Rangers at Canucks tonight


Pre-game notes courtesy of the Rangers:

Rogers Arena – Vancouver, British Columbia
October 18, 2011 – 10 p.m.

The Rangers will face-off against the Vancouver Canucks at Rogers Arena (10 p.m.), to begin a six-game stretch against Canadian opponents including four on the road to begin the set. The Blueshirts enter the contest having been defeated by the New York Islanders, 4-2, on Saturday at Nassau Colieseum, and are now 0-1-2 (2 pts) to begin the season. New York ranked third among Eastern Conference teams vs. the Western Conference last season, posting an 11-7-0 record including a 4-3-0 mark against Northwest Division opponents. The Canucks enter the contest with a 2-2-1 (5 pts) record, having defeated the Oilers, 4-3, on Saturday at Edmonton. Following the contest, the Rangers will face-off against the Calgary Flames on Thursday, Oct. 20, at Scotiabank Saddledome (9:30 p.m.), in the second game of their four-game Canadian road trip.

-TV: MSG Network

9:30 p.m. – Rangers Pre-Game Show with Bill Pidto and Ron Duguay
10:00 p.m. – Rangers at Canucks
Broadcasters: Sam Rosen (Play-By-Play), Joe Micheletti (Analyst), John Giannone (In-Game Reporter)
-Radio: 1050 ESPN Radio and newyorkrangers.com
9:30 p.m. – Rangers Pre-Game Show
10:00 p.m. – Rangers at Canucks
Broadcasters: Joe Tolleson (Play-By-Play), Dave Maloney (Analyst)

-All-Time: 72-30-8-0 overall (39-13-5-0 at home; 33-17-3-0 on the road)
-2011-12: Tonight marks the first and only meeting this season.
-Last Season: New York was 1-0-0 overall, having won their only meeting, 1-0, on Jan. 13 at Madison Square Garden. Henrik Lundqvist made 31 saves for the shutout, and Wojtek Wolski tallied the lone goal, his first as a Ranger, on the power play at 7:18 of the second period. Brandon Dubinsky and Marian Gaborik each recorded an assist.
-New York ranks 19th with a 0-1-2 (2 pts) record on the road; Vancouver ranks 22nd with a 0-0-1 (1 pt) mark at home
-The Rangers have not faced a Northwest Division opponent this season; the Canucks are 0-1-1 vs. the Atlantic Division
-Henrik Lundqvist has posted a 1-3-0 record with a 3.24 GAA and one shutout in four career regular season contests vs. Vancouver; Martin Biron is 3-3-1-0 with a 2.85 GAA in eight career regular season games vs. the Canucks
-Marian Gaborik leads the Rangers with 18 goals, 14 assists and 32 points in 38 career regular season contests vs. Vancouver; Brad Richards has tallied 16 points (eight goals, eight assists) in 16 games vs. the Canucks, and Wojtek Wolski has recorded 13 assists and 18 points in 27 games against Vancouver
-New York lists no former Canucks on their roster
-Vancouver lists four former Rangers on their roster: Chris Higgins (2009-10); Manny Malhotra (1998-99 thru 2001-02); Mikael Samuelsson (2001-02, 2002-03); Dale Weise (2010-11)

-Power Play: The Rangers did not tally a goal in four power play opportunities (7:06) on Saturday at Long Island, and are now 0-12 through three games. The Rangers are 0-1 (0:08) in five-on-three situations (last – 10/8 at ANA), and 0-1 (0:40) when four-on-three (last – 10/8 at ANA). Shorthanded goals allowed (0).
-Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts surrendered two goals to the Islanders in eight shorthanded situations (11:33) on Saturday at Long Island. New York ranks 16th overall (16-19, 84.2%) and 15th on the road (16-19, 84.2%). The Rangers are 2-2 (0:44) in three-on-five situations (last – 10/15 at NYI), and 0-1 (1:17) when three-on-four (last – 10/7 at LAK). Shorthanded goals for (0).
-Four-on-Four: New York did not tally/yield a goal in one four-on-four situation (0:54) on Saturday at Long Island, and are now even in seven four-on-four situations (11:54). Four-on-four goals for (0). Four-on-four goals allowed (0).

The Rangers completed their first of 14 back-to-back sets this season with a 2-1 shootout loss against the Anaheim Ducks on Oct. 8 at Ericsson Globe Arena. New York has posted a record of 0-0-1 (0-0-0 at home, 0-0-1 on the road) in the first game of the set, and are 0-0-1 (0-0-0 at home, 0-0-1 on the road) in the second game. Since 2009-10, New York is 21-8-3 in the back-end of back-to-back sets, including a 9-3-1 mark at MSG and 12-5-2 on the road over the span. The Rangers’ next back-to-back set is Nov. 5-6 vs. Montreal and Winnipeg, both games to be played at Madison Square Garden.

The Rangers lead the league with a 57.3% faceoff winning percentage, winning 94-of-164 faceoff attempts this season. Brad Richards leads all NHL players with an 80.0% faceoff winning percentage (24-30).

Ryan Callahan notched the Rangers’ first goal of the season at 15:22 of the first period on Oct. 7 against the Kings, while making his debut as the team’s captain. He also led all skaters with a career-high, 11 shots and led all team forwards with 20:30 of ice time. Callahan’s 11 shots established a Rangers record for most shots in a season opener, and were the most by an NHL player in a season-opening game since Pavel Bure on Oct. 3, 1997 vs. Anaheim (11 shots).  The last Ranger to register at least 11 shots in a game was Brendan Shanahan on Apr. 4, 2008 vs. the Islanders (12 shots).

