the 4th line.

  39. I see where you’re going for it, Doodie. I just don’t think Kreider will be up here until we give up on the season.

    If we are going to win every game by 1 goal you can’t have Kreider out there making serious defensive lapses that lead to goals. They cost you the game.

  40. It is nauseating to think Richards is making $12m this season to play 40-something games…

    And, yes, with the big names now off the board, I don’t expect Richards gets bought out until after next season…

  41. Boyle has hands like feet, he is a 4th liner at best. Pyatt is 4th liner also, maybe marginal 3rd on a good day. Sign Zuc, bring up Kreider and let them play.

  42. Doodie Machetto on

    NYR Fan, they might have to pull the trigger this summer just to make sure he is healthy.

  43. $5M cap hit though.

    Half of their D is FA that year too. I’d say Orpik and Niskanen are gone. Letang will be tricky to re-sign too. He’s in line to get $5M-$6M. Let’s say Malkin gets $10M per year. They’d have $40M or thereabouts tied up in 7 players $45M tied up in 8 if you count MAF. They do have a decent amount of D coming up to keep their blueline cheap. Still, filling out 14 to 15 players at about a $1.5M per player, gonna be tough.

  44. I don’t have a problem with them doing it in the summer… But, it’s not like we have a plan b to replace him. (yes, I know he sucks)

    But I agree that is a risk that the Rangers should not take…can’t buy him out unless he’s healthy…

  45. Stranger Nation on

    NYR – equally nauseating to think how little defensive effort (i.e. hustle) is involved with his game.

    Remember when Torts was asked to tone it down in practices because they were getting worn down? Wonder if Richie Rich as the perpetrator…

    Mike Keane 0.5

  46. Stranger Nation on

    Imagine with Hags had soft hands to put some of the multitude of scoring opps in the cage?

    Jan Erixon 2.0

  47. Doodie Machetto on

    CTB, the increase on Malkin to 10 million is only another 1.3 million. Buy out Paul Martin to free up 5 million. They might lose a guy or two but I think Letang is definitely back and probably two of Kunitz, Orpik, and Niskanen.

  48. You’re right, NYR. It would be fine to buy him out but we have no replacement. The only option is to throw Miller onto a 2nd line role which probably isn’t a healthy thing to do to a 20 year old.

  49. I don’t like thinking about soft hands on Hags or any man

    I’d prefer them on Rose McGowan…that’s my idea of a four leaf clover

  50. Stepan showed a bit more than Miller though. I know what you’re saying though, Doodie. I would like to give that job to Miller and say “good luck kid” and see if he can do it. I just don’t think he’s showing enough scoring potential or assist potential to warrant that move.

    Stepan put up 45 Points that year and followed it up with 51.

    Miller has 4 pts. And his linemates aren’t really lighting it up off his entrance passes.

  51. Doodie Machetto on

    Or you bring in a guy on a short-term deal. Someone like Ribeiro, Roy, McDonald, Bozak, Boyes etc.

  52. bull dog line on

    I think Miller’s best position is center. I think he may be a 2nd or a 3rd line center. maybe a combo center.

  53. bull dog line on

    and can we please stop calling Richards line the top line. whatever line Stepan has centered has been the top line for a good month now. Stepan is the number 1 center.

  54. Marilyn Quayle used to be able to eat corn on the cob through a chain link fence.

  55. Good afternoon all! Miller last night took my breath away, that’s all I gotta say for now….Cripes, even Torts had more of a reaction that he did! Will be late for tonight’s game. Hope we keep up the, um, momentum…..

  56. not complicated some version of this

    cally stepan hagelin

    nash richards gabby

    kreider boyle miller

    pyatt zucc and haley.

    you want to suit up halpern instead of haley, have fun…

    play kreider 15 minutes a game whichever line you want. halpern’s + – would be no better then kreider if he played…i think much worse…

    they need a 3rd/4th line center. do we have anyone in the minors or they need to make a trade. WHAT A NOVEL CONCEPT MAKING A TRADE..

    accepting there 3rd and 4th lines as they are is a joke…underate this deficiency all you want. they get some remotely reasonable production from their 3rd and 4th lines and they are in 6th place in the conference….

    10 goals difference ytd is a huge #….

  57. Jeff in South Dakota on

    36 F and sunny here in SD! I think you keep the team you got this year and see how it all shakes out. I’m not an advocate of trying to trade up at this point especially during the short season and with the limited amount of assets that will be available this year. Teams in the west especially are in such tight races that we are not going to get talent unless we part with talent. I’m for keeping the roster as is unless injuries mandate we shop outside the organization.

  58. bull dog line on

    let me rephrase that Carp,
    I think Miller best position for the Rangers is center. he may very well be a better winger, but for this team, I think center is where he should play.
    calling me Rex was very hurtful.

  59. I didn’t call you Rex. You were kidding about that, right?

    I think Miller’s going to be a good player. I don’t think he’s ready to play NHL center, especially if he feels more comfortable on the wing.

  60. Rangers are definitely going to need somebody to fill in as 1C if they buyout Richards. Either this year or next.

  61. bull dog line on

    yes of course I was kidding. thought you were calling me Rex, as in Rex Ryan. that would be hurtful.

