Canadiens at Rangers tonight


Pre-game notes courtesy of the NYR:


Tuesday, Feb. 19, 7:00 p.m.
Madison Square Garden – New York, NY

Rangers: 8-5-1 (17 pts)
Canadiens: 9-4-1 (19 pts)

The Rangers will conclude their three-game homestand when they face-off against the Montreal Canadiens at Madison Square Garden (7:00 p.m. — TV: MSG Network; Radio: ESPN 98.7), in an Original Six matchup. The Blueshirts currently rank third in the Atlantic Division standings, and rank seventh in the Eastern Conference, with a record of 8-5-1 (17 pts). The Rangers enter the contest having defeated the Washington Capitals, 2-1, on Sunday at Madison Square Garden, to extend their point streak to five games (4-0-1). The Blueshirts have now registered at least one point in nine of their last 12 contests (8-3-1) after dropping the first two games of the season. The Canadiens entered their contest last night against Carolina with a 9-4-1 (19 pts) record to rank fifth in the Eastern Conference, and have won their last three games. Following the contest, the Rangers will face-off against the Ottawa Senators on Thursday, Feb. 21, at Scotiabank Place (7:30 p.m.), in the first of two straight road games.


  • All-Time: 191-320-94-3 overall (127-122-54-1 at home; 64-198-40-2 on the road)
  • 2013: Tomorrow is the first of three meetings this season, and the only meeting at Madison Square Garden
  • Last Season: New York was 2-2-0 overall (2-0-0 at home; 0-2-0 on the road). The Rangers out-scored the Canadiens, 5-2, in the first period. New York’s power play was 3-17 (17.6%) in the series. Derek Stepan led the team with five assists/points in the season series, while Michael Del Zotto led the Rangers with three goals and all team defensemen with four points. Henrik Lundqvist was 2-1-0 with a 2.67 GAA, and Martin Biron was 0-1-0 with a 4.01 GAA.
  • The Rangers enter the contest with a three-game winning streak against the Canadiens at Madison Square Garden, having out-scored Montreal, 15-7, during the streak
  • Only one of the Rangers and Canadiens last five meetings have been decided by fewer than three goals, a 5-3 win for the Blueshirts on Nov. 5, 2011 at MSG. The Rangers have posted a record of 3-2-0 over the span.
  • New York is tied for second in the NHL with a 6-2-1 (13 pts) record at home; Montreal is tied for 12th in the NHL with a 3-1-1 (7 pts) mark on the road
  • The Rangers are 3-1-0 vs. the Northeast Division this season; the Canadiens are 2-0-0 vs. the Atlantic Division this season
  • New York lists two former Canadiens on their roster: Arron Asham (1998-99 – 2001-02); Jeff Halpern (2010-11)
  • Montreal lists one former Ranger on their roster: Brandon Prust (2009-10 – 2011-12)
  • Rangers’ defenseman Ryan McDonagh was originally selected by the Canadiens as a first round choice, 12th overall, in the 2007 NHL Entry Draft

Henrik Lundqvist — 25 GP, 13-9-2, 2.91 GAA, 1 SO
Martin Biron — 29 GP, 14-12-0-1, 2.42 GAA, 2 SO
Brad Richards — 34 GP, 9-13-22
Marian Gaborik — 17 GP, 5-7-12
Ryan Callahan — 19 GP, 6-4-10
Michael Del Zotto — 9 GP, 3-3-6

The Blueshirts’ penalty kill has held opponents scoreless in each of the last five contests (16 times shorthanded). New York has posted a record of 4-1-1 when holding opponents scoreless on the power play.
Power Play: The Rangers tallied one goal in five power play attempts (8:07) on Sunday vs. Washington. New York ranks 30th overall (6-53, 11.3%) and 23rd at home (5-33, 15.2%). The Rangers are 1-6 (7:05) in five-on-three situations (last – 2/14 vs. NYI), and 0-0 (0:00) when four-on-three. Shorthanded goals allowed (0).
Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts held the Capitals scoreless in four attempts (8:00) on Sunday at Madison Square Garden. New York ranks eighth overall (48-57, 84.2%) and is tied for ninth at home (32-38, 84.2%). The Rangers are 2-2 (3:12) in three-on-five situations (last –1/29 vs. PHI), and 2-2 (1:57) when three-on-four (last – 1/31 vs. PIT). Shorthanded goals for (1): 1/20 vs. PIT (Nash).
Four-on-Four: New York did not skate in a four-on-four situation on Sunday vs. Washington, and are now minus-1 in 10 four-on-four situations (18:35) this season. Four-on-four goals for (1): 1/23 vs. BOS (Gaborik). Four-on-four goals allowed (2): 1/20 vs. PIT (Letang); 1/23 vs. BOS (Horton).

Tonight’s contest will be the fifth of nine scheduled games against Original Six opponents this season (3-1-0)
Henrik Lundqvist is 3-1-0 with a 2.66 GAA and .908 Sv% against Original Six opponents this season
Marian Gaborik leads the Rangers with five goals and seven points against Original Six opponents this season
Rick Nash has tallied a team-high, five assists against Original Six opponents this season
Michael Del Zotto (one goal, two assists), Dan Girardi (three assists) and Marc Staal (one goal, two assists) are tied for the team lead in points by a defenseman with three apiece
New York is 57-33-12 against Original Six teams since 2005-06, including a 13-12-3 mark vs. Montreal over the span. The Rangers’ .618 win% ranks second, trailing Detroit (.649, 44-22-8), and ahead of Montreal (.594, 76-50-13), Chicago (.539, 36-30-11), Boston (.535, 66-56-22), and Toronto (.489, 59-62-19).

The Rangers have registered at least a point in every game when scoring the first goal this season, posting a record of 5-0-1 in those contests, compared to 3-5-0 when allowing the game’s first goal. The Blueshirts have posted a 5-0-1 mark when leading after the first period, and are 5-0-0 when leading after the second period.

The Blueshirts have posted a record of 5-1-1 when out-shooting their opponents, which ranks seventh in the NHL. The Rangers are 3-4-0 when being out-shot by their opponent.

The Rangers are tied for second in the NHL in hits (422) this season, led by captain Ryan Callahan who ranks eighth in the league with 49 hits. Brian Boyle ranks second on the team and is tied for 10th in the NHL with 46 hits, while Marc Staal leads all Rangers defensemen and is tied for eighth among NHL blueliners with 37 hits.

