No update on Staal; Torts on Avery; notes from last night


First, I’ve been told there may not be any update on Marc Staal’s condition coming today, as we anticipated.

Second, several sites have reported Sean Avery’s conversation with ESPNNY, saying he doubts he will be recalled, that it’s kind of like hoping to win the lottery.

The New York Daily News blog had this quote from John Tortorella in reaction to that:

“No, I’m so busy worrying about this team. This is the first time I’ve heard about it,” Tortorella said. “We go about our business here, and I know that’s a story I’m sure that’s going to be talked about a lot, because Sean was here and very well-liked, but again I’m coaching this hockey club here. Talk to Kenny (Whale coach Ken Gernander). I don’t know what’s going on down there. So I can’t comment on it.”


We never did give you the post-game notes from last night’s game, which spilled into this morning. So here they are, courtesy of the NYR:

New York Rangers 4, Vancouver Canucks 0
October 18, 2011 (Game 4, Away Game 4)
Rogers Arena – Vancouver, British Columbia

Team Notes:
-The Rangers defeated the Vancouver Canucks, 4-0, tonight at Rogers Arena for their first win of the 2011-12 regular season.
-After two scoreless periods, the Rangers tallied four goals in the third period to record the victory.
-The win was New York’s first in Vancouver since Oct. 11, 1997 (6-3).
-The Blueshirts held Vancouver scoreless in eight shorthanded situations (12:29) to improve to 24 of 27 on the penalty kill.  Their 88.9% success rate ranks seventh in the league.
-New York out-hit Vancouver, 31-22 in the contest, and have now out-hit their opponents, 79-46, in their last three games.
-The Rangers were also credited with 23 blocked shots in the game.

Player Notes:

-Henrik Lundqvist turned aside all 40 shots faced to record his first shutout of the season, and improve to 1-1-2 with a 1.69 goals against average and a .947 save percentage through four games.  Lundqvist, who was making his 30th consecutive regular season start dating back to Feb. 11, 2011 at Atlanta (35th consecutive start including playoffs), is now one shutout shy of 40 career total shutouts (36 regular season, three playoff).  Tonight’s performance marked the third time in his career he posted a 40+ save shutout, and he improved to 6-0-5 in 11 career 40 or more save games.
-Ryan McDonagh notched a goal and added an assist to record his first career multi-point performance.  He also posted a plus-three rating, and was credited with three hits and three blocked shots in 24:30 of ice time.  McDonagh now leads all team defensemen in goals (one), assists (two) and points (three), and is tied for second on the team in scoring and plus/minus rating (plus-two), and third in assists.  He also ranks 13th in the NHL and second on the team in average ice time (25:08).
-Brandon Prust tallied two assists in the contest, including one on the game-winning goal, and he has now registered three points (one goal, two assists) in the last two games.  Prust is tied for second on the team in scoring with three points, and third with two assists on the season.
-Mike Rupp registered his first point as a Ranger with the game-winning goal at 2:22 of the third period, and was credited with four hits.  He is now tied for third on the team with 10 hits on the season.
-Marian Gaborik recorded an even strength goal at 17:39 of the third period and tied for the team-high with three shots on goal.  He has now tallied a goal in three of the Rangers’ four games this season, including each of the last two contests.  Gaborik leads the team in goals (three), is tied for second in points (three) and ranks second in shots on goal (17).
-Brian Boyle notched his first goal of the season with an even strength tally at 11:30 of the third period, and led all forwards with three blocked shots.
-Brad Richards registered an assist on Gaborik’s third period goal to extend his scoring streak to four games (one goal, three assists over the span), having recorded a point in each of the Rangers’ four games to begin the season.  He is now one assist shy of 500 career NHL assists.  Richards also led all team forwards with 21:11 of ice time.  He leads the team in scoring with four points and is tied for first with three assists on the season.
-Michael Del Zotto tallied the primary assist on Rupp’s game-winning goal, and posted a plus-one rating in the contest.  He has now posted a plus or even rating in each of the Rangers’ four games to begin the season, and he leads the team with a plus-four rating.
-Brandon Dubinsky recorded the primary assist on McDonagh’s third period goal, was credited with four hits and won a team-high seven faceoffs in 13 attempts (54%).  He ranks second on the team with a 56.3% faceoff winning percentage (27-48).
-Ruslan Fedotenko registered the primary assist on Boyle’s third period goal and has now tallied an assist in three of the team’s four games to begin the season, including each of the last two contests.  He is tied for the team lead in assists (three) and is tied for second in points (three) on the season.
-Artem Anisimov notched an assist on McDonagh’s third period goal, and is now tied for third on the team with two assists on the season.
-Dan Girardi was credited with three blocked shots and posted a plus-three rating in a game-high 28:53 of ice time.  He leads the NHL in average ice time (29:21), and leads the team in blocked shots (11).
-Derek Stepan was credited with a team-high five hits and logged 20:35 of ice time, and he is now tied for the team lead with 11 hits on the season.
-Steve Eminger led all skaters with four blocked shots, and was credited with three hits in the contest.  He ranks second on the team with 10 blocked shots.
-Forward Kris Newbury registered two hits while making his season debut following his recall from Connecticut (AHL) on Saturday.

