Fore right! I’m off today

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Hope nothing major happens with your heroes today, because on the Saturday before the third Sunday every July we have our family golf outing. Ten or 11 foursomes of Carp relatives in one place at one time, God help anybody in the neighborhood.

So, like Pauly in the Godfather, you won’t be seeing me no more today. Or at least until sometime tonight, after our apres-golf dinner ends. This also means I’m going to miss the Open Championship today. Byfuglien.

If the Rangers make any noise of any kind, youse will have to get your info from the Twitter Widget and bring it back to the comments section, as usual. You know the drill.

PS, my dad played a round with Vinny Prospal last week. Didn’t get any good info because my dad really didn’t know who he was. He told me today, “I played with a hockey player. I can’t remember his name. He’s a free agent.”

So I said, was his name Vinny? And then it clicked in.

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  1. onecupin72yearsandcounting on

    Carp , Re : Prospal , on and off the ice he makes a lasting impression.

    Have a fun day..!

  2. 4generations 4 cups on

    Have a great day, Carp, hope the family and yourself have a wonderful time, its a really nice day out :)

    I cant talk about Prospal. I really like him, just doesnt satisfy a need, too much emotional attachment…lol

  3. cw – I’d like to take a stab, but I really don’t know where to start. Carp was saying the other day he doesn’t think Boyle will be fourth line, and I’m starting to think he’s right. Stepan is the weakest at faceoffs, so let’s move him over to wing. Rupp, as has been mentioned, is 50 percent in the circle. Let’s move him to center:

    Stepan-Richards-Gaborik
    Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
    Fedotenko-Boyle-Prust
    Avery-Rupp-Wolski/Weise

    Bench-Christensen

    Staal-Girardi
    Sauer-McDonagh
    Erixon-???

    Bench: (veteran), Valentenko

    I’d like to see Zuccarello on the team, but I have a feeling he’s going to end up in Hartford. And if I were to have my druthers, this is how the lineup would work:

    Wolski-Richards-Gaborik
    Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
    Avery-Stepan-Zuccarello
    Fedotenko-Boyle-Prust

    Bench: Rupp, Weise

    Role four lines, even time. Insert Rupp for Fedotenko, then move him up to third for Avery or Zuccarello against highly physical teams.

    Staal-Girardi
    Sauer-McDonagh
    Erixon-???

    Bench: Valentenko

    Fill the question marks by signing Campoli to a one-year deal, since the Hawks plan to part with him after arbitration in August. If that doesn’t work, McCabe for a one-year deal on the cheap.

    I do think something’s bound to happen once Dubinsky and Callahan are signed. Christensen, Wolski and Avery all seem to be odd pieces in the mix, especially with Weise, Zuccarello and Hagelin knocking on the door. My guess is at least two of those six players will be gone before the season starts.

  4. “”LW3H July 16th, 2011 at 4:57 am

    You see Rod, strangely enough I’m not connected enough to have figured out that Dallas are apparently the only team in the league that needs a center.
    So the Rangers are kicking the tires on acquiring Loui Eriksson or Jamie Benn, I presume? Leaving us with an exciting game of “Who (Dallas again) needs a LW?” to look forward to soon…””

    Haha, are you connected to your brain? I love playing along with this stuff, seeing who they might be after, etc. You guys obviously aren’t, and prefer to catch attitudes. So fine.

    No more games, no more nothing. You were just getting close too!

  5. On the contrary, Rodney. I’m sure many of us are interested in gaining some reliable insight into the Rangers’ thoughts and having this articulated to us in a clear, informative manner.

    Do you have any suggestions as to where we might find this?

  6. LW,

    Hahaha. Not here anymore!!!

    Some of the clowns here just can’t their heads around the fact that I already know this stuff, I was trying to be nice and make friends and share it and talk about it as best I could.

    But to get insulted for my troubles? By the same people over & over whom I never see contribute ANYTHING here?

    And (see4everrager, above) they NEVER even get reprimanded, and I get banned 3/4 times!?

    No thanks.

  7. LW – I’ll take a stab…

    The Rangers are one center too many at this point. Truth is, Stepan and Anisimov both deserve second-line minutes, and Boyle assuredly deserves third-line minutes. Rupp is a good faceoff man, but has no business on third line, where Prust and Fedotenko are ostensibly starting.

