Rangers’ prospects hit the ice today


Hope everybody’s in a better mood today than they were yesterday.

Don’t know if I’ll be able to get any time this week to get over to the practice facility for the prospects camp. But I’m sure some of our favorite brethren on the Rangers beat will be there. So you guys can go to their blogs and tweets for info and discuss here, as always.

From the Rangers:


New York, June 26, 2011 – New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather announced today that the club will hold the 2011 Prospect Development Camp, Monday, June 27th – Friday, July 1st, at the Madison Square Garden Training Center.  The camp will bring together several of the team’s top prospects, including Christian Thomas, Tim Erixon, Carl Hagelin, Ryan Bourque, and Dylan McIlrath.  In addition, players selected at the NHL Entry Draft on Friday and Saturday in Minnesota, including first round selection J.T. Miller, will participate in the camp.

Miller, 18, was selected as the Rangers’ first round choice, 15th overall, in the NHL Entry Draft on Friday in Minnesota.  The East Palestine, Ohio native led Team USA in scoring with 13 points in six tournament contests en route to capturing the gold medal at the 2011 IIHF U-18 World Junior Championship in Germany.  He tied for third among all tournament skaters in points, fourth in assists (nine), sixth in goals (four), and seventh with a plus-eight rating.  Miller was selected by tournament coaches as Team USA’s top player during the elite tournament after leading Team USA in points and assists, and finishing second on the team in goals and plus/minus rating.  He also skated in 48 games with the U.S. National Under-18 Team (USHL) last season, registering 11 goals and 26 assists for 37 points, along with 80 penalty minutes.  Miller established USHL career-highs in games played, assists, points, and penalty minutes, and ranked third on the team in points, and second in assists and penalty minutes.  He also established career-highs with two shorthanded goals and three game-winning goals, and notched a USA U-18 career best, two power play goals.

Thomas, 18, ranks first in the Ontario Hockey League (OHL) with 95 goals over the last two seasons, and eighth in scoring with 165 points over the span.  He captured “Most Dangerous in Goal Area” and “Best Shot” honors in the 2010-11 Eastern Conference Coaches Poll and was voted runner-up in “Hardest Shot” after finishing second among all Canadian Hockey League (CHL) skaters with a career-high, 54 goals.  He and his father, former NHL forward Steve Thomas, became the only father-son duo to record 50+ goals in an OHL campaign.  Thomas skated in 66 games with the Oshawa Generals (OHL) last season, registering 54 goals and 45 assists for 99 points, along with 38 penalty minutes and a plus-20 rating.  He established career-highs in points, goals, assists, power play goals (19), game-winning goals (nine), penalty minutes, and plus/minus rating.  Thomas ranked second in the OHL in goals and sixth in points, and tied for first in the league in power play goals and third in game-winning goals.  He led Oshawa in goals, assists, points, power play goals, and game-winning goals, tied for second in shorthanded goals (two), and ranked third in plus/minus rating.  In the 2011 OHL Playoffs, Thomas led the league in postseason scoring with 19 points and nine goals at the time of Oshawa’s elimination in the second round, having recorded at least one point in nine of 10 contests and six multi-point performances.

The Toronto, Ontario native was originally the Rangers’ second round choice, 40th overall, in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft.

Erixon, 20, skated in 48 games with Skelleftea of the Swedish Elite League (SEL) last season, registering five goals and 19 assists for 24 points, along with 40 penalty minutes.  He established career-highs in games played, assists and points while skating in his third full season in Sweden’s top league.  Erixon tied for fifth on the team in assists and eighth in points, and ranked fifth on the club in penalty minutes.  He also tallied three goals and five assists in 18 playoff contests with Skelleftea.  Erixon tied for fifth on the team in playoff goals and assists, and sixth in points while establishing playoff career-highs in games played, goals, assists, points, and penalty minutes (12).  Internationally, Erixon captured a silver medal with Team Sweden at the 2011 IIHF World Championships in Slovakia, registering one assist and a plus-two rating in nine games.

Erixon was originally selected by Calgary as their first round choice, 23rd overall, in the 2009 NHL Entry Draft.  Born in Port Chester, New York, he is the son of former Blueshirts forward, Jan Erixon, who played his entire 10-year NHL career with the Rangers from 1983-84 to 1992-93.

Hagelin, 22, helped lead the University of Michigan Wolverines to the 2010-11 NCAA Championship game versus University of Minnesota Duluth on April 9, having registered an assist in their Frozen Four semifinals victory vs. the top-ranked University of North Dakota on April 7.  He also tallied two goals and one assist to earn Second Star honors in the “Big Chill” outdoor game vs. Michigan State University on December 11 at Michigan Stadium in front of 85,541, the “highest attendance for an ice hockey match” in history, according to the Guinness Book of World Records.  Hagelin captured the Hal Downes Award as team MVP, the Hazel M. Losh award as Michigan’s top scorer, and the Carl Isaacson award as the best student athlete for the second consecutive season after registering 18 goals and 31 assists for 49 points, along with 39 penalty minutes in 44 games.  He tied for 14th in the nation in points and 11th in assists, and led Michigan skaters in points, goals, assists, game-winning goals (six), power play goals (seven), and plus/minus rating (plus-21).  In addition, Hagelin was named the CCHA Best Defensive Forward award and a finalist for CCHA Player of the Year, and was nominated to the All-CCHA First Team and CCHA Scholar-Athlete Team.

The Sodertalje, Sweden native was originally the Rangers’ sixth round choice, 168th overall, in the 2007 NHL Entry Draft.

Bourque, 20, is a two-time medalist at the World Junior Championship as a member of the United States U-20 team, including a gold medal in the 2010 tournament and a bronze medal in the 2011 tournament.  Last season, Bourque skated in 49 games with the Quebec Remparts of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League (QMJHL), registering 26 goals and 33 assists for 59 points, along with 22 penalty minutes and a plus-14 rating.  He established career-highs in games played, goals, assists, points, and power play goals (six).  Bourque ranked third on the team in goals, points and points per game average (1.20).  He posted a career-high, 17 multi-point performances, and tallied a career-high, 11-game point streak from December 3 at Victoriaville to January 26 vs. Rimouski (10 goals, four assists over the span).

The Boxford, Massachusetts native was originally the Rangers’ third round choice, 80th overall, in the 2009 NHL Entry Draft.

McIlrath, 18, skated in 62 games with the Moose Jaw Warriors of the Western Hockey League (WHL) last season, registering five goals and 18 assists for 23 points, along with 153 penalty minutes.  He ranked third among team defensemen in points, goals and power play goals (two), and ranked third on Moose Jaw in penalty minutes.  McIlrath established a career-high with his 18th assist of the season in a 5-3 win vs. Regina on March 1.  He recorded at least one point in six of eight games from October 13 vs. Kootenay to November 5 at Regina, registering seven points (two goals, five assists) during the stretch.  In addition, McIlrath skated in two games with the Connecticut Whale of the American Hockey League (AHL), making his professional debut on April 9 vs. Bridgeport.

The Winnipeg, Manitoba native was originally selected as the Rangers’ first round choice, 10th overall, in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft.

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  1. Good morning, boneheads!

    You’re right, Carp. It’s been difficult here on the blog lately. But we can all fix it with ease.
    And I know it’s not easy, but please- DFTT!
    Do not respond to his posts, do not refer to him, do not mention anything he says, whether it’s about some random Rangers player, whether he is offending Orr, Carp, or whether he is complaining about the offensive language on the blog. Doesn’t matter, all he is trying to do is to engage you. Let’s see how long it takes for him to go elsewhere.

