Lightnings at Rangers tonight


Pre-game notes courtesy of the NYR:

Thursday, Feb. 28, 7:00 p.m.
Madison Square Garden – New York, NY
Rangers: 8-8-2 (18 pts)
Lightning: 9-9-1 (19 pts)

The Rangers will face-off against the Tampa Bay Lightning at Madison Square Garden (7:00 p.m. — TV: MSG Network; Radio: ESPN 98.7), in their third meeting this month. The Blueshirts currently rank fourth in the Atlantic Division standings, and rank 11th in the Eastern Conference, with a record of 8-8-2 (18 pts). The Rangers enter the contest having been defeated by the Winnipeg Jets, 4-3, on Tuesday at Madison Square Garden, to begin a four-game homestand. The Blueshirts have recorded at least a point in four of their last six home games (3-2-1). The Lightning enter the contest with a 9-9-1 (19 pts) record to rank eighth in the Eastern Conference, and have lost three of their last four games. Following tonight’s contest, the Rangers will face-off against the Buffalo Sabres on Sunday, Mar. 3, at Madison Square Garden (7:30 p.m.), as they continue their four-game homestand.

•       All-Time:  41-29-5-7 overall (23-13-2-4 at home; 18-16-3-3 on the road)
•       2013: Tonight  is the third and final meeting this season, and the second meeting at Madison Square Garden. The Rangers are 2-0-0 overall (1-0-0 at home; 1-0-0 on the road), following a 5-1 win at MSG on Feb. 10. The Rangers have out-scored the Lightning, 8-3, in the series, including a 4-1 advantage in the third period. Carl Hagelin leads all skaters with three goals and five points in two games, while Dan Girardi and Marc Staal are tied for the scoring lead among defensemen with two assists apiece. Henrik Lundqvist is 1-0-0 with a 1.00 GAA and .950 Sv%, and Martin Biron is 1-0-0 with a 2.00 GAA and .938 Sv%.
•       Last Season: New York was 2-0-2 overall (1-0-1 mark at home; 1-0-1 mark on the road). Three of their four meetings were decided in extra time, including one contest that required the shootout. The team who tallied the game’s first goal was winless in the series, posting a combined record of 0-1-3. The Rangers’ power play was 3-13 (23.1%) in the season series, while their penalty kill was 10-11 (90.9%) with one shorthanded goal. Derek Stepan registered a series-leading, six points, including a team-high, four assists in four games. Ryan Callahan led all skaters with two power play goals, while Ryan McDonagh and Michael Del Zotto tied for the series lead among defensemen with three assists/points apiece.
•       Seven of the last nine meetings between the Rangers and Lightning have been decided by one goal, including five that required extra time and two that went into the shootout
•       The Rangers have registered a point in 15 of their last 18 games against the Lightning (11-3-4 over the span), dating back to a 2-1 win at Tampa Bay on Oct. 4, 2008
•       Henrik Lundqvist has started 28 of the Rangers’ last 30 contests against Tampa Bay, posting a record of 15-7-6 with a 2.12 GAA, .924 Sv% and two shutouts over the span
•       New York is tied for ninth in the NHL with a 6-4-1 (13 pts) record at home; Tampa Bay is tied for 23rd in the NHL with a 3-5-0 (6 pts) mark on the road
•       The Rangers are 3-1-0 vs. the Southeast Division this season; the Lightning are 1-6-0 vs. the Atlantic Division this season
•       New York lists four former Lightning on their roster: Steve Eminger (2008-09); Matt Gilroy (2011-12); Jeff Halpern (2007-08 – 2009-10); Brad Richards (2000-01 – 2007-08)
•       Tampa Bay lists one former Ranger on their roster: Adam Hall (2006-07)
•       Rangers’ Head Coach John Tortorella served as Lightning Head Coach from 2000-01 to 2007-08, posting a record of 239-222-36-38 in 535 games while guiding Tampa Bay to four consecutive Stanley Cup Playoff appearances, two Southeast Division Championships (2002-03, 2003-04) and the franchise’s only Stanley Cup Championship in 2003-04; Rangers’ Assistant Coach Mike Sullivan served as an assistant coach with the Lightning in 2007-08 and 2008-09

•       Henrik Lundqvist — 28 GP, 15-7-6, 2.12 GAA, 2 SO
•       Martin Biron — 21 GP, 12-7-2-0, 2.64 GAA
•       Marian Gaborik — 17 GP, 8-8-16
•       Brad Richards — 9 GP, 3-8-11
•       Derek Stepan — 10 GP, 5-5-10
•       Marc Staal — 19 GP, 3-6-9

