Big Day for Brandon Dubinsky

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So today, Brandon Dubinsky goes to arbitration … barring a last minute settlement on a new contract.

The educated guess is he gets around $4M per for one or two years (the Rangers choice, from my understanding) from the arbitration award.

And that he either goes through something like this again next summer, or is eligible to become an unrestricted free agent in 2013 (if the current free agency rules remain in place in the new CBA).

Since we’ve already beaten this to death, let’s just wait and see what happens today.

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Thanks for those who sent in topics they’d like to have discussed here in the dog days of summer. I think we’ll have plenty of slow days to get to all of them.

See youse later.

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  1. Good morning, boneheads!

    I have a feeling there will be a last minute announcement. Hope I’m right.

  2. And yes Carp, the team chooses between one or two year contracts. Or walks away.

  3. If he gets his $5 million…………

    $1 million per every ten points. Not bad!

  4. hilarious the rangers going in at 2.8. hes getting 4 mil. so is he a rfa again next summer or ufa

  5. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    what time is the hearing ?

    when does the ruling get publicized ?

    too bad it had to come down to this, greedy agents/players….greedy owners…but compared to MLB, NFL and NBA, the sport of hockey is in a much better state of being.

    MLB everyday says to me…”we need replay”…much like the NHL. (NFL too). All the major sports should look at how the NHL does instant replay and adopt a similar method.

  6. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    GOOD MORNING ‘HEADS!

    Good luck to Dubi in his hearing today.

    iDoodie, did he really say associate captain?? What a tool, his last name should be Black and Decker, or Craftsman!

  7. Lets not forget even if it goes to a 1 year deal for say $3.5m they can negotiate about an extension beyond this year throughout the rest of the offseason and into the season.
    The arbitrator might actually do us a favour in the Cally negotiations too, a low award to Dubi does not bode well for Cally’s new contract numbers.

  8. Eric, Dubinsky isn’t eligible to become an UFA until after 2012-2013 season. And it could be even longer if the new CBA extends UFA age. So he is bound to go through this again.

  9. I think the owners are looking to push the UFA age back a couple of years to prevent them having to give bigger contracts out to younger players (eg Stamkos deal), of course that could encourage more offer sheets, unless they are removed during CBA negotiations too.

  10. Too many chopper.
    Once these arb hearings are over, its going to get very boring waiting for the start of training camp and the trip to my side of the Atlantic ocean.

  11. czechthemout!!!! on

    Yesterday, I was upset that Dubi was supposedly asking for 5.2 million per year and that of course is crazy for his level of production. So today we hear that Dubi is askiing for 4.6 million per year a number that is easily negotiable to a little lower level say to about 4.2-4.4 per year on a four or five year deal a level he is easily deserving.

    However, as usual, Sather is once again bullying and strong arming someone who is one of the home grown and loyal players but is more than happy to over pay for a player who is approaching the downside of his career.
    And soon, he will do the same to Cally.

  12. Doodie Machetto on

    CTO, I think the 4.6 is based on a short term deal. I think he wants a higher number on the long term since it would eat some of his UFA years.

  13. Doodie Machetto on

    In other words, he thinks his value for this year is 4.6, but if he were to sign say, a four year deal, he thinks his value in years 2-4 would be more than that, so the average salary would go up accordingly.

  14. Doodie Machetto on

    Mister, I’m sure in actual contract negotiations, Sather has offered much more than 2.8 million. Everyone just lowballs the hell out of the submission to the arbitrator because 99% of the time they just split the difference.

  15. Wow, Rangers are really lowballing. I understand that the arbitrator tends to give an average of the two submittals, but this is ridiculous. Did Dubinsky not want a one-year deal? They probably could have settled for one year at $4 million on their own.

  16. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    On the bright side…the one year RFA arbitration award will result in a lower salary cap hit, will lower the Cally hit next week, and will keep the young RFA player hungry to continue to improve so that he can cash in when he is an UFA.

  17. Its business, not personal.

    $2.8 ensures the award will not be over $4m realistically.
    $3.7m is the midpoint and the arbitrators dont tend to stray more than a few percent from the midpoint historically.
    He’ll prob get $3.8m ish then hopefully they can move on and base Cally’s 5 year deal on those numbers and then try and negotiate a longer contract with Dubi’s agent over the course of the season.