  2. Good morning everybody! By the sound of it, it seems like it was a pretty bad weekend on here. I guess I didn’t miss anything!

  3. From the previous thread: Interesting to think what would have happened with Lindros as a Ranger, and I think Carp is probably right. Now take all this revisionist history with a grain of salt or just pass over this post, since it’s intended for fun with the morning coffee.

    If the arbitrator in 1992 sides with the Rangers, they lose three members of their cup team. Kovalev, obviously. Then also Doug Lidster, who was received in the Vanbiesbrouk trade with the Canucks, and Tikkanen, who came over for Weight. If the picks were in 1993, 1994 and 1995, they would have never drafted Peter Ferraro, Nik Sundstrom or traded for Pat Verbeek(they dealt the rights to the 1995 pick to the Whalers, who selected J.S. Giguire).

    Now say they get Lindros. Loosing Lidster would have been no problem. But Kovalev would have. And arguably, so would have been the loss of Tikkanen. But assuming they did all the other ancillary deals that year, the team that went into the 1994 playoffs could have looked a bit like this:


    And basically the normal pairings on defense. With the players omitted, the Rangers would have scored 15 fewer goals in their 23 playoff games. Lindros averaged a little better than .45 goals per game in his playoff history. Assuming he follows this same average, he’d score about 10 goals, which leaves the Rangers in a deficit. Of course, if you use his regular season average(about .67 goals per game), he would have scored about 16 goals. Rangers win the cup by an even greater margin.

    Of course, this doesn’t take into account chemistry, linemates, game situations, et cetera. But it’s an interesting prospect. Not to mention, how would have Lindros done under the eye of Messier? Lindros was a pretty tough player back then, arguably one that was cut from the mold of Messier. Would the captain have helped Lindros’ game? Would he have taught the kid how to keep his head up?

    All sad. I really hated Lindros in the day. But to see what he was back then to what he became less than 10 years later was just sad. Real sad.

  4. How about this what if: forget Lindros. What if they didn’t trade away Weight and Amante? They probably wouldn’t have won it in 1994, but how many SC they would have after?

  5. phil

    If the Rangers had gotten Lindros then the moves for Noonan, Matteau, Anderson etc. dont happen…

  6. And they can even go higher during his first year, the new cap allows up to $12.6M if he wants to be protected from a future rollback.

  7. Ilb: SAGE advice! Listen to ilb, folks.

    Speaking of Mess and Co…..aren’t they going to have to “play” before the Winter Classic? Exhibition style?

  8. Like Brooks mentioned in the article, all these guys say “they want to play for NY”, and they can’t stress it enough, yet it takes a massive contract to get them here.

    For once, I’d like to sign a guy who’s willing be more flexible with his contract. If you want to be a Ranger so bad, then do us a favor and help us out!

    I’m intrigued by the idea of having Richards on the team, but not to the point that I would consider a long term deal.

  9. Again on Lindros:

    CCCP – Looked up Lindros’s profile on TSN.ca since they have a listing of all transactions/injuries. The reason he missed a game in 2002-03 was due to a suspension. So can we just credit him for a full season?

    2002/10/12 Suspended by the NHL for 1 game.

    Strange but useful website here (compiling all these Rangers articles from October 2002), but it explains that Lindros was suspended for a high-sticking incident.


  10. I don’t know if youse all read to the bottom of Spector’s article on not trading Anisimov, but doesn’t this describe Sather so well today?

    “Sather was happy that when this season’s schedule came out, the Rangers drew a road trip to Western Canada upon their return to North America.

    ‘We go out west, I’ll get a chance to duck hunt,’ Sather said.”


  11. Is a contract as Brooks describes what he wants the Rangers to offer with $11 million in the first year of a deal that averages $6.5 million even allowable after what the Devils did with the Kovalchuken? I understand it would only be five years, but it would appear to be a clear circumvention.

  12. LOL! Duck hunting!

    I love that so many teams are interested in acquiring Artie. I love the fact that Slats hasn’t caved to any offers, even more! I have high hopes for the kid.

    Which is why signing Richards bugs me. We bring in a guy who automatically steps in on the 1st line, and that gives Artie and/or Step-On less time. Unless they outplay him, which would mean Richards is not getting the job done!

    Is there anyone here that doesn’t think we’ll sign Richards, on July 1st?

  13. Doodie Machetto on

    Been busy so I haven’t had time to comment, but here is my take on the draft:

    JT=Jessiman Two

    Why would they draft a guy that projects to be a third liner with the 15th overall pick? Why not either:

    a) trade down and get two third liners; or
    b) draft a player with some upside, even if the possibility of reaching that upside isn’t as strong as it is for the top 10 guys?

    They blew it!

    As for the Grachev trade, I have to say, the kid really wasn’t showing much in the way of offense, even if his two-way game had improved at the AHL level. And I said it during his time with the big club: the kid did not look like an NHL player. If Filatov only landed a third rounder, a third rounder for Grachev is a good deal. I like Fogarty’s upside, but I would have rather they taken an upside player at 15 and then used that third rounder on a third liner. I think Fogarty tops out in Eric Christensen territory. Same for St. Croix.

    Our picks in round 5 and lower can’t be criticized because you really aren’t expecting anything at that point, but I would’ve liked to have seen them draft a goaltender.

  14. Honestly, ORR…..

    I am expecting some insane three team deal that brings us some “Leino” type players for a year or two. Maybe I should say hoping….That would mean that we don’t sign Richards.

    As I type this though the sad part of my brain is saying Richards comes here at way too many years (like 7 or 8).

  15. I have faith in Brian Burke’s crazy being greater than Glen Sather’s crazy, but Richards may sign for less with us anyway. There is some hope that he could still go somewhere else. While it looks on the surface like LA is out, Dean Lombardi has some crazy to share, too.

  16. Doodie Machetto on

    Orr, I’m hoping with the cap space that Chicago and LA have created, they take a run at him.

  17. We’re gonna get Richards. His contract is going to be the stuff of nightmares, though.

  18. Doodie Machetto on

    All I’m saying is Stamkos still isn’t signed. July 1: 12 years 144 million. Make it happen!

  19. From Dobber Hockey:
    “To get Brad Richards, the Leafs would need to pony up $9 million at least. Not worth it. I say this because the Rangers are involved.”

    “So I doubt it would happen. Not when you compete with a team that gives Gomez or Drury over $7 million (when the cap was $15M lower)”

    “Just so Leaf fans know what they’re up against. I had them as the favorite to get [Brad Richards], but once the Rangers jumped in, it was over.”

    “The Panthers are the only competition to NYR, thanks to the large gap to the salary floor.”


    He is only a fantasy sports guy, but a smart guy.

  20. If the rangers are going to throw stupid money/contract, there is no doubt Stamkos is the way to go but we all know stupid moron Sather is going to throw another stupid contract at a over 30 with concussion history at Brad Richards and the insanity keeps going on and on. There is no doubt in my mind that as long as Dolan is the owner, Sather will be the GM and the rangers will never sniff a Stanely cup finals or the stanely cup.

  21. Don’t you think that Bryzgalov signing set a pretty rough tone for GM’s?


    No because signing him and the associated trades that cleared enough room were ordered from above the GM office in Philly. And they went overboard to overcompensate for a perennial weakness.

