Guest blogger: Rob Kneeter


By Rob Kneeter, Brooklyn Born and Bred

Hockey can mean different things to many people. It could be something to watch as people love to see the fighting. It could be something to watch to pass the time. It can be something that is stumbled upon by someone just flipping the channels. It can be something that people will watch if there is no NBA next season….but to some…hockey has shaped their life… something that every true fan can relate to… Hockey isn’t just about the game, it’s about the experiences that derive from it. With every experience there are friends and family right next to you…creating the same memories.

March 19, 1994  – I as a 12 year old boy I moved to West 8th street in Brooklyn off of Ave P. I really had no idea what to expect. We pulled up with the moving van, emptied it out and I began to set up my new room.  What I heard next would change my life and influence me up to this very day. It was a bunch of kids playing hockey…

Now I’m sure every reader here can reflect on thefirst time they played in a meaningful hockey game. This was my first real game. What I had noticed of the kids playing hockey for an hour or so, was they had no goalie. Boy were they in luck … I just happened to have a brand new pair of Mylec goalie pads, a stick and a Jason hockey mask. My NY Rangers starter jacket would come in handy as a quality chest protector.

So with this, I made my way outside … to be the goalie. There watching me exit  my house and onto the street would be Tommy J, Rob D, Mike and Steve S, and Nick S. I was welcomed with open arms, as it turned out no one enjoyed being in between the plastic pipes.

Out of these friends I would later meet my close friends of today Anthony S and Ricky C. And all of us continued to play on the block. Ignoring the cops that would come to stop us and that parents that hated us … all in the name of lifting the West 8th Stanley Tin Foil Cup (5 out of 6 time champ writing here).

And of these friends I would continue to create memories of the team in blue that we love with all our broken hearts. Memories that I could go on and on about but that we all share. And I’m sure, with each of your memories you know exactly who you were with.

And that is the point of my rambling. This sport has created not only memories for us all … but friends that you could not picture your life without.  Life may take you in different directions, but those friends will always be a part of those memories.

I wasn’t sure what I was going to write when it became my turn. So I went from the heart as sometimes you just wish you can go back to certain moments. I left Brooklyn and moved to LA in 2008. From there I ended back Scottsdale and will be moving back to AZ. With each move I am leaving people I love behind, but they are never forgotten in my heart of my mind. So I am writing this to say thank you to all of them and here is hoping to still create more memories …

But I would like to end this by saying thank you to my friend Mike. I met Mike playing hockey that first day I moved to West 8th. Little did I know that a hockey friendship as kids would become brotherhood as adults. Mike, I would not be the man I am today if it wasn’t for you and your family. I am beyond proud to be able to stand next to you as your best man next year. Thank you.

On that note … LET’S GO RANGERS!

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  1. Nice write up, Rob. I know that neighborhood very well. My parents still live in the area. And you’re so right, everything crumbles but friends remain friends.

  2. What a delightful journey into a magic time for a young guy and his memories. Memories are the things that we retain to pass on to our own children
    ( whether they like it or not). You are so right when you refer to the friends that you make along the way. I relish the ones that I have made here because with the dearth of hockey news that comes forth from official sources I would get no information nor interesting personal stories from the Bonesters of this venue. I look forward daily to reading about their activities, and the way they all communicate with one another and the fun they have together. I’m an old guy who now lives down on the Space Coast of Florida and there is NOTHING pertaining to hockey down here, but I come from a hockey family from Connecticut, and I’ve followed the Rangers since the late 40’s ( with interruptions due to travel to other locales )but always returning eventually. Welcome aboard, and join the posse.

  3. Good morning everyone. Loved your post, Rob. There aren’t too many hockey fans out there. That is why I love this blog! Everybody here loves the game, as do I. I used to play when I was in high school. I also played goalie. I really ended up loving the position! I miss those days.

  4. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (The she/it on our D is sofa king SOFT!!!) on

    Morning ILB and all!!!

    Nice write up Rob, and thanks!!

    Carp and Ria,
    Thanks both of you re last thread!!

    “Off to work, later assens” (wink wink ILB)

  5. You are not old, Fran…You’re too passionate about life to be old. Besides, 26 isn’t old, now, is it?

    Wicky, you stay away from that girl, will ya…The way it’s going in your family you may actually start working :-)

    There is a little sneeze about the Islanders in NY Post, I’m not going to post it.

