Rangers at Blues tonight


Pre-game notes from the NYR:

Thursday, Dec. 15, 8:00 p.m.
Scottrade Center – St. Louis, Missouri
Rangers: 17-7-4 (38 pts)
Blues: 17-9-3 (37 pts)
* All information through NHL games on Dec. 13

The Rangers will face-off against the St. Louis Blues at Scottrade Center (8:00 p.m.), to begin a three-game road trip. The Blueshirts currently rank second in the Atlantic Division standings, and fourth in the Eastern Conference, with a record of 17-7-4 (38 pts). The Rangers enter the contest having been defeated by the Dallas Stars, 1-0, on Tuesday at Madison Square Garden, to end their winning streak at two games. New York has recorded at least one point in 16 of their last 20 contests (14-4-2). The Blues enter the contest with a 17-9-3 (37 pts) record to rank sixth in the Western Conference, and have won their last three games. Following the contest, the Rangers will face-off against the Phoenix Coyotes on Saturday, Dec. 17, at Jobing.com Arena (8:00 p.m.), in their third consecutive game against a Western Conference opponent.

* TV: MSG Network

7:30 p.m. – Rangers Pre-Game Show with Bill Pidto and Ron Duguay
8:00 p.m. – Rangers at Blues
Broadcasters: Sam Rosen (Play-By-Play), Joe Micheletti (Analyst), John Giannone (In-Game Reporter)
* Radio: 1050 ESPN Radio and newyorkrangers.com
7:30 p.m. – Rangers Pre-Game Show
8:00 p.m. – Rangers at Blues
Broadcasters: Kenny Albert (Play-By-Play), Dave Maloney (Analyst)

* All-Time: 75-39-16-0 overall (45-12-6-0 at home; 30-27-10-0 on the road)
* 2011-12: Tonight is the first and only meeting this season between the Rangers and Blues.
* Last Season: New York was 1-1-0 overall, including a 1-0-0 mark on the road. Brandon Dubinsky led the Rangers in scoring with two points (two assists) in the season series, while Sean Avery and Derek Stepan tallied one goal each. Martin Biron started both games for the Blueshirts, posting a record of 1-1-0 with a 1.01 GAA and .957 Sv%.
* The Rangers have won their last two games in St. Louis, having out-scored the Blues, 4-2, over the span
* 11 of the last 12 meetings between the Rangers and Blues have been decided by two goals or less
* New York ranks sixth with a 9-4-2 (20 pts) record on the road; St. Louis ranks second with an 11-3-1 (23 pts) mark at home
* The Rangers have posted a 0-0-0 record vs. Central Division opponents; the Blues are 2-0-0 vs. the Atlantic Division
* Henrik Lundqvist has posted a 0-2-0 record with a 3.05 GAA in two career regular season games vs. St. Louis; Martin Biron is 1-7-0-2 with a 2.38 GAA in 11 career regular season games vs. the Blues
* Marian Gaborik leads the Rangers with 13 goals, 21 assists and 34 points in 31 career regular season games vs. St. Louis; Brad Richards has registered 18 assists and 20 points in 17 career regular season contests vs. the Blues
* New York lists one former Blue on their roster: Jeff Woywitka (2005-06 – 2008-09)
* St. Louis lists no former Ranger on their roster

The Rangers are 10-41 (24.4%) with the man advantage in the last 10 games. The Blueshirts’ penalty kill has also held their opponent scoreless in four straight games entering tonight’s contest (16-16, 100.0% over the span), while tallying three shorthanded goals during the stretch. The Rangers’ penalty kill is 26-28 (92.9%) in the last nine games. The Blueshirts have posted a record of 12-1-2 in games when tallying a power play goal, and are 12-2-2 when holding their opponent scoreless on the power play.
* Power Play: The Rangers did not tally a goal in four power play opportunities (7:59) on \Tuesday vs. Dallas. New York is tied for 19th overall (19-115, 16.5%) and ranks 28th on the road (6-55, 10.9%). The Rangers are 2-10 (7:37) in five-on-three situations (last – 12/05 vs. TOR), and 0-4 (3:46) when four-on-three (last – 11/3 vs. ANA). Shorthanded goals allowed (2): 12/5 vs. TOR (Steckel); 12/8 vs. TBL (Moore).
* Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts held the Stars scoreless in two shorthanded situations (4:00) on Tuesday at MSG. New York ranks fifth overall (93-107, 86.9%) and 14th on the road (53-63, 84.1%). The Rangers are 4-5 (2:35) in three-on-five situations (last – 12/8 vs. TBL), and 0-1 (1:17) when three-on-four (last – 10/7 at LAK). Shorthanded goals for (4): 10/20 at CGY (Prust); 12/8 vs. TBL (Anisimov); 12/10 at BUF (Hagelin); 12/10 at BUF (Callahan).
* Four-on-Four: New York did not tally/yield a goal in one four-on-four situation (2:00) on Tuesday vs. Dallas. The Rangers are plus-three in 33 four-on-four situations (60:21), and even in one three-on-three situation (0:01). Four-on-four goals for (3): 10/18 at VAN (Gaborik); 10/20 at CGY (McDonagh); 10/27 vs. TOR (Girardi). Four-on-four goals allowed (0).

