NHL files suit; NHLPA says it’s without merit


This stuff is way over my head, to be perfectly honest.

From the NHL:



NEW YORK (December 14, 2012) — Today, in response to information

indicating that NHL Players have or will be asked to vote to authorize the

National Hockey League Players’ Association’s Executive Board to proceed to

“disclaim interest” in continuing to represent the Players in collective

bargaining, the National Hockey League filed a Class Action Complaint in

Federal Court in New York seeking a Declaration confirming the ongoing

legality of the lockout.

Simultaneously with the filing of its Complaint, the NHL also filed

an Unfair Labor Practice Charge with the National Labor Relations Board

alleging that by threatening to “disclaim interest,” the NHLPA has engaged

in an unlawful subversion of the collective bargaining process and conduct

that constitutes bad faith bargaining under the National Labor Relations


From the NHLPA:

NHLPA Statement Regarding NHL’s Complaint and Unfair Labor Practice Charge

TORONTO (December 14, 2012): Statement from the NHLPA regarding NHL’s Class Action Complaint and Unfair Labor Practice Charge:

“The NHLPA has just received a copy of the National Labor Relations Board charge and has not yet been served with the lawsuit.  However, based on what we’ve learned so far, the NHL appears to be arguing that Players should be stopped from even considering their right to decide whether or not to be represented by a union.  We believe that their position is completely without merit.”


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  1. yup, Rob Rossi said it best, that on a day like today, with what happened in CT, who cares about the NHL-NHLPA “urinating contest.” Amen to that.

  2. stuart, you said it. these people just never have enough money, and they certainly dont care about children losing their lives.

  3. Not a good evening all. C3 and Carp, totally agreed.

    My thoughts go to the suffering parents of Newtown, and everyone else in that community. Holy hartnell, I am at a loss for words, but sure can’t wait to hug my little niece and nephew soon, and if they cry to be let go….too bad.

  4. God?@TheTweetOfGod

    By the time the #NHL strike is settled there will be a rink in hell where the teams can play.


  5. I’m sure this is just legal posturing. But doing this now while all this is going on in Newtown is a disgrace.

  6. nhl owners caring about fair labor practices.. that is a funny 1…

    they care about their wallets, that is all they care about.

    most of these bazillionaires are jack-sses, whou would sell their mother for a profit…

    both sides are burning down the house, they have literally destroyed the league…

    obliteration, this season is not happening. this is 3 lockouts in 20 years… start a new league, this is a farce…they make the NFL commissioner(goodell) seem like a smart and good guy and that is really hard to do. buttman what a friggin clown.

  7. Not a good morning, boneheads!

    I’d like to know what was the reason for a kindergarten teacher to have multiple ( some reports say five) weapons, including a couple of handguns and an assault rifle. How was she allowed to legally obtain multiple licenses without anyone paying any attention? It’s time for our administration to stop worrying about reelection and confront NRA the way it should be confronted. Or we will be counting dead children and destroyed families forever.

  8. I’m also now with the “whatever” group … this is truly (an I mean it) at amateur-hour stage.

  9. My thoughts are only with those poor little souls and their families who will suffer from this tragedy for the rest of their lives

    As for the NHL and the NHLPA – Go away. We fans are done with you. Both of you. You’ve made a sport we love into a disgrace. You deserve to be a forgotten “major” league sport.

  10. NHLPA: “We believe their position is completely without merit”

    This whole impasse is completely without merit – Chuck the rest of the season and start over next year. We’ll see just how much revenue loss each side can stand.

  11. Oh puh leeze as if anyone gives a rats pitou about your freaking nonsense today NHL. Cancel the winter classic the day after sandy. Get all legal in the courts after yesterday’s tragedy. Whatever. Clowns. You’re pathetic. Barf.

  12. The real issue for me isn’t guns, it’s the social stigma against mental illness. Maybe if people wouldn’t be judged or chastised or outcast for seeking attention, more of them would get the aid they so desperately need.


  13. Two different problems. Not every mental illness is fully curable. Nor it’s obvious at times. Get the guns out of streets, limit the access. It’s easier than trying to cure every mentally ill, and it’s easier than trying to isolate some of them. Everyone is hot on 2nd amendment until it hits their household.

  14. I also agree w you ilb about limiting access and making their legal attainment more difficult. I dont like guns either. But taking the guns out of the streets is impossible. If someone wants a gun, they’ll find a way to get it, black markets, etc. Gun education would be another positive step, to help prevent accidental deaths.

