Devils at Rangers tonight


Pre-game notes courtesy of the NYR:

Monday, Mar. 19, 7:30 p.m.
Madison Square Garden – New York, NY
Rangers: 44-20-7 (95 pts)
Devils: 41-26-5 (87 pts)

* All information through NHL games on Mar. 17

The Rangers will face-off against the New Jersey Devils at Madison Square Garden (7:30 p.m.; TV: NBC Sports Network; Radio: 1050 ESPN Radio), in an Atlantic Division match-up. The Blueshirts currently sit atop the Eastern Conference standings, and rank second in the league overall, with a record of 44-20-7 (95 pts). The Rangers enter the contest having been defeated by the Colorado Avalanche, 3-1, on Saturday at Madison Square Garden, and are now 2-2-0 on their current seven-game homestand. The Devils enter the contest with a 41-26-5 (87 pts) record to rank sixth in the Eastern Conference, and have lost two of their last three games. Following the contest, the Rangers will face-off against the Detroit Red Wings on Wednesday, Mar. 21, at Madison Square Garden (7:30 p.m.), in an Original Six match-up.

* All-Time: 100-84-27-6 overall (55-30-20-2 at home; 45-54-7-4 on the road)
* 2011-12: Tonight is the sixth and final meeting this season, and the third at Madison Square Garden. New York is 2-2-1 overall (1-1-0 at home; 1-1-1 on the road) following a 2-0 win on Feb. 27 at MSG. Three of their five meetings have been decided by two goals or less. Carl Hagelin leads the team with four assists and six points, and is tied with Marian Gaborik (two goals, three assists) for the team lead with two goals. Henrik Lundqvist is 2-2-0 with a 1.26 GAA, .947 Sv% and one shutout, while Martin Biron is 0-0-1 in 2.77 GAA and .897 Sv%.
* Last Season: New York was 4-2-0 overall (2-1-0 at home; 2-1-0 on the road). The Rangers held the Devils to one or fewer goals in four of the six meetings, and out-scored New Jersey, 16-8, in the series. Brandon Dubinsky led the team with four goals and seven points, while Artem Anisimov tallied a team-high, five assists in six games. Henrik Lundqvist was 4-2-0 with a 1.44 GAA, .953 Sv% and one shutout.
* 12 of their last 16 meetings have been decided by two goals or less
* New York ranks sixth with a 24-9-2 (50 pts) record at home; New Jersey ranks fourth with a 21-13-2 (44 pts) mark on the road
* The Rangers are 13-6-2 vs. the Atlantic Division; the Devils are 12-9-0 vs. the Atlantic Division
* New York lists one former Devil on their roster: Mike Rupp (2002-03 – 2003-04, 2006-07 – 2008-09)
* New Jersey lists one former Ranger on their roster: Petr Sykora (2005-06)

* Henrik Lundqvist — 40 GP, 24-11-5, 1.79 GAA, 6 SO
* Martin Biron — 31 GP, 8-15-2-3, 3.14 GAA, 2 SO
* Brad Richards — 37 GP, 5-27-32
* Marian Gaborik — 23 GP, 8-12-20
* Dan Girardi — 34 GP, 0-13-13

The Rangers penalty kill has held opponents scoreless in six of the last nine games (25-28, 89.3%), and are 30-34 (88.2%) in the last 11 contests. The Rangers are tied for sixth in the NHL with seven shorthanded goals. The Blueshirts have posted a record of 20-1-4 in games when tallying a power play goal, and are 29-11-3 when not allowing a power play goal.
* Power Play: The Rangers did not tally a goal in five power play attempts (10:00) on Saturday vs. New Jersey. New York ranks 29th overall (34-239, 14.2%) and is tied for 23rd at home (19-128, 14.8%). The Rangers are 3-15 (11:31) in five-on-three situations (last – 3/13 vs. CAR), and 2-9 (12:08) when four-on-three (last – 3/11 vs. NYI). Shorthanded goals allowed (3): 12/5 vs. TOR (Steckel); 12/8 vs. TBL (Moore); 12/17 at PHX (Korpikoski).
* Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts surrendered one goal to the Avalanche in two shorthanded situations (2:54) on Saturday at MSG. New York ranks fifth overall (197-228, 86.4%) and is tied for eighth at home (89-105, 84.8%). The Rangers are 8-9 (4:34) in three-on-five situations (last – 2/16 vs. CHI), and 2-3 (2:24) when three-on-four (last – 2/16 vs. CHI). Shorthanded goals for (7): 10/20 at CGY (Prust); 12/8 vs. TBL (Anisimov); 12/10 at BUF (Hagelin); 12/10 at BUF (Callahan); 12/20 at NJD (Hagelin); 1/6 at PIT (Dubinsky); 2/12 vs. WSH (Prust).
* Four-on-Four: New York did not skate in a four-on-four situation on Saturday vs. New Jersey. The Rangers are plus-six in 76 four-on-four situations (135:49), and even in two three-on-three situations (0:38). Four-on-four goals for (9): 10/18 at VAN (Gaborik); 10/20 at CGY (McDonagh); 10/27 vs. TOR (Girardi); 1/2 vs. FLA (Gaborik); 2/9 vs. TBL (Stepan); 2/9 vs. TBL (Richards); 2/14 at BOS (Anisimov); 2/19 vs. CBJ (Stepan), 2/25 vs. BUF (Callahan). Four-on-four goals allowed (3): 2/9 vs. TBL (Lecavalier); 2/25 vs. BUF (Stafford); 3/2 at TBL (Malone).