  18. $2.8M is insulting to a youngster like Dubi. He isn’t a veteran yet that understands negotiations. That has to sting a bit.

  19. Doodie Machetto on

    If I’m not mistaken, if Dubinsky gets only a 1 year deal, he continues to be RFA next season, correct?

  20. manny i think we could get that deal done. pretty sure if they throw in hedman it could work. not sure it would be enough but its a good starting point

  21. Apparently the Rangers assistant GM isnt going to present anything other than a figure, they do not want to bad mouth the player in order to reduce the cap hit – good move by the Rangers brass.

  22. Manny – he has an agent who should be advising him about the business aspects of things, this is not some petulant schoolboy in front of the headmaster, its a millionaire sportsman, his agent and the team’s management discussing how many millions he should get paid.

  23. This kid is going to “negotiate” his way right out of NY one of these days. He better start showing some more consistancy if he is looking for a long term deal!

  24. That’s good Grabby. GET I DONE.

    UK – I agree with you – but Dubi also has an agent who wants to make max money for himself out of the deal. It’s business on BOTH sides of the coin. Everyone here seems to say “it’s just business” for the Rangers and then blame Dubi. Well it’s just business for him and his agent also.

  25. Mister Delaware on

    “Mister, I’m sure in actual contract negotiations, Sather has offered much more than 2.8 million. Everyone just lowballs the hell out of the submission to the arbitrator because 99% of the time they just split the difference.”

    Absolutely. But bring each side in halfway to the $3.7MM middle ground, Dubinsky to $4.15MM and the Rangers to $3.25MM and is anyone going to say the Rangers are being more realistic there? After the trashing Dubinsky got for “not being loyal” yesterday, I’m pretty sure the submissions make it clear which side wasn’t realistic or in good faith.

  26. Doodie –

    I always thought that the arbitrator did not really split the difference, but in fact could agree in sum with the arguement pressed by the agent and award accordingly. Do you see that happening here with Dubi? I ask because 4.6 would not be for a short term, right?

  27. Doodie Machetto on

    Coach, the arbitrator could agree in whole with one party, yes. But in practice, 99% of the time, they just split it down the middle, or come very close thereto.

    And yes, 4.6 would be for a short term, as the maximum contract length Dubinsky can get out of this arbitration is 2 years, which would be at the Rangers’ discretion. I have to imagine they will do only 1 year though, so that next summer they can try and iron out an extension.

  28. Its business for both sides. I wouldnt trash Dubi for trying to make as much as he can, who can blame the guy – its not his job to manage the cap.

    From a fan’s perspective you want the guy to take less so that it leaves the possibility of using that cash at the deadline to make your team more playoff-ready or so you can buy another free agent.

  29. I still don’t understand how they didn’t reach a 3-4 year deal worth 4.5M per… I like the idea of opting for the one year deal and making him an RFA next year and going through the process again. And then doing it the next year. And then doing it the next year. Guy’s gonna have more one-year deals than Teemu Selanne.

  30. Doodie Machetto on

    “I still don’t understand how they didn’t reach a 3-4 year deal worth 4.5M per”

    Dubinsky probably wants more money than that for a long term deal.

    Also, they will only go through this one more time, at most. If he gets a 1 year deal this season and next, he will be UFA at the end of next season, and almost certainly will test the market after being jerked around on three consecutive contracts from the Rangers.

  31. From the crowd that tends to think that Dubi is the bad guy in what amounts to a pretty standard negotiation, I’ve seen the word consistency used over and over? Might I ask, consistency in what? In points? A player that will most likely hit 60 points next season is worth what Dubi is asking for. If you’re expecting him to be an 80 point player, then expect the price tag to go up. In recent seasons there tends to be about 15-20 players in the entire NHL that are 80+ point guys. You’ve seen what the cost to get those players is in the form Gaborik, Richards, Kovalchuk and whatever contract Parise is going to get. If Dubi was asking for that type of money then he’d be greedy or have an inflated sense of worth. That however is not the case here.