The Rangers had three players make their Rangers debut in the team’s season opener on Oct. 7 against the Kings – Tim Erixon (NHL debut), Brad Richards (one assist) and Mike Rupp. In addition, defenseman Jeff Woywitka made his Rangers debut on Saturday at Long Island.

Forwards Brandon Prust and Mike Rupp both reached NHL milestones on Saturday at Long Island. Prust skated in his 200th career NHL game, while Rupp made his 500th career NHL appearance. Prust has registered 47 points (20 goals, 27 assists) and 461 penalty minutes with the Rangers, Calgary Flames and Phoenix Coyotes. The five-year NHL veteran has tallied 15% of his career points while shorthanded (five goals, two assists). Rupp has recorded 89 points (49 goals, 40 assists) and 661 penalty minutes in nine seasons with the Rangers, New Jersey Devils, Phoenix Coyotes, Columbus Blue Jackets and Pittsburgh Penguins.

-The Rangers have posted a record of 281-271-93 all-time in the month of October, including a 176-117-48 mark at home and a 105-154-45 record on the road. New York (0-1-2) is scheduled to play 10 games during the season’s opening month in 2011-12, with three games being contested at MSG and seven scheduled on the road.
-Legendary Rangers’ defenseman Brian Leetch holds the franchise record for most points in the month of October, having registered 43 goals and 130 assists for 173 career points in the season’s opening month.
-The Blueshirts’ all-time leader for most career wins in the month of October is Mike Richter, who registered 40 career wins during the season’s opening month. Henrik Lundqvist has recorded 33 career wins during the month of October.
-New York has posted two, seven-game winning streaks in the month of October, winning seven consecutive games during the season’s opening month in 2009-10 (Oct. 3 vs. Ottawa to Oct. 17 at Toronto) and 1988-89 (Oct. 16 vs. Vancouver to Oct. 30 vs. Pittsburgh).

The Rangers are currently 16 wins shy of 2,500 wins, having won 2,484 games all-time in franchise history.

Brad Richards currently leads the team in scoring with three points, and enters the contest with a three-game scoring streak (one goal, two assists over the span). He has registered a point in each of his first three games as a Ranger to begin the season. In addition, Richards has also won 24-of-30 faceoff attempts for an NHL-leading 80.0% faceoff winning percentage.

-Brian Boyle: 8 games from 200th NHL career
-Steve Eminger: 9 points from 100th NHL career
-Brad Richards: 2 assists from 500th NHL career
-Wojtek Wolski: 6 games from 400th NHL career; 9 goals from 100th NHL career

-Tim Erixon: 1st career NHL game (10/7 at LAK)
-Brandon Prust: 200th career NHL game (10/15 at NYI)
-Mike Rupp: 500th career NHL game (10/15 at NYI)

-Marc Staal (concussion, IR on 10/5) 3
-Wojtek Wolski (groin, 10/7) 2
-Michael Sauer (shoulder, 10/8)  1
Total Man-Games Lost: 6

-Oct. 15 – Recalled forward Kris Newbury from Connecticut (AHL)
-Oct. 15 – Assigned forward Mats Zuccarello to Connecticut (AHL)
-Oct. 16 – Recalled defenseman Brendan Bell from Connecticut (AHL)

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  1. Wow, 1st time with 1st comment! Don’t post often but read the blog everyday. Carp, thanks for everything you do here. LGR!

  2. Ha! Carp we are going to be waiting a long time for that Eminger milestone! I reckon Richards will be close to 600 by the time Eminger gets those 9 he needs!!

    Looks like we solved our faceoff problems at least, now if they can get that PP going we might be getting somewhere….

  3. Good morning all. Still no NHL games available in Norwegianpansyland.

    NHL hasn’t answered my email those pieces of carcillo. NYR did but they where wrong…


  4. If I am remembering correctly, beating the Canucks really got this team going last year. Let’s do that again.

  5. CW-crazy article. I would NOT trade Duby. It’s only 3 games so let’s not panic. Duby can dominate the offensive zone and hold onto the puck like nobody we’ve seen since Jagr in 2006. Plus I know the article is bogus when he says we gave up a top 4 D in Rozy. Rozy was shot. Everybody just relax and let this team get going.

  6. Even those who think Dubi spends 18 minutes a game falling over would laugh at the concept of trading him with the main aim of acquiring a 39-year-old Ray Whitney.

    Never a bad rule of thumb to ignore anything published by Bleacher Report.

  7. billybleedsblue on

    Ilb, feeling great today, it’s gonna be another long day… hopefully I can catch SOME of the game tonight.

    Everybody needs to relax man, seriously. It’s not like getting upset will change anything anyways.

    BTW, where the heck is EddieEddieEddie? :(

  8. Amen. Relax. Please. Go out, buy a Rangers snapback and chill out!

    Eddie is probably: (A) at a vineyard; (2) giving an extended exam to his freshmen (a/k/a freshmeat); or (d) desperately trying to make up lyrics to a song to quote all day and we will see him shortly.

  9. Interesting article CW. Not sure how I feel about Dubi but I think it might be too early to make a move. If the west coast is a bust then maybe something happens.