The Blueshirts held the Devils to a season-low, 13 shots against in their last meeting on Feb. 27, a 2-0 win that marked the Rangers’ 100th all-time victory against the New Jersey Devils’ franchise. The 13 shots were the fewest allowed by the Rangers in a game since they held Calgary to 11 shots on goal on Jan. 19, 1981 at MSG. *courtesy of the Elias Sports Bureau

SINCE 2007-08
The Rangers are 19-8-3 overall (10-4-1 at home; 9-4-2 on the road) against the Devils since 2007-08, dating back to a 2-0 win on Oct. 25, 2007. Henrik Lundqvist is 19-8-2 with a 1.96 GAA, .930 Sv% and six shutouts in 29 games over the span.

Henrik Lundqvist has faced-off against Martin Brodeur in 33 career regular season games, posting a record of 22-6-5 with a 1.72 GAA, .936 Sv% and five shutouts over the span.

* New York is 2-2-0 on their current seven-game homestand
* Henrik Lundqvist is 1-1-0 with a 2.40 GAA; Martin Biron is 1-1-0 with a 3.50 GAA
* Brad Richards leads the team in scoring with four goals and eight points
* Marian Gaborik (three goals, four assists) and Richards are tied for the team-high with four assists apiece
* The seven-game homestand is tied as the longest in franchise history, and is their longest since 2001-02
* The Blueshirts’ previous seven-game homestands were in 1969-70 (4-0-3-0), 1972-73 (4-3-0-0), 1977-78 (3-3-1-0), and 2001-02 (3-2-1-1)
* The Rangers are one of five teams with a homestand of seven or more games on their 2011-12 regular season schedule (Winnipeg – 8, Colorado – 8, Tampa Bay – 7, Vancouver – 7).

The Blueshirts’ 24-9-2 (50 pts) mark at MSG is their best record at home through 35 games since 1993-94 (23-7-5, 51 pts).

The Rangers established a new NHL record by not allowing five goals in a single game in 69 games to begin the season. *courtesy of the Elias Sports Bureau

First-year forward Carl Hagelin continues to climb up the NHL rookie scoring charts despite only playing in 53 games this season. He currently ranks fifth in the league in rookie scoring with 35 points, is tied for fourth with 21 assists and ranks seventh with 14 goals. He also leads all NHL rookies and is tied for 15th overall with a plus-22 rating, is tied for second among first-year players with two shorthanded goals/points, and ranks third among rookies who have played at least 50 games with a .66 points per game average. Since his NHL debut on November 25, Hagelin ranks second among NHL rookies in points, goals and shots on goal (110), and is tied for second in assists.

The Rangers’ .669 win% is the team’s best record through 71 games in 39 years, when the 1972-73 Blueshirts began the season with a 45-19-7 record (.683 win%), and is the fourth best mark in franchise history. The Rangers reached the 40-win mark in 61 games, which is tied as the second fastest to 40-wins in franchise history.

The Rangers rank among the NHL leaders in several statistical categories…
* 2nd in points (95)
* 2nd in win% (.669)
* T-2nd in wins (44)
* 2nd in regulation/overtime wins (41)
* T-2nd in fewest regulation losses (20)
* 3rd in fewest goals against (153)
* 3rd in GAA (2.16)
* 1st in hits (2,098)
* 4th in blocked shots (1,156)
* 4th in +/- rating (plus-36)
* 6th in goal differential (plus-37)

* This is the latest the Rangers have been in first place of the Eastern Conference standings since the team captured the Presidents’ Trophy during the 1993-94 season. *courtesy of the Elias Sports Bureau
* New York has registered at least one point in 46 of their last 63 games (41-17-5), dating back to Oct. 29, after beginning the season with a 3-3-2 mark
* New York is 17-2-3 when leading after the first period and 27-0-3 when leading after the second
* The Rangers rank third in the league with a .250 win% when trailing after two periods (5-14-1); The Blueshirts are tied for ninth in the NHL with five third period comeback wins, and have trailed entering the third in only 19 games this season (second fewest in the NHL)
* New York leads the NHL with a .706 win% when out-shooting their opponent (24-9-1)
* The Rangers rank second in the league when scoring first, posting a 31-4-3 mark (.816 win%) in those contests; Their 31 wins are tied for second in the NHL

* Brad Richards — 15 points (five goals, 10 assists) in the last 12 games; 10 points (five goals, five assists) in the last six games
* Marian Gaborik — 13 points (six goals, seven assists) in the last 10 games; eight points (three goals, five assists) in the last five games
* Carl Hagelin — 12 points (five goals, seven assists) in the last 12 games

* Michael Sauer (concussion, 12/5) — 47
* Artem Anisimov (injured, 3/15) — 1
* Steve Eminger (injured, 3/15) — 1
Total Man-Games Lost: 206

* Mar. 17 — Recalled defenseman Tim Erixon from Connecticut (AHL)

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  1. Azucarnutello on

    Ho detto questa ayer en la nota: me just perlare one a ting…eric and his banda of negativo nancies…this a equipo going to make a nice in playoff…byfuglienculo a tutti qui no recordoro questa…hai capito?

