Here’s my story on Game 6 from The Journal News and LoHud.com today.
Here’s Josh’s story on Henrik Lundqvist.
LGR!!!!!....Next year, that is :-(
I wonder which bust Gordie Clark has his eyes on!!
I feel its LGR year-round!
SON OF A CARP...
Unfortunately, there is no place for Zuc on this team. Add to that the fact this team needs goals, not more playmakers. If Zuc had lots of goal scoring potential, then you take a chance and keep him. The Rangers already have too many guys that pass once too often and miss the net. If you are going to give a small guy a shot, give it to Christian Thomas. Goal scorer. He may still be a couple of AHL seasons away, but this team needs people that can put the puck in the net.
That was the one thing that I took away from this season as well as the playoffs. If the Rangers are pressing the offensive attack without the need to have the D pinch so much to make up for scoring deficiencies, maybe the Rangers would have already played game one of the finals by now.
Hank didn’t let in any soft goals. He had to deal with deflections, goals off of his Ds skates, and guys who pounce uncovered on rebounds. The D was more than good enough to get the job done. It is amazing that this team got this far when their offense is so flawed. The 94 Rangers almost didn’t make it and they had a hall of fame cast in the forward ranks.
This team is still two years away. If they can get Stepan to be consistant all year, including the playoffs, get Anisimov to actually be the offensive player that he can be, and get Gaborik to actually be more than vaguely dangerous during the playoffs, then this same team might actually be ready to make an even bigger step next year. However, they really need more scoring, which means another forward, which means Parise (who should have already been on this team instead of Jessiman).
I hate that they lost to the Devils (that is the only thing that tarnishes this season for me) but beyond that, I am thrilled that they made it to the conference finals instead of getting knocked out in the first round. This experience will prove valuable in time.
Me too, Orr!!
It’s hard to envision Parise winning the Cup and then, somehow, signing with the Rangers!! It could happen!
anyone have an idea of what kinda offer it’ll take to get parise?
Joekuh- think 9 yr, over $70M with NMC.
Joekuh, a lot of years, a lot of money. How’s that for expert analysis?
how about, more money and more years than Richards?
The problem with the Rangers forwards is that they play behind the other team’s goal, instead of in front of it.
yeah, that’s how they won those 61 games.
What am I wrong about?
Schoney works with the defensmen . It’s been shown a number of times on the msg network. Sullivan may have imput as he should. He is the assistant coach. Am I wrong that Sullivan coaches the pp? Because he does. Am I wrong that the powerplay has sucked for the last three years? Because it has.
Let’s not change anything. After all the powerplay has been so good don’t you know.
Do your self a favor and watch the Devils power play to see how a real one functions.
I know that the PP sucks, and they need to figure that out as an organization, because even with the people they have it should be and must be a lot better.
you’re wrong that Sullivan has nothing to do with the development and the play of the young defensemen like McDonagh. Couldn’t be more wrong.
You think we can entice Parise by throwing in a luxury suite for J.P. in the new Garden???
Do your self a favor and watch the Devils power play to see how a real one functions.
If i’m not mistaken, through game 4 of the series they had a 1-fer. Their PK also stunk until that point.
Helluva season…love that Torts did say “not good enough” cuz I couldn’t agree more but also have to be proud of the team and their run. Still think Rangers could have done it but, in the end, NJ just outplayed them too many times before and got that big goal when I felt it was only a matter of time that NYR won it.
I probably don’t fully understand the system but I wonder if adjustments were made to counter NJ’s forecheck – i’m certain they were but it didn’t seem so as much as it seemed that the Rangers picked up their game to sustain a forecheck of their own. Also wonder how you get more out of guys like Gabby in playoff settings where time and space is extremely limited.
Anyway, can’t wait for the postseason wrap ups and thanks for all your efforts Carp…love reading the blog and love seeing the commentary – especially when the wheels are coming off.
LA Kings, 8.1% PP, 2 playoff losses, more goals/game than the Devils.
Parise would seemingly be a great fit for this team and a much needed gritty forward with much needed scoring touch—especially around the dirty areas.
He would be my top pick. I wouldn’t want it to hamstring us from signing all but a few of the current roster to keep it in tact for the next couple of seasons – especially the D – and I wouldn’t want it to keep us from upgrading to a few 3-4th liners with some more offensive upside. That said, I would raid the treasury to get Parise in a Rangers uniform if he has a strong desire to play here and not just chasing the big contract.
Here’s the sorta’ crazy part about LA. They are now at 3rd position in Goals Per Game avg (Pitts, Philly are 1 and 2 respectively).
But look at the regular season ( http://espn.go.com/nhl/statistics/team/_/stat/scoring/sort/avgGoals/seasontype/2 ) and LA is 29th!!! Crazy Cinderella story.
Hopefully, as the club’s talent level increases, the system the team plays will also evolve. When Tampa won the cup, they followed “Safe is death” and won because Khabibulin was terrific. when he wasn’t, they could not win. I have to give the coaches credit for getting what they did out of this group. They piled up points during the first 3/4 of the season. When the other clubs ramped it up down the stretch, they had more difficulty and by the time the playoffs started, the clubs with more talented players and more depth gave them fits. Kreider will help. The Devils deep group of forwards masked the weakness on thier backline. Just as our strength on the backline and in goal made up for ineptness of the forwards. The Rangers have to find replacements for Mitchell, Fedotenko and maybe Prust that are upgrades. Rupp is useless, but signed for a couple more years so I doubt he goes anywhere. Don’t know how close any of the other prospects are. Assuming Erixon is close and that Thomas and Miller are not, there is not much help close to moving up. Dubinsky and Anisimov are candidates for trades that could bring something worthwhile back. Girardi, McD, MDZ and Staal are solid in the back. Love to pry Douglas Murray away from the Sharks.
first thanks for all of the great articles, your time, care and patience with all of us, myself and my brother, jpg included. The comments are a result of our passion for the team and this team, especially.