  10. Bleacher Report does suck, and the trade for Whitney sounds crazy (as I said when I posted it). But the Suter trade sounds like something that may be plausible. What strikes me in the article is that he puts Kreider in the lineup in the very near future. He brings up the point: Next season and the season after may be what the NYR load up for. Not necessarily this season.

    Again, as I said, I am not really for trading anyone ESPECIALLY A GUY I LIKE IN DUBI. But there may be a bigger picture here…

  11. Right…and that bigger picture includes Dubi’s “Luigi-style” Mustache!

    cw- I don’t think it was an attack on you. Just on Bleacher Report and their attempt to stir it up. (ba dum dum dum ba dum dum dum oh stiiiiir it up!)

  12. Good morning all! RangerSwede, did you see Krisy’s post from last night? You apparently also made TV!!! Hey, stop stealing my thunder! LGR…..late for work….later!

  13. I have no knowledge of any Ranger trades, nor would I know how to handle it if I did. I’m so far behind you NYC folks that it would be laughable for me to attempt to make any suggestions. Too far removed from the NY scene. (when you all begin speaking of food etc., it’s like I’m trying to comprehend the details of my wife’s sewing circle of friends with cloth, thread, needles, machines ad infinitum.) Totally lost.But I do know hockey. I’ve often said I’m a Ranger follower, but basically am a hockey fan. \There are any number of teams and players I admire, and follow their games with interest.

    Now let me tell you…wait til you meet the Panthers. This is a cadre of speed balls, with great skills who I believe may well go disrespected thru much of this season. They also keep on hand a monster hulk that seems like he’d like nothing better than to crunch anyone bringing grief to his team mates. I watched them plaster the Lightning on a home and home series, and the games were eye opening. Don’t ask me their names…I know them not. But they do
    bring the action. And the Bolts have of course the late and un lamented Matt Gilroy playing right defense for the Bolts, who drew much acclaim from the announcing staff for his defensive play and his pin point passing. Remarkable, that such a player could not qualify for the NY Ranger team.

    Wait til you see the Panthers.

  14. Re Carp’s rant yesterday: Of course he’s right but if it’s of any consolation, the panic in the streets isn’t something only Ranger/New York team fans are guilty of. Every fan base does the same thing – overreact negatively when the team struggles and predict absolute glory when the team’s winning.

    It’s human nature and part of the aura of fandomism!!

  15. gameday i only hope if i am staying up til 1 am tonight having to be up at 5am with a crying baby they better get two points tonight.
    as far as the article with dubi the whitney trade if it happened i would go nuts the suter deal could be the play there.

    ryan suter is a solid d man and doesnt nearly get the credit he deserves

  16. Look – this trade is a _bad_ idea! If we trade Artie AND/OR Luigi we will only be here talking about all we lost to get _____ Player who isn’t producing and doesn’t have the potential. We lost one, or two, of our (defending the) “core” guys for what? Come on people. Everyone will just complaine *more* if we lose them and they score against us.

    _see_ PA Parenteau

  17. Based on Fran’s comments i just had a look at the Panthers:
    Jovocop, Brian (perennialy minus) Campbell, Versteeg, Weiss and Gudbrandson(the aforementioned Hulk).

    Plus Jose Three-or-more is actually more like Jose Two-and-a-half-or-more which might explain the better than expected record at the moment.

    Will be interesting to see if they can keep it up, because i dont think Tampa will be so easy when they hit their stride and their other win was the opener against the Isles follwed by a loss at Pitt.

    Biggest surprises for me so far are the Avs, Stars and Isles but there is a long way to go yet……

  18. Suter for Dubi? Suter is a stud D-man…I’d have to think about that one for a long time….

  19. Waaay to early in the season to trade big pieces like that. Unless Torts has a report from the doctors saying Staal will miss the entire season and Sauer 20+ games?
    Isnt that why we picked up Woywhatever and brought Erixon back up, to fill a gap while our 2 studs heal?

  20. Using Miami’s description, that article is Bush-League. I’m not even going to talk about Ray Whitney, 39, for Dubinsky, or about his knowledge of salary cap. But why would you give up Dubinsky, a prospect or two, and a pick for a player with expiring contract? There is no way Nashville can keep both Sutter and Weber. They’ll have to unload one of them at some point for much less than that, or they will lose him for nothing. Patience.

  21. Assuming you’re getting a healthy Staal and Sauer back at some point, I have no interest in Ryan Suter and his bloated contract anyway

  22. ilb bleacher report is just one of those sites – it comes up in my newsnow.co.uk feed and i never click a link. Usually stories like “10 Reasons why the Rangers will make Mark Messier their next coach (or insert other random and unfeasible event here)”

    Its probably all written by Eklund anyway.

  23. You guys are WAAAAAAAAAAAAY over-reacting. It’s just some dude speculating, not commenting on alledged rumours.

    If Dubinsky gets traded, he’ll fetch a helluvalot more than Ray Whitney. How about Kyle Turris and Whitney?

  24. Amen. Although, I would hope that he’s going somewhere, he’s just doing that with the Rangers!

  25. Exactly. It is just speculation. What I gathered (reading the ENTIRE story and not just reading the first proposal and running back to Ranger Report to spew vitriol against Bleacher Report) was a perspective that I never considered: Trading a core player. Seems like a mistake at first glance, but if the NYR D corps is in shambles wouldn’t it be foolish to not consider a move?