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  1. Wicky©getting strikes for no reason!! on

    I BANJ’d


    Wicky©getting strikes for no reason!! October 19th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
    I agree with orr, I just think if the “torts is awesome crowd” would just admit that some personal feelings by the coach did influence the decision and the “fire torts crowd” would just admit avery’s play also had something to do with it as well, those of us that are actually reasonable about this would not have to “duck” all the time or see a “here we go again” post from the blogfather!!

  2. Wicky©getting strikes for no reason!! on

    what exactly did I do the other day to get two strikes or was that not even directed at me??

  3. I don’t think Torts demoting Avery because of personal feelings is a bad thing. I don’t see how I have to demean Torts for that. Why is it mutually exclusive? Torts can use his personal feelings and do whatever he sees fit. I think Torts is awesome but I am not psychotic about defending him. He does things that bothers me. The point is he is a *human being*

    I think the “Two Strikes” thing was me. I am not sure what I did to get one strike. I guess I crossed a line yesterday. But I am pretty sure it was entirely me.

  4. Wicky©getting strikes for no reason!! on

    speaking of, did mama show up with her newspaper yet after last night??

  5. Torts is happy Sean is gone. No question. When a 4th line guy is a complete pain in the a**, getting rid of him had to make Torts happy. But that decision was made easier by the fact that Avery made 3 times the money EC makes. And seeing how this team needs a D man, it is a lot more than just Torts getting over on Sean. Sean is a good 4th liner making too much money and too much trouble for anyone around him.

    Good riddance. Let’s move on already.


  6. I hope he shows up soon because when I get in trouble I like to hash it out and clear the air. No bad blood (for oil!)

  7. Wicky©getting strikes for no reason!! on

    again, one dangerfield gets out of line and we all go down…thanks manny

    I also do not think the personal feelings thing re torts is a bad thing. I have said it several times, he isn’t the first coach and will not be the last to get rid of a player partially (or wholly in some cases) based on personal dislike or feelings.

    “some people” just need to admit that personal dislikes were partially involved!

  8. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    Yaaaay i am finallyOn a plane after missing my flight by 4 minutes!!! Hopefully i will lick out standby in baltimore! Did we trade that lousy bum Lundqvist yet??

  9. I agree its prob a 50/50 thing wit torts personal feelings vs. avery not showing anythin…..whether he liked him or not, I KNOW torts woudnt demote him had he been lightin it up or playin effectively…..i really feel he wouda kept avery if he was contributing….i liked Avery too, even have his jersey, but I feel its time to move on and there have been other Rangers personell moves that were far more important / upsetting lol

  10. Wicky – sorry I got you in trouble or made you think you were in trouble. I will take my lashings like a man.

  11. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    LUCK out damnit!! Hiw are youse guys today? Iam rockin my CALLY jersey representin!!!

  12. I thought I mentioned this the other day. Dolan and Sather wanted Avery on the team. Both for various reasons I am guessing but Dolan figured he put fans in the stands and Sather probably is tired of all the egg on his face with the massive contracts. Whatever the reasoning, Torts said no and they both deferred to him. That is what happened. I know for a fact and if I could divulge how I know this I would. But I can’t. But I’d bet sizola that it is the truth.