The Blueshirts swept their weekend back-to-back set against Buffalo and Florida, out-scoring their opponents, 10-2, in the two games.  The Rangers are scheduled to play 14 back-to-back sets this season. New York has posted a record of 3-0-1 (1-0-0 at home, 2-0-1 on the road) in the first game of the set, and are 3-0-1 (3-0-0 at home, 0-0-1 on the road) in the second game. Since 2009-10, New York is 24-8-3 in the second game of back-to-back sets, with a 12-3-1 mark at MSG and 12-5-2 on the road over the span. Henrik Lundqvist has started on consecutive days 56 times in his career, posting a record of 35-14-7 with a 1.82 GAA, .935 Sv% and six shutouts in the second game. The Rangers’ next back-to-back set, their fifth of the season, is Dec. 22-23 against the NY Islanders and Philadelphia, with both games at MSG.

The Blueshirts’ 38 points through 28 games (17-7-4) is their best start to the season since the team posted an 18-8-2 (38 pts) mark through 28 contests in 2008-09, and is only four points shy of the 1993-94 Stanley Cup Championship team’s 42 points in 28 games (20-6-2). New York currently ranks third in the league overall with a .679 winning percentage.

The Blueshirts are tied for the league lead in fewest goals against, allowing 58 goals through 28 games, and rank third with a 2.07 GAA. The Rangers have held their opponents to two or fewer goals in 18 of their 28 games this season. Henrik Lundqvist is 12-6-4 with a 2.03 GAA, .933 Sv% and two shutouts, while Martin Biron is 5-1-0 with a 1.79 GAA, .937 Sv% and one shutout. Lundqvist is tied for 10th in the NHL in wins, fifth in Sv%, sixth in shutouts and ranks eighth in GAA.

The Rangers rank third in the league with 752 hits, including 395 hits on the road to rank third in the NHL. Ryan Callahan ranks fourth in the NHL with 98 hits, while Dan Girardi ranks seventh among league defensemen with 76 hits.

* The Rangers’ seven regulation losses are tied for the fewest in the NHL
* New York has registered a point in 16 of their last 20 games (14-4-2), and has out-scored their opponent, 67-43, during the stretch
* New York is 5-1-1 when leading after the first period and 11-0-2 when leading after the second
* The Blueshirts lead the league with a .81 win% when out-shooting their opponent (9-2-0)
* The Rangers are 7-0-0 all-time in games when Brandon Prust is assessed a fighting major in the opening two minutes
* The Blueshirts rank second in the NHL when scoring first, posting a 13-1-1 mark (.867 win%) in those contests, and their 13 wins are tied for third in the league
* New York notched two shorthanded goals in the second period on Dec. 10 at Buffalo, marking the first time the team tallied two shorthanded goals in the same period since Mar. 6, 1997 at Los Angeles (2nd Period, B. Berg at 6:09 and N. Sundstrom at 15:11). *courtesy of the Elias Sports Bureau
* Henrik Lundqvist has held opponents to two or fewer goals in 14 games this season, and is 10-3-1 with a 1.84 GAA, .936 Sv% and one shutout in his last 14 games
* Michael Del Zotto has tallied eight assists in the last nine games
* Brad Richards has tallied 20 points (10 goals, 10 assists) in the last 20 games, with 12 points (five goals, seven assists) in the last 10
* Derek Stepan has tallied 19 points (seven goals, 12 assists) in the last 20 contests, with eight points (three goals, five assists) in the last seven
* Artem Anisimov has tallied 15 points (five goals, 10 assists) in the last 17 games, with seven points (four goals, three assists) in the last seven
* Marian Gaborik has tallied 21 points (11 goals, 10 assists) in the last 21 games, with eight points (five goals, three assists) in the last eight
* Ryan Callahan has tallied 10 points (four goals, six assists) in the last 10 games
* Rangers’ prospects Christian Thomas (Canada), J.T. Miller (USA) and Peter Ceresnak (Slovakia) have been invited to participate in their respective National Junior Team’s selection camp for the 2012 IIHF World Junior Championship

* Marian Gaborik: 2 assists from 300th NHL career; 2 goals from 300th NHL career; 4 points from 600th NHL career
* Dan Girardi: 4 assists from 100th NHL career

* Brad Richards: 800th career NHL game (12/13 vs. DAL)

* Marc Staal (concussion, IR on 10/5) – 28
* Mike Rupp (knee, 10/24) – 21
* Wojtek Wolski (groin, 11/3) – 17
* Michael Sauer (concussion, 12/5) – 4
Total Man-Games Lost: 79

* Dec. 14 – Recalled defensman Tim Erixon from Connecticut (AHL)

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  1. OK. Seen some clips on the Puck Daddy blog, and now i’m hooked. Anyone got a weblink i can use?

