From the Rangers:
RANGERS MAKE SIX SELECTIONS IN 2011 NHL DRAFT
Blueshirts select 4 forwards and 2 defensemen
New York, June 25, 2011 – New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather, along with Director of Player Personnel, Gordie Clark, oversaw the club’s activity in the 2011 NHL Entry Draft on Friday, June 24 and Saturday, June 25 at Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul, Minnesota. The club, which held six picks in the draft, selected four forwards and two defensemen.
The Rangers began the draft Friday by selecting forward J.T. Miller with the 15th overall pick. The 6-1, 200-pounder led Team USA in scoring with 13 points in six tournament contests en route to capturing the gold medal at the 2011 IIHF U-18 World Junior Championship in Germany. He was selected by tournament coaches as Team USA’s top player during the elite tournament after leading Team USA in points and assists (nine), and finishing second on the team in goals (four) and plus/minus rating (plus-eight). Miller skated in 48 games with the U.S. National Under-18 Team (USHL) last season, registering 11 goals and 26 assists for 37 points, along with 80 penalty minutes. He established USHL career-highs in games played, assists, points, and penalty minutes, and ranked third on the team in points, and second in assists and penalty minutes. The East Palestine, Ohio native entered the 2011 NHL Entry Draft as the third-highest ranked U.S.-born skater and 23rd overall among North American skaters in the final Central Scouting Rankings.
The second day of the draft began with a trade for New York, sending forward Evgeny Grachev to St. Louis in exchange for a third round choice (72nd overall). The Rangers selected Edina Hornets (High-MN) forward Steven Fogarty with the pick. Fogarty led the Hornets with career-highs in goals (23), points (40), plus/minus rating (plus-14), game-winning goals (four), and shorthanded goals (two), tied for second with a career-high in assists (17), and third in power play goals (three). He recorded a career-high, nine multi-point performances, including three hat tricks. He notched a career-high, four goals, and added two assists to tie his career-high with six points on January 27 vs. Hopkins. The Chambersburg, Pennsylvania native also led the Hornets with 11 points (three goals, eight assists) in six playoff games en route to a fourth-place finish in the High-MN Class AA State Tournament.
In the fourth round at the 106th position, the Rangers tabbed Winnipeg, Manitoba native Michael St. Croix from the WHL’s Edmonton Oil Kings. St. Croix established career-highs in games played (68), goals (27), assists (48), points (75), power play goals (nine), penalty minutes (48), and plus/minus rating (plus-28) last season. He led the Oil Kings in assists, ranked second in points and power play goals, and third in goals and plus/minus rating. The 5-11, 179-pounder was ranked as high as 36th overall among North American skaters in the Central Scouting midterm rankings.
The Blueshirts held a pair of picks in the fifth round, selecting forward Shane McColgan with the 134th overall choice and defenseman Samuel Noreau with the 136th overall selection. McColgan registered 21 goals and 45 assists for 66 points, along with 62 penalty minutes in 67 games with the Kelowna Rockets (WHL) last season. He led Kelowna in points, ranked second in assists and fifth in goals. Noreau tallied 10 points (five goals, five assists) and 141 penalty minutes in 67 games with Baie-Comeau Drakkar (QMJHL) last season. The 6-5, 215-pounder ranked seventh in the league and second on Baie-Comeau in penalty minutes. New York closed out their 2011 draft by selecting Trencin Jr. (Slovakia-JR.) defenseman Peter Ceresnak in the sixth round (172nd overall). The Rangers acquired the pick earlier in the day from the Nashville Predators in exchange for a sixth round selection in the 2012 NHL Entry Draft.
Overall, the Rangers selected four forwards and two defensemen, three from Canadian junior hockey leagues, two from U.S. hockey leagues and one from a European hockey league, and three Americans, two Canadians and one European. The average weight of the Rangers draft picks was 195 pounds, while the average height of the 2011 New York draft class was 6’1”.
New York Rangers 2011 NHL Entry Draft Selections
Name Round Overall 2010-11 Team Pos. Ht. Wt. Born Birthplace
J.T. Miller 1 15 USA U-18 (USHL) C 6’1” 200 3/14/93 East Palestine, OH
Steve Fogarty 3 72 Edina HS (High-MN) C 6’3” 200 4/19/93 Chambersburg, PA
Michael St. Croix 4 106 Edmonton (WHL) C 5’11” 179 4/10/93 Winnipeg, MB
Shane McColgan 5 134 Kelowna (WHL) RW 5’9” 165 1/1/93 Torrace, CA
Samuel Noreau 5 136 Baie-Comeau (QMJHL) D 6’5” 215 1/31/93 Montreal, QC
Peter Ceresnak 6 172 Trencin Jr. (Slovakia-JR.) D 6’3” 209 1/26/93 Trencin, SVK
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From the NHL:
NOTES FROM THE 2011 NHL ENTRY DRAFT
ST. PAUL, Minn. (June 25, 2011)— A total of 210 players from 14 countries were selected at the 2011 NHL Entry Draft, which concluded today at Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul. Following is a breakdown of Entry Draft selections by birthplace:
Canada 79
United States 64
Sweden 28
Finland 9
Czech Republic 8
Russia 8
Slovakia 4
Germany 2
Norway 2
Switzerland 2
Denmark 1
France 1
Lithuania 1
Ukraine 1
TOTAL 210
TRADES, JUNE 24 AND 25
June 24: Colorado traded D John-Michael Liles to Toronto for Boston’s 2nd-round pick in the 2012 Entry Draft (previously acquired).
June 24: Minnesota traded D Brent Burns and its 2nd-round pick in the 2012 Entry Draft to San Jose for RW Devin Setoguchi, C Charlie Coyle and San Jose’s 1st-round pick in 2011 (28th overall).
June 24: Chicago traded LW Troy Brouwer to Washington for Washington’s 1st-round pick in the 2011 Entry Draft (26th overall).
June 24: Anaheim traded its 1st-round pick in the 2011 Entry Draft (22nd overall) to Toronto for Boston’s 1st-round pick in 2011 (previously acquired, 30th overall) and Toronto’s 2nd-round pick in 2011 (39th overall).
June 24: Detroit traded its 1st-round pick in the 2011 Entry Draft (24th overall) to Ottawa for Ottawa’s 2nd-round pick in 2011 (35th overall) and Chicago’s 2nd-round pick in 2011 (previously acquired, 48th overall).
June 25: Chicago traded D Brian Campbell to Florida for LW Rostislav Olesz.
June 25: Calgary traded D Robyn Regehr, RW Ales Kotalik and its 2nd-round pick in the 2012 Entry Draft to Buffalo for D Chris Butler and C Paul Byron.
June 25: Florida traded Montreal’s 2nd-round pick in the 2011 Entry Draft (previously acquired, 47th overall) to San Jose for San Jose’s 2nd-round pick in 2011 (59th overall) and 3rd-round pick in 2012.
June 25: Columbus traded LW Nikita Filatov to Ottawa for Ottawa’s 3rd-round pick in the 2011 Entry Draft (66th overall).
June 25: Vancouver traded its 2nd-round pick in the 2011 Entry Draft (60th overall) to Minnesota for Minnesota’s 3rd-round pick in 2011 (71st overall) and 4th-round pick in 2011 (101st overall).
