Hurricanes at Rangers tonight

345

Pre-game notes courtesy of the NYR:

NEW YORK RANGERS vs. CAROLINA HURRICANES
Monday, Mar. 18, 7:00 p.m.
Madison Square Garden – New York, NY
Rangers: 13-12-2 (28 pts)
Hurricanes: 15-11-1 (31 pts)

TONIGHT’S GAME

The Rangers will face-off against the Carolina Hurricanes at Madison Square Garden (7:00 p.m. — TV: MSG Network; Radio: ESPN 98.7), in the first game of a back-to-back set. The Blueshirts currently rank fourth in the Atlantic Division standings, and rank 10th in the Eastern Conference, with a record of 13-12-2 (28 pts). The Rangers enter the contest having been defeated by the Pittsburgh Penguins, 3-0, on Saturday at CONSOL Energy Center, to complete their four-game road trip. The Blueshirts have posted a combined record of 2-4-0 in back-to-back games this season, including a 2-1-0 (1-0-0 at home) record in the first game. The Hurricanes enter the contest with a 15-11-1 (31 pts) record to rank eighth in the Eastern Conference, and have lost their last two games. Following tonight’s contest, the Rangers will complete their back-to-back set when they face-off against the New Jersey Devils tomorrow, Mar. 19, at Prudential Center (7:00 p.m.), in an Atlantic Division matchup.

RANGERS vs. HURRICANES:
– All-Time: 59-48-7-2 overall (36-17-4-2 at home; 23-31-3-0 on the road)
– 2013: Tonight is the first of three meetings this season, and the only meeting at Madison Square Garden
– Last Season: New York was 4-0-0 overall (2-0-0 mark at home; 2-0-0 mark on the road). The Rangers out-scored the Hurricanes, 17-8, including a 7-1 advantage in the third period. New York was 2-13 (15.4%) on the power play, while the penalty kill was 10-12 (83.3%) in the series. Marian Gaborik led the Rangers with four assists and seven points, while Gaborik and Brad Richards tied for the series high with three goals apiece. Henrik Lundqvist was 1-0-0 with a 1.00 GAA and .971 Sv%, and Martin Biron was 3-0-0 with a 2.34 GAA and .916 Sv%.
– The Blueshirts have won six of their last seven games against the Hurricanes, having out-scored Carolina, 24-16, over the span
– The Rangers enter the contest with a three-game winning streak against the Hurricanes at MSG, and have out-scored Carolina, 11-4, in those contests
– New York ranks 14th in the NHL with a 9-5-1 (19 pts) record at home; Carolina is tied for ninth in the NHL with an 8-5-1 (17 pts) mark on the road
– The Rangers are 5-2-0 vs. the Southeast Division this season; the Hurricanes are 5-1-1 vs. the Atlantic Division this season
– New York lists no former Hurricanes on their roster
– Carolina lists one former Ranger on their roster: Bobby Sanguinetti (2009-10)

INDIVIDUAL CAREER LEADERS vs. HURRICANES:
– Henrik Lundqvist — 20 GP, 11-8-1, 2.37 GAA, 1 SO
– Martin Biron — 22 GP, 13-4-1-2, 2.50 GAA, 1 SO
– Brad Richards — 50 GP, 14-31-45
– Marian Gaborik — 18 GP, 10-11-21
– Jeff Halpern — 52 GP, 16-13-29
– Ryan McDonagh — 6 GP, 1-3-4

SPECIAL TEAMS:
The Rangers’ power play is 9-42 (21.4%) in the last 15 games, while the Blueshirts’ penalty kill is 46-53 (86.8%) in the last 18 games. New York has posted a record of 8-4-1 when not allowing a power play goal.
Power Play: The Rangers did not tally a goal in two power play attempts (3:55) on Saturday at Pittsburgh. New York ranks 24th overall (13-86, 15.1%) and 20th at home (9-51, 17.6%). The Rangers are 2-8 (7:46) in five-on-three situations (last – 3/3 vs. BUF), and 1-1 (0:21) when four-on-three (last – 3/7 at NYI). Shorthanded goals allowed (3): 2/19 vs. MTL (Diaz, EN); 2/21 at OTT (Silfverberg); 3/3 vs. BUF (Gerbe).
Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts surrendered one goal to the Penguins in three power play attempts (5:34) on Saturday at Pittsburgh. New York is tied for 10th overall (78-94, 83.0%) and ranks 17th at home (47-56, 83.9%). The Rangers are 5-5 (5:52) in three-on-five situations (last – 3/10 at WSH), and 3-3 (4:19) when three-on-four (last – 3/3 vs. BUF). Shorthanded goals for (2): 1/20 vs. PIT (Nash); 3/12 at BUF (Stepan).
Four-on-Four: New York did not tally/yield a goal in two four-on-four situations (2:05) on Saturday at Pittsburgh, and are now minus-1 in 18 four-on-four situations (33:21) this season. Four-on-four goals for (1): 1/23 vs. BOS (Gaborik). Four-on-four goals allowed (2): 1/20 vs. PIT (Letang); 1/23 vs. BOS (Horton).

BACK-TO-BACKS
The Rangers will begin their fourth of six back-to-back sets this season tonight against Carolina. New York has posted a combined record of 2-4-0 in back-to-back games, including a 2-1-0 (1-0-0 at home; 1-1-0 on the road) record in the first game and an 0-3-0 (0-2-0 at home; 0-1-0 on the road) mark in the second.

SOUTHEAST FEAST
The Rangers have posted a record of 20-5-2 in their last 27 games against Southeast Division opponents, including a 5-2-0 mark against the Southeast Division this season. The Blueshirts have out-scored their Southeast Division opponents, 89-55, over the span.

HOW SWEEP IT IS
New York swept their season series against Carolina last season with a 4-0-0 record, marking the first time since the 2002-03 season the Rangers completed a season series sweep against the Hurricanes (4-0-0).

SAVING THE BEST FOR LAST
Rick Nash is currently tied for the team lead with nine goals, having tallied his first eight goals of the season in the third period. Nash is the second player in NHL history whose first eight goals of a season were tallied in the third player, while fellow Ranger Arron Asham is the other to have accomplished the feat, in 2003-04, as a member of the New York Islanders.

GOAL SCORING LEADERS SINCE 2009-10
Marian Gaborik has been among the league’s goal scoring leaders since joining the Rangers in 2009-10. Last season, Gaborik became the fifth player in Rangers history to record 100 goals in his first three seasons with the club, and became the third Ranger in franchise history to register multiple 40-goal seasons with the team. Entering this season, his 105 goals from 2009-10 to 2011-12 ranked seventh in the NHL, while his .48 goals per game average ranked third (behind Steven Stamkos and Alex Ovechkin) over that time period. Including games played this season, Gaborik currently ranks seventh in the league with 113 goals scored and is tied for third with .46 goals per game since the beginning of the 2009-10 season.

A BROADWAY HIT
The Rangers rank fourth in the NHL in hits (820) this season. Rangers’ captain Ryan Callahan and forward Brian Boyle are tied for the team lead and eighth in the NHL with 92 hits apiece.

