Rangers at Devils tonight

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Pre-game notes courtesy of the NYR:

NEW YORK RANGERS at NEW JERSEY DEVILS
Tuesday, Feb. 5, 7:00 p.m.
Prudential Center – Newark, NJ
Rangers: 4-4-0 (8 pts)
Devils: 4-1-3 (11 pts)

TONIGHT’S GAME:
The Rangers will face-off against the New Jersey Devils at Prudential Center (7:00 p.m. — TV: MSG Network; Radio: ESPN 98.7), in an Atlantic Division matchup. The Blueshirts currently rank fourth in the Atlantic Division standings, and rank ninth in the Eastern Conference, with a record of 4-4-0 (8 pts). The Rangers enter the contest having defeated the Tampa Bay Lightning, 3-2, on Saturday at Tampa Bay Times Forum for their first road win of the season. New York has now won four of their last six contests. The Devils enter the contest with a 4-1-3 (11 pts) record to rank fifth in the Eastern Conference, and have lost four of their last five games (1-1-3). Following the contest, the Rangers will return home to face-off against the New York Islanders on Thursday, Feb. 7, at Madison Square Garden (7:00 p.m.), in an Atlantic Division matchup.

 

RANGERS vs. DEVILS:
All-Time: 101-84-27-6 overall (56-30-20-2 at home; 45-54-7-4 on the road)

  • 2013: Tonight is the first of four meetings this season, and the first of two meetings at Prudential Center.
  • Last Season: New York was 3-2-1 overall (2-1-0 mark at home; 1-1-1 mark on the road). Four of their six meetings were decided by two goals or less. The Rangers’ penalty kill was 16-18 (88.9%) with one shorthanded goal in the season series. Carl Hagelin led all skaters with six assists, eight points and a plus-five rating in six games. Derek Stepan (two goals, four assists) and Marian Gaborik (two goals, three assists) tied Hagelin for the team-high with two goals apiece, while Dan Girardi led all series defensemen in scoring with three points (one goal, two assists). Henrik Lundqvist was 3-2-0 with a 1.41 GAA, .940 Sv% and one shutout, and Martin Biron was 0-0-1 with a 2.77 GAA and .897 Sv%.
  • The Rangers and Devils have been separated by two goals or less in 13 of their last 17 meetings
  • The Rangers have registered a point in 13 of their last 19 games against the Devils (11-6-2 over the span), dating back to a 3-0 win at Madison Square Garden on Mar. 30, 2009
  • New York is tied for 20th in the NHL with a 1-2-0 (2 pts) record on the road; New Jersey ranks 14th in the NHL with a 2-0-1 (5 pts) mark at home
  • The Rangers are 1-3-0 vs. the Atlantic Division this season; the Devils are 3-1-1 vs. the Atlantic Division this season
  • New York lists one former Devil on their roster: Arron Asham (2007-08)
  • New Jersey lists no former Rangers on their roster

INDIVIDUAL CAREER LEADERS vs. DEVILS:

  • Henrik Lundqvist — 41 GP, 25-11-5, 1.79 GAA, 6 SO
  • Martin Biron — 31 GP, 8-15-2-3, 3.14 GAA, 2 SO
  • Brad Richards — 38 GP, 5-28-33
  • Marian Gaborik — 24 GP, 8-12-20
  • Carl Hagelin — 6 GP, 2-6-8
  • Dan Girardi — 35 GP, 1-13-14

SPECIAL TEAMS:

  • Power Play: The Rangers did not tally a goal in two power play attempts (4:00) on Saturday at Tampa Bay. New York is tied for 28th overall (3-30, 10.0%) and is tied for 24th on the road (1-11, 9.1%). The Rangers are 1-4 (5:15) in five-on-three situations (last – 1/24 at PHI), and 0-0 (0:00) when four-on-three. Shorthanded goals allowed (0).
  • Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts surrendered one goal to the Lightning in one attempt (1:06) on Saturday at Tampa Bay. New York ranks 19th overall (29-37, 78.4%) and is tied for 12th on the road (9-11, 81.8%). The Rangers are 2-2 (3:12) in three-on-five situations (last –1/29 vs. PHI), and 2-2 (1:57) when three-on-four (last – 1/31 vs. PIT). Shorthanded goals for (1): 1/20 vs. PIT (Nash).
  • Four-on-Four: New York did not skate in a four-on-four situation on Saturday at Tampa Bay, and are now minus-1 in eight four-on-four situations (7:49) this season. Four-on-four goals for (1): 1/23 vs. BOS (Gaborik). Four-on-four goals allowed (2): 1/20 vs. PIT (Letang); 1/23 vs. BOS (Horton).

SINCE 2007-08
The Rangers are 20-8-3 overall (11-4-1 at home; 9-4-2 on the road) against the Devils since 2007-08, dating back to a 2-0 win on Oct. 25, 2007. Henrik Lundqvist is 20-8-2 with a 1.96 GAA, .929 Sv% and six shutouts in 30 games over the span.

HEAD-TO-HEAD
Henrik Lundqvist has faced-off against Martin Brodeur in 34 career regular season games, posting a record of 23-6-5 with a 1.73 GAA, .935 Sv% and five shutouts over the span.

EARLY ADVANTAGE
The Rangers are undefeated when scoring the first goal this season, posting a record of 2-0-0 in those contests, compared to 2-4-0 when allowing the game’s first goal. The Blueshirts have posted a 2-0-0 mark when leading after the first and second periods.

SHOOTING GALLERY
The Blueshirts are undefeated when out-shooting their opponents, posting a record of 3-0-0 in those contests. The Rangers are 1-4-0 when being out-shot by their opponent.