June 25: NY Rangers traded C Evgeny Grachev to St. Louis for St. Louis’ 3rd-round pick in the 2011 Entry Draft (72nd overall).
June 25: Montreal traded its 3rd-round pick in the 2011 Entry Draft (78th overall) to Winnipeg for Winnipeg’s 4th-round pick in 2011 (97th overall) and Montreal’s 4th-round pick in 2011 (previously acquired, 108th overall).
June 25: Nashville traded its 3rd-round pick in the 2011 Entry Draft (82nd overall) to Los Angeles for Los Angeles’ 6th-round pick in 2011 (170th overall) and Toronto’s 3rd-round pick in 2012 (previously acquired).
June 25: New York Islanders traded D Bruno Gervais to Tampa Bay for future considerations.
June 25: San Jose traded its 4th-round pick in the 2011 Entry Draft (119th overall) to Winnipeg for Carolina’s 5th-round pick in 2011 (previously acquired, 133rd overall) and Calgary’s 7th-round pick in 2011 (previously acquired, 194th overall).
June 25: Toronto traded its 6th-round pick in the 2011 Entry Draft (160th overall) to Anaheim for Anaheim’s 6th-round pick in 2012.
June 25: Nashville traded its 6th-round pick in the 2011 Entry Draft (172nd overall) to NY Rangers for the Rangers’ 6th-round pick in 2012.
June 25: Phoenix traded its 7th-round pick in the 2011 Entry Draft (201st overall) to Tampa Bay for C Marc-Antoine Pouliot.
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Good morning, boneheads!
Geez, it’s been here for an hour, wake up already!
huh? what? nothing here. goin’ back to bed
Here you go, folks! Drury may actually agree to buyout:
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/drury_may_take_buyout_lEInicbvpT1YdKS6oivJSJ
One thing LB is wrong about is that Drury doesn’t have to be placed on waivers prior to the buyout because of his NMC. He needs to be offered the waiver option, and if he refuses, he can be bought out.
And Cam Hope is leaving? I hope Slats finds someone who is a good capologist…
Great, get rid of one stupid contract (Drury’s) to sign another. (Richards). The insanity keeps on going.
And a little glimpse into what to expect from new CBA. Be careful, Sather:
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/thinking_cap_xG4wK8j0VgDW8UcsIK9pNP
Good morning, Sally!
Good morning, Carp!
Pride parade!
Carp are you going to live blog the pride parade?
Please Glen, No Brad Richards…
Just saying it’s relevant….I mean…...Sean Avery will probably be there.
Good morning ‘heads!!
Ok i’m going back to doing nothing now :)
I am reposting an honorable post by LIQUID: ORR, you spend a tremendous amount of time on this blog. I am guessing you are in your 20’s…...You should put the same amount of passion and time into something more constructive like schooling or a career. Thank goodness the internet was not around at the height of my NY Rangers hang-up/obsessive years (1978-1996)...........I will always remember my Dad yelling at me to do my homework….all i cared about is if bobby carpenter would be the answers to all our prayers with ridley and miller going to the caps….lol…...or if johnny orgrodnick would put the puck in the net rather than hitting freakin’ post every game.
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TROLL!
Who the EFF is Liquid?
St. Croix and McColgan were very good picks. Miller may be good as well, but NYR surely could have traded down and got some assets before picking him. THN had him going late 2nd.
More of this today? BORING.
Not you BC… i was referring to the other nonsense going on this morning.
Sorry, Gab.
Manny, I will not be live blogging the parade. not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Paul Kariya is a Japansy lol
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Tim Erixon was our real 1st round pick this year.
it’s early wanda, give it a rest!!
Morning ILB and all!!
I think brook’s wrong about the blackhawks in his article, didn’t look like they spent too wisely to get a cup (but they did get a cup)!
I’m still hoping for bieksa or obrein on or after 01JUL11.
In all reality we are a more physical D corps away from being the bruins.
I’d sign richards (brad) if possible (he makes guys around him better).
That being said, adding rupp and laich would also be good.
of course richards also addresses the PPQB issue.
can’t wait for prospect camp and waivers tomorrow!
RESIGN FEDS FOR 2 YEARS PLEASE!!
Hope Mess takes job!
Manny?
Carp,
no need to apologize to me, posters are responsible for their own content. I just think sometimes, some people need to put the ego’s aside, and take the high road, instead of continually dragging down the conversation with veiled insults, direct insults, and mocking other people’s opinions.
Blogging at it’s core is about sharing opinions, and prompting discussion from a wide audience. We should remember that.
I realize I too at times have been guilty of being condescending, and making veiled insults. So i posted a general apology if anyone has been offended or insulted by some of my posts… and i continually work on self improvement and being more open minded to different opinions on topics.
I am by no means perfect, and i’m not trying to preach to everyone here, but conversation goes much better when differering opinions can be discussed in an insult free environment, and where facts and stats dominate the conversation… not who is or isn’t a troll, and who’s this and that.
Fact is, I enjoy this blog way more often than not.
In general, most of the bloggers here are polite, and byfuglien funny day in and day out, and i really do enjoy checking in here and F5’ing throughout the day.
( I’m trying to win the Bonehead Lady Byng this year! )
I’ll never win a lady byng, but nice post gabs!
carp
did you get my email?
did hrasko get picked by anyone in the draft?
ha
Gift I would also like to add that blogging at its core is about sharing opinions without the needless tasteless and ungentlemanly posts.
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mirror time
David,
agreed. But this is tame on our blog compared to what I see people post on for example, news articles on the NY Post website. Some people are just disgusting. Racist, homophobic, classless jerks.
It really is awful.
But back to your point, yes, no need for tasteless and ungentlemanly posts.
oh and wicky…
I wear a visor :)
Have a wildcard game tonight for the last playoff berth in my division. The only part that hurts is that it’s at the NYI practice rink… I have to skate over that logo. Maybe i’ll spit on it haha.
Feels like NYR game 82. Win and in baby! Wish me luck :)
Gab, very well said, and obviously I (and most Boneheads) agree.
wick, yes, I did. thank you.
David, how about starting by cleaning up your screen name?
gabs
best of luck bro! and yes, big loogie on the logo!! contact league?
Gift Good luck in your endeavor tonight.
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carp
no, thank you!
I had forgotten that was still there. We can all lead by example and clean up the ungentlemanly posts together.
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thanks! um… well contact is a loose term in my league haha.
The refs allow some contact, and you can bang around in front of the net and in corners, Just can’t open ice hit someone, or take a big run at them.
Depending on the refs that night, we know how much we can get away with.
I respect your move David.
gabs
good luck again!
Hmm, I wonder who Liquid really is….
As for Dreary, I wont believe he’s bought out, until he’s actually bought out!
I guess more cap room = more money for Richards. Yay?
@helenenothelen: Ryan Smyth to Edmonton for Colin Fraser and a 7th round pick in 2012. Done. Over. Official
Thanks Wick!
I’m pumped…. and semi-useless on game days. I can’t focus on anything but hockey.
Nice move by LA to get Colin Fraser out of the deal rather than Brule.. while Fraser may never see ice time in LA, he’s still capable of centering the fourth line if need be, and his cap hit is more friendly.
ORR would be wrong in assuming that I am also LIQUID. ORR being wrong, par for the course.