  26. Does Turris realise the damage this holdout could do to his reputation? Do Eric Lindros, Alexei Yashin, Petr Nedved stand out to you as popular with fans? Iginla did it, but at least then it was his 4th seasons and he was allowed to training camp after paying his own insurance and he signed a few games into the season and has done a decent job of rebuilding his reputation as the face of the Flames.
    Chances are Phoenix fans will boo him if he ever does play now, unless he signs and pots 30 goals – difficult position for their GM

  27. Nothing against you at all, cw. I did read past the first proposal. Just makes the whole thing have no credibility to include the first one at all.

    And I’m the RR in-house expert on the issue of no credibility.

  28. Good to see a lot of our regulars returning … cw and 22, among many others. And our new commentors like Rangers 75 (good job, buddy).

    Good morning, Sally!

    Maybe they can trade Dubinsky for Higgins. Or Parenteau. Or Chelios.

  29. Holdouts are really tricky. We have to remember that some players get injured and then retire without enough money to pay their health insurance or to pay their bills. That’s a really tough spot. Especially in sports like Football, where the average career is 3 or 4 years and a player retires with under 1 Million dollars around the age of 24, or sports like Hockey where people can retire with severe injuries and bills to pay. We have to always remember, as fans, that these guys do have lives and families to provide for and they retire at a much younger age than most of us.

    Not saying it’s not wrong. Just saying it’s a tricky subject. This isn’t baseball where guys can make $25M in 1 year.

  30. I see us winning 1 of these 4 games on the road, then we’ll turn it around once we get back to MSG.

  31. cw- I did read it. You don’t just trade your core player ( plus a couple of prospects and picks as he suggested ) for expiring contract. They’ll have to unload him anyway, or lose him for nothing. If the Rangers were contending this year, you think twice about it. But not this year. Patience. And how about his suggestion that if Staal is out for prolonged time, they will have even more cap space? No, they won’t.

  32. How is that guy in that article CW posted putting Krieder on the team next year? I remember reading some of Kreider’s comments last year, and he didn’t seem to be 1 year away from the NHL even by the kid’s own admission!

    CW, you gave that Bob the Builder guy the business for suggesting Dubi trade now you are thinking it plausible….always shows that important to keep an open mind… even if the name has ‘bob’ in it..lol

    I prefer to see Dubi at center…unless he is playing with a much better offensive player. Dubi with Callie on the wing is a great combo when they are both flying… i’d side with giving them more time.


  33. Caber!!!

    I’ll say this: Caber is an upgrade over Eminger and Woywitka. A very slight upgrade, but an upgrade nonetheless. I thought his handlebar stache was inspring last year…

    Think he is still a FA, ilb…

  34. Yo Doodie – you have lots of experience as an attorney…you want to join the firm I work at? We are hiring? wink wink….

  35. Manny,
    I think MDZ has looked better this year. He came in as a precocious kid, and prolly dominated every level of play as a youngster. My main concern with him is his speed. For an undersized player, he should be a speed demon…that said, the kid WANTS to score, and that can’t be said for many of the Rangers players…i’m hoping that with Staal out this kid can regain his confidence…i was shocked how good he was last game.

  36. Mao, noticed the same thing about Del Z. He’s been solid thus far. Looked real good last game…

  37. Wicky©(AKA the poster with no name!!!) on

    I hate to break this to you guys, but this bleacher report trade stuff about vv2.0 is old news, it was discussed yesterday (or brought up at least)!!!!

    Morning ILB and all!!

  38. Wicky©(AKA the poster with no name!!!) on

    perhaps you guys should read old posts or all the posts before “rehashing things”

  39. i think del zotto is making a lot of progress and still think he has a lot of upside … as long as he isnt expected to be a shutdown guy.

  40. You got it Doodie. Although I was thinking mainly of myself – trying to replace a Devils fan in this office with a Rangers fan.

  41. NYR_Fan,
    How you been, bro?

    Carp, I hope you are right on MDZ …had a good laugh when Orr labeled MDZ as ‘Avery’ with his penchant for wayward wrist shots…lol

  42. Sure Carp – You can come work here! You just have to wear a cool fedora with a press pass in it and say things like “Yea….ya see” like a 1930’s crime film.

  43. If we’ve learned anything today, it’s that nobody reads what wicky posts. And that nobody wants to work alongside Manny.

  44. Wicky©(AKA the poster with no name!!!) on


    I just figured it out Dolan and the rangers have it out for carp!!! They are trying to trade/demote all the ranger players (and coach) that drive up all the blog numbers…


    Speaking of conspiracy theories…anyone seen orr lately? Did he explode from eating too much ben and jerry’s? Or did he quit eating and the company send out a “re eduction” team to make sure he starts again quickly?

  45. Doing well, Mao. Hanging in there, bro….

    Sorry about your bro, btw…saw the post the other day….

  46. Re: ORR

    I looked in Brooklyn Blogs and newspapers – no reports of people exploding from Ben & Jerry’s. Maybe GameFly investigated him and he is currently in lockup!

  47. Wicky©(AKA the poster with no name!!!) on

    I agree with ILB, we did the same thing with brich…didn’t lose any assets to get him. I guess that would change if the expiring contract we were looking at was the final piece so to speak. Other than that get that person without losing assets in the summer.

    I think suter gets a bit looked over because of that other d man that invented the bbq grill he plays with.

  48. Wicky©(AKA the wind!!!) on

    that was just the wind!!