  2. Good morning, boneheads!

    Beat the Devils tonite, and they officially make the playoffs!

  3. Tony
    In the air to AZ. Better warm up and get to watch the boys kick ass in the afternoon. Weeeee

  4. Two tickets for tonights game. Face value, section 426 row C right off the aisle. These are my season tickets so I can email them to make it easier. Email me if interested.

  5. azucarnutello on

    si,, ctb..sugarnutello como il regazzo zuccarello! madonna mia mi piace zuccarello! forza rangers!

  6. Negative Nancy on

    This team better win tonite or me, Rod, Boom-Boom, fire-torts, E No and the rest of my posse are going to let you know the end is near!

  7. azucarnutello on

    questa noche vedire rangers and il zuccarello wit a nice pan fill wit a nutella! mangiamo!

  8. Must win Tonite. Div all but gone but more importantly 3 pt lead on Phil for home ice for 4th. I will say it again if the rangers blow this Div as well as 4th seed and home ice vs Phil and finish 5th it is inexcusable from where this team was on march 4th after they beat boston and had a 10 pt lead on the rest of the conf.

    The ultimate disgrace would be if they lost a game 7 in Phil on a goal by jagr to win it. That’s why they need to get there butt in gear now.

    It’s panic time

  9. So if the Rangers hold onto the first seed but get swept in the first round that’s perfectly acceptable?

  10. Look

    This handwriting has been on the screen for most of this past season. The glaring mistakes were never addressed ( the passing game and the standing around PP, etc.) The constant attempts at dump and chase which sometimes worked but more often did not, the self delusional attitude due to some spectacular heroics by LQ, and the occasional sprightliness of the rookie brigade. The team has been inconsistent for way too long. They seem to be unknowledgeable when it comes to pattern performance. Scrambly hockey has been sometimes working well for them but when they face a highly disciplined and coached team, they show their weaknesses. Cautionary note….don’t over expect from them, they have too many weaknesses that have not, and most likely will not be addressed.

  11. The Rangers “blowing” the division is really more about PIT going on an 11 game winning streak than it is about NYR “blowing” anything.

    I agree it will be painful to lose the division after being so far on top for so long, but the Rangers have had a hell of a season that no one expected, regardless.

    Falling out of 1st may keep them honest down the stretch/playoffs also. Never know. PIT is just too hot right now and there’s nothing we can really do about them until we face them.

    This is when you wish you had a Rick Nash though. PIT is on fire and it’s only a matter of time before Sid comes back to life for real.

    Am I the only one that already has a distaste for Kreider? I just don’t anticipate a “great” college player to have the profound impact immediately that people seem to want to believe in…and I’ll always consider him the primary reason we didn’t get Nash.

  12. Looks like a keeper, LW. I was hoping to acquire the murderous Ladislav Scurko since he has been released from prison. But Panik could be just as good.

  13. Carp,

    The two biggest stats from the Rangers-Lanch game were the 0 for 5 PP and the final tally on hits. Rangers were outhit 27-17. The players are mentally and physically tired and not hitting the way they were a few weeks ago. Don’t think it is time for panic. Hopefully they can get back to their grinding ways when the playoffs start. PP did look a bit better against Colorado, but they could not finish as usual.

  14. The Rangers were outhit because they possessed the puck about 80% of the game. It’s a @RED HERRING@ as Orr would say.

  15. Manny,

    To an extent yes and Colorado is not the easiet team to hit. But I was at the game they were not initiating hits at all. Prust and Boyle have hit the wall, Del Zotto is banged up and Callahan did not hit anybody with the bad foot.

  16. I guess I can’t argue with you since you were there. You win. I was all the way in Brooklyn watching on some invention called “The Tube.”

  17. I will take out-shooting a team by 20 shots any day of the week than out-hitting a team.

  18. Negative Nancy on

    Eric and Fran – that’s the ticket!

    The season is over, fire Torts, sack Sather, destroy Dolan, trade everyone, bring back Avery!

    The smiling lemmings on the Pollyanna Express who think this team has a chance in Hell are a delusional bunch of unknowing fools.

  19. The team has been inconsistent for way too long.


    Love this, you realize it took this team 60 something games into the season to lose 3 games in a row in regulation.

  20. And about 70 games to give up 5 real goals (not team goals for the shoot out) in a game.

  21. We’ve seen Kharlamov do this before. My guess is he’s peaking too soon. Since he’s raised the bar for goaltending at the Garden let’s see of Hank can top it.

  22. It’s not hits that are the problem its scoring. There is little room for error when you don’t have secondary scoring. There is rarely more than one line going at once. Kreider might help but if the rangers are going to send this season well they just have to buckle down on d. And let’s be honest they should have beat the AVS if they play like that they’re gonna win some games down the stretch

  23. I like playing flyers better than Caps. Best order is 1. Fla 2. Ottawa 3. Philly 4.NJ 5.Caps 6.Boston 7.pens

  24. 8 of their last 9 games they’ve given up 3+ goals. That’s as big of a concern and a deviation from their game this season as some scoring droughts.