  2. I added HBO last night thinking I could watch it on demand but it wasn’t on there! So I would assume it isn’t on HBO-GO yet

  3. Stranger Nation on

    Blues playing well, tougher game than one may think.

    Prust was star of HBO show, guy is hilarious and they showed the awesome Simmons fight with the body blow followed by right to the head.

    Torts really has no clue on Offense yet Gabby seems to be his whipping boy, hmmm.

    Dubi looks like he is 12 years old.

  4. I only found a part one, but it seems to be that they will have some more parts in the next couple hours….This part is only 14 minutes long, how long is the whole episode ?
    one hour ????

    Lets wait and see….

  5. Stranger Nation on

    One hour Buff. Though they were trying to make us look like a struggling team by showing loafs and bolts games (AA gun salute).

    This series can really put some emphasis on the concussions with starters out from both teams.

    Flyers goalie talks with heavy accent like Ackroyd from old SNL skit with Steve Martin and says some funny things.

    Oh and Pronger showed how those lessons from Charm School were paying dividends….not.

  6. Stranger Nation on

    How bout that limo they were using for the Garden of Dreams event – hope they gave the interior a good scrubbing before letting those kids in it. Boyle and Prusty were laughing about it prior to getting in.

  7. wow..it is just great, you feel so into it with that Hbo 24/7 stuff….I have seen now only half of the episode the beginning and the end but Stepan grandma is absolutely amazing :)

  8. Great Reporting BANJ!

    Haven’t seen the episode yet. Did they play “Name That Squirt” throughout?

  9. refresh..refresh…until I find parts two and three….

    The Rangers have a very small plane and now I understand there is no seat for Carp to accompany them :)

  10. i am watching part three now..If its all together the whole episode, I will post all four links…
    for your courtesy :)

  11. Wonder how long that will last……..I want this stupid thing to be on HBO On Demand so I can watch it before the Blues game.

  12. Wicky©"suspend the hittee..LW compliant version" on

    Morning ILB and all!!

    So last year’s show was always in like four parts per episode on youtube…..not sure if it is like that or not this year, but seems like it.

    Anyone know if last year’s episode is available on DVD?

    before I forget, have a great time at scott trade (or whatever they call it keil….checker dome…) tonight!! Got to black thorn afterwards and throw back a molson or lone star for me!!!

    LGR and LGD and LGM (Let’s Go Mickey)!!!

  13. NYR_FAN "Step-on the GAS!" on

    HBO really did a great job…can’t wait for next week’s!

    Torts is amazing. Avery is a weird cat. I love this team even more after watching them last night…

  14. Wick – last year is available on DVD. I am currently borrowing it from a friend of mine who is a Caps fan. If he doesn’t want it back I will tell you and mail it to you.

  15. Well guys In summer I had the opportunity to stay a full week in the same hotel of a world famous sportsteam in Europe, and its definitely a kind of weird atmosphere goin´on all the time…

    They live a different live, you need to be very much even keel to survive it if you want to express it like that…

  16. That Patrick Kane “goal” is pretty flippin’ inventive. I watched that game but, by rule, if the Rangers aren’t in it I refuse to watch a ShootOut where they raffle off a point thus making guys like Christensen relevant. Kane is even good during regular games.

  17. Manny
    if it wasn’t reported before i believe HBO On Demand
    goes up on dec 19

    in a previous post
    Carp lists all the rebroadcast dates for the first episode.
    it’s HBO
    which means it’ll be rebroadcast again and again and again and…

  18. 24/7 was every bit as entertaining as I hoped it’d be. It’s great to see such detailed behind the scenes stuff with our team as well as the in-game footage that’s better than we get to see on MSG.

    I anticipate the Flyers will be treated better than the Rangers because a) They’re the home team and b) Comcast rules the NHL.

    But last night had tons of great moments. The best being the smile Avery gave Artie when he came into the dressing room after the period. Artie doing his best, in his broken English, to not only apologize to the team but talk to the refs about the call. Dubi unleashing the F-bombs in regards to the call. Torts getting a bullshit explanation from the ref.

    This reminded me of those old MSG-produced year-in-review tapes that the Rangers used to put out. I believe I have those from ’89-’91. The film used for in-game footage, the behind the scenes stuff, all top quality. (Anybody remember those?)

    All in all, I think even if you’re a non-hockey fan you gotta enjoy this show.

    I did like how Torts came across. Just as we pictured. Although it was funny how he called out Boyle for wearing a mic and forgetting how to play…also saying he thinks players sometimes whine a little when it comes to injuries.

    I love it. Just hope we can win the big game.

    BTW, how friggin’ sweet is our new locker room? Jeez…talk about comforts

  19. Honestly, my favorite part of 24/7 is the on-ice microphones. I really wish we could just watch hockey with that all the time. It’s so interesting.

  20. Good morning, Sally!

    Yes, the entire airing schedule was on the thread last night.

    That lockerroom is nice, but it sure isn’t very big. Not like the palaces in which the Yankees and Mets dress.