  32. czechthemout!!!! on

    Doodie

    How do you know what he was asking for in along term deal? The only thing we read about yesterday was what LB reported . For all we know, he was blshiti…ng. the only thing we have as hard facts are Dubi’s submission which is not unreasonable based on today’s market. And we have Sather’s, which is an insult. So some people on here may say it’s not personal and you would be right if you are Dubi’s side. However, 2.8 million is a slap in the face!

  33. Doodie Machetto on

    CTO, I can’t know for sure, but I mean, logically it makes sense. If you are going to buy a player’s first couple of years of UFA, the player is going to make you pay for them.

    I have a very hard time believing that if Dubinsky wanted a long-term deal at 4.6 that this would have gone to arbitration.

  34. Doodie Machetto on

    “Might I ask, consistency in what? ”

    Effort. I don’t expect him to be a point per game player but I expect him to skate hard and be involved in every game. He isn’t.

    Callahan is maximum effort of every shift of every game. You always notice him when he is on the ice. The problem is he isn’t always on the ice.

  35. 2.8 million is insulting? excuse me but he hasnt proved anything yet. all of you seem to love him because he is “home grown”. it’s obvious he has a lot of talent. he hasnt done anything yet however to make 2.8 million insulting however. 2.8 million would be “insulting” to a guy like Stamkos. a guy like Ryan. a guy like Kopitar. and yes Id take Cally over Duby any day of the week.

  36. The reason the Rangers dont want to sign a long term deal is b.c of the expiring CBA. Rumor has it salaries are going down so it makes more sense to give him a long term deal during the next CBA instead of this one.

  37. excuse the second “however”. i do think 2.8 million is low for him, but no where along the lines of insulting. 3.5-4 id be fine with. a penny over 4 and it just wont be justifiable.

  38. If they cant reach a compromise on about $4.5 for 5 years somehow it makes you wonder if Brooks speculation that Dubi’s (agent) is looking for $5.25 or more for 5+ years is true.
    What time is the hearing?

  39. 5 million is just absurd. that’s starting to border on the line of elite player contracts. Dubinsky is no where close to elite right now. potential, yes, maybe. i dont see him getting that eventual $7+ million contract, i think he tops out at around $5 million in his next big deal.

  40. Dubi’s agent is not good at his job. The fact that dubi held out last year was way too early in his career.

  41. The effort argument again? How many times was he benched because of a perceived lack of effort? I’m not saying he wasn’t, but do you honestly think that the Rangers would use “effort” as part of their argument against Dubinsky? Would he be used in situations such as the PK and late game/last minute scenarios if the coaching staff thought he lacked effort?

  42. yes consistancy in points – goals. you want to get paid like a top level guy you cannot go 20 games without a goal.

  43. The Rangers are playing this the right way. It is not in the best interest of the team to sign him long term right now because of the impending CBA and the fact that Dubinsky has much more leverage than he will next season.

    With the addition of Richards and the probable revival of Gaborik, Dubinsky is not going to be the leading scorer and most productive player.

    Dubi is going to get a pretty decent award today, somewhere along the lines of 4.2 mil…

  44. JUDGMENT DAY IS NEAR! REPENT!

    anyway….

    Did Sather really offer $2.8 to Dubi? Only a million more than what Boyle makes? Sure… Dubinsky is the devil!

  45. Dubi is being a big baby (as usual). I know the Rangers offered him a long term deal….he would rather have bad blood and is trying to get every cent he can as fast as he can in arbitration…

    His loyalty to the Rangers, at this point, is questionable, at best…he’s already been through this process and there’s a possibility of a third time!!!

    His effort level night in and night out is not consistent…it’s questionable, at best…

    His talent is evident, but his production is mediore for a top 6 player…

  46. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    Morning ILB and all!!

    nice bag lady this morning ILB!!

    Speaking of which, where is mama?

    Show of hands how many people here are going to be pissed off and why if dubi gets a 3.4 mil contract per year for 2 years??

  47. He’s not asking to get paid like a top level guy, he’s asking to get paid like a 2nd tier guy.

  48. I would consider dubi to be somewhere in the 3 mill range. So if dubi is going to inflate his contract worth, sather might as well diminish it.