I know this wasn’t a very grammatically written post, but heartfelt.
I never thought I would loathe the day that Tom Gulitti’s Fire and Ice Twitter feed didn’t show up on the side-bar cycling ridiculous updates every ~13.5 minutes … but I do, so much.
Second, I know it won’t change anything and maybe I should ask this for the chat, but
A. Why wasn’t the whistle blown during the scramble which resulted in OT goal? The puck was definitely under Hank, Is there a so many count rule before they blow the whistle?
B. Did the Boys seem to be going down and blocking shots less during this series?
3rd, I guess I can go back to my Monday Night Yoga Class. Definitely Need the Stress Relief
What if Kovalchuk would have went to the Kings instead? Prust sayin’....
I can bring it back, if you want, TFB :)
jpg’s sister, heartfelt beats grammatic every day of the week. But it was also grammatically just fine.
Ricardo/Josh (26) – great work…great writing…superb analysis…..
LETS GO RANGERS
JR – “There isnt much to deny that already hasnt been said”
JR – “any time the duality of the loss sets in, it hurts”
What if the Rangers don’t draft Sanguinetti and take Giroux instead?
Or what if they take anyone other than Jessiman?
Or what if Cherapanov didn’t have health issues?
Or what if Howsen was such a piece of Carcillo?
Or what if Girardi stays in his spot in the crease and doesn’t go behind the net and stop there?
Or what if MDZ’s grandma didn’t have her own health issues and he was more solid?
We could what if everything all day.
JR – “the rangers showed that the compromise and the consideration almost pulled it off”
JR – “next year, the rangers should be in any conversation”
Last quarter of the season for the Kings coinciding with the Jeff Carter trade Kings averaged 3 goals/game.
Essentially they were suffering a 50+ game team-wide scoring slump. Lots of their proven scorers were shooting well below their historical averages. They were also 2 points away from tying the Yotes for the division lead and thus being thought of as a 3 seed rather than just squeaking into the playoffs as an 8th seed. They also finished 2nd in the league in goals against.
Now I’ve been surprised by the ease that they’ve dispatched the Nucks and Blues, but they are far from the 06 Oilers in terms of their ability and the amount they’ve played over their heads.
what if Glen had kept Torts in 2000 instead of not even considering him and instead hiring Ron Low (followed by Bryan Trottier)?
I wish that would just fix everything, Carp. Really do.
^ this in regards to Fire and Ice tweets
JR – “whenever a team fails to reach what its intentions were enabled, there is always next season to concur”
What if the Thrashers GM didn’t have an obsession with getting hosed in trades for his prime rental players?
What if the arbitrator didn’t award Scott Stevens for the Blues signing Brendan Shanahan?
What if Mike Rupp never scored in the SCF game 7 in 2003?
Carpy, wondering what your thoughts are about the job Sather has done recently and in his 12-13 years here? Or, is it not politically correct for you to comment?
I am obviously still depressed by the outcome last night, but i am extremely happy with the season and the first 2 rounds of hockey…...that was some major excitement…..2 game 7’s, staving off 3 elimination games…...I am proud of this team and I really think that their ceiling is wayyyy high….
eddie, anyone who’s been here all year simply can’t be…i say can’t be.. not on your life can’t be depressed just knowing that you’re here. Amongs many stars, you win my ‘best poster’ award.
Even JR is happy, the carcillo head he is.
JR – “what if i had only half of a brain…well, to be honest, it would be an upgrade”
Eddie is my man, in an infinitesimal way.
matty, thx mate…..you guys are a lot of fun and i have a hoot posting with y’all…..
CTB – how is baby CTB?
Still too early for me to read, rehash…..but major mama love to Carp and Josh, 26….Happy for Carp’s the Summer of Carp, but what about us! You can’t leave! All the plants will die!!!
this blog is an amazing place…it truly is….
Miami, and the Mrs., congratulations to you both!! Much good health. I am sure she is second rate and has no class.
The baby is getting teeth. Don’t think she likes them too much yet.
JR – “happiness is more than a state of being, it is the stabilization of creation”
Mama, you take care of our Tony!!
What if the 1989 Trumble, CT Little League team never won the LLWS?
CTB – i have heard it said that an adult would never be able to tolerate the pain of cutting teeth….
orthogel….or whiskey on gums….
“ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhahhhaaaaaahhhhhh Kopitar once again scores in Brodeur’s net. The Kings are sashaying right around the Devil’s defense!”
Why do I feel like if Zuc was on the devils they’d find a way to integrate him? Steven Gionta anyone?
Hard to believe people are debating strength of devils mgmt.
Also some of the comments about the devils future are forgetting Adam Larson who did not play but who is as highly regarded a prospect as Kreider.
I hate them but that doesn’t blind me to what they’ve accomplished. Particularly when you put them up against the Sather era of abject failure.
I’m proud of the boys and know they left it all out there.
But there is a lot of work to do. Now is the time to be bold and make some big moves. You don’t do that when you are rebuilding, but you must when you are going for it.
It is easy to think they just need some incremental moves but remember there is very little difference between most teams in this league and the fact is every team has top prospects and is getting better.
Yes our boys have the will to win but I’m skeptical that hte all out all the time can or should be sustained over another full season.
Re : Doc …..Lloyd had the funniest line ever last night ”......the drowning of that crow in the television….”
JR, Tony very sadly allowed his beard to be shaved today…..said he’d rather have the beard….allow me to be a biased ref….if you are voting in the 3PMPB Contest at http://zetterburger.com/ vote for Tony!!!!
Carp, idk if Rod is ever still around but I thought it was funny that in Kovi’s post-game interview he said he was deciding between the Kings and the Devils in the offseason and he went with the devils. I think that proves your point right there and makes Rod look pretty stupid, not that he hadn’t already.