DOING THE DIRTY WORK
The Rangers rank second in the league in hits (247) and are tied for 14th in blocked shots (115) this season. Brian Boyle leads the Rangers and is tied for fifth in the NHL with 31 hits. Dan Girardi and Ryan McDonagh are tied for the team lead and 29th in the NHL with 17 blocked shots apiece. Rangers captain Ryan Callahan was tied for second in the league in hits (27) and sixth among NHL forwards in blocked shots (nine) at the time of his injury on Jan. 29.

GABY’S TRICK
Marian Gaborik posted his 14th career hat trick, and fifth as a Ranger, in a 4-3 overtime win against the Boston Bruins on Jan. 23 at Madison Square Garden. He moved into a tie with Adam Graves, Andy Bathgate and Ron Duguay for 10th on the Rangers’ all-time hat trick list and, according to the Elias Sports Bureau, is now tied with Dallas’ Jaromir Jagr for second most career hat tricks among active NHL players. Gaborik’s game-winning goal 0:27 into overtime was his seventh tally and eighth point in the last six games against Boston.

THE HOT LIST:

  • Henrik Lundqvist — has held opponents to two or fewer goals in three of his last four contests; is 3-2-0 with a 2.20 GAA and a .919 Sv% in his last five games, including a 2-1-0 mark with a 2.00 GAA and .918 Sv% in his last three
  • Rick Nash — seven points (two goals, five assists) in the last eight games, including four points (one goal, three assists) in the last four contests
  • Michael Del Zotto — six points (two goals, four assists) in the last seven games, including four points (two goals, two assists) in the last four contests
  • Derek Stepan — five points (one goal, four assists) in the last seven games
  • Marc Staal — four points (one goal, three assists) in the last six games

MILESTONES IN SIGHT:

  • Michael Del Zotto — 5 points from 100th NHL career
  • Steve Eminger — 4 points from 100th NHL career
  • Matt Gilroy — 4 games from 200th NHL career

INJURIES:

  • Michael Sauer (concussion, 12/5/11) — 8
  • Chris Kreider (ankle, 1/25) — 4
  • Ryan Callahan (shoulder, 1/29) — 2

Total Man-Games Lost: 16

RECENT TRANSACTIONS:

  • Jan. 25 — Recalled forward Benn Ferriero from Connecticut (AHL)
  • Feb. 4 — Acquired forwards Darroll Powe and Nick Palmieri from Minnesota for forward Mike Rupp
  • Feb. 4 — Recalled forwards J.T. Miller and Brandon Mashinter from Connecticut (AHL)
  • Feb. 4 — Assigned forward Benn Ferriero to Connecticut (AHL)

 

 

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  1. Lauri Korpikoski was named 3rd star of Phoenix-Wild game, including a goal, 4 shots and 3 hits…and what was the name of that speedster we traded him for? Kelly Chase of NHL Tonight put the Rangers in his top 5 in the power rankings…I’m on optimist, too. Looking forward to a follow-up win tonight. Will be interesting to watch JT Miller, if he plays.

  2. I’m hoping Miller gets a start on the 3rd line, i dont think a cold and splintered derriere is going to teach the kid anything

  3. Enver Lisin – currently plying his trade with Metallurg in the KHL and has amassed totals of 25 and 14 pts in 2 seasons – which confirms that hea really was just the Russian Luis Mendoza

  4. stranger nation on

    Not sure if Miller is given shut down responsibilities on 3rd line v Debs.

    More likely Hags goes to down to third, Miller to 2nd or Miller on 4th.

  5. we should find out soon once the practice lines are posted by one of the beat writers on twitter.
    Miller is a big lad (6’2″ 212lbs) and plays a 2-way game so if Torts likes the look of his skating and awareness i wouldnt be surprised to see him on the 3rd line rather than 4th

  6. stranger nation on

    Would not put Pyatt on Line 3 unless you move Hags down there also. His ‘deliberate’ skating style paired with Boyle makes for an ineffective (slow) fore-check. He is good at anticipating the play and winning 50/50 battles along boards – perfect match with Hags or another speedy skater who forces the Dman to get rid of it early.

    That and the Tim Kerr impersonation in front of the crease.

  7. Cross Check Charlie on

    Kovie- shouldn’t that be:

    POWE – right in the kisser.

    So, the Ferrari has been garaged. Maybe Torts doesn’t know how to handle a finely oiled machine. lol

    Let’s Go Rangers

    Miller pulls a Stepan. Hat trick in his first game!

  8. stranger nation on

    HEAD-TO-HEAD
    Henrik Lundqvist has faced-off against Martin Brodeur in 34 career regular season games, posting a record of 23-6-5 with a 1.73 GAA, .935 Sv% and five shutouts over the span.

    Marty is Hank’s female dog.

  9. I hope we don’t take any penalties tonight, but if we do, I am excited to see POW! get into action with the PK. I assume he and Boyle will be one unit with Dr. Halpern and Stepan/Hagelin on the other. Really does clear up a lot of dirty work from Monster Nash’s plate as well as Callahan.

    Maybe Tort goes back to the passive box PK now that he has another legit PK’er.

  10. I don’t know if Torts will be able to keep another person with JT initials similar to his. Confusing. I bet he already hates Miller….:-)

  11. I thought that JT Miller, a/k/a John Tort-Miller, was just a child of Tort from an estranged ex-lover. Thus, John Tort-Miller was just a love child.

  12. Doodie Machetto on

    Some good Bobby Orr discussion in the last thread. My favorite footnote about his career is Harry Howell’s quote after winning the Norris “I’m glad I won it now, because it’s going to belong to that Orr from now on.” Prophetic.

