Rangers-Bruins in review: Live Chat at noon today

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Before we look back at last night’s mayhem, remember we will have a Live Chat right here at noon today. Should be some interesting discussion given what happened and how it happened last night. Be there. Or else.

Thoughts:

1) I haven’t had the opportunity to say this in a long time, but this game is an exception to even the general stupidity of the shootout? Yeah, the fans love it, right commissioner? Ask all those Boston fans if they loved it as they were filing out with what would have been an all-timer of a tie instead leaving with a loss; and the Rangers get a win in a game they coughed up like a hairball. All because of a contest that has nothing to do with hockey, after two teams played 65 minutes of high-stakes hockey. And so many Bettman Bonus Points for losing are being handed out this year, a 48-game season that’s one-quarter done, those stupid Losers’ Points are going to decide playoff berths. What a freakin’ joke.

2) I don’t know if I should go with the idea that the Rangers won their third in a row, beating one of the real Beasts of the East (for a second time), and on how many guys did so many good things … or if I should go with the crash at the end.

3) Well, last things first (I mean, last in terms of the actual hockey game; I’m not going to talk about the Breakaway Contest After The Hockey Game Ends — BCATHGE other than to say about the Rick Nash goal: Wow) … I thought for about six or seven of the last 12 minutes the Rangers were defending the lead in textbook fashion.Then they didn’t. They got a little too happy with the dump-it-out idea too early, IMO.

4) Having said that, the third Boston goal was a really lucky carom off Ryan Callahan’s skate that went directly to the only guy who could have scored right there, and if that doesn’t happen, the Rangers win 3-2 in regulation and we’re all talking about the parade route today.

5) Rick Nash. The guy did some amazing things with the puck in the first 65 minutes, too. That first goal he set up, by Carl Hagelin, was nuts, and even though he had an empty half a net, Hagelin put it up top with some mustard on it just in case Tuukka Rask got across somehow. Hagelin’s had a bunch of really good games in a row now, and looks like he could make a career out of being Nash’s sidekick. And Derek Stepan is just fine there between them, too. That, unfortunately for the Rangers in some ways, is now the No. 1 line.

6) Stepan’s goal was exactly why the Rangers’ coaches want him to shoot the puck more, and why they think he can be a top-two center. And why the Rangers won’t trade him for Dustin Byfuglien, as some suggested yesterday.

7) Oh, back to Nash. He is ridiculous with the puck and he’s been very good without it. He hit a post, probably could have scored a couple. I loved the fact that he went back at Milan Lucic after that high hit. But I didn’t love the fact that he took a hooking penalty there, which cost the Rangers a goal. And he also had a bad turnover later. And, still, he was one of the best players in the game. Lots of people found it ironic that he scored that beauty of a goal just about the time Howser Howson got fired  in Columbus … about a year too late. If Howson had to trade Nash, he should have done it at the deadline when he could have had an extra first-rounder in June, and the Rangers could have had Nash for the playoffs. And the question remains, how was Howson allowed to trade Nash on his way out the door himself?

8) I thought it was a very tough first period for J.T. Miller. The teenager actually had a tough night in a tough place against a tough team. I thought he got better later in the game, though. Not sure which way he’s going to go here.

9) Henrik Lundqvist protected the lead during a scrambly start to the second period that included another woeful too-many-men penalty, and made two (at least) big saves (and got help from a good defensive play by Nash) before  Stepan made it 2-0. Then he made the enormous short-handed save on Patrice Bergeron after Dan Girardi’s cough-up at the PP point.

10) In general, despite a couple of hiccups, it was another monstrous game by Ryan McMonster and Block Ness Monster Girardi.

11) That said, I thought Marc Staal was too aggressive on the goal immediately at the end of the Boston power play, leaving — once again — two Bruins open behind him, and he went to his knees instead of taking his man on the second goal. Too bad, because he had a pretty good game otherwise, too.

12) The Rangers had an entire intermission to draw up a 5-on-3 and that’s what they came up with? And on the 5-on-4, I really think Richards is bad at the point. Then when he has to play defense, it’s frightening. He almost got Marian Gaborik killed by Lucic on the 5-on-4 after the 5-on-3 ended. Richards just hasn’t been close to himself yet this season, especially on the point, IMO.