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They almost traded Smyth for a 7th, according to the least annoying TSN guy. The Oilers wanted to dump a contract.
Wait, isn’t Frasier the guy that was “sucker punched” by Avery?
I think that was Smid, Orr.. I don’t remember.
Oh, right! I got it mixed up. Frasier is the guy Avery hit, right before Shmeed challenged him.
Mr. Klein: I appreciate your admonition to someone here, as regards youth being a time for serious and academic matters, with, ideally and practically, less time devoted to sports blogging.
There is a good, solid answer to sports obsessiveness, which I define as the subordinating of all other considerations to a sports fanaticism. And that is to take one’s passion, for whichever sport, to the level of pursuing that passion as a career field. So that, initially, an emphasis on education is mandatory. If you want to call the games, play-by-play, to have any chance to become the next Marv Albert, you attend the Syracuse School of Radio or Journalism, or whatever it is called. You want to become a G.M. you take serious courses in college and then get an M.B.A. or a law degree. You have a vision of becoming a sports team owner, you pursue the high tech/entreprenurial road such as Mark Cuban has done, so diligently and successfully. You want to own a hockey club, and/or a basketball team, you first make your mark in commercial real estate investing, so that one day, you have the leverage to buy out Jack Kent Cooke, both his teams and his L.A. Forum. Or, as a child, you start collecting rare coins to such an extent that the day comes when you own a private membership Beverly Hills art gallery, plus the local NHL hockey team.
So you are right, a kid can get bogged (blogged) down in his monomaniac obsession with sports, but to his future entrenchment as a real “player” in our society, not just as a cheap seats fan. It all comes down to the vision he has for his own life, and begs the question – does he even have one?
Wow. Kings moves Smyth and his 6 million bucks out. Could they really go after BR too ?? I mean with Kopi, MR, Brown, Stoll, and that Lokinov kid, do they really need another Center??
Deaf ears(blind eyes) today?
REGRESSION.
I respectfully request that you read earlier posts from today, and if you are not going to offer something to further hockey or hockey related discussion, that you please refrain from engaging in regressive behavior.
Rome wasn’t built in a day, but it only takes one day to burn.
Somerset,
every time i see you post, i think of the movie Se7en (seven). Great movie. Great cast.
Boom I want to thank you for your appreciation, but I cannot take the credit. All credit must go to LIQUID for his noble and honorable admonition. I do not think ORR is a sports fanatic. In fact, I do not think ORR has any devotion to the Rangers. In short, ORR is the class clown always seeking attention so to answer your question, I do not think ORR has one.
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What’s in the box?
Somer, they still need to lock up Doughty, which will cost a lot. I don’t know how much they’ll have left after that.
Check this out…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oHSV_xVJjnM#at=66
This is so fugged up!
Lady Byng…what a strange award to give to a hockey player. Here, this award is for you for being a lady like throughout the season!
It is quite the contradicting award.
Lady Byng for Gentlemanly conduct??
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Lady Byng spelled backwards is Euro Pansy. Weird.
I think Lady Byng award has gender confusion problem.
But hey…now in NYC Lady can marry Byng ;p
GofGab …
Thats where it comes from. One of alltime fav movies. Freeman & Spacey … How can you go wrong ??
Orr … That video awesomely horrible to watch. That kid is gonna shoot people from a tall building one day. It fits the “whats in the box” comment though … nicely done
how could the islanders trade bruno gervais? he’s 26 years old!!!
ORR…I have posted here many times over the years. Not as much last season. I did watch the majority of the 2010 -11 Rangers games though. It was a so-so season again of mediocrity. In regard to my post to you, in no way was I looking to diss you or start a rally of other posters to pile on top and break your onions…...I was simply writing that as advice, as your commitment to the Rangers is extreme with the amount of precious time you are on here writing about them or defending yourself against other bloggers. Basically you remind me of me when I was younger. Just with experience i can tell you that there are more important things you can be doing with your time. That’s all. There is an old saying, “Don’t learn from your own mistakes, learn from others.”........
That video shows what mental child abuse looks like. Except in this case it’s done to entertain the parents. Horrible.
” What sick ridiculous puppets we are, and what a gross little stage we dance on ”
” Only in a world this sick could you call them innocent and keep a straight face. ”
Netflix priorities: Slapshot, Se7en.
indeed. That kid is too young to understand a joke or prank, and instead is humiliated and left to sit in anguish while he gets laughed at.
That is not humor, that is mental child abuse. Nice lesson to teach a young kid who doesn’t understand the world yet.
Oh and btw, I hope that is Bobby Orr (maybe top 3 ever to play the game of hockey?) that you have moniker-ed yourself afterwards and not that circle jerk ex nobody, Colton Orr. If it is good ole’ Colton…then atleast consider a change to like a Prust or perhaps Cally….If you wanna go a little old school, maybe a Gravey or Kocur…and if you wanna go pre-historic, perhaps McPhee or fossil time with Fotiu…...lol Colton Orr was garbage for this team except when he knocked out Todd Fedoruk of the Flyers….that did rule. $-)
Precious time? You realize it takes literally seconds to type something, and click “submit comment”? It also takes literally seconds to read a comment. Maybe it doesn’t for you, but it does for most people.
Somer, LOL! That’s how it starts!
Some say that the reason the parents did that was because the kid took a peak at his presents before Christmas. Still a pretty fugged up thing to do.
“how could the islanders trade bruno gervais? he’s 26 years old!!!”
Maybe they’re making a roster spot for Gilroy?
Hello, boneheads….
A peek, exqueeze me.
Actually, it is Colton Orr, Liquid. Is your moniker a tribute to urine, liquified semen? Or maybe something else?
LOL! Why would I consider a change, just because you don’t like him?
High road? Anyone?
Again, ungentlemanly conduct on the part of ORR. “Liquified semen” I feel horrified for the good ladies of the blog that are subjected to read such ungentlemanly comments. Where is our fearless blog captain to quash such comments?
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LIQUID That was such a respectful post by you. I am disgusted that you had to read such a distasteful response.
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ORR, actually the name “LIQUID” is due to me working hard for the past 10+ years and making money. I simply gave you some Ranger brotherly advice and you come back at me with stats on how fast it takes to read and write on a blog and then proceed to use my moniker in a childish and juvenille manner.
Well, good luck, buddy boy…..I hope your campagin to show everyone how smart you are here on the Rangers LoHud works out for you. I am sure the young ladies of this world are knocking down your door and the top colleges/employers want a piece of you with your dedication.
The young ladies of this world are knocking down ORR with pepper spray and serving ORR with restraining orders.
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Don’t get on my case, just because it takes you a half hour to read, and another hour hour to type. You must be one of those audio book lovers. That’s a bad habit. As for the typing, take a computer class, or something.
LOL! Yesterday when I said “we don’t need anymore dopey Rangers fan”, truer words could not have been spoken.
Goodbye high road, and goodbye blog for today.
I’ll come back tomorrow after the children get put to bed and the adults come back around.
Maturity… spoken about, but not always followed.
I think it is ORR that needs a computer class. “another hour hour to type” “anymore dopey Rangers fan*s*”
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yawn…
more like…... ZzzzzzzzZzzzzzzzz
Europansies
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Definitely a slow hockey news day. Reminds me of the (sick) joke: “Good news, bad news. The bad news is the Titanic is sinking; the good news is that back home, tomorrow will not be a slow news day.”