MEASURING UP
The Rangers rank among the Eastern Conference leaders in several statistical categories…
– 3rd (5th in NHL) in GAA — 2.41
– 2nd (6th in NHL) in FO% — 52.0%
– 1st (2nd in NHL) in Fewest PIM/G — 10.7
– 3rd (4th in NHL) in Hits — 820
– T-3rd (T-7th in NHL) in Blocked Shots — 430
– T-2nd (T-5th in NHL) in OT wins — 2

QUICK HITS:
– The Rangers did not surrender a power play opportunity against on Mar. 7 at Long Island, marking the first time the Blueshirts did not have a shorthanded situation in a game since Jan. 10, 2012, in a 2-1 shootout win vs. PHX. The last time the Rangers did not allow a power play attempt against the Islanders was Jan. 7, 1989, in a 5-1 win at Long Island.
– The Blueshirts have had 13 players make their regular season debut with the team this season
– The Rangers’ power play is 9-42 (21.4%) in the last 15 games
– The Blueshirts’ penalty kill is 46-53 (86.8%) in the last 18 games
– New York has registered a point in eight of 10 games when scoring the first goal this season (7-2-1), and are 6-10-1 when allowing the game’s first goal
– The Blueshirts have posted a 6-0-1 mark when leading after the first period, and are 7-0-0 when leading after the second period

THE HOT LIST:
– Henrik Lundqvist — has held opponents to three goals or fewer in each of his last eight games (4-4-0, 2.12 GAA, .926 Sv% over the span)
– Rick Nash — has tallied a point in 10 of his last 13 games (seven goals, nine assists over the span)
– Derek Stepan — has tallied a point in seven of the last nine games (four goals, five assists over the span)
– Ryan Callahan — six points (four goals, two assists) in the last seven contests
– Carl Hagelin — 13 points (six goals, seven assists) in the last 17 games, including four assists in the last six contests
– Ryan McDonagh — 11 points (two goals, nine assists) in his last 17 games, including six assists in the last nine contests

MILESTONES IN SIGHT:
– Ryan Callahan — 3 assists from 100th NHL career
– Michael Del Zotto — 1 point from 100th NHL career
– Steve Eminger — 3 points from 100th NHL career
– Rick Nash — 2 goals from 300th NHL career; 3 games from 700th NHL career
– Brad Richards — 3 points from 800th NHL career
– Marc Staal — 3 points from 100th NHL career
– Anton Stralman — 3 points from 100th NHL career
– John Tortorella — 3 wins from 400th NHL career

INJURIES:
– Michael Sauer (concussion, 12/5/11) — 27
– Arron Asham (injured, 2/19) — 12
– Marc Staal (injured, 3/5) — 6
Total Man-Games Lost: 68

 

 

About Author

345 Comments

  1. Good morning! It’s gonna be a hockey free 10 days, so hopefully our boys are back in when I get back.

    10 days of soccerpansy work in Copenhagen and Turkey, looking forward to some sun!

  2. Rangers’ record since February 14, 2012: 37-33-4. And yes that includes playoffs. They miss lots of guys for sure, but what they miss most was that 3 month stretch where all the bounces went their way and they always just found a way to win.

  3. Onecupin73yearsandcounting on

    Watch them come out and play like champions tonight.. well one of them will !

  4. Hah! Optimists! Well, I’ll put in the requisite and hopeful LGR, but do not expect much these days. The players looked lost and demoralized on the ice last game. Looks like Tort’s firestorm of criticism backfired and Sather may be looking for a new coach (I’m a fan of Tort’s coaching). Maybe they’ll see the light and turn it around, and the secondary scoring will suddenly appear, miracles do happen…but increasingly looking like last year was our year.

  5. watch ranger fans weeping on you tube. put in “kim jong il weeping” and see what pops us. Thats us! Brainwashed. Pathetic. Does the ledge have room for one more?

  6. One good week and the Rangers can be back in the thick of it. the problem is the sands of time are dwindling down on the season. Also, can we keep the other team from scoring in the first three minutes of the game ? Beau Bennett a name that will live in infamy.

    The Rangers need this win tonight to jump start the week into a positive plane but face Dan Ellis or Justin Peters in net who will mos likely play Jacque Plante tonight during the one period ( pick one period any period) we actually get chances.

    Sam & Joe are already mourning that they wont be able to gush over all three Staals on the ice, the under over for Staal brother banter tonight even without Marc playing s FIVE for you betting people.

    LGR !

  7. Czechthemout!!! on

    Peter

    Thanks for digging up those stats. Like many of us said, last year was an aberration. They are bascically a .500 hockey team that chases 7,8,9 place. If not for a 30 game stretch last year, we would have finished barely in the playoffs.

    Read Larry Brooks’ article today. Gabby is being shopped which means they will not get max value for him if at all. The key when you trade players is to do it out of a position of strengh. I particularly find what Brooks wrote about Kreider interesting and also disturbing.

  8. I’ll take the over as long as it includes pre-game Sam and/or Joe banter as well.

  9. Going to my first and only game of the season tonight. My wife won them from some garden picture promotion on facebook. It was pictures from the water or something like that.

    Hoping for a win, but I know hope is not a strategy.
    LGR!

  10. The difference between this years .500 and last years: they were in every game last year competing and for the most part, the losses could have gone either way…..this year, not so much.

  11. haha papa bear. Also the record 37-33-4. is misleading it includes four ties. Is this some fuzzy math to make us look mediocre !

  12. Win the next two……alive and kicking.

    Split the next two…..same old, same old.

    Lose the next two……..the song is over.

  13. I think Boston wants Gaborik but I don’t know who they are willing to give us for him.

  14. I miss the Whalers. Spent yesterday playing NHL 96 on super NES. Andrew Cassels w the hat trick

    Anyways, back to debating on whether the turn around is coming

  15. Stranger Nation on

    Regarding last season – we had an amazing, really absolutely amazing, Nov – Jan stretch where the team’s intensity was in playoff hockey mode, blocking shots, grinding, jamming, ‘as big as’, the whole nine yards… Over all it was the first team, probably ever in my Ranger fandom, that was tougher than others teams and that was absolutely thrilling to watch after being the red headed rented donkey for ever.

    Then our opponents started to get in PO hockey mode post All Star break and we were basically a .500 team with some opportune goals. Mngt saw this and realized that they needed better offensive players because the attitude which can get you wins in the first half of the season, will not work as well when every other team is jacked up.

    This season because of the lockout, all the teams start in the second half and are in PO hockey mode so we lose the mental edge and the Torts’ pre season conditioning edge and are basically a .500 hockey team with a good D core, a very good Goalie, some emerging young offensive players and some very over paid front line guys.

    Sather did an absolutely horrible job managing the bottom six of the roster and Richards is starting to look like Mike Keane 2.0. So forget last Fall/early Winter and realize we are a .500 team waiting for some help from the youngsters to make it our of mediocrity.

  16. 4-0 win tonight and a hat trick for Gaborik.

    Can’t think of a straight up deal for Gaborik. I’ve heard names mentioned like Ryan’s Clowe and Malone who both bring some grit, especially Clowe. But i don’t see the benefit of trading him unless we are also adding a top prospect and #1 pick. We don’t need to trade him as he’s not a bad character that we need out of the dressing room, he just needs a kickstart

  17. Now, if Sather could move Richie (see Gomez) to a team that is playoff bound who will use him for the stretch run and playoffs knowing they can buy him out in the summer…….. That would be great! We’d be rid of him and we’d also have our 2nd compliance buyout in our pocket in case……Nash eventually, (say after next season) becomes too expensive ($ cap hit) for his deliverables.