    Is everyone safe in DC and Va? I think Miami lives in DC…

  6. Congrats on the lil Wickster, Wicky. It’s important to get him or her to a game early, don’t forget. :)

    Great write up, Rob. Thanks for sharing.

    Morning, all. I am on vacation today. woo-hoo!

  7. Nice write up Rob.

    It reminded me of my younger hockey days. Roller hockey on a painted asphalt baseball field. Super 88’s as a puck. Loved my Koho and Jofa sticks.

  8. Good morning all! Nice write-up Rob. Though I must correct one point. I’ve never played a meaningful hockey game. That’s because I’ve never played a hockey game. I did pick up a stick once though :)

  9. Mama

    You’ve never even picked up a stick? Folks…you’ve got to help Mama out…someone round up a pristine stick and present it to her, with our best wishes, as you present her the Loyal Order of the Stick.

    And Mama…wield it in true Bonester fashion.


  10. Hey Fran, as a space Coast hockey fan, you are missing out on great hockey right here, at the Iceplex, many divisions, great travel teams, and of course a bar for after game relaxation, because the older I get the better I was!

  11. is Bob McKenzie the new Kevin Weekes? Now he’s twitting useless crap.

    “TSNBobMcKenzie My pick as top (fave) album/CD/whatever for last year (2010) was Eminem’s Recovery. 4 months to go but think I’ve found this year’s winner.”

    Eminem? REALLY? I thought McKenzie was more of a “hoodie and a blowfish” guy.

  12. Jim

    I’m familiar with the Ice Plex and it’s hockey program, and I haven’t had time to explore it as fully as I’d like, but I did not know about the league?? Which is that? I know they have a full program and even a senior league ( and I still have the old Hydes with the CCM blades, but I no longer skate…too much slips out of alignment when I try. I was here when they originally opened it up and was amazed that it had Olympic dimensions. I must get over there and do some more exploring……THANKS FOR THE REMINDER.

  13. C3, what was it you said yesterday? Oh yeah….kish mir in punim :)

    fran, I actually do have a stick, a lovely gift…but it’s truly best if I not wield it in any fashion :)

  14. Love You too Robbie. Def miss you when you move back to Cali, just make sure you save a spot for me next to the beach. Hopefully next yr is our yr, chance for the next step in each of our lives. As much as you thank me brother, I will always be the one more grateful to you. We moved to Cali together, but you are the one that offered me the support cuz i knew it then and i believe it now I would have not been able to do it on my own. Thanks forever brother. Heres Hoping we celebrate my wedding and the boys in BLUE raising the Cup in the same month!

  15. Nice, personal and touching story…as a reminder that pure feelings, gratefulness and real friendship, still exist in our cynical environment. Good for you, guys, a lot of people could envy…

  16. “Mir und tswanzig, fir und zibtzih”, – Manny, what kind of barbaric language are you speaking, butchered German?

  17. absolutely, ilb! no one will ever understand us!

    speaking of Yiddish … “Sholem Aleichem: Laughing in the Darkness” is playing at the Clearview Cinemas on First and 62nd right now. I saw it last night and absolutely loved it! I was born on Sholom Aleichem street in Odessa, Ukraine, and has been a fan of his ever since! I know we have some people on here who love to read (just as i do) Wonder if any of you heard of this man before?

    fran, have you ever heard or read any of Sholem Aleichem stories? just curious…

    here is a description of that documentary:

    “A riveting portrait of the great writer whose stories became the basis of the Broadway musical Fiddler on the Roof. Sholem Aleichem: Laughing in the Darkness tells the tale of the rebellious genius who created an entirely new literature. Plumbing the depths of a Jewish world locked in crisis and on the cusp of profound change, he captured that world with brilliant humor. Sholem Aleichem was not just a witness to the creation of a new modern Jewish identity, but one of the very men who forged it.”

    Joseph Dorman

  18. Jlone2Bubblehead on

    Rob, I enjoyed the post. thank you.

    Wicky! Congrats!!!

    I live in Virginia and didnt even feel the quake. I was driving…. No damage in my area that i am aware of. I hope all are well.

    I have to say, I truly miss watching hockey. On the bright side, my guitar playing has improved a great deal.