Klein, can you give it a rest? We are here to make friends, and chat about life & hockey, and laugh, none of us are here to make “internet enemies”... I don’t take this blog for granted
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So, I missed the NHL Draft because I was at a wedding out of town all weekend…but thank Avery (God) for smartphones!!
The Grachev trade is not good for the Rangers…but it is great for Grachev as he will probably make the Blues next season and now has a fresh start. I would not at all be surprised if he became an impact NHL player. The Blues need a big power-winger after trading Brad Boyes to the Baby Buffaloes…Grachev is a defensively responsible player (with huge offensive upside) and can play at the NHL level. Even though he didn’t put up points with the NYR, he didn’t look out of place in his 8 game stint…
Grachev is a good hockey player with excellent raw talent. We should have been able to at least acquire a legit prospect for him…I wonder if we could have got Filatov
Anyway, I hope this doesn’t come back to bite us if/when Grachev puts up a 35-goal season…
I’m not going to lose sleep over it, but he is definitely too young to be considered a “bust”...
Check out our “bust”, JT Miller…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUAmSoo3gBk
Not to take sides, but Orr had been on pretty good behavior lately until people started poking him with sticks. If you can’t take his humor with a grain of salt, then just ignore his posts. He brings a lot to the table, and he is not looking for attention. Again, I don’t agree with everything he does, but geez.
Stop the personal stuff, all of youse.
NYR_FAN,
I hope so too… though i’m leaning more towards him not making the Blues right away… though it’s certainly possible.
8 Games in the NHL, zero points, -3 rating.
Not great numbers in the AHL. Maybe a change of scenery lights a fire under his butt for a bit… but lazy players and guys who make excuses don’t change… only the circumstances around them change.
Lazy Russians… Zherdev, Filatov, Kovalev(though to be fair, Kovalev has much more talent and better hands than Grachev)
Winners make the best of opportunities given them. Losers whine about how it’s not fair, and how it’s not their fault.
Or to quote Sean Connery from the movie ‘The Rock’—-”Winners go home and (get intimate with) the prom queen”
When my daughter reads the blog and gets offended by the ungentlemanly like posts, it becomes personal. I should not have to enter Rangers Lohud into a block list so that my daughter cannot visit it. P.S. Since when is poking with sticks an excuse for offensive language towards women or men. That does not add up.
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I am with Carp. stop all the personal stuff. It’s a BLOG. If you don’t enjoy it here you can start your own blog….or maybe you already have one that hasn’t been updated in MONTHS. So you know…..
Stop fighting!
Carp,
Personally, i would love to see our personnel stop the personal attacks. It doesn’t personify the true purpose of this professionally promoted page.
Please promote proper professionalism when presenting your purported postion.
Please! ;)
we can go around all day. Or we can just stop it.
Since when is making excuses about other people’s behavior an excuse to poke people with sticks?
And yes, people’s sons and daughters shouldn’t have to read ungentlemanly posts that are offensive to women.
P.S. You have to click a link to read comments. That is also done optionally, so neither you, nor your daughters, or anyone elses brother, sister, cousin, niece, or nephew HAS to read anything.
That being said. Clean it up boys and girls. And Manny, Orr, and others, PLEASE stop the inflammitory remarks. No blame, no finger pointing, just please… knock it the hell off.
NOTHING gets accomplished while everyone else is busy placing blame.
LOOK AT YOURSELF, AND WHAT YOU CAN DO BETTER TO IMPROVE THE ATMOSPHERE.
Carp
Where is your mulcher? LOL!
This doesn’t have to resemble a 3rd grade classroom.
And people call themselves adults and tell other people how they should act? Laughable.
Thanks, Carp!
Mind your p’s and p’s, Gab.
We’ve haven’t had luck with Russian players the last few years. Frolov, Lisin, Kalinin, Zherdev, Grachev, Cherepanov [for different reasons]. I’m probably forgetting others.
Artie might be the best one we’ve had in a while. Feds is good too.
Wicky!
Orr… just making sure i dot my p’s and cross my p’s!
For the record, I’ve been a good boy :)
ORR,
Tyutin was nothing special, but he wasn’t that bad.
Gift Criticizing other’s behavior on a family blog is not poking people with sticks. P.S. Reading comments is something my daughter enjoys, you know, being a RANGERS FAN. To repeat, I should not have to place Rangers Lohud on a block list to prevent her from reading offensive language towards men or women, or comments that involve banging women or liquified semen. I feel that is not much to ask. If Carp and the ladies of the blog are comfortable with such demeaning language…
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...shouldn’t have to put it on block, but that is a decision i leave you to make on your own.
And criticizing someone’s behavior is absolutely 100% poking people with sticks. Since you had a disguised reference to male genitals and Orr in a demeaning manor in your own moniker.
So by initiating, participating, and resonding to other people’s behavior on this family blog in a negative fashion yourself, wouldn’t your daughter read the very type of language you are saying she shouldn’t have to read?
Now we can nitpick, and you can tell me you never mentioned liquified you know what… But what if your daughter asked you ” Daddy what does orr is a carcillo sucker mean? ”
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Gab, agree with most of what you said re: Grach…
I just think he needs to play…It’s funny, I thought he looked better in camp 2 years ago, when he was straight out of the OHL. There was serious talk of him possibly making the team as he had a good pre-season…It makes you wonder if his confidence was hurt by it and that he didnt want to play in the AHL, and if that’s the case, then I’m not sad to see him go. Who needs a another Euro(pansy) headcase?
i’m with you Fan,
I think he got in his own head, and a change of scenery might very well be a good thing for him. I don’t think he’s a terrible player… just couldn’t handle the hype put on him coming out of the OHL.
Oh yeah, I forgot aboot Tyutin. He was good. Aside from icing the puck on that play that led to Drearys 7.7 game tying goal. Excluding that, he was a solid d-man.
He, and Girardi made a good pair.
Actually, I might be wrong on the icing play, it might have been Nylander. I can’t remember. I try not to…
I think Grachev can be an above average player… but i don’t know if he will be ‘good’, and certainly don’t think he will be great. Hasn’t shown anything in 2 years, not a good sign.
LOL orr. I was in Oswego when that went down. Too close to Buffalo! Good thing i had plenty of booze around to soften the pain. I try to forget it also!
What little I saw of Grachev I was not impressed. He did nothing. I didn’t see him play in the AHL, but the guy was supposed to be a scorer and he didn’t exactly tear up the AHL. I don’t see trading him as being a bad thing. Maybe under some different coaching he becomes a serviceable player, but the odds are against him.
Gift Carcillo is not a curse word. It is accepted practice. Constructive criticism is not poking people with sticks Your analogy is a fail. P.S. Blocking the site is not a decision that should be left to me to make. Instead, the decision to halt the offensive language is a decision that our fearless blog captain should make, and should make without hesitation. I have read on many occasions our fearless blog captain take others to task for much less than the offensive language that ORR uses.
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Alright kiddies, i’m outta here. Got a BBQ to host, and then of course my win-and-in hockey game tonight, Hopefully i have good news to report tomorrow, and i can go Gaborik of 2 seasons ago on them tonight!
G’nite ‘heads!
carcillo is not a curse word, and yes the subsitution is accepted practice, except you intend the word to mean what we all know you meant.