  13. Just to clear something up from last night about the Palmieri boys (who aren’t related), they are BOTH from NY.

    Nick Palmieri (23) is from Clinton, NY and Kyle Palmieri (22) is from Smithtown, NY.

  14. No way. JT miller is up here to play. Doesn’t he have to get on the ice for that whole Entry Level Contrac thing?

  15. So you’d rather have Miller come up and not play? Or in another way to look at it, you’d like to have Bickel to continue to play?

  16. stranger nation on

    not sure how much they change the top 3 lines after last game

    4th line – Mash – Miller – Bickels

  17. Haha. Exactly, CT. JT Miller is up here to get out on the ice and get a taste of the NHL. He earned it. Also, Miller is not playing 4th line minutes.

    JT Miller > Stuart and his Bickels (unless we are referring to punching Cam Janssen)

  18. *OVER* @CCCP@. He’s not here to play less than eight (8) Minutes. Put the over/under at something reasonable like 7:40.

  19. Rangers are going to get steamrolled tonight. With all the injuries and the AHL guys coming up (Miller included), no way they win this. Will be a good learning experience though for Miller.

  20. Some googling led me to see that Mike Rupp was a 9th overall pick by the Islanders in 1998… How the hell did that happen?

  21. Monster Nash-Richards-Gaborik
    HaGOONlin-Stepan-Pyatt
    Big Rig Boyle-Dr. Halpern-J-Tort Miller
    Monster Mashinter-POW!-Asham

    Stahl-McBust
    Girardi-Del Zaster
    Gilroy-Strahlman

    *****************

    And of course the top guys will eventually play themselves onto and off of the line they begin on.

  22. I’m shocked that he got picked that high too Lev. But Rupp probably got picked early because, especially in 1998, a man of that humaingous stature, that (at the time) could skate, that is hard to pass up.

  23. _Some googling led me to see that Mike Rupp was a 9th overall pick by the Islanders in 1998… How the hell did that happen?_

    He got drafted this high because of his personality, apparently. Oh and plus he’s big.

  24. stranger nation on

    Powe should play with 3rd line and Ass-ham moves down to 4th – thought Halpern played well on 3rd line last game, skating much better, and is another FO guy if Boyle inevitably gets thrown out of FO.

    comes down to Bicks or Mash on line 4 for the Barch dance.

  25. stranger nation on

    Mike Rupp was a 9th overall pick by the *Islanders* in 1998

    that is why he was picked 9th

  26. Yea. Sorry. I didn’t mean to break them up either. I usually just type my defensive pairings in a huge rush because they are so good it barely matters.

  27. Manny

    i see you put a lot of hope on JTM… i wont let you cry on my shoulder after tonight’s game, if you know what i mean ;)

  28. Manny – The Lindros Syndrome. Teams tried to find the next Lindros for over a decade to match that new mold in the NHL of a big strong power forwards who could fight, hit, and be offense monsters. Why else do you think Hugh Jessiman was drafted in the 1st round (outside of the fact that Slats was golfing)?

    So I’d assume they saw a young player with a big body who they were hoping could grow into that kind of player, which everyone found out was impossible since there was only one Eric Lindros. Plus he ended up getting drafted 2 years later by the Devils in the 3rd round anyway when it proved that he didn’t turn into the offensive player the Isles were hoping for.

  29. BTW, the only chance we have tonight is if Miller scored 6 goals in his debut. He’ll do it. I have faith in him…

  30. E3 (pimp's angel) stay thirsty my freinds on

    Tom Pot – hardest hitting D man I ever saw. Dude was a monster. His fan club – the pot heads- were always dazed after his play.

  31. Kenny Albert Rules! on

    Only 3 days apart from the real Kenny Albert, today is my birthday. Let’s get a victory boys.

  32. stranger nation on

    Derbils get Gomez and Gionta, Isles get Rupp and Nielsen and we got Manny and Copley – wonder who won a cup within the next 5 years…

    Red Wings get the steal of the draft with Pavel – Round 7

    7 New York Rangers Manny Malhotra C Guelph 862 108 170 278 -19 421
    9 New York Islanders Mike Rupp C Erie 565 53 41 94 -30 765
    26 New Jersey Devils Mike Van Ryn D U. of Michigan 353 30 99 129 5 260
    27 New Jersey Devils Scott Gomez C Tri-City 908 169 519 688 37 582

    Round 2 NHL Scoring Stats NHL Goalie Stats
    36 New York Islanders Chris Nielsen RW Calgary 52 6 8 14 1 8
    37 New Jersey Devils Christian Berglund LW Farjestad Jr. 86 11 16 27 -6 42
    40 New York Rangers Randy Copley RW Cape Breton

    Round 3 NHL Scoring Stats NHL Goalie Stats

    66 New York Rangers Jason LaBarbera G Portland 163 0 2 2 0 10 163
    82 New Jersey Devils Brian Gionta RW Boston College 655 219 204 423 61 293

    Round 4 NHL Scoring Stats NHL Goalie Stats

    95 New York Islanders Andy Burnham RW Windsor
    96 New Jersey Devils Mikko Jokela D HIFK Helsinki 1 0 0 0 0 0
    105 New Jersey Devils Pierre Dagenais RW Rouyn-Noranda 142 35 23 58 0 58
    114 New York Rangers Boyd Kane LW Regina 31 0 3 3 -8 39

    Round 5 NHL Scoring Stats NHL Goalie Stats

    119 New Jersey Devils Anton But LW Torpedo Yaroslavl 2
    122 New York Rangers Patrick Leahy RW Miami University 50 4 4 8 -1 19
    123 New York Islanders Jiri Dopita C DS Olomouc 73 12 21 33 5 19
    131 New York Rangers Tomas Kloucek D Slavia Praha Jr. 141 2 8 10 -9 250
    143 New Jersey Devils Ryan Flinn LW Laval 31 1 0 1 0 84