  49. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    I remember one game that dubi sat at center ice eating 3 hot dogs and drinking a cold one…. All while the play was going on around him…that is the kind if effort we don’t need.

  50. Slats only came in at $2.8m because it is a one yr deal…it’s not a low-ball offer….it’s a huge raise…

  51. NYR_FAN,

    Dubi was about 70th in the league in points amongst forwards last year. If we’re going on the idea that top 6 players would amount to the top 180 forwards in the league (30 teams, 6 forwards). So 70th in the league is well within top 6 forward production.

  52. You can’t harp on a guy for trying to get his worth. I’m frankly surprised they didn’t get this deal done already. You can harp on the guy for consistency all you want, but theres 29 other teams in the league that would love to have this guy. Anyone who plays through stress fractures in their leg mid season and comes back from it early is exactly the type of player I’d want on my team.

    I think he’s completely worth 4.2/season over 4 years. If his production continues trending upwards that’s a steal in 2 years. And people shouldn’t base his salary on just point production alone. The intangibles he brings are crazy. He blocks shots, hits, is versitile (LW/C), kills penalties, and helps shut down the other teams top lines night in and night out while still putting up great 2nd line production. He also brings a level of passion that few players do, and can spark a team in one shift. I hope this works out for the best.

  53. Mister Delaware on

    “I remember one game that dubi sat at center ice eating 3 hot dogs and drinking a cold one…. All while the play was going on around him…that is the kind if effort we don’t need.”

    This is so stupid, the pinnacle of the anti-Dubinsky crusade. You’re so, so, so wrong.

    (It was 2 hot dogs and 2 beers, not 3 hot dogs and 1 beer.)

  54. I would consider dubi to be somewhere in the 3 mill range. So if dubi is going to inflate his contract worth, sather might as well diminish it.

    ***

    That’s basically the whole point of arbitration.

  55. I love people saying they “know” what’s going on behind the scenes. NO ONE KNOWS! As much as I enjoy reading LB sometimes, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t know either.

  56. Mister Delaware on

    “Anyone who plays through stress fractures in their leg mid season and comes back from it early is exactly the type of player I’d want on my team.”

    Another thing I don’t get. If Callahan or Prust did this half the posters here would need new keyboards.

  57. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    CT – I am, as usual, right on board with your thoughts…

    Nyr fan – you must try some Dream Queen..OMG !!!!!

  58. Dart,

    Totally agree. But even if you base his salary mostly on his stats, it’s completely justified. The problem would be paying $7M for his production, that would be a Drury-like deal.

  59. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    CCCP
    who the hell said that wasn’t too much for OPG????

  60. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    MD – you are correct…2 dogs and 2 beers….if dubi wants big money, he needs to emulate the hard working ethic of ec…. Now that guy gives it his all every shift every game.

  61. Ct that was my answer to anyone who didn’t know that.

    And Danny G had the most blocked shots for a defensemen last year if im not mistaken, and he works well as a first pair defensemen with Staal. I can’t count points with Girardi because he is not an offensive def.

    He might be a bit overpaid but just as valuble as dubi it think…In a defensive way.

  62. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    NYR
    that is a significant raise, gotta love a COLA!

  63. “Anyone who plays through stress fractures in their leg mid season and comes back from it early is exactly the type of player I’d want on my team.”

    Another thing I don’t get. If Callahan or Prust did this half the posters here would need new keyboards.

    ————————

    EXACTLY! But since this is Dubinsky (just another Europansy!) people on here just go about their business and talk about his so called “lack of effort”

  64. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Noah – my sources tell me that Eddie shore is still dead……did your client ever take the plea deal that we discussed months ago?

  65. RealKyper Nick Kypreos
    #NHL new. #Rangers Brandon Dubinsky has settled with the club on a 4 year deal believed to be worth 16.8M. His AAV for cap is 4.2M

  66. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    MD
    maybe it is because those guys actually do give their all every shift!

    I love the fact that we want guys to get as reasonably low a cap hit as possible for the overall betterment of our cap situation…UNLESS IT IS A PLAYER WE ARE INFATUATED WITH!!!

    lets face the facts folks, dubi is no brich

  67. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    I love how there is an “anti-dubi” camp now…LMFAO!!!