So your excuse is a fail.
And yes, blocking the site from your own computer is YOUR choice. Reading the comments is your choice. Replying to a post is your choice.
It’s rare that a 3rd rounder becomes an NHL player anyway… – LOL! It was Nylander! He was awful on that play…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYh4WUqfg1U
(DISCLAIMER: You may want to mute the audio)
Can we ban Klein so I don’t have to scroll trough his whinning every day? I get very offended by it…
Klein, before you showed up this blog was fine and it will be just as fine w/o you.
dont mess with ORR
P.S. Klein…don’t you have your own blog to go to complain? Beat it bro…
NHL looking to realign for the 2012-13 season.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6706113
Don’t mess with the bull, or you’ll get the horns! – The Breakfast Club
Since we all have lunch competitions, I guess that would make us “The Lunch Club”?
NYR, ugh, it still stings watching it again! Those words will forever haunt me!
“Scoooooooooooore….Buffalo….scoooooooooore! Chris..Druuuuuuuryyyyy! Who else? Who else? Chris Drury ties it with 7.7 seconds to gooo! Oh brother!”
sheesh…can’t take the language don’t log onto the site. Kind of like don’t show up to an ice rink if you expect the things the fans(and players) say to be PG. But to pine on about it like this pisses me off. I can take some of the friendly banter here, but the debate over language? Please…
On Grachev: Any guy who asks for a trade because of Gernander isn’t worth his salt. Period. That guy is an incredible coach and has done wonders for the organization. I saw a bit of Grachev last winter and he did look decent at times. But his problem is he refuses to use his size and he refuses to dig deep in the corners. That could come with time. But without those traits, I seriously doubt his prospects in the NHL. He obviously didn’t want to learn much from Gernander. I can’t see that changing in St. Louis. I was against the trade from the outset, but after reading Sather’s comments, good riddance. Hope it works out for him, but I won’t hold my breath for him to become a 35-goal scorer.
Instead of attempting to clean up the offensive language on the blog or responding to my valid concerns in a reasonable manner, you opt mock me and ask for my banning…
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phil This is a site run by a prestigious newspaper. The offensive language frequently seen on the blog is not something Gannett would be happy with.
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I’m sick of this troll – he was spamming the blog without asking permission from Carp to publicize his blog here, he was called on it, and he went away mad.
Now he’s back, and nitpicking anything he can here, just to make himself annoying – I see little evidence that anyone here cares about him, his blog, or his opinions. Now he’s just acting like a troll.
Is obvious trolling permitted on this board now? If so, isn’t it a policy here NOT to “feed the trolls”?
The success or failure of this draft boils down to Tim Erixon. Having read much information about Erixon, I think Erixon can become a solid player for the Rangers in the very near future.
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Klein
You have contributed obsolutely nothing to this blog…So banning you would be a response in a reasonable manner.
Jimbo I am not a troll. I do not like the offensiveness of some of the posts and want to help clean it up so it is more enjoyable for myself and for all. CCCP I have contributed by posting opinions about the Rangers organization. Is banning me a reasonable response because you disagree with my opinions?
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Jimbo, exactly, there’s no sense in feeding the troll.
He’s like a more trollish version of Tiki. But, at least with Tiki, once in a blue moon, you could talk to him, until he shoots himself in the foot, which he always did.
Klein
And going after a regular, long time poster just because you don’t agree with him is ok? Seem hypocritical to me…
Troll-One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks and irritates others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark such an argument via the use of anything with no substance or relevance to back them up.
As long as you engage in any discussion, he will stick around. He contributes zip! He knows as much about hockey as my Yorkie. Probably less, because Casey watches every game with me. He will use anything- he will offend Orr, stick it to Carp ( directly or indirectly) Just to continue his bull carcillo.
DFTT!
CCCP I do not like the offensive language. I do not think that the offensive language should be tolerated. I do not think Gannett would disagree with myself on that. That was not a good analogy.
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Carp, what happen to the letter “B” between the two “T”s? It’s a good thing I didn’t insert “F”, even though it would’ve been more precise….
ilb I am not a troll. I am a Rangers fan like you. Would you want your daughter reading posts that are offensive towards women?
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Grachev’s situation isn’t that complex to me. They probably gave up on him too early, yes. But he wanted out. There is no reason to keep him, if that’s the case. He certainly didn’t show enough to be earn an NHL spot yet. He doesn’t want to be here- Do svidaniya!
99.9% of people are fine with the language on here. You seem to be the only one picking fights, which kind of does make you look like a troll.
CCCP, please…
Sorry…no more troll feeding!
The second article by LB I posted at 9:37 am is very interesting. The new CBA will be a tough one to iron out. The salary cap obviously didn’t do anything- plenty of team can not financially reach the floor. It is feasible that players will have to take less than 50% of gross starting next year. Some sort of rollback again seems inevitable. Long term contracts may become even more detrimental to any team. The more I think about, the more it is obvious that Ed Snider got rid of those two contracts, in part, to prepare himself for a new CBA. If anyone has an inside track in NHL, it’s him.
Dave, I’ve been doing this for almost three years, I think. Where this blog is now from where it was … we’ve taken enormous steps in removing curse words, inappropriate behavio(u)r, and in banning undesirables and imposters. At the cost, by the way, of a fair amount of traffic. I cleaned it up, and we cleaned it up, because I have nephews and nieces who come here.
This is the cleanest blog on the internet … or at least the cleanest on the internet among those with similar traffic.
You obviously have a problem with one of our regulars, and you are just asking for trouble by going after him repeatedly. And that causes trouble for me, too. So I don’t like it, and I think a lot of my readers agree with me.
If you’re arguing that I give one or more of our regulars a little more latitude, well, you’re right. Too bad. It’s my blog.
Lay down the law, Carp. Lay down the law!
You’re the best…around! Nothing’s gonna ever bring you doooown!
DFTT, Carp….:-)
DFTBT, ilb.
Now,that wasn’t fair….That’s exactly what I tried to post, but your filter didn’t allow “B”. Yeah, I know, it’s your blog :-)
I have a problem with offensive language towards women. Please do not mistake that for a problem with another poster. This is not the cleanest blog on the internet with similar traffic. Plenty of other popular blogs have far less offensive language because it is not permitted by the blog administrator(s). It is clear that you support and promote the offensive language towards women. It is your blog, so your support of offensive language is appropriate.
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Banhammer! Banhammer!
Shut up, dave.
There is an interesting, unwritten description of a patient suffering from depression in medical field: “If you enter patient’s room and want to leave it in three minutes, the patient has depression”
How many of you read the blog and wanted to leave soon? That’s your definition of troll…
Read the blog today, I meant…
this is actually worse than reading through the Tiki stuff that went on like 2-3 months ago…
Think positive, Lev…You could be watching Nascar…
Orr, I’m a newcomer here – so I won’t comment on Tiki, except to say that I don’t think he was/is anything like a troll – he has his issues, but if the old-time folks like Carp and Laurel are his friends, then I consider him a friend, too. Tiki isn’t the problem here.
I enjoy Orr’s hi-jinks – he’s here for fun, and so am I, I hope!
Shut up, Dave.
Thank you, Carp.
shoot.. i messed it up
no, thank you, Carp.
there…
that is very true, ilb. how can one watch a car go in circles for 4 hours and actually find some excitement in that?
bybydave? lol.