Rangers’ rookie J.T. Miller notched two goals while making his Madison Square Garden debut  on Feb. 7 in a 4-1 win against the New York Islanders. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, the last Ranger (rookie or otherwise) to tally multiple goals in his MSG debut was Chris Kontos in a 6-2 win against Detroit on Jan. 3, 1983. Miller (19 years, 330 days) is the youngest Ranger to tally multiple goals in a single game since Alex Kovalev posted a hat trick on Dec. 27, 1992, at the age of 19 years, 307 days.

The Blueshirts have had eight players make their Rangers debut this season – Jeff Halpern, Rick Nash, Taylor Pyatt, Brandon Segal, Arron Asham, Benn Ferriero, Darroll Powe and J.T. Miller.

The Rangers have registered at least one point in nine of their last 12 contests (8-3-1) after dropping the first two games of the season
The Blueshirts enter the contest with a five-game point streak (4-0-1), and have out-scored their opponents, 18-10, over the span
The Rangers’ penalty kill has held opponents scoreless in each of the last five games (16 times shorthanded)
Henrik Lundqvist — is 7-3-0 with a 1.99 GAA and a .927 Sv% in his last 10 games; has held opponents to two goals or less in six of his last nine games (6-3-0, 1.88 GAA, .930 Sv% over the span)
Carl Hagelin — enters the contest with a four-game point streak (five goals, two assists over the span), including a career-high, four-game goal streak; has tallied nine points (six goals, three assists) in the last seven games
Rick Nash — enters the contest with a four-game point streak (one goal, four assists over the span), including a four-game assist streak
Dan Girardi — four points (one goal, three assists) in the last four games
Ryan McDonagh — four points (one goal, three assists) in the last five games
Marc Staal — four assists in the last five games
Marian Gaborik — 10 points (seven goals, three assists) in nine home games

Ryan Callahan — 6 assists from 100th NHL career
Michael Del Zotto — 4 points from 100th NHL career
Steven Eminger — 4 points from 100th NHL career
Brad Richards — 7 points from 800th NHL career
Marc Staal — 6 points from 100th NHL career
Anton Stralman — 7 points from 100th NHL career

Michael Sauer (concussion, 12/5/11) — 14
Total Man-Games Lost: 25

Feb. 13 — Assigned defenseman Steve Eminger to Connecticut (AHL) for conditioning
Feb. 15 — Assigned forward Chris Kreider to Connecticut (AHL)
Feb. 16 — Recalled forward Chris Kreider from Connecticut (AHL)
Feb. 18 — Recalled forward Brandon Mashinter from Connecticut (AHL)
Feb. 18 — Agreed to terms with goaltender Cam Talbot on a new contract


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  1. I just saw Lucia goal.
    I know his dad. he used to be in Fairbanks Alaska.
    Beautiful wife

    note to self………………do not drink and post

  2. From POW! to MASH INTER[R]!…hope Powe’s concussion is not serious. He was great on the penalty kill and blocking shots, added energy to the energy line. Be interesting to see how this 6’3″ 230lb Mash Interr plays. Scored points in 3 straight games at Hartford. Also be interesting to see whether Kreider can adapt to the mental part of the NHL game. I’ll be in a board meeting tonight, but maybe I’ll be able to catch the end of the game if it doesn’t run too long, or I’ll get to bed early enough to skate at 6 AM tomorrow morning…

  3. I’ve seen Mashinter play. He is good. 4th line? If he hits, I think he will stay for a while.

    Will Torts put him in over Kreider?

  4. One thing i love about Rangers v Habs games is the look on the Habs fans faces when Mack Truck owns their top line all game.

    Don’t forget your signs if you’re going to the game “Thank you for Mack Truck and No Gomez!”

  5. Rob in Beantown on

    Are we sure this is an Original Six matchup? I’d like to call the Elias Sports Bureau to confirm just to be sure

  6. Lil red white and blue vs blue white and red tonight? Psyched. At least it’s here and not in Montreal where afterwards Im typically found in the basement under a blanket muttering “there were…just…so many…so many goals…I won’t watch again I won’t I won’t!.”

  7. Rob in Beantown on

    And what of the metaphysical implications of the term “original?” To say nothing of the post-structural problems associated with “six” and the number system. Problematic to say the least.

  8. Share James sentiment exactly. Have no idea why this team plays so poorly in Montreal. I mean beyond the drop off you’d expect from playing in a hostile environment like the bell centre. Expect big things from Nash tonight. Habs should be feeling the tight game they had last night for sure. The king plays huge.

  9. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    I saw the Blueshirts get destroyed in Montreal way back in 1998. Otherwise a great night of debauchery.

  10. So does The Kreider get back in the lineup for anybody? I doubt he’s going in for Powe since that isn’t really his game. I think Torts likes players to play their role and if The Kreider can’t be a top 6 forward then he isn’t contributing. I expect Mashinter on the 4th line. Which is exciting since it’s always exciting to see what a youngster has got. Especially a gigantic human like Monster Mashinter.

  11. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    Let Mash center Big John Studd and Andre the Giant…then we’ll really have something.

  12. From Hockey’s Future:

    *Hulking* left winger Brandon Mashinter plays with physicality and grit while working the boards well down low but has to drive the front of the opposition’s net more often. The *hulking* winger needs improvement in his skating stride and defensive game to develop into a power forward but needs to get in the high traffic areas to score not trying to be a shooter or a sniper. He projects as a third or fourth line checking forward if he gets to the NHL.

    Mashinter could compete for a fourth line position in the NHL but will probably be returned to the AHL for another season. If he can improve his overall game then the big winger may see a call-up as an injury replacement.

  13. Haha. I love it, Duberstein. Tort marching out to center ice where Prust waits.

    “You don’t think I’m worth $10M, Eh? Well how much is your face worth because I am about to punch that fake tan right off it!” (But possibly in French)

  14. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    yes, center ice trash talk between Pruster’s broken French and Torts’ post-game Tortspeak would make it classic TV, like listening to Andre the Giant speak to Tarzan…

  15. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    Kredier being in Hartford is not a total waste of time – he’s interning at Hartford LIfe, to set himself up for his post-hockey career

  16. I want to see prust fight Boyle. Those two were attached at the hip. I know prust would win but that would be funny especially how close they were. Roommates on the road.