  25. Do you guys remember when the team was slowing down a couple games ago yet finding a way to win? Well the dominated the other night and looked like a much better team than they had in the last 5-6 games, they just ran into a hot goalie and lost. That’s just how things go sometimes. I definitely think they played much better than they have in awhile.

    People can say the PP didn’t score, but they had SO many chances. The one Richards shot off the rebound where Varly literally sprawled across and stopped it with his glove was incredible.

    The way the played the other night, they’ll win most games. They had shots from the slot that sometimes Varly didn’t even see, yet he happened to get his glove there. Kid was on fire. If they play the same way tonight, they’ll beat the Devils pretty handily.

  26. rangers were out hit by the lanche because they had the puck all game. the lanche never had the puck and almost no sustained possesion in the rangers zone.

    any reasonable person would admit the rangers dominated the lanche and should have won…..

  27. Speaking of Kreider, Frozen Four Regionals are out and as much as I hate rooting AGAINST a team I am hoping that either Air Force or winner of Maine (ugh) and Minny Duluth steps up big against BC and allow Kreider a little more time to be fresh and signed and adjusted to playoff hockey. The alternative of BC winning their regional puts Kreider on the ice for his last (hopefully) college game on Sat. 4/7, the night of the Rangers last reular season game.

    Although I have suggested Kreider can play the role of the Messiah it is more for the entertainment value of this blog. The word Messiah on a fanatical blog site where reality is somehwat obscured at times may be taken way to seriously. He could make an immediate impact as it has been done in the past by someplayers making their NHL debut in the playoffs, but everyone out there should not live and die by his play thinking he’s going to carry the team. We do have a pretty good team alrady if and when he decides to play for us, including a world-class goalie and EVERYONE needs to ready to go.

    I for you would love to see what might happen if the current team WITH Krieder is assembled for the playoffs. With the current line makeup still intact come playoff time, putting him with Stepan and Cally couldn’t hurt secondary scoring. . . . . and the PP? . . . Let’s stop dreaming, romanticizing. Sign him and drop the playoff puck.

  28. A bad stretch never just happens. You slide into it by winning a few games you shouldn’t have and you start to come out of it when you lose games you shouldn’t have. The Rangers are coming out of it. The Rangers will be fine. Who cares about winning the conference or division. They need to get hot as they enter the playoffs. Let Pitt peak now. Fine by me.

  29. I have to attend a town hall meeting tonight with a client of mine and I am SO happy that the game starts at 7:30PM so I can hear the beautiful voice of Dave Maloney on my ride home.

  30. Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given food to eat. If everyone that reads this donates just $1, countless lives will be saved. $1 feeds 4 kids.

  31. I have been quiet around here lately because I feel like if I open my mouth the floor will drop out from underneath me. However, last night I had a dream that Henrik headed a puck and was knocked out cold. Woke me up in a cold sweat. I’m truly losing my mind…

  32. Emrick says this at least 5 times a game: “he passes the puck back ahead”. I’m sure you have heard him.

    Back ahead???? You can pass the puck back. You can pass the puck ahead. But in 45 years of watching hockey, I have never seen anyone pass a puck back ahead.

    Emrick is just a buffoon that has no idea of what he is saying.

  33. I did hear, from Better Rod, that Artem Anisimov was not going to play this year or next because of a torn ligament in his shoulder that would require surgery.

  34. Salty, you make too much sense. And I agree that it is extremely unlikely Kreider plays any type of meaningful role this year (though he will be signed, more on that later). I just think the package that included Stepan and Del Zotto was more what held up the Nash deal than Kreider.

    Good morning, Sally!

  35. Balcony Bob…I must disagree with you on Doc…Love listening to the guy call a game. Other than Jim Hughson on the CBC for HNIC, he’s probably my favorite.

  36. czechthemout!!!! on

    It’s amazing to read from some of the posters that despite what the GM of the team says about Kreider joining the Rangers right after college, they still insist without any knowledge that it won’t happen. Like they know it for a fact. Amazing!

    This Justin Schultz kid Brooks wrote about yesterday would a huge get for us. I watched him play as a frosh three years ago when watching Stepan and McD. This kid was really good then. Apparently, he is even better now. He could be the answer to our pp point shooter in that he can blast the puck off of the pass and his overall offensive game is better than MDZ’s. Let’s hope Stepan and McD can sell him on coming here.

  37. I just cannot see Torts throwing Kreider into the fire this late in the season without any experience in Torts’ system. Whether Hags, Sauer, McD, Erixon, etc. except for Stepan, Torts has never thrown someone to the wolves immediately without playing in Hartford and getting to play “the right way” before getting a true shot with the big club.

    I think Torts’ stays focused on the future and makes sure Kreider is ready to make the big club next year rather than force him into Playoff Hockey immediately

  38. @CCCP@ to answer your question – most of the nation cares since the NFL is the #1 sport.