    I totally forgot the gamefly angle!!!

    When is my interview manny?

  49. Wicky – have your people call my people (oh wait I am my people) – have your people call me and I will set something up with someone here who matters.

  50. *ilb2001* October 18th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    His people are too young to dial the phone yet, Manny :-)


    Boom! Good one, Ilb.

  51. I hate when they change #’s. Confuses me – LOL
    Knee is doing fine, I’m walking already. I’m using lots of ice & lots of advil.
    I stopped taking the pain meds – really messed me up.
    Funny ain’t it – I finally get legal drugs & they make me crazy !
    This operation was a lot easier then the menescius (sp). go figure.

  52. Dubi = Voros 2.0? who came up with that brilliant comparison? ok don’t tell me… let me guess… Wicky! who else…

    P.S. where is ORR?

  53. czechthemout!!!! on


    I agree. I think MDZ has played pretty well so far. I just think his offensive game is overrated by many. He does not have a good enough shot nor does he have the elite stickhandling ability. Once again like many other drafts before, they drafted the wrong guy. They should have drafted John Carson who has the total package of offense and defense in his game. MDZ is at best a #4-5 defensemen. That’s it.

  54. At least with all that number switching there wouldnt have been too many Christensen jerseys to worry about!

  55. Doodie Machetto on

    I think the most important part in finding a new number was picking one that would be available in Connecticut.

  56. CCCP – we’ll beat the Flames. That team just doesn’t impress me outside Iginla, Giordano, and maybe Alex Tanguay. Bouwmeester is garbage, Babchuk is decent, and all of their other d-men aren’t really anything special.

    Plus on that ice, I remember us playing pretty well every time we’ve gone there and we should be able to use our speed against them (even though we haven’t shown much speed yet).

  57. hard to take that article seriously when he has bourque, kreider, thomas and hagelin ALL cracking next years starting line up……not even in a perfect world

  58. That reminds me – I have to get that number changed on my Christensen jersey!

    Sorry about the Meds Tony. That’s a real shame!

  59. iWicky (Leeloo Dallas mul-ti-pass) on

    I couldn’t remember, just new it was something you had for breakfast and knew it wasn’t a crepe!

    Yep, he falls den a lot lol!!


    They will call!!

  60. iWicky (Leeloo Dallas mul-ti-pass) on

    Yes, it’s dubi…started a couple of threads ago with some of the ridiculousness

  61. Jlone2Bubblehead on

    I feel like the season has yet to start for me. It could be because i havent been able to watch a complete game yet or maybe I don’t know the numbers/players yet. I’m just not as excited as I was last year.
    How many years in a row can they possibly put out the same exact team of one line of mercinaries and 3 lines of 3rd/4th liners. Torts can change lines as often as he pleases, but the parts he moves are not going to get him any different results. So here we sit, still waiting on kids to develop enough to fail at the next level.
    Last year it took some time for the team to develop their Identity. I never felt like they were out of any game. I dont have that feeling yet this year. I hope it comes soon. I like that their schedule is frontloaded with a bunch of away games, that just means more home games down the stretch. That should be quite the advantage later if we can become harder to play at home.

  62. I think it’s a stretch to put Del Zotto above a 3rd defensive pairing at this point. No size, mediocre shot, poor backskating and poor hockey sense

  63. I don’t think you said anything terribly inaccurate. The Rangers are 2/3 of a first line, 2/3 of a second line and a bunch of third and fourth line players. The Rangers defense is solid with Sauer and Staal in the lineup, but there’s still no actual point man on the roster.

    If you look at the draft picks since Sather accepted the GM job, you’ll see that the Rangers organization have become quite good at drafting 3rd (and occasionally 2nd) line forwards. There is name recognition because most of them play for the club but there isn’t a single superstar in the mix – in fact, you have to go back a few decades to find a Rangers draft pick who developed into a top line forward. I don’t know if it’s just that the Rangers don’t know how to scout talent or that they haven’t a clue how to develop it, but we’ve seen zero evidence that this organization is capable of producing the kind of offensive weapons it needs since Sather came to town.

  64. iWicky (Leeloo Dallas mul-ti-pass) on

    Yep, could be

    Me too

    Do we know our lineup for tonight yet?

    Mobile version so I can’t see woywitka—> or whackamole—>

  65. Manny:

    There’s something that seems to happen to defensemen when they put on a Rangers jersey. They suddenly become obsessed with skating around in circles behind the net. They also enjoy gliding into the defensive zone about 5′ behind attacking forwards. How many replays of goals scored on the Rangers have we seen with Ranger defensemen farther up the ice than Ranger forwards? It’s quite an interesting phenomenon.

  66. iWicky (Leeloo Dallas mul-ti-pass) on

    All sarcasm aside (for a post anyways), I still don’t quite understand the non keeping of mcilrath for the first few games before sending him back to juniors.

  67. I think the failed Del Zotto experiment will probably inform the way the Rangers handle prospects for the foreseeable future

  68. I think the failed Del Zotto experiment will probably inform the way the Rangers handle prospects for the foreseeable future


    Yup because they really screwed the pooch with Dubinsky, Callahan, Anisimov, Staal, Girardi and McDonagh.

  69. five of the guys you named were brought up before Del Zotto and McDonagh played three years of college hockey and half a year in the AHL before getting called up.

  70. “five of the guys you named were brought up before Del Zotto…”

    And I don’t think anybody has made the team straight out of juniors since, so which way of handling prospects is the exception here?