13) Fitting that the winner came off the stick of Ryan Callahan, isn’t it always? The problem of playing Callahan with the kids, Miller and Chris Kreider, is when the coach takes the kids out of the rotation in the third period, he risks losing Callahan. And now John Tortorella is going to have to make some decisions about Miller and Kreider. I think they’ve added enough to certainly get more time in the lineup, and what makes me say that is I just remember how sloth-like the four lines looked before those two got uniforms. I think they need to stay in. And while Arron Asham is growing on me as a player, I think Brian Boyle is better than four players who were in the lineup in Boston, and I do NOT mean Miller and Kreider.

14) That’s a damn good team up there in Boston. The Rangers are done with them. Two wins (though Boston got a Bettman Bonus Point in each).

15) Unrelated, can anybody answer this? When there’s a staged fight, the linesmen back away and let them fight on and on and on and on. Yet when there’s a legit hockey fight, like Kris Versteeg going after Alex Ovechkin for an earlier cheapshot, the linesmen don’t allow Ovechkin and Versteeg to fight at all? Even though they both wanted to go. WTB?

16) Too many men. Sick of that yet? How about failed 5-on-3?

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My Three Rangers Stars:
1. Rick Nash.
2. Carl Hagelin.
3. Derek Stepan.

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TSwift’s Three Rangers Stars:
1. Henrik Lundqvist – Great in the 1st and probably his best period of the season in the 2nd. 2/3 goals in the 3rd he didn’t have a chance.
2. Rick Nash – The pass on the first goal, and the move in the shootout should be enough, but he was also pretty good in his own end.
3. Derek Stepan – Playing with Nash’s talent and Hagelin’s speed has been great for him and now he’s finishing his chances.

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Your poll votes for Three Rangers Stars:
1. Rick Nash (23.64 %).
2. Henrik Lundqvist (20.45 %).
3. Ryan Callahan (15.45 %).

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Lucic/Nash photo and Hagelin celebration at bench by Getty Images; Nash goal, Hagelin goal, and Lundqvist photos by The Associated Press.

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  1. Great all around game by the Rangers up until the last two minutes! Happy they got 2 points on the road and hopufully they will learn something about playing for 60 and not for 58!

  2. Great write-up as always Carp. One thing you didn’t touch on is the Rangers’ lack of toughness with Rupp traded and Bickel scratched. You concerned by it? I feel like teams like Boston feed off weaknesses and it would become an issue in a playoff series.

  3. Look at the picture of Lucic hitting Nash….Not only was it a hit to the head but Lucic also left his feet! Would love to hear Shanny try to explain that one…but we all know it won’t happen. FUGGIN’ IDIOTS

  4. CCCP
    I am watching you, pls, not another stupid question out of the blue, you are not in Krajina any more. Here, we are supposed to punish the barbarians.

  5. I agree with you, Carp, and your choice of 3 stars. Hank could be a star every game, but Hags and Stepan should also get props for a good game.

  6. Andrew O I think there were a lot of calls that should have been made. So much holding going on which impeded offense. But if pp was better, then all the missed calls would mean even more

  7. Czechthemout!!! on

    Carp

    Never suggested they trade Stepan in a trade for big Buff. Only relayed a rumour I heard from a decent source. If it were up to me, I wouldnt trade Stepan in any deal unless it included another Rick Nash type player coming back. And even that trade didnt include Step.

    I would however trade MDZ and Boyle for Big Buff. In fact I would pay for their cab fare to JFK. Torts would get him into shape real fast. After some of the liberties the Bruins took tonight, and the glorious PP, he would be a welcome addition. And some of the ignorant comments about his skating ability was just mind boggling. It’s as if none of the guys ever watched him play. Did you guys see his stat?

    As for MDZ, all I hae to say is that Stralman is about to displace him as the number 4 dman if he has not done so already. He is surley soon to be trade bait.

  8. Andrew, I agree with your observation, but the league will not – there is some taboo on referee evaluation.

  9. Rick, a great read as always. Disagree on the shootout, though. Skills contest perhaps but terrific skills to watch. As for bonus points and playoff position? Can’t work up a sweat about it. All teams are in the same boat. Now … what gets me riled is those freaking bushel basket catching gloves on the Michelin Men, er … the goalies. This sport has too often ben soccer-on-ice since the Devils ruined it in the ’90s, and those gloves add to the low scoring. Just MHO. And as for the Rupper — getting rid of that useless plowhorse was a great move.