    And Avery’s shoulder is 100% fine. It is just Avery being Avery and playing sour grapes…and surely not helping any chance he has of being recalled. If Newbury can play 7 or 8mins a night, hit some people, fight if needed, and occasionally put the biscuit in the basket, then he is the best chance of keeping Avery in the belly of the Whale. If Newbury fades, you know it won’t be EC or Wolski preventing Avery from coming up. It would be just Avery preventing it by not playing or talking smack or both.

    Let’s move on.

  13. People’s front of Judea? Bloody people’s front of Judea! We’re the Judean People’s Front!

  14. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    I knew it would be YOU commenting C3!! Hard to fly and type! Santa better bring me an iPad for Christmas!

  15. BANJ (Occupying the previous thread.) on

    Manny, I’m glad they’re getting something, they have a hell of a time.

  16. I don’t think the Avery quote had anything worth responding to. He just said getting recalled is out of his control.

  17. wicky

    Put some names to who you think the “Torts is awesome” or “some people” crowd are, will you?

    Because I don’t remember many not acknowledging that Torts more than likely doesn’t like Avery and that it factored into the decision. Don’t fall into the firetorts trap of perpetuating that view or that anyone who simply doesn’t believe he deserves firing is blindly supportive of everything he does.

  18. New Newman- I’m a tad confused on how you use “I know for a fact” and “I’m guessing” within the same paragraph

  19. Wicky©getting strikes for no reason!! on

    safe travels

    I will have to do it some other time (sorry)! I’m OFF…to work!

    Later assens!

  20. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    2 hours ilbzo, and i will be standby in md. Hopefully get on that one pronto and get to Islip at about 7

  21. Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother… sister, sorry.

  22. BANJ (Occupying the previous thread.) on

    But apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
    – Brought peace?
    -Oh, peace? SHUT UP!


  23. There shall in that time be rumors of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia-work base, that has an attachment. At that time, a friend shall lose his friend’s hammer, and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o’clock.

  24. We’re giving Pilate two days to dismantle the entire apparatus of the Roman Imperialist State, and if he doesn’t agree immediately, we execute her.

  25. Manny,

    I think Kopitar’s made passes like that before. I specifically recall a game where LA played SJS; he lobbed it all the way into SJS territory, and Brown picked it up and scored on the breakway.

  26. Wowzah. That guy has puck handling abilities! I believe you. I always cede to your supreme knowledge. Even if you are part of the group of “no respect” boneheads.

  27. I don’t know what Dolan/Sather reasoning was. That is where I said, “I guess.”

    The “know for a fact” part is based on my source who knows all the parties involved. He told me the basics, didn’t say why Dolan/Sather, or Torts for that matter, thought the way they did.

    And Carp I was as surprised as you when this person said Dolan (and Sather) wanted him.

  28. wow LW you really do love me, always referring to me. i particularly like when you attribute things to me that i never said. if only what you wrote made any sense…

    also, new newman, i have heard the exact same thing re: Dolan and Sather wanting Avery on the team from a very reliable source.

  29. No, you’d then be attributing something to me that I never said, ilb. A habit that appears to be extremely contagious.

  30. i love that movie!

    but seriously… when was the last time we won in Calgary? Is there a website where you can look up all time records of teams vs. each other?

  31. November 14, 2002 New York 2 – Calgary 1

    So when do you give Biron a start? He beat the Flames last year at MSG.

  32. thanks ddebened.

    “CALGARY, Alberta (AP) — New York Rangers goalie Dan Blackburn seems to save his best for the Calgary Flames.

    The 19-year-old backstop was brilliant Thursday night, making 35 saves to backstop the Rangers to a 2-1 victory over the Flames.

    Last week, Blackburn made 26 saves for his first NHL shutout in a 1-0 win over the Flames in New York.”

    sigh… the future was so bright for Blackburn

  33. >>So when do you give Biron a start? He beat the Flames last year at MSG

    I think the games are still a little far between to give Hank a night off yet. I say Nov. 6 against the Winnipeg Thrashers. Second of back to back games.