  22. Spider,

    As if the Leafs never gave out/acquired a bad contract or two or three (Jeff Finger, Komisarek, Giguere) and paid excessive amounts for B+ talent in the trade market. I do think Toronto is that dumb to try outspend the Rangers in a bidding war.

  23. Maybe the Bryzgalov thing set a tone for goalies. The amount of years that Goalies are getting now is insane. Maybe it’s a product of the Luongo contract (which doesn’t look very good right now).

  24. Spideraasenski

    Nice find on Lindros, and pretty awesome website, too! I was wondering, why he missed one game. So yes, I (we) can credit him with a full season! ;)

  25. Looking at the moves teams are making to get under the cap, and moves teams are making to get to the floor leads me to believe that Kovulchuk may be the last mega signing for quite a while. And really, as much as I have been predicting this signing (for the last 4 years!!) I can’t say it is in the best interests of the NYR to go this route again. If Richards wants a reasonable deal, I am all for it. But why would he do that?
    I wouldn’t.
    But as I said, the rest of the league is figuring it out…

    I believe Sather will be bidding against himself with Richards.

  26. CW – so you are saying that Sather is like Dr. Strangelove….when his hand attacks his own throat?

  27. If Richards isn’t signed by Sather at one minute after midnight Friday morning I’ll be shocked. Why? The Rangers need a player of his caliber. So, what about the contract? What about the Gomez contract, Mike Richards, Jeff Carter, Brian Campbell? There seems to be always another team to take on the contracts if you don’t want the player any more. How will they fit him under the cap? How did they fit both Gomez and Drury? If there’s a will, there’s a way.

    Richards is coming to NY. Bet on it.

  28. CCC,
    I am 99% SURE B Richards will be a Ranger. I am just not sure it is such a good idea anymore. The Rangers are drafting project kids with this in mind.

  29. Mike Richards and Carter are kind of different examples. They were signed to long extensions while still under team control and were projected to be valuable performers throughout most of the lifetime of their deals. Their NTCs had not kicked in yet so they could in theory (and as we found out in practice) have been moved at any time.

    I have a feeling that Campbell was moved because of Tallon’s familiarity with him since he’s the guy that gave him the deal in the first place.

  30. I didn’t say whether I thought it was a good thing or a bad thing. In fact, I’m torn on whether I want them to do it or not. I’m just sure that it’s going to happen.

  31. Based on catching up on the weekend’s comments, I think July 1st could not come at a better time.

    To be quite honest, as long as Sather doesn’t give Richards a NTC or NMC, I can stomach the outlandish deal he will ultimately sign him to.

  32. Richards is going to want the table along with all the money.


    nuh uh!!! TABLE STAYS!!!!

  33. CTB – That’s the *only* reason they were able to move Campbell, especially because Campbell had to give his permission based on his partial NTC.

    Charlie – I would be shocked, since the free agent signing period doesn’t open until noon on Friday, but yeah, I get your point.

  34. Funny that 1 and 2 in Stamkos’s draft year are both unsigned as of now. Either one of them could potentially attract a huge offer sheet.

  35. Does the “simple poll” take into consideration the realistic parameters of the type of deal it would take to sign Richards?

  36. czechthemout!!!! on

    I am ok with a 3 -4 year deal for Richards 30-32 million as long as there is no nmc or ntc. The cap next year will go up by about 5-10% because of the new tv deal. As for the money, let’s face it, this team has money to burn and will always spend up to the cap. It their money and they can do with it what ever they want. As a fan, the only thing I hope for is that what they spend doesn’t leave them without any flexibility. So far, they have managed the cap somewhat adequately.

  37. no, CT. but we know the parameters aren’t realistic. it’s going to be five, six, seven years, $7M plus per, NMC.


  38. The cap will go down significantly next year. That will be one of the main points of a new CBA.

  39. And I’d imagine there will be a push to make it harder for teams to bury their mistakes like the Rangers did with Redden and Oilers did with Souray.

  40. It won’t be pretty, Carp. They’ll have to work on the structure so that it is front loaded (especially first year- rollback protection for him). In fact NMC or NTC isn’t as important as is the numbers at the end of his contract- it has to be easy to buy out. Boy, I’m not looking into that July 1st….

  41. wicky(grating PIBG)© (Non visor wearing male, 26, holder of 5 LLPs!!) on

    morning ILB and all!!



    Anyone waived yet (from any team)?


    fish called wanda guy?


    mcilrath looks a lot faster than last year they are saying…any other news yet on the camp? How does pahnin look?


    Morning sally!

  42. If the cap goes down with the new CBA, I would hope there would be some sort of amnesty provision like the one in the post-lockout CBA. That let the Rangers dump the awful Holik contract back in 2006.

  43. Doodie Machetto on

    “The cap will go down significantly next year. That will be one of the main points of a new CBA.”

    Actually, I don’t think it will go down much, if at all. I think the cap floor will go down. Either way, if the cap decreases, there will be a salary roll back.

  44. I’m with Carp. I don’t see B-Money Richard$ taking a “discount” to play for the Rangers…

    That doesn’t mean he wont be a Ranger. It just means that we will be comparing him to Dreary in years 4 and year 5 if/when his production drops off…

    When I think about us hypothetically signing Stammer to an offer sheet and him accepting (with Tampa unable to match), I also think that would prompt Tampa to sign Richard$. I don’t see the harm in making the offer but we may walk away with nothing if Tampa matches. Fine with me. I think the chances are slim to none that an offer is made for Steven Stamkos by the NYR anyway…

  45. It is insane to me that the cap would decrease……Baseball players are so unbelievably overpaid it’s insane. Hockey players play (on average) shorter careers too. They should get MORE.

  46. The rollback is the reason Richards will want his first year to be at max, Doodie. If the league negotiates % of gross revenue to be 50 or less for players, the cap will have to go down.

  47. Even half filled baseball stadiums have at least the same amount of seating as full hockey arenas and they play twice as many games and the TV rights to their games are a lot more valuable.

  48. wicky(grating PIBG)© (Non visor wearing male, 26, holder of 5 LLPs!!) on

    baseball sucks!!

    I agree, the first year protection seems logical!!

  49. Doodie Machetto on

    ilb, I have no problem giving him a max first year, provided that the next few years go down, and he doesn’t have a movement clause. It would be a VERY friendly contract to a cap floor team.

  50. Question for the salary cap guys out there:

    If a player has, for example, a front-loaded contract, is the player’s annual cap hit the actual amount he is paid in a given year or is it the average annual salary for that player?

  51. Doodie, that would be an optimal situation, but something tells me he won’t sign without NMC.

  52. Doodie – You’re making some pretty far out claims about players I’m going to assume you’ve never seen. Who says Miller is a “third liner?” To answer your questions, the Rangers didn’t trade down because they saw something in Miller that they think fits with the team, even if it isn’t for three or four years. It’s clear from just about everything they’ve done since Tortorella came on board, they’re building long-term, and Miller is exactly the type of player who could potentially replace or augment a guy like Callahan years down the road. Why not trade down for picks in the second or third? Well, obviously they weren’t too hot on the talent that was there. For the most part, the draft was very murky all around. There were no real players after the first five, maybe 10 picks, that really have NHL-bound written all over them.

    Now you go on to say you like Fogarty’s upside, but say he “tops out in Eric Christensen territory” and throw St. Croix into the same boat. Why? Again, I’m assuming you’ve seen about as much of these guys as the rest of us. Even if you saw a lot of them, what’s to say they’re head cases like Christensen? In fact, I’ve read Fogarty is the proverbial “rink rat” who does just about anything to get ahead in the game –quite the departure from Christensen. As for St. Croix, he was projected to go in the mid-second round. His pick is nothing short of a steal, given from the clips I’ve seen of him.