  10. Yeah, CCCP, that what they said after they liberated me and took my wristwatch, davay chasy sukhin syn, ha ha…. The KHL was suspended in those years, however….

  11. too bad they only took your wristwatch, newbear… woulda been better if they stuck something sharp between your ribs, too…

  12. Sorry, CCCP,

    just testing the 2nd Gen UKIs, I myself left Azov, pereulok Olega Koshevogo shortly after the meltdown, and it was a journey – imagine…

    But how did you get so humourless, even hostile in a second generation cocoon, do you remember your father’s stories, or was he a strong and silent type? I imagine we are contemporaries, for I too did not evade the humorless and the ridiculous on my own, I did need help too ( my parents).

    Later I felt I had something to contribute to this deteriorating culture of 0’s and 1’s, also known as digital.
    But that is not the point, damn the binary stuff, it may be a prelude to a new revolt, for my mind does not want to be digitized, but many other minds do not even suspect what is going on.

    So, you want me to be stuck like a pig in my ribs, or is it just a lumpen-bourgeois delusion that your parents tried to escape from?

    You do not need to respond. The freedom of speech includes the freedom of silence, ironically. Ya drugoy strany nyeznayu, gde tak volno dyshet chelovyek ….

  13. Ugh. Just finished watching. I was at the Panthers game earlier and this felt like deja vu. The Panthers were up by two and let the crapitals score 2 with around 4 mins left in the third and then the winner 30 seconds into overtime.

    I honestly couldn’t believe this could happen twice in a night.

    Btw the second goal by Boston should’ve been a hand pass. The puck was knocked down with the outside of the glove of the Boston guy in front before next being touched by the guy who scored. Textbook hand pass. Can’t believe they let that one go and no-one argued it.

    Even with the 3 goals this was Lunqvist’s best game. However he still needs to work on the juicy rebounds he gives the opposing offense, especially when the players on front of him have so much trouble finding the puck, much less clearing it out. And speaking of clearing, do you think the Rangers will ever work on their problems with clearing the defensive zone? They kept giving Boston opportunity after opportunity by failing to clear the zone in the third. Lundqvist shouldn’t have had to make so many unbelievably amazing saves tonight.

    I hated the way it happened but a win is a win…

  14. Oh and Carp, I hear you about the Versteeg-Ovechcant fight. But to be totally honest it wasn’t really much of a fight. Ovie got Versteeg’s jersey over his head so quickly that it wouldn’t have been such a riveting fight anyway. However I think that both of them deserved a fighting major either way. They did enough to deserve it imo. Of course I’m rooting for the Panthers so I’d take a versteeg for ovie 5 minutes trade-off in the box any day of the week. lol

  15. Oh Captain My Captain!!!

    Hands down THE most entertaining game of the year so far!

    I agree Stralman has moved to the top 4. He is looking like he should get a shot back on the power play. I like DZ but Stralman outplayed him last night.

    Carp don’t you think the BCATHGE is “advantage” Rangers? With Lundqvist! Then there’s this Nash Guy! WOW!

    Crazy, fun, entertaining, game last night!

  16. The Blueshirts are 5-1-0 in their last six games at TD Garden, having out-scored the Bruins, 15-10, over the span.

    Perhaps we should play here more often :)

  17. I can’t believe they gave up those 3 goals at the end of the game. They’re lucky they got the 2 points! A win is a win is a win.

  18. as good as Hank was he was at fault for the 2nd goal. shot from the point chest high, and could not control rebound. bad goal.

  19. and Stepan was the number 1 star in the game. he was the best Ranger on the ice last night.

  20. Lucic was a monster. His borderline high hit on Nash led to to a power play which led to the B’s first goal. He created traffic. His hand pass, which I only saw on replay, put the puck right on Horton’s stick for the second B’s goal.

    I think the stats showed the Rangers slightly outhitting the Bruins, but it seemed like the Bruins played with more nastiness. Lucic, Chara and, to a lesser extent McQuaid, hit every Ranger they could with impugnity and ill will. Several more penalties could have been called on them.

    Personally, I like it when the refs let them play, even if, starting in the the second period I wondered if the Rangers should retaliate for the hits to their better players and if they had the personnel to seriously go after Lucic and Chara.