    And, yes, Avery’s grin at Anisimov was priceless.

  21. Good late morning all! Some other thoughts on the show:

    Listening to Laviolette is almost better than any sleeping pill.
    They may have shown the Flyers winning more games than us, but nothing beat the camaraderie of our boys. Those were really my favorite parts (aside from the shirts off scenes).
    Say what you will, but I loved Torts. You can’t deny the guy has top tier passion for his team. Plus, I think he’s getting better looking with age :)
    And if you think I watched the last part where they showed the players’ faces close-up in black and white, well, all I have to say is…..of course I did :)

  22. Buff – I was thinking about Concussions a lot this morning and was looking forward to talking about them today. I think that the NHL has no choice but to bring back interference. Not holding and hooking but just allowing people to get in each other’s way in an effort to slow the game down. Maybe even bring back the two-line pass and please, please, please allow no touch icing.

    To make that point clearer, many of these players are being concussed in collisions with their own teammates (Crosby, Giroux, Michalek). The only way to stop players from slamming into each other at top speed is to slow the game down to what it was pre-lockout. Guys skating at 35 MPH on this size rink, with 4 Zebra’s out there, is a recipe for daily Concussion reports with the medical diagnosis, testing and precautions that have now prevailed.

  23. Manny good point !

    But what do you want ? A more entertaining game a quicker game or more safe game a slower one, which wont have too much collisions ?????

    I think the NHL needs to find the right way in the middle, which is not easy by any means….

  24. Right. The Middle would be the best solution. Pre-Lockout the game was “too slow” for the mass public. Recently the game has been too fast and, well, brain damaging.

    Middle ground!

    Allow minor interference BELOW the blue dots in your defensive zone. No touch icing should be a gimmie. It effects nothing.

    Teams are all going to start playing a 1-3-1 to protect their players. You have to slow the team down. Look at how the Bruins handled the Sedin Sisters (as they were recently called), put bodies in front of them. Not exactly interference, but close.

  25. Ah Erik Christensen back in to provide some more dynamic offense until the equally dynamic Mike Rupp steps in

  26. Yeah but what is always dangerous that the NHL wants to get more attention with a quicker and more entertaining game for the non NHL but sportsfan to attract more audience. So you make the game more quicker but more dangerous to the players.

    I know its not necessary in Canada but for the normal fan in USA who is more interested in Baseball, Basketball or Football its difficult for the NHL to find its niche in this sportsworld….

  27. Can’t the NHL just realize what is best for them? Move these small market teams to Canada. They will have huge followings. Canadian dollars are worth just as much as American Dollars now. No need to force feed Arizona and Kansas City with Hockey.

  28. I was once in Phoenix to see the Coyotes (2000!)in the old arena, almost empty if it wouldn´t be the Flyers, there is no reason at all to have a cold hockey team there with outside temperatures of a desert…..

    That´s just stupidity on the part of the NHL !!!!

  29. Manny:

    You’re right on the money. Hockey is such a marginal entity in the U.S. and it’s obvious it will never be given a fair shake by most of the sporting media. Just take those jerkwater market teams to Canada.

  30. “jerkwater market teams”…nice very nice, I can always learn something new from you guys every day ;)

  31. czechthemout!!!! on

    EC still in the lineup. This despite a terrible two games. A guy who provides no energy. No scoring. No faceoff winning ability. No physical play. And the only thing he is able to do is block shots in the offensive zone.

    I find it disturbing that Torts refuse to accept the fact that EC is a terrible player. Why can’t a kid like Bourque get a shot over this clown?

  32. Because Bourque is having a unfortunate season in CT. He is a minus 4 with only 5 pts in 20 games. I agree EC is a joke and while I am not the biggest Avery fan it seems pretty obvious that he needs to be in the lineup.

  33. stranger nation on

    New math formula: EC = 0

    Part of the challenge may be not wanting to put Dubi at center.

    torts playing for the tie doesn’t make sense.

  34. I love when we find common ground Lloyd. It’s special.

    Jerkwater is brilliant. I could use it in so many ways. It’s like “Jerkstore” but more useful.

    Bjork has been tough. If the ^hobbit wizard^ wasn’t injured for the third time in the AHL (remember ZERO injuries at the NHL level) he probably would have been called up but with his injury they brought up Erixon who takes up a bit of cap space.

  35. Eh, language is language. Sports demands a high energy and high intensity form of language. It’s specifically the type of situation that swear-words were invented for.

  36. Maybe its because I see and hear so much of him but I thought Torts was a pretty level headed (hockey coach) for most of the show.

  37. This is like the lesser of evils debate , and there’s not much in the way of callups with Zuc hurt; but I didn’t think Deveaux was terrible at all.

    That one elbow (as he said, “he elbowed himself out of the league”) seems an incredibly harsh punishment for a big guy who banged bodies and stood up for his teammates pretty well.

  38. Good question tiki!
    C3, only 12??? I thought he let loose at least 40 in the first 3 minutes :)

  39. I am excited to get Rupperstilskin back. Almost as excited I was to begin the season with him. Let’s hope he doesn’t let me down this time.