  18. Stranger Nation on

    Suspect a deal acquiring Richards would need that acquiring team’s GM to have his head examined, but get er done

  19. plain and simple this week 4 game is the season for sure even for you optimistic people. some people like myself think this team is shot already

    carolina(8th at moment) devils (7th) florida and washington. i mean 6 of 8 pts minimum required.

    calling kreider up only matters like brooksie said in today ny post if he blames him top 6 mins and pp time. if not no sense in 4th line minutes at 6-8 mins per game

  20. I also suspect buying out Nash would instantly indicate this team is in full rebuilt mode, Papa. May as well trade Hank to get some value back at the same time. Not happening. I’m also not convinced they’re actively shopping Gaborik. He is far from his true value at the moment, I’m sure they know it. They also know he is entering his contract year, perhaps his last contract.

  21. I agree with Brooks that Gaborik should play on the R, but the notion that Torts keeps playing him on the L for Gaborik to fail is preposterous. Only suicidal coach would like his only capable 40-goal scorer to fail.

  22. Ilb.. Not suggesting they B/O Nash. But..By the end of next season, it might be nice to have that option.

  23. Having said that, if they lose all games this week may make them sellers at the deadline. Stay positive, ‘heads, we’ll win this race.

  24. This is a big week plain and simple (I’m even agreeing with the sky-is-falling-people). Anything less than 6 points is a minimum, just to keep pace or get a slightly ahead if things fall right.

  25. czechthemout!!! on

    Ilb

    Agree on your point about Gabby’s value right now. But if he was playing like he can, we would be better off and Gabby would not be available. But that’s not where we are today and he is in fact on the market and if we can trade him , we won’t get equal value for him.

  26. it will be very interesting to see who becomes available around the league this summer through buy outs

  27. I don’t know what option that would leave them with, Papa? Gaborik will be gone either way, getting rid of Nash places them back into having no 1st line players. Hoping that Malkin and Co. Becomes available isn’t realistic.

  28. Sioux-per-man on

    4 Games basically at home! With the 5th game against the Flyers in Philly.

    Rangers could turn the ship around with 9 out of 10 pts. 2 games in hand against the Devils and Leafs, plenty of games left to get back on track.

    Home ice against the Southeast, perfect time to start a new winning streak.

    Bleed Blue, Go SIOUX!!! (Sioux win 6-0 last night – next week WCHA Final 5)

    Let’s Go Rangers!!!

  29. thats the right thinking sioux!!! optimism, pass it along. ur not from sioux city iowa by any chance are you? i moved from long island to iowa few years ago

  30. Surprisingly, the wifi in Antigua is very good. I’ll be able to watch my slingbox tonight easily. I’m on the beach at the moment blogging on my iPad, lol.

  31. Carp,

    I don’t get it. The guys leads the team to semis last year does a great job with this team all of the regular season and now everybody wants to show him the door.

    I don’t think the players have tuned him out. And I don’t think he should be fired like all of the others on the Rangers blogs. The players are not performing and for the most part that should be on them.

    The team is clearly flawed and most likely will not make the playoffs. But guys like Gabby and Richards and Girardi and Boyle have to be held accountable. And Lundqvist can be better too.

    Torts should call up Kreider immediately and let him play.

    Your thoughts?

  32. carolinas better than we are now so i can hope we can sht the 2 guys who are related by plasma cells and dna down tonight. i forgot their names. and the triple sow cow axle deluxe skinnerd kid

  33. Option? Payroll flexibility, unloading another star who fizzled on Bway ( if that’s the case ), spending money elsewhere.

    I hope it is never considered because that would mean Nash’s value to the team is commensurate with his salary, which would be what we all want, I guess.

  34. I’d hate to see the Rangers go into rebuild mode…
    Sather just started the rebuild a few years ago, then traded parts of the rebuild for Nash…
    I think any rebuild should be done someone other than the failure that is Sather…

  35. I believe in this team. They gave us that feel last year. Say what you want, but the core is still here. They haven’t replace some complimentary players, but the foundation and the coach are still here. The team is still young and added an elite player. I won’t become negative, and I won’t turn my back on this team. Not after they showed what they could do. For the record, I never thought this would be their year, lockout or not. I think next year is when they’re going to go all the way. That’s why I’m very reluctant to accept their decision to trade Gaborik now. And I doubt they will, in general, change this team drastically just to make the playoffs this year. They are fully capable of doing it as constructed. Their best players, Hank included, should start playing to their capabilities, and they’ll be fine.

  36. ilb,
    agreed, I’m also a believer, but it bother’s me that they seem to have slipped back a few notches…
    Also loosing 5 of your forwards is a pretty big turnover. It usually takes a year for things to get back on track.

  37. ilb, bon repos! Ah that Caribbean water. Rain/snow predicted here late this afternoon. Warm inside MSG, however; some might even say hot. No surrender!

  38. I thought love was only true in fairytales
    Meant for someone else but not for me
    Love was out to get me
    That’s the way it seemed
    Disappointment haunted all my dreams

    Then I saw her face, now I’m a believer
    Not a trace of doubt in my mind
    I’m in love, I’m a believer
    I couldn’t leave her if I tried

  39. great no kreider called up. going with the same crew of losers.

    good news asham skating that will help about as much as me playing.

    why sit halpern, powe, boyle, and the rest of the dreks…

    what a joke………….sather and torts being proactive like it. maybe they can call up or trade for some more plumbers.. i forgot halperns psyche is fragile sitting him would ruin him, after all the guy is only 35 on a 1 yr deal, need his production nect year….

    f–k

  40. I’m sorry, but the NYR think they can make a major trade now and that it will get them further in the playoffs? How many more top NHL players do you need on one roster? If we cannot win with what we now have, then it’s going to be a coaching change in June. We just got Nash and he is a beast. Torts game, the NYR game is one dimensional. Other teams now know how to play us (if their team has the goods to execute): you beat us on the near boards. We have NO answer to that, time and again. No answer, as we get trapped in our own zone, become exhausted, and leave traffic in front of Hank all day since all we do is slide around the defensive zone all night. I don’t care WHO you bring in: it won’t make any difference in this season’s outcome. We need a counterstrategy way of playing. And once a team has a lead, we are terrible at breaking the trap. Even Winnipeg was successful shutting us down. Gaborik? Torts has totally demoralized and lost this player. LW was about the stupidest idea ever on the heels of his 41 goal season last year. torts is cooked.

  41. yep rangers cannot overcome the loss of john mitchell and fedetnko and dubi..

    give me a break this rationale is a joke.

    like this years team cannot overcome the loss of halpern and boyle.. laughable……

  42. one last stand this week. do they have the passion and urgency or will they fold into the deadline and become a moot point. time will tell.

    back to the ledge. whos coming. i got tequilla and southern comfort

  43. Can’t abide anything with a worm in the bottle, eric, but a couple of Rhett Butlers might perform the trick. :)

  44. gabby isnt scoring but still has double what richards has. 4 measly goals. nate thompson,raffi torres, tom pyatt who has a brother i think, matt cooke and bunch of other minimum wage players have more. yea i know hes a playmaker, so what. look at mike ribiero. played 2nd line center behind richards on dallas.the lack of production wouldnt bother me as much right now but hes been terrible and soft in all 3 zones and a turnover machine. its only year 2 of his contract!! just wait till year 9.