•       Power Play: The Rangers did not tally a goal in two power play attempts (4:00) on Tuesday vs. Winnipeg. New York is tied for 29th overall (7-63, 11.1%) and 25th at home (5-37, 13.5%). The Rangers are 1-6 (7:05) in five-on-three situations (last – 2/14 vs. NYI), and 0-0 (0:00) when four-on-three. Shorthanded goals allowed (2): 2/19 vs. MTL (Diaz, EN); 2/21 at OTT (Silfverberg).
•       Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts held the Jets scoreless in three attempts (6:00) on Tuesday at MSG. New York ranks 10th overall (56-67, 83.6%) and is tied for 10th at home (36-42, 85.7%). The Rangers are 3-3 (4:49) in three-on-five situations (last – 2/23 at MTL), and 2-2 (1:57) when three-on-four (last – 1/31 vs. PIT). Shorthanded goals for (1): 1/20 vs. PIT (Nash).
•       Four-on-Four: New York did not skate in a four-on-four situation on Tuesday vs. Winnipeg, and are now minus-1 in 11 four-on-four situations (23:35) this season. Four-on-four goals for (1): 1/23 vs. BOS (Gaborik). Four-on-four goals allowed (2): 1/20 vs. PIT (Letang); 1/23 vs. BOS (Horton).

The Rangers have posted a record of 18-4-2 in their last 24 games against Southeast Division opponents, including a 3-1-0 mark against the Southeast Division this season. The Blueshirts have out-scored their Southeast Division opponents, 80-50, over the span.

Marian Gaborik has been among the league’s goal scoring leaders since joining the Rangers in 2009-10. Last season, Gaborik became the fifth player in Rangers history to record 100 goals in his first three seasons with the club, and became the third Ranger in franchise history to register multiple 40-goal seasons with the team. Entering this season, his 105 goals from 2009-10 to 2011-12 ranked seventh in the NHL, while his .48 goals per game average ranked third (behind Steven Stamkos and Alex Ovechkin) over that time period. Including games played this season, Gaborik currently ranks sixth in the league with 112 goals scored and is tied for third with .47 goals per game since the beginning of the 2009-10 season.

The Rangers rank third in the NHL in hits (557) this season. Brian Boyle leads the Rangers and ranks seventh in the NHL with 66 hits, while Rangers’ captain Ryan Callahan ranks second on the team and is tied for eighth in the league with 64 hits. Marc Staal leads all Rangers defensemen and is tied for 19th among NHL blueliners with 41 hits.

Christian Thomas was credited with three hits in 12:46 of ice time while making his NHL debut on Saturday at Montreal. Thomas became the 11th player to make their regular season Rangers debut this season, along with Jeff Halpern, Rick Nash, Taylor Pyatt, Chris Kreider, Brandon Segal, Arron Asham, Benn Ferriero, Darroll Powe, J.T. Miller and Brandon Mashinter.

•       The Rangers’ penalty kill is 24-26 (92.3%) in the last nine games
•       New York has registered a point in six of seven games when scoring the first goal this season (5-1-1), and are 3-7-1 when allowing the game’s first goal
•       The Blueshirts have posted a 5-0-1 mark when leading after the first period, and are 5-0-0 when leading after the second period
•       Henrik Lundqvist — has held opponents to two goals or less in eight of his last 12 games (6-5-1, 2.07 GAA, .924 Sv% over the span)
•       Marc Staal — seven assists in the last 11 games
•       Dan Girardi — five points (one goal, four assists) in the last eight games
•       Anton Stralman — three points (two goals, one assist) in the last three home games
•       Ryan Callahan — two goals in the last three games

•       Ryan Callahan — 6 assists from 100th NHL career
•       Michael Del Zotto — 4 points from 100th NHL career
•       Steve Eminger — 3 points from 100th NHL career
•       Brad Richards — 6 points from 800th NHL career
•       Marc Staal — 4 points from 100th NHL career
•       Anton Stralman — 4 points from 100th NHL career
•       Michael Sauer (concussion, 12/5/11) — 18
•       Rick Nash (injured, 2/19) — 4
•       Arron Asham (injured, 2/19) — 3
•       Michael Del Zotto (injured, 2/21) — 2
•       Ryan McDonagh (injured, 2/23) — 1
Total Man-Games Lost: 42

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  1. I see another real bad loss tonight. Sorry. Then complete panic, good thing is my predictions usually suck

  2. Don’t you guys dare speak about “Mr. 3-0-5″ that way! He’s the best thing this city’s ever produced! He’s the symbol of hope for this glorious beacon of a city at the southern tip of FL … an icon … the sole reason many Cubans risk their lives in the open ocean … a true American hero who represents the wholesome Aericsn values of drinking crap beer and wearing sunglasses indoors.

  3. Anybody see the awesome goal Simmonds scored last night? In front of the net while getting checked by multiple guys and fighting to throw the puck into the net. That guy can flat out Play.

  4. Rangers gong Lighting in a bottle tonight and sweep the Bolts at home.

    A new win streak has to start sometime! No better time than against the southeast!!!