Anyway, does anyone else think this team will be a little better offensively next year? I think we will see an improvement in play from Ricahrds, Staal, McD, MDZ, Kreider and Dubinsky and that should be enough to get us into the top 4.
And highly doubt Parise is coming here. I think Detroit.
Sather better be working on things now because Nash and Iggy will likely be gone by draft day and there are already rumors of Boston making a play for Nash.
Sauer-Schultz????/Stralman/Erixon/McClrath (wild card)
The Gomez-McD was brilliant but that does not excuse 13 years of failure.
I rather not take Iginla or Nash. If I had to choose I would choose Iginla
What if Sauer never gets concussed? Just sayin’
True blue just my opinion but a team relying on Gaborik as its key player has no shot at a cup.
I think by now we have learned that Boyle is not a 4th line center. and I would think Anisimov will be an ex Ranger by next season.
Only 24 hours ago we were talking about possible game 7 and today we are talking about who will and will not be on this team next season…The season went by too fast… So weird
Possible options for the Rangers offense next year: Ray Whitney, Shane Doan, Parise, Semin and Erik Christensen, lmfao only kidding
Whitney could be a good fit we need a playmaker
Agreed CCCP, I just hope it wasn’t one and done. Let’s all just hope Gaborik has a good year next season so that if need be we can trade him as a rental player 2 years from now and bring in Malkin who is going to want out of being Crosby’s shadow =)
Shane Doan – Parise – Callahan, would be one hell of a line
Dustin Brown – Parise, Callahan would be even better.
Rangers could trade Anisimov or Dubinsky and Erixon plus a pick for Jordan Staal. If they would ever make that trade.
sullivan is going to get the job in Calgary as the head coach.
true blue mike not a bad lineup… where Miller will be next year is a interesting question.
i think rupp is useless. if you get 4th liners with some spped and skill who can play rough it is so much better for the team.
the rangers 4th line did almost nothing thru 3 series….no production at all….....
Gaborik for Iginla!
I agree Stuart but we have Rupp for 2 more years and I don’t think Torts will keep him out of the lineup. I am assuming Miller can make the jump this coming season as a third line player. Big body and he plays like Callahan.
Not forgetting about Larsson and his bright future at all, but his current playoff impact has been minimal, so I wasn’t including him as a major reason for this year’s turnaround.
And Gionta has basically played six full years in the minors and is still just a scarcely used fourth liner, regardless of his success in this series. So not sure the Devils have been falling over themselves to find a way to integrate him, compared to MZA’s situation.
Completely agree the Devils’ front office’s history of achievement is way beyond Sather’s in NY. Just plenty of evidence to suggest Lamoriello’s work, post lockout particularly, isn’t as beyond reproach as is sometimes painted.
no thanks to gabby for iginla.. gabby has 2 more years on his deal, he is a 40 goal guy. soft but 40 goals is a bunch.
now the revisionsit history starts.. the debbies are loaded etc. no they aren’t and they are old. the rangers could not generate enoguh forecheck or offense and therefore fat boy and there d did not get exposed as much as it should have been.
salvador is 35, zidlicky the same, volchenkov 32 +, elias 36, etc. they are not a young team… the rangers forwards did not do enough. stepan, aa, dubi, gabby, etc…....
i love after the fact finding out the devils are this juggernaut that they are not…...gianta is 28 years old bernier is a multi team retread who is 28 and they rangers dumped… zubrus is a 32 year old faker whom i hate….....
they got hot, rangers played bad, aend of story….....rangers defense is loaded…...they ned sauer back and then they have there 220 pound crease slearer with a good 1st pass…..........
Doesn’t feel any better for me today than it did last night. Still feels awful.
True Blue, Rod was here this morning, shockingly weighing in after the elimination.
Semin was softer than Gaborik in the second round. A lot.
Matty, I don’t care about politically correct. His free agency record is abysmal. His coach-hiring record, until Torts, is abysmal. He’s made some good trades. And in the last several years has hired a bunch of really smart hockey minds to surround him, hence some good picks. In a nutshell.
lol you guys are awesome.
PS. I do read her your blog entries! She gets a good laugh.
Be back soon.
I’m mostly in agreement with stuart a – I didn’t think that NJ was a world-beater team before the playoffs started, and even though they beat the NYR, I just don’t think they’re that good – yes, they beat us, and pretty soundly. But they are a team of retreads and oldsters mostly, with several very good, young players and a temperamental Russian superstar whose salary is helping to bankrupt the team.
They got on a roll, everything broke just right for them, and they beat an incredibly overconfident Philly team, and an exhausted Ranger team that they will always come out with blood in their eye to defeat. That they just squeaked by Florida indicates more accurately who they really are.
IF NJ goes into the finals and gets steam rollled a la 1994 Islanders, then how much worse is this series loss?
LA is really, really solid and dangerous and has a much better goalie … but I don’t think they’ve seen anything like the defenses in the East, especially the one that blanketed a very good Flyers offense and gave nothing to the Rangers.
Beating the Rangers was, and always has been, the NJD’s Stanley Cup – they relish beating our boys more than any other team in the league, and it shows on the ice.
Maybe after this defeat at their hands, when we we so close to the final round, our boys might crank up the hatred level towards that franchise a little more – but that remains to be seen.
i actually think the islanders enjoy it more. because that really is their Cup.
You are dead on. We are a better team for the most part. We just did not play smart in this series.
Th other thing is that the Devils fourth line can actually play and is expected to contribute on the offense. We have Mike Rupp and John Mitchell.
Lundqvist for Brodeur
Hey…he got NJD to cup final!