    Meanwhile in Dallas, there’s a dearth of centers and an ownership crisis that has kept the team running on the uber-cheap. Ribeiro will slide in as the top-line center, Ott is good for third-line. There’s an outside chance that eighth-overall pick Scott Glennie makes the team, but penciling him into the second-line position would be ridiculous.

    Next we turn to Sweden, where Henrik Lundqvist was just spotted selling shampoo with his twin(a former Dallas Star) and none other than Louie Eriksson, who incidentally played on with Brad Richards just about every other time the guy stepped on the ice last season.

    Now between the Rangers’ two young centers, I’d say the more valuable one is Stepan at this point. Anisimov has a tremendous upside though and would probably be just about enough to pique the Stars interest in moving Eriksson, who incidentally plays left wing(as opposed to Gaborik’s right side). We’ve also heard rumors that the Rangers might buy out Wolski, who is in a contract year.

    Now let me add a little more fuel to the fire. The Stars also have an expensive piece on defense in Stephane Robidas. He’s a veteran defenseman and would be the oldest guy on the Ranger back line by about eight years. And interestingly enough, he shoots right and is considered a puck-mover. Possibly one who could ‘mentor’ some of the other youngsters back there.

    No doubt also, the Rangers have a glut of young talent on the back line and seemingly no place to put them. If you figure the top four defensemen stay(which I think they will) and Erixon starts out at third pairing, what do you do with the likes of Valentenko, Kundratek and Pashnin, all of who shoot left and don’t seem like they’ll have much chance of making the show?

    So here’s the deal: Robidas and Eriksson(total cap hit of $7.55 million) for Anisimov, Wolski, Valentenko and Kundratek(total cap hit of $7.3 million if all four players make the team). Stars get markedly younger and reduce their cap(especially if both young defenders are demoted or Wolski is bought out). The Rangers get their ubber line and everything falls into place:

    Eriksson-Richards-Gabork
    Dubinsky-Stepan-Callahan
    Fedotenko-Boyle-Prust
    Avery-Rupp-Weise/Zuccarello

    Staal-Girardi
    McDonagh-Sauer
    Erixon-Robidas

    Am I close Rod?

    Mind you, I don’t really believe any of this is going to happen. If one of us has thought it up, then you’ve got to believe someone in the Rangers or Stars organizations already had the same thought, kicked it around and dismissed it.

  8. See, that’s good stuff Phil.

    It’s a shame smartasses have to wreck this place; but I don’t run it, so whatever.

    I’d heard Robidas too, but upfront it was Benn.

    Also just heard Semin could land in SJ for Clowe, whom NYR also supposedly looked at.

    K, have a good life!!!

  9. “Saturday before the third Sunday every July we have our family golf outing.”

    What needs to happen for Carps golf outing not be on the 3rd Saturday in July?

    When will it occur next?

  10. Dantherangerfan on

    Is that you EKLUND?….. I do say it sounds possible.. very unlikely though who would you rather keep anisimov or step

  11. eddie eddie eddie on

    Rod – its all good my brutha….as i have mentioned before, i appreciate your posts, insights, and thoughts….so, keep bringing it….

  12. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    just got home from golfing today also…my low round of the year and tied for low round the past 2 years (90)(45-45, consistent all day)

    Carp…I hope you played well today also

    too many analytical (and very good) line up guesses to day…but we have too many forwards and are short a Dman so I say we are either trading Wolski or buying him out, and might also trade EC or MZA or MDZ if other teams are high on them

  13. Unless something just falls in the Rangers lap I wouldn’t make a move on D at this point.
    I’d consider resigning Eminger, perhaps. Otherwise, go to camp and see what we’ve got.
    Even then be patient and let the season progress. We shouldn’t necessarily expect the roster that starts the season to be the finished product. No need to rush things. Too early, still too many questions.

  14. bull dog line on

    if Clowe is available, the Rangers should go after him hard. I like both Benn, and Erikksonn.

  15. bull dog line on

    all of these left wingers make sense for the Rangers. AA is expendable right now.

  16. Gaborik – Richards – Wolski*
    Callahan – Anisimov – Dubinsky
    Prust – Boyle – Stepan
    Avery – Rupp – Zuccarello/Weise

    Staal – Girardi
    McDonagh – Sauer
    Erixon** – Valentenko**

    7 – Eminger***

    ————————–

    *Mind you, I don’t think Wolski is the answer here. I think we’re going to end up looking outside the organization. More on that below…

    **I think this pair makes the most sense. MDZ can use a full year of AHL seasoning; let him show poise and scoring at the AAA level. Erixon is apparently “NHL Ready” and Valentenko is just a beast.