    I urge you to look a little deeper at this draft before writing it off as “they blew it.” Only time will tell, and maybe you’re right. But from where I see it, they did a good job of drafting guys who are Torts’ type players, and that’s exactly how you build a good franchise.

  53. Gift of GAB-orik on

    Hey all!

    I’m still reeling from last nights bitter defeat in our wildcard game.
    Now i feel like the rangers did after the shootout loss in game 82.

    We’re up 2-1 with about 4 minutes to go. They score to tie it around 3 minutes left.

    We score a shorthanded goal to go up 3-2 with 2:30 to go.

    They score to tie it with about 1:57 to play.

    They score and go up 4-3 with 1:08 to play.

    We tie it 9 seconds later.

    They score with 38 seconds to go, take the lead at 5-4 and win the game.

    Wild swings of momentum and emotion. Brutal loss. Left me stunned.

    They attempted 6 shots in the final 4 minutes. I blocked 2 of them, the other 4 went in.


    …..other than that…. have we overpaid for B money yet?

  54. Question for those of you that know more than me (all of you): How do you think B. Richard$ will gel with Gaborik and would they even be put on the same line?

    Also – Noah’s question is a good one! What’s the answer?

  55. Mister Delaware on

    97% sure its the average. A 3 year, $21MM deal thats structured as $11MM, $9MM, $1MM has an annual cap hit of $7MM.

  56. Yea I guess that’s the way it will go, ilb. I guess at this point I don’t really know WHAT system or type of Centre would make Gaborik play like his contract.

  57. wicky(grating PIBG)© (Non visor wearing male, 26, holder of 5 LLPs!!) on

    maybe the rangers could get dru to waive his ntc to go to florida. His buddy from buffalo “soupy” is there.

    what about konopka as an addition. Isn’t he pretty good on face offs?

  58. Gift of GAB-orik on

    thanks ilb.

    It was a brutal loss. It hurts to lose that way after i’m throwing my body all around the rink.
    Our guys were yelling at each other on the ice, goalie got into it with one of our centers, and he just came undone, and couldn’t stop a beach ball.

    game over. season over. TRADE EVERYONE! haha

  59. Manny – I think they would be a dangerous pairing. Richards is a puck distribution guy. Gaborik is a sniper. Richards has a set of wheels that he can use to keep up with Gabs too. Part of Gabby’s game is that he likes getting the puck in the zone and then handing it off to someone. Then he sneaks into a lane where he can fire of a quick shot. At least that’s what he did when he was most successful with the team. Frankly, if you’re going after Richards, I think the first guy you ask about him is Gaborik. Sit down with the guy and show him some tapes. See what he thinks.

    But even if they don’t mesh, having one on a line and another on second would at least add secondary scoring. I do still have a fear about the disaster that occurred between Gomez, Drury and Jagr, none of whom meshed at all.

  60. I don’t think Drury would pass any of the medicals required to complete a trade.

  61. Doodie Machetto on


    When I say “Christensen territory” I’m talking int terms of actual NHL production, not in terms of character or style of play.

    As for JT Miller, I’ve read a ton of scouting reports on the guy, all before the draft, as I had a good inclination that the Rangers were going to draft either him or Tyler Biggs. The consensus among those reports was that he is going to be a good third liner. They all agree that he doesn’t have much offensive upside. I’ve seen him ranked as low as 59th overall (The Hockey News). Even CSS had him as only 23rd among North American skaters. Gordie Clark even said that on the U-18 juniors team that it was Grimaldi scoring all of the goals. JT Miller, to me, was lucky to have Grimaldi on his line. Grimaldi is a guy with explosive offensive talent, with his only limitations being his size. But we’ve seen time and again in the NHL that being a small player doesn’t mean that you will be unable to hack it, just as we’ve seen time and again that being a big player doesn’t mean that you are going to be good.

    Miller will be Jessiman 2.0.

  62. There is no question Richards will help the team in many ways, not only in jump starting Gaborik. PP QB, points, he also gives every other young player an opportunity to develop with much less pressure (AA, Stepan). But most importantly, in my mind, the young core will grow, develop and play within the winning environment. They will not win the SC, but the team will get better, and will win more games. Those are the positives. The one huge negative- it’s his possible contract. And I truly hope that if it comes down to prohibitive numbers, Sather says no.

  63. wicky(grating PIBG)© (Non visor wearing male, 26, holder of 5 LLPs!!) on

    sorry you lost. If it makes you feel any better, I got kicked out of our last game.

  64. wicky(grating PIBG)© (Non visor wearing male, 26, holder of 5 LLPs!!) on

    does anyone else think that if we sign richards, slats will try and increase the “grit” level to protect him?

  65. Doodie Machetto on

    ilb, I’m sure Florida can choose to waive the medical.

    As for Richards-Gaborik, I really don’t think Gaborik needs an elite center to be productive. The reason for the downturn in his production, at least to me, was that his release was much slower this past season. The thing that made Gaborik so dangerous was that he had such a fast and deceptive release. Last season he could have sent the goaltender a message by Pony Express before letting his shot go.

    I mean, he had career numbers with Prospal as his center. Was Prospal any better than Pierre Marc Bouchard or Pavel Demitra? I doubt it.

  66. doodie, you think the Panthers would act like the Isles do with DiPietro and keep Drury on the books (not LTIR) just for the cap hit even if he’s unable to play?

  67. Doodie Machetto on

    ilb, I think there is a big question as to whether Richards will jump-start Gaborik. Just like everyone thought Gomez with Jagr would be an amazing pair, and it didn’t work at all. I really do think that the only thing needed to get Gaborik going is Gaborik.

    And you mention giving the younger guys time to develop, but he (and his contract) will prevent them from taking control of the team.

  68. Doodie Machetto on

    CTB, I think they might, but only for Drury and only for this year.

    With the cap floor as high as it is, they need to pay to make it. The big problem for them is that it is likely to get scaled down in the new CBA, so they don’t want to be committed to a large contract beyond this year. Drury fits the bill perfectly as his contract ends next summer and his cap hit is larger than his salary.

    That’s also why Redden isn’t going anywhere. There is no discount in terms of salary and cap hit, and he still has two more years after next year left on his contract.

  69. Manny- I’d have to say yes, since I’m one of a few (if not the only one) who actually met wicky. Typical goon, but perhaps with some decent crease clearing skills :-)

  70. Doodie – See, I’ve heard Miller’s play was one of the reasons Grimaldi was so successful. He’s got a ticket to UND, which is one of the nation’s top hockey programs now. And even if he is a bust, he’s a bust in a very week draft. Probably one of the weakest since 1999. I think to call him Jessiman 2.0 is both jumping the gun and also discounting how bad of a pick Jessiman actually was in that draft. There’s positively no comparing the two as for their development. Jessiman had one breakout year for Dartmouth, a program that isn’t very good, and that was pretty much the only reason he got drafted(that and because he was the quintessential ‘good story’ the Rangers always tried to draft). Miller was a solid pick, or just about as solid as they could have gotten at 15. To get anything better, they really needed to move into the top 10.