  5. iDoodie Machetto on

    Tampa will score 9 tonight, one for each year since Richards and Torts won the Cup there.

    They will score nine goals but win by ten.

    Game over, season over.

  6. Cross Check Charlie on

    If Nash and McDonagh are back in the lineup then there’s no excuses. They need a win.

  7. Did you see last night’s post? LMGAO….Eddie and coos were at their best, cracking me up. I was actually up at 4 am and almost posted, but then decided not to. I’d never go back to bed, lol…Read some of the stuff, pure gold.

  8. We may need a little change, the way we’ve done past years…Who knows, maybe that’ll help…Who’s on board?

  9. stranger nation on

    • Michael Sauer (concussion, 12/5/11) — 18
    • Rick Nash (injured, 2/19) — 4
    • Arron Asham (injured, 2/19) — 3
    • Michael Del Zotto (injured, 2/21) — 2
    • Ryan McDonagh (injured, 2/23) — 1

    One of these guys playing tonite – need some D against Stamkos, Vinny, and St. Louieeee

    How is Sauer?

  10. Cross Check Charlie on

    “We may need a little change”

    I’ve got about 27 cents in my pocket. Is that enough?

  11. stranger nation on

    Tortorella said last week Stepan and Hagelin had attended essentially every optional morning skate and optional practice, and suggested *the team could benefit from spending more time on the ice.* Indeed, Tuesday’s optional morning skate was packed while every healthy-bodied player on the roster participated in yesterday’s optional.

    You listening Richards? Get on the ice and find your game and stop sitting at your Penthouse counting your money

  12. Nice to see Sather looking to reach out to Zuccarello.

    He would be a welcomed addition although Sather hates giving Europeans 1 way contracts. I’d like to see them sign him anyway since there are plenty of teams who would take his contract for a 7th round pick

  13. So we’re getting O’Reilly or the ^Hobbit Wizard^

    Odd that just last night NYR and I were advocating for this team to go get ^Hobbit Wizard^ and just today they listen to our wishes…

  14. just what we need right now is MORE guys that can get pushed off the puck by an angry glance…I know, I know, there’s no choice with all the injuries and lack of production/experience. It’s worth a shot, even if only to steal a point in the next free throw shooting contest

  15. Stanger Nation on

    Manny – you were right on it – just 12 hours after Brooks…

    23 hours ago
    Larry Brooks @NYP_Brooksie
    Sather tells Post he will reach out to Zuccarello once his KHL season ends. Currently in Round 1 of playoffs.

  16. Amateur Hour again tonight. 4-1 Lightning, empty netter.

    BTW, Miller’s career is starting to resemble Stepan’s it seems. Drafted pretty high due to his potential upside, good two way player with some offensive game, not exactly the most explosive player either but he gets the job done. Hopes he can continue to grow into a player like Stepan (who is still improving).

  17. Stanger Nation on

    McD is as tough as nails – concerned with MDZ with hip issue – those can be lingering – just ask A-Roid

  18. Morning all,

    Fat Guy – disagree with you on Zuke. Matter of fact, he’s great at puck possession – adept at keeping it on his stick in tight quarters.

    Plus, he’s strong on the power play and in the shootout – as you mentioned.
    Could help the team steal the points necessary to get into the play-ons.

  19. Also, Ben is right. ^Hobbit Wizard^ is very strong on the board, carries a humungous stick (yup) and does not get moved off the puck very easily.

    Also, he would be the best passer on the team.

  20. Good morning, Sally!

    Hey, does anybody talk to our lost souls, Linda, BANJ and others?

    Can you please ask them to come back?

  21. Ben, Manny – If Zuc helps us play board hockey, even 3/4 as well as Hags, I’ll gladly admit that I have no idea what I’m talking about, which is probably true anyway…but I think we’ll see him get knocked off the puck more often than not…there is a reason he was poop-shooted to the KHL.

  22. BANJ might just be back in a previous post…….

    ^Hobbit Wizard^ will help us win that stupid BCATHGE because he actually has skill and can handle the puck. This season, 2 points, might be the difference between 8th and 9th for us. He’s very good at the wall. I guess he’s similar to Hagelin but without the speed factor. But ^Hobbit Wizard^ certainly has more skill with the humungous stick (I think ^Hobbit Wizard^ used the largest stick allowable in the NHL)

    Maybe we will get O’Reilly, his dad and ^Hobbit Wizard^

  23. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Who were the two or three losers posting deep into the night?

    Oh never mind I was one of them…. Those other 2 are REAL losers…

  24. Incredible, looking at another in a long line of smurfs as a savior!

    If he was better than he showed then the organization would have kept him.

    If he wasn’t then another Sather mistake which he’s trying to CHA to cover his butt by placating fans and media that his actually doing something.