  19. Here is a bit of a better explanation (I will do my best): *gut tak im betage se vaer dis makhazor in beis hakneses trage*

    Yiddish (?????? yidish or ????? idish, literally “Jewish”) is a High German language of Ashkenazi Jewish origin, spoken throughout the world. It developed as a fusion of German dialects with Hebrew, Aramaic, Slavic languages and traces of Romance languages. It is written in the Hebrew alphabet.

    The language originated in the Ashkenazi culture that developed from about the 10th century in the Rhineland and then spread to Central and Eastern Europe and eventually to other continents. In the earliest surviving references to it, the language is called ???????????? (loshn-ashknez = “language of Ashkenaz”) and ????? (taytsh, a variant of tiutsch, the contemporary name for the language otherwise spoken in the region of origin, now called Middle High German). In common usage, the language is called ?????????? (mame-loshn, literally “mother tongue”), distinguishing it from Biblical Hebrew and Aramaic, which are collectively termed ????????? (loshn-koydesh, “holy tongue”). The term “Yiddish” did not become the most frequently used designation in the literature of the language until the 18th century.

    For a significant portion of its history, Yiddish was the primary spoken language of the Ashkenazi Jews and once spanned a broad dialect continuum from Western Yiddish to three major groups within Eastern Yiddish, namely Litvish, Poylish and Ukrainish. Eastern and Western Yiddish are most markedly distinguished by the extensive inclusion of words of Slavic origin in the Eastern dialects. While Western Yiddish has few remaining speakers, Eastern dialects remain in wide use.

    Yiddish is written and spoken in Orthodox Jewish communities around the world. It is a home language in most Hasidic communities, where it is the first language learned in childhood, used in schools and in many social settings.

    The first language of European Jews may have been Aramaic,[5] the vernacular of the Jews in Roman-era Palestine and ancient and early medieval Mesopotamia. The widespread use of Aramaic among the large non-Jewish Syrian trading population of the Roman provinces, including those in Europe, would have reinforced the use of Aramaic among Jews engaged in trade. In Roman times, many of the Jews living in Rome and Southern Italy appear to have been Greek-speakers, and this is reflected in some Ashkenazi personal names (e.g., Kalonymus). Much work needs to be done, though, to fully analyze the contributions of those languages to Yiddish.

    Nothing is known about the vernacular of the earliest Jews in Germany, but several theories have been put forward. It is generally accepted that it was likely to have contained elements from other languages of the Near East and Europe, absorbed through dispersion. Since many settlers came via France and Italy, it is also likely that the Romance-based Jewish languages of those regions were represented. Traces remain in the contemporary Yiddish vocabulary: for example, ?????? (bentshn, to bless), from the Latin benedicere; and the personal name Anshl, cognate to Angel or Angelo.[citation needed] Western Yiddish includes additional words of Latin derivation (but still very few): for example, orn (to pray), cf. Latin “orare.”

    Members of the young Ashkenazi community would have encountered the myriad dialects from which standard German was destined to emerge many centuries later. They would soon have been speaking their own versions of these German dialects, mixed with linguistic elements that they themselves brought into the region. These dialects would have adapted to the needs of the burgeoning Ashkenazi culture and may, as characterizes many such developments, have included the deliberate cultivation of linguistic differences to assert cultural autonomy. The Ashkenazi community also had its own geography, with a pattern of relationships among settlements that was somewhat independent of its non-Jewish neighbors. This led to the consolidation of Yiddish dialects, the borders of which did not coincide with the borders of German dialects.

    Apart from the obvious use of Hebrew words for specifically Jewish artifacts, it is very difficult to determine the extent to which the Yiddish spoken in any earlier period differed from the contemporary German. There is a rough consensus that by the 15th century Yiddish would have sounded distinctive to the average German ear, even when restricted to the Germanic component of its vocabulary.