    ***Eminger showed he could handle the unique challenges of the position and he’s got the puck skills to fill in up and down the lineup. I say bring him back on fair terms.

    —————————

    So, I don’t think Wolski is the answer… unless the question is “who should we include in a package to bring back a legitimate first liner with size and attitude?”

    I think we’ve got enough pieces in place and in reserve (especially on defense) to set our sights pretty high. At the end of the day, we have to remember that there are only six spots and 3-5 of them look to be taken for the long term. These are perishable assets. At some point we gotta move ’em or lose ’em.

    I’ve heard some people mention Jussi Jokinen as a player coming back. That’d be great. Do we have the assets to get him? What about Alex Burrows? Biting incident notwithstanding, he’s got the skills, plus he could provide the threat of mayhem that allows Richards and Gabby to really do their thing.

    I don’t know. Just speculating. There’s GOTTA BE a trade coming. A several for one deal (unless it also includes a serviceable veteran defenseman, which I DON’T think we need but everyone seems to be screaming about).

    That’s another post…

  17. Artie is expendable to you. To Slats, not so much.

    After missing the playoffs by only one single win, and losing their top center to free agency, I can’t see why they’d even consider moving Eriksson, who’s only 25, and is probably the most important part of the team.

    Obviously, unless there’s a hefty package offered.

  18. That is exacly my point, Orr….Well said. We can all come with some bright ideas who we would like to have and for what. And it’s nice to have that as a conversation during the dead summer days. I believe it could easily be done without offending each other, though. The truth is, Joe Nieuwendyk isn’t doing anything of that sort. His team is in the middle of changing the ownership. He has to make sure the product is appealing for a prospective buyer. He already lost Richards for nothing. Eriksson, Benn, Morrow and Ribeiro are top 6. Eriksson is 25, and Benn is finishing his EL contract at less then $1M per year. Why would they trade them? Hey, Ovechkin is a left wing too.

  19. And, Phil, Dallas doesn’t need to reduce their cap. From a finacial point of view, they’re as good as it gets. They have 23 players under contract with cap hit of $49.9M (floor is $48.3M).

  20. bull dog line on

    ilb,
    I know you like AA. I understand why. but if you look unbiasedly at the Rangers roster you would see where the holes are, and where the depth is. they need a goal scoring left wing, and they have depth at center ice. Stepan is a better player than AA, and Boyle makes more sense in a checking role. AA would be the guy to trade if someone were to become available.

  21. Bull dog- this has nothing to do with Anisimov. I’d trade him for Loui Erikkson in a second. It has everything to do with being realistic as to what’s available.

  22. And also I think it’s a bit premature to say after one year of NHL experience that Stepan is going to be a better player. Especially considering how young they both are.

  23. Latona- nice goal. I’d like to see him pull this one off against Chris Plunger

  24. Lol. Chris Plunger.

    I’ve never seen a goal executed, or even attempted, like that. Apparently, he’s on the Israeli national team. I didn’t even know they had one.

  25. bull dog line on

    ilb,
    I have no idea who is available. I am only saying that if someone worthwhile were to become available, Anisimov would probably be headliner of what it would take to acquire said player.

  26. Bull dog- it all depends on what the organization thinks about him. Not us. Apparently, they’ve been asked if he is available many times. And so far they said no.. It either means that they have very high hopes for him, or the right deal hasn’t been offered.

  27. bull dog line on

    ilb,
    also I do not think it is premature to say Stepan is better, or going to be better than AA. you can see it now. Stepan has more hockey sense, and is a more talented offensive player. AA is a better skater than Stepan, but I think Stepan overcomes that with his instinct.

  28. bull dog line on

    ilb,
    I am not for giving him away. I will be glad if the Rangers keep him. by the fact the Rangers have said no before, tells you there not looking to give him away either.

  29. Wicky (Leeloo Dallas mul-ti-pass) on

    Afternoon ILB and all!!

    Clowe would be awesome!!!

    Rod
    Personally, up until the last thread or two, I think you have been fine here and we all like ranger info. That being said you just CAN NOT get into a jousting match with cccp or lw (or any regular here) and not get hammered on by others (including me) here! So chill out!