CARP—-I believe the Rangers are improved almost in spite of Sather. The cap made him change, and he hired Torts and Gordie to run the draft and backed away. he deserves the credit for that, but none of the credit for drafting. He DID make the Gomez trade, and he has a decent record with trades…...at least better than with free agents. Old grump that I am, I cannot forget the total embarrassment the franchise was for most of the first 10 years of his reign. He should have been fired long before he ever got to 10 years. As of today. so long as he stays above everything and lets the folks who know run things, we should be able to continue building.
was mitchell any worse than Stepan or Hagelin?
No doubt that the Islanders enjoy beating us whenever they can, Carp – it is their cup! What I meant was, I don’t think there’s another team that the Devils get more enjoyment from beating than the Rangers.
Both teams hate us, as territorial rivals – and for both teams, beating us is their “Holy Grail”.
I never have gotten the sense that our players get that message groomed into them when they join our team.
It was awful, ThisYears. I killed the hiring when it happened, and I killed him for the Trottier hiring, and for chasing guys like Lindros and Bure, not to mention the Gusarovs and Dave Karpas and Ulanovs and guys like that, and later I thought the Holik signing was a good one, but for way too much money. Worst, when he came in he decided everything was wrong. So anybody who was a free agent (Schneider) was let go, anybody not under contract (Torts) was let go. Then he got Malakhov and said “He’s the best defenseman we have” even while Leetch was in his prime.
Thanks, Carp – coming from you, I appreciate it!
It’s interesting how rivalries work, Jimbo, isn’t it? The Devils hate the Rangers the most, but the Rangers probably hate the Flyers the most, and yet the Flyers probably hate the Penguins the most. The only rivalries I can think of that have an equal degree of hatred are probably Boston-Montreal and Calgary-Edmonton.
Yes, Latona!! Boston-Montreal and the two Alberta teams are legendary rivalries. I think Toronto-Montreal was a very hot one, too. And before these interloper bastage teams came into our area, Rangers-Boston was a terribly heated rivalry.
And Detroit-Chicago was a very heated rivalry, too.
This never gets old…
Carp when I clicked the link to read your article it said I have 17 more sessions does that mean i’ll have to pay to view your stories on lohud in the future?
CARP—More on Sather….........I hated his hiring as well, mainly because he disparaged Neil Smith and the Rangers and the money they spent, calling them damaging to the NHL. Then, as soon as he gets hired he does exactly the same thing spending the ranch on the comatose carcasses of Kamensky, Gusarov, Ulanov, Makakhov,Lindros,Holik, signed Gomez and Drury, and so on. The cap forced him to change his approach. I recall meeting Sam Rosen and John Davidson when they were broadcasting the Ducks finals run against the Devils and hearing them say how embarrassed they were at Sather’s moves and the way the Rangers were mocked across the league. So I give him begrudging credit for where we are now, but I don’t believe that he himself is responsible. I think he is a pompous jerk and should have been whacked long ago.
Carp, what’s the story with JD in St. Louis? Any chance he comes back home? ( I mean NY, not Calgary)
Trade Stepan and Hagelin for a bag of pucks.
Ladies and gentleman, your new starting center is John Mitchell. The guy who hasn’t scored a goal for five months.
On Sny, they have a couple of comments about Justin Shultz from some hockey people. One of them is Craig Button. Anyway, they say he will be as much sought after as Suter and Parise. Button calls him a Drew Doughty type player who can control a game. He should be our top priority in my opinion. I’ve also read that if he was in this draft, he would be in the top 3.
glad you went after that one Czech, that was a poor statement on Carps part. we all know that Hagelin should have been traded for a 2nd round pick before the season started, and Stepan scored all his points against 3rd and 4th liners last year.
to me Marc Staal played the best hockey I have ever seen him play in these playoffs, I did not believe he could reach this level. he really deserves a lot of credit for coming all the way back from his concussion and playing at the level he did.
as far as Stepan goes,
I felt he had a solid regular season. he was the number 1 center for much of the season. in the playoffs against Ottawa, he was eh for the first 4 games and I thought he was the best forward on the team in games 5, 6, and 7. against the Caps he was solid, but nothing special. in this last series against the Devs he was quiet, he would have a moment here or there. I think he is a keeper, but I worry about his average speed and shot.
I would address the scoring / skill issue in free agency. I would be out of the Nash sweepstakes. if I was to make any trades they would involve getting a top 5 Dman, and I would use Anisimov as the bait. AA is at best the 4th center on the team, and the 3rd or 4th LW on the team. Miller is on the way, and by all accounts, already plays the Rangers style. if he is not ready you still have Hags, Dubi, and Kreider on the left.
Stepan and Hags were disappointing – showed a lot more during the season than they did in the playoffs. Anisimov may have finally worn out his welcome here. Feds did well in the playoffs, but who knows what his future holds. Rupp was a waste of space in the second season, and Prust didn’t contribute much, either with “snarl” or with any scoring.
Dubi – terrible season all together.
If not for Girardi popping in some goals, and the defense contributing overall to the offense collectively, our team was remarkably weak in offense in these playoffs. Our forwards really underachieved.
And as for Gabby and Richie – well, if Gabby wasn’t hurt, he was real disappointment. Richards played well in the first 2 series, but was nowhere against the Debs. Cally was hurt, and got into the right place for a few deflections, but his shooting ability was nil.
Boyle probably is a lot worse off than we were told, concussion-wise.
jimbo, a point in Anisimov’s favor though, saw his break away as he was held and hooked multiple times as he tried to shoot in the third in my biased opinion, should have been a penalty shot Ha Ha I know, what’s the chance?