    Round 6 NHL Scoring Stats NHL Goalie Stats

    155 New York Islanders Kevin Clauson D Western Michigan
    171 Detroit Red Wings Pavel Datsyuk C Yekaterinburg 740 243 485 728 214 188*
    172 New Jersey Devils Jacques Lariviere LW Moncton

    Round 7 NHL Scoring Stats NHL Goalie Stats

    180 New York Rangers Stefan Lundqvist RW Brynas Gavle
    182 New York Islanders Evgeny Korolev D London 42 1 4 5 -10 20
    199 New Jersey Devils Erik Jensen RW Des Moines (USHL)

    Round 8 NHL Scoring Stats NHL Goalie Stats

    207 New York Rangers Johan Witehall LW Leksand 54 2 5 7 -5 16
    209 New York Islanders Frederik Brindamour G Sherbrooke
    227 New Jersey Devils Marko Ahosilta C KalPa Kuopio

    Round 9 NHL Scoring Stats NHL Goalie Stats

    235 New York Rangers Jan Mertzig D Lulea 23 0 2 2 -5 8
    237 New York Islanders Ben Blais D Walpole (High-MA)
    242 New York Islanders Jason Doyle RW Sault Ste. Marie
    250 New York Islanders Radek Matejovsky RW Slavia Praha
    257 New Jersey Devils Ryan Held C Kitchener
    258 Philadelphia Flyers Sergei Skrobot D Dynamo-2 Moscow

  33. Nunzio Scoleri and Tony Scoleri would both be epically awesome handles to go by on here if anyone wants to steal one.

  34. @NYDNRangers@ Devils board anticipates *Stralman out,* Bickel on D, lines of Powe-Boyle-Halpern, Mashinter-Miller-Asham for #NYR

  35. That can’t be right. I thought Boyle was being moved to LW? Wasn’t that the plan? Strahlman is hurt?

  36. Hockey Hockey Hockey – Oye! Oye! Oye!

    Time for some OLD TiME Hockey!!!

    Side bets – what’s the over and under on fights tonight? 4-5-6 ????

    Does Miller get more than 6 minuts of ice time???

    Does the Monster Mash win his 1’st fight as a Ranger?

    Does Hank win another against Marty?

  37. They figured they’d need some extra bickells tonight I guess. Either that, or they want to make sure someone wins the opening face off.

  38. That cantbe performance based right?Stralman has been one of the better players….Datsyuk in 6th round? What a freaking steal.

  39. Miller should bounce between the 3rd and 4th line tonight.

    It would be nice to see him a shift or two with Hagelin and Stepan. But I’m sure Tort’s will put him in a couple of different spots to see what he has to offer.

    What a FIRST game to play. Against one of our Biggest Rivals.

    Just think if his 1’st goal is against …. MARTY!

  40. No way Strahlman would be out because of performance. He would have to have been hurt. I think he was limping a bit during the 3rd period of the Lightning game but I didn’t see anything about him missing practice or skates.

    I guess it’s wrong because its from a Devils board. Boyle is playing LW, not center, and as I have assumed, Miller is not playing 4th line.

  41. @KatieStrangESPN@ #NYR Both Callahan (shoulder) and Kreider (ankle) are out there as well for NYR. Callahan definitely out for tonight, *[THE] Kreider questionable*

    ************

    No mention about Strahlman being out. The Kreider questionable….hmmmm

  42. @AGrossRecord@ Stu Bickel wearing a red defenseman’s practice jersey at #NYR morning skate.

    *********************

    Playing over Gilroy (assuming Strahlman is OK)? Is it worth it for Bickel to play just so he can punch someone in the face and spend 17 Minutes in the Box?

  43. Gravy, Extra for Callahan... on

    Datsyuk was a steal at 171 overall in his draft, but Lundqvist was a bigger one at 205.

  44. guessing here but since boyle is being moved to LW the 3rd line probably will be miller at center with powe and boyle on wing.

  45. E3 pimp's angel on

    JT Miller is going to look at uncle daddy tonight and see how much bigger players are at this level.

  46. There is going to be a whole issue with lineups tonight. Tort is probably still mad about Peter TheBore getting that last minute goon lineup out there.

  47. E3 pimp's angel on

    I swear one of these games Marty is going to flop on the ice, the ice will break, the earth crack open, and Marty will find himself in China.

  48. E3 pimp's angel on

    I met Marty on Monday, it was my lucky bun day, you know what I mean…. We love him each weekday, each velvety cheek day, you what I mean…..Marty’s struggling inside his tights, big game waiting in my sights….. How could I leave this behind?

  49. Carp – there was a report.tweet from Pat Leonard saying the Devils expected Strahlman to be out tonight. No one here believed it so we got RIGHT to the bottom of it.

  50. Monster Mashinter is gone! Um…that has to mean that THE Kreider can play, right? I mean if Bickel is skating in a defensemans Jersey?

  51. which leaves the minimum 12 forwards with Bickel up front: Gaborik-Richards-Nash, Hagelin-Stepan-Pyatt, then some combos of Boyle, Halpern, Asham, Miller, Powe and Bickel.

  52. Yea, Carp. That’s my concern. We don’t have enough forwards if Bickel is skating in defenseman’s Jersey.

    Again, this could just be some mind play from Tort to stick it to Peter TheBore for his annoying lineup tactics.

  53. E3 pimp's angel on

    Chris Christie will be at the game but needs two sections………….He needs to be 180 degrees opposite Marty at all times for the obvious reason….