  40. those 10 points and soft physical play he’ll rack up over the next 50 games will be truly breathtaking

  41. Please (when’s the last time Avery threw a truly punishing hit?), please (when’s the last time he dropped the gloves with someone bigger than him & won?),
    and please (6 goals in 2 years?).

    The only people he even agitates anymore are actresses and models.
    He should be out of the league. And next year he will be.

    And I don’t dislike the guy.

  42. Hagelin and Mitchell looked pretty slow in the last game. Maybe they can wake up tonight? Could you imagine being brought up to the NHL in the midst of 24/7?

  43. Hey Rod, nice Tortorella-company line post there. How many goals and punishing hits does Brandon Dubinsky have this year? I’ll give you a clue, it’s less Avery’s total.

  44. I do dislike the guy, he is a clown but I truly believe he helps the team more then EC ever has/will. Neither guy makes much of a difference on the score sheet but at least Avery brings some jam to the line-up.

  45. Yeah, Torts called and told me to post that.

    They’re not facts.

    Never said Dubinsky wasn’t almost entirely lost. Who could argue with that?

  46. Am I the only one that gets upset when I see Fedotenko being swapped with Dubisnky on that second line. Fed’s deserves better. Rosy Cheeks is a solid, solid player.

  47. *Rod* December 15th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
    Yeah, Torts called and told me to post that.



  48. No Manny, I got pissed too, when I saw Dubi swapped for Feds. Dubi is a shell of a player, but he is our shell.

  49. @KevinWeekes@ Mr Taxi Driver,when your face is more sour than a carton of 2 Week spoiled milk you get no TIP, @#DoYourJobWithPride@


    Kevin Weekes is officially a scumbag. Do you job with pride? This from the guy that tweets about his breakfasts? Come on!

  50. the jokes about Weekes not tipping sort of write themselves so I’ll just leave that one alone

  51. Amen, Matty. He’s *our* shell.

    Matty and Manny look similar. Sometimes I think your posts are mine.

  52. Totally agree about Feds, Manny. Unfortunately, him being such a solid player and a solid pro hurts him, I think. He is the one guy Torts can put just about anywhere and he instantly knows his role and whatever that role is he does it well. All without any moaning and groaning and just solid hard nose play. Its a curse.

  53. Haha Rod.

    I can only imagine that conversation.

    Torts: This blog has better posts than posts about Sean Avery.

    Rod: I’ll make sure the readers know that.

  54. Brandon Prust isn’t supposed to score, though. He’s part of the 60% of the team, whose only expectation, according to this forum, is to fill a uniform.

  55. Weekes is a d-nuzzle. Taxi cab driver with sour face? gee, i wonder why? Not everyone has a few mill in the bank account and have a job they can truly say they love….esp. if you are a cab driver. Weekes just fell pretty low on my list.

  56. Yup. Prusty loves to light up his old team. Flames. Prusty on Fire. Ya know, because he was a flame.

    You’re right 1940. Feds is too good at too many things so he ends up becoming a utility guy. He seems happy about it. He does have two mentions on Lord Stanley’s Cup. Probably pretty content by now.

  57. Amen, @CCCP@ I am going to open a Twitter account and learn what the EFF a hashtag is so I can reprimand him.

  58. Manny,

    Kinda begs the question, why are you reading Kevin Weeks tweets?

    And when’s the last time you took a NYC cab ride?

    Unless they pour a drink on my head I’m a 20% tipper, but I can’t say Weeks is all wrong.

    Some of those people are horrible.

  59. Kevin Weekes’ twitter is linked on this site. Guess you were too busy riding Tortorella’s coattails to notice.

  60. He was a Yote too, so he better score when we verse them!

    I’ve mentioned it weeks ago, Proost has been passing more than shooting, and most of those passes are dumb. The one to McDonut in the last game was one of the only good passes he has made. He needs to shoot more.

    Not expecting him to score a ton of goals, but he needs to start shooting when he has the chance.

  61. Yeah, Prust really is an abysmal passer – glad I’m not the only who’s noticed this. Guy is a pretty inept offensive player.

  62. Rod – I have no choice. Weekes is in Waseka up there.

    I always tip at least 20%. Unless the guy gives me attitude about having to go all the way to Brooklyn. These guys don’t understand the point of a meter, eh?

    Also, A lot of cab drivers are from West Africa and therefore there is a high likelihood that they were Child Soldiers (since many of the child soldiers moved on to careers in transportation throughout the Congo and elsewhere EAST of Sierra Leone, etc). I don’t ever top less than 30% then and I usually remember to be extra nice because they probably have killed people with rusty implements and therefore I am horrified.

    *(I am not saying this to be racist so don’t get all over me. I actually STUDY African History and care very much about it. I am saying this as a statement of fact and nothing more. I could not feel worse for any people on the planet than I feel for the inhabitants of Africa and what they have been forced to undergo at the hands of the Europeans for the last 6 centuries)

  63. Lloyd – we have been over this before. Prust is not here to score goals. That is why all his goals last year came with a bit of a tongue-in-cheek giggle. They were almost accidents. I think Prust himself has noticed that he is a bit inept on the offensive side of the puck. But gosh does he play hard and take up valuable PK minutes.