  45. Ledge Landlord on

    Confidential Note to Ledge Security: Mr Cooscoos will not be permitted on the ledge. Trouble maker.

  46. maybe theyre folding so maybe we can get 1st overall pick which means the 1st pick in the 2nd round! with the 31st pick the ny rangers select, from sasquatche-wan, greg zzzzzz!!!

  47. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    No point in coming up with a 5 player WBM (c) after last game.

    This could be the game that defines the season. It is against a good team, however, one they can beat if the compete level is there. This is the one they need to come out at the zero minute mark with passion and desperation. Have to turn it around tonight and against the Debs…two teams right above them.

    If they can eek out two wins, then it’s the Panthers, Caps, and Flyers…maybe, just maybe, they can get back on a roll.

    Or, it’s just game over, season over.

  48. lets hope they dont just eek out 2 wins gravy. i wanna see some angry pissed off rangers tonight and some decisive victories. no more eeking!!! but i get what you meant

  49. Sioux-per-man on

    Grabby no I’m from North Dakota, fan of the Fighting Sioux Hockey and Ranger Hockey since the 80’s. It’s been a long time since the Rangers drafted a Fighting Sioux Player. James Patrick was 1’st round pick for the Rangers in ’81. JT Miller was almost a Fighting Sioux player last year. But I started to bleed blue when Messier became a Ranger in ’91, and have been a Ranger ever since. Just enjoy visiting New York, and going to games at MSG.

    The Fighting Sioux tradition is very similar to the Rangers. My first year in College was the year the Hrkac Circus won the National Championship for the Sioux. I’ve had a passion for hockey ever since. Lots of Fighting Sioux Players to follow in the NHL.

    Then the home town “hero” Matt Cullen, played for the Rangers in ’06-’07.

    This is the year, I’m not giving up, or jumping off the ledge. I still believe in Gaborik, Nash, and Lundqvist can win a hockey game on any given night. They will get into the playoffs this year, and then it’s a whole new season. (ie – Kings of last year).

    How about you Grabby what are some of your greatest Ranger memories?

  50. Doubt you’ll tour with me again. You’ll need wings and we both know how unlikely that will be for you my friend.

  51. were most likely gonna be in 1 goal games here on out so even just eeking out some wins, winning however they have to is better than losing

  52. New Ledge Announcement: Competing Ledge to AFL Instituted. NFL. Nothing Forbidden Ledge.

  53. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    Agree grabby, would like to see them dominate, but baby steps and all…

  54. Stranger Nation on

    We dont’ teach offense – NO offense Smails

    that’s offensive

    I take offense at that comment

  55. Cheer up, sleepy Jean, oh what can it mean
    To a daydream believer and a homecoming queen?

  56. Sioux-per-man on

    Carp – any talk of bring Kreider back up?

    6 goals in the last 8 games. Looks like he might have found his scoring touch again. Rangers need his speed and scoring. The last 3 games, he could have helped on ANY line.

    Thoughts……

  57. Ledge Landlord on

    I have spoken to Ledge Ownership and they have changed policy. Alcohol is now permitted and drinks are on the house…..”on the house!”

  58. With respect to all the comments about trades etc. Doesn’t every successful endeavor have to start with a plan?

    This is what Ranger mgmt. must enunciate at some point. Many have suggested that the Pens were “lucky” to be able to draft Crosby and Malkin, but they had to blow up the roster finish last to do so.

    The Pens plan was not to keep adding high priced vets from other organizations and patching the rest of the roster with cheaper players.

    What is not mentioned in the Pens plan is their drafting ability which as an example has allowed them to aquire two excellent forwards in Kunitz and Neal because they have drafted extremely well with young defensemen giving them the ability to make those trades.

    Other organizations have or are turning themselves around in a relatively short time ,Bruins,Pens,Kings,Hawks and even Coyotes to name a few. I would add the Flyers who are not afraid to shake things up but they are a mystery with the talent level and spotty record this year.

    The point is what is the plan because this annual hyping and average performance doe not indicate progress, repeat again without this goalie they do not contend for anything except the lottery!

  59. I’m in full panic mode. That’s usually when the team shows up and plays a great game.

  60. cool nice stories sioux. um, well i became a fan when my dad and his work buddies took me to a game back in 88. i just remember nicholls,erixon kisio and ogrodnick, few others. i was only 7 so yea but i really got into it about 2 years later i went to another game and enjoyed it much more. was lucky only had to wait 6 years to see us win the cup. wore my 94 cup hat and my kovalev jersey to school all the time. loved fighting with islander fans in school, it was great. cafeteria food fights ranger fans vs isles back in early 90s. my favorite memories obviously the cup season, 97 and gretz n mess reunited. most of my fave memories are when i joined a roller hockey league when i was in high school and played with some friends on my team . i absolutely loved playing the game. would come to the rink way early just to skate around and shoot. my dad took me and played goalie using my little plastic shin pads and a baseball glove. couldnt afford to join the school team though. but yea, the 90’s were it for me man.

  61. Stranger Nation on

    Pens did a great job getting the #1 pick two years in a row, too bad the Ice Mets cant’ replicate – eh, Thomas Paine in the Assen?

  62. ilb has to rinse the sunscreen off his fingers in the pale blue Caribbean before each post.

  63. Sioux-per-man on

    I think Miller – Boyle – Kreider would be a better 3rd line. Kreider’s speed, and scoring, would give this line a threat.

    Boyle & Pyatt are the same player. Not sure who stays on the 3rd line Boyle or Pyatt, Pyatt has scored more.

  64. And cheers to those noble, gritty souls who stay involved and post here even while on vacation! More than Sather would do.

  65. That would be baby food, not sunscreen, coos.

    109 points, first in the East equals average performance? You desperately lacking some common sense, nnsense

  66. Cross Check Charlie on

    Team can’t score. Power play stinks.
    Get Brad Richards.
    Team still can’t score. Power play stinks.
    Get Rick Nash.
    Team still can’t score. Power play stinks.
    What makes anybody think that getting somebody at the trade deadline is going to make a difference?

  67. i can see the disagreement over trading gborik. a $6 mill a year player who has 2 40 goal seasons for the rangers and who is a very talented player.

    I cannot see the inactivity in trying to help the secondary scoring mess. really playing halpern, powe, and others game in and game out and expecting a better result the probability of that occurring is not good.halpern is a PK specialist who is not the 1st option for the Pk, simialr for Powe and these guys cannot play in the offensive zone and cannot score period…

    why not try something else like Kreider… Young guys come up and down like yoyo’s the guy is talented that is obvious and his chance of scoring and his potential compared to the drecks is obvious…haley, asham, boyle, halpern, and powe are not long term assetts for the Rangers is that to hard to see…

    it is almost like they do not give a crap, and they are too stupid to see. the secondary scoring production I bet is the worse in hockey. i bet if you calcualte the rangers 3rd and 4th line scoring compared to other teams it is the lowest in the NHL……

  68. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Stuart – Crosby’s line will finish with more points than the entire ranger team. We don’t need more scoring, we need more defense…..