I am still a bit in shock. This was an absolute blast of a year to be a Rangers fan. The outcome flat out sucks, but I am damn proud to bleed blue. One of the coolest parts of this year for me, on a personal note was getting my kids in to it. My son is only 4, but my daughter who is 6 has been getting in to the Rangers with me for 2 years now, but this year she really really got it. I LOVE that she is so in to it, knows all the players, understands the rules, etc. I kept telling her as the year went on to really take it in and enjoy the fun of this year, because it isn’t always like this. She kind of understood what I meant, but I could tell she didn’t fully understand it. Last night, I let her stay up and watch the game with me while everyone else went to sleep. My wife kind of just lets me be when the playoffs start because she knows how intense I get. My daughter on the other hand really got in to it, so I figured I would let her stay up. I could tell she was getting tired and she kept coming over to hold my hand. We sat on the couch with our hearts in our throats and then it happened. The Devils scored and the game was over. I just sat there in shock. I looked at her a few seconds later and she was crying. Hell, I almost felt like crying, but I told her it was OK, and that this team was in the beginning stages of being a very good team for a very long time. She asked me if that loss was what I meant all those times when I told her to take it in and really enjoy the season. I looked at her, and I paused, and I said, yes baby, it is. I am so proud of this kid for sharing in my passion, and knowing how much I care about this team. I love it because I know that she was upset because she got really in to it too, but more than that, she felt absolutely awful for me. She gets it. Passing down things to your children is a great thing, but when it feels forced on them sometimes the specialness feels cheapened. This felt genuine, loving, and true. She went on to tell me about the lunch aid at her school, and how she has a son that is a huge rangers fan. She then asked me what bandwagon meant. I kind of laughed and got mad and asked her of the aid called her a bandwagon fan. She said no, but all of the kids that didn’t wear any Devils gears at all, all year, are now wearing things to school. The lunch aid called the kids bandwagon Devils fans. She I explained to her what it meant and she laughed. Then she asked me if she had to stop wearing her Rangers things to school now that they are out. I paused again, because traditionally I don’t wear any of my Rangers gear after we are eliminated until the regular season is over. I thought about it for a second and I told her that she could wear Rangers things to school every day for the rest of the year if she wanted to. This morning I woke up she had her Rangers t shirt on, so I broke my yearly tradition and I put mine on too, even if it is for one last time until the season is over. Then something made me feel a little better about the loss. It is usually a long long wait before I can wear them again, and the draft, and the trading deadline. Not this year. We didn’t make it to the finals, we didn’t win the cup, but we did a lot of GREAT things. This year was a failure to win the cup, but it wasn’t a failure at all. Just ask my daughter ;)
Yeah, sis – he was trying, but they weren’t calling a lot of penalties of the opposition, as is the norm. They have managed to clutch and hold, interfere and impede like the old days, with little in the way of punishment – but that didn’t do us in, either.
Artie has a load of potential, but he has not been able to develop it – it may be that he needs a change of scenery.
How are you doing, and how is jpg holding up?
Jpgs Sister, it is funny you mention that hook. My daughter yells, “His stick blade touched his gloves, his stick blade was at his waist, penalty, penalty, Daddy, why wasn’t that a penalty?” I kid you not. That should have at the very least been a penalty.
Awesome, awesome post, Nasty. I hope to one day do the same with my children. It is especially wonderful that your daughter has been diagnosed with Rangeritis because she did so of her own volition, as you mentioned. I got my Rangeritis from my mom’s side of the family; my dad’s side are a big Giants family and they always tried to impose that fandom upon me, which distanced me from the team even more. I gradually found myself watching Rangers games alongside my grandfather and aunts, and voila, I was hooked. Sounds like you are an awesome father with an awesome daughter – keep up the good, BLUE work!
Thank you Latona. Much appreciated.
Nice story, nasty – I never had any kids, and if I did, I’d almost dread encouraging them to be Ranger fans, knowing all the pain it puts one through. Sounds like your daughter is sweet, and she’ll be a good fan for years to come.
I used to go to games with my dad, but as a young adult, not as a kid – all throughout the late 60’s, and up till the time that he died in 1992 – unfortunately, he did not get to see the magical cup run in ‘94, and I regret that we didn’t share that together. My mom, although quite ill, didn’t follow hockey, but she cheered like mad when they made that cup run in ‘94, and at least she got to see me be happy at the end of a season for once!
She’s gone now, too – died a few years after the ‘94 season, right at this time of the year – kind of makes me sad to get to this particular part of the year for several reasons now.
Papa, I don’t see that happening … think he’s in a great spot there, and I think Sather’s going to stick around a while here, and then be replaced by one of the members of his “cabinet”—Gorton, Clark, Schoenfeld, Messier?
Great stuff, Nasty. ... also world’s longest paragraph. I’m a little jealous.
My ex step father got me in to the team. Probably the only good thing that came out of that marriage. Ha.
Carp, I guess I could have turned that in to two. The second starting with this morning.
what statement? that Mitchell was no worse than Hagelin or Stepan?
in this series, he sure wasn’t. And I’m not a fan of Mitchell’s at all. I like Stepan, think he still has a lot of upside. I think Hagelin could be a really good player, but not a first-liner.
what’s the bad statement I made?
Jimbo, I’m sure your dad was celebrating upstairs with all our other passed Rangers brethren. Hope that our chats here at RR can make this time of the year even that much easier on you.
How old is Sather and does the NHL have a mandatory retirement age for GM/Presidents? I really fear that Slats is about to have one of those summers where he screws things up royally ( see Reddon, Gomez, Jessiman, etc.)
Yes, Ria, we now have a subscription plan for Journal News and LoHud.com stories … I can circumvent when I have something important by cutting and pasting right here into a post. But for other Lohud content, I think they will charge after a certain number of stories … don’t know if it’s monthly or whatever. I’ve been kind of busy with something far more important to pay attention.
I don’t know if Sather will. I think he takes a lot of input from Torts. He sees the success this team has had. I think if Sather just did what he wanted to, that Nash probably would already be a Ranger and we would be watching Kreider in Columbus next year with our jaws at the floor.