  34. manny, i think it was Bob the Builder who got the second strike…he called the rangers’ power play a ‘snaggled tooth’ power play… ROFLMAO …wtb, is that supposed to mean?? lol

  35. Biron should be due for the start after next. Just my guess and what do I know? I don’t watch the games.

    HAHA Snaggled Tooth! Bob!

  36. I was thinking maybe Calgary until last night. If Hank was given the choice he’d probably always take the ‘next’ game. Then he would look to play the game after that and so on. If that makes any sense. lol

    That’s about 1/7 of the season AckP. Biron started 15 games last year but would have seen a few more if he hadn’t gotten hurt.

  37. No way Lundqvist sits against Calgary. Not after the game he played last night…

    Biron will probably play against the Oilers since the game against Winnipeg is a conference game and all…

  38. He said straggled tooth, I guess meaning it didn’t have much bite.

    I think he said MDZ’s skating was snaggled tooth

  39. Its pretty obvious Tortorella made his decision to cut him before training camp started despite the fact that he contributes more towards winning than Christensen.

    There is no debating that. However, Avery dug his own grave and has noone to blame but himself. He had 3 goals in 76 games. Had that number been around 10, he most likely stays but 1.9 mil is a lot to pay an agitator…

  40. oleo, I agree.
    He’s not coming back. But that doesn’t mean Christensen should stay. I was never crazy about him, except in the skills competition.

  41. BANJ (Occupying the previous thread) on

    Perfect 4everanger thank you! Now with the exchange rate, will a shirt cost like $75? ;P

  42. CCCP – To date, I wonder what would have happened if the Rangers simply let Blackburn develop at his own pace instead of rushing him. Imagine a tandem of Lundqvist and Blackburn. A healthy Blackburn and Lundqvist also probably means we wouldn’t have drafted Montoya with the sixth overall.

  43. Tony from AZ – Come on. What’s there not to like about Christensen? His powers of invisibility are legendary. In fact, I’m surprised Tortorella hasn’t used him to sneak into the opposing locker room to scout out their strategies. Maybe that’s why they won last night.

  44. well Avery wasn’t exactly wrong…i guess he just shouldn’t say it out loud.

    however, all talk today should be about Lundqvist and McMonster! and maybe a little THE PRUST! i like how he was 3rd star of the game, i’m not so sure Torts agrees with that one.

    other random observations…Woywitka looked better. so did Del Zotto. Dan Hamhuis was the worst player in the game. Lundqvist is standing up more, playing less on his knees than we have seen from time to time. the hat should have been kept secret. did you see Ryan McMonster turn on his heels just like Leetch used to? that play was amazing!

  45. Carp, thanks for responding to my question about Dale Weise in the last post… I thought that Vancouver might have forced the Rangers into waiving him… but who really knows? I just wonder how the conversations went down (if there were any) between the clubs on his behalf? Is this one of those unspoken things between GM’s? How would Vancouver know for sure what the Rangers’ intentions are with players before the season starts? When was the last conversation about Weise? Did the Rangers make a call before waiving him?

    Lots of questions, who really cares I know… I’m just fascinated by the circumstance. There are going to be a lot harder decisions coming in the next year or so… much better players they’ll either have to move or let go… I vote for always trying your hand in a trade, even if it’s just picks.

    Since little is known of the actual transgression of the decision and process (either by coach or GM, but maybe we aren’t supposed to know anyway) in the Weise scenario, as well as knowing what lies ahead for the organization as far as the numbers game, I just wonder how involved the discussions get and who plays who more?

    Rambling on… please continue with all of the Avery and Torts convos!


  46. BANJ (Occupying the previous thread) on

    4everanger, thanks again. You deserve a shirt for your help. Want one? I’ll order it tomorrow.

  47. Knowing that all proceeds goes to families, I wanted to buy one or more, but there are only XXL, too big for me…Instead, I just send some money to their families fund account. But thank you much.

  48. BTW, if you’ll do that, you should know (in case you didn’t get it from russian) you can pay only by major credit card, they use very secure service (I know personaly) and fee will be 0.5 – 0.8% from total order amount.

  49. Dale Weise was never going to be important member of the Rangers. He was simply a stop gap until one of Hagelin or Bourque joins the team.