  69. I’m fair skin Irish, ILB. I put sunscreen on before I turn on the light in the morning.

  70. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    If the rangers finish 8th and play the pens, we will be swept and shutout every game.

  71. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Cave man – ill be happy to drop some e3 in your cave as a housewarming gift.

  72. And Papa Bear kept the night alive with his posts from Key West. Kudos to that indefatigable, melanin challenged brutha.

  73. Guess today and tomorrow will really determine the future of this team. Lose both and I can see some big changes coming.

  74. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Lev – change is coming and ye right soon.

    Cave man – werd up on the deuce coup.

  75. ‘I’ll take Manhattan, the Bronx, and Staten Island, too.
    It’s lovely going through
    The Zoo.’

  76. Saw the Brothers at the Beacon last night. my short review: awesome blues guitar work by Derek Trucks (slide) and Warren Haynes. Awesome.

  77. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    My pleasure – when I measure – it be long like a song – never wrong – answer right – outta sight – in the night – take a bite – mr kite – fairway tight – in the trap – I can rap

    Boyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  78. We need to stop with Kreider nonsense. What happened to him was inevitable considering his age and his stage of development. Exactly what happened to Stepan, Callahan, MDZ. Just because the fans are desperate to win a few games, it doesn’t mean they need to rush his development. And they won’t.

  79. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Papa – I agree – he is Phil Lesh’s go to player in Phil and friends and when the dead tour – he ain’t no Jerry – but not so bad

  80. Stranger Nation on

    Papa – was at Beacon – row #3 off stage and Wareen and Derek ripped my face off.

    Ex3 – jackie Greene with Phil and Friends is purty good too

  81. Gabby should let his hair grow, dye it yellow like Middleton, let it fly. Might bring back memories of youthful flight.

  82. Stranger Nation on

    ilb – agree on next year being the year.

    Would trade Gabby for a LW who scored 25 that played 2 ways – too many RWs now or move Callymon to 3rd line

  83. Stranger Nation on

    Warren playing “Cortez the Killer” with DMB – Steal your face right off your head…I’m melting, I’m melting

  84. Leetchhalloffame on

    Time to bring up Kreider, Thomas, McIlrath & Bourque from Whale. Let ’em get some experience in NHL. This team ain’t goin’ nowhere anyway.

  85. Stranger Nation on

    Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile,
    Nothin’ left to do but smile, smile, smile!!!!

  86. realistically, the Rangers need to win roughly 14 of their remaining games or come up with some combination of 26-28 points in order to make the playoffs. that’s not impossible given the schedule, but .500 the rest of the way may be more likely at this point.

  87. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Like I told you, what I said……. He’s gone… now he’s gone … Like a steam locomotive running down the track.

  88. Snippets of posts from the past week that caused coosfrowns:

    ‘For those geniuses on board who…”

    “Nash stinks. Gutless puke.”

    “Girardi, another gutless puke…”

    “Tortorella, way to get your slobs up for the game…”

    “Lundquist, (sic) you totally stink.”

    “Morons, it’s the players, not the coach.”

    “Utter idiocy.”

    “How’s that europansy Semin doing, geniuses?”

  89. Strange…. Did you see the two contests winners sitting on stage next to the base players left? They didn’t look like they were having fun up there!

  90. Stranger Nation on

    Goin’ where the wind don’t blow so strange,
    Maybe off on some high cold mountain chain.

  91. Most of those from one person I guess, Coos?

    You haven’t been around long enough though, this is nothing.

  92. I bought me a guitar about a year ago and I Learned how to play it in a day or so. And all around town it was well understood that I was knocking ’em out like Johnny B. Goode. Hot licks, showing off, ah, number one.

  93. “Paine in the assen and no sens”, lame insults indicate an inability to both speak respectfully and actually have a idea what you’re talking about.

    On the other hand if any of you mooks want to play internet insult you’ve come to the right place.

    The problem with this approach is I’m much better at it that you two escapees from the Parrot Jungle and I’ll be the one flipped from the blog.

    So let’s be gentlemen and start over. I’d suggest a little more self awareness but I suspect it would only prove how dopey you really are!

  94. Where to start? TOUGH season to be a Rangers fan so far, especially when I bought into the hype that this would be another magical year… Unlike a lot of fans on this blog, I do believe it STILL can be the year, despite evidence to the contrary. I’ll elaborate:

    I took a cab this weekend and had a driver from Ghana and we started talking football/soccer (after discussing that $5 lets you live like a king on the beach for a day). He was highlighting that while the Ivory Coast had great players, they didn’t have team cohesiveness and I laughed and started talking about my Rangers, which he was just starting to follow…

    Fact of the matter, in my eyes, is that we don’t have a full team mentality yet. We have players taking spots out of necessity, not fit… but that doesn’t matter AS MUCH when they’re doing it as part of a machine. We STILL see players skating like every second isn’t essential – which is shocking given our current standing.

    What we need, more than the next “cog” (you always need something), is sincere buy-in to supporting your brother. Haley has been getting it. Girardi gets it. McMonster and Hank get it. Stralman figured it out this year. Nash gets it… Callahan obviously gets it…. but does Taylor Pyatt? Richards? More importantly, it seems a small subsection of the team fails to get it each night. We need a TEAM, top to bottom, focused on nothing more than getting the win. Not stressing about the media, the standings or their place on the team in Tort’s eyes.

    Trading Gabby? Not into it. Guy’s legit, but needs to go back to the right side.

    Sorry, but I don’t see Taylor Pyatt adding a ton on a nightly basis – I want the Kreider.

    Fire Torts? You kidding me? I hate his tirades and wouldn’t respond well to a Coach calling me out in a juvenile fashion but the guy can coach and his resume speaks to that. Most importantly, he cares, respects and is building this franchise.

    Conditioning? Pshht, every other team got the same prep time, arguably less given our games in hand.

    Nope, it all boyles down to PLAYING EVERY SECOND LIKE IT’S THE LAST. Getting back to doing whatever it takes to have more goals than the opponent by the end of the third (or Bettman bonus point extra level). It sounds too simple but when you look at our roster and our potential, it’s not about another goal scorer, it’s about maximizing the desire, passion and execution of those already wearing the sweater.

    Ranger win tonight BIG for MS. 5-2/3. Goals for the Rangers from the Big 3, Hag’s and DelZotto.

    (Not a “must” win but certainly a must win ;-)

  95. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    No sense – just so you know – I dint escape. I still be in the parrot jungle

  96. I’m no fan of the idea of getting rid of Tortorella, but if they trade a slumping star for… what you get for a slumping star, instead of changing coaches, then we’ll have confirmation that there’s rot at the top. Let’s see some Hartford promotions, please, and hope the proven players respond to what now truly is backs to the wall.

  97. I had a cabbie in Manhattan last week who told me that he was the King of the Parrot Jungle before he came here.

  98. First “tell it like it is” article from Brooks in the Post today. Blaming the coach for Gaborik’s season, mishandling Kreider and losing his team..

  99. i would only trade Gabby for someone like Evender Kane . How about BR to San Jiose for big Joe strait up or add someone and take back Murray also

  100. Stranger Nation on

    Papa – jealous you were allowed to experience Whipping Post live.

