Rangers camp: Day 2 and Week 1 plan

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I’m headed to camp again today, with more audio for youse all.

Later in the week, probably Thursday or Friday, I will have my season preview, etc.

We’re also planning another one of those nice Live Chat thingies you guys seem to enjoy so much, on Wednesday, noonish. Plan accordingly.

While I attend these practices, etc., and throughout the season, follow me on that Twitter thing, where I’ll be tweeting notes, anecdotes and g(j)ibberish much more regularly than in the past. But I will NOT be doing play by play from games on that stupid thing. Just sarcastic comments and observations. I’m at @RangersReport.

Tell a friend about that and about the blog. Let’s build this thing.

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  1. Is there any better way to start out the day???

    Good night Carp talk you boys later this morning!

    Have a Sioux-per Day!!!

  2. Some of these season previews make mountains out of molehills:
    “Of their 12 regular forwards from last season, five are gone” – yes we’ve lost most of our bottom 2 lines and an occasional 2nd liner, but replaced them with a 40-goal scorer, 3 bottom 6 guys and a 1st round draft pick who scored 5 playoff goals last year (same as Gaby and 1 behind Richie and Cally in 2 less games).

    Only thing i am worried about this year is the PP and PK

  3. Not worried about the pk. Cally boyle hags and that defense will be fine. The system is predicated on hustle and so are successful pks. The pp has to prove itself. The entire offense has to prove itself. A popgun sporadic and inconsistent offense needs to score! That’s why these first games are so important. Score and shut down our chief rivals and let the rest of the conference know just how long a shortened season this will be.

  4. I LOVE this quote from the Larry Brooks article yesterday:

    “This is the organization Rangers fans have dreamed of for generations — one that is rich in blue-blooded, blue-collar laborers who come to work with a single-minded sense of purpose that honors the season ticket-holders who pay the very expensive freight.”

    As I was shelling out thousands of dollars for my season tickets; I used to dream of a team like this. Filled with homegrown talent and sprinkled with veterans who came here not ONLY for a payday, but because they wanted to (and knew they could) win!

    Those 7 years prior to the lockout were brutal. We are in a golden era for our team right now. We need to live in the moment and SAVOR it! As Rangers fans, this type of team has been few and far between.

    Can’t wait for the puck to drop!

  5. More like “rich in overpaid slobs who won’t even come close to sniffing the playoffs”

  6. ilb – predicting lines when Torts is the coach is like trying to nail jelly (thats jell-o to youse) to a wall.

    At some point this year we could even see an abomination like a Gaby-Halpern-Nash line or a Rupp-Richards-Asham line!! Maybe only for a single face-off though!

  7. Still waiting for news on NHL Gamecenter – 5 days till the puck drops – nothing like the urgency of an impending, condensed season is there NHL?

  8. Happy National Pastrami sandwich day everyone! Carp I’m curious what extent our beloved coach can Torts-torment these guys. As well as if he puts together the Gabnashards line.

  9. LOL I forgot about Stu, Ilb…From what I remember he played with serious “bickels” when he first came up last year. The spring is a blurr unfortunately : /

  10. James – I’d love to see us throwing Gabnashards at the opposition from game 1 but it sounds like we are going to see the Gabstepahan and Richnashelin lines to start the year and maybe a Kreidoylatt and Ruppashern as 3rd/4th

  11. Carp – any thoughts of a sweepstake to start the year for fun ?

    First Goal
    First Fight
    First opponent to score
    First minor penalty
    Opening night starters
    First PP goal
    First player to block a shot etc…

  12. That’s a possibility … have to see if I will have time to set it up … this season is coming at us pretty fast.

  13. E3 (pimp's angel) stay thirsty my freinds on

    JR – “with every new season, fall approaches and the leaves turn colors”

  14. E3 (pimp's angel) stay thirsty my freinds on

    JR – “if I am asked to exact a winner, it might be simulated by prediction”

  15. E3 (pimp's angel) stay thirsty my freinds on

    JR – by playing focused hockey, it will be easy to not be unfocused”

  16. E3 (pimp's angel) stay thirsty my freinds on

    JR – “the bitterness between players and owners is a mute point soon enough”

  17. E3 (pimp's angel) stay thirsty my freinds on

    Gary Bettman – “my new book, how to ruin a good thing, hits the shelves soon.” “I have some labor issues to resolve before it’s ready for sale. I imagine by November, 2015 you should be able to purchase a copy”

  18. Apparently the Printers Union refused to touch Bettman’s book due to his record for union-bashing

  19. So far Buyoutville has a population of 2 – but who will join Redden and Gomez? (and who will be mayor, sherriff etc..)

  20. the rangers have been moving in the right direction for 5 years or more

    jagr got things started and since then the young guys have been developing along with the king.

    need to get off to a good start with the very difficult begininng schedule and then they will be fine.