  39. Could you imagine if Tebow got traded to the Jets? They would have the worst two QB’s in the league on their roster!

  40. czechthemout!!!!

    the same way you were insisting that McIlrath is a bust and won’t be anything more than just a 3rd pair D after watching him play only few games at the Traverse City? ;)

  41. It’s also pretty absurd to think that a kid that’s never played for a coach that stresses learning a system and is a pretty big believer in having everyone buy into the same team concept is going to get major ice time right away against NHL caliber defenses when the games mean their most either the last few games of the regular season or the playoffs.

  42. Kreider is not going to replace a regular in the lineup without practicing with the team for a while; is not going to jump right out of the Frozen Four into the Stanley Cup playoffs; but he is going to sign.

  43. “the same way you were insisting that McIlrath is a bust and won’t be anything more than just a 3rd pair D after watching him play only few games at the Traverse City”


    This is *Torts’* team. If he wants Kreider then he’ll get him into the lineup. But it’s not gonna happen.

  44. Wicky©No pears, No apples, Where's my pineapple?! on

    Ha good, no more of this tebow boucher!!

    you should have know by now the season was over when we didn’t put avery on the first line!!

  45. Wicky©No pears, No apples, Where's my pineapple?! on

    that schultz kid must be awesome, we should trade him for fowler or just get rid of mdz!!

  46. btw ORR

    Congrats on advancing to the “Carped 4 Life” finals! Great start to your NHL Fantasy career! The Mouth and I will square off for third best!

    Im also playing for third best in wicky’s league… i was leading Grabby all week long by like 40 points or so and on the last day of the week he beat me by just TWO POINTS to advance to the finals against LW! I was hoping for all euro-pansy battle for the title but will play wicky himself for third best!

  47. Carp:

    I agree with Czechthemout. There are people here who have been claiming that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES would Kreider play for the rangers this year, be it regular season or playoffs.

    While I agree that there is no way he plays if we are talking Frozen four into the playoffs. (barring a bad injury) I also think that if BC ends their season with time left in the regular season that you will see Kreider in a regular season game.

    That is just my opinion.

  48. did the flyers pass us yet? lol.

    am i the most negative on this blog.

    let me say even the biggest optimist on this blog will be pissed if we lose a first round series to phil in seven games on the road should we finish 5th. lots of people on here dont care about div or home ice i just see things differently.

  49. Speaking of Kreider, did anyone see his stick disintegrate when he took a slapshot in the Hockey East championship game?

  50. Wicky©No pears, No apples, Where's my pineapple?! on

    well done with the fantasy recap!! LW kicked my aasen!!

    I have a spot reserved for you next season in my league! I want to see how you do without the goalie shuffle you do so well!!

  51. home ice is meaningless. in fact I’d dare say the Rangers might be better off on the road with the way they play; not that I think they will open on the road whatsoever.

    division title is even more meaningless.

    Playing well into the playoffs is fairly important. and there’s no way to tell which opponent will be playing well at that time. that’s more important than who that opponent actually is — Philly or Ottawa or Florida or Washington. One of them, at least, is going to be surging into the playoffs.

  52. I’m not going crazy right now as allot of ranger fans are because I objectively had this team finishing 7th over all in the eastern conference before the season started. I think torts had them playing playoff hockey for most of the season and that’s why I think the rangers were leading the east plus other teams having injuries. The only problem with torts riding the rangers every game is it becomes taxing mentally and physically. Than you mix in the injuries to key players with a brutal schedule in march and you have a team reeling. It wouldn’t surprise me if the rangers finish 4th in there division. The only thing I could wish for is for torts to cut Girardi’s and Mcdonah’s ice time so they can recharge the batteries for the playoffs and do the same for other key ranger players, most notable, lundqvist. Hopefully this team gets mentally and physically recharged for the playoffs because if they don’t it will be a first round exit.

  53. If what I have been lead to believe previously, that signing Kreider NOW means the Rangers lose a year of rights retainment, why would they sign Kreider and not use him NOW. Otherwise, if my assumption is correct, it’s idiotic for the rangers to sign him this season.

    It must be if he signs AND plays this season in the NHL that the year is lost to the Rangers. Can someone confirm what is the current rule?

    I still think Kreider is big enough and fast enough and smart enough to not disrupt the fragility of the Torts system without the default waiting period and if we continue to struggle with offense it’s not a slam-dunk that he will not play.

  54. Negative Nancy on

    When we lose tonight there will be a big party hosted by DJ Miami Pimp and the Sound Machine at Warren 77. Special guest DJ Sean Avery will host the John Scott Roller Disco Dance Off contest.

  55. Schultz being like McD with more offensive upside? I would love to see that. If they could get him, this team would be an embarrassment of riches on D. There would also have to be a trade coming. Imagine a healthy Staal, Girardi, MDZ, McD, Erixon, Bickel, Schultz (if he is as advertised) and a hopefully a healthy Sauer. You know some moves would be on the horizon. Not to mention Kreider looming on the horizon. If Fasth hadn’t gotten injured, he would be another player coming over next year and playing in CT and pushing for some time with the club in 2012-13… Not even including the potential signing of Parise. There will be trades next year.

  56. Carp, please answer ulfie28’s question when you tell us about Kreider.

    “signing Kreider NOW means the Rangers lose a year of rights re-attainment”.

    If he signs but doesn’t play would that make a difference with his rights?