  54. Exactly, Carp. Remember. TheBore at home tonight so he gets the final say. Maybe Tort is trying to screw with him by putting Bickel on Defense and Callahan and The Kreider in full contact jerseys.

  55. Butabi brothers on

    Doug Butabi: You can take away our phones and you can take away our keys, but you can NOT take away our dreams.

    Steve Butabi: Yeah, because we’re, like, sleeping when we have them.

  56. I took “Devils board” to mean a line-up board in their room, rather than a worst blog on the internets message board.

    Maybe Strawhlman has been erased from the Devils’ minds after his try out with them last year? Surprised Lou Lam would ever let anyone from the outside see a line-up board in the room though. Thought he would have it covered up or have Chris Christie stand in front of it.

  57. why would stralman be out of lineup. i am traveling this week so is there an injury i didnt see. also bickel shouldnt be in over gilroy but we all know torts will put him in for toughness. dont agree with it but thats his call

  58. E3 pimp's angel on

    Doug Butabi – that was also the central theme in Solzhenitsyn’s “The First Circle”

  59. Rob in Beantown on

    GO GO POWE-R RANGERS!
    GO GO POWE-R RANGERS!

    am I the first to make that joke? I can’t be, right?

  60. E3 pimp's angel on

    It seems a new astronomical phenomena has been discovered….A Christie eclipse… The Gov goes outside and the world sees darkness.

  61. Butabi brothers on

    Steve Butabi: Good, how are you?

    Doug Butabi: About 8 o’clock, 8:15. Yeah, all the time.

    Steve Butabi: BMW.

    Doug Butabi: Right at sunset.

    Steve Butabi: Vanilla mostly.

  62. >> Kelly Chase of NHL Tonight put the Rangers in his top 5 in the power rankings…

    Another clueless analyst! I had a good laugh hearing him extol Rupp’s value on NHLN last night.

  63. This roster we’re putting out there tonight looks awful. Can’t wait!

    I really hope Kreider isn’t rushing himself back. Can’t wait for Callahan to get back either, although even after that, the team doesn’t have much depth at all at the forward position.

  64. Rob in Beantown on

    Do we know who’s playing tonight yet?

    Bickel, Gilroy, Miller, Powe in?
    Stralman, Eminger, Kreider likely out?

  65. Kreider-Miller-Boyle Could make for a sick 3rd line. Size-Speed-Skill!!! Pass-Shoot-Score

    This could happen TONIGHT!!!

    #MillerTime

  66. Gravy, Extra for Callahan... on

    tommy,

    Carp February 5th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    Mashinter back to the Whale, per Dan Rosen… was here in case Powe didn’t arrive in time.

  67. 4th line Powe-Halpren-Asham

    The Tort’s shuffle will be working tonight that’s for sure!!!

  68. Yes. Mashinter in the AHL + Bickel in a Defense Sweater = The Kreider playing. What a 3rd line that will make if it’s The Kreider and J-Tort Miller centre’d by Boyle. Their big brother.

  69. If I had to bet, Kreider will be up front, Bickel on defense (until he gets his 17 minutes of penalties against Barch), Gilroy scratched.

    And, yes, Miller between Boyle and Kreider works for me, with Halpern subbing for Kreider or Miller in defensive zone situations.

  70. That sounds great, Carp.

    Sorry about that Sioux. I didn’t see you were psyched about the 3rd line as well but earlier!

  71. stranger nation on

    Kreider with Miller and Boyle on one line puts a lot of defensive responsibilities on the 2 younguns – I am all for it – need to get our pups up here if and when ready especially a pivot in the middle.

    Who was the last 1st or 2nd line center drafted by the team?

  72. You mean, the one that turned out to actually be a first- or second-line center? You’re not counting Stepan and Anisimov, right?

    Geez. Turcotte?

  73. Carp when you write “Turcotte” you’re supposed to follow it with…”shoots it wide”…

    Don’t know why we’re discussing Rangers OR Devils. We need to talk more about the re-emergence of the NY Islanders.

  74. I have Manny Malholtra’s autograph on one of my jersey’s ala the back parking lot at Rye Playland. Too bad he was never going to amount to anything here…Right Coach Muckler????

  75. Good point on the defensive side. Will have to shuffle through the lines again. Swap Powe for Miller, and work him up later.

    Torts has lots to play with shuffle up and deal, let’s hope they click quick and score often.

  76. I’m just going to have J-Tort Miller sign my chest. I am not supporting the NHL by purchasing a $400 sweater!

  77. Sarge was quietly one of the most solid wingers this team has had in the 90s. . Kovalev got the spot light and the expectations that came along with it but Nemchinov was gave them more offense with 20-30 goal season year after year. And that was before they opened things up for goal scorers with the red line elimination etc..

  78. Centers who are home grown? orrrrr can I mention mid-30s Ray Ferraro as a decent 2nd line center? lol

    PS- shoulda said c/lw when speaking about Nemchinov

  79. No more late night sparring with E3. He’s bright as a daisy on the West Coast and I’m in NY, drunk on the moon and dead poets.

  80. stranger nation on

    Nemchinov was rock steady – amazing 2 way center – shutting down other teams top pivot and putting points on the board as well. That ’94 team centers – had Messier – Kovalev – Nemchinov – not too shabby down the middle.

    Selected by Rangers in Round 12 of 1990 NHL Entry Draft (No. 244 overall).

    Outside of Hank may be best value draft pick in the last 25 years

    Along with Kovalev, became the first Russian player to ever win the Stanley Cup.

  81. Gravy, Extra for Callahan... on

    JT Miller, 6-7 hours before his NHL debut: “I have been looking forward to this ever since -yesterday- I was a little kid”

  82. George Gordon Lord Byron, Manny. Yes, dat be the dude. If Winter’s here, can Spring be far behind? If Keats is here, can Shelley have a fat behind? Hockey and Iambic Pentameter.