  17. I would think he (The Kreider) has to play. If not, then demote him and make him be the #1 player in the entire AHL. He’s 21. He’s older than Tarasenko. Stepan pulled it off at 21. Let’s get your head in the game, Chris. Sheesh.

    Hartford Life and Liberty Mutual both have offices in Hartford. Good for him.

  18. The Prust isn’t going to fight any of his buddies. They are all going to fawn all over each other and then go on a reminiscent Twitter spree of romance. I can’t blame them. Prust Rules.

  19. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    I agree with Manny…in fact, I think it’s even money that Prust woke up with Boyle’s boxers and T-shirt on

  20. Good morning, boneheads!

    If you can’t skate, you do not play for Montreal. That’s been their strength for years. That’s why this team has given the Rangers fits for longest time. This is what I’m anxious to see- how does this team measure up with Montreal in terms of skating. It could be different this time, first in many years. Who Prust does or doesn’t fight isn’t important.

  21. @stevezipay@ Looks like Mashinter might be in vs Montreal: Kreider and Bickel last ones on ice.


    See. Role players. Tort doesn’t want to stick Kreider into the 4th line. So he’s benched. Again.

  22. I sort of almost like benching Kreider rather than having him play 6:00 with Asham and Halpern.

    (I’ve missed a few days, anyone want to catch me up on the O’Reilly talk and whether our interest is confirmed or just rumored?)

  23. PBR: The game is at MSG tonight, Bell Centre on Sunday.

    Hopefully it’s 2 points and an end to the Prustmania.

    Like most Rangers fans I loved his energy and grit. I’ll miss his effort and penalty killing. I respect his wishes to get all he can as free agent. But tonight I want him to lose.

    Let’s hope #8 in white is the one trying to start something with Asham or whomever. That would mean the Habs are the team needing the spark.

    The Rangers are starting a stretch against teams they haven’t seen yet, and 8 of the next 12 are against teams that have been struggling. I know looking ahead is frowned upon, but the way the Rangers are going right now, I look for them to cash in on 18 of the next 24 possible points. I hope I’m right.

  24. I dont see Mashinter fighting Prust – different weight category. Do the Habs have a heavyweight now that Laracques is gone?

    Will be Asham v Prust if there is one, and i will cheer for Asham as he is the one in Ranger Blue (if im not blacked out tonight)

  25. Mister D, you’re right. No sense in seeing Kreider play minimal time with minimal skill linemates. It doesn’t help his growth at all. Gotta worry about the present and the future simultaneously

  26. and, if Mashinter gets sent down after tonight, or after the trip, we will know that Torts hates him and that his fate was predetermined.

  27. I’d root for Randon Rust over Rian Oyle in a fight. Justification: I’d like to see anyone clean the clock of Rian Oyle. :)

  28. I am not even sure that The Prust fights tonight. The Canadiens are playing very well and the only guy he would end up fighting would be Asham, who has also been shying away from such engagements.

  29. Romeo – your correction requires a correction. MSG tonight and Bell Centre on Saturday night (when I assume Biron gets the start to save Hank’s confidence from taking a blow).

  30. czechthemout!!! on

    It looks like one of the players the Avs want to give us is Erik Johnson in a potential MDZ trade. No thanks!

  31. I can’t believe it’s a real discussion trading Del Zaster for O’Reilly. I don’t think it’s a bad deal, just surprised that either side is into entertaining it. Since they are, let’s get the high scoring, cheap forward and move our super young, offensive threat, D-Man to make room to pay McBust what he deserves as the 115th best US-Born Defenseman actively playing in the NHL.

  32. To follow up, I am not really interested in their Defenseman that they want to give us back and I am NOT, repeat *NOT*, interested in giving up Derek Stepan.

  33. In any trade involving MDZ or any other dman youd want to get a dman back. I dont know anything about Johnson but he had 26 points last year If he has a shot from the point why not?

  34. _Please justify rooting for Prust over Asham._

    Because it doesn’t really affect the game (its not like rooting for a Prust goal) and I like Prust more. In 5 years, we won’t even remember Asham as a Ranger (and if we do, that means something really bad happened). In 5 years, “its just pain” and all Prust’s Prustiness will still be a fond memory, atleast for most of us (wink, Lloyd).

  35. If we were just drafting players, I’d take O’Reilly over MDZ but we’re not and I don’t see much point in opening a hole likely bigger than the one we’re closing. Prospects going out I’d be more than fine with.

  36. czechthemout!!! on


    Stepan is not in the discussion apparently.

    Other than maybe McIlrath we have nothing on defense in Hartford.

    Erik Johnson has been a disapointment as a first overall draft pick. He would be a salary dump for the AVS. Maybe Torts can get him to play to his potential. He has great size speed a good shot so the tools are there.

    On another note, the idiots who ranked the USA defensemen have him ranked higher than MCD. Fools!

  37. Well if he’s better than McBust I will take him. That would make him one of the best D-Men in the league.

  38. Thanks Manny, my mistake.

    Regarding Stepan: I hope that line (21, 61, 62) stays together a long, long time. Just scratching the surface on how productive they can be.

  39. This ranking of McDonagh is ridiculous. There are plenty of good USA defensemen, but to not have McDonagh in the top six is ignorant.

    I also heard on NHL Network, I think it was, that Brodeur is going to be Canada’s goalie. LOL.

  40. Amen, Romeo. Stepan dishing to Nash who shoots and Hagelin eats up the rebounds. Hagelin is also great along the boards given his size. I hope Hagelin has a hall of fame career just feasting off of Nash’s leftovers.

  41. It is ridiculous, Carp. But, maybe the Rangers can use it as leverage to lock up McBust long term at a discount.

    Can’t you see them in those negotiations, “Well, your client is the 21st best American born defenseman in the league. As you can see, these 15 guys all make less than $1.5M. Therefore we think $800K for 7 years is fair.”

  42. Prusty happy to scratch Bickel from any potential dustoff, not that that would happen anyway. It’s Asham or nothing. He might be logging in to hockeyfights, however, to note any weaknesses in Mash. :-) Always beware counterpunchers a la Nicky Fotiu. Even Ali had a problem with Jimmy Young. (who?)