  57. a few things:

    first, has there been any college grad who has made a serious impact in the spring of the year he got out of college? i don’t know. just curious and figure some of you sports data jocks would know. what about most impactful college player in first full NHL season? from the sound of a lot of the stuff on this blog, they will unretire 99 in the NHL in a few weeks if kreider joins?

    second, all that matters is april 10th and beyond. i am using hyperbole but you get the point. bruins last year lost the first 2 at home to montreal right? i am not saying the rangers want to go into the postseason on their butts. but we earned the right (comfort zone) to lose a handful in-a-row. be thankful we went on so many long winning streaks along the way.

    third, we are banged up. no doubt. less hits than the avalanche? really? pathetic. and i think the “not emotionally getting into it,” is a cop out, BS excuse. 10 games left in the season and leading the conference and cannot get up for a game? that sounds like BS. they are tired and mbe played at higher caliber than we should have through the first 65. but this team is young. remember how we were slated for 6-7-8 this year? we outperformed through the first 65. now we need to dig deep and see if we can continue the effort. will their youth outshine their grit and ability to dig deep? tell you in 2 weeks.

    fourth, the only team that really scares me in a 7 game series is the Pens. they are team to beat. the devils, i am a little nervous on but moreso with ottawa who has has our # thi syear. we match up great against the flyers and the bruins. neither of those two scare me.

    fifth, to have any chance in the POs, we need cally and MDZ at 100%. obvously we need hank to be the man. but cally and MDZ are critical. bickel seems like a playoff liability, btw. and is staal regressing or fatigued do to

    sixth, it’d be nice to have PP that could score a goal once in 5 games.

    seventh, we have been losing games lately on bad bounces and mental gaffes. the bad bounces happen. nothing u can do about it. but the mental gaffes…again, are we young, are we tired, or are we just not as good as the first 65 proved? we’ll see.

    big game tonight. not a must win. but wd be nice to get a regulation win.

  58. Maybe this is crazy talk, but I thought they looked just fine on Saturday. Del Gato looked a little off his game but it was probably cause Fozzy basically assaulted him when he was walking into the Garden.

    I asked Prust if it was true that dinosaurs when extinct because he got hungry. He said yes. And he smiled at me and now I can die happy.

  59. Schultz and Kreider will be on the first PP unit before the season is over. Amazing I know, but this I know for a fact.

  60. 10 minutes of PP alone = 10 minutes where you generally not going to be hitting anyone

  61. I think they should trade Schultz for a second rounder while his value is still high…..

  62. czechthemout!!!! on


    Mcilrath is a bust when you consider that he was stared tenth overall in a good draft year. I also watched him some games for the CT Whale last year and he was awfull. I probably watched him play at least a dozen games so far and I still stand by the fact that he is at best a # 5-6 dman. If he even makes the team with so many dmen way ahead of him. Especially if we also add that Schultz kid. As for Fowler, he has 67 points in 149 games, not too bad when you consider he is only 20! Mcilrath, still in junior hockey and at least another two years away from even trying to make the team.

  63. Of course, now I have to do some Justin Schultz research: 6′ 1″ or 6′ 2″ and 185 lbs. Excellent offensive game and has taken great strides in his D. Works very hard at improving his D and has an excellent work ethic.

    Sounds like a player this team needs on the PP.

  64. The only knock on his game is that he is tall and skinny, and therefore will probably never be a physical D, but is a student of the game and works hard on positioning. His offensive upside along with his desire to play D and excellent work ethic make this kid a smart signing if he become a FA.

  65. *Mrs. White* : a lunatic! He didn’t actually seem to like me very much; he had threatened to kill me in public.

    *Miss Scarlet* : Why would he wanna kill you in public?

    *Wadsworth *: I think she meant he threatened, in public, to kill her.

  66. Doodie Machetto on

    Dave Maloney is going to be on Marek vs. Wyshynski today. The show starts at 2, but I don’t know when he’s going to be on. Should be worth listening to, even if you don’t listen to the show.

  67. Someone asked me both before the season and after the Game #3 “firetorts impending disaster” disaster against the Fishsticks that left the Rangers floundering at 0-1-2:

    Would you be relatively satisfied if the Rangers were first in the conference on March 19, with a chance to clinch a playoff spot with 10 games left in the season?

    (a) Hell, yes.
    (b) I’m expecting a good season, so it sounds about right.
    (c) Not if they get there by inexcusably going 2-5 while the Penguins win 11 straight, generally being “inconsistent” by winning some games and losing some (but far fewer) games and displaying irreversible signs of fatigue and horrible coaching by only racking up an inexcusable 17 hits against an inexcusably bad, but much fresher Colorado team.

    Naturally, I chose option (c).

  68. “…will probably never be a physical D, but is a student of the game and works hard on positioning.”

    Wicky is gonna love this guy then.

  69. LW3H – It seems like they meant that he wouldn’t throwing lots of checks. You can’t survive too long in the NHL if you just live on the stick check unless you have unreal offensive talent. Regardless, if they can sign him for nothing, nothing lost, as I am sure everybody here would agree. He may be Tom Poti 2.0, or he could be a very serviceable offensive D. It would be cool to see what he does.