    This team relied on a repeat performance from the super goalie and undersized D to blocks shots repeating last year’s fairy dust season. The addition of Nash was to provide the power forward scorer needed.

    They depreciated the grit they lost or the fact that Richards was a mistake( Sather again) and that Gaby needs to play on a line where others distract and he scores.

    A .500 organization living up to their record no matter who coaches!

  25. MZA was actually playing with Cal O’Reilly (Ryan’s bro) in Magnitogorsk.

    Manny, Larry Brooks had the article yesterday about Zucc…

  26. Gabba gabba we accept you we accept you one of us
    Gabba gabba we accept you we accept you one of us

    Gabba gabba hey
    Gabba gabba hey

  27. The Big Boys, Leetch & Messier have weighed in and I feel better already.


    “It’s not easy to win, this league is very competitive and it’s hard to win every night, but the Rangers have had a lot of good games and they’ve lost some games they probably would like to have back,” Rangers icon Brian Leetch said. “They’re right in the mix and it’s a third of the way through and I look forward to seeing them go forward from here.”


    Said Messier: “We’re confident that once we get ourselves healthy and on track here we can hopefully be one of the teams in the mix at the end.”

  28. I give zucc three games until torts will play him 6 mins a night and bury him after failing in the d zone.

    I myself arent too excited to have him back but at this point we will take anyone if it helps in standings.

    Tampa may be the team we need to beat out gigantic game.

  29. When our remaining injured players return, it will be as if we made a blockbuster trade getting stars in return for minor leaguers. Nice job by Slats!

  30. As opposed to those who think Avery wasn’t given a fair shake by Tort, I believe Zucc wasn’t given a fair opportunity.

  31. Torts has issues with short players…being short himself, hating on other short people is how Torts dealing with his own height insecurities.

  32. Carp, it appears Sather wants to resign Zuccarello, but how badly does Torts want him? I personally think he would help alot on the PP-

  33. morning all. please 2 points tonight anyway it has to be done.

    sauer has not even been on the ice. he is probably shut down for the season.

  34. MDZ should move up to Center like Gresh used to do. He might become our 1st line center. It will also get him off the blue line.

  35. Zucc would help some. for a small guy he is good on the boards and not afraid of contact. has some play making skills for the PP. better then the likes of boyle, asham, powe, etc..

    if he can score some why not? they need scoring not real complicated…

  36. Off the rush, Tired of watching MDZ lose his angle and chase an opposing player who has a step on him behind the net. If you lose your angle cover the slot.

  37. The little ^Hobbit Wizard^ might help on the PP. Plus, he’s a guy from last season. So it might be back to get some of that attitude back.

  38. Zucc could help this team. No question about it. His skills around the net are needed on the power play and in the shoot out.

  39. Boyle needs a couple of weeks with Barb Underhill and Zucc needs to go visit Lance Armstrong or A-Roid and buy up their leftover stocks of HGH now both their careers are over.

  40. eddie eddie eddie on

    Carp – thx for passing on my note to lovely lovely ria maid……lovely lovely ria maid…..

  41. eddie eddie eddie on

    Ilb – why didnt you join the fray last night?…..having to put up with kooz and newbear by myself isnt easy….

  42. eddie eddie eddie on

    lonely days, loney nights….where would i be without my bloggers…..lonely days…lonely nights…..where would I be without my bloggers….

  43. N.CountryNYRFan on

    With how badly B.Rich and Gabby have been sucking lately don’t you think they should have been on the ice for the optional skate?

    Plus they are veteran players, it would be a good example for the younger guys that until we start winning some games we are gonna work as hard as everyone else (should be a given though, right?).

  44. eddie eddie eddie on

    richards is one massive mystery….it makes no sense as to why he has been so bad….i honestly think he has some horrid disease……hope not……

  45. North country …HOPEFULLY they are saving it all for tonight …that would be nice to see,for a change of pace

  46. Jeff in South Dakota on

    Carp, so when I post here – with the time zones and all – its really next week where you are? Then I have grievances to air!

  47. eddie eddie eddie on

    yo dc, what it be, how be thee, on bended knee, bertha dont you come round here no more….

  48. Jeff in South Dakota on


    That and I knew about Richie — Richie loved to use 22s because the bullets are small and they don’t come out the other end like a 45, see, a 45 will blow a barn door out the back of your head and there’s a lot of dry cleaning involved, but a 22 will just rattle around like Pac-Man until you’re dead.

  49. N.CountryNYRFan on

    dc62…HOPEFULLY you’re right. Lately it looks like B.Rich has been skating around with load of carcillo in his pants.

  50. E3- I’m here but tough to join in during working,God I hate that word, hours. Will ketchup gametime if Mrs Stella Artois doesn’t have me in her clutches …

  51. What if the Rangers sign Zucc to trade his rights to Colorado for OReily? There agent is ths same for both players. Boyle could be a part of this deal, giving them a player that is NHL ready, and has some upside for their 3 or 4th line. (Perhaps with a player from the Whale & a pick)

    Colorado could use Zucc’s skills, they need scoring worse than we do.