  62. I would take Orpik as a #5 Dman. Lord knows we could use some of what he brings on the blue line.

    Way I see it they’ve molded this team back into what it was towards the end of the Jagr era. They’re top heavy with some dead weight and some guys that are supposed to be doing more offensively than they can.

    You have to look at it this way- as it stands, they have 6 forwards they can build around over the next 4-5 years. Disappointments, injuries and acquisitions not withstranding:
    Nash, Callahan, Hagelin, Stepan Miller and Kreider. So with that said have a ball deciding if you’d keep Gaborik for less money and what you’d do when with Richards

  63. fine.
    Jeff says play it out.. Florida should play things out not the Rangers. henrik is 31, the window only stays open so long. GUys get hurt etc.

    you try to do the best now.. this team is young but things happen, staal could have lost his career it happens.

    rangers need 2 more forwards that can play. not be stars but that can play, score on occassion and use speed and size to make it difficult for the other team.. If that is an outrageous opinion or request, I am guilty as charged. I am not asking for Bobby Ryan, but 2 guys who can score at a 15 to 25 goal level during a full season….

    2 guys at 15 goals each compared to Powe or Halpern or Boyle at what 6 goals.

    goal difference is 24 in a season that is huge.

  64. bull dog line on

    Stepan is the number 1 center, and incase you did not notice, they are in trouble. Richards is the 2.

  65. manny you got rocks in your head. kreider at 15 minutes is outrageous and you thinking halpern, boyle, powe, and the crew of dreck will turn it around is folly of the highest order….

  66. IMO, any line that has Richards on it cannot be considered your top line. I don’t care who he’s playing with. He stinks!

  67. Doodie Machetto on

    “Rangers are definitely going to need somebody to fill in as 1C if they buyout Richards. Either this year or next.”

    They need someone to fill in as 1C if they DON’T buy out Richards. At least by buying him out you won’t be buried under that contract anymore.

  68. Doodie Machetto on

    and I agree with bulldog and have been saying it for some time: Stepan is the #1 center on the team. He is not a true #1C, but he is by far the best we have in the entire organization.

  69. Stuart – Kreider is *not* getting 15 minutes on this team. That’s more than JT Miller.

    Kreider was getting about 4 when he was up here and he looked lost in those 4. Why would he all of a sudden be able to handle 15 minutes.

    Remember, he doesn’t play on the PK at the NHL level. He also doesn’t play on the PP at the NHL level (or AHL level really).

  70. I agree that Stepan is the #1 Center on this team and, personally, I don’t see a reason why he can’t be a #1. What’s the big deal? As Maloney was saying, this team is only 20 or so games into development. One of the guys that knows the system best and is excelling at it is Stepan. Why can’t he remain our top center?

  71. Stuart – do you know how much more defensively responsible Boyle is than Kredier? It’s not even a competition. Kreider can’t be trusted at the NHL level right now. He will give up opportunities to the other team and when your team is winning by 1 goal a game that cannot happen.

  72. Stepan isn’t going to be the no1 center on this team. When they make a decision on Richards they’ll have to have found a target to invest in. One who is a first line center with the size and skill of a 1st line center

  73. Doodie Machetto on

    BTW, I imagine Michael St. Croix starts getting heavy minutes in the AHL next season. Likewise for Lindberg.

  74. Hank, he’s the only guy on the team who has put up legitimate NHL No. 1 center numbers. The only hope this team has is he figures it out. And please don’t make it sound like I’m defending him. He’s been the worst player, based on expectations, on the entire team.

  75. Fair Enough. I just think that Stepan has really picked up his scoring pace this season and if he continues that pace, plus the assists he is capable of, I think in a year or two the kid is a legit #1.

  76. no, bull dog, I was referring to that guy who posted under Rexx.

    I would never call anybody Rex Ryan, unless my intent was to really hurt their feelings. I wouldn’t do that to you.

  77. Also, anybody know a good head doctor / rocks guy? Apparently I have rocks in my head!

  78. and Hank, if he’s playing with Nash and Gaborik, that’s the No. 1 line, and I don’t care who else is playing with whom, or who else is on the team.

  79. iWicky "Frag Out!!!" on

    Are we back to people wanting all hall of fame offencive players on all four lines all getting paid far below open market value??

    The hockey cluelessness for some continues!

  80. bull dog line on

    I get what your saying about Richards, Carp.
    Stepan is performing like the top center. Richards is not.

  81. He was throwing haymakers! Iginla is awesome. He tries harder than anyone that has ever been on the Flames and ever will be on the Flames. All in a futile effort.

  82. iNYR,

    I like your idea of trying Cally at Center. My top two lines would be:

    Hagelin / Stepan / Nash

    Miller / Cally / Gabby

    Why not give it try?

  83. Carp, I understand all that about Richards past and I agree that any line that includes Nash and Gaborik has to be considered the top line. I know I went a little overboard there due to my distain for the way that Richards PLAYS NOW. I understand that they need him to play like he used to and that they have a huge investment in him. I also understand Torts loyalty to him. I just don’t see any evidence that he will ever be that player again and this has now been a pretty big sample size. I hope he proves me wrong, but I just don’t see it happening.