  21. Doodie Machetto on

    I like that Hagelin is staying with Richards. I think with Richards and Nash they need Hagelin’s speed to open up the defense a little bit.

    I also like that Gaborik is being centered by Stepan. I said many times last season that I thought Gaborik-Stepan worked better than Gaborik-Richards. But I’m not so sure how I feel about him switching to LW, especially with so little time to practice. If it doesn’t work out, I’d be interested in seeing either Nash-Richards-Callahan/Hagelin-Stepan-Gaborik or the top-heavy option of Nash-Richards-Gaborik/Hagelin-Stepan-Callahan.

    I’m also curious about how the PP will look. I assume Richards will be on the point instead of at center, so Stepan will probably center Nash and Gaborik on the first unit, while Callahan and one of Hagelin or Kreider will be the wings on the second unit. But who centers that? Boyle? If that’s the case, I hope he’s practiced his play in front of the net.

    I’m also interested to see who kills penalties. It’s going to have to be a group effort in the condensed season. I think that there, more than anywhere else, is where we will miss Dubi, Anisimov, and Prust. Not that they were such exceptional penalty killers that they can’t be replaced (remember guys like Ortmeyer and Moore, or Sjostrom and Betts after them?), but rather that three new guys are going to have to learn to play our PK system almost immediately, without much practice. Could be a steep learning curve, but eventually I think it evens out just fine. I imagine Halpern and Pyatt will be more than able PKers, but I’m a bit concerned who the third guy will be. Hopefully Asham can handle those duties. Otherwise, you imagine a guy like Kreider will be asked to pick up the slack there. Could be dangerous shorthanded, also.

    Most of all, I’m just excited to talk ACTUAL hockey. Love it. Hate that I’m just part of the sheeple and back to it like nothing ever happened again, but at least I can acknowledge my addiction. That’s the first step to recovery, right?

  22. Doodie Machetto on

    Just spitballing from the top of my head, but if the Canucks can’t move Luongo, he will be on that list.

    If the Flames can’t move Bouwmeester, he’s probably on it.

    If Erhoff doesn’t have a good season, I’d imagine he is on it.

    The Leafs have a lot of guys who are good choices, even just the guys with smaller contracts that they’ve been burying in the AHL like Zigomanis.

  23. Doodie Machetto on

    The Bruins have a few mid-level players that I think could go. Maybe Kelly or Boychuck.

    The Sharks might cut Havlat loose.

    I’d say Lecavalier, but that’s a really big check to write and I’m not sure Tampa has the dollars to write it.

    Paul Martin is a virtual lock.

    Horcoff too, with the only question being whether Edmonton will want to spend that money when they are trying to plead poverty to the community with respect to building a new arena. It won’t look good doling out an 8 figure check to a guy to not come back.

  24. Doodie Machetto on

    Anyone see Friedman’s 30 thoughts? He said the Rangers kicked the tires on Hjalmarsson. Can’t see that making any sense. He’s a left handed shot (we need right on D), he makes too much money for our D salary structure ($3.5 million would make him 2nd highest paid), and I wouldn’t want to give up any assets for what would be our #5 defenseman.

    Glad nothing came of it, if it were actually true.

  25. Doodie Machetto on

    Also, this great line was in it:

    Tampa Bay Lightning GM Steve Yzerman had a couple of good lines last week when he met with the media in New York City. Asked how much time he’d had to learn the new CBA, he replied: “You mean, how to circumvent it?”

    Brilliant.

  26. Doodie Machetto on

    Great that Richards has been out with the flu. Gonna be like a pickup game for him and Nash early in the season. Add in Gaborik’s learning to play LW, and our top two lines could have some real trouble with defensive zone play/breakouts.

  27. For those of you interested in NHL Gamecenter news, Bettman was on Boomer and Carton:

    Bettman said there’s a “variety of things” being worked on to welcome back the hockey faithful, “most of which are on a club-by-club basis.” The league is also “in the process” of working out a heavy discount for NHL Center Ice, a cable-satellite subscription package for out-of-market broadcasts, and streaming service NHL GameCenter LIVE.

    Can’t be free – i thnk Carp said – because of partners involved in the service but, a discount is a good start

    details:
    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/01/14/bettman-hears-it-from-boomer-says-nhl-has-fences-to-mend-with-fans/

  28. Add for Buffalo on the buyout list.
    Garrison if he bombs on Vancouver.
    Thomas or Savard for Boston.
    Ward for Washington.
    Volchenkov for NJ.
    Komisarek for Toronto.
    Markov for Montreal.
    Pronger for Philly.
    Half the team in Calgary.

  29. Love that Yzerman quote Doodie – you know all the front offices will have people working on it (apart from Phoenix)

  30. Richards and Nash have played a million times before overseas and Richards is pretty much the reason why Nash is here so no worries. And Gaborik has played LW on Slovakia’s team many times.