    “McDonagh played three years of college hockey and half a year in the AHL before getting called up.”

    Aren’t you making CT’s point for him here (acknowledging the first two years weren’t as Rangers property)?

  71. five of the guys you named were brought up before Del Zotto and McDonagh played three years of college hockey and half a year in the AHL before getting called up.


    And that was under the same front office that they have now.

    They handled Del Zotto pretty well his rookie year, limited even strength minutes against non-top line opponents and it also helped that Gaborik was on fire to start that year especially on the PP. He got bumped up in minutes the next year because they finally got rid of Redden’s contract and didn’t know what they had in Sauer/Eminger/McDonagh. Preferrably they’d ease him back into his role from his rookie year but with missing half of their top 4 from last season they don’t have that luxury.

    This is part of the youth movement that everyone craved for the past decade, there’s going to be some hiccups with some players.

  72. nah, they wrecked Del Zotto with how they handled him, mostly because he wasn’t ready to be handled at the NHL level at that point, even if he did perform fairly well. I’m sure Tortorella basically shoving him down the bench once didn’t help much either. the next year or so will be spent just trying to build the guy’s confidence up again, something they wouldn’t have to do if he’d spent a year playing in the AHL first.

  73. I think we all want a young Rangers team…the frustration stems from not having that one offensive centerpiece that comes from within the organization. Maybe Cherapanov was that guy? Having that one offensive starlet makes it a lot easier to deal with solid guys making the team as 2nd and 3rd liners.

  74. Come on. Confidence!? That is his only problem? Confidence!? How fragile are we assuming these guys are? So Del Zotto, if left to his own devices, and nurtured in a loving, unconditional way, then he would have developed on his own and it would have been faster than time honored and longstanding methods of forcing performance.

    How about the attitude you want a player to have which is “I was benched and I am embarrassed in front of my team so I will work extra hard and never make that mistake again.”

  75. hey Carp
    just might be that crease clearing
    wicky has been pining for (me too!)

    saw him at the Pearl Jam show at Alpine Valley
    looked in great shape, but i didn’t get a chance to do
    any running times with him. had to make it to photo pit.
    besides, i said “hey Chelios” and he looked like he was gonna punch me.
    end of story.

  76. Cherapanov was a gamble due to his status…if he came here and did well, that would have been a huge payoff. And Sather looks brilliant…much to Olga’s and Bob the Builder’s chagrin.

  77. Half the time, people on here have been adamant that MDZ is too cocky rather than lacking confidence.

    So, fair to surmise perhaps, that nobody has a clue about his mental state.

  78. LW3H,
    The tipoff for me was that he wasn’t following some of his fellow teammates on the twitter…no big deal? Or maybe very big deal? YES…all that… AND MORE!!

    He wasn’t following Prust at one point!! OUTRAGE!!

  79. Maybe he’s bi-polar?

    Not following people on that twitter thing is a big no-no. He better learn how to use social networking media or he will NEVER, and I mean never, be a decent defenseman.

  80. Looks like he is following Prust now, thank God. As well as someone called xxxBiBiJones. She must be a crease-clearing D-man or something.

  81. *LW* – Crease-Clearing is a feature that I suggested to Butt-Man magazine but they have yet to include it as a monthly feature.

  82. I did a quick search of xxxBiBiJones and it appears she does like to clear her crease. Unfortunately neither of those things are hockey related. It also appears that she suffers from an extreme lack of self-confidence. Maybe it’s contagious.

  83. It is another black mark against Del Zotto. His twitter account gives us a really vivid vision of what this kid is all about and he is apparently not about hockey. The beer and partying and -models- porn stars. It’s not a good thing. Maybe _that_ is why he rode the press box pine so often.

  84. mdz is an arrogant kid who doesnt devote all his time to hockey. the kid is all over twitter all over hockey shows on radio. i for one cant stand this kid and hope hes gone soon. oh and by the way his play on the ice sucks

  85. Mama>>>> I know!! Heard it from lots of people when I came back to Norway. Sorry about that… :)

    LW… You really have nothing else to do?? Have u checked the possibility of coming to the Sunderland-Fulham game? Would be cool to meet up again.

    On the trade Duby stuff.. Wait and see, if he’s not performing and it’s a (very) good deal, why not.

  86. lol he hasn’t tweeted in 2 months – I for one can’t stand whiners and wish they would be gone

  87. Really wouldn’t have an issue whether he does or not, eric, but for what it’s worth, he hasn’t tweeted since 16 August. And his last was to say he was stopping for a while to concentrate on training camp and the start of the season.

  88. Swede

    I play soccerpansyball myself on Saturdays, so wouldn’t be able to make it, sorry. Maybe next year, when the Rangers are due to play a 45-game exhibition game schedule in Scandinavia.

  89. I wish someone would moderate all the nonsense chatter in this blog. Most of the people here have something coherent to say but a lot of the comment posts is mindless chatter. Ouch my brain.

  90. sorry my bad didnt realize he stopped tweeting. still he has regressed from his rookie year to the point where he cant be out there but we have no choice now without staal and sauer.

  91. Manny

    thanks! i am about to make those shoes mine! :) love them!

    Hartford Whalerpack

    don’t be hating, son…kid…bro!

  92. Yea! Don’t Hate! I am just chilling out here talking about crease clearing in its many different forms. It distracts us (me) from what is a very important and difficult game tonight.