  83. JT Miller is 6’7? This is the problem I have when I read only the first part of comments.

  84. Why don’t you work on correcting that link that goes nowhere instead of picking on me! BULLY!

  85. prediction: after loss of locker room leader and Stanley Cup winning goal scorer Mike Rupp, 2013 NY Rangers go winless the rest of the way

  86. “Pre….prediction. You’ll be calling me to ask if you can come and visit him before the month is out.” – Gavin

  87. Doodie Machetto on

    Say what you will about Jessiman, Brendl, Lundmark, etc. The worst ever Rangers draft pick was Ron Duguay, because Mike Bossy went two picks later.

  88. @KennyAlbert@ In fact, 30% of *Matt Gilroy’s* NHL goals (3 of 10) have come against Brodeur…all at The Rock…with 3 different teams

    **************************

    Bickle’s fight better be awesome!

  89. In the notes it was mentioned that there are no former Rangers on the (revolting) devilopments. I know he never played for the Rangers (or even had a contract) but couldn’t you call Zidlicky a former Rag? He was drafted by them and that’s enough for me.

  90. Am I the only one worried by the fact that our “depth” at forward includes a defenseman (2 actually, if you count Gilroy)?
    I don’t care if he can play there or not, Bickel’s job description is first and foremost a defenseman.
    Hopefully Pow-er Station and the call-ups can now render that move almost unnecessary.

  91. Evrockriser:

    No, you’re absolutely right. I really hope that Powe plays well because this land of make-believe where Matt Gilroy and Stu Bickel are forwards needs to stop

  92. Neither of them will be considered forwards when Capt. Callahan comes back and The Kreider is a solid player in the lineup. Then we will be OK. Who knows, maybe we will carry 13 forwards!

  93. Rob in Beantown on

    If Gilroy isn’t in the lineup tonight, fire Torts. You don’t need to have a Bellicheck-level mastery of statistics to understand he is a LOCK to score a hat trick against Brodeur

  94. It has Doodie.

    #MillerTime is going to be fun to watch!!!

    All this hype about the new guys. We tend to forget our top line is pretty good.

    We have the release of the KREIDER, the Monster-Nash, and Taste Great Less Filling debute tonight!!!

  95. Per Djoos (Stay thirsty, my friends) on

    Carp – i still cringe over the Zubov trade!

    Led the 94 cup team in scoring – a team stacke with Messier, Leetch, Graves, Larmer, Kovalev, etc….

  96. Found done bios of the 1998 draft prospects here: http://www.lcshockey.com/issues/101/101entrydraft.asp

    For Mike Rupp:

    “One of four American-born players who participated in the 1998 Top Prospects Game. Big specimen whose actual weight may be closer to 230 pounds. Just completed his first year of major junior hockey, one in which he was traded from Windsor to Erie for NHL first-round draft pick Jason Ward. Doesn’t have a lot of experience against top-flight competition, but has a heavy shot and can be a physical presence. ‘He battles his way to the net, where he works for his scoring opportunities’, said NHL Central Scouting, which ranked him 23rd among draft prospects.”

  97. I actually remember well when Rupp first came into the league and yeah some folks had him pegged to be the next John LeClair

    then they saw him play at the pro level and scaled back their projections radically

  98. . . . . 15 years later, a stanley cup champion goal scorer, and he is still playing!!! Hell of a career for Rupper!!!

  99. He did have a knack for the clutch, big spotlight style goals. Not that they were pretty or anything.

  100. he scored one in his career, albeit in the second period of the game

    unless you think scoring in January is massive

  101. scored in game on January 2 (don’t recall him making an appearance in the Spring, though) – didn’t score the game winner and certainly wasn’t wearing a 35 jersey that day. but yeah, he had a couple of goals.

    scored in 2nd period of Stanley Cup game 7, 10 years ago.

  102. oops forgot the 2 winter classic goals…… other than that we’re good!!!

    Actually he might help the Wild.

    Rangers win in this deal, for sure, money saved, better versatility for Torts. and a much needed Pruster replacement!!! on the penalty kill. Which in now at 78% something like 18th in the league. Yuck!

  103. you guys who call the players by nicknames, are you on the Rangers or close, personal friends with them

  104. Don’t be mean, Lloyd. I think that since we pour our hearts into the team it’s acceptable to use the same names that the reporters and players use to describe each other.

    I, however, prefer the nicknames that we make up.

  105. I still don’t like the idea of Miller on the 4th line. Gonna be tough for him to contribute when he’s not on the ice.

    Then again, with Rupp and Bickel off the 4th line, they do have some guys with some skill there now. Asham and Powe aren’t going to score many goals, but they do have the ability to hit the net.

  106. there was a whole thing here a week or so ago about how dumb the reporters sound when they say nonsense like, “Coach, what happened with Pruster tonight? Did he just not gel with Rupper or what?”

  107. Both sides are happy with the trade. But I think the WILD think they are getting the player Rupper was 2-3 years ago.

  108. I think we are too quick to forget – Rupp was/is well loved by his teammates. He won us the Outdoor Classic against Filthy. He was a consummate team-first player.

    No, he doesnt fly down the ice. No, he isn’t going to score like Giroux (yea, I said it) BUT… he was a Ranger and made the organization proud.

    This isn’t a rah-rah story…. but much like Wade Redden, cant we be happy for them? What did Wade do wrong? Signed a contract for too much money? Whom of us wouldnt be guilty of smiling and saying thank you were we so fortunate? Guy sat in the AHL and developed players and you never heard about him… because he simply did his job.