  71. That’s what i want to know, Carp. Is Brad Richards not coming? Imagine the surprise/relief/anger/suicidal type of mood in Ranger land when B. Rich won’t come on July 1st? lol

  72. Doodie Machetto on


    The only person that says Grimaldi was successful because of Miller was Gordie Clark. Just look at the scoring for the development team. Grimaldi led the team by 5 points. He outscored Miller by 9 goals and 10 total points. Clearly, Grimaldi had no problems on his own.

    I just don’t see any upside in Miller. Once you’re at 15, why not go for the upside of an offensive player like Armia (taken at 16)? Guys like Miller are a dime a dozen. In fact, it seems like for the past few years, a dozen guys like him have come in and out of the team.

  73. Doodie – again, don’t know how you can make a call like that unless you’re a scout. From what I’ve seen of Armia, I see a guy who is going to struggle on the smaller ice. And Grimaldi? Sure he’s decent. But better than a player like Zuccarello? Nope. Nowhere near the talent of St. Louis. His size will be a serious issue. Don’t know how you can see past these issues and not see the positives in Miller. He wasn’t my first choice either, but I like his style of play. I see him more as a guy who will be a lot like Kreider.

  74. Gift of GAB-orik on

    I agree… although realistically Carp, do you see the Rangers making any significant moves right on July 1st? I imagine Richards will drag it out for a few days to maximize his contract. Thoughts?

  75. I don’t think Gaborik needs Richards to get him jump started. He scored 42 goals without anyone close to Richards ability at center. Still, you have to think that Richards and Gaborik on the same line could be pretty lethal. Key would is “could.”

    Gift, too bad about your game. I feel your pain. We lost in the playoffs after taking a 1-0 league where the other team scored the tying goal when it went off one of their players’ helmet. They scored the game winner in overtime on a weak shot from the point that went off one of our defenseman’s legs. Horrible way to lose.

  76. Gift of GAB-orik on

    Cross Check- Yea i hear that. I’d rather lose in a blowout then lose a heartbreaker. It feels great to win a tight game, but makes the loss that much worse. At least when you get blown out you know you had no shot.

    Carp- Can Richards and/or his agent talk to other teams about contracts prior to July 1st to work out details, or is that tampering?

  77. (that and because he was the quintessential ‘good story’ the Rangers always tried to draft).


    I’d like to add the Gilroy signing as part of that methodology, but I 100% agree with this statement. See Ferraro, Peter and Chris.

  78. Doodie Machetto on

    “I see him more as a guy who will be a lot like Kreider.”

    See, I think Kreider and Miller are nothing alike. Kreider is FAST. His whole game is based on that amazing foot speed. Miller is a slightly above average skater, but more of a physical player.

  79. DUMB QUESTION ALERT: So, assuming that a player’s average annual salary is the cap hit in a given year, what advantages do teams have by front-loading deals, besides obviously saving some cash on the “debit” side of their balance sheet?

    Or maybe that is it…teams just looking to increase revenue.

  80. Buyouts at the tail end of a deal since buyouts are based on actual salary and not cap hit.

  81. Gab, that’s tampering.

    Hi Linda!!!

    Cross Check, I agree that to a large extent Gaborik creates (or doesn’t create) his own chances. But the Rangers clearly need more first-line players, and a legit first line. When Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan (for example) is clearly your second line and second PP, then I think you’ve got something.

  82. Hiya, Linda!

    Did you see that Kotalik and his huge forearms were traded back Buffalo?!! LOL!

    Yeah, where is ddeb?!?

  83. 4generations 4 cups on

    I just want to know why Stamkos isn’t signed with the Lightning. It seems really odd that the leagues best player over the past 2 years (best goal scorer) is have a really difficult time locking up a sensible contract with the team whom drafted him.

    I, like every single person here, would love a huge offer sheet thrown at Stamkos.

  84. Carp, I agree with you 100%. The team needs a legitimate first line center. In fact, they need more talented players, period. However, I don’t subscribe to the theory that the reason why you sign Richards is to get Gaborik going. You sign Richards if you think adding him will upgrade the team talent level whether it’s playing on Gaborik’s line or not.

  85. Doodie Machetto on

    Carp, Straka-Nylander-Jagr. One of the top 5 most lethal lines in the NHL for two years, featuring only one legit first line player.

  86. oh ddeb… got ya!

    oh my…kaspar! there is one that vanished forever! sometimes i think kaspar is Olga…but Olga won’t admit it.

  87. Doodie, yeah, but it helps that one of the three was one of the top players in NHL history. And both of the other two were better than Frolov and Christensen or Prospal.

  88. Doodie Machetto on

    kaspar August 1st, 2007 at 12:01 am

    I call up Sather, I say ” be nice to Comrade Avery. Why you callink him not nice things in your brief”
    Then Sather say “who is this speakink?”
    I say “it’s me boss! Kaspar from hartford”
    He tell me, “you are very lucky not to go to arbitration this year dumkoff. Take your 3 million, play with kids and don’t piss me off”
    I say, “just kidding this not Kaspar, this that guy Malakov. goodbye”

  89. That Kaspar post is AMAZING. Must be like a few weeks before I started e-hanging out here.

  90. Gift of GAB-orik on

    From Spector:

    FLYIN’ RYAN: The speed king of the afternoon skate was Ryan Bourque, while Tim Erixon was an unintentional comedy star, spraying Barbara Underhill with snow. The defenseman quickly realized what he had done, and while he did immediately go to apologize, that was not going to stop his teammates from banging their sticks on the ice and giving him a hard time about it.

    haha… nice intro to the orginization!

  91. Doodie Machetto on

    That helps, of course. But I don’t think Prospal two years ago was any worse than Nylander and definitely not Straka. I’ll give you Christensen and Frolov though.

    But Gaborik is supposed to be an elite scorer. I don’t see Iginla complaining about the crap he has been straddled with over the years. Kovalchuk scored 43 with Todd White and Slava Kozlov!

  92. Watching Straka-Nylander-Jagr was something I don’t think I appreciated until they all left. That line had so much synergy and chemistry.

    Straka was one of the more underrated players on that Rangers team. I’d say Fedotenko plays a lot of like him…which is why I’d like to see Fedotenko re-signed come July 1st.

  93. I agree with, Doodie, to some extent. Nylander and Straka on NYR with Jagr, they’re legit first line players, but without Jagr, not so much, in my opinion.

    The three of them had chemistry that we have not witness since. It amazes me that Sather would want to break that up to bring in both Blowmez, and Dreary. Crazy!

  94. Bye, David. I know what you were trying to do. Get me to ban you so you could say, “Well, why didn’t you ban Orr?”

    So, you’re banned (from Joe’s fruit stand). Jackwagon.

  95. I don’t know why, but that last one really, really did crack me up. Almost had seltzer coming out the nostrils.

  96. Carp – that lack of updated is why I think he had to rename it to a “Semi-Annual Online Periodical published at the sole discretion of the author.”

  97. Maybe ORR doesn’t want to gloat right now so I will do it for him……

    “Another game for Milos!!!!”

  98. and the funniest thing is that in his last post he forgot to add his “Defending the core” crap lol

    and he became first ever off-season recipient of the infamous “shinebox”! YEY!!

  99. It would be hilarious if David used his free time (when he’s not “parenting” his daughter) to actually update his blog.

  100. All right all right. Let’s no speak ill of the dead. We got an entire week’s worth of proclaiming their most recent draft class as busts, wondering how many years, NMC/NTC it will take to get Brad Richard$ and trading everyone to discuss.