    I’d love to see these two teams meet in the playoffs. When’s the last time that happened? ’72?

  21. Hanks star fades because of mishandling the puck on the 2 nd goal to let them back in. Clearly Nasher was #1. will the king ever get any better at that or will he just stay in his net? Answer probably not… He ages me on those.

  22. the Devils played with two 4th lines last night. they are doing it with mirrors right now. I don’t believe they are going to last.

  23. WHEN? will this team learn to play the game in the opponenet’s end of trhe ice…not their own?
    WHEN will they learn to make a line change without taking a penalty?
    WHEN will they learn how to make major league style passes instean whacky misdirected softies, so easily intercepted by the opponent?d of those.
    WHEN will they learn to give Lundqvist a break and not have to ‘
    “Stand on his head” to keep them alive?
    WHEN WILL THEY LEARN HOW TO PLAY THIS GAME THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYED BY MAJOR LEAGUERS?
    Oh, so they got the extra shootout point. Well pin a rose on me. It was preposterous that it should have gone to a shoot out.

    WHEN WHEN WHEN OH LORD?

  24. All i can say is when i feel its appropriate to spend money on a shirt again, it will be a Nash shirt – guy is awesome.

    Quick question Carp: did Nash get first star because of that journalistic tendency to put GWG as #1 star instead of the player name, or were they genuine votes?

  25. If the referees are able to see slight hooks and slashes or high sticks that happen in milliseconds, or offsides by fractions of a centimeter, how can they not see guys leaving their feet to hit? It’s the one thing that’s always sickened me about Ocechkins game, and if Lucics last night would/could/should have led to a concussion it would a shame worse than the lockout. Its in the rule book. Players know they’re not supposed to do it. 2 for charging, 5 for charging, there’s the gate. Is this thing on? Stripes? Shanny? Gary?

  26. This team is complete and utter amateur-hour. What a bunch of no-talent, worth-less clowns who know nothing about holding a lead and even less about being professional hockey players. I’m sick and tired of these “professionals” littering the ice with their lack of skill and lack of guile – I’d rather watch “Barefoot Contessa” any day over this Mickey-Mouse squad.

  27. Didn’t read last nights posts and this was probably said. Good 58 minute effort last night but why are our players floundering on the ice to block shots? Good point with Staal Carp but I saw that too much.

  28. Crying about the shootout is passe already, give it up Carp. It’s boring. Boring in the same way ties were. Do you not remember sitting at a game watching the players play for the tie? Then watching them play another five minutes for the tie? Now you’re suggesting I can spend $50+ a ticket at a minimum, add in some overpriced food/drink and parking for a boring tie. I’ll take the shootout any day of the week.

    Go watch a hockey practice at any level and see if there is a point where shooters go one-on-one with the goalie. It happens every practice and at every rink or pond out there. A shootout is about as pure a hockey play as it gets. Stop the whining, it’s not good copy.

  29. A win is a win. I can’t even imagine what this blog would be today if we had lost in over time or the BCATHGE

    Do you change any positions after going 3-0?

    I’m not sure that I do. They went 4-4 on the penalty kill, but only by a second on the last one.

    Carp I thought Cally’s line got extra shifts in the third period? I didn’t see it as a short bench. Maybe in overtime, but I don’t blame Torts for rotating Nash and Gabby in trying to get the win in OT.

  30. Yev Kassem February 12th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
    The Rangers have not had an impact player the likes of Rick Nash, since…dare I say it, Mark Messier and Brian Leetch.

    I said that last night before he hit the post and before that SICK shootout move.

    You knew he was good before he got here. You saw the highlights on youtube. But, I had no idea what a complete and impactful player Rich Nash would be. When he starts burying the puck (AND HE WILL!) and finishing on his chances; he has MVP potential.

    What other guys do you remember playing with his size that have as soft hands?

  31. Way to have your personal feelings for players present….
    Girardi was far from “a monster” last night – several glaring giveaways for scoring chances..
    And, in those last two minutes – up by two and then one, ice the damn puck, don’t play with little chips around the boards. You have a time out left, ice the puck and live to fight another day.
    Boyle is not better than anyone from last night’s game – he can’t skate, can’t handle the puck, is not physical for his size. And, don’t tell me about penalty killing. We are fine killing penalties with what we have!
    Miller was fine last night, too. He was no more-no less out of place than anyone else on the tam last night. We know you like Boyle, but he doesn’t bring what Miller does when playing alongside Callahan and Kreider – and this team is built around fast forwards (something no one can ever say Boyle is)…

  32. maven,
    they missed Boyle in those last 2 minutes.
    JJP,
    are you ok with the loser point? are you ok with some games being worth 3 points, and some being worth 2?