  43. Good point, Manny. Happens every time. One reason athletes have agents is because they don’t want to hear all the BS negatives that management likes to toss around during negotiations,

  44. I( find Asham a sort of ,mystery man. He really doesn’t do much, but he always seems to be in the field of action, and there is probably a few teams that he has not played for, which is telling in itself, but he never seems to stick with any for any length of time. You would think that he probably looked as though he might be a top scorer or wonder defensively, but if so why has he always been let go to again pop and up somewhere else. Possibly the Canucks could find a spot for him…the globetrotters perhaps? Somebody? Yeah, let’s hear it…a spot for Asham. A spot for Asham. Would it not be strange if he finally wound up with the very team that he broke in with? Oh, what irony.

    I had nothing of merit to put in about that game just completed, so I’m now reduced to a touch of whimsy. Does everyone in Montreal except for the chosen few, still all stand up behind the seat in the back of the upper arena?

  45. torts handling of Kreider shows he is a moron.

    yep suit up Mashinter a non entity prospect over Kredier because you do not want Kreider to play 4th line minutes. SO play Kreider zero minutes from the press box..

    torts will change the lines 5 minutes into the game so Kreider could move up anyway. I forgot torts loves a 4th line with 1 point on the season and Mashinter fits in perfectly on that line…

    Kredier is 21, 220 pounds, a top 3 skater on the team with a first shot, and you are not playing him and helping him develop.. SHREWD….

  46. Kredier is 21, 220 pounds, a top 3 skater on the team with a first shot, and you are not playing him and helping him develop.. SHREWD….


    Can’t really remember the last time he played like that description.

  47. When Kreider figures out how to play in the NHL, he will play in the NHL. And I don’t think it will take long.

    Mashinter is a more prototypical fourth-line player and a guy they want to see … just as they wanted to see Kreider, and Miller, and Hagelin, etc.

    This move is not moronic. You might disagree with it, and I might too. But it makes sense on a number of levels. Especially if the objective is to win the game. Which, I believe, it is.

  48. Litttle Hags is more forceful and physical behind the net and in corners than The K. Both have nifty skate reverse moves, but Kreider must learn to use his heft more. IMO, he’s tentative, but that should fade as he develops more confidence.

  49. Since his signature goal last April vs Holtby, Kreider has shown us one flash of the total package against Tim Horton’s rewards Club member Marty Brodeur earlier this month.

  50. If Kreider is not going to play up here then they should have left him down in the ahl and play top line minutes. I’m not sure what he gains by not playing, unless of course the ankle is still an issue.

  51. Yea The Kreider needs to be much better away from the puck. He also needs to be more assertive. Much like Hagelin (which I think Tort made reference to last season).

    LMGiguerreO at “Tim Horton’s rewards Club member Marty Brodeur”.

  52. he went to Connecticut, and had to be recalled because of Nash injury. They recalled Mashinter because of the Powe injury and decided to hang onto Kreider for a few days. Maybe because they have a two-game trip upcoming and they want to have an extra forward, or maybe because they won’t like Mashinter tonight and will use Kreider on the trip, or whatever.

    They don’t make decisions like this without thinking about them. And if, in the end, Kreider is not going to play here, he will go back down.

    Why is this so complicated?

  53. When Chris learns to use his speed to get to pucks and realizes this game calls for him to do things he wasn’t called upon to do at BC, and learns better positioning, we got something going. It will happen. I don’t think he wants to be an accountant.

  54. I think it is pretty simple, Carp. As I said, Tort wants certain players to play their role. Some players have more fluid roles. But a guy like The Kreider is here to play top 6 minutes and if he can’t do that then why not put him in the Press Box and tell him to watch Hagelin or Miller (Who played 15 minutes on Sunday night) or something. He’s not gaining anything by being told to play a totally different style game (4th line) than the Rangers want him to play.

    Learn kid. You’re older than Tarasenko!

  55. Even if he’s not playing, they should let Kreider handle all the intermission interviews with Trautwig, so he can frustrate him with only non-verbal answers.

  56. Manny you raise an interesting point though. Is Tarasenko so defensively responsible and mature at the NHL level that he can at his age just jump right in and play, and is that the case with so many other first round picks over Kreider? Or has Kreider just not been enough of an offensive weapon that they simply have to play him anyway? Or is Torts’ system that much more demanding? Not making a judgement here just asking.

  57. carp i just disagree with you.

    torts changes the lines every 5 minutes so his line rationale is usually bull.

    the 4th line is bull. powe, halpern, and asham play hard etc but sure they do not fall when they skate but do little else.
    boyle can replace powe on the 2nd PK unit…. again who is passing Kreider the puck in Connecticut? He is a finsher not a creator….

    i forgot the rangers have too much offense….

  58. Peter – pretty much what I am asking. Why does a kid like Tarasenko come in here and light it up. Maybe it is because the expectations on the Oilers are much lower and they don’t mind riding out mistakes. I haven’t watched the kid enough I guess.

    But we can use Miller as an example. I think overall he has been much more responsible and effective than The Kreider has been (over a large stretch).

  59. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    French fries. Silk ties. Never lies, always tries, money buys, I am wise, born and dies, Stallone is sly, not my guy, pastrami on rye, domi be tai…..


  60. I think the 4th line has been doing their job, eating up minutes and not screwing up, which is all I need out of them. Hardly useless, those minutes give the top lines a breather.

    If only there was a 3rd D pair we could say that about. Then maybe Girardi and company will have a little more in the tank come May.

  61. I think it is complicated because management is flip flopping on Kreider’s “development”. He needs to play either here or Hartford.

  62. Sometimes you can learn by imprinting. Like watching a smooth golfer instead of hacking it up on the course the same way over and over. Not to say you don’t play.

  63. miller and Kreider are 2 different players. who has been better miller, kreider, asham, halpern, or powe? that is the question.

    this mythology that your 4th line should be plumbers and other wise tales are foolish…

    when miller and kreider are both in the lineup is this team more talented, bigger, and faster? the answer is yes and btw both Miller and Kreider have serious upside…

  64. If we honor philosophy because it is a noble profession and denigrate plumbing because it is a wrenching profession, we will have holes in our philosophy as well as our pipes.