  68. RealKyper Nick Kypreos
    #NHL new. #Rangers Brandon Dubinsky has settled with the club on a 4 year deal believed to be worth 16.8M. His AAV for cap is 4.2M

  69. again…

    RealKyper Nick Kypreos

    #NHL new. #Rangers Brandon Dubinsky has settled with the club on a 4 year deal believed to be worth 16.8M. His AAV for cap is 4.2M

  70. He is a top 6 forward not a top 3. I like Dubinsky but he is not worthy of a $4.5 million a year deal…YET

  71. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    SO, if I liked drury as a player, but not at his salary, am I in the “anti-drury” camp???

  72. N,CountryNYRFan on

    if that deal is true I can live with that. At least we’ll have him locked up for more than a year or two.

  73. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    Is that an arb result or non hearing result??

  74. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    Eddie x 3
    never touched the stuff, but I got ya!!!

    Thank you
    dore33

  75. N,CountryNYRFan on

    jessespector RT @WharnsCBCSPORTS: Dubinsky avoids arb w/ NYR. Agrees to 4 yr deal: $3.75M $3.75M $4.65 $4.65M. AAV: 4.2M

  76. EJHradek_NHL NYR news. RT @WharnsCBCSPORTS: *Dubinsky avoids arb* (FOR WICKY, YOU’RE WELCOME) w/ NYR. Agrees to 4 yr deal, breakdown is: $3.75M $3.75M $4.65M $4.65M. AAV: 4.2M

  77. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    ctb
    thanks

    A bit too high IMHO, but way more reasonable than 5 mil per. I think 3.5 to 3.8 would have been perfect, but what do I know…

  78. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    CT – ja is the Swedish reggae phrase.

    Wicky – I prefer drinking paint, eating paste and crayons….

  79. wicky,

    He got 3.8 for his remaining RFA years and more for his first 2 UFA years. It’s a good deal.

  80. wicky

    there really is no practical difference between 3.75 and 4.2. An extra 600K is really meaningless…

  81. $4.2 a year. seems fair to me.

    sather using his brain again. dubi is locked up till 29……

  82. good call oleo. Not a bad signing imo. last 2 years are a bit high, but who knows he might get better by then.

  83. Doodie Machetto on

    oleo, we were yet again nearly dead on in our predictions (you were exactly on).

  84. “I have a feeling there will be a last minute announcement. Hope I?m right.”

    Great call, ilb…

  85. I’m happy with this, guys. I think it’s a fair price… a little bit higher than I thought he deserved, but fair nonetheless.

    I’m glad that this didn’t go to arbitration. It makes me feel better about the holdout situation. Now lets get Cally done.

  86. Doodie Machetto on

    I’m expecting 4.4-4.5 for Callahan. After all, he is only 1 year away from UFA, unlike Dubinsky’s 2.

  87. “Four more years of no effort! RIGHT?!”

    I hope not!!! :P He doesn’t have a NMC or NTC so hopefully he plays to the level we all know he can!!!

  88. That train won’t ever leave the station CCCP. Or it will work, then not work, then work. Totally inconsistent.

    Now we can hate on Calla-hand me the money.

  89. Doodie Machetto on

    CCCP, at no point did I say I didn’t want Dubinsky. I just didn’t see him as a 5 million plus player.

    As for the effort, you are lying to yourself if you say that there weren’t a few games last season where he was just TOTALLY invisible, or only visible when he was just the goat on a goal (or two) against.

  90. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    thanks everyone for the update (especially you CCCP).

    So i guess my numbers were off for AAV,though…meh

    can’t wait to see eminger get 1.7 to 1.8 per season

  91. Doodie Machetto on

    Whoah! huge news! Doc Emerick is leaving the Devils to do NBC/Versus exclusively.

  92. Doodie Machetto on

    Eddie, I’m guessing that five of the numbers come in between 1-56, and one of them is between 1-46.

  93. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    too bad chico isn’t going to the PBR full time

  94. Doodie Machetto on

    Huge coincidence: my friend (Devils fan) and I were talking about replacements for Doc and Sam yesterday.

    Lord I hope we get Howie Rose or Kenny Albert and not John Giannone.