    So interesting story from here today. My in laws are here (boooooo) and want to go to the farmers market this morning, so I throw on my boogaard shirt I just received and we head out. The market is packed and we are walking around and this guy walks up to me and says “awesome shirt man, terrible thing that caused the shirt to be made though”! I thought it was pretty sweet and mrs wicky gave me a high five and was like you never know where you will run into cool hickey people!

  30. That’s where we have to agree to disagre, bull dog…I believe Anisimov has already shown great sense of positioning’ especially in the defensive zone. He happens to be in the right place more often than not. That’s why Torts plays him in so many different situations, and trusts him. He has also already shown flashes of great offensive ability. I think they believe this part of his game is about to evolve. It’s quite possible that they think those two are their centers for years to come.
    Stepan will have to show them he can sustain this level and improve. But in theory, if everything works out, Stepan has higher upside. That’s why they’re projected as 1 and 2.

  31. I got mine too, wicky..A couple of days ago. Nice one. I’m wearing it for the boneheads gathering on 23rd.

  32. bull dog line on

    ilb,
    thanks for the treat of hockey talk on saturday, but I must go now. off to see Harry Potter with the family.

  33. Wicky (Leeloo Dallas mul-ti-pass) on

    Two quick questions for you guys

    Is pashnin eligible for the NHL this year?

    Can you trade guys up for arbitration?

  34. Wicky (Leeloo Dallas mul-ti-pass) on

    That’s right, I knew we had to be somewhere on the 23rd

  35. Pashinin has a contract for another year in KHL. And, yes you can. RFA’s rights can be traded to another team even if he is scheduled for arbitration.

  36. enough of this talk about erikson and benn. dallas wont trade them under any circumstances. come on people be realistic. know the cap and the team before these moronic ideas

  37. Wicky(grating PIBG)© (HIT the mullet!!) on

    I know what you mean, thought you might like it with the U S A and all!

  38. Rangers’ Gaborik excited to team with Richards

    “I’ve been used to shuffling my whole career,” said Gaborik. “Maybe the reason last year there were so many changes is that I didn’t play well enough, but hopefully Richie and I will be so good together there won’t be any reason to change.”

    “The whole unit is important,” said Gaborik, who exchanged text messages with Richards last week after playing phone tag. “Last year was very disappointing, but I’m using that as a learning experience and as motivation.

    “Adding someone of Richie’s caliber will make us a better team. I’m very excited about it. I can’t wait to get started.”

    Courtesy of Larry Brooks but…

    Rangers win Stanley Cup next season !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  39. On Anisimov – The kid has incredible talent, and he’s improved so vastly from what he was when he first came to the organization. Personally, I think it would be a real shame if they moved him for anything short of the final piece to get to the cup. But the fact remains that Richards is here for the next four or five years, meaning either he or Stepan needs to move to the wing or one of them will be dealt. I do think Stepan is the more talented of the two, but that is by no means a knock on Anisimov. Rather a complement on Stepan. Both of these kids are going to be real good in the near future. As for a slip? Not likely at all. Just look at what Stepan did in the Worlds. The kid was probably USA’s best forward.

    Wicky – I’m 90 percent certain Pashnin is expected to hop the pond this year. I believe his KHL contract ran out last season. As for trading a player facing arbitration, hell yeah you can. That’s what Edmonton just did with Cogliano. And that’s probably what Chicago will do with Campoli.

    On the Campoli note, I agree with all those who say he’s worth a look. Solid defenseman with decent puck-moving ability. But he made $1.4 million last year and is rumored to be seeking $3 million this year. Knock a million off that sticker price and I’d be all over it.

  40. You are right, phil, Pashnin is eligible to play in NHL this year. I looked at last year’s article. His KHL contract just expired.

    Good morning, boneheads! Where is Carp?

  41. bull dog line on

    if that is correct ilb,
    Pashnin is somebody I look forward to seeing in camp.

  42. Larry Brooks today saying Brett Burns was the one who got away, a Ranger target before he was dealt to SJ.

    If only you’d known that!!! – Except you did, cause I wrote 15 posts on it, including the price being sky high and Burns having 400 reptiles living in his basement.

    I know, no one remembers…..

    CCCP and all the other cheapshot wiseasses can take it from here and keep you clued in.

    Happy Sunday.

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