Jimbo, he’s a borderline troll. He’s on the fence. I used to like him, and would stick up for him, but these days I skip his posts. After he accused Carp, and myself of being racists, that was pretty much it.
Well, I must have missed that! I’m surprised and disappointed to hear such a thing – I hope he apologized for saying it because he must know that it isn’t true….sorry, Orr!
Whoaaaaa heyyyyy whaaaaa??
Yo DAVE KLEIN , your acting like a freak!!! If your cursing ‘bout ORR yer nuts man. That stuff you say about him runs off him like water from a duck back . He been around for years and years dude. You shown up what? A week ago? maybe two? He has senority over you so you should stop acting the fool and just blog the blog man.
GO RANGERS!!!!
Actually plugging a blog on another blog is distastefull,ignorent ,self centered ,cheesy and shows a lack of brains .
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WOW i’d never link that site…ty.
no, thank you, CCCP and wicky.
I wont let these trolls ruin my viewing of the season premier of True Blood :P
True Blood, eh? Never seen it… Is it any good?
You should catch up on “Breaking Bad”...new season starts July 17!
I’m watching “Mob Wifes” on VH1. What a train wreck of a show! lol
Orr
Could we leave this Tiki guy in the past and start over from this point forward?
I love True Blood. Awesome show! I know these days, Vampire stuff is very sappy, and overall girly, but this show, as Jon Torterella would say, has balls as big as a building. One of my favorites, right up there with Dexter.
I still need to watch Breaking Bad. I have it, but I just haven’t gotten around to watching it. I’ll have to check it out sooner than later!
Klein put a sock in it I’m sick of your phoney holier than thou attitude.
ORR I saw most of the first season of Breaking Bad but haven’t seen the subsequent episodes but I want to catch up too!
Oy vey. Good evening alll! Wasn’t planning on being here tonight, and now I think…wtb!
Carp at 6:12, LOL! This repeat is for you….www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsYJyVEUaC4
Sigh…bye Grachev. Will miss you.
Adorer, thanks :) I’d like all the personal carcillo to end myself, and have tried, but doesn’t seem to work. People will be what they are….All, move on puhlease. LGR!!!!
Celebrity Rehab new season is on… Lohan’s father is on it lol
I just read all 164 posts and you guys really do make my day sometimes. I will agree with Klein on the mere fact that Orr’s little semen comment was a little much but (and Orr please don’t think that i don’t like you because of that, i just disagree.) Carp shouldn’t have to nor will he ban such an important bonehead for something that small. What i don’t understand Klein is instead of just saying “Carp, mind if you tell Orr to cool it with the sexual innuendo and crude comments because (insert excuse here)”, you have to engage in an argument, thus making you a troll, time and time again over the same thing. We have heard your opinion and a decision has been made. Let it go and lets talk Rangers hockey!
I’d rather eat a broken stick that watch any Lohan, especially the father. Good night and good luck all. TA!
Lev, i was thinking the same exact thing. To be honest though, i tend to skip Orr’s comments only based on the fact that i don’t understand them most of the time lmao, unless of course they are related to hockey and then i read them.
Guaranteed Gilroy signs with Isles and he and Parenteau combine for 10pp goals vs Rangers next season.
In my defense, a lot of people here have made Alex Semin jokes on several occasions. So, I don’t really don’t see the difference between that, and my one comment.
Also the Chad Johnson jokes we all throw in every now and then. Is there a difference?
Now, my tampon story was a bit much, and I apologized for that. The bloody tampon story, not the story aboot my cat loving tampons.
Carp, mind if you tell ORR to cool it with the sexual innuendo and crude comments because the comments are inappropriate?
Father Lohan is a dick.
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Callahan-Dubinsky-Gaborik
Richards – Staal/MDZ
That is what i want our number one power play unit to look like next year. It is also the reason why i am now once again, leaning towards signing Brad Richards on July 1.
That’s a very realistic scenario, leetch. Sadly!
They need d-men, I think. I think that’s most likely where he’ll end up. It would be a good fit too, he’d definitely get more of a chance there than in most places.
Like i said Orr, nothing against you. Just didn’t like that one comment, not saying it was any better or worse than other things said on here and not everything is going to be perfect.
I think it was Manny, but someone said that they think Orr and Klein are the same person. I think that couldn’t be further from the truth at this point.
For anyone that cares, here’s the development camp roster..
FORWARDS: Jonathan Audy-Marchessault, Ryan Bourque, Adam Estoclet, Jesper Fasth, Ryan Flanigan, Steven Fogarty, T.J. Foster, Austin Fyten, Tommy, Grant, Carl Hagelin, Greger Hanson, Jordan Hickmott, Danny Hobbs, Victor Kamensky, Kale Kerbashian, Oscar Lindberg, Taylor MacDougall, Donny Maloney, Shane McColgan, J.T. Miller, Michael St. Croix, Jason Wilson, Andrew Yogan
DEFENSEMEN: Peter Ceresnak,Tim Erixon, Aleksa Lukovic, Dylan McIlrath, Samuel Noreau, Mikhail Pashnin, Andrej Sustr, Nikita Zaytsev.
GOALTENDERS: Jared Coreau, Ilia Ejov, Jason Missiaen, Scott Stajcer.
LOL! Who’s Donny Maloney?
I wish Gilroy had panned out for us. I was so happy when we first signed him because he grew up around me. Speaking of Isles defense. I still remember the day we signed Wade Redden to that monster of a contract, whilst Streit was still available and for less money. I threw a fit and was screaming at the stupid TSN guys who announced the signing, for once i can say i was right.
Carp confirmed that, Mike. Definitely not.
I can’t wait to hear about Mikhail Pashnin, kid hits everything that moves and has such flair to his game. Kind of like an Ovechkin like flair
Lw?
David, kind of hypocritical, isn’t it, to admonish Orr and (by extension) me for the language, and then to call somebody what you called whoever the heck Father Lohan is?
KAMENSKY?
Carp, I was thinking the same exact thing but i resisted from starting another pointless argument.
Jeez, today’s comments read like a soap opera- As the Stomach Turns.
No no carp, thank you!
Adorer
Nice to see you posting btw!!
Mulcher?
True Blue Mike: I went though the same extreme aggravation over the Lindros acquisition. At the time I did think Brendl was the second coming of Jagr, or somebody, but regardless of how he panned out, it was the PHILOSOPHY of acquiring an older, expensive, partially damaged-goods, with a crap attitude in the case of Lindros, that forever put me on alert that Sather was not going to be bringing multiple Stanley Cup championships our way. I remember how I was red as a beet and just steaming over that one. Absolutely wrecked that entire weekend before I could calm down, a little.
Dwight Gooden is on celebrity rehab, too! Awesome show lol
I normally watch Celeb Rehab, because it’s hilarious, but I can’t watch it this season. I despise Michael Lohan.
No wonder his daughter is a drug addicted booze hound.
Re the above Development Camp roster, Carl Hagelin jumps off the page as the one to watch, and the one I have ZERO expectations for is Oscar Lindberg – the meat cleaver we acquired for Werek. Hope I’m wrong.
They should have fired Sather for the Lindros trade. It was embarrassing to see that #88 in Ranger Blue. I had a similar feeling with the arrival of Brashear.