  95. I know some of you don’t like Doc, but I think he is the best in the business and I now will likely never watch a Devils broadcast (unless I want to hear Chico cry).

  96. Howie deserves to come home. He’s suffered enough with the Isles and the Mets.

  97. Doodie Machetto on

    “The Devils fanbase just got cut in half.”

    Yup. Attendance was just lowered by 20%. The only other people there are Dano, Chico, the camera man, and Cangiolosi.

  98. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    the devils broadcast booth was the opposite of its head coaching position!

  99. I am ever so glad to come back to my office to read that.

    Good job everybody involved.

    Now sign Captain Callahan

  100. I actually don’t mind Doc. He’s better than most opposing teams crew and he’s much better than anybody on VS/NBC.

  101. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    I think cally deserves a bit more than dubi

  102. Doodie Machetto on

    Noah, I will say this for Emerick: he is the best prepared play-by-play announcer around.

    I think only Pierre McGuire is better prepared in the entire NHL broadcasting business. Dude seriously could tell you what guys ate for breakfast when they were 8 years old. Doesn’t mean he knows carcillo about hockey, but just shows he is a true professional at what he does.

    Likewise goes for Emerick. True professional, even if I don’t like the way he calls a game, except when I pretend it’s old-time radio and I expect the game to be followed by a program about “coppers” and a lot of guys saying “mrah, see!”

  103. Doodie Machetto on

    Eddie, don’t play and you will have at least $1 more than 99.9999999% of people that do.

  104. I agree Wicky- Dubi’s contract should be the floor for Capt. Callahan’s. Only concern is the injury proneness of Mr. Callahan.

  105. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Can you imagine the ugly mug on the mug of a child if holik and dano had a love baby?

  106. Doodie Machetto on

    Callahan will be a little more expensive because they are buying less RFA and more UFA.

  107. I wonder if this means two Versus games per week for Doc. It definitely improves their playoff coverage. Number two man Dave Strader might be working there permanently, too, as he has left the Coyotes.

  108. Funny take on Dubi’s deal on BSB:

    Glen: Brandon, your nickname is Dubi, you have to take a 4.20 cap hit. It will be just perfect. How can you say no to that.
    Brandon: I don’t know…
    Brandon’s Agent (into Dubi’s ear): No, he is right. It’s so clever, you can’t turn it down

  109. Doodie

    I am not saying that there weren’t a few games last season where Dubi wasn’t playing well or as expected by the perfectionists Rangers fans. But you’d be lying to yourself as well if you say that there weren’t A LOT more games where he was the player we all want him to be. Its hard to give your all every night… Look how many times Hank was pulled last year, and we all consider him to be the best player on the team. And how many times was Gaborik benched? Do you know what i mean?

  110. Doodie Machetto on

    Eddie, imagine if that child had a child with the love-child of Mike Ricci and Rod Brind’Amour.

  111. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    i’d still take a flyer on dupont, for a low price…

  112. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    no offence CCCP, but you can not honestly say the coach is “even handed or fair” with his discipline up and down the bench!

  113. eddie eddie eddie on

    doodie – the lotto is a “stupid” tax…..that said, my chances of winning are nearly 2-1

  114. Good deal in my opinion. Now bring on Cally, will it be more because of the prospective C or less because he’s more injury prone and scored a few less?
    If its much more than $4.3m then it will make it a squeeze to get Eminger as #7 d-man, on the basis that i think Erixon will make the team this year.

  115. Doodie Machetto on

    “But you’d be lying to yourself as well if you say that there weren’t A LOT more games where he was the player we all want him to be.”

    Absolutely. I’d say he gave what I wanted in 60 of his 77 games. That’s a really good ratio. It certainly beats Gaborik and Lundqvist.

    And don’t think for a second I am not all over Gaborik and Lundqvist for lack of consistent effort. I am. Especially Gaborik. But if Lundqvist has an off night here or there, I can’t fault him as much since every other night he is literally carrying the team.

    But when you only score 54 points, that effort has to be there 100% of the time because you aren’t making all of your money for those points, it’s for everything else you bring to the table, and you have to bring THAT to the table every night, like Callahan.