  65. I’m not really worried about Kreider yet. Let’s remember, he is at game 25 of his NHL career. I haven’t seen anything that leads me to believe he’s not going to figure things out.

    One thing I am concerned about next year’s cap and fitting all the RFAs in. The Rangers will almost have to use their get of jail free card on Gaborik. My question is: Can a team do an amnesty buyout and re-sign that player at a lower price? McD, Step and Hags are all going to get paid and you’re probably looking at 12 million or more for those three. Trimming 7.5 mil of Slovak would help. I would like to see #10 back, but not at 7.5 mil.

    Speaking of RFAs, how much would a healthy Michael Sauer have helped this year?

  66. You can’t re-sign or otherwise re-acquire anyone you’ve bought out for at least a year. Can’t see them using it on Gaborik in any case.

  67. Tarasenko did have 4+ years of an apprenticeship in the KHL, which is a slightly different development path to Kreider.

  68. sauer would have helped a ton. he is a legit defensive d man who was really good before he was phaneufed…..

  69. “The Rangers will almost have to use their get of jail free card on Gaborik.”

    I think Sean Avery has a better chance of being captain next season, then the Rangers buying out one of the best goal scorers in the game.

    Even if the Rangers had such cap problems and needed to get rid of his contract, there would be 29 teams looking to trade for him so buying him out would never even cross their mind.

    How do some people come up with such garbage is beyond me…

  70. yeah, you’re right stuart and Rexx. Fire the coach. He knows nothing. We could do better. Nobody ever uses hard-hat guys on the fourth line. Great coaches use their top skill/speed/finesse guys on the fourth line. Always.
    and nobody’s ever been developed in the minor leagues. ever.

  71. No, I can’t see a Gaborik buyout with the Richards albatross looming. I think no buyout this year, Richards after 2014. IMO.

  72. All I can say in my defense was that I misread the term length of Gabby’s contract. But they do have cap problems for next year.

  73. Miller and Kreider do not belong on the 4th line, Stuart. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever. Miller was slotted down for extra minutes on the 4th line when Pow! got completely knocked out because Tort apparently thinks he’s defensively responsible and let him use those young legs for some extra shifts.

  74. I think if there’s a solid C available this offseason at a lower cap hit than Richards, they may as well buy him out now. Can you think of a guy who fits this profile, Manny?

  75. The Rangers do not have cap problems next season because Redden and Drury’s combined 7.4 million is coming off the books which is more than what it will take to cover the raises for McDonagh, Hagelin and Stepan as Sather has and will always be stingy when it comes to resigning RFAs.

    That will leave the Rangers with about 3 million in cap space to round out the final 3 spots on the roster…

  76. FYI, the possibility of Gaborik buyout didn’t originate in this thread, Arthur Staple of Newsday and other professional writers have suggested it.

  77. Great question, The Doctor. Let me think on that one for a while. I assume you mean Olli Jokinen? Just kidding. Evgeni Malkin will be available in 2014 (although I bet he takes a salary hit to stay in Pittsburgh with his star-crossed lover, Cindy Cross-Bee). I assume there is no getting H. Sedin away from his other half. So there is always the hated Jumbo Shrimp Joe Thornton. Or John Mitchell, Michael Haley and Kris Newbury?

  78. I really do love Stephen Weiss and think he would fit here. Very well. This is why I refer to the guy that posts as “FlaRanger” as Stephen Weiss. Just assume he was going to be a Ranger one day. Hey, if that fails, we can always bring back crowd favorite, Scott Gomez!

  79. Regarding the dreaded cap: For the 2013-14 season, there are 17 players under contract totaling just under $54m, McDonagh, Stepan and Hagelin not among them. And while Redden and Drury are finally off the books, there is only $10.8m left to sign those 3 RFAs and fill 3 other spots.

    I don’t know if they’ll want to be that tight going into 2014-15 when Hank, Callahan and Girardi are all UFAs. But this will be Jeff Gorton’s dilemma.

    Ah, snow days.

  80. Just looked at the cap; aside from the guy I’m always harping on, the only player on the signed list I’m unhappy about is Asham. That was a bad idea.

  81. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    I will be the first to admit I have never seen, nor know much about, O’Reilly, but his production looks awfully similar to Stepan’s, and he is already “holding out”, even though he was offered $3.5M per for 2 years as an RFA?


  82. Carp, I continue to see poll numbers here indicating that more posters do not see the Rangers making the playoffs than do.

    Must be those infernal Islander fans infesting the site, eh? I’m sure your objective investigative powers will ferret them out for proper punishment!

    Look Ma no smiley face!!! But a very big LOL!

  83. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    Hypothetically, if they signed a Getzlaf or Weiss – and that put them over the cap – would they be able to carry the salary and decide to buyout Richards before the start of the season? Or would the buyout have to happen first?

  84. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    I don’t see Asham’s $1M being a big problem, considering the league minimum will be $550k and most players come in at $875k anyway.

  85. Well, Asham’s $1MM matters the full $1MM if it prevents you from signing a guy into his slot.

  86. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    Mister D, I know there’s a summer cap that’s a bit higher, but I’m not sure if it’s a hard cap. I’m pretty sure the Devils were over a few years back and had to make some decisions before the start of the season, or risk giving up a roster spot.

  87. O’Reilly’s a favourite of the advanced stats geeks like Carp – he wins faceoffs and plays tough defensive minutes, compared to Stepan.

    But there’s still something that tells me a chunk of Rangers fans wouldn’t like a 20-goal, 60-point forward getting $4m-$5m a year.

    Can’t see the Rangers realistically beating other teams to acquire him anyway.

  88. Giving up a roster spot would not be an issue for us. We play with 11 forwards almost every night anyways.

  89. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    True, I meant that if you have to have someone who drops the gloves, then it’s going to cost you about the same amount of money to fill the spot. Asham does have some forechecking ability and a decent shot…at least moreso than a John Scott/Orr.

  90. Don’t we currently pay a 25 goal, 50 point defensive forward a bit over $4MM per and love every second of it?

  91. I agree with E3 on his last comment…

    Carp, there you go again, forgetting that there is no room for rational thought lol..Enough of this “The organization knows best” when clearly it’s the fans with short fuses who have it right!!

    ps- Maybe the McD snubb was because of some disgruntled Habs fans that were in charge of rankings, eh?