    Did you see Gabby tied to it?

  101. Six Hours ’til Normandy. Alert all LSTs and various designated amphibious personnel.

  102. kane is 9 years younger and cheaper. of course winnipeg would give us the gift they are a non profit organization.

  103. Stranger Nation on

    Gabby, Stralman, Boyle and Power for Kane, Byfuglein, and Clitsome

    got to get me some…

  104. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    _Read Larry Brooks’ article today. Gabby is being shopped which means they will not get max value for him if at all. The key when you trade players is to do it out of a position of strengh._

    Unless that player’s name is Scott Gomez and the other GM is Bob Gainey.

  105. why would the Jets ever trade Evander Kane for Gaborik

    lol because WE need them Lloyd… ; )

  106. for as big of a bum as Mike Rupp is, his 1 goal, 2 assists have outscored the Rangers entire bottom six for the past 20 games.

  107. Sioux-per-man on

    Gaborik isn’t going anywhere! Talk all you want, but it isn’t going to happen.

    Let him play from his natural position on the right side – TONIGHT! Watch he will start to light the lamp.
    These guys are pro’s, they will find a way to win.

    We need more scoring. Bring Kreider up asap, he doesn’t have a game till Friday night for the Whale. Why not have him on the 3rd line NOW!!!

    Put Boyle or Pyatt on the 4th line, and play him with Haley and Miller. More speed and muscle, and a chance to score. I just don’t see the 3rd line producing much with Boyle and Pyatt on the same line. It looks to much like a checking line if you ask me.

  108. _Nash is the second player in NHL history whose first eight goals of a season were tallied in the third player_

    Does that mean he tallied them in the third person?

    Giannone: “Talk us through that goal, Rick.”

    Nash: “Well, Rick Nash didn’t do much. Rick Nash just had to keep his stick on the ice and Rick Nash got a great pass from Step…”

  109. And the Rangers are quietly 6th in the league for faceoff winning %?

    Guess it doesn’t necessarily influence your record a huge amount then.

  110. Eddie 3x, please don’t hide that obvious intellect behind those silly musings. Same for Coos Coos.

    My comments can be either all hockey or any other subject but if insulted by the BWO’s I will respond. Thank you,thank you thank you.

  111. The team (or coach) needs to realize this isn’t last year’s team. I think they have FAR more offensive talent and they have to play that way. This isn’t a grinding team but a speed and finesse team. They need players who can play that game and most of all they need a QB to set it all up. Remember when Torts mantra was “Safe is death?” Well the style the team played last year was far from that mantra, mostly because the players they had were not that type. This years team resembles that mantra. They need to play and uptempo speed game. Forecheck hard and make quick short passes, shoot the puck and drive to the net. Right now, they play dump and chase with guys who can’t win battles in corner, they have nobody outside of the injured Staal who can QB a breakout rush, and they go down WAY too fast on defense and teams are getting wise to that and either passing or waiting to shoot. I’m bringing up Kreider, I’m signing Zuccarello, I’m getting as many speed guys as I can. And I’m trading for a QB on D. I’m not sure who we could give up though. Perhaps it’s a rent a player for now. Give up a pick and someone like Boyle for that type of D. A Mike Green, if healthy would be perfect, but it would cost us a lot.

  112. Sioux-per-man on

    Brook’s article says they are shopping Gaborik. I only see one team that would make sence, and that would be the Sharks. They need scoring & the Rangers might take Dan Boyle on Defense and Clowe as a rental. Gaborik & Dan Boyle would be a wash, maybe we send Pyatt or Brian Boyle for Ryan Clowe.

    As a fan of huge fan of Gaborik, I don’t want to see it. But there might be a deal in there some where. I’m not sure the Hamr is the answer for us if Staal can’t come back in the next couple of weeks. Boyle might be the answer from the Blue line, and on the Power Play.

    I’d rather see Gaborik break out and start scoring for the Rangers. Tonight would be a Good night!

  113. Sioux-per-man on

    Carp – “IF” Gaborik was dealt in a deal before April 3rd, any players out there you see that would help the Rangers this year?

  114. Stranger Nation on

    I am all for Cried-here being given a shot, but not as a 3rd line winger – that would be mixing oil and gasoline and throwing it in the fireplace. A 3rd line winger is predominantly a checking role, something he is NOT good at. He needs to play on first or second line LW – we need a scoring LW in our top 6 with Hags being the other.

    If Gabby is going to RW, either put Nasher at LW (highest scoring forward moving positions, uhm not good) or move Cally to 3rd line RW (best 2 way player is now with Boyle and a rook, uhm not good, but like it better)

    Whatever you do, DO NOT COACH OFFENSE!!!

  115. I don’t see this team making the playoffs. The bottom six is weak and Richards looks done.

  116. Sioux-per-man on

    Tommy – this team makes the playoffs.

    I agree Richards is flat, but the big 3 could break out the next 5 games.

  117. The equipment that Henrik wears would actually fit him only a little snugly if he was actually the size of his head in the picture above

  118. The body language and the way Gaborik has played tells me Tortarella and Gaborik got something going on behind the scenes, could explain why there shopping him around.

  119. jpg's sister on

    off the subject of NYR for a second if you don’t mind.

    Jpg and my Mom is Italian American of Calabria descent. Nana used to make crispets on March 19, St. Joseph Day. They were fried dough look like a biscuit with raisins and powder sugar on top. Seemed kind of like zeppole.

    carp or anyone, do you have a recipe?

  120. LW3H, Blogging while oblivious!

    Did I read those standings correctly,the dreaded Fishsticks with a similar record to the MSG suits and friends?

    I wonder what will happen if the Brooklyn Islanders begin to out perform the MSG’s?

    Same for the Knicks and Nets!

  121. JPG’s sister, tu si Calabrese? When you get the recipe please publish it here. March 19th. is my birthday, my brother’s birthday and my anniversary!

    We will of course have the zeppole di San Giuseppe.

  122. Wicky©This team is too soft...bring back the Rupp! on

    Oh man, not the dan boyle thing…ten foot pole dan boyle

    clowe and murray from SJ

  123. Thanx to 8 years in school and some time overseas, I can read it, write it and eat it

  124. Man of many names, I am “killing” the language? And no I do not write in Italian either exclusively or otherwise. Just a touch.

    Are you Italian yourself, perhaps you might share some recipes as well?

  125. Actually, I am not Italian, nor can I cook well. That being said, if you give me a second, I can conjure up a few burps and leave it to you to figure out the ingredients.

  126. Rob in Beantown on

    I think the Islanders could do well in Brooklyn, just like the Nets. It’s the only chance the franchise has of staying relevant

  127. jpg's sister on

    Fat Guy, I’m envious eat, read and write italian wonder if you could have read my other Italian Grandfma from the old country’s words. She made up half Italian/ half English. jpg and I were towards the end of the grandkids cool to know grandparents from old country

  128. jpg's sister on

    I would share recipes, but some of Grandma’s no one can translate since half Italian/half English. I might have a couple though. Nana had kept recipes from Great Grandparents in a paper bag. We think her son in law accidentally threw them away. They’re gone.