Papa, I don’t think Schoenfeld, Clark, Gorton, Messier and Tortorella will let him … but somebody needs to tell him … No more Brashears, Boogaards, Scotts!
I hope so, Latona – I hope so! I was wishing that he could see the culmination of all those years of disappointment – he played roller hockey as a kid, and he was around for the 1940 cup, but I never knew if he was a Ranger fan as a youngster – he never spoke about it.
My mom & dad, while still dating, were taken to a Ranger game in the Old Garden, and they told me about all the fistfights and mayhem that they remembered seeing that night – I think an aunt or uncle got them the tickets, so I think I might have gotten infected “in the womb” with Ranger fever, however that works – it was years before I was born, though!
Actually, I did not learn about hockey as a spectator sport from my dad at all – I was told by a neighborhood friend whose ex-girlfriend I was dating that I should check out the Rangers on Channel 9 on a Saturday night – this was in the late fall of 1967, and I’ve been afflicted ever since. Jeez, first his girlfriend then the Ranger jones – if he’s still alive I should track him down and kill him. ;-/
Maybe he just wants those kinds of players around for security in case Lowe and Burke duke it out in his barn.
Carp May 26th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
was mitchell any worse than Stepan or Hagelin?
Just for thought since the 51 regular season wins were important too:
John MitchellNYRC6351116playoff pts 1 age 27
Derek StepanNYRC82173451 playoff pts 3 age 21
Carl HagelinNYRL64142438 playoff pts 9 age 23
i meant in the ECF, otherwise, it’s not even a question.
Nasty, Probably the three worst habits my 22 year old son picked up from the old man –
– the Rangers, the Jets and the Mets ( in no particular order). We watched each game of the series together – I felt his pain last nite, he was devastated. He was only 4 when they won the cup in 94. I remeber it like it was yesterday. He sat with me on the couch in his Brian Leetch jersey, tried so hard to stay awake but passed out right after Messier scored the 3rd goal. I pray we can share in a cup win someday. Nothing would please me more! This was close and we thought they had a good shot. While it never feels good when the season ends, this one hurts signifigantly more watching how upsetting it was for him.
Rangers, Jets, Mets. Ouch. Talk about long-suffering. No Knicks?
No doubt Papa. We made it this close. Every team in the league will be better next year, we have to make sure we can identify the areas that we need to be better and fill them. We can’t just pull the trigger on a name, we have to pull the trigger on the name that fits the team in all aspects. It’s not about the best players, it is about the best players for this team. I do think though, with more firepower, we could open it up a little more. We won’t have to block shots as much if we control the puck and boards more and have a more potent offense. Easier said than done, but it is doable. And I always agree with Carp that you don’t just trade players away that we already have unless it makes us better. Can’t just trade players away to just be gone with them. We the exception of a few, this players are still young and are learning. So you don’t just trade away a Dubi or DelZ unless you are getting something better back. It was different with a Rozy, Drury, or Gomez.
parise = more money/years than richards? DO NOT WANT!!! not saying i wouldnt want him on my team, but there has to be a point when you say enough is enough …. isnt there?
ps i still smile when i think of the only goal boog ever scored for us. RIP. nice touch by the team to wear a patch of his number on their helmet all season.
Carp – Knicks too, but not with passion and commitment we invest in the Broadway Blues. I would describe as more like passing the time waiting for our next Ranger game.
I was a Met fan since their inception, through the great 80’s and into early 90’s – then I pretty much gave up on them – their horrible management finally got to me. Jets fan to a much lesser extent, but was a fan a while before the ‘69 Super Bowl and maybe 10 years after. Now I could care less about football. Was never a Giants or Knicks fan at all.
Emmy Rossum who play Fiona on Shameless is at Warren 77 right now watching the basketball game.
Chick’s a babe, isn’t she? Shame she’s a Knickerbockers fan.
Yeah man, she is.
Orr, I knew when I posted that, you would respond. ha.
It’s the only post that’s really caught my attention today!
still feel like i got punched in the gut and feel nauseous. this pain wont subside
Over 40 years ago I caught the bug and have been living and dying every step of the way, always bleeding my Ranger Blue, some years more enjoyable than others. I must admit though, there was something about this particular team, this particular coach, this particular year that made me feel like I was watching them for the first time and falling in love with them all over again. You can’t help but admire this group for their constant courage, commitment to each other, selfless sacrifice, never say die attitude. It has been building with the core of this group for a few years now, but it really came together in a unique and special way this year. It was certainly easy to invest in this group. I hope they can build upon it moving forward.
I know they’ll come a day when Torts wears out his welcome and moves on – it happens with every leader in almost every industry. But he more than anyone, is responsible for this team’s DNA – built on strong character, sacrifice and selflessness evident every night by they way the respect and battle for each other. We didn’t get the Cup and that sucks. But, in my humble opinion, this team will go down in Ranger history as one for the ages.
great story nasty when my son whos 15 months old grows up i hope to have the same bond
I’m taking the loss like a school girl dumped by her boyfriend. Just eating ice cream, watching some TV.
Watching the Celts/Seventy Sixers match right now. I normally wait for the fourth period, but I’ve decided to watch it earlier. The play by play guy seems like a true professional.
Yeah Carp, I shockingly weighed in this morning to tell you again what I told you before & during the season, and will say again after it; the Rangers can’t score enough.
You disagreed, then hid behind your butt-kissers & banned me for fighting back.
The NYR averaged a pathetic 2 goal per game during the playoffs, and just cost themselves a trip to the finals and quite possibly a Stanley Cup as a result (note to posters I saw in this thread; 5 wins from the Cup doesn’t equate to being ‘two years away”).
You also continue to perpetuate “Parise the Future Ranger” notion without much reason, Carp.