  15. This autistic (from what I gather, high function, or Asperger’s) would have an awfully hard time finding a gun on a black market, let alone three. Nor he would know how to use the ammunition, shoot to leave very little survivors if the guns weren’t in his house growing up.

  16. He got them from his family, he could have gotten them elsewhere. My point is, I’m in favor of getting rid of guns completely. But it’s never going to happen. It’s politically impossible, the NRA is too powerful… and if his family had been more educated on gun safety, maybe he wouldnt have ended up with the guns.

  17. That’s what the NRA wants you to hear, Tiki. The truth is, most of the studies failed to show any statistically significant differences in homicide rate within the households owning the gun when gun safety education was implemented. Take a look at gun related homicide rate in Japan. Close to zero. Gun control? Can’t get any.

  18. Sorry, Carp. Didn’t mean to get into politics. Talking hockey these days makes me nauseous. Freakin’ idiots!

  19. You’re 100% right. The way to stop gun violence is to eliminate guns. I trust your citing of the studies…. but I’m a believer that education can only help.

  20. You are 110% right!!!

    Next we should eliminate schools, churches and work places.

    Most attacks occur there.

    Never mind that “assault style rifle” he had in his trunk, that should be outlawed too.

    This wont end till we take ALLl the guns away.

  21. A Glock, a Sig Sauer, and a .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle. Interesting collection of hunting weapons. Apparently his mother had at least, if not two more legally registered on her name.

  22. I hope the NHLPA brings Bettman to his knees. if losing the whole season is what it takes to bring down Bettman, I am for it. stick to your principals NHLPA. bury Bettman.

  23. I will only dip my toe into the political angle of this … I don’t have a major problem with guns or people’s right to own guns. I have a big problem with places in this country where any jackwagon can get as many guns as he wants with no background checks, etc. And I have no idea whatsoever why anybody would ever need an assault rifle, why you could buy one, or why they’re even manufactured other than for military use.

  24. As long as the NRA has the power and money it does nothing will be done. Why a damn kindergarten teacher had 5 guns including an assault rifle is beyond me.

  25. Down here in Florida, half the state would probably secede from the union if their too-liberal gun rights were tampered with. A couple of years ago a law was passed allowing an adult the right to bring a firearm into a daycare center. That’s Floriduh. Why make it more difficult to get a gun when you could increase the risks instead? Now that’s amateur hour.

  26. Btw fyi. At the exact same time they passed the law to make it legal to bring guns into a daycare, they also passed a law making bestiality illegal. That’s right kids, apparently prior to then it was legal to have sex with animals. Floriduh.

  27. I can’t believe I actually watched the majority of the second half of a Knicks game the other day. I literally haven’t seen more than a short few minutes of any basketball game in more than a decade. Thank God they’re kickin’ ass or it would’ve been much lamer. lol

  28. I believe this must be re-posted everywhere.


    Morgan Freeman’s brilliant take on what happened yesterday :

    “You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here’s why.

    It’s because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed
    people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he’ll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

    CNN’s article says that if the body count “holds up”, this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer’s face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer’s identity? None that I’ve seen yet. Because they don’t sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you’ve just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

    You can help by forgetting you ever read this man’s name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news.”

  29. You’re right, and so is Freeman, CCCP. The media is trash. They have reporters staked outside the homes of victims’ families, they had photographers taking pictures immediately following the tragic attacks. They’ll say it’s their job, but they’re disgraceful. The NY Post putting that picture of the guy about to be hit by a train in NY with the word “Doomed” captioned across him. The media has no dignity, no professionalism.

  30. Yeah, let’s blame the media, mr. Freeman. While making those jackwagons’ names famous doesn’t help, the CT, Columbine, Oregon mall victims account for around 100 people. How do you explain the rest, over 10,000 gun killings the same year that never went to mass media, genius?

  31. He’s not talking about gun killings, he’s talking about these mass killings, ilb. And the media isn’t the cause of it, the actions of the person are the cause. The media contributes largely to it.

  32. some sensible ideas that gun owners and gun control advocates should agree apon.

    all gun buyers must go thru a background check(criminal record and mental health part of requirement), gun show purchases also. ALL.

    limit the magazines to 12 bullets or less, ie eliminate high volume magazines(50 etc).

    eliminate purchase of all assault weapons(experts can define them)

    limit gun purchases to 3 a year, obviously gun shop owners do not need to follow this rule.