  129. Sign Zuc, bring up Kreider. New 3rd line of Zuc/Miller/Kreider. Boyle,Halpern,Pyatt,Powe can fight it out for 4th line/PK duties. Actually play the 3rd line and don’t bench them every time one of them makes a mistake.

  130. czechthemout!!! on

    I found the Brooks article disturbing. I always wondered why despite him clearly playing well in so many playoff games, Torts never seemed to give Kreider any props.

  131. Stranger Nation on

    Let’s have Brooks asks Torts questions after the next loss instead of Sam the stooge – be sure to create more excitement than on the ice.

  132. Why all the continued Torts bashing?

    Is it possible that when a coach is give a mixed bag of ingredients every year and it takes time to mesh the disparate parts things don’t always work out?

    Is it possible that when you have a Vezina year goalie and playing a necessary “give up your body” style that the coach plays the cards he has been dealt? ”

    Is it possible that any success last year was a fairy dust season because the coach got the most out of his players with less than Cup talent?

    I ask for the umpteenth time, who do you want to coach this gang of misfits and please explain what that coach would do to make chicken salad out of chickens**t?

    Finally, why not criticize Mr.Average the architect of this dreck?

  133. My criticism of Torts is that he’s playing the wrong style for the players he has, and he has to realize he doesn’t have AA or Dubi or Feds or Prust. He’s got fringe NHLers playing on the bottom two lines and the couple of guys he DID have with speed he sent down because he was “afraid” to live with his mistakes, which is interesting for a guy who said “safe is death”. The problem is, that unless he lets them play and not get on EVERY mistake they make, they will continue to play uptight. Watch Richards with the puck. He’s so tight that the puck likes like the pink rubber ball I used to play hockey with as a kid. He needs to just tell the team to relax and go out and play hard, without the specter of getting benched after one mistake.

  134. BTW, for those of you unfamiliar with the MSG school of mismanagement style of communicating with the media.

    Dolan Very Junior, does not permit his lackeys to speak to the media without a script. The organization is replete with shills from Rosen to Fischler with Wiggy, Giannone, the incoherent Deb Kaufman Placey and others.

    Ask this writer or any other how much access they are afforded by MSG with either Sather or the hoops GM. And when they do receive an audience do they really levy any well deserved criticisms?

    Ask what happens if writers are too critical. I had a respected NY writer tell me in no uncertain terms that his boss at the paper was told to TELL him to lay off the criticism of the MSG empire! Why?

    Advertising, personal Dolan connections? What other sport’s franchise conducts business with the media in this fashion?

  135. Cross Check Charlie on

    “What other sport’s franchise conducts business with the media in this fashion?”

    Just about all of them.

  136. SteveKNJ, the best coaches and most successful do not ask players to do what they can not do.

    Torts is being criticized for playing Gaborik on his off wing,but do we fans know why or the discussions about why that were obviously held before the season?

    A coach ,mgr. etc. is only as good as his talent,this roster is not talented and fans have been persuaded that last year’s success was the norm.

    Why? They have lost players that committed to last seasons style,now the coach is being asked to coach a hybrid style which has not produced the magic.

    Magic is an illusion, no coach is a magician!

  137. Cross Check, elaborate please? NFL, NBA, MLB or other NHL franchises?

    Try keeping the Toronto or
    Montreal media away from the door!

  138. If we want to criticize the management, from the top down…..

    Dolan, Sather, Schoenfeld, Messier, Gorton — then Tortorella. I imagine there are more people upset with the teams performance than Tortorella.

  139. I don’t know about you – I can probably take Dolan, Sather and Gorton, but I am NOT gonna be the one to criticize Schoenfeld or Messier. I like my teeth right where they are – in my pie hole.

  140. Can you imagine what Schoenfeld was thinking when Hamrlik was lumbering down the ice in those conditioning sessions?

    He had to be muttering something about Sather under his breath.

  141. LW3H, wasn’t Botta dumped from the Islander team for criticizing too much?

    In any case you’re talking about a franchise that apparently doesn’t frown on legitimate criticism.

    Suppose we ask Carp when last he took Sather over the coals?

  142. bull dog line on

    Kreider nonsense? is that what you said ilb?
    the only nonsense involving Kreider this season is the way he has been handled. now that is nonsense.

  143. Cristobalite on

    So it seems from Brooksie’s article today that Rangers management is in full ‘ruin Chris Kreider so he can be dealt and have a good career elsewhere mode’. I’m thinking that if this happens to yet another of our prospects I will have to begin looking elsewhere for a team to root for.

  144. Yes, I said nonsense, bull dog. Nonsense to believe that he isn’t here while he is fully ready to play in NHL. Nonsense to believe that they’re mishandling him and suppressing his development. He’ll be here the moment he’s ready. He looked like he didn’t know which way to turn, he was indecisive and out of position. Staying in AHL didn’t hurt Callahan, MDZ, McD, and Hagelin. Why all of a sudden you think they decided he should be in AHL while fully ready to play? Because of his 5 goals last year? What happened to him wasn’t unexpected.

  145. This seems like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. That top line does not have chemistry, and meanwhile, Kreider is just languishing in Hartford. Only in Tortorella’s mind is Gaborik a top line LW.

    Let’s just cut to the chase: Hags is our best LW, and our 2nd best guy is riding the bus in lovely Hartford, Ct.

  146. Nash, fwiw, has played both L and R wing during his career, no? Kreider will be the first call up the moment he is ready. Could well be tomorrow. And I doubt that Gernander is the only person who’s monitoring his development.

  147. Yeah, I work for MSG, bull dog. When I eat Chinese food. Which young player’s development have they mishandled last 3 years? I thought that MDZ could spend more time down there, in fact. Just because the fans are desperate doesn’t mean should rush the process.

  148. bull dog line on

    well imo, the are mishandling Kreider, so theres one! MDZ spent a full year in New York, before he fell apart in his 2nd season and was sent down. Cally played major junior, it made sense for him to spend time in the AHL. McD and Hagelin, like Kreider, were college players. they did not stay in the AHL long. maybe 30 games each.the Rangers are in desperate need of scoring, yet Torts is being stubborn about the “process”.

  149. After home opener, 6-3 loss to Pitt, Richie Rich says, in interview: “This has to be corrected quickly.”

  150. Im not commenting about whether I think this kid should be on the roster. But just out of curiosity, what would happen if he came up at this point in time and for the rest of the season and he/they didn’t play any better? Can you really argue that maybe there would be unneeded and undeserved pressure on him from media and fans?

    That’s not to say that I agree with his demotion in the first place. The one part of Brooks’ article I’ll agree with from today was that Miller has been far from perfect but he’s staying up with the big club. Last I checked what was good for the goose was good for the gander as well.

  151. Stranger Nation on

    In a team starved for offensive output it is critical to leave your best prospect in minors and whatever you do, DO NOT COACH OFFENSE!

  152. bull dog line on

    I did not like the Miller, Kreider comparison by Brooks. very different players.

  153. Carp, you insist on joining the anvil head chorus?

    ilb2001, MSG definitely gives me a headache, all varieties.

    To the point do you really believe that Krieder uses his big body effectively?

    He seems to be more a Nash type which will be great if he scores like Nash but there does not seem to be much power in this power forward. When he throws a check he looks like he wants to apologize.