  33. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    Carp – serious question here.

    The Boyz have had a number of defensive breakdowns and missed coverages this season so far. Thanks to Mr. Hanky, they haven;t all wound up in the net.

    But, my question is – do you see, overhear or sense that this is the result of a new, slightly different defensive strategy…meaning, playing ceratin percentages at the risk of leaving a man open. Or is it just a mind freeze by some of the guys?

  34. It’s amazing how the NHL thinks they are getting it right. But Lucic leaves his feet and gives Nash a shot to the head. Then Nash puts his sticks on Lucic’s stick and get a hooking penalty. I hate that stick on stick call. It is so bogus, while Lucic’s hit was clearly a penalty. It drives me nuts! So many calls in today’s NHL are pansification and then they miss the legitimate ones.

  35. Czechthemout!!! on

    Three points for regulation and OT win, 1 point for shootout win. Zero points for a loss. Thats the best way to award points.

  36. I like the shootout….when NYR wins!!

    I’d prefer continuous OT, but I’m guessing that’s not even an option, huh?

    It’s nice to get the two points, but that’s not a satisfying win at all. Blowing a three goal lead in the third, two goals in the final two minutes??? Felt like a throwback to the Renney days. If this was the playoffs, NYR lose that game, barring some unforeseen incident. Rough loss for the Bruins, cause they sure as hell deserved the win.

    Two blown leads against them. The good news is, twice in a row, they’ve been able to take a multiple goal lead against one of the best teams in the league. Just gotta figure out how to fuggin keep it! Lots of time to get that figured out!

  37. Czech,
    all the games should be worth the same amount of points. I don’t like this idea, but, 3 points for regulation win, 2 for OT or shootout win, and 1 point for OT or shootout loss.

  38. I’d feel worse if the final two goals were conceded while 5-on-5 slightly earlier. Yes, they sat back too much too early, but still a bit freakish to conceded two with the goalie pulled. Don’t necessarily see it as a major cause for concern.

  39. Agree the system now isn’t “fair” but why do games have to be worth a certain amount of total points? They haven’t been in Europånsy football for the last 30 years.

  40. OK,
    so just go by wins and losses. no points. winning pct, like baseball, and basketball do.

  41. Here we go: first shootout of the season for ya boys and OT gripes immediately come out. Nothing’s gonna change. It’s fun to debate, but at this point, I feel it’s not worth my breath to discuss something that won’t happen unless Bettman steps down and Messier takes over as commish.

    What it all comes down to is this: the league is a joke, unfortunately, this joke is less Seinfeld and more Banya. The shootout? It’s the worst, Jerry, the worst!

  42. Good morning, boneheads!

    The mood since last night on the blog is what one would expect after they blew a 3 goal lead. But let’s not forget that they were a better team for the first 50 min. Better goaltending, frustrated the Bruins defensively, and were very opportunistic, using their skills and speed- something they didn’t have last year. This is against one of the better teams in EC, on their ice. The Bruins didn’t have a bad game either, the Rangers were better. As tough as Bruins’ defense is, they have difficulties covering fast and skilled forwards. It showed yesterday.

    Boston is a tough team, that’s how they’re built throughout. They are tough playing against just anyone in the league. Adding Bickel yesterday wouldn’t do much. If Sather decides to match their toughness in the playoffs, it would take a complete overhaul. Improving PP is a better way to go.

    I have no problems with Miller being a bit lost last night, if there is a game you expect him to be lost, this was it. But you can’t say he was intimidated by physical play. He wasn’t. There was a play during 3rd when he beat Boychuk to the puck using his speed, and then won the physical battle against him using his strength. The kid should stay.

    This team is coming together, folks. It’s getting its identity. Slowly, but surely. With kids in the lineup. If I were a Boston fan last night, thinking this was the game to make a statement against possible PO opponents, I would be more worried than satisfied with getting 1 point.