  64. Orr, he’s actually not that far off from last year’s pace in terms of SOG. Just last year he was almost a 15% shooter, this year he’s an 8% shooter.

  65. Manny:

    I’m going to be very controversial here, or not:

    You could find dozens of guys in the AHL with no offensive skills who can play hard and take up valuable PK minutes .

  66. Lloyd – maybe that is true. But my concern there would be guys that let bad stuff happen. PK is an art and it’s not just some simple thing to do. You can’t turn the puck over and allow breakaways. There is a reason guys don’t come up from the AHL and immediately join our PK. Prust doesn’t do stupid stuff on the ice and cost us goals. He’s solid. Not as all around gifted as a solid guy like Fed-oh-tank-oh but Prust is better than most AHL’ers because he has nothing to prove and will not make stupid plays based on his need to impress. (Controversy?)

  67. Sorry Lloyd. I’ll try harder to keep up with them. Ok?

    That’s funny Manny. I try hard not to cab it, but gotta call it what it is;
    these people look nasty, sound nasty, they can’t frickin’ drive and they’re ripping you off!

    So I can’t fault Weeks for getting annoyed (though does everything everyone does have to be a tweet?).

    He always seemed like a pretty good guy.

  68. That’s probably true too Orr. That combo of him not taking the shot as often and his regressed shooting % explains the drop in offense. Despite that he’s still got 1 less goal than Sean Almighty.

  69. Rod:

    In all seriousness, his dumb tweets usually show up near the top of the right side of the homepage here. I have no interest in anything Kevin Weekes has to say but unless you block scripts, it’s pretty hard to avoid.

  70. Prust has 11:22 ATOI, 1:29 of that is on the PK (where we can agree that offense is not expected). Then there’s the 8 seconds of PP time he receives on average, which is usually the last scraps of a PP when that idiot Torts is concerned with playing defensively as the other team goes back to full strength. So the bulk of his ice time, as with just about any secondary player at even strength is 9:45. And he also starts something like 60% of his ES shifts in the defensive zone.

    Avery has 7:00 ATOI, all at ES.

    So on average 2:45 of extra ES time.

    What exactly would you expect Avery to do with that extra time?

  71. Ohh geez. Lloyd went there. Now we are taking shots at Brandon Prust. A guy all 30 GMs would take. So basically you have no concept of how a hockey roster is built. Not all 18 skaters are going to be 30 goal scorers. In fact, if u did that youd have the worst defensive team in the League. He’s a better than average 4th liner in that he can fight kill penalties and play a decent 5 on 5. For a guy who makes fun of EC you have a thing for goal scorers

  72. Hagelin is my favorite Ranger. He’s also….as I say from time to time…this year’s PRUST with energy and excitement and exceeding expectations. And he looks like Duane Allman.

  73. Hwirth:

    Already addressed all that about Prust, and I wasn’t the one who started taking shots at him either.

  74. That’s great CT. A quick google reveals that he looks more like the terrorists from Die Hard than Duane Allman

  75. Good afternoon, ‘heads!

    Haven’t been around much. Got very busy at work, yesterday celebrated mrs. ilb’s 26th. Today is our departmental party, so I’ll have to DVR the game. And I haven’t watched HBO yet. I have a lot of catch up to do. Briefly, did I miss much on the blog?

  76. It would be great if Hagelin scored and did an AA-47 type celebration. Then told the opposing goalie, “Now I have a machine gun, ho ho ho”.

  77. Manny, haha, I throw out scumbag with reckless abandon as well!

    I dont remember if I posted this or not, AA’s celebration was an honor to his deceased friend’s memory, one of the Lokomotiv plane crash victims.

  78. Bryzgalov was funny… i love the part when he’s explaining about the bottle with some booze and points at the picture of a tiger and says with a serious face “This is tiger” LMFAO! No cooke, professor!

  79. List of Ranger forwards with lower productivity than Brandon Prust:

    Ok, I’ll leave him alone.

    List of Ranger players with lower productivity than Brian Boyle:

    Michael Sauer
    Steve Eminger
    Anton Stralman
    Dan Girardi
    Ryan McDonagh
    Brandon Prust


  80. the productivity stat, which can be easily found on espn.com, is the number of minutes of ice time a player logs in between registering a point. so, the lower the number, the more often he’s involved in scoring.

  81. for instance, Brian Boyle has to be on the ice for roughly 48:44 before registering a point. to put this into perspective, Michael Del Zotto, logs a point every 45:04.

  82. no, because players can still log points on the PK. but, if you subtract out time for PK, Boyle would still only rank ahead of Prust among Ranger forwards.