    Now for a fearless prediction with the removal of my Soapbox: Nash gets on the board… as does the Kreider with a third present off the stick of none other than McMonster. The fourth will come off of…. Staal’s stick. 4-2, possibly 4-3 victory for our boys in Blue.

  109. Must be tiring to have all the answers Harry’s friend – Pruster sounds silly but Rupper rhymes with supper so…. it’s got that going for it.

  110. eric, aren’t you only in your thirties? You’ve got a long way to go before you reach 700. I’m sure the journey will include many more business meetings as well.

  111. you people have created a mythology around Mike Rupp that is, quite frankly, a little bit scary. he put up 5 points as a Ranger. 2 of them were crappy goals in a game in January. he couldn’t skate, couldn’t fight, and certainly couldn’t score. for most of his tenure as a Ranger he should have been a healthy scratch. but because the coach kept telling everyone he was such a great locker room guy, some deluded fans decided he was a key component. he’s gone and, just a hunch, you won’t miss him.

  112. We have nicknames for a lot of players (which we can all use because we OWN them, man):

    Monster Nash
    Beaver Teeth Richards
    HaGOONlin
    Don’t Step-On The Logo
    Taylor Pie-Hat
    McBust
    Blockness Monster
    Stahl (and all other misspellings)
    Del Zaster
    Stuart and his Bickels
    Strahlman (an ode to misspellings of Stahl)
    Monster Mashinter
    J-Tort(s)
    The Kreider

    **********************

    Past names:

    Bible Thumper (at least I called Rupp that)
    Rosie Cheeks (Fedotenko)
    Dublowsky
    Artie-Partie

    ***********************

    What am I missing?

  113. Lloyd – there was also a question, maybe in a live chat a/k/a CHARP, where someone asked Carp about the reporters using nicknames, like, “is Cally playing tonight” or “what’s up with Rupper” etc…

  114. Fat Guy Duberstein on

    What little term of endearment might Torts use for Carp when the lights and cameras are off?

  115. Llloyd – It’s also scary to have someone whose not in the locker-room judging someones value…. in the locker-room.

    Fact of the matter is that I’d never accuse Torts of playing someone out of sentimental value… or for any reason outside of the best interest of the team’s winning record. Sure, there might be a spite benching hear or there, but they didn’t keep him around for his smile.

  116. there was a nickname for Gaborik that I’ve forgotten. never had a clue who it referred to and had to ask multiple times who it was…could have been about something to do with his teeth, head, jaw, dunno

  117. Oh, right. Good call, Lloyd. That was ORR’s nickname referring to Gaborik as “Butt-Chin”

  118. Dudley:

    I’m not judging his value in the locker room. For all I know, the guy could have been Siddhartha in the locker room. All I can go by is what I saw on the ice, and on the ice he was terrible. Yes, the locker room stuff counts for something up to a point, but you have to produce outside the locker room, too. He seemed to have the locker room and spewing cliches to the press down cold; other areas, not so much.

  119. Anyone remember the Rangers’ last Miller? Miller the Driller, the Cavity Filler?
    No profane jokes allowed. He was, of course, the team dentist.

  120. stranger nation on

    B Rich – $$$$

    MillerTime: sorry J-Torts just sounds dumb

    Big Rig – some games anyway, the Green Monster?

  121. Machine Gun Miller. John Sterling: It is high, it is far, it is in…Whoa, another Thrilla from the Milla…Miller writes another big Play, wait a minute, that puck was caught, no it was blocked…

  122. Roman Hamrlik has been a healthy scratch for the Caps for awhile now. would he be worth trying to pry away? would probably come cheap.

  123. bull dog:

    fwiw, that exact same thing was posted last season, too. not sure why no one seems to want him.

  124. Hamrlik? He must be scratched for a reason. He’s better than most of their D-Men, and at $3.5M in cap hit, they would probably just move him if he wasn’t going to touch the ice. I think they can’t even put him on LTIR because he’s over 35, right?

    Also, he’s really expensive (especially compared to our current D-Guys) but his contract does expire after this year. It would be fun to play the Islanders with Hamrlik on the ice against Hamonic.

  125. I guess the Caps just like Kundratek more than Hamrlik. I don’t know why they wouldn’t trade him if he wasn’t going to get on the ice. Guy was a 30PT per season defenseman. He’s just old now.

  126. Weren’t we supposedly trading for hamerlik for like 3 years? I remember there was even a bogus report on like nhlrumors.com or one of those mediocre sites that the deal was done back in the early 2000s

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  128. Miller stars slow, then by the 3rd period he is one of the Rangers better forwards. Torts is going to love Miller, he already plays the Ranger way.

  129. really hope Kreider plays. would suck if Mashinter was shipped back to Hartford so either Bickel or Gilroy could play forward again

  130. Rupp was pretty useless for the Rangers, but I usually give guys who play injured some credit. He had a bum knee all last year and played through it in the second half, so he wasn’t 100% healthy (although I don’t think it mattered much in his point totals).

    Kind of like how Rangers fans couldn’t wait to bash Rozsival once he was off the team, forgetting that the guy through multiple injuries (I believe he had 2 knee surgeries and a hip surgery while with the Rangers) and contributed a lot to the Rangers success back then.

  131. Hamrlik can’t skate anymore. That why he doesn’t play. All of their other d-men can move well (even Poti), so that’s why he hasn’t been playing.

  132. Lloyd – he didn’t. I was just saying he played injured and compared him to Rozsival, who contributed a lot more and people still hated him and couldn’t wait for him to leave.

  133. Woowee,another Sather folly! Has anyone suggested this, and for sure the Stars two players salaries don’t equal Rupp’s! They have a roster of non scoring defensive types on three lines!