  116. Doodie Machetto on

    “will it be more because of the prospective C or less because he’s more injury prone and scored a few less”

    It will be more because he is one year closer to UFA than Dubi was.

  117. czechthemout!!!! on

    Good deal for all involved. Sather deserves some credit here as well as Dubi for not going to arbitration.
    Cally should get a decent contract as well.

  118. Can somebody realistically explain why Dubi gets bashed so much and Callahan is on a pedestal? Don’t get me wrong I love Callahan and agree he deserves to be the next captain. But if you actually look at the careers to date, they are very similar in goals and points per game, not to mention hot and cold streaks. And I agree Callahan plays hard every shift, but just because he throws his body around every shift when he is struggling doesn’t mean he cares any more then Dubinsky. Both these guys have proven to be the future of the team, both seem to care just as much about winning, both stick up for their teammates, both are verbal on and off the ice, and both seem to care about the organization. Callahan is the heart and soul guy who throws hits with every ounce he has – but nobody on the team protects the puck along the boards like Dubinsky – NOBODY. They each have strengths that they bring to the team, but for some reason Callahan is a God while Dubi is always looked at as the selfish bad guy. Dubi carried the team for most of last year, and when he struggled it sounds like he was playing injured. How about you guys stop picking apart our second “heart and soul” guy, and if you feel the need for whatever reason to bash someone, how about the guys that actually deserve some criticism. Gaborick pretty much did nothing most of the year while actually making the money to carry the team – that is what what you pay superstars to do. Yet some of you guys bash Dubinsky as if HE was our star player making 7 mil. It sounds like Dubi is looking for just a little more then half what Gabby is making – yet last season Dubi pretty much WAS our star player, not Gaborik. If you guys were comparing Callahan to someone like Hollweg I’d get it, but Dubinsky – give me a break. Give Dubi just under what Callahan gets and sign them both for 4-5 years, then give Cally the “C” and Dubi an “A” – because they BOTH deserve it.

  119. wicky

    no i don’t think Torts was even handed or fair, as you said. But we were watching the game on TV and he was watching the game from the bench. Arguing with his decisions is hard.

    still… Dubinsky didnt get benched but Gaborik did.

  120. so the cap hit is $3.75 million next year? i can live with that. really hope he continues to “consistently improve” as so many of you are saying he has, or else that $4.65 million cap hit will not be justified…especially if the cap decreases.

  121. eddie eddie eddie on

    doodie – take that love child of that love child, M or F, and put dubi’s porn stache on it …and you are talking utter beauty….

  122. I am so happy my favorite home grown player (Dubi) has signed a 4 year deal. I can’t believe I’m saying this but good job slats.

  123. It’s a 4.2 cap hit Lev.

    And if they’re decreasing the cap I’d imagine they want salary rollbacks too.

  124. Absolutely. I’d say he gave what I wanted in 60 of his 77 games.

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    i think more than half of those 17 games Dubinsky played with a bad leg. People shouldn’t be too hard on him for that.

  125. eddie eddie eddie on

    27NYR94 – i agree completely…but you are off on one point…the HEART and SOUL of the NYR is ec…lower case for emphasis

  126. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (A cheapshot artist and wiseassen...) on

    I think gabby got his fair share of criticism over the season and if not for the brich signing, a lot more people here would be calling for his head so to speak.

    The reason dubi is perceived selfish by some here is his hold out. Like it or not, he did it and so the selfish “label” by some, warranted or not. There is not a person here that can honestly say that dubi works harder than cally, NO WAY! Therefore, cally is considered more of a heart and soul guy than dubi because he brings it on a more consistent basis.

    What makes it worse are all the “dubi is the second coming” crowd that see zero fault in anything he does. Perhaps if that crowd was a bit more realistic, calling dubi what he is, a very good player with a hell of a lot of potential, is inconsistent, and makes some questionable “negotiating” decisions. There might not be as much dissent among the posters here.

    So people that see zero fault in dubi are griping because some see zero fault in cally’s game?? REALLY??

    27nyr94
    so is dubi the star in the making or not? if he is, then he deserves some criticism and needs to step it up, if he isn’t….well, guess I don’t understand your post…

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