  101. Per Waseka: TSNBobMcKenzie Kevin Bieksa has agreed to terms on a new contract with the Canucks.

  102. czechthemout!!!! on

    As much as I hope I am wrong, after watching the game that clinched the hold medal for the under 18 environment, JT Miller will be nothing more than a third liner player. This is one of the few times I agree with Doodie. They should have taken a shot with Armia or McNeil or traded down for some more picks and drafted Miller a little lower!

  103. I’m busy at work, don’t have time to go through all the posts….What happen with troll?

  104. Thanks, Manny…I need to amend my morning post- DFTT, unless you use carcillo to feed him. Thank you, Carp! He’ll be back another computer. But, eventually, we will win this race.

    Btw, I have a date for the weekend boneheads gathering. I’ll talk about it later…..Back to work(do I sound like wicky?)

  105. Gift of GAB-orik on

    in unrealated news…

    I changed my hockey number to 68 in honor of Jagr a few years back.

    True Story:

    My team ordered new jerseys, and in the first game I played with the new jersey I got hit in the slot right as I was shooting. The puck went in, and my lights went out. Concussion, and had to be carted off the ice.
    On the way to the hospital, they cut my jersey and shoulder pads off. But hey… i scored!

    So I had to order a new jersey, changed numbers, and have been concussion free since!

  106. Finger’s on the ban button, ilb. Just like Rod and Boston Brewins, he’ll eventually run out of IPs. And if he keeps it up, we’ll call in the legal team and really make him wish he’d never come to this side of the street.

  107. Doodie Machetto on

    “Finger’s on the ban button, ilb.”

    Is that what Jeff is up to these days?

  108. Not surprised CCCP. Although that might be his daughter and not him. Hard to tell with those google searches….

  109. Ding, dong, the troll is dead! Rub your eyes, get out of bed! Ding, dong, the aasen troll is dead!

  110. Gift,
    That sounds like the goal Jagr scored in Game 4 of the 2008 series against the Penguins when he took a pass in the slot, scored, then got knocked down and stayed down while everyone was celebrating.


  111. Doodie Machetto on

    Hall of Fame balloting this week. Top 10 players who are currently not in that I think should be in (in order):

    1) Dave Andreychuk
    2) Mark Howe
    3) Doug Gilmour
    4) Pavel Bure
    5) Joe Niuewendyk
    6) Kevin Lowe
    7) Pierre Turgeon
    8) Adam Oates
    9) Ed Belfour (first year on ballot)
    10) Steve Larmer

  112. Doodie Machetto on

    Along with the rest of his first-ballot class of Joe Sakic, Rob Blake, and Scott Niedermayer.

  113. Lowe isn’t in already? If Glenn Anderson is in from the Oilers teams then Lowe should be in. He was the defensive conscience on the blueline for those teams.

  114. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    Just checked back after being away for two-three days.
    I think I’ll come back after the first big signing after the clock strikes July 1

    (except for prospects camps updates)

  115. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    CARP–BTW, did you ever get the book I mailed you ? (just wondering)

  116. wicky(grating PIBG)© (Non visor wearing male, 26, holder of 5 LLPs!!) on

    more than I care to be!!

    so there is this guy on the other team that is doing some nasty slashing to a couple of the forwards on my team, he keeps getting warned by the “officials” but that is it. So after three or four shifts his line comes out when I am out there and I tell my D partner to stay back a bit and he comes across into our zone and I just flatten him! A bit of a scrum ensues and he finally gets back up and comes at me like he is going to fight so I drop em and pop him right on the button..game over..season over!! (for me)

    Funny side note, a couple of shifts before I was going off the ice and he was coming on and the puck slid along the benches and I tried to fire it and hit him in the pecans, missed him and hit a teammate of his on the bench and knocked out 4 teeth!!

  117. Bleacher report already has the rangers finishing tenth. I think they predicted them to come in tenth last year. Something about them hanging on to the 8th spot but showing nothing in the playoffs. I am already aggravated

  118. Doodie Machetto on

    Via Waseka:

    RealKyper Also heard from #NHL draft #Lightning and RFA Stamkos are not close to getting a deal done. Teams are eligible to submit offer sheet July 1

  119. And it’s the first day of summer and the kids are playing decently inthe pool and I am aggravated about the rangers or predictions about the rangers.

  120. wicky(grating PIBG)© (Non visor wearing male, 26, holder of 5 LLPs!!) on

    yep, probably not playing in that one again!

    well, just like ILB, off to work!

    Later assens!!

  121. Gift of GAB-orik on


    that story makes me feel lucky i don’t have to line up across from you! haha

    The refs are a joke sometimes.

    I once had a game where this team was beating us bad… i mean a total blowout. They’re up 7-1, and goal hanging and celebrating goals like they won the cup. Well that grinds my gears and gets my blood boiling.

    So i issue a general warning to their bench, that the next guy who goal hangs while i’m on the ice is going to get taken out, and show some class and sportsmanship. Well sure enough, my next shift, we’re in their zone and a winger from their team creeps out of the zone and goes by the red line. I start backing out of the zone (i’m playing the opposite side) they get control of the puck and i make a bee line for him. Their guy hits him with a long pass but he has to slow up cuz the pass is behind him. Well i come from across the rink, line him up, and drill him with probably the best hip check i’ve ever thrown in my life right in front of their bench. The guy was so stunned, he didn’t say a word.

    And the best part…. no penalty on the play. (ref swallowed his whistle on that one)

  122. its glorious afternoon in good ole iowa. the sun is out, the birds are sinning, the squirrels are carcillo’ing, the blog is cheerful!, what a da!. oh wait, drury didnt get bought out. byfuglien all of youse!!!

  123. This organization will always be mediocre, finishing between 7-10 in the conference as long as Dolan is the owner and Sather is the GM, I am confident in stating this, track record speaks for itself but I will still follow the rangers with passion.

  124. omg those birds are dirty!they must be woodpeckers peckin away at the big thick tree trunk. wow, theyreboth givin it hard to that tree. the sap is just flying everywhere!!!

  125. Phlyers Motto: Who Needs [Goalies] Centers!

    Somebody do that but put the strikethrough on goalies.

  126. I figured it out. The Phlyers are going to sign Gilroy and move him to Center. I am a sleuth.

  127. Is Stamkos going to be a Phlyer? Can they even afford to sign anybody? Don’t they only have about $7M in cap space? I guess they could sign him to a back-ended contract?

  128. What kind of code does this forum use? I know if I try some old school BB I will just look like a D*#K

  129. ^maybe we should just all post in wizard text and our eyes will get really strong and super humanly powerful.^

  130. Doodie Machetto on

    you need to put a dash, like if you were making line combos

    Dubi-Artie-Callahan is fine. But if you add a space, you get Dubi -Artie- Callahan.

  131. ORR.

    Just put “-” on each side of the words you want to strikethrough. -See?-

  132. richards is signing with leafs or lightning. we will sign stamkos. remember how we almost got him? lmao. hes good buds with mdz and richards wants 8 years. slats isnt gonna do that. richards is not coming here unless he takes 5 years. slats, if he signed him anything over 5-6 years, i will become a hawk fan and join olga.

  133. Don’t you – cross flyers out –

    Brayden Schenn and Sean Couturier are both young and promising centers.

  134. ^goodbye blog friends. i will speak to you from another location or maybe tomorrow. long live the wizard king.^

  135. Gift of GAB-orik on

    haha… i typed two words… i made one disappear. Weird.





    ^did this already^

    ahh computer fun.