  84. Doodie Machetto on

    Manny, I don’t know. A lot of good, hard workers have gone through Calgary. Gilmour, Niuewendyk, Roberts, Fleury, to name a few.

  85. Sorry to pile on, but Richards had shifts in the D Zone last night where was coasting, gliding and/or doing figure 8’s. I couldn’t believe my eyes. He’s either
    a) clueless
    B) lazy
    C) out of shape
    D) combination of each
    E) all of the above
    F) all of the above and vastly overpaid

  86. Doodie Machetto on

    Papa, you’re absolutely right on Richards’ D-zone play. I was watching how poor his effort was in the D zone on the Carolina goal as it was unfolding. Just no effort at all, poor positioning, poor decisions. Absolutely terrible.

  87. Doodie, sad to say but the reality is, Richards would probably be a healthy scratch for Pittsburg and maybe Boston as well.

  88. Sioux-per-man on

    You would think Richards would get his points just skating between Nash & Gaborik.

    It’s just a matter of time before the barn door open for this line, NOW with they hit the door when it’s open, or the net and score? Because last night I lost count how many times they missed the net, at least 8 times if you add in McD’s and Del Zotto’s shots.

    Funny how Hagelin and Cally make ever line better.

    Miller seems like he could be close. Now with a “full” year of Pro hockey can Kreider help this team in the playoffs like last year????

    How long before Lindberg and Fast get a look? Hagelin-Lindberg-Fasth that’s going to be a fun ling to watch some day.

  89. Sioux-per-man on

    Fella’s quick question? On Henrik Goalie mask, who are the ladies on the right side? Does anyone know?

  90. Paul in sunrise on

    Trading Gaborik is not something worth doing. 40 goal scorers are so rare. He will get out of the funk he is in and regain the form. If not no trade will bring any value that would put rangers over the top.

    Rangers need another center. There was a lot of talk about that Paul stasny kid in Colorado. Is he in play?

    No way would sather trade gabby to the bruins. Ever.

    Kreider needs more time to be a pro. He will learn that in the A. He will earn his next call up on merit not by reputation from playoffs.

    Hags has been a great find in the 5 th round. Really great compliment to the stars. Any line he is on is the top line. All good forechecking and scoring chances start with him this year.

    The two swedes in SEL can play. That would be great if they can contribute next year. Then he third line has affordable and talented players.

    6-8 defenceman sounds good. Slats needs to work that magic.

    Hope all is well with youse guys

  91. Cross Check Charlie on

    How does Richards go from an all-star to a buy-out candidate in such a short period of time? It’s not like he’s had a lot of injuries, unless he has and nobody knows about it. I don’t understand.

  92. Hate to break up a good, healthy Richards-bashing — his defense has not been good — but on the Staal goal, he is skating stop-start, churning his legs to get in front of Semin’s potential shot, successfully, so Semin dishes to Staal, whom McD., puck-watching, has left alone behind him for an easy goal. Nash tries to cover down but is too late.

  93. 3C – I’ll start by asking for a tube of Lotrimin Jock Itch lotion, then we’ll work our way up once I have gained your confidence. :))

  94. Our “first line” spent most of last night chasing the puck in our own zone. I expect they will do better tonight.

    The second line looked good all night. I hope these lines can stay together for a while.

  95. Jeff in South Dakota on

    NYRangers Torts: “We’re dying to get a guy who’s six-foot three and skates like hell into our lineup, but we’re not going to do it at expense of him”

    And ya ain’t gonna get him fer the likes of the bottom six…stewie

  96. Devil coach DeBoer reports in pre-game pressors that each Devil center approached him separetly during the morning pre game skate and “volunteered” to play head to head against the Ramger #1 line, Centered by Brad Richards tonight.

  97. Anyone know what’s up with lunquist’s overnight improvement in moving/handling the puck. Did he all of a sudden decide to start practicing?

  98. stranger nation on

    Hey Norm, our those rose colored glasses you where watching Richards prescription strength. ;-p

  99. Cross Check, gee I guess it has something to do with who is doing the evaluating before spending millions ya think?

  100. Slat’s magic has been 5mm per annum do sit on his a** and smoke cigars for 13 years!

    We must get access to those pictures!

  101. Doodie Machetto on

    Norm, I don’t know what you were watching, but it clearly wasn’t the same play I watched. First, Richards, drifts into the defensive zone, legs totally straight (this is what initially caught my attention). He then goes to the center of the high slot to chase a streaking Canes player (can’t see who). The pass then goes to Semin, and Girardi engages the Canes player that Richards had went to cover. Now Semin has the puck at the point and is Richards’ responsibility. Instead of skating out to him and actually challenging Semin to beat him, he does this lame, one knee shuffle to prevent him from shooting, but just giving Semin carte-blanche to just wait for the perfect pass. If Semin had wanted to, he could have just accelerated and blow right past Richards’ prone position.

    There’s no question McD should have had the backside covered, but Richards’ play (or lack thereof) on that sequence is indefensible.

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