    On the mental health front that is another whole story. aspergers is a very high functioning autism. makes them sociall akward and nervous etc, but very very smart. my nephew has asbergers. he got a perfect score on the SAT and barely can wipe his a-s when he goes to the bathroom.

    our politicians are morons.. when they wrote the constitution, times were a little different….. gun rights fanatics live in there own world, they think it is 1850

  33. Ria(the silent bonehead) on

    Those parents must bear some responsiblity for allowing their children to be interviewed after such a traumatic experience. And yes someone will want to top this too but this is more than just the media’s fault. Thats just my opinion.

  34. Ria, I agree – some people just don’t realize the media is all about money, the journalism is in convulsion, forced into a scavenging mode because of this intense time pressure, how do we fill the time available without repeating to much ? The victims are many and weakened, naturally, they become patsies because the media guys become their front-line support group before anything else has a chance to kick in. So the parents sacrifice their survivor children to the cameras and mikes, not even remembering, how a testimony of pre-schoolers was used to ruin the lives of their own parents in California etc. I am now talking about the face value of these effusions for us adults.
    It is, however, very interesting, how many people on this blog are experts on gun control (which is in full force in Connecticut), but a very few commented on the American Psychiatric Association catalogue of mental disorders, which became a laughingstock in the european Socialist countries equivalent bodies.
    As I am watching Sir Paul McCarthney on SNL……

  35. Thanks for lumping us all into one ugly group, Tiki. None of us have any morals or scruples or professionalism, right? Thank you.

  36. Freeman had many good points on the media. they do glorify these mass murders. is it a coincidence that these things often happen, one right after another? also these video games have desensitized an entire generation. many cant separate a game, and reality.

  37. de-sensitized kids is a crucial issue here. but we can’t gloss over the mental-health problem in most cases. and maybe the media should adapt a policy of not ever naming the killer, though that would never ever happen.

  38. That came across really poorly. I wasnt including sports media, and I certainly wouldnt include you or Mama.

  39. um, never mind, Sally. I meant perceptive in a different way … nothing to do with morning or afternoon.

    Tiki, just got a GPS. They rule!

  40. _What do you think C3 has never ridden in a Cadillac before?_

    i really have no comeback for that one. sorry… i hope Seinfeld will forgive me ;)

  41. Johnny, he force feeds himself a steak at 4:30 to save a couple of bucks.

    ilb, I’m glad that wasn’t him … always respected and liked Morgan Freeman. Thanks.

  42. Good evening all….not
    Wow, I really miss hockey when world news hits this blog. And get really ticked when some of you have no idea what you’re talking about….sorry…mama rant. Go visit Newtown and then shut the hartnell up.

    Forgive me, for I am touched my this is many ways and have little tolerance for a lot right now..


  43. As you guys know, i’m from the UK. We had a similar event in Dunblane in ’96 where innocent children were gunned down and a year later the government brought in the Firearms act essentially making owning a firearm illegal without a licence. Since this law came in most firearm deaths occurred in our 3 largest cities (London, Manchester, Birmingham) and can be attirbuted to gangs and drugs.

    Look at this page, and scroll down, way down and see that the UK and Japan are way at the bottom. We had 1 gun death for every 400,000 people who live here – and 2 out of 3 were gun related suicides.

    I’m not saying you should ban guns, its part of your constitution and a damn site easier to smuggle one into your country than onto our little island, therefore illegal firearms are more prevalent than over here. You just need greater control, more checks, tests and licenses so that guns, and especially these semi-auto guns and high-powered hunting rifles are not part of the average household and people can’t own an unnecessary amount or type of guns or buy unlimited ammo from Walmart.

    Remember the children, but also remember the killer – you need to understand his mentality and his methods and act to ensure that these people are treated properly and that this course of action is not an option for a mentally unstable person in the future.

    For the sake of your kids America – use this tragedy to make your neighborhoods safer.

  44. As for hockey – i’m in the couldnt care category now.
    Someone let me know when the season starts or is cancelled, i cant be bothered to read more legalese or PR drivel

  45. I’m with you UK…
    I honestly don’t care whether the season starts or not…
    I’ve found plenty of great stuff to fill my time with, and
    I’m loving it!

  46. the new top one is for stuff that I tweet or re-tweet. the middle one is for select news reporters/tweeters who cover hockey. the bottom one is for Rangers players (or non players, as it were) and even a few former players.

  47. it’s Avery’s direct link to all his former die hards on here.
    So we can learn what’s in his closet…lol

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