At best your assuming a player who goes to the finals and loses won’t want to return to the team he is captain of and finish what he started. Or you’re assuming he’ll leave a Stanley Cup champion to come here and be a non-captain, for what exactly, I don’t know.
You Mr Carpiniello, were also the guy saying repeatedly you didn’t think Ilya Kovalchuk was all that and he wouldnt be such a great fit for the Rangers.
Kovalchuk now leads all playoff scorers (after hurting us badly in this series).
I’d be embarrassed if I were as wrong as you were, again & again, but Im sure you’ll come up with some clever remark about a shine box, blah, blah.
Papa Bear—-My kids have grown up away from the area, as we left NJ when the youngest was 3. 2 other kids were born in Denver. Both boys play hockey, and are not Ranger fans first. The daughter in the middle is. However, this run, they were with me watching with their heritage jerseys on that I bought them, and were truly upset when they lost last night. I feel guilty to have burdened them to be Ranger fans. Hopefully, they will get the cup soon so they won’t have to wait as long as I did.
once again, incorrect Floppy Feet. I thought Kovalchuk might be an ideal fit, better than Gaborik, better than Richards. But the Rangers didn’t want him. That’s what I reported.
And, Floppy, I’ve said for years that their shortcoming is scoring, or front-line skill level.
Mostly, Floppy, the Zach Parise thing is a joke and everybody who has any kind of sense of humor gets it. He’s sure to be their No. 1 target this summer. So Future Ranger is, you know, tongue-in-cheek.
One more thing, Floppy. I don’t believe I banned your clownish aasen. But if I did, you must have deserved it. Because I sure haven’t banned people for disagreeing with me, no matter how clownish their act is.
Can’t wait for trade deadline so you can give me more scoops.
I think before we make decisions on who should stay and who should go we have to decide if we are going to be playing the exact same style next year or not. Are we going to be a lunch pail team that works hard every night and tries to climb to the head of the regular season class? Some would argue that it was fatigue that did this team in- certainly the Devils, while playing well, were really not a superior team IMO anymore than the Sens or Caps would have been had they gotten a lucky bounce and knocked us out in one of the previous rounds. This was a team that was tired coming into the playoffs- without checking I’ll bet their record over the last month of the season was around .500- that tiredness produced two seven game series against inferior opponents that pushed them to the brink. It should be a serious discussion if we want to follow that road again- because if we do then it would be better to spread out the money we plan to spend and use it on depth. I’m sure in confidence the Rangers are sorry now that they didn’t plunge at the deadline for a serviceable defenseman to keep Stu Bickel in a suit for the playoffs. Lesson learned, one hopes. You can’t have enough playable bodies at this time of the year. Credit to the Devils, who I often criticized for short benching the entire first half of the season. They figured it out and brought in guys like Carter and Bernier (the very definition of playable bodies) Ponachorofsky (sic) Zidlicky, and rolled four lines and six defenseman. Naturally, the Rangers lack of energy is what allowed them to use six defenseman (so much of the game was played in our zone)- but again, they realized that HL had some kind of hand problem that made it difficult for him to catch the puck in certain positions (think back to the Cap series) and they exploited it by simply putting the puck on him and going for the rebound. (Still can’t figure out why HL didn’t glove and hold Kovys initial shot?) Whatever is decided, I’ll be on board as always- in fact right now I can’t wait for next season!
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LOL @ ‘Floppy Feet’
Thank you. I’ll be back next season. Don’t forget to tip your waitress
Rangers still rule!!!!!
Screw ya Devil , hope ya get SWEPT by 8th seed LA.
What if....Zuccarello was healthy during the playoffs and played against the Devils?
Brilliant play against the Devs during the season…he set it all up…
As for Carp and the Kovalchuk thing… Look at the post game article from March 6..
“7) Kovalchuk=Monster when he wants to be. I still think he’s the one the Rangers let get away. Let’s put it this way, he’s way better than Rick Nash. And better than Brad Richards. And better than future Ranger Zach Parise.”
Doesnt sound to me like he disrespected him.
Rod , you look like an idiot ranting at Carp , ohhh you so cool you sure told Carp. NOT!!
Your a clown, I bet I can get over 20 people on here to agree , so GET LOST.
Marathon tommorow morning!!!
IM pumped Carp!!! BIG TIME!!! ..but my heart is still broken.
I’m in a marathon tomorrow, too, Greg. Going to try to sleep 26.2 hours.
anyone who thinks Parise is coming here to be a shot blocker is dead wrong . Nash is not a shot blocker,Gabby is not a shot blocker, Tort’s mentallity of block shots or lose ice time , is bull . these type guys are scorers not defensemen . if you want these type of guy’s you have to have a more open offense. or at least an offensive game plan . which the Rangers don’t have .
Carp-thanks for everything this year. I was wondering whether our would insider having a another live chat on July 1? This way we can all chat lev on the opening of free agency.
Great story about your daughter, Nasty.
Rod is back with his ‘I Told you so’s’ and his arrogance. Just graaaaaaaaaaaaate!
Had some more perspective this evening…. losing sucks. but there is something so satisfying about sitting at your nephew’s baseball game on an early summer evening and cheering as they win in their last at bat.
Does “Ron + Duguay” = ROD?!
They know about the same amount of hockey.
I’m getting suspicious…
Marathon Greg? You crazy! HAHA. I’m going to marathon some beers and s’mores at a Memorial Day BBQ
You would think the loss would keep the idiots away like Nostradumbass. Your team won. Go on your own blog and have a party.
Hey Carp, is voting done on regular season awards yet? I’m worried that if the Kings win the Cup, Quick will get the Vezina and Malkin will get the Hart.
Ballots are already submitted. Must be submitted before playoffs start or right around that time.
Well Carp , if ya sleep 26.2 hours you better start drinking!! HAHA!!