    There has been frequent debate about the extent of the linguistic independence of Yiddish from the languages that it absorbed. Some commentary dismisses Yiddish as mere jargon, although in Yiddish that term is also used as a colloquial designation for the language without any pejorative connotation. There has been periodic assertion that Yiddish is a dialect of German, or even “just broken German, more of a linguistic mishmash than a true language”.[14] Even when recognized as an autonomous language, it has sometimes been referred to as Judeo-German, along the lines of other Jewish languages like Judeo-Persian or Judeo-French. A widely cited summary of attitudes in the 1930s was published by Max Weinreich, quoting a remark by an auditor of one of his lectures: ?? ??????? ??? ?? ???????? ??? ??? ?????? ??? ?????? ( a shprakh iz a dialekt mit an armey un flot—”A language is a dialect with an army and navy”, facsimile excerpt at [15] discussed in detail in a separate article). More recently, Prof. Paul Wexler, of Tel Aviv University in Israel, has proposed that Eastern Yiddish should be classified as a Slavic language, formed by the relexification of Judeo-Slavic dialects by Judeo-German.

    In the 2000 census, 178,945 people in the United States reported speaking Yiddish at home. Of these speakers, 113,515 lived in New York (63.43% of American Yiddish speakers); 18,220 in Florida (10.18%); 9,145 in New Jersey (5.11%); and 8,950 in California (5.00%). The remaining states with speaker populations larger than 1,000 are Pennsylvania (5,445), Ohio (1,925), Michigan (1,945), Massachusetts (2,380), Maryland (2,125), Illinois (3,510), Connecticut (1,710), and Arizona (1,055). The population is largely elderly: 72,885 of the speakers were older than 65, 66,815 were between 18 and 64, and only 39,245 were age 17 or lower.[29] In the six years since the 2000 census, the 2006 American Community Survey reflected an estimated 15 percent decline of people speaking Yiddish at home in the U.S. to 152,515.[30]

    There are a few predominantly Hasidic communities in the United States in which Yiddish remains the majority language. Kiryas Joel, New York is one such; in the 2000 census, nearly 90% of residents of Kiryas Joel reported speaking Yiddish at home.

  20. Sorry guys – that was just off the top of my head – those numbers might not be totally accurate anymore – also sorry that my hebrew keyboard didn’t function! Too bad!

  21. You meshugennah boneheads and your chutzpah out to confess the emmess about yourselves and your meshpuchah. You nebbishes and shlemiels, you schmutz schmatahs, and you machatunim need to transform into a schtarker and break all your bad schtickluchs. Otherwise, you’ll have to dance like you have spilkas and then get punched in the punam. The fressers will be served forshpeis (also nosh).

    That’s about all the Yiddish-gibberish I got. Schlepping out of the convo at this time.

  22. Does anybody have one of those coasters with Henrik Lundqvist’s Swedish Meatball recipe? It had been laying around my house forever, so I finally made them. And they’re absolutely delicious.

  23. Wait until I chime in, mama….I could be the only one who is actually fluent in Yiddish, thanks to my late grandma…Ready?

  24. Are you implying that I am physically incapable of running and ergo must roll, Mama? Is there a removal of lunch points in order?

  25. If she doesn’t see the error of her ways and plead for the points, I’ll have to do so.

  26. But before I resort to Yiddish/Gibberish, I have to tell you my earthquake story from yesterday. So I’m giving an introductory lecture to a new group of Cornell Med students (the new module starts every 6 weeks). Describing the clerkship, requirements, call schedule etc. We are sitting at the huge desk that can sit 20 people. One of the students looks very nervous. All of a sudden the desk starts shaking. I say to myself :” Geez, this guy must be really scared of this rotation to shake the table that much with his knees”. It stopped, I continue….All of sudden it starts shaking even more. I figured maybe I should back off a little bit before the guy has a breakdown. So I go:”Listen, folks, there is no need to be that scared, it’s generally considered to be the least intimidating rotation during your clerkship year”. It wasn’t until the Poland Spring water bottle almost fell on the floor when we realized it was a quake…We all had a good laugh after.

  27. That’s a great story, ilb. I am glad you got to embarrass your students!

    Can you tell us the same story but in Yiddish please?

  28. ilb,
    I have a wonderful little book for you – “Yiddish for dogs”. You had your grandma for that, so, your little cuties (Leo qualifies too, just with added toughness) will have you.

  29. I don’t know how to say “Geez” in Yiddish, Manny :-) Beside, people would understand bupkes…

  30. Also, for comprehensive Yiddish, I have as a gift from the guy, appropriately named Ben (Benya), who seems like he came directly from Babel’s “Odessa Stories”, a thick enough book with 101 Yiddish curses, from kind of long and sophisticated, to down on earth, vulgar and graphically descriptive (my favorite, of course). I’m sure, Avery would like them.