    On a serious note – I agree with the compliancy buyout for Richards in ’14

  92. Summer cap is still a hard cap. The Devils compliance manual suggests ways to get under include sudden “injuries” (Matvichuk, Salvador), trade dumping (Malakhov) or liberal Reddening (Mogilny, McGillis, Vishnevsky).

  93. CommonSense, that’s nothing..the polls also show that 1 out of every 3 people in this country DO NOT KNOW that the bird is the word!

  94. kind of wonder why the people who believe the organization does everything right even bother participating in a discussion forum

  95. It would seem to me that against the fast-skating Canadiens, Torts should have really considered playing Kreider in this one. But that would mean reversing his position temporarily, so I get that it’s not happening. Plus Torts hates Kreider, even though Kreider outscored just about every player on our team in the playoffs last year having never played in an NHL game.

  96. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    In fact, isn’t there a poster on here that complains that Callahan is a $4M+ 3rd liner?

  97. no, Tortorella doesn’t hate any one and every decision he makes is free of bias or preconception; dude is basically a flawless human.

  98. Because Lloyd, some of us like to discuss and critique and yes- even criticize- without getting our blood pressure up or getting nasty with the guy who runs it. It’s called using the forum for “enjoyment”. To each their own, I suppose.

  99. Obviously, the organization and the coach have no idea what they’re doing paying Callahan that much or making him the captain of this team, Gravy.

  100. I think you meant to type “applaud and blindly praise” where you put “discuss and critique”

  101. Lloyd, i assume you are talking to me? I try to explain thing i know and also try to explain why i think some comments are misguided. But of course this coach hated & got rid of your fave, whom no other team in the nhl wanted, so obviously everything he’s done is wrong and based in personal hatred.

  102. James and Lloyd, intelligent, rational comment based of course on historical observations but digressing from the usual sycophantic Carp…ing!

    Now you risk some incendiary denigration of your allegiance to the team and the corruption of your handle!

  103. Remember when Sean Avery was available for LESS than the league minimum in contribution pay and not one team claimed him?

  104. Ah LLoyd, didn’t take long eh? \

    You must remember that when a new tablet comes down from Mt. Hockey you are to assume a servile pose while gratefully being allowed to touch the hem of our exalted leader! LOLL

  105. Are you talking about re-entry waivers Manny? It wasn’t less than league minimum it was a shared cap hit for re-entry waivers. What you’re referring to sounds like DFA in MLB.

  106. Thom94, succinct and accurate description of the local chapter of cheerleaders,pom pom wavers and kool aid sippers!

  107. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    I tuned in here just now, and I found…the LoHud Yankee site?

    Have we devolved that far after only a few games?

    If this wasn’t the good ole U.S. of A., Carp would have already sent his KGB hit squads to visit certain IP addresses.

  108. It’s funny, Non-Cents, because you come around here only to shoot down someone who have been covering hockey since 1979 (and a bunch of people who live to talk about hockey with each other). Someone who has been around winning and losing teams and coaches. Someone who has had the chance to ask the questions we all just think in our head. But you act like that person should be replaced by you. It’s like when a corrupt government is overthrown by someone who just basically puts a worse government into effect.

  109. Speak about others if you want. I’d be delighted to pay you 100 bucks if you could back track through this year and last trying to find a post where I personally “applauded and blindly praised” ANYthing or ANYone to do with this hockey club.
    I joke around and I certainly enjoy it when they play well but I’m more critical than most. I just have the common sense that seems to be lacking around these parts when everyone let’s a slow start or some poor games sound like we’re the freakin’ 30th place team in the league.

  110. I have the word “Conrtibutions” on my mind, CT. That’s what I mean. Shared cap hit. So the team who originally had Mr. Sean Waivery on their roster would receive some contribution from the team that claims him allowing that team to defray their paycheck to Mr. Waivery.

    Make Sense?

  111. _Remember when Sean Avery was available for LESS than the league minimum in contribution pay and not one team claimed him?_

    That never occurred. Avery was available for half of his cap hit, a total of $2 million. He was claimed by the Rangers.

  112. Manny, indeed when warranted. Do you take some perverse pleasure in corrupting my handle, attribute to a brilliant writer and purist who while revered today was also reviled in three countries by those who did not comprehend the message?

    Free yourself from the darkness of “sheep thought”,I’ll send you a robe!!! ;)

  113. Pretty sure when the Rangers waived Sean Waivery it would have cost another team about $500K (give or take some bucks) to claim him. But no one did.

  114. I suppose most of the Kreider comments are really driven by the fact that we want to see the man step up and play in this league like he did in the playoffs last year. Mashinter is probably the more seamless role player for our 4th line, no doubt.

  115. Carp, why must you associate everything with a perceived bias toward the Islanders?

    I am a Ranger fan,I’ll give you my address and you may send me the Ranger loyalty oath certificate and the ultimate test………..the Carp 20 questions to determine my place in your august empire!

    Lighten up please and get these bleacher creatures off my case!

  116. James,

    Perhaps you don’t read this board that frequently but very few people have actually taken that attitude about the Rangers this season. There are complaints, yes, but I’ve not seen more than a couple of people act like this team is finished less than 15 games in. I guess I’m wondering if you don’t recognize a distinction between criticizing the team and believing they’re terrible and 30th in the league.

  117. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    Comnsnse…similar screen name to someone that was kicked off the Daily News site a year or two back for berating other posters who didn’t agree with him/her and the writer.

  118. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    Common Sense – It sounds like you know a ton about hockey, but why do you speak like Finch from American Pie?

  119. Does it not come with the territory that when the team has been relatively good, as it has been for at least a year, the general level of favourable views towards the team and coach would go up? Does that make every such favourable view “blind praise”?

    If the Internet had been invented before 2004, I’m guessing the balance would’ve been more towards “blind criticism” on your average Rangers forum.

    Who knows? Not me. I was a Lighternings fan back then. ♥ Tort

  120. _funny how Carp talks about Sean Avery more than anyone else here_

    Is it possible that this Carp fellow is in love with Sean Avery?

  121. I think there is a generally favorable view of the team here

    But make no mistake, this organization hasn’t earned anything beyond basic fan support and won’t until it’s more than 1 championship in 73 years.