Mickey , crazy I am . You Marathon those beers and you’ll be sleeping like Carp , hehe .
No game seven. Brutal . Im off!!
Thanks, TFBRW&B. So there’s a good chance we’ll get something special to celebrate in the coming weeks!
I remember you being very wishy washy on Kovalchuk Carp.
but you always said the Rangers were not interested.
Not sure if it was wishy-washy, or if I just wasn’t sure if they could afford him and if he’d then be worth that kind of contract. But I knew that, unlike the last two big-ticket free agents the Rangers signed, one before Kovalchuk’s availability, one after, he was legitimately one of the top 10-15 players in the league, top 25 at worst. The other two are not in the top 25, or even close.
If that’s wishy-washy, then I was. But the Rangers didn’t think he was worth it then, didn’t like his makeup, and still don’t. Not sure how he could have fit with Torts’ system, or how Torts’ system might have been able to be better with him. I don’t know.
Yes, votes for all the awards were cast at the end of the season. We already know the three finalists for all the awards. And some independent firm that tabulates the ballot results knows the winners.
ANF, I don’t know if a live chat would work on July 1 because of the amount of traffic we have here. Each comment has to be moderated and approved in a live chat. Maybe we can do something the day before and/or day after … or maybe we can have a chat in the morning on July 1 for an hour or so.
You’re correct Bull Dog, Carp was VERY wishy washy on Kovalchuk as a Ranger (note to Ranger Report Retards; don’t attack BullDog for daring to suggest your blogfather was wrong. Attack me instead. Im used to it).
Carp was also wrong about the NYR level of interest in Kovalchuk, as reported by Elliot Friedman of the Canadien Press, who wrote more than once that the Rangers did make an offer for Kovalchuk.
And I really have no interest in continuing this Carp; it’s pointless and I’m still seething over their losses, especially after being up 2-1 in the series.
But to say you don’t remember banning me is ludicrous!
You banned me at least 3 times, maybe 4!
Ok good. I know the playoffs are not supposed to effect the results but you never know with the way Bettman does things.
I’d like nothing more than to see Hank get rewarded for what he gave all of us this season. He truly deserves to be considered the #1 star in the league.
Haven’t you seen the new PSAs about using the “R” word? Why are you so callous and indifferent to the plight of others in your world?
Oh and the Rangers passing on Nash, and on Kovalchuk before that, signifies to me that Parise is the man in the plans for years and the Dolan vault will be thrust open for him. Tortorella got Richards because that’s his disciple, Parise is another one from Team USA.
Oh, well, then if I banned you I must have had a reason. So I’m banning you again.
Carp, Good point about logistics. I think it would be fun to try and get a live chat the day before or morning of July 1. Though, as an aside, I tend to agree with your opinion that the season may not tart on time.
Hope those floppy feet don’t clog the plumbing.
CARP——new nickname…....Der Flushmeister! No one will miss any of them as they circle the bowl.
Probably won’t watch the finals unless the Devils are about to be eliminated. If that happens, I will absolutely want to see it.
kovalchuk is a much better semin. i am glad the rangers did not get him. defensively he is horrible, his shifts are 90 seconds. he is talented but definitely does not fit into the present rangers..kovalchuk only was resposble for giving up a ton of shorties this year with his gambling on the PP..
his contract is horrible also….
kovalchuk is leading the nhl in points during the playoffs!!!!!!!whiptydoo he played 6 more games already then Giroux….teams that have long runs often lead in playoffs stats..
the rangers had to play this style because they just do not have enough offense yet, the good thing is they are young and many of there forwards can improve there productivity…
i say stay the course if you cannot get a parise(long shot ) just try to make small moves to improve depth and hopefully a prospect or 2 will malke the next step…..........can’t figure out why kreider played so little last night, he played great accept for passing to boyle when he should have shot…......
Kreider will at least be what Billy Guerin was.
if healthy the rangers have the best young d corp in the game by far….
they have a world class goalie and 2 forward lines.. they need an upgrade in 3 or 4 forwards and they are contenders. that can be subtle upgrades or drastic.
kreider will be with the team the whole season and smae with hagelin 2 legit nhl speed burners and 1 has the chance to be real good…
i let feds, emminger, worwitka, and stralman walk…prust gets a minimal raise else adios…. look at erixon and sauer and pray for mcdonaghs buddy from Wisconsin for the back end… look to get more speed up front and see what happens… boyle and dubi for the right deal are movable assets big time….......
kreider at 30 goals makes a huge difference for next years team..
watched the winning goal again before man the rangers had about 4 chances to stop the play but did not. weak weak goal and weak defensive zone play. gabby did his usual on that play and richards was flailing all over the place…richards and gabby really did zilch against the debbies and there world class d corp of; harrold, zidlicky, fayne,volchenkov, greene, and salvador.. not exactly the old canadiens of robinson, savard, engblom, lapointe and about 4 other hall of famers…....
the ranger lack of forecheck and simple plays to get the puck out of there zone was the story…................pressure the debbies d and they cough the puck up left and right and fat boy does not stick handle like he use to…..
kings will win in 5 or 6…........
They’re showing 50 Greatest Moments at MSG on the tube, and they just had Matteau on. We’ll ALWAYS have that on the Swamp Rats!
Make it seven five
Kovalchuk and Torts would have NEVER worked. It’d be like putting oil and water together. Only with flammable results.
that’s probably why they weren’t interested, even if Elliot Freidman told somebody they were.
a whole 6 flushes in one day. i like it!
Discuss the possibility of playing all out aggresssive checking offensive hockey where you show some creativity as opposed to a blocking shot system that impedes creativity and makes human targets out of grown men and relies on a goaltender playing God literally every game.
I also see Hagelin as a third liner and a premier penalty killer in the future. Speed is a wonderful thing. Did he ever play center in college? He seems kind of small to be doing all that grinding.