  43. Lucic favorite non Ranger, used to be Orpick, used to be Gilbert Perrault… oh nevermind. But the guy is a beast

  44. ilb,
    I agree with most of what you had to say. I do think Boston would be an awfully tough matchup for them in the playoffs. very deep, and physical.

  45. I think it is going to take a little while longer for the team to play better team defense. There is no doubt there not as good as last year when it comes to team defense.

  46. bull dog- matching them physically is a long shot, you’d have to change too many players. The option is to out-skill them, and out-skate. The Rangers appear to have that going for them. At the end of the day- I’ll take Hank vs Rask any day of the week.

  47. Morning all,

    ilb – your assessment of the last night’s game and the team in general is pretty much spot on.

    In particular the speed factor, which has improved dramatically this season. But the grind needs to come. To out-skill is one thing, to outwill is another entirely. The Rangers have to clamp down harder in games like this. But they were clearly the better team for most of the match.

  48. I think what i like about Miller is his attitude. When he makes a mistake or is outplayed he does not mope. He looks to improve right away. His second goal came right after a giveaway by him that led to a breakaway. Last night he looked overwhelmed early . Later on, he was slamming Bruins every chance he got. Gotta love it.

  49. I’m sure they will get tougher, and play with more grit. They have enough size and personnel. It’s a mindset.

  50. Kenny Albert Rules! on

    Even though the Rangers had gotten a 3-0 lead last night, there is still much room for improvement; especially with the Richards and Gaborik line. Bring on the Fishsticks tomorrow. Cya guys at noon!

  51. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Having an intermission to x and o a minute thirteen 5 on 3, you expect something less adismal.

    I thought the kids played ok. McD is going to be Norris finalist once he antes up some offense. He had a beautiful play in the first period behind his goal and a Bruin in his face… He softly played the puck off the base off the cage back to himself and off he went – problem solved. It was subtle but incredible.

  52. Carp and I need to have a serious conversation. I lecture med students every Wednesday afternoon. Can’t charp and lecture, dammit!

  53. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Carp – as a ranger fan I like the Bettman point as the odds are tilted in the rangers’ favor. Why shut the door on getting that extra point?

  54. 13) Fitting that the winner came off the stick of Ryan Callahan, isn’t it always? The problem of playing Callahan with the kids, Miller and Chris Kreider, is when the coach takes the kids out of the rotation in the third period, he risks losing Callahan. And now John Tortorella is going to have to make some decisions about Miller and Kreider.

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    The decision is easy. Captain Callahan is not a 3rd line player and Taylor Pyatt is not a second line player. Swapsies anyone?

  55. I’m with bull dog. Derek Stepan is the #1 Star. He played almost 26 Minutes. He was the first line Centre and led the team in ice time. He was also solid on Faceoffs.

  56. Bull dog, I’d prefer a three point system as it inately feels more fair to me but it doesn’t really matter since everyone plays under the same rules.

    Taking last year’s record and doing the math under the old system – one playoff team in the East would have changed and one in the West. Big deal. We’re talking a handful of points separting the last spot versus ninth usually and you can typically point to a bad bounce or something during the season just as easily as you could say ‘we didn’t win a shootout’ for why a team didn’t make the playoffs.

    The reality is there were 180 games that went to a shootout last year. I’d personally rather watch my team in a shootout for 12 games a year vs 12 games that end in a tie, particularly if it doesn’t really impact who goes to the playoffs.

  57. So Carp, when you say that the line is unfortunately the no. 1 line are you just referring to the fact that Richards and Gaborik haven’t been consistent? I wouldn’t argue that but i’ll say this-
    If Mc D was standing about 12 inches to his left in OT last night we would be discussing the sweet pass from Richards for the OT winner. That was a great deflection 27 made. Just went wide (maybe wider than it looked on TV )

  58. Stepan and Hagelin are both going to be fine. They struggled to start, fought through it and now they’re both factors in games that the “stars” aren’t always at their best. In general most of these guys are starting to look like they’re in mid season form now. ESPECIALLY Lundqvist who I thought played a helluva game up until those last two goals in the 3rd which weren’t all his fault.

  59. there’s a simple way to end the 3 point game debate. very simple in fact. GET RID OF THE SHOOT OUTS.

  60. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    not for nuttin, but we have blown two big leads against the B’s…they’re a great team, so it’s no surprise that they like to come back in games, BUT, I wonder if last year’s squad better withstands the flurry. Hey, we got four points off them this year and they got four points off us, but we gave them at least one of those points. Or did they TAKE those points themselves?