  122. Might also be a distinction between blind praise for the coach and not seeing every roster move as a stubborn, predetermined ego trip.

  123. Comnsnse – Not sure what you’re getting at. Unfortuantely, still don’t understand the ;) abreviation. What is that?

  124. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    Lloyd, you may not get the reactions you do if you interspersed a positive comment about the team once in awhile without a corresponding condescending comment. Alliteration across the nation.

  125. _But make no mistake, this organization hasn’t earned anything beyond basic fan support and won’t until it’s more than 1 championship in 73 years._

    What if its 2 in 74?

  126. Gravy,

    I’ve praised this team repeatedly since the season started. I will also criticize them (and the coach) when they don’t deliver.

  127. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    NYRsince72…it’s a “winky face” which generally means “just kidding”, or “aren’t I witty”.

  128. Gravy, Outed! But at least get the story straight.

    Banned by a newbie writer no longer doing the blog for having the temerity to criticize his banal commentary and ask if he would recognize Sphinx Sather if he fell on him!

    Please observe the paucity of posters now on said blog.

    Like all great men whose brilliance is oft denigrated during their time on the coil, think Galileo,Mushnick, Raissman, my illumination does not always penetrate the dak recesses of intransigent minds or convert the unwashed!

  129. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    Gravy – it could also be mis-interpreted to mean “you look cute in that stained wife beater”

  130. Carp,

    Serious question, who do you think the diamonds are? Obviously McDonagh is. Kreider? Miller? Do you buy that McIlrath can be a top defensemen? Who else is on the list

  131. Can understand to a point that in the rawest sense, not winning the Cup is failure, so (over)praise isn’t warranted. Would make supporting a team a pretty miserable experience to me, personally though.

  132. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    Common Sense – We’ve only recently come to know your online persona, and I’d never use that to judge you in real life…for all we know, you spend every waking hour feeding the poor, clothing the homeless and masturbating the lonely.

    But you choice of big words is giving me a headache, mang. Please splain…

  133. Carp, obtuseness does not become one of the writing fraternity.

    Please offer a family version to the gentleman!

    And please identify those “few competent people in the organization”?

    Thank you.

  134. While I don’t agree always with Carp, probably most particularly when it comes to some handling of the younger players, I come to this site becuase the summaries are generally spot-on, the analysis well-reasoned and there’s usually amusing give-and-take in the comments. I guess if I didn’t feel that way, I wouldn’t bother visiting.

  135. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    _Gravy – it could also be mis-interpreted to mean “you look cute in that stained wife beater”_


  136. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    I only come here for the free food…I have no idea who this “Carp” person is that you all talk about

  137. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    Comnsnse, I think you will find Carp to provide a bit more insight (whether you agree with his assessments or not). I was an occasional poster on NYDN, but have become more of a semi-regular here because of Carp and the rest of the crew here.

  138. Fats, that part about self flagellation hopefully refers to the mental variety?

    Oh, and your childlike comment is personal……………because you don’t know me.

    Repeat the “parachute theory”……… the mind it will not work unless it’s open”!

  139. Nothing wrong with criticizing OR looking at the team favorably, Lloyd. Both are god-given rights of any fan of any sports team. What I question is those posts where you can feel someone’s anger because people do not share the same views or opinions.

    For instance, I don’t think this organization does everything right. I think they get more right than they do wrong and have over the last 7 years or so. I believe that Torts is a great coach. Could care less about his attitude when the cameras are on. And I don’t see another coaching candidate that could be considered a logical choice for an upgrade. If you don’t agree- no problem. you don’t have to. For me to tell you that you do is ridiculous. Same if you don’t agree with me.

  140. Gravy, I endorse your opinion wholeheartedly which is why I am here as well.

    However I too feel that when criticism is warranted and supported by known fact and dare I say clinical observation,it should be welcomed not denigrated.

    Pull the rip cord and fly!

  141. Hey Carp , who said fire the coach because I sure didn’t. I also didn’t say play kreider on the 4th line, he could either play on the 3rd with Boyle and Miller, move Pyatt down or send him to Hartford to play on the first line there, then call him up if/when he is ready. I don’t think it is conducive to his development for him to be in and out of the lineup. You can disagree with my opinion but don’t put word words in my mouth.

  142. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    The good news about this kind of heated debate is that, if the Rangers do have any sustained success this season, we already know what the “yeah, but’s” will look like

  143. Gravy, as an example why would any knowledgeable hockey purist/fan rag on the greatest goalie ever, Martn Brodeur?

    Carp, what about that LOL on your post referring to him?

  144. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    I don’t think anyone here gives anyone a hard time just for ciritcizing the team. However, there is a right way to do so, and it doesn’t have to involve getting personal with Carp or others, as some may.

  145. I think Tortorella is an excellent defensive coach, at least at this stage of his career. Perhaps he was better years ago but I think his understanding of the offensive side of the game is sorely lacking. That being said, I don’t want the guy fired, nor do I think there are better options out there. But is the guy a jerk? Absolutely. Does he make decisions based on personal biases? Yes. I don’t believe it’s 100% about the team with Tortorella. He’s just too emotional for me to think he’s completely objective. I think fundamentally he wants the team to succeed but he also needs the world to know that the team is his team and that the players do not call the shots. I do believe he has made decisions that aren’t based entirely on hockey, and that’s what bugs me about him. The knowledge that he is capable of freezing out players because he’s pissed at them makes me think that not every move he makes will ultimately serve the team but serve to show everyone that John Tortorella runs the show. I don’t believe that’s all he’s about as a coach, but it’s part of his make-up.

  146. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    It would be one thing to have a handle like Gravy, Marty is a terrible goalie and quite another to say that the man never met a box of donuts he didn’t like.

  147. Kenny Albert Rules! on

    -What’s with the orange?
    -My doctor says I need vitamins.
    -So why don’t you take vitamins?
    -You come here to give me a physical?

  148. I had to pull off on 91 driving from Philadelphia to Boston for that reason, Eddiex3. Terrifying.

  149. Duberstein,.mea culpa but you do remember what happened to another chubby fellow in the movie “From here to Eternity”?

    CCCP,isn’t that on the old Soviet Union flag,and another straight line ?

  150. Ryn Mcdngh is the best USA born defenseman in hockey.

    *Waving pom poms while chanting M-C-D-N-G-H

  151. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    CMMNSNS – You mean Ernest Borgnine? You call that chubby? Stick around, kid.