  93. Lets hope Kesler is rusty, the Sedins been up all night clearing (each others?) crease and that Luongo’s hungover.

  94. CCCP – I’m wondering if you might know: Why did the KHL teams change from cyrillic to the English alphabet for player names this season? It it because of their eyes on future expansion?

  95. As Glen Miller at SNYrangersblog said:

    “Any rational hockey observer will tell you the development of a defenseman is not a linear process.”

    I’ll add:
    it’s not necessarily a linear process for a player regardless of position, or for a developing team or any individual human being learning something new.
    Like no one has ever taken a backwards step or hit a temporary plateau while learning something?


  96. In that case I won’t write the chants we sang in the Swedish finals between Djurgarden and MoDo when the Sedins played there.


    And Carp, sorry if I was out of line….

  97. Manny -You took a fastball across the knees for strike one while you were daydreaming about BiBi’s DDs.

  98. That piece of carcello, Kris Letang suspended two games. The Shanahan has spoken, so it shall be written, so it shall be done!

  99. LW3H, that last comment of yours was golden…lol

    ” MDZ is a bust, ruined, a failed experiment, like every other 21-year-old who hasn’t become an All-Star.”


  100. LW- You are most credible, but knowing your sarcastic streak, you have me slightly suspicious.

  101. Who are we trading now? This is getting better and better….

    And I have to agree with Carp. This is what happens when gibberish becomes garbage. The regulars should know the difference between those two.

  102. On a different note, who is coming to the home opener? Barring major disaster at work, the plan for me to go. I’m already meeting with at least one of the ‘heads (he-he, no, I’m not telling you). Wouldn’t be a bad idea to meet an hour or two before the game and explore a few local places together. If interested, email me at ilb2001@nyp.org. I’ll try to organize it.

  103. I’m at the home opener, but I’m flying in that afternoon, so pre-game plans probably depend on how tired and/or hungry I am. And whether I’m on standby for the Blue Man Group.

  104. Good evening all! For sure I’m not going to be able to last for the whole game (sigh) but just quickly….

    LW, if you forget to get in touch while you’re here….!!! FB message me with your plans. Perhaps I’ll see you on opening night with ilb :)

    speaking of whom, stalked the Staten Island bonesheads today. ilb, lovely place. Also got to spend couple of hours catching up with TR at his work. You can’t imagine his surprise when I popped in the door!


  105. Ha, I’m yet to do that, mama! How’s TR? And was Leo surprised when you popped at my door?

  106. LW, still email me. Or hit me on FB. I’ll be happy to take care of the “hungry” part.

    No need to apologize, wick…Not sure it was you going over the line…..And it’s too bad there is no chance you can be at the opening too, bro..

  107. Chris F

    It’s amazing how Jagr doesn’t really get the credit he deserves for the role he played here. He had this second gear that when he turned it on, no-one could stop him.

    It’s a real shame he left the NHL as I would have loved to see him play some more with NY…

  108. ilb, I stayed away from the door, didn’t want to set off the Todt Hill alarm :) btw, the king of which countty is building the castle up the street? Yeesh!!

    TR is grand, hope to get him in city soon…..

  109. Yeah Carp, I too apologize if wicky was out of line… again.

    Mama -Are you working a McDonald’s now?? I saw a post that said something about you flippin’ burgers.

  110. Oleo – I’m wearing my Jags Rangers shirt now. He’s still one of my favorite players of all time.

    Sucks that he left the Rangers…and sucks that we have to face him in our division now…

    When he left the Rangers and NHL, I think he left at near top of his game.

    Still, when you watch him now, he dominates…you can’t take the puck from him. Once he sticks that aasen out and puts his back to you along the wall, it’s almost impossible to play him 1-on-1 and try to steal the puck…

  111. ddeb, No, got fired from that gig cause I kept forgetting to ask if people wanted fries with that. Duh, like people wouldn’t know right away!

    wicky, were you out of line again? What did I miss? Wait, don’t tell me…..

  112. I hear if we don’t win tonight Torts is going to get black listed at Hop Sing’s. NO DELIVERY!

  113. Ah, I knew it was you! You tried to trick Hop Sing! You are on our list; Elaine Benes! And now you are on our list; Ned Isakoff.

  114. Lloyd – “the guy (Callahan) finished 103rd in the league in scoring”

    Callahan was tied at #55 with Dany Heatley with .80 points per game. It can be argued that Cally only maintained that over 60 games, but if he did play a full 82 at the same PPG he would’ve been in the top 30 for points. Oh, and he does some other things too.

    Over 82 games .03 PPG equals about 2.5 points.

    Mike Richards .81
    Jeff Carter .82
    David Krejci .83
    Ryane Clowe .83
    A. Semin .83
    Lecavalier .83

  115. Since we are on that page- Brad Richards 1.06. The point is- sometimes we do not appreciate what we have.

  116. James – no joke – I saw a guy on the Subway today carrying a portable Defib unit and I thought “maybe he’s a Rangers fan.”

  117. Defibrillator won’t do carcillo. I’m worried about insufficient amount of beds in mental facilities in tri-state area, James G

  118. .333, that’s what the Stanley Cup champs points pct with be if they lose in regulation tonight.

    Just heard they were 0-21 in their last 21 PPs, fire Julien!!!!

  119. Hm, Panthers getting shutout so far in DC, wonder if their PP was really as good as last night or if the Bolts having yielded the most goals in the league had anything to do with it.