  61. I think the goals that were let in were the fault of our Defense, which was the same as last year. It’s the same thing Wicky and I constantly complain about. Clear the Darn crease. Take the Man!

    If you don’t do that then you leave the possibility that someone will use their balance and hands to get a shot off. It burned us twice here.

  62. Kenny Albert Rules! on

    Agreed Manny. I constantly yell at my TV regarding Staal’s inability to clear the crease so Hank can see the darn puck.

  63. I wish Nash had punched Lucic in the back of the head instead of taking a hooking penalty, get your moneys worth at least Man I hate Lucic and Marchand! Lucic should have gotten another 2 for slashing McD after high sticking him and how does Marchand get away with all the BS he does on the ice.

  64. I know, Kenny. CLEAR THE DARN CREASE. Knock people down. Move them. Be strong.

    Staal is generally terrific but he is definitely not as effective around the net. The guy that is proving to be good in that area is McBust. And hopefully Mcllrath will join him. They can be the “McPair” and they can annihilate anyone cherry-picking or driving on our goalie.

  65. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    don’t forget that after Lou Cheech whacked McD to goad him into the box, he also called McD a p*ssy. McD was smart in no reprisal, but I fear that Lou Cheech may be right that we now have a team of peaceniks. If only Bickel was a better hockey player – he would bring the ruckus on a nightly basis

  66. If Carp can do that whole summary without mentioning Gabby or Richards, Rangers have a problem brewing.

  67. I wonder what they do with Bickel on a daily basis to at least make him a useful guy. Training/Coaching wise I mean.

  68. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    Imagine a line of Nash, Lou Cheech and Night Train Simmonds.

    Cue the Homer Simpson head tilt and drool sound

  69. last night was one the heart cant stomach. the ups and downs were just too much. thankfully they got the two pts in what would have been a del zaster of a loss, one that could have lingered. and if there is a team to blow a 3 goal lead to and give up a point to its the bruins who will prob be the #1 or 2 seed and run away with northeast division.

    even though from 10 min mark to last 2 mins the rangers seemed to be okay you still need to be playing with the puck more and not constantly defend. we escaped del zaster enjoy it

  70. Yes Eddie. That little play by McD was fantastic. That guy is fun to watch. MDZ also made some good plays last night, I have to say. Girardi seemed like he was fighting the puck … he shanked a close in shot on the PP, and then he let it get by him on the point later.

  71. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    Does an appearance on “Beginnings” curse the guys like a Wheaties box or the SI cover?

  72. Man, if Nash punched Lucic (and let’s go with punching him face to face and not some Todd Bertuzzi on Steve Moore style cheap shot) then Nash would be out with a concussion. Which would suck.

    I really don’t think Lucic is that bad. I would take him on my team ANY DAY. As Duberstein says, Cue the Homer Simpson head tilt and drool sound.

    The guy pushes the envelope and is a pest. He also has the size and skills to back it up against anyone in the league. He’s a beast.

  73. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    Manny is right. Lou Cheech is actually a Lycan from the Underworld series.

    Kate Beckinsale in leather? Re-cue the Homer Simpson head tilt and drool sound

  74. That line of Krechi horton lucic would be our 3rd or 4th line. Boston’s team is full of scrubs id NEVER want as Rangers. That trio maybe good in Boston but on any other club they would all suck. I honestly think a Devils line would be more inticing.

  75. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    What looks to be a dark piece of soaking of soaking wet underwear just went flying by my window heading out over the pacific…. Aiming my binoculars on it – I saw “rask’s jock” printed in frilly pink letters.

    Sick Sick move by Nasher

  76. Milan Lucic can leave his skates to hit the Rangers star player, possibly giving him a concussion and there is not one person on this team who can answer the bell against Lucic.

    The Rangers are much too soft. I can’t believe I am saying this because last year it was the Rangers that were pushing other teams around.

    How on earth did this happen? Losing Brandon Prust, Fedotenko (who never fought), John Mitchel (who never fought) and Brandon Dubinsky (who never won a fight outside of Mike Richards).

    This team badly needs some snarl on the back line, line a John Erskine, someone who will eat another players head for even glaring at our star players. And we need a forward who can dance. We have no response to the other teams taking liberties with our players. ZERO!