If Orr and Klein are the same person, so are Santa Claus and Ebenezer Scrooge.
Yeah well #88 was apart of the Famous “flyline” and I thought they were perty dam good at the time. Fire Sather for getting Lindros? ....talk about the stuiped things people say.
You should talk, Greggie. oh, and get a dictionary “stuiped”
It wasn’t what he did as a Ranger, it’s who Lindros was.
It was designed to be irony.
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poorly crafted.
Lindros should have been a Rangers all along. We signed him first but lost out cuz of the handshake deal to Philthy Philly. When all is said , Lindros Dominated . He make stars out off John LeClair and made that Flyers team beasts in the east. He always did wanna play for us cuz Mark Messier was his boyhood idol. You can’t hold anything against him , he should be in the HOF. BTW who cares if I can’t spell Carsillyo.
aww geez, now olga n greg at it again. this is too funny. did this draft make everyone a lil cranky?
You should be on a Flyers Blog, Garg L.
Always said this about the original Lindros deal … if the Rangers had gotten him they might not have won the ‘94 Cup … but they might have won more than one later.
Hey, I was minding my own business until stuiped came along…
Hey, I was minding my own business until dumbazz came along…
Can we please cut out all this carcillo?
ilb – Thanks for the Ed Snider update and psychological profile. I have detested him since he ruined former Eagles owner Jerry Woman. Snider sold Jerry a skyscrapper he owned that was still under construction on Lake Michigan in Chicago, and damned if the foundation didn’t sink into the lake. Snider, it was widely reported, had inside information that the structure was in trouble. In any event, he left Wolman holding the bag.
I am seeing columns around speculating that the lower cap coming in the next CBA, will result in the disbanding of two NHL franchises. Thus the proposed move, announced by Bettman, of the league reverting to four divisions. Only the Players Union would object to this inevitability. I think it will be wonderfully positive for the game, in numerous ways. Imagine, the league has expanded from six to 30 teams, yet is supposed to forfeit the right to make decisions as regards a minor, extremely practical contraction. “All for me, nothing for you” is as tiresome and selfish as it gets. Finally, it will be good to see a professional players sports union take a small dose of its own medicine – for once and probably the final time. Talk about a stacked deck and a rigged game – the owners vs. TV ( which controls all sports), the courts (which ALWAYS side and rule with the players), and the unions is as one-sided as it gets. And if those NFL and NBA boys want to take a season or two off, because they are so exploited and “underpaid” to recline on their yachts with the sauce and with every floosie blonde they can dig up, they won’t be missed much, outside of Las Vegas.
I received the responses I intended it to receive, crafted very well.
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Should read Jerry WOLMAN, above. I don’t think he’s a “woman.”
Hey I was minding my business until…oh, forget it!
Fire Sather for being Sather!
Interesting take Carp ….I believe you think we would of gave up too much to get him? Back then if we had offered picks ( all the picks were busts back then) we would have still won the cup that year …maybe? How do you figure?
”...Arbitrator Larry Bertuzzi selected Flyers GM Russ Farwell’s proposal over New York Rangers GM Neil Smith’s package of Doug Weight, Tony Amonte, Alexei Kovalev, John Vanbiesbrouck, three first round draft picks, and $12 million.
The trade ultimately saw Peter Forsberg, Mike Ricci, Ron Hextall, Steve Duchesne, Kerry Huffman, Chris Simon, two first-round picks (Jocelyn Thibault, Nolan Baumgartner), and $15 million going to Quebec in exchange for the inaugural Next One. The deal remains one of the most significant and lopsided trades in NHL history.”
The Rangers definitely would not have wop a Cup in ‘94 if they gave up the players above. However Colorado Avalanche fans should put up a statue to Lindros and send him a Christmas card every year for refusing to play for Quebec.
Since Lindros never won a Cup with even the best of the Flyers teams, it’s safe to say he wouldn’t have won one in NY either.
OH and Carp , Rick…umm BAN HIM!!!! The guy is tempting you to do it . DAVID needs a banning. He is egging you on and your too kind . Yo DAVID , get lost !!
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I believe the offer was Amonte, Weight, Kovalev, Vanbiesbrouck, three first-round picks and $12-$15M.
lol. stuiped? at least he loves the rangers. cmon olga u know greg is a diehard. but i cant talk, cuz i dont punctuate anything or spell check either as ilb likes to remind me lol
Oh damn!!!!! That is one sick trade package! Entire core of the team! sick…
I’ve often wondered how the Rangers would have done if Lindros was allowed to come here – that was a massive “jobbing” that they took with that so-called “handshake deal”.....
He was a monster with Philly for quite a few years, but they never won the Cup, because of their legendary failure to get a good goaltender….
I think the Lindros family might have some kind of genetic predisposition to being concussion-prone, if such a thing is medically possible… Eric’s brother Brett(?) Lindros had his career ended by a concussion in his first few professional games, as a member of the Islanders….
I don’t know, Olga. He was a dominant player in the mid-late 90s, and the Rangers had a pretty strong core—Leetch, Messier, Richter, Graves, Zubov, etc.
” Doug Weight, Tony Amonte, Alexei Kovalev, John Vanbiesbrouck, three first round draft picks, and $12 million” with the exeption to Kovalev none of those players won the cup in ‘94 . We peddled all of ‘em and won the cup. If we got Lindros instead ..we would have won more then one like Carp said.
right, but maybe not the ‘94 Cup with the players Amonte and Weight brought, and minus Kovalev … about whom at that point, in ‘94, it was thought that maybe he could be a better player ultimately than Lindros.
I kind of feel bad for Lindros, as much as I hated him as a Flyer – I know one thing for sure – he wouldn’t have gotten such crappy treatment from the Ranger management as he did from the Flyers.
THats a right MIKEY!!!! Ok sure sure you and I occasionally spell the odd word or two wrong…so sue us. Call us stuiped for spelling stuiped wrong really is stuiped but who says whos stuiped just because they spell stuiped wrong? You follow me here?
And, as dirty and nasty as he was as a Fly—and, boy, he was—you have to wonder how great he would have been if he’d been healthy in his prime.
ZzZz, the scary part is that I’m starting to understand you.
But look at the Cup players they got for Weight, Amonte, etc.
Imagine the 94 team with out Kovalev, Tikkanin, Matteau… Lindros would not have made up for all of that.
I rest my case, Garg L.
One of those questions that we’ll never have an answer to, Carp – unless we get ahold of a time machine and are able to go back and change history!
Olga, that’s what I said. I don’t think they would have won in ‘94 with Lindros. But I think they might have won one or more Cups later.
The Way-Back Machine, Jimbo. Anybody remember that? It was from a cartoon. The name escapes me.
Let’s see, the Rangers won a Cup WITHOUT Lindros, Philly won nothing WITH Lindros, and players like Amonte and Weight brought the Rangers some catalysts to their Stanley Cup championship in 1994. On balance, it looks like a case can be made for what the Buddhists call “Hendoku Iyaku,” which means “changing poison into medicine.” So often, initial disappointment turns out to be the greatest fortune. The entire Rangers organization and fans were due for a little luck and when we got we cashed it in.
Thank you Eric Lindros, if I didn’t dislike you (and your smothering, controlling parents who probably still run your life), so much, I would say we should add your name, with an asterisk, to the names of Rangers players engraved on the Cup, in 1994.