  31. How that basically artificial and limited language could create for historically short period of time so many intricate, farfetched curses, is beyond my comprehension. LOL.

  32. I met the owners at tennis camp. Nice guys. My wife ( her parents are Colombian) looked at the menu and said it looked very authentic. We had no idea there was a Colombian food in Park Slope. Every time we want Colombian food we have to schlep to Jackson Heights. We are going this Friday.

  33. You talking to me, Latona? You talking to me?! Bah! Nobody threatens mama, nobody! Besides, I’m the one who runs here :)

    OK, ilb, ready….set, go!

  34. In my infinite wisdom and kindness, I shall give you, the so-called “Blogmama,” one final chance to atone for your blaspheming. The puck is in your zone.

  35. so-called? SO-CALLED!

    I hereby declare you and Manny (traitor!) grivenes and kockin me a chinick!!!

  36. Oh my…Mama…you have brought this on yourself. King Latona is usually just and fair but swift to punish those who cross him. I fear for this reaction. He may stone you, he may put you in the stocks or he may just lock you in the dungeon for the rest of eternity. Fear, fear and more fear.

  37. Nah, Manny, I ain’t no king. More like an elected representative of Lunch, who is everyone’s true king.

    Anyway, Mama, you lose all your lunch points. They go to Sally. She now has 403, leading Jimbo by three, and third place ORR by 398.

  38. I demand a recall vote on the lunch rep! Sally can have my points, gladly. I’ve got trips coming up to Philly and Chicago… I will recoup all my points in 2 lunches and then some! Geno’s and Chessie’s, here I come!!!!

  39. Manny, you wrecked my hattie!

    ALERT: TO NEW BLOG VISITORS….I swear, hockey talk will begin soon. In the meantime, just enjoy. No other blog has any news either, and we’re way more fun. And you don’t have to know Yiddish or eat lunch.

  40. Many, I know! How do you know that!? I still refuse to go to Pat’s though. You know about his sign in the window? I am going to Geno’s in Joey’s honor. Been there only once, but holy hartnell!

  41. OH and yea…most of those guys are racist assens and xenophobic jackwagons. Not a fan of their politics! I actually like that Vegan joint. Mama’s!

  42. Fozzy and her posse showed it to me on my last visit. It’s totally racist and obnoxious. I don’t remember the exact words, and I don’t want to misquote, so I’m going to ask the Fozzies to be clear.

  43. holy hartnell, I just looked that up to see if you were joking, but you weren’t! Fozzy is a vegetarian, she must know it!

  44. Heathens rule! Fozzy is so kind, she brings me to Geno’s but orders the veggie….hmmmm. Where is Latona? Feeling bad for his comments toward mama I assume :)

  45. Hartell. I’ve been corrected and my apologies to Pat’s. It was Geno’s who had the sign. I feel awful…The sign says something like this (Thanks Fozzy)…””This is AMERICA, when ordering please SPEAK ENGLISH”

    And I went to Jim’s, on South Street. And it was wonderful. And Fozzy had the veg.

    Latona, for my meal mistake, you can subtract another 100 lunch points. I deserve it for my errors.

  46. Yea that’s a HORRIBLE sign. I can’t really express how angry people like that make me so I will just sit back and stew in anger.

  47. Makes me want to boudreau. It’s a family biz, I’m told, so the “tradition” will likely continue…but I hope not.

  48. ha, (shite, a wicky) Tony, I meant to tell Rob to look you up earlier…..nice of you to do so.

  49. C3, the only response I have to that video is to find those yahoos with a sharp pair of scissors and give them a Bobbit trim. Byfugliens!

  50. Anyone being held down and forced to read at gunpoint? Didn’t think so…..keep the insults to yourself then.

  51. made it home safely! thanks guys. ahh Yiddish, native tongue. probably the last thing id expect you guys to discuss lol. it’s ok summer’s almost over ;)

  52. Be honest Lev…ilb insists on visiting borders I urge him not to….carcillo happens and all….

  53. Actually, I’m worried about your trip, ilb. By all warning signs and symptoms, it will be almost inevitably very “hot” September in Israel in a south part in particular (regardless of UN decisions). Just be really careful. We need you, I’m serious.