    The Rangers are continually pushed around and I am really at a loss for words on how we have become a soft team after being a “tough” team in the last few years.

    Something will need to give and the Rangers will have to trade someone to get some toughness on this team, because it is a glaring weakness that teams like Boston can exploit.

  77. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    The way Nash De-Briefed Rask reminds me of Hansel’s walk off move in Zoolander….. Picked those panties clean right off…

  78. I think the list of “Players I would love to have on my team” would actually end up being more players than it takes to field a team. Marchand is on it, ORR. I agree.

  79. ILB2001

    I also would prefer to have Lundqvist over Rask…..but I would also like to have the shots
    that Rask had to handle over the ones Lundqvist had to cope with.

  80. addressing toughness they had rupp and bickel but both are a liability out there. what do want them do keep rupp and play bickel. these guys are worthless.

    i agree they need some toughness a big 5-6 def that has size but HE HAS TO BE ABLE TO SKATE TOO. not easy to have size and skate

  81. Why is Lundqvist or Rask even a discussion? Dudes are not even in the same universe (Not the one Bryzgalov lives in). Rask is on a 1-year deal to prove himself. He’s been a backup until now.

    Hank = Vezina

  82. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    If you ask Rask, in order to bask, in a goalie mask, did rick Nash, show a dash, of incredible flash, with that move, in a groove, it would behoove, was truly sick, no goal stick, no glove hand, rubberband, final stand, it’s a wonderland

    Boyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  83. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    If I am starting a new franchise….

    And with the first pick in the first round, the three eddies select forward mike Rupper.

  84. Yea Vogs, lets trade Nash and piss away young cheap talent so we can get the likes of Mitchell, Prust, and Dubinsky back. Hey scoreboard, in three games Rangers beat the Bs twice. This team didn’t lose to NJ last year due to toughness, lost due to scoring. Would have swept Ottawa if there was scoring. This squad is now capable of scoring. But I like the stable of Hags, Krieder, Stepan, and JT. Philly can keep Simmons’s and ride off after game 48. This team already has the toughest Guy in the league, he wears the C, and his toughness doesn’t get him in the box, fined or suspended like Lucic does/should. Full disclosure, I’d trade Richards or any of the 4th liners for Cal clutterbuck though.

  85. _Any team that overcomes a 0-3 deficit in a period deserves the win in my book_

    If they get to 4-3, then they deserve the win. If not, they deserve a point, in my book.

  86. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    That was a furious comeback, in any book. I’m sure the handful of B’s fans enjoyed the snot out of it for about 10 minutes

  87. Carp, growing up with the Rangers in the same era as you, I honestly hated ties!!!! I mean, except when the Rangers would tie a game in the last minute but back in those days, the score was usually tied from the second period til the final buzzer. Having said that, I too am not a fan of the breakaway contest, even though it got the Rangers an extra point last night. I wouldn’t mind the tie being returned to the game, after a a 5 minute OT. Also, in watching last night’s game and seeing the fourth line play, the first thing I thought of was, Rupp doesn’t play that much if he was still here. This fourth line seems like it can hold it’s own and not hurt the club. I’m in favor of rolling four lines to keep our top guys fresh!! Disagree with you about riding the horses because come playoff time, they are exhausted; that goes for top 6 forwards and only playing 4 D-men.

  88. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    The only ties I like are clip-ons.

    They should play until someone scores. No rest between 3rd and OT periods

  89. I swear, you come on here and make a comment and all of a sudden I’m advocating for trading away Rick Nash. Learn how to hold a conversation without putting words in other peoples mouths. Or perhaps you just enjoy agitating because you have nothing better to do with your day and enjoy arguing on Ranger blog boards.

    Sheesh.

    Take your pen Klompus and go write upside down!

  90. Any player from the Boston Bruins can go take a flying … The year Nash was taken #1 overall , whom did we end up with? It don’t matter cuz we have the top pick right now. Now . We did NOT have to pick Nash cuz Columbus was saving him for us. Same can be said with Gaborik. The Rangers don’t have to lose every game like the Penguins to land NUMBER ONE draft picks. Just saying.

  91. 50% with you Manny. Love Simmonds, Lucic crosses the line from “would love him” to “he’s an ass that I’m not sure I could root for”. Cheaper than a guy his size and strength needs to be and is a girl hitter.

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