    There might be a deal there…… somewhere.

  52. N.CountryNYRFan on

    I understand optional Carp, but I think that just maybe it would have an affect on the team if they showed up for an optional skate during a losing streak to say hey we are going to work our tails off to get play better and end this slide. Show a little extra work ethic, it’s not like they have been playing back to backs lately. They shouldn’t be that tired.

  53. O’Reilly was their leading scorer last year. They will want more, but who has the goods and the cap space to sign him?

  54. I’m sure the Rangers want O’Reilly. Who wouldn’t? He’s going to be a pain in the butt. Cost a lot of money. And cost a nice trade.

    But….would you trade Kreider for O’Reilly?

  55. eddie eddie eddie on

    JR – “anyone else here that tool, Milbury, talk a non word yesterday?….he isnt any smart”

  56. I’m assuming the Avalanche are going to ask for Del Zaster and The Kreider at a minimum. That’s the starting point.

  57. eddie eddie eddie on

    JR – “milbury said ‘inacceptable’ hahahaha… every moron knows there is a hyphen between in and acceptable”

  58. eddie eddie eddie on

    Kane, SUGAR……Bass…….women get excited, the money gets divided, its no joke, now I’m broke, its hard as hell to fight it….FREEZE….dont do it

  59. N.CountryNYRFan on

    Anyone see the hit from behind play that got a Maple Leave player a 5 min. major and tossed from the game? That was a love tap compared to what Peckeretty did to McD. Wonder what the suspension will look like on that one?

  60. Hey Carp, just a question. When you are watching a thunderstorm, do you turn to the person next to you and say “Wow, do you see all those Lightnings?” Or Do you say “Wow, do you see all that Lightning?” Lightning is correct. The Leafs however is most incorrect.

  61. Total weaksauce. That’s what happens when two players rush to the boards. Sorry. That was Mike Brown hitting Gorges. Not a penalty.

    There was another disgusting call last night in the Caps/Phlyers game. Refs are really whistle-happy on those boarding calls.

  62. I would 100% pick up Tostitoes. I would say he’s better than Bickel really. He’s really tough and will be looking to prove a point. I wouldn’t compare him to Asham.

  63. N.CountryNYRFan on

    I agree Manny. It’s like the marginal calls get the punishments, then an atrocious hit happens and a injury occurs and the NHL tells us that is was just a hockey play. Totally assen backwards!

  64. eddie eddie eddie on

    JR – “one thing i have never understood is exactly where does the sun go at nightime”

  65. Looking at Colorado’s scoring stats you will notice PA Parenteau and John Mitchell are in their top 4 of scoring so far this year. Both players for the Rangers, doing well in their system maybe Newbury/Thomas might work for them, Boyle & Zucc. That’s alot of talent and 2 young players, and an NHL player that would make their roster right away.

    Crazy conspiracy theory here, but there would be alot of upside there for Colorado if you know you are not going to sign OReilly.

    If Zucc had a full time gig in the NHL he could put up a 20-20 40pt season. Boyle scored 20 goals for not to long ago.

  66. What was the awful call in the Caps/Phlyers game? I think it was the one Ward got called for. I missed the 3rd period but the box score looks like it got a bit out of hand.

  67. There is no way they trade O’Reilly for Boyle and Thomas. Come on guys. The Aves are over a barrel here but teams are lining up to give them anything for O’Reilly.

    Also, they want a scoring Defenseman.

  68. with Nash back, would it make sense to reuinte NASH GABBY and RICHARDS, then follow up with Stepan Hagelin and Cally?
    The worry was being top heavy, but since steps, hags and cally are performing it might create a balanced line up

  69. I can, Ilb. Katie Strang put it in her game preview on ESPN. She says Nash and McBust are seemingly in the lineup tonight and Del Zotto could also join them.

  70. From Strang:

    ” *Guess who’s back: * Finally some relief for a depleted Rangers squad that has seen its lineup ravaged by key injuries. *It appears that both star winger Rick Nash and top-pair defenseman Ryan McDonagh are set to return against Tampa, possibly even Michael Del Zotto, too.* The team has suffered without some of its brightest stars; the Rangers are 0-3-1 in all four games that Nash has missed with an “undisclosed injury” that was believed to be a concussion.”

  71. at least if we lose tonight, we’ll be able to blame rust instead of the usual suspect “the own zone runaround”

  72. Yes, agreed Eddie – and The Wheel is one of my all-time favorites. won’t you try just a little bit harder, couldn’t you try just a little bit more?

  73. Maybe that’s why Thomas got called up for a game. So they could scout him at the NHL level.

    OReilly is 6′, 200 lbs, 58 pts, 22 years old. Who would you give up for him? Kreider?