  54. I know, we are brave, we do not panic and all that, but it’s better be safe than sorry (said nun puting condom on a candle).

  55. Thanks, guys….We will be careful. Mrs and I are monitoring the situation and will adjust the itinerary if need too while there. I’m crazy, but not stupid. I think…

  56. 4ever, thank you! ilb keeps telling me he won’t change plans and will go on with life, which I admire, but this is not like a transit strike in Paris and oh dear, I’ll have to cab or walk……oy vey.

  57. which borders are you likely to cross/be near ilb? this summer I crossed into Jordan twice, was quite nice. Since I was with Israelis, they provided us a Jordanian cop who escorted us around the country as Israelis arent permitted to enter without “supervision”. Such an option is also available for other nationals, but it’s really not dangerous at all in Jordan. I was in Eilat, border with Egypt, didnt cross into Egypt this year, but did so last year. Dont know if you plan to do that, I’d advise not to at the moment….

  58. Thanks, Lev….I wasn’t planning to cross into Egypt, but we do plan to scuba dive in Eilat. We are also planning to go to Jordan for a few trips. I think we’ll be fine.

  59. Thank you Lev :) Glad you had a good trip and are home safe. I’m sure most of Israel is safe, but I still worry about friends who travel there, given the circumstances.

  60. I’ve been to Eilat before…it’s amazing. We’ll be fine… Besides, I’m not planning to miss the upcoming season when we have such a promising team to watch :-). Nite, all!

  61. yes Eilat is wonderful. I scubadive every time Im there right across the last hotel near the border with Egypt, absolutely gorgeous fish in the sea. Jordan is fine! Go to Petra. Do you guys like to hike? I can recommend some routes we did in Jordan.

  62. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (The she/it on our D is sofa king SOFT!!!) on

    wholly crap say not day…autocorrect blows!!

    are you going somewhere? Sounds like you are going someplace dangerous the way people are talking…you aren’t going to a dodgers giants baseball game are you???

  63. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (The she/it on our D is sofa king SOFT!!!) on

    I happen to have a ben and jerrys everything but…and it is about to die!!

    how was the demo overall?

  64. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (The she/it on our D is sofa king SOFT!!!) on

    of the non mobile variety (sans cart)

  65. Wicky, I had that Ice Cream, it’s pretty damn good. I thought they should have replaced the chocolate covered almonds with something else. I like the big pieces of peanut butter cups, but I don’t like how small the heath bar chunks are. There should also be more white chocolate bars inside. I only had three or four in mine.

    To be honest, I wasn’t all that impressed with the demo. I was expecting something totally different from NHL11 demo, and what I played was basically the same as NHL10. Obviously there’s a few cool things, but overall, I’m not impressed.

    What’s a kinect?

  66. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (The she/it on our D is sofa king SOFT!!!) on

    too bad, but if you need a blu ray ps3 is the way to go, if not I would go new xbox!

  67. GayBox is for poosies!

    I played the new NHL12 demo… players control is a bit better and the hits feel more realistic, sort of…but other than that i cant see how this game is any different from the current version.

  68. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (The she/it on our D is sofa king SOFT!!!) on

    did either of you tossers get into a goalie fight?

  69. No, not yet. But, it’s probably not going to be a big deal. I remember them in NHL07.

    I’m so pissed they didn’t change the fighting. Same unrealistic fighting for three straight games now.

    I’ve decided to get my NHL12 for free. I’m not paying $60 for this! Friggin EA!

  70. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (The she/it on our D is sofa king SOFT!!!) on

    oh, ok. Well I have to be up in a few hours so night assens!

  71. Gosh when you folks start talking about Yiddish, and someone used the word Meshugganehl I had a throwback to my boyhood in New Haven, when one of my closest chums was a kid whose family were very strict Hebrew, and the thing I recall most about his mother was that she never smiled, and after every antic we pulled she’d walk away shaking her head and saying Meshugganeh. They’d come from Sevastopol, and apparently had had a bad experience with the Cossacks?

    BUt I warn all the non Hebrews here that on or around Passover time, do not ever let anyone give you a slice of the Horse Radish. Not if you ever want to be able to swallow again.

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