  70. Doing a quick breeze through the 2010 draft class, it looks like 11 of the 220 picks that year have actually played in an NHL game. Rangers shouldn’t feel so bad that they picked one of the 209 busts from that year too, the odds were stacked against them.

  71. Looking at the standings, it’s a long shot, but the Canes have a slim shot at making the playoffs. They’re only six points out. Crazy.

    Can you imagine that? NYR vs Canes! Stahl vs Staal. Figure Skater! Pick your storyline!!

  72. JimboWoodside on

    Eric takes a lot of abuse for being negative, but I mostly agree with him. I’ve seen *way* too many “good” NYR regular-seasons that ended badly after miserable tailspins in the month of March.

    Just a little while ago everyone was saying “the team has only lost 12 games all season – and they’re not playing well?” Well, now they’ve lost *20* games.

    Is that not a reason to fear the trend?

  73. Jimbo, but this team sure as hell ain’t the last 17 teams. it’s got some holes. but it sure as hell ain’t the last 17 teams.

  74. ‘heads, let’s chill a bit. The NYR will finish no lower than fourth. If they play the way they did on Saturday, they WILL beat the Devils, Sabres and Leafs this week, and give the Wings a tough battile. That is six out of eight points righ there.

  75. Doodie, the ’96 squad was good until “Big Deal Neil” decided to goon things up and trade Lappy, Ferraro and Nordstrom to LA for a washed up Kurri, McSorley and 5th line player Churla.

  76. JimboWoodside on

    Carp, I don’t understand your reference to “the last 17 teams” – do you mean over the last 17 seasons?

    I’m just nervous about the team’s performance in the last 3-4 weeks. They are “anti-peaking” at precisely the wrong time of the year, while their divisional opponents are peaking. The NYR can’t control how divisional opponents are playing (except for beating them in head-to-head games, which they are *NOT* doing) but they can play better themselves to maintain as much of their good seeding position as they can.

  77. JimboWoodside on

    I will be very happy to be proven wrong, however. I’m not being negative for negative’s sake – I want this team to succeed!

  78. Dan Shea wrote:

    If Fasth hadn’t gotten injured, he would be another player coming over next year and playing in CT and pushing for some time with the club in 2012-13

    Dan, just so you know, Jesper is back and playing! Not only is he back, but in his second game he had 2 goals and an assist. Hopefully he will be here soon. We have had good luck with our Swedish prospects

  79. Just the right amount of negativity Jimbo, you can stay. Sunshine Tony and ANF, I don’t know about those two.

  80. I’m not being overly optimistic CT. However, say what you like, but being first in the conference on March 19 (despite a tough couple of weeks) is no accident. While I do not think they are President’s Trophy material, we have enough body of work to know that they are at least as good as NJ and Philly.

  81. I could be positive, but what good would that do?

    Actually, I think this team can still do some damage in the playoffs. If Lundqvist plays like he has most of the season they can beat anybody.

  82. Thank you Jimbo. I’m feeling good about the rest of the season. Remember when we were praying in early April for everyone to lose so we could make the 8th spot. ?
    Sunshine Tony ? I’ll take it !

  83. Two things:

    1) Since Kreider would be signing after the Trade Deadline, wouldn’t that mean we don’t lose a year of eligibility? Doesn’t it carry over to the next year?

    2) How many people wish the NHL would change the playoffs to match the NBA? The top 4 teams should be from the Atlantic since they have the best 4 records. Division winners should only be guaranteed a playoff spot, not necessarily home ice.

  84. Yev – thanks for the update. A Google search didn’t say anything about being back. That is great to hear. The things I keep hearing about him are great hockey sense, blazing speed, and good hands. When he was drafted, the comparison was that he was supposed to be a better version of Hagelin. Seeing how well he has turned out, I have high hopes for Fasth. It might take him a full season to get accustomed to NA, though. Hagelin’s playing for Michigan meant there was no adjustment needed. Fasth playing in Europe probably means that he will need a full year with the Whale.

  85. ANF, I’m joking. I appreciate people that are trying to be level headed about this point in the season. I will remember this team for how they do from mid-April on, not whether they held onto a rather meaningless regular title (or not) for 3 months.

  86. JimboWoodside on

    >>>Thank you Jimbo. I’m feeling good about the rest of the season. Remember when we were praying in early April for everyone to lose so we could make the 8th spot. ?

    Yes, I do, Tony – and yes, this season has been has been a wonderful departure from recent years!

    CTB – thank you! I want to stay! :-)

  87. I get it CT. Sometimes it is hard to remember that this team will only grow and get better. We are so used to looking at the quick fix and a limited window. This team will only get better over the next few years…

  88. Doodie Machetto on

    Jonny, If Kreider plays one game at the NHL level, his entry level contract will begin to run. Signing before or after the deadline makes no difference.

  89. @ Dan Shea:

    I tried some internet translation from the Hv71 website for the recent game where Jesper scored two goals. But, the translation leaves a bit to be desired! LOL! We need Carl or Hank to help us out:

    Ketchupeffekt in third Mattias Karlsson set off on a soloride, took the past stationary october-back down and sent in clearing up nättaket. 1, 2 and 2 to HV71, but Färjestad came back quickly and both receipted and taking the lead in 20 seconds. Hannes Hyvönen pressed in 2-2 and Kristofer Berglund shot in 3-2 from backplats. HV71 did not give up and made three objectives within the space of just over four minutes. Jesper Fasth receipted to 3-3 of clean like when clearing low free before October-objective.Babylon 9

  90. duckbill Plat-y-pus on

    You guys seem so convinced of a first round knockout…do you think the other teams are clamoring to play the Rangers in the first round? i think not.