    I expect Hagelin to get the call somewhere around Thanksgiving/Christmas and think him, Boyle and Fedotenko could be a productive 3rd line with Newbury, Prust and Rupp being a 4th line full of “jam”

  50. Oh, and last, but not least BANJ, I’m not religious at all, but may you be blessed for care and good deeds. I’m kind of sucker for that…maybe gettin old.

  51. dd, thanx re: bob the builder vernacular… im still laughing…i couldnt even repeat them correctly!!

  52. phil, I think they put the invisible Christensen in front or back of Lundqvist. That’s why so many pucks stayed out, and nobody was any the wiser.

  53. BANJ (Occupying the previous thread) on

    That was going to be my next question. I didn’t want “Peggy” to max me out!

  54. Olesmirf, I wasn’t implying that they keep Weise… my thoughts are to the contrary… I want the team to be creative in the decision process of these players going forward. I want to see some trades down the road, especially when I hear that a team was interested in a player for two years.


  55. BANJ (Occupying the previous thread) on

    I’m not religious either. But if I can afford it, I try and help.

  56. OH MY GOSH, HE SAID AVERY!!! Comment, refresh!

    I missed when Joe said he had info on Staal. Must have been during the first period when I was watching the TSN broadcast. So weird.

  57. Sometimes its worth paying more for a guy who actually plays for the name on the front of the jersey, rather than the back. Torts must be banking on Wolski and EC scoring a lot this year because if things dont go well Torts will be joining the unemployment numbers, and you know EC and Wolski arent going to be calling any players only meetings to take the heat off.

  58. watching the jets vs. the maple leafs on center ice. The announcer stated that the Jets and rangers are the only two teams who haven’t scored a power play goal this season and than the jets scored a power play goal. That means our boys are the only nhl team without a power play goal. I guess I shouldn’t be so surprised.

  59. leetchhalloffame on

    Torts can be a real carcillo. Wonder what his problem is. Think he needs Dr. Melfi.

  60. billybleedsblue on

    ORR new south park. c’mon, watch it! I know ya wanna! I know it’s not uncensored though :( Hey the Last of the Mexheecians or whatever that was was pretty darn funny. Tonight’s is “Bass to Mouth” LOL WTH.

    Oh, and… LET’S GO RANGERS!!!!!

  61. All of a sudden, Burke is looking like a genius for grabbing Kessel.

    I don’t know what he did this summer, but he = Monster!

    7 goals, 12 points in 5 games. Still early in the season though, but he’s off to an amazing start.

  62. bob The Builder (Not the Bob You are thinking of) on

    MaoTM, I think it in poor taste to vilify this tractor for the staggle toothing of certain player’s names…this tractor ain’t so young and sometimes can’t see the road. I sees that David Dubinsky is no longer a David, but a Brendon.

    sincerest apologies yours,
    Bob the BUilder

  63. Bob, you are right…I meant no slight, and like your style. I am as cordial as they come. Glad you are here posting. I happen to be a big fan of Brendon Dubinsky too! ;)

  64. Good Bill Simmons article – with Sherriff Shanny locking up the crims all we need is the refs to stop stopping the game constantly and the NHL is left with a pretty good on-ice product to steal a lot of NBA fans.

    Mike – good team, will be a very good one if Crosby and Carter get back on the ice and start scoring, i’d have MDZ and Couture on a short leash, depending on what is available on the waiver wire.

    p.s. Go Cards!!

  65. Boom Boom Bathgate on

    The Rangers “rush” about one player for every 25 players they stonewall until the age range of 25-27. I say better to “rush” a player than reduce his development to “journeyman” status, like Weiss and about 30 others over the past decade. Let’s find out what a promising looking kid has to offer, asap. I would have Mac up here for muscle, for a tryout, and I sure wouldn’t be wasting the big-time opportunity as regards Bourque and Hagelin, plus there is no way I would have allowed Krieder to go back back to being a schoolboy for another year, with all promise he represents.

    What this club needs is a 40-goal scoring 20-year old to get over that ridiculous, anti-youth bias hump. We have to keep the flat tire E.C.’s and Wolski’s of the world around when we have better in the system? Says who? Tell it to the Black Hawks and Bruins.

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