  83. Of course players can still log points on the PK, but does anyone realisitically expect players to put up points on the PK? Even your league leaders in that category get only 7, 8, 9 points a year shorthanded. So basically you’re saying that Boyle and Prust don’t score much and don’t score with great frequency. Which is what *virtually everyone* here has agreed with, but at the same time recognized their value is more derived from goal prevention.

  84. Hey, her entrance into the world coincides with the Rangers turning into one of the best teams in the conference. She may be just the good luck that the Rangers have needed all these years. :)

  85. Brian Boyle centers an offensive line and plays the power play. He scored 20 goals last year. The coaching staff clearly doesn’t play him as if his value is primarily goal prevention.

  86. The best thing – well maybe not the best but a great thing – is that very clearly the stars of the show are the guys whom the most stuff happens with and to. I doubt they started the show thinking DelZotto and Anisimov would be the story, but that’s who the major events last week centered around and so there they are. Callahan was a story not just because he is a captain but because of the Buffalo game. This week, I would expect a good story about the Panthers game, a fairly brief interlude about the boring Stars game and frankly, unless something interesting happens on this trip (like they fail to win and so will have lost 5 of 7) it could be a pretty bland episode especially compared to the following week when they play New Jersey, Isles and Philly. But who knows? Clearly the story writes itself, so maybe there will be some great stuff.

  87. i love the late start. Kids will be asleep and i can crack open one of those 32 ounce coronas i have in the fridge. Maybe one for every goal avery gets!!

  88. Back in about 1 mill, BC when the pucks were made of stone, and there was a rule called “charging” which meant no more than 3 strides toward an opponent on a body check, ( ask that caveman who comes on the commercials), and that would eliminate the practices of developing a full head of speed from end to end and slamming a guy into the boards, it might well eliminate a lot of these concussion problems. Now agreed it would make the game a bit slower and the checking more responsible, but there’s an upside and a downside to everything. I swear that some of these hits from a high speed trajectory and whammo into an unsuspecting opponent is gonna bring about a very serious ( DARE I SAY FATAL) consequence…and that will be the BIG STORY and a massive overhaul is going to ensue…that you may not like at all.

    You can do all the hitting you desire under those circumstances, but this keeps up and you’ll have more guys in recuperation than you carry on the rosters.

    And if anyone thinks that this is gonna look like Europansy or whatever the term is, think again about one thing. It is coming. And there will have to be some type of trade off. Beware.

  89. Let me guess, the productivity stat finds favour with certain posters because a certain player probably ranks quite high in them right now? Ridiculously small sample size and lack of context, be damned…

  90. I don’t it even matters who ranks high, LW… As long as someone ranks low, he’ll be the flavo(u)r of the day. Or post. Team loyalty is overrated as long as we have someone to ‘”discuss”

  91. I haven’t posted for a day and totally lost my typing skills….Let me try it again. Oh, never mind.

  92. Borsalino!

    So I gather you liked 24/7, eh? Will probably watch tomorrow. From your comments I gather Bryzgalov’s IQ is just a point above his SV%…

  93. you’re right, Brian Boyle is a great player. he should be logging Del Zotto minutes on the PP.

  94. happy 26th mrs. ilb!

    Carp, “what the bryzgalov are we going to talk about when Almighty is whaled?”

    The Almighty, of course…..duh.

  95. ilb, ha! you fall right back in the g(j)ibberish mode….bravo! Perhaps you or C3 can translate AA’s comments when he speaks in Russian??

  96. I won’t get to it till tomorrow, mama…But something tells me if I translate what AA said, Carp will ban me within 5 min, lol….

  97. Oh. I thought you were teasing me. Sorry. I guess I teased myself.

    Paige Richards is Brad Richards very attractive and eligible (for ORR’s wife) Sister.

  98. nah I don’t knock typos or whatever on here, especially when the forum doesn’t allow edits.

    I’ve never seen Richards’ sister. hopefully she’s a bit better looking than he is.

  99. Ok, Rangers that most women (including my wife) are partial to:

    Henrik Lundqvist
    Brandon Dubinsky

    that’s about it, right?

  100. My wife saw Henrik Lundqvist on the LIRR platform. She remembers the experience “fondly” to put it mildly.

  101. Lloyd

    Lundqvist is not in the same category as any other. There’s no comparison to him.

    In the second tier of hotties, you have Boyle (even though he’s a red sox fan), Avery, Richards, Girardi, Del Zotto.

    Dubinsky, Callahan, Sauer, Gabby are all on the 3rd tier, cute.

    Anisimov is sexy in a suave way, while Prust is sexy in a rugged way.

  102. first, belated happy 26th Mrs. ilb!

    second, the s-b word, like the d-b word, is not allowed here. especially disappointing use by one who has been warned about it repeatedly.

    third, take those productivity stats and throw them right in the trash along with +/- and all the other new-age stats. they’re useless.

  103. eddie eddie eddie on

    the rangers are going to make st louis feel extra blue after tonight…

    Rangers 4
    StL 1

    GWG: rolled doobie (would be avery but, he aint be playin)

    sog rangers 33
    stl 28

  104. Carp,

    If you’ve got any stats that show Brian Boyle to be anything other than a 4th line center, I’d love to see them.