    Does the Sleepy one get a bonus for dumping salary when he makes yet another mistake in judgement? He’s a stiff but those darned pictures work wonders! lol

  134. Lloyd, I agree to disagree but for the record, you just dominated the disagreement by referencing Siddhartha… which forced me to picture a hybrid between Rupper and Siddhartha in the lockerroom interfacing with Torts…. err, Tortorella.

  135. Siddhartha wasn’t all good. Doesn’t he give up on the holy life to go womanize and make lots of money at one point? I think he excels at being a “bad person” at some point in that novella.

  136. E3 (pimp's angel) stay thirsty my freinds on

    Any truth to the rumor that chris christy just ate the blue lines thinking it was icing off of a cake?

  137. I know many in the media like to praise Tortorella for his work with the “kids,” but candidly, I don’t see it. His heavy-handed way of dealing with many of the young prospects has done little to advance their improvement and, I believe has sapped their confidence at times. I don’t believe Gilroy is anything more than a bottom pair defenseman, but the coach’s handling of him during his first stint with the Rangers hurt his development, in my opinion. It certainly seemed to hurt his confidence. During his first stint, he seemed to play scared to make a mistake. That’s no way to maximize potential. Calling young players out on the bench during a game and then benching them for long stretches, followed by banishing him to the press box doesn’t help a young player starting his career, nor does relegating him to the fourth line when the coach routinely rolls two lines, the occasional third line and virtually no fourth line. If a kid isn’t ready for the NHL, send him back down to the AHL and ensure that he’s being taught the system you want him to be able to play in the NHL and has enough time on the ice to be able to improve and implement the system. Having a kid like Kreider play on the fourth line with the likes of Rupp and Bickel does nothing to help his development and certainly doesn’t provide him with the type of linemates that would allow him to play to his strengths. Furthermore, it doesn’t allow anyone observing him to adequately assess what he is capable of doing. The jury is still out on Kreider, but I get the sense he raises his game when he’s playing with people who have real ability. I don’t believe his play during the playoffs was a fluke. However, if you fail to let a thoroughbred run, but instead hitch him to a wagon, don’t be surprised if he performs like a donkey.

  138. NYRSince, take a look at the big picture and the fact that one of the youngest teams in the league is also one of the best — was the best in the East last year — and this without any absolute first-round draft stud on the roster anywhere, or anything close.

    Also, how those young guys run through walls for him. Don’t use Gilroy as an example. Tortorella was largely responsible for him signing with NYR originally, he left on his own, and then he decided to come back. And he’s also probably barely good enough to be a top six on a good team.

  139. why not wait to see how the young players develop before deciding the coach has derailed that development? And Gilroy’s also not that young.

  140. I would have to politely disagree when it comes to Del Zotto. As for McDonagh and Callahan, they have always seemed much more confident and mature. I’m not saying every young talent he deals with turns out badly, just that his style with many young players is not productive to their development. And, as I noted above, Vincent Lecavlier agrees.

  141. Fair points, Carp. Although I would disagree that there are “no absolute first-round draft studs on the roster anywhere, or anything close,” when you consider McDonagh.

  142. Too lazy to look it up, but there are multiple sources where VL admits that he became the player he is because of Tortorella.

  143. Agree completely Carp… Another thing to consider NYRsince72, Gilroy was not a youngster when he graduated college. I’m not sure exactly how old Gilroy was in his first season under Torts, but Gilroy is going to be 29 years old this off season.

  144. It boggles my mind how some ranger fans don’t like tortarella. I’m sure they rather have renney.

  145. A pretty crude and quick evaluation, but I’d suggest the following summary of prospect/young(ish) player development under Tortorella’s tenure:

    *Positive*
    McDonagh
    Sauer
    Del Zotto
    Girardi
    Boyle

    *Neutral (being harsh)*
    Stepan
    Hagelin
    Dubinsky
    Anisimov

    *Negative*
    Gilroy
    Zuccarello
    Grachev?
    Sanguinetti?
    Parenteau

    Not drawing any conclusions on Kreider or anyone else who has barely played. Tough to make a case that any in the bottom group have ended up being cataclysmic examples of poor development.

  146. I meant, the Rangers haven’t had any stud No. 1 picks when you’re talking about their young players they’ve developed.

  147. I’m not saying I don’t like Tortorella, merely that I take issue with much of the praise heaped upon him with regard to young players. I certainly wouldn’t want Renney. That being said, the overuse of two forward lines and select defensemen results in a wearing down of those players, such that the Rangers had a tough time getting through the first two rounds last year and lost to a less talented, but more balanced team that ran four lines effectively. I like Tortorella’s energy and passion and believe he gets alot out of certain players who buy into his system. I just worry that a system that requires as much shot blocking and incredibly imbalanced TOI numbers will not be able to physically withstand what is needed to win the Stanley Cup.

  148. “He was very tough on young players. His emotions sometimes made it difficult. *I’m not saying that in a bad way* That’s the type of coach he is. He is very aggressive, very emotional and very into the game.”

    Referencing an article with Lecavalier saying the above isn’t especially supportive of the argument either…

  149. NYRsince72,
    your right but that is what happens when you lose your 2nd and 3rd line players either through trade or free agency. I’m sure as the season goes on sather will find a way to make our 3rd and 4th lines better, either through trades or waiver wire.

  150. I do like the addition by subtraction with regard to the Rupp move and think that, by all accounts, Powe is the type of player Tortorella will like, i.e. shot blocking, puck posession forward. Also, from what I saw of JT Miller during the World Championships, he appears to be defensively responsible, which should go a long way to putting him in the coach’s good graces.

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