  74. eddie- I was that close to joining you bozos last night. Got a call from the hospital, was waiting for some info. Decided against it. I figured I’d either have to go in or will be able to go back to bed. I couldn’t do either had I joined you, lol….

  75. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    I think you have to reunite the Hagelin-Stepan-Nash line. I would also split up Richards and Gaborik.

    Powe-Halpern-Asham/Kreider/O’Reilly/^Hobbit Wizard^/Bickel/Ferriero/Mashinter/Thomas/Segal/Newbury

  76. if the rangers can stay healthy after getting back nash, Mcdonoaugh and Delzotto, they will get going and make the playoffs.

  77. I believe I said that above, Sioux. I think Kreider and Gilroy is a bit warmer than anything suggested above. As Wick has suggested, why not include Shane O’Brien in that trade? Especially if they want Del Zaster a/k/a Grandma Hips.

    I don’t know, ilb. I think Kreider is closer to spending the season in Hartford than he is to playing 10 minute a night. I don’t think the organization is very happy with him right now.

  78. ilb I’m not so sure they wouldn’t. They are equal talents. Same in age, same upside for both players.

    OReilly could help this team this year. I’m not sure Kreider is ready to help this year.

    Miller has jumped over Kreider, as a Ranger player. We need another scoring Center with upside.

  79. Kreider is probably exactly where he should be at this point. They saw glimpses of what he can do last year. Now they need to develop him properly. That may require an AHL stint for some time, so be it. I’d woyuld be more than surprised if he is traded.

  80. The thing that concerns me, ilb, is that, aside from his opening day hat trick, The Kreider has not been good at the AHL level this year and he’s been near miserable at the NHL level.

  81. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    He had one decent season on par with Stepan’s last two. O’Really?
    He wants $5M a year. O’Really?
    He’s already holding out. O’Really?
    He has baggage (his father). O’Really?

  82. The Rangers AHL depth is pretty depleted, the Nash trade and the trade with Pitts earlier took away most of the talent… plus with no first round draft pick this year in a deep draft, they better hope that what they have is good enough…
    unless they can trade Gabby for Corey Perry… i’d do that

  83. Gravy he’s had 3 years as a NHL Pro, he’s 22 years old, and the leading scorer for Colorado last year. He’s looking for a bigger contract or just wants out of Colorado. They aren’t going to pay him what he wants. The Rangers have the space. We need scoring and a young center.

    He fits. Have to give up something to get something.

    I’m thinking Sather wants someone this year. Boyle, Krieder, Del Zotto any of them could be tradable, in some sort of package.

  84. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    And if they give up players for O’Really, and then pay him $5M, maybe $4.5M if they’re lucky, then what are you going to pay Stepan next year? $6M?

  85. Yea. So far O’Reilly has really proven that he’s a handful.

    Not saying I would or wouldn’t Ilb. Just saying the Aves have the right to try and get a bundle for this kid.

    Imagine the Seinfeld jokes if we got O’Brien though……..

  86. they cant trade for o riley and pay step hags and mcdonagh and pay o riley especially with cap going down

  87. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    Yes, he led Colorado in scoring. With 55 points. And he sure wants to make it a point that everyone knows.

    Look, he’d have been 3rd on the NYR in scoring last year, so I’m not saying he wouldn’t be useful. But, at what cost? Top prospect and $5M a year for one good season?

  88. I’m not saying he’s a perfect fit either. I’m just saying he’s worth talking about.

    Could he help this team – THIS year. And who would you package to get him???? That’s all.


  89. Well ideally we would trade Boyle, Gilroy, and the rights to Zucc, and a 2nd round pick. But I’m not sure that would get it done….. not saying Sather wouldn’t start there.

  90. Stephan is a RFA though isn’t he? Probably not the type to hold out, since its generally rare in this classy sport.

  91. We don’t even own the rights to ^Hobbit Wizard^ yet and we’re trading him away. ……..

    And I doubt that gets it done.

  92. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    SPM said package.

    I could stand to part with a Boyle, MDZ, and maybe a Thomas/Borque for him and a D-man. But, I don’t think that will get it done, and it gives them even less options on the point.

  93. I’m sure the aves want Grandma Hips (Del Zaster) in any trade with us. If we ask for O’Brien then they want more.

    I think they would ask for Hagelin/Stepan and Del Zaster for O’Reilly and if we add a D-Man coming back then they might want Gilroy/Eminger and/or Pyatt. Something like that.

    The price could be absurd because other teams are interested.

    The meeting with Newport is probably for Zuccarello anyways.

  94. Playing for the Rangers when they SHOULD be knocking on the door for the cup, or playing in Colorado where they won’t even make the playoffs. I could see him signing here for 2-3 years. Play the center in our ever changing lines. If he gets hot he plays. Torts always rolls with the hot line.