  31. Looking at the schedule for this year we got pretty lucky. 2nd fewest total miles to be traveled (Wild have the most with over 2x as much). And tied for fewest amount of back to backs. Red Wings for example have 12 back to backs and travel 2x as much.

  32. e3 (pimp's angel) stay thirsty my friends on

    china imports their rice from him.

    he speaks russian, in german.

    stay thirsty my friends

  33. e3 (pimp's angel) stay thirsty my friends on

    pimp – chemistry is over rated….its physics, electrical engineering, and mathematics that are essential in a good locker room

  34. Tim Thomas wont be bought out as his contract expires in the summer, Savard and Pronger cant be bought out when they are on LTIR (of course if a doctor clears them before then….).
    Toronto – its anyones guess, Kulemin, Liles, Komi, McClement.

    However, i dont think many will be sent home this week and told not to play like Gober-pyle and Redden. (Tim Thomas is already there and electing not to play himself)

  35. Doodie Machetto on

    I just waited for an hour for a flu shot.

    CTB, I didn’t know you had a baby. Congrats, buddy!

    As for your buyout list, guys like Savard and Pronger are ineligible due to LTIR. The other guys are definite possibilities. I forgot about Leino. Eesh.

  36. Ah for some reason I thought Thomas signed his deal during the 2009-10 season and was effective starting the 10/11 season for 4 seasons.

    And I wouldn’t be surprised if Savard and Pronger are magically medically cleared to play but decide they don’t want to risk further injury and retire/accept a buyout.

  37. Doodie Machetto on

    CTB, no way on Savard or Pronger. Why would they want to be bought out when they could get paid full dollars for doing bupkis?

    In Savard’s case especially, there isn’t any real harm to the Bruins except for their summer cap. He is on LTIR all season, so he doesn’t affect their cap that way, and I’m sure insurance picks up a large portion, if not all, of his contract.

    I’m not sure about how LTIR works with 35+ contracts, so I can’t say for certain if it would be the same for Pronger.

    Either way, no way either of those guys gets medically cleared this summer. And if the team doctor says one of them is, I expect them to have a private doctor say they aren’t and file a grievance.

  38. You’re probably right, I didn’t say they would definitely get bought out, but I would put them as possibilities if their teams are willing to play some CBA trickery.

    Certainly both Boston and Philly can afford to pay in full, pay a buyout and spend to the cap limit but LTIR only comes into effect if you’re essentially spending to the cap limit in the first place. Clearing up their cap space helps their teams better optimize their cap situation without having to spend to the limit and clearing up a dead spot on their 50 player reserve list.

  39. Doodie Machetto on

    CTB, that’s all true, but certainly in the case of cheap Jeremy Jacobs, he isn’t going to want to write a big check when insurance could be writing it for him.

    As for Philly, after paying Bryz something like 30 million for a year and a half of hockey, I have a feeling they won’t want to write Pronger a big check as well.

  40. I take it you have given up a large share of your baby to Jeremy Jacobs in return for a defined benefit pension, CTB?

  41. Actually the big reason I’d players like those 2 fighting against a buyout is because the compliance buyouts are coming out the players’ share of HRR.

  42. The Flyers kept Mike Rathje and Ian Laperriere on LTIR for multiple seasons (and Blair Betts all of last season) until their contracts expired, for what it’s worth.

  43. Doodie Machetto on

    well, Savard and Pronger would care more about losing overall dollars than the small amount they would affect HRR. The PA would go apecooke over it though for that reason.

  44. Sorry for reposting this but I was really interested in hearing youse guys’ reaction to this:

    So some teams are doing things for their fans in light of the lockout. LA’s decision was to announce that they were putting $1,000,000 back into the community. What do you guys think of that? I’d love to hear what any of you think of that. Personally I think it does jackschultz for the fans and is a P.R. move for the Kings. I mean who’s going to criticize that in the media? That’s like “I want to help the homeless….. but in India.” Bush league.

  45. Yeah thats what I mean. The PA would probably declare bloody murder over that issue. If there’s one provision that blatantly screams “saving the owners from themselves” it’s the compliance buyouts funded via players HRR.

  46. What The Puck?? on

    Great piece in yesretday’s NY Times on Beck and the ’83-’84 squad laying waste to northern Westchester

  47. Everyone should be concerned about the lack of Jam and defensive prowess that we lost in the off season. Prust, Artie, Dubinsky, Fedetenko. I am not sure that this was addressed properly by the GM in the off season. Asham, Halpern, Pyatt and a healthy Mike Rupp dont fit the bill for me. I like Pyatt as a viable replacement for Feds. But the other three to me just aren’t adequate replacements.

    To get Nash we had to give up something. it’s really all up to torts. if he continues this play in your zone for 40 minutes, block a ton of shots and let Henrik bail you out mentality. it will render Nash less effective and result in more goals now that the former players that could do that stuff are elsewhere.

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