  91. Doodie Machetto on

    If it’s a team in the 8 spot, I’m sure they will gladly play whoever they can.

    I’ll say this though, I bet all of those teams are hoping the Rangers keep the 1 spot over the Penguins.

  92. If Kreider is signed but he doesn’t play, just practice with the team would it still count against his entry level? If so then I say @wait@.

  93. Doodie Machetto on

    They wouldn’t call him up just to practice. They want him playing games. If not here, then in CT.

  94. Doodie Machetto on

    Must’ve been to someone who isn’t a bonehead. We all know better than to believe anything you say.

  95. Doodie, entry is 3 years right? If so *then* I say, what the hell sign him. In two years we’ll find out if he’s just another Jessiman.

  96. If they feel he can play, they won’t care about burning one year of his three year ELC. Not to mention, the rules may change next year anyway. I think he is going to sign because of the possibility of ELCs being more restrictive with next CBA

  97. Rangers West on

    Can we even sign Schultz this season? Isn’t he still property of the Ducks until the summer? As for Kreider, I would see him adding speed and a dab of offense to the fourth or third line…if he plays on the big club. Also, if Sather was willing to take on Nash’s contract i don’t think he’s too worried about having to re-sign Kreider a year earlier do to burning up his entry contract with a few regular season games and the playoffs, no?

  98. Broadway Blues on

    i hear tonight is a secret ticket contest:

    Rangers 3, Devils 2. GWG:Dubinsky Shots NYR 40 NJD 31

  99. Rangers West on

    Also, if Mcilrath is a second pairing defenseman who scares the shiz-nicks out of players with big hits and glove dropping and can play the PK and clear the crease…I’k okay with that. Additionally, I have a really good feeling about Fasth, Miller and Yogan. Fasth looks as if he should be a solid second or possibly first line player. Miller should be a good second line energy player and I think Yogan will be a good 3rd to 2nd line player scoring more (Doubtfully a lot) goals than anticipated. So if Kreider and Thomas are half as good as expected we should have some good players and/or some chips for a decent trade.

  100. Stanger Nation on

    how about a dab of offense to the 2nd line while he is at it. No wait, Dubi will take care of that – he is almost ready to break out of his 5 month long slump. If only the nub of the goalie’s stick didn’t get in the way the other night…

  101. Doodie Machetto on

    Banj, the risk isn’t that he’s a Jessiman, it’s that he is a good player. It brings him one year closer to a bigger contract.

  102. Czechthemout!!! on


    You hinted earlier about some info you had on Kreider. Will that be in your next post or not?

  103. OOPs, put this on yesterday’s post by mistake, sorry.
    Apologize if this has been mentioned previously but still trying to catch up from my 12 days out of the country.
    I?ve spent a good portion of the afternoon, beyond being bored out of my mind with my job, reading the HFBoard ?All Chris Kreider? blog ( that opened on 2/12/2012 and is still going strong after 800+ comments. Took a while to go through and wouldn?t normally talk about another blog (in this case apples to oranges ? THIS BLOG RULES) but there are quite a number of meaningful comments on the subjects addressed periodically on this blog while being able to keep a focus on Kreider that is only gaining momentum: 1)whether he should sign and be played this year (AHL and/ or NHL), 2) ELC trade-off, 3) overall expectations and comparisons, among others.

    I agree with Carp that he probably will be sign soon after his 2012 college season. My concern with the signing is NOT whether he plays this year for the parent team, but rather how the signing decision is being made. My issue is I would want Torts, if he gets handed this kid after he signed, to have bought into the possibility that he will play, even if he has not had a chance to acclimate to Tort?s system. If management signs him W/O the buy-in and expects him to play we may have a bigger issue on our hands than the players on the ice.

    I give quite a bit of credit to Tort?s leadership and decision making for the results on the ice this year. It?s hard to know what the upper management impact is but it certainly appears that Torts and his staff have had total control of player selection (e.g. ? Avery). I would hope he is not forced to accept something which challenges his authority and control of the product on the ice, leading to unnecessary distractions.

    All signs seem to lead to an early signing. IMHO ?ideally? Torts needs to accept that probability, access it as quickly as possible and be able to make a decision with or without upper management (Sather / Dolan) consent.

  104. And that bigger contract comes up when Hank, Callahan and Girardi are UFA’s 2014-15 and the next year Staal and @Dubinsky@.

  105. >>>I have a feeling some other team will be worrying aboot Dublowsky’s contract at that time…


    When he then turns into a 30 goal scorer. Lol!

  106. Girardi was pretty damn good last game. Hope everyone read how Prust and the rest of the boys feel about Rupp. Torts too. There’s a reason why he’s here.

  107. I think it’s been pretty much assumed that’s Rupp presence on the team has absolutely nothing to do with his offensive skill set

  108. Did it take you until the 70th-something game of the season to realize this Lloyd?

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