    I could see this happening this year. He will be dealt to a team in the East – that’s almost a given.

  95. Step, McD, Hags arn’t going anywhere. Nope. They will be Rangers for a long time, and I don’t see them holding out either. Not to play on Broadway as top team “in the making”!!!

  96. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    Right now, according to capgeek, they would have $11.5M available to fill 7 roster spots. Assuming a cap friendly, $3M for each of the RFA’s (excluding Sauer), they’d have $5.5M for a 6th D, a 4th liner, and 2 spares.

    Then, 2014-15 is a problem because you have the following *U*FAs:
    Hank, Cally, Gaborik, Girardi, Powe, Boyle, Pyatt, Stralman, Biron, Bickel, Asham

  97. I agree Sioux. Which is why I think a deal for O’Reilly is unlikely.

    And as Tiki said, it starts with Del Zaster.

  98. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    No point at all dealing Stepan for O’Really…essentially the same player and Step is more cap friendly this year.

  99. So Del Zotto and Zucc for O’Reilly & Erik Johnson. OK.

    Del Zotto has out scored Johnson last year.

  100. 1:40. Good morning, Bones! I see we have a nice day out there and everyone is up early. I have to put on my suit and act and speak semi- rationally for a bit since I have a meeting with some bankers. (real ones, not bookies) Warning: Will join yiz a bit later. No booing.

  101. lundqvist, girardi and callahan is a must resign. If they could I would resign stralman and Biron, the others can walk.

  102. Cristobol, I have an issue with these singular team names. The players are all Lightnings in my book. Avalanches too. Miami Heats.

    Tostitos=worst player in the NHL. So no. Unless you want a thug. Or more precisely, unless the Rangers want a thug. They’ve kinda been down that road before though.

  103. kreider sent to the whale tells me Nash is playing. It’s good Kreider is going to AHL. Learn how to play the game in all 3 zones.

  104. don’t agree, N.Country. The morning skate is more of a get-out-of-bed-and-stretch exercise. They don’t work on anything in particular. Nobody blinks if anybody skips a morning skate. Some guys hate them. Some guys love them. Got nothing to do with work ethic, and everything to do with personal preference and body maintenance.

    They shouldn’t be that tired? OK. 48 games in 99 days? You don’t think it’s more important that they feel rested on a game night?

  105. Kreider should be playing 20 minutes a game, and hopefully he can find his scoring while playing key minutes for the Whale.

    Carp any thoughts on OReilly?

  106. Maybe Kreider to the Whale will light a little fire under him, while he learns the pro game a bit better. Kid’s going to be a solid NHLer. This has got to be good for him

  107. Stanger Nation on

    Staal, Gabby, and Thomas for O’Reilly, O’Byrne, & O’Brien

    BTW – O’Reilly was their best two way player last year, not only leading them in scoring, but covering the opponents best center – the dude is legit.

    let’s not worry about the other noise around it because you don’t know half the story

  108. Good afternoon all. Tonight is an important one. They know they can beat this team and they NEED to. Hank needs to step up big time tonight. I’m anxious for some exciting hockey after the snoozefests we’ve been seeing lately.

  109. Thoughts such as: Avalanches are going to want a lot for him, it’s going to take a lot of money to sign him, and by the middle of next season you guys might be calling him Dubinsky 2.0?

    I don’t really know a lot about him, but he’s not a superstar and he wants pretty big money. Wouldn’t trade Kreider-plus for him, and it will take more than that.

  110. Guys – I’m trying to unload these five $1000 tickets for tonight’s game…the good news is that you and your buddies will actually be sitting on the Rangers’ bench!!!

    Oh, the bad news is that all five of you may get tapped on the shoulder man the pp

  111. Doodie Machetto on

    How exactly would it be bad news if I were tapped to man the PP? No Brad Richards=huge improvement.

  112. Doodie Machetto on

    Carp, a lot of people are calling O’Reilly the next perennial Selke candidate. Which is nice and all, but who can we give up to get him other than guys Colorado wouldn’t want.

  113. the bottom line is O’reilly is holding out, wants to be paid like he is a very good player. If I was sather I would stay away. If the rumors are true about bringing Zuccarella back, hopefully that means sather isn’t interesated anymore in O’reilly.

  114. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    I think it’s very telling that a guy most people don’t know about is holding out for $5M a year after one good season.

  115. I’d love to see in the box score tomorrow that our pp goal was credited to “Fat Nasty Doodie”

  116. Stanger Nation on

    If we got O’Reilly, we would address the shortcoming in the middle of the lineup for the next 5 years.

    especially if we Fredo King richard

  117. So the Rangers get what for Zucc’s rights a pick in this years draft from Colorado?

    Or do you see Sather playing him when he’s done in Russia this year?

  118. Doodie Machetto on

    I think O’Reilly is just pissed off that Landeskog got the C instead of him, coupled with the fact that he believes he is worth than Matt Duchene, who got 3.5.