    In any case how much difference would he make this year in your opinion? Or do you believe the organization should simply go with our youth/draft picks and look to the future?

    Who else from the Whale iyo is NHL caliber right now?

    Lastly some here believe Krieder should be given more ice time on the second line,whom does he replace?

  154. Miller makes boatloads more mistakes than Kreider ever did, but he makes them aggressively, enthusiastically and doesn’t play like a figure skater. Kreider looked lost, especially in transition, soft in the corners, always tentative and didn’t bang, squeeze center ice, utilize his nasty speed, or backcheck as necessary. However, he has a shot if the puck lands on his stick. Pyatt, Haley, Powe, etc, all with a fifth of his talent, do those mandatory things. Unless we have injuries or admit to being out of it, he should learn those things in Hartford, not Yankee Stadium. IMHO

  155. Doodie Machetto on

    Carp, no but seriously, pregame meetup? Mrs. Machetto is lovely, I assure you.

  156. Ping, always enjoyed Dim Sum until I realized that it Latin it means ‘I am stupid.’

  157. bull dog line on

    so they need more guys like Pyatt, Halpern, and Powe? or Kreider should become a defensive specialist? players are not cookie cutters. Krediers game is his speed and shot, not mucking in the corners. are they asking Powe to center the number 1 line? of course not, thats not his game.

  158. Doodie, I’m sure Carp’s not ignoring you. He must be swamped today with other duties and hasn’t had time to go through the chat string today. Manny could probably give you the area where he found Carp recently.

  159. Observation,what actually is Miller’s strength?

    Size no,scoring no history,top two line center? post in front of the net?

    Feisty,digger,competitive yes. Then again there are probably more of those than truly talented types in the NHL.

    Early returns, another bottom six JAG?

    Unless he’s another Bobby Clarke!

  160. bull dog line on

    I’m no amateur ilb, I have been watching hockey for 40 years. that makes me an expert!

  161. Doodie Machetto on

    Coos, I know where to find Carp when he’s available (aka, the press box). I’m just trying to find out if he will actually be available or not.

    But if he were ignoring me, I wouldn’t blame him. I am annoying and I smell bad. I also smell badly, so I don’t realize how bad I smell. I’m told it’s quite offensive.

  162. nnsense, I was simply asking you if you were kidding about me not ripping Sather. Because if you think that way, then you never knew me before very recently, or you can’t read. And I’m pretty sure you can read.

  163. Doodie Machetto on

    Kreider being in CT has nothing to do with Richards and Gaborik being terrible. If both guys were scoring on their pace from last year, we wouldn’t be so worried about the team’s offense.

  164. also, sorry everybody for my extended absence here … my other job had me in various parts of New York State since Friday.

    I’m back now.

    Doodie, Section 110 for the start of warmups at 6:30? I can only stop by for a minute or two.

  165. Dog, Krieder should use his size period. He absolutely must muck in the corners does Lucic,does Hartnell,does Clarkson?

    No one suggests gooning but unless and until he scores like Nash he must do the other things ,he does have two other people on his line.

    And btw the best example of what Krieder MUST do is Callahan,who pound for pound is the team’s best forward,blocking shots,driving to the net, standing and being pounded in front of the net,mucking and checking.

    That’s what Krieder must do!

  166. Doodie Machetto on

    And don’t even get me started on the defense’s performance compared to last year. And it all starts with #30 playing more like #80 on some nights.

  167. Doodie Machetto on

    Carp, if you’re busy, which it seems that you are, don’t sweat it. Some other time.

  168. it’s no trouble, Doodie. Just say what time. I’m right across the way from that section in the pressroom, so not a problem for me to step out for a few.

  169. Carp, you are half right as I am a relative newcomer to Lohud.

    So for my edification and enlightenment please refer me to a column or blog in the last 5 years where you ripped Sather a new one.

    I am asking sincerely since my blogging “career” vis a vis hockey” has in the past been spent on the NYT,DN,Post and Star Ledger.

    I was the quintessential McPeek fan,he of the Cosell school of hockey journalism.

    In the future use the proper handle. Thank you.

  170. bull dog line on

    Kreider is never going to play the game like Clarkson, lucic,or Hartnell. so if your waiting for that, you are going to have a long wait.

  171. He doesn’t have to play like Lucic or Hartnell, but he sure can play it more physically than Gaborik or Richards …

  172. bull dog line on

    by the way, my guess as to why Kreider is not up for this game is that it would be 3 games in 3 nights for him. I expect he will be called up for tomorrows game.

  173. and in fact, Kreider should actually be a player along the lines of Nash, who uses his body. I don’t think Kreider has that skill level to put up Nash-like numbers, but he has the size and strength and speed to be a player of that type.

  174. Doodie Machetto on

    Kreider shouldn’t play like those guys, but he does need to play up to his size a bit more.

  175. In this league, you MUST transition, backcheck and squeeze center ice. I don’t care if you’re Sid Crosby.

  176. bull dog line on

    well I can play more physical than those two, and I was a perimeter player. I don’t understand why he has to play physical. many guys have gone through entire seasons without being physical, and still managed to score 20, 30, or 40 goals. let the kid play his game, and if his game is not good enough, then move on.

  177. Doodie Machetto on

    I’m trying to think of a good comparison for him and having some trouble. His combination of size and speed is very rare. The best example I could come up with is Patrick Marleau. If he could score points like Marleau, then by all means, play Marleau’s game. But he’s gotta get some grit to avoid being Marleau in the playoffs.

  178. I think the problem with Kreider is that the Ranger’s organization hyped him up too much. I don’t know how many times I heard MSG’s talking heads playing up Kreider’s skills, specifically saying how his skills were going to totally translate to the NHL game. Now he gets here for his first regular season and apparently he can’t check, he can’t back check, he can’t play defense, and is totally lost on the ice. How is it possible that our number one prospect, the guy whose size and speed was hyped so much by the organization, can’t even play in the NHL over the likes of Darroll Powe and Stu Bickel? This seems to be an organizational problem.

  179. bull dog line on

    I’m good with playing like Nash. I think thats fair Carp. but asking him to go into the corners and muck it up is a waste of talent.

  180. We’re not talking about him playing like a gorilla! Simple damn things like you should learn in high school.

  181. Carop, I will google and goggle your efforts and with your permission note the article wherin you rip the Boob from Banff!

    Cos Coos true true, incuding political,movies, books,music,history and dare I say religion blogs in almost every major paper in the country and many writers.

    Whenever you’re of a mind to I’ll give you an off site address where we may ponder and mull.

    This is the result of 25 years of retirement and a curious humorous mind!

  182. Magilla Gorilla recently observed carrying hockey bag and sticks into MSG players entrance on E 33 rd Street.

  183. Stranger Nation on

    Nash quote from today moving to line with Gabby and Bucky: “But when the three of us play together we have to make sure we are responsible, play good defense, and *get our offense from that*.”

    Torts has got them singing the corporate mantra. I think me hears the Godfather theme in the background, cue music…

  184. Why would you make a move in this” season that shouldn’t have been”? Ride out the storm and bring Kreider and your team together NEXT year.

    Whoever wins it all this year is going to have a huge asterisk by their name anyways….

Leave A Reply

Protected with IP Blacklist CloudIP Blacklist Cloud