  120. Ok – didnt read for a day and now we are quoting the article from Bleacher Report? That guy is an idiot – who would trade Dubi for a 39 year old washed up D- man !!

    wait – does Sather still run the team? Gulp – I feel sick

  121. Chara just threw punches over a linesman to hit a Canes player. He was also maybe the third man in. Go Captain Chara!

  122. lmao Manny. Ilb- maybe a prozac hut right next to Ranch 1 at MSG for those who can’t get beds?

  123. Whenever I am depressed I reach for the Ranch 1. Best Grilled Chicken on Earth (according to their sign)

  124. I think it was a bit of both, CT. I saw the replays (just a few minutes ago) of the Panthers 4 PP goals and they had really good puck movement. Sure, the Bolts didn’t have terrific positioning and they were a little flat-footed but I will give some credit to the Panthers. Weiss is having a great year so far.

  125. I do think, however, that if Staal is really going to be out for a bit, we do need to shore up the D situation, especially with Sauer also injured. Sauer’s injury is I am sure a sep. shoulder, and depending upon the grade, is also going to be a problem for some time. We could really call up some help from Hartford rather than try to trade away –

    Did anyone see Valentenko play D this pre-season? Why not give him a shot – he seems fairly solid – cant be any worse than Emminger really – or Woywhatever

    How can the devs give a guy like Skora a try out and he plays top line minutes – I am sure there is someone out there who could fill in at the left wing and Torts can re-sort the lines. The Fourth line, in my estimation, is really important (regardless of what Torts says) and he needs them to ‘work’ – so, I say bring up a kid, put 3rd and 4th back together – and then start playing hockey –

  126. MDZ just tweeted from team meeting that Torts said the Rangers “won’t win this game 5-4”

  127. CTB- the way Roloson has been playing so far I wouldn’t be surprised if Yzerman gives up Stamkos for Biron straight up.

  128. Bob The Builder (Not the Bob You are thinking of) on

    Looking for the team to play close all year, but secure that elusive top tier draft pick via egregious losing. This team needs to be straggled tooth. Hangout with some friendly Deere tractors today…good times. Now readying for a Michelob.

  129. Latona, I want 20 lunch points for the major dogs I had at Gourmet Dogs on Staten Island today. O. M. G.

  130. I am very happy I did not trade Giroux. Unhappy that I didn’t activate Koivu (M) in my other league – he just got an assist!

  131. Bob The Builder (Not the Bob You are thinking of) on

    I would say that all the Deere, Terex and Caterpillar equipment in Northern American couldn’t help the straggle tooth needin’ power play of the New Yorker Rangers!

    Bob the Builder

  132. Mama,

    Maybe if you were respectful of my position as the final authority on all lunch happenings, you wouldn’t make demands. If you had simply stated your meal and the flavorgasm that ensued, I most definitely would have granted you a point or two. But no. You, in your infinite wisdom, laid down empty threats, and I do not concede for what I take umbrage to.

  133. Latona, oh my!!! Two dogs, one on toasted bun with chili, kraut and melted cheese. Other, split dogs on toasted Italian bun with baked beans and cheese…..flavorgasmic while overlooking NYC skyline…..

    That better? Now, sir, watch how you chastise mama…..that sounded dangerously like a newspaper!! :)

  134. Mama, you’re in SI and eating hot dogs? Geez….Let me know when you here next time, I’ll give you a frw real lunch suggestions.

  135. I don’t give after-the-fact and/or pity points. You should know how this establishment operates by now.

  136. ilb, meant to ask you about places, but on this job, I have to eat quick quick and can’t sit and order….so trust me, the dog place in St. George was tremendously tremendous….and so friendly! They let me use the bathroom! Another big plus on my job….:)

  137. Latona, I am deducting mama points from you for your unforgiving attitude…..and now I don’t even want lunch anymore!!!! :(

  138. Anyone have a link to the game. I’m at an MSGless hotet near Philly (excuse me while I wash my hands after saying that word)

  139. One fail doesn’t prohibit you from acquiring subsequent lunch points, Mama. Your choice. Life is all about choices. What are you gonna do?

  140. I think this might be the second time that Mama was stripped of all lunch points. That has to be a record. Are they being awarded to Sally yet again?

  141. Thanks, tomm, but my TV doesn’t have that option. There use to by so many options online that don’t exist anymore. Dang FBI!

  142. lets hope the boys win tonight. it would be a fantastic early b day present for my baby boy who is due to arrive tomorrow morning at 8 am. Lets go boys show my new baby boy how its done

  143. Manny,

    Why do you put type on my fingertips? I didn’t strip Mama of the lunch points. I only denied her lunch points for her supposed sojourn into the paradise of lunch earlier today. Do I need to remove your points for slander?

  144. Latona, I’m flying to Paris tomorrow for a four course meal with wine pairings…will report back in detail. Dang, I’ll miss Thursday’s game though…..may have to reconsider.

    Manny, I happily give all my points to Sally!

  145. Bob The Builder (Not the Bob You are thinking of) on

    I shall tell the boys in the yard of my Herculean efforts to amass lunch points, and from this point forward my tractor will have the word ‘Onerous’ on the side.

    Bob The Builder

  146. Latona…I had Cannellini beans..that, remarkably, were not in a can!!

    Bob The Builder, No need to sign every post like you are ghost writing for the president…lol

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