Oh, yes, when Lindros did finally come to New York, guess who DIDN’T win the Stanley Cup with “spoiled baby number one” on our side? So that he didn’t win in Philly, New York did win when he was in Philly, and New York did not win when “home boy” was in New York. Got the picture?
Jimbo is right, without a time machine… might or might not is a close as we get.
Look Olga , game 7 . 1994 went down to game seven . We almost lost but Leetch and Graves came through . ok ok Ritchter and Messier didnt play too bad but other then that all those players were …umm gone , done..kaputt after 1994 sad to say. The saying “Matteau ,Matteau ,Matteau..” would have been” LINDROS hatty !!”seals the deal . That game would never had went to OT against the Devils if we had Lindros…Carp sees what im talk N ‘bout.
Can we just erect some silly putty statues in honor of Gary Bettman, Glen Sather, and Eric Lindros, at 2 Penn Plaza and get it over with?
I don’t have the animosity I used to have for him any more, Boom Boom – there was a LOT to dislike back in the day, though. I really think his parents did him no favors by being in such control of his career – if he had professional management, he might have fared a whole lot better.
Do you think if we got Lindros…
1. Gretzky comes in 97?
2. Messier stays past 97?
3. Smith begins to go with youth and saves his job?
wicky?
He was another Canadian “Golden Boy” who the (Canadian) press just couldn’t wait to put the crown on, though (just like Cindy) – but it didn’t work out too well for him.
Way-Back machine! I thought that was Archive.org !
MICHABENJAMIN – WOW! Brilliant insight and observation. Best I have EVER seen here. Thank you for your terse statement filled with wisdom.
What is the one thing Lindros did as a Ranger that he never did with PHI, TOR, or DAL?
Am I the only one who knows this?
man the the blog is cheerful tonight isnt it?
He played a full 82 game schedule without any days out for injuries?
Very cheerful, Grabby…... :-/
Matteau got TWO OT wins in the Devils series. That is a fact. A Lindros hat trick in that game 7 is wild speculation.
DJK,
There are plenty of things that Lindros did as a Ranger that he never did with any other team. Your question is too vague.
Great. I left this blog a long time ago because of the bs everyone pulls and the one day I come back and ask a question because I actually was curious to hear what someone else says, I get an asshole response.
So done.
ohh, thats right, weekends over. back to work tommorrow!!!! i guess i should get a little hostile too! go lindros yourself jimbo!!! hha j/k. that would be painful.
Ouch, Grabby!!!! no way I’m doing that! ;-D
micha- dont leave its not like this usually. idk whats up some peoples carcillos here tonight.
ONCE AGAIN: Lindros HAS NEVER played a full season in his career! The most he ever played was 81 games
It’s not easy to look up…
Yeah, Micha – it’s been a very contentious day on the blog here…most unusual, actually…
I didn’t offer a response because I really have no thoughts on the questions – they’re way too hypothetical for my mind to get around…..
Can’t we all just get along little doggie?
it’s easy to look it up*
Never, 3CP? I thought he had just one full season in his first year with the NYR…..but I certainly am not sure of it!
Not surprising, though…...for such a big guy, he sure had a lot of injury issues…
lindros had a funny moment when he was with dallas. i think we were playing him, but he got cauht on our end cuz his stick got stuck in the boards. he didnt leave it to get a new one. he just wrestled with it for a good 10-15 seconds .at least it seemed that long. he was a mess
Lindros didn’t knock the Carcillo out of Peter Nedved when he was a Ranger…
man, we got some nasty moods going in here today.
See what you started Carp?
Eric Lindros
SeasonTeamLgeGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPGAPtsPIM
1988-89Canadian National TeamIntl21010
1989-90Canadian National TeamIntl31014
1989-90Oshawa GeneralsOHL2517193661 1718183676
1990-91Oshawa GeneralsOHL577178149189 1618203893
1991-92Oshawa GeneralsOHL139223154 —————1991-92Canadian National TeamIntl2419163534
1992-93Philadelphia FlyersNHL6141347514728—————1993-94Philadelphia FlyersNHL6544539710316—————1994-95Philadelphia FlyersNHL462941706027124111518
1995-96Philadelphia FlyersNHL7347681151632612661243
1996-97Philadelphia FlyersNHL52324779136311912142640
1997-98Philadelphia FlyersNHL6330417113414512317
1998-99Philadelphia FlyersNHL7140539312035—————1999-00Philadelphia FlyersNHL55273259831121010
2000-01Did Not PlayIndStatistics Unavailable
2001-02New York RangersNHL7237367313819—————2002-03New York RangersNHL*81*1934531415—————2003-04New York RangersNHL39102232607—————2005-06Toronto Maple LeafsNHL3311112243-3—————2006-07Dallas StarsNHL495212670-130004
Not sure how this will look on the blog (posting from my iPhone) but whatever. I know, 81 is very close to full season but… still not all 82 games
good one olga!! lmao
damn! it look horrible! lol
Yes, it certainly does – but I see the 81 games there in 2003-2204….OK…..
I’m not in a bad mood…...everything is beautiful…...... ;-)
i know, the best was when orr got harrased for not going to college instead of chat. like hes the blog orphan needing good parental advice. first of all, how would the guy know orr is here alot if hes not here alot himself?
*2004…...
atta boy, Jimbo. I’m calling it a night. Hopefully we can all stop acting like jackwagons tomorrow.
Good night, Sally!
Greg wasn’t acting… he was serious!
Hah, just remembered the Way Back Machine! It was Mr. Peabody (a dog) and Sherman, during the Rocky and Bullwinkle show!
Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat…
Hey! that is Sather’s drafting style….
Wow. I picked a great day to return to the blog. When i left a few months ago, Orr was the “Golden Boy” of the blog. I come back and he is like the “Piss Boy” (been dying to use a Mel Brooks reference today)
Well at least to a few posters
What happened Orr, good buddy??
he pulls it out of his carcillo maker
orr’s not here somer. hes probably looking up the number for itt tech
That right Carp , Mr Peabody and his boy , Sherman.
ignore the trolls ..ignore the trolls…
I hope pashnin impresses the hell out of everyone
I really didn’t mean to offend anybody with my answer; I apologize if I came across that way. That’s now how I am, really.
When people say “one thing,” a lot of times there’s multiple answers and just one specific thing they’re thinking of; I wasn’t gonna be a complete aasen and go “he used the home locker room at MSG” or something like that, I really was curious. I truly apologize.
wicky?
Mr Klein, your endless promotion of your blog on here is far more offensive, in my opinion, than the so-called women bashing you claim exists here.
Carp gives you free marketing to promote your website and then you complain that his blog isn’t tasteful enough for you and your “daughter”. I’m also pretty sure you don’t have a young daughter who reads this comment section and that you pulled that out of your Aasen. (does Aasen offend you too or should I make it age appropriate also?)
Goodnight, everyone!
Chumley, let’s go see mr. Whipple…duhhhhh, ok Tennessee….
Rocky and Bullwinkle! How could I have forgotten? (I’m old, that’s how!) One of my favorite shows when I was a kid.
Mulva?
Kill Moose and Squirrel!
Im calling it a night boneheads. Lets all get some rest and start a clean slate tomorrow without all the hatred.
FIRE SATHER!