    By the way, wasn’t that a chick flick?

  152. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MrD I hate having to drop a duece on any throne but the home throne. While I have 3 to choose from, I love the middle throne at my crib…

  153. Gravvy, you’re moving backwards,stay the course.

    Of course Marty is not fat Be calm Dubi) and is a great goalie. I hope his ex was not your sister-in-law or her sister!

  154. Dubes, you’re stretching.

    If you know the movie it featured Lancaster, Borgnine recently passed, Kerr, Clift and a best supporting Oscar for Frankie! You must be a Tarantino buff!

    Just remember if we meet, Ernie was a prince and gentle giant in real life.

    Conduct yourself properly!

  155. I’ve been saying this for 3 years now and will continue to say it, Kreider has all talent in the world, but his effort level and determination leaves a lot to be desired. I think he’ll eventually settle in, but this kid is never going to be a superstar until his attitude changes.

    If Tortorella and Callahan can’t teach him what he needs to do in order to be successful, then he probably never will.

    He’s an American born Europansy…

  156. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    At least he wasn;t wearing that Danish silk rave “shirt” that Duguay modelled on TV 2 games ago. Oooh la la

  157. CT – why did you turn on me? As a fellow bonehead raised in CT I would think that we had more of a bond….

  158. Gravy, You Know You Want Some Marty on

    I always thought the “DP” chant was appropriate since he screwed the Isles franchise in at least two ways.

  159. *LW3H* February 19th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Might also be a distinction between blind praise for the coach and not seeing every roster move as a stubborn, predetermined ego trip.



  160. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    Manny Manny fo-Fanny

    As Bruce Willis once so eloquently said:

    welcome to the party, pal!

  161. Lloyd, sorry for the delay, I was in the subway. … I think those are the obvious guys, as were/are Hagelin and Stepan. I think they’re cautiously optimistic with McIlrath after the injury, and are going to be very, very careful with him. Not a high skill guy playing a very difficult position for a kid, while recovering from a knee injury. I have never seen him other than YouTube fights.

    I don’t know what they think of Thomas, Bourque others, but I’m sure they will be cautious with them, too. They really liked Hrivik and, until GWG PAT Rinaldo concussed him, they thought he might be one of the first recalls.

    Rexx, sorry, I shouldn’t have lumped you in there. Somebody else seemed to be saying the coach should be fired in that vicinity of comments, or called him a moron or something due to this decision about a fourth-line winger. My point could have been made better … that they don’t make decisions with young kids based on temperamental fans stomping their feet demanding to see the kid rather than let him develop.

    And I never, ever, ever said that every decision this organization makes is the right one. Not even close. But they’ve made more right ones in the past few years than they made for the entire decade or dozen years before that combined.

  162. Serious question: The Habs are making Prust available to the media. I personally could not care less (or, as JR would say, I could care less). He’s not making it into my story today, and he left for the money, and I have no personal attachment to the guy. So, by show of hands (or comments), do I bother going down and getting audio from him? If you want to hear what he says, I’ll do it. If not, no biggie.

  163. Kenny Albert Rules! on

    I don’t care either way. What he says is going to be what we know already anyways and how he misses the guys and looks forward to their 3 meetings this year etc.

  164. Carp – Prust is one of my favorite players. Entirely from his performance here in NY and the whole “It’s just pain” thing. Love him.

    I don’t really care about the audio though because I can really just assume what he’s going to say about how Tort helped him play better and he’s got friends for life but on the ice it’s all about winning, etc.

    Don’t ruin your day.

  165. On a serious note,I hope Prust doesn’t feel it’s necessary to fight someone like the Mash man who is heavyweight size.

    With apologies to Teddy, “Remember the Lucic”.

  166. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    Am I wrong for liking the tune of the Canadian theme song as much as I like the tune to the star spangled banner? Must just be from watching hockey…I’d guess half the football Giants couldn’t figure out the country from the song

  167. Kenny Albert Rules! on

    The question is if one of Prusts montreal teammates starts scrumming with Boyle, does Prust jump in and knock the Montreal guy out.

  168. I love the Canadien anthem. So does Mrs. Manny. We were just talking about how much we like it this weekend. During Hockey Day in America. When we didn’t get to hear that anthem.

  169. Rob in Beantown on

    The Canadian anthem is way better than the Star Spangled Banner. You don’t need to be a professional singer to be to sing it, which is huge. It’s stirring and understated all at once

  170. Yeah, I think I’ll go down and listen and post the audio. I hope he’s not all friendly and shaking everybody’s hands, but knowing some of the media members, they’ll be all weepy seeing him and calling him Pruster etc. Barf.

  171. _The Canadian anthem is way better than the Star Spangled Banner_

    NO! Kazakhstan National Anthem is the best!

  172. CCCP,are you a sleeper agent masquerading as a hockey buff compiling dossiers on the Carpsters?

    Where are you from in the Rodina?

  173. I think that very pretty girlfriend is one of the reasons he signed in French Canadia. That and the anthem.

  174. Amirante is getting a bit more treblous and animated lately. I think he wants another war and he wants us to win this one, like we used to do.

  175. So, Carp, you asked us what we thought, all of us said, “don’t bother” (including those who love The Prust) and you decided to go….Maybe you just love The Prust as much as I do?

  176. He’s not kidding, @comnsnse@ . He literally will come and beat you up. I know from experience….

  177. If there’s anything I hate more than a weepy sportswriter, it’s an upper bunk at the Clinton Correctional Facility.

  178. “Sir, we’re from the KGB. We don’t want any information, we’re just going door to door scaring the crap out of everybody.”

  179. Carp, i do want to hear what he has to say. Just please make the other reporters treat him as a member of the opposition and not as a Ranger. That’s what he is now.

  180. Couscous, try a better creative writing class. Too obvious and pedestrian!

    CCCP, are you in the file? Rank please!

    BTW, my closet as you put it is weaponized, think “stand your ground” and a lot of older well armed sometimes disgruntled folks who answered Colin Farrell’ s question and Pacino’s answer by ratcheting the slide.

    Live and be well.

  181. I expected way more Prust talk today.

    I will give ten dollars to the first millionaire who punches him in the face

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