  136. Gift of GAB-orik on

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  137. Gift of GAB-orik on

    ? ? ? ? ? ? • ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ¶ § ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ! ” # $ % & ‘ ( ) * ?

  138. Gift of GAB-orik on

    sorry… i don’t know why they appear as ? marks. They start out as symbols!


  139. Gift of GAB-orik on

    ok ok enough trying to make symbols. they all come out as question marks. @weird@

  140. I used the html code for a heart symbol: & hearts ;

    No space between the & and the ;

  141. there is absolutely nothing better than Chocolate Ganache Cheesecake from Junior’s. Nothing…

    I’m in freaking heaven right now…

  142. Man, you guys need a hobby. Good thing you have this hobby.

    crossing out Dave Klein and Defending the Core cracked me up, though.

  143. Gift of GAB-orik on

    Seeing the names crossed out reminds me of a movie quote…

    ” Man am i glad i called THAT guy! ”


  144. Gift of GAB-orik on

    -rod lurks-
    -a local fan-
    -david klein and his b.s. blog-

    Trolls get Carp’ed.

    Defending the Ban Button : A Carp Story

  145. Gift of GAB-orik on

    Well played Orr!

    You win cheesecake. You just have to go buy it.

    My prizes -rock- suck.

  146. Gift of GAB-orik on

    Perhaps… it would take $1.075 mil as a Q/O. So i guess they don’t want to pay him a million bucks to take dumb penalties and suck.

  147. Gift of GAB-orik on

    Here’s some crazy numbers.

    Currently the Florida Panters have 11 players under contract and $41 million in cap space. And that is WITH B. Campbells $7 mil contract! @WOW!@

    Imagine what Sather would do with that kinda scratch??

    Tallon=Sather 2.0

    Here comes a ridiculous attempt to buy a winning season to get interest in the Panthers down there…

  148. Gift of GAB-orik on

    Florida needs to spend $26 million *just to get to the cap floor*

    I guess they will be, or attempt to be big time players in the FA market. Considering they don’t have anyone left to trade.

  149. Gift of GAB-orik on

    The Panthers will sign B. Richards, Stamkos, Zherdev, Gilroy, Carcillo, and give Grimaldi a max entry level deal.

    Panthers for the Cup!!

  150. Gift of GAB-orik on

    I read somewhere earlier that Stamkos and the Lightning were not close to signing a deal, also, Ibob tweeted that the Islanders were prepared to make a big offer sheet to Stamkos or Doughty.


  151. Gift of GAB-orik on

    not that Stamkos would leave Tampa for the Islanders…. but crazier things have happened when tons of money is involved.

  152. Gift of GAB-orik on

    Manny, i was skeptical for awhile… but the guy had the Carter to Columbus rumors weeks before anything solid came up.

  153. Oh yea. He did. You’re right.

    Islanders are on the brink of doing something insane? Phlyers might be also…? Crazy world.

  154. Gift of GAB-orik on

    Not saying he’s always right… but he does seem to have advanced knowledge of impending deals/trades more often than not.

  155. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    GOOD EVENING KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yay I miss you guys so much!! Things seem to be calming down somewhat so I needed to come back to my Bonehead home!!

    Leaving work early friday to join in the Free Agent Festivities!

    CARP!!!!!!!! When are you gonna do a live chat again!? LOL

    NYR, I almost fell off the chair when I saw Forearmsalik was traded to the Sabres! Hilarious!


    And C3.. muah!

  156. Gift of GAB-orik on

    If Snow gives an offer sheet to Stamkos or Doughty, I will admit he has the stones that Sather evidently lacks in a GM position.

  157. Gift of GAB-orik on


    We welcome you back with open arms the size of Kotalik!

    We miss you as often as Higgins missed the net!

  158. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    Gab, Sathers stones are so old they wore down to pebbles and sand.. sheesh!

  159. man i just read 345 posts. tired.

    no to richards please. in years 4 and 5 it will be a disaster. stamkos 12 yrs 144 mil. i may sell my kid for stamkos

  160. Gift of GAB-orik on

    Ok that experiment didn’t work out.

    seems you can only do @red@ in the text field.

  161. Wicky (Leeloo Dallas mul-ti-pass) on

    Great story and I do not have the art of hip checking down at all!

    What’s up bro?

    Nice work with the mulcher! And thank you!

    Just noticed your post earlier, you are a funny man!


  162. @LINDZO@! How are you, girl? I’m still waiting for you to respond to my FB message, wtb?

  163. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    I just walked in the door 5 minutes ago and replied you KNUCKLEBONEHEAD

  164. Got it…

    You think Slats wlll offer Carcillo 5 year/$25M contract to protect his friend Gaborik?

  165. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    oh damn ilbzo! Delete that last post! The thought of that lump of a turd in a Rangers jersey is just………PUTRID

  166. Gift of GAB-orik on


    someone will wear #91 for the Rangers this season. Just a matter of who….

  167. Gift of GAB-orik on

    I couldn’t accept Carcillo wearing Ranger blue. Same way Brasheeet was never a fit.

    Some guys you just need to hate.

  168. As per waseka (—–>), the Rangers qualified every RFA in Hartford except Soryai and DiDiomete

  169. Gift of GAB-orik on

    Dan Carcillo had 6 points last season.

    Avery put up far better numbers, 24 points total.

  170. Gift of GAB-orik on

    Interesting note on Brad Richards.

    The year before his rookie season with Tampa, he was in QMJHL… 63 games, 71 goals and 115 assists. @186@ points!

    And he was a 3rd round draft pick in 98, had 115-131- and 186 points a season leading to his rookie year with Tampa.

    Since he’s been in the NHL, he’s reached 91 points twice, though averaging about 70 points a season.

    Here’s our next $7 mil a year man!

  171. I would sign Carcillo, even though he’s a carcillo-head…Like Prust, he’s got skill to back it up..

    He can actually put the puck in the net, it’s a bonus to his stirring of the carcillo on the ice…

    He’s good agitator…good for the fourth line over a guy like EC…

  172. – Here’s our next $7 mil a year man! –

    *Here’s our next* @$8@ *mil a year man!*

  173. FAIL.

    I tried to cross out GAB’s estimate…LOL

    I just don’t think B-Money Richard$ is coming here for anything less than $8m/per over at least 5 years….

  174. according to snyrangers blog

    pens and jagr nearing agreement likely by friday

    god damn it. i was hoping wings.

    could you imagine the calls now jagr gets playing wit

  175. Boom Boom Bathgate on

    Re signing Richards being a “done deal,” the Yankees signing Cliff Lee was a “formality,” too. Of course Ranger fans haven’t showered Mrs. Richards with beer hops and a barrage of vulgar language, yet, so stay tuned.

  176. Good for Jagr! I loved him as a Ranger, but he’ll always be a lifelong Penguin. That’s where he should end his career.

    I’ll have to root for the Pens in the playoffs, if NYR don’t go all the way. Sickening as that may be, I’ll just have to endure the horrifically horrific feeling of rooting for some of the guys on that team.

    Also, I hope he has a good season. I’d like him to prove all the “naysayers” wrong.

  177. Boom Boom Bathgate on

    Carcillo could replace Avery, who is off “getting married” somewhere.