  105. ORR – all tennis players have Amazingly hot girlfriends. Especially Djokovic and Marat Safin. Unreal.

    That is, except for Marty Fish. He married that trashy looking girl.

    This conversation is getting awkward in such an awesome way.

    I wonder what Rafa’s relationship with his sister is like. He’s a weird guy who always hides out with only his family. Also, his sister is WAY prettier than his GF.

  106. well, the stat that says he’s a third-line center is a stat that says he is more than a fourth-line center.

    you can find that at watchthegamesthelasttwoseasons.com.

  107. Carp, i dont know if its allowed to link what Andrew Gross had to say from the Rangers morning skate at Scottrade Center….

    If its not allowed or if Andrew Gross wont allow it, you can probably delete it….


    Do you guys have a link for me to listen to Cisco NHLlive because a big hole to fill until the Game in St. Louis starts ????? I am always around nhlwebsite but I am doing very bad to find the voice of lovely Deb :)

  108. YES! Great point, ORR. Federer was an EPIC fail. She’s older than him by like 7 years too. Looking at Nadal’s sister is just not healthy. She might be my Medusa.

    Great site, Carp. Thanks for linking me. I might actually start _watching_ the games now!

  109. Manny, i dont understand the stuff you write about Federer and Nadal despite beeing a huge tennis fan as well ! Can you elaborate on that please ??????

  110. anybody in the line up instead of Sean Almighty, is not as good as Almighty. after all, he is a great teammate, great passer, the best pest in the game, and an all around good guy. I think if the Rangers had offered Avery, for Bobby Ryan straight up, Ryan would be a Ranger now.

  111. Purely in terms of skills (i.e. skating ability, shooting, stickhandling), Sean Avery is better than Brian Boyle.

  112. No, Carp, that wasnt a point. The point is merely that Boyle happens to be the flavor of the day…Team loyalty? Out the window!

  113. here’s another way to judge:

    put both of them on waivers tomorrow and see which one gets picked by any of the other 29 coaches.

  114. Yeah, I haven’t been saying Boyle’s having a terrible season for the last 8 weeks or anything. you’re right.

  115. in order to participate eddie, I have to mention Avery. it seems that you and a few others care about nothing else.

  116. I just went on MiserableTrollBastardAveryLoverWhoHatesEveryOtherRangerEspeciallyTorts.org but it says I need a password. Anyone happen to be a member??

  117. Avery is a much better stickhandler and shooter than Lundqvist and the latter’s productivity stat is abysmal.

    Check applesandoranges.com for the proof.

  118. Lloyd, you’ve been saying most of our players, one by one, post after post, have been having a terrible season. If you were close to 5% right, we would’ve already bagged 1st overall, hands down.

  119. Le freak c’est chic….

    Shout out to CCCP for keeping track of the F-bombs for us!

    D-b/S-b needs it’s own phrase…How’s downie-bag” suit everyone?

  120. ilb:

    I’ve mentioned three: Brandon Prust, Brian Boyle and Brandon Dubinsky

    Feel free to dispute any of the three.

  121. Manny, I once had the opportunity to meet Federer personally in a hotel in Bangkok/Thailand (Oriental!!!) and his wife was so unpolite trying to disturb our conversations because she said he is busy to go on…

    So she is not even hot she is unnecessary :)

    But I dont know about Nadals sister but I find his girl friend very hot :)

  122. personally, I would much rather post with ilb about Anisimov, or CT about STATS, or Doodie about hockey history or Hwith about anything hockey related, or Manny about anything hockey related. but since Avery’s TOI dominates the talk, I chime in.

  123. That’s amazing Buff. Federer is basically a personal hero of mine. The guy is amazing and his arrogance is so endearing somehow.

  124. Lloyd,
    I will dispute only one, Boyle. I know he has not scored, but he has consistently played his game. I posted early in the season that Prust was not playing well, he is playing better now, and as a Dubi fan it hurts to say, but Dubi has been brutal.

  125. DISPUTE? With you? That is exactly what you want, Lloyd….I doubt you’re here because you are loyal to this team. So, no, I won’t do the honors….

  126. BlogMama, on your inquiry:
    Liking art and science of languages let me try to give kind of legal Anisimov’s translation from Russian in well-known episode. His first sentence was pretty incomprehensible, because there was not one meaningful word, except recitation in random order: guy, who comes systematically to sleep with his mother, but not his father, some unknown and unwashed street girl who does certain things for little money and just for fun of it sometimes, than mentioned some abstract, genderless gay character, borderline pedophile and, finally, by unknown reason, (probably still in shock) looking at zebra like ref, mentioned random female dog, right after very rude mating with much bigger kind of species. Of course in Russian it was just 2 short enough sentences, but without any repetition. Nobel or Pulitzer speech it was not, but for who heard it, was more or less clear, that he was a little bit upset and confused.


    And no i’m not one of those people who chants that after a goal. I’m saying this prior to the game.

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