  119. Leading Avalanche in scoring last year is similar to saying being the best defensive player on the Islanders.

  120. Doodie Machetto on

    Stranger, I agree that adding O’Reilly is a good thing, but what could you send the other way?

  121. Stanger Nation on

    For O’Reilly, need to deal from strength with is our D and of the top 4, I would give up Staal first

    salaries are a wash assuming O’Reilly gets near his asking price ~4.5M

  122. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    I believe that even if O’Reilly played twice as many games as Duchesne has this year, he would still not have as many points.

  123. I agree, if your going to trade one of your 4 D-men, if I was the GM, it would be staal, not Delzotto.

  124. Kreider needs to play more minutes. Give him 10-20 games to get him going. He will always be available for the playoffs if needed.

    He will be a legit NHL’r for a long time. Not giving up on a rookie, with a huge upside.

  125. Stanger Nation on

    ‘The Kreider’ is not just kreider, hopefully not the crier on his way up HWY 84

    Playing with noberries and haley will sharpen his game up right away

  126. I’d give up Staal too. His defense is nothing spectacular, and he hasn’t improved his offense much. Del Zotto has a reasonable price tag and more upside IMO.

  127. Never know O’Reilly might take a 1 year deal just to get out of there. Might not take the big contract, or take a 1 year deal now, and resign next year. No Risk in a deal like that.

  128. Just glad to see Nash is back!!!

    Time to get the bus moving in the right direction. Start with our 1 game win streak tonight!!!!

  129. of course send Kreider down you would not him to eat away minutes from the likes of; boyle, powe, asham, and other stone hands……

    boyle and halpern are on pace for about 5 points each for the season, why disrupt the success offensively this team is having….

    torts loves 4th liners that is the bottom line… well they have plenty of them; pyatt, boyle, asham, powe, halpern.. that is 5 4th liners right there… Pyatt may be a 3rd liner but let me have my fun….

  130. Eddie x3

    RE: Newbear (novyi medved’)

    I don’t give two sickles and a hammer about him/her…you cool with me I am cool wih you ;)

    You feel my drift, comrade?

  131. Stanger Nation on

    Gravy – how does that math work out re O’Reilly and Ducshesne? O’reilly had better production last season on a pt/game basis while also their best penalty killer and covering the opponents top center.

    Doo-shane: 28pts in 58 games: ~.5pts/g

    O’Reilly: 55pts in 81 games: ~.66pts/g

  132. Good one, Carp. O’Reilly = Dubinsky 2.0 without that whole messy “stand up for your teammates” thing.

    Also, O’Reilly will demand the “C” from Callahan.

  133. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    This year, Stranger. Duchesne 17 points in 17 games. Point being, I don’t see how he’s more valuable than Duchesne. He’s put up two very good seasons, but was injured last year.

  134. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    O’Reilly demands ‘C’ from Callahan, Callahan gives him part of shirt off his back, jersey now reads “allahan”.

  135. No such setting on PVR. I dont have a Nomad. And it’s not a power surge, because i have 4 other Directv DVRs in the same room connected to DVD recorders. None of the DVD recorders go out (attached to the same power strips).

  136. Just so you guys know, I said earlier that Kreider was _likely_ going to be headed to Hartford. I think that is equal to *Rod* breaking a huge story.

    Go me.

  137. nash is playing tonight, not official but count on it else they would not have sent kreider down.

    i assume the great asham is in the lineup also else they have to use bikell the doofus at forward.

    mashinter and kreider in ahl and they played last game. nash is 1 forward……

  138. Stanger Nation on

    Dubinsky 2.0 – O’Reilly put up more pts at age 22 than Dubi ever did

    if ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise

  139. that fella Tortorella likes to sign acapella, getting high on Citronella with some chick named Cinderella, then tripped on her umbrella and tore a patella…the hospital gave him salmonella, or was it rubella

  140. Stanger Nation on

    Gravy – your point is the Rangers should not pay him more than the Avs are paying Duschene?

    dooschene is irrelevant to this situation as he is already signed and playing, correct?

  141. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    stuart, like it or not, Kreider has 2 points and 5 shots in 11 games, averaging over 10:00 TOI.

    If he was a C, you could argue playing him over Boyle. If the team showed more jam, you could argue him playing over Asham or Bickel.

  142. the whale will be in binghamton friday 3/8 for their bi yearly matchup against the bsens. it would be nice to see ‘the kreider’ get some significant ice time and not 2 minutes and a tukas full of splinters.

  143. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    My comment on Duchene was in response to Doodie’s that O’Reilly wants to be paid more than him.

  144. Fat Guy

    I think it was rubella that messed up Tortorella, who once was mistaken for Othello for his short fuze-allo, he ate a porabello to cute his bad patella.

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