  178. orr

    i like you and agree with lots of your comments and jagr was a great ranger however there is no way to root for the pens in the playoffs

  179. Boom Boom Bathgate on

    Sather needs to do the FA-route thing, given his trade acquisitions over the past year. One good one, Erixon, plus seven guys named “Joe,” – Oscar Lindberg, John Mitchell, Bryan McCabe, W. Wolski, Stu Bickel, Todd White, and Matt McCue. Forget the Stanley Cup, these grunts couldn’t raise a dixie cup with four ounces of ginger ale in it.

  180. $$ NYR_FAN $$ Richard$ is coming on

    Sigh…I love Jags…but I loathe the Pens…I wish him the best no matter where he ends up…

    By the way, I could see him and Malkin racking up points together…scary thought…

    I think he will have a good season…70 points wouldn’t be a surprise…on either the Wings or Pens

  181. Carcillo crosses the imaginary line more than Avery does, so Torts would never tolerate him. And isn’t as good a skater as Avery. And probably not as good a teammate. … and I can’t believe I’m defending Avery again.

    Holy carcillo.

    If Jagr goes to the Pens, youse better hope it was the doggy Jagr that quit last time he was there and mailed it in on the Caps.

  182. Maybe I’ll go over to Defending the Core and see what they think about Jagr … oh, wait, they’re talking about the Mets being 5-12.

  183. A Not So Secret Laurel Admirer on

    YES! Jaromir! Jaro! This’ll be awesome! Ill officially be a Pens fan also next year if Jaro goes there. This is the type of hockey news I needed to like hockey again.

    Orrsie – Is there anywhere online that I can watch Weeds season premiere from tonight?

    If nobody has discussed realignment, I read somewhere that they could put the Pens, Wingies, Flyers and Caps in the same division. Thatd be absurd!

  184. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    Wait, if Jagr signs with the Pens, does that mean Tiki follows the Pens this season as well?

    Bring me up to date! LOL

  185. Boom Boom Bathgate on

    MANNY – Baseball needs a salary cap. Imagine the Yankees being cut down to a 100 million dollars payroll? What fun as the pipeline flow of Sabathia’s, Teixiera’s, A-Rod’s, Granderson’s, Burnettes, etc., gets backed-up. Could be some drama, for a change, connected with a baseball season. Just think, right now, for the Yankees not to make the playoffs, they would have to be the fifth-best, or worse team in the A.L. This might happen again, under the present system, about 2075, but don’t bet on it.

  186. A Not So Secret Laurel Admirer on

    Anyone hear the story about Jets WR Braylon Edwards sending 100 students to college on a full scholarship with his own money!!

  187. A Not So Secret Laurel Admirer on

    Huh? I was being friendly and Im already being picked on. As Michael Kay would say, See ya!

  188. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    eesh i must have missed a lot if Carpy’s a man on fire!!


  189. A Not So Secret Laurel Admirer on

    I still cant get over Jaromir! What a guy! He’s so worldly and knowledgeable and dreamy. He’s any man’s and woman’s dream. If we dont win, Id love to see Jaro hoist it again. Would be better hoisting it with the Wingies though. Hockeytown USA could become Jarotown USA!

  190. We started orientation week for the new medical residents today. They’re doing great! They finally figured out where the main hospital bathroom is by the end of the day. They surely will be ready by Friday, lol. Fun time…

  191. A Not So Secret Laurel Admirer on

    And also Edwards wasn’t arrested again. He did, though, get into a small fender bender accident in the last couple weeks. He’s safe and sound, though.

  192. A Not So Secret Laurel Admirer on

    Nite ‘heads! Money well spent by Canucks. Wish we could get the same type deal for same type talent. Hatty?

  193. LinCalPrustBoylahan on


    we need to discuss the lack of a Nashville game this year.

  194. OMG!!! Dude!!! That barking cat video is unreal!!! I can’t stop laughing! So weird! How did it learn to bark? lol


  195. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    Carp’s a man possessed! I imagine him sittin there with this evil genius grin on… his brow all knotted, just waitin for some wanker to tick him off lol

  196. LINDA!!!

    I saw that and immediately pouted about it. I also pouted about when the Rangers home opener is. I would just about kill to be there this year.

  197. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    speaking of all the missing boneheads from earlier

    where’s Salty? where’s JB? where’s Pavel? where’s Staal Wart and Shoryuken??

  198. LOL. I can see him stroking a cat while waiting, too. (Like the evil dude in the Gadget cartoons whose name is escaping me)

  199. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    Mickey, Christopher is still going to head to Nashville for a game, so are you still up for it even if it’s not the Rangers?

  200. $$ NYR_FAN $$ Richard$ is coming on

    wicky…I’m sorry aboot Bieksa…I was surprised he didn’t get more $$…he should have been Biek$a…

  201. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    i’ve been calling him KEVIN BIEKSA FUTURE RANGER for about 2 months. I even had a nickname for him!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!! Bastages!

  202. just getting over getting sick
    and i have to see the
    news that Jagr
    may be going back to the pens.

    sorry ORR!!!
    pens are one of my ABSOLUTE enemy teams
    and if Jags returns there
    then that’s that.

    not gonna cheer him in points
    not gonna cheer him to win a Cup
    not going to care to see anything helpful
    with hotdog lips on board.
    just the way it is

  203. $$ NYR_FAN $$ Richard$ is coming on

    LOL! What was the nickname, Lin? I thought he would at least test the free agency market…

  204. Sure, I’m up for a Nashville trip.

    You still planning on that one thing you asked me about?

  205. Jagr on the Pens will be interesting. How soon til he goes off on hot dog lips? 2 months?

  206. Linda!!! Sup guuurl?!

    Yeah it will be very hard to cheer for Jagr if he signs with Pissburgh… I will be very VERY upset!

  207. It’s obvious Richards is coming. He supposedly invoked his NTC to block a trade of his rights to the Leafs because he is going to sign with the Rangers. He doesn’t need to play any other team off the Rangers because he will get top dollar from us regardless.

    Drury 2.0? I hope not.

  208. How is that breaking news. I mean, we ALL know he’s coming, its just a matter of dollars and years.

  209. the league told LA they could not buy out Brule because he was injured, supposedly still suffering from a concussion. thus, LA backed out of taking him from Edm in the Smyth trade, and took Fraser instead, another guy that they could buy out or dump to another team.

    this means that Drury is likely to have to go on LTIR to take him off the cap. they will not be able to buy him out if he claims to be injured.

  210. Drury is massively byfugliening us over. If the man is never going to play another game again he should have the decency to retire. Naslund knew how to do it and he was here for one year. Drury was a Ranger fan since he was like 5 years old and he got to be “captain” of the team. I’m just sayin’.

  211. JimboWoodside on

    “List of friends on this blog:

    “List of friends on this blog:


    What did I do to be left from this list? :-(

  212. You’re there, Jimbo, you’re there!

    You were not purposely left out, everyone likes you!

  213. wicky(grating PIBG)© (Non visor wearing male, 26, holder of 5 LLPs!!) on

    thanks, I really would have loved to see him here, but IMHO he took less money and wanted to stay with the nucks. He’s pretty loyal to them and they gave him an opportunity when he felt he wasn’t going to get one.

    Well, 2 or the 3 d men I was hoping we would sign (not all of them, just one) are gone..

    excellent mulching!

  214. wicky(grating PIBG)© (Non visor wearing male, 26, holder of 5 LLPs!!) on

    I was hoping for bieksa or regehr, but both are obviously now gone, my last hope is obrien!

  215. wicky(grating PIBG)© (Non visor wearing male, 26, holder of 5 LLPs!!) on

    funny though LW! You really love that guy don’t you!

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