Guest blogger Jeever2711: Game 4 in review

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When I think of the best of sports, I always think of those electric moments.  Those moments when you lean forward in your chair, stand up, your eyes widen, you concentrate on nothing but the scene in front of you.  I believe that hockey has more of Those Moments than any other sport.  That’s even more the case in the playoffs.  These finals have been great, with the biggest negative knowing that after this,  hockey’s over for the next few months.  As I typed this part, the Bruins came out, and I had to stop to watch the home crowd go crazy over their team.  Another moment was in Vancouver when the anthem singer stopped singing, to let the crowd belt out O Canada.  Hockey’s the best.  Onto the game!

1. I started watching the game thinking Vancouver’s going to come out angry, embarrassed, and looking to put Game 3 behind them.   Turns out, the game started kind of hesitant.  More physical stuff than actual gameplay.  But after a few minutes, both teams picked it up and had great chances.

2. If you ever wondered what place hitting has in hockey, you just needed to hear the roar of the crowd when the Bruins threw a big check.  There’s nothing like a clean monster check to get the fans loud and supporting the team.

3. Emrick got his “waffleboarded away” out of the way early this game.  He says it once a game, just about every game.  He also made a Devils reference, so I feel safe making a Rangers comment.  The last time these teams made the Finals, they lost to a Mark Messier-captained team.  Boston to Mess and the Oilers in 90, and Vancouver to…. Well, you know.

4. Taking away reputations and numbers, Luongo looks so much cooler and in control than Thomas in the crease.  Thomas is jumping all around, and diving everywhere, but Luongo looks square to 90 percent of the shots he sees.  That being said, Thomas had to deal with a lot of traffic and good chances and played like a madman, and Luongo had to suffer another loss, being pulled, and having Vancouver fans cheer it.

5. Can anybody believe that Boston’s outscoring Vancouver… on the Vancouver power play?

6. That little flurry Boston had, right at the midpoint of the 1st period, they had about 5 shots, from right in front of the goal, only got about 1 shot on Luongo, and couldn’t score.  That reminded me of the 5 minute power play they had last game, where they didn’t score.  That’s the type of situation that can deflate you.  Game 3, they were able to move on and win.  This game, Peverley scored 2 minutes later, and Boston took the lead for good.  That’s the resilience and character that can win you hockey games.

7. This series could really go down to a battle of 2 guys who play 180 feet from each other.  Both teams are playing hard, physical, getting good chances but Thomas has really outdueled Luongo the past 2 games, with Lou taking games 1 and 2.

8. Speaking of Luongo, does he realize the game keeps going after he lets in 2 goals?  The past 2 games, it just seems like he and his team just let up after going down.  That’s the  compete that Boston’s shown and Vancouver hasn’t.

9. Hockey’s about the little things.  You do the little things right, or wrong, and it can snowball from there.  Chara races to keep the puck in the zone.  Henrik Sedin hands off a lazy pass at the side of his own net.  Bieksa goes for a lazy hip check on Lucic.  All lead to goals.  That’s one of the wonderful things about hockey.  It keeps you honest, you have to make the right plays.

10. Higgins had a last gasp attempt for the Canucks to get back into the game, but was stopped on the breakaway.  Interesting note on him…  I didn’t think much of him as a Ranger, but he’s one of the few players that benefitted a team both when they traded for him (getting rid of the Gomez contract), and also when they traded him away (getting Prust in return).

11. After Game 2, Boston looked like they couldn’t solve Vancouver and put up goals.  They needed to win 4 out of the next 5 games.  Since then, they’ve out-scored Vancouver 12-1, and only now need to win 2 out of 3.  Let’s all hope for at least 1 more win out of each team, and let this get decided in Game 7.

12. Lastly, I would be remiss if I didn’t thank Carp for this opportunity.  This is one of my coolest hockey-related experiences this year, and I really enjoyed doing this.  I only hope I did him proud, and you guys enjoyed reading this as much as I did writing it.

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  1. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    Ranger Nation is a freakin TIZZY this morning! I’m telling you, the next article will be entitled ” PSSSSSSYYYYYYYYYYYYYCHE!”

  2. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    BANJ, looks like early bday present for me if this is true. There, got that out of the way .

  3. hockeypuckck on

    i remember how freeing it felt to get redden off the books and sent down to the whalepack. i respect drury but i have to admit it’s a similar feeling of freedom and optimism washing over me…

  4. Doodie Machetto on

    Good review.

    Personally, I could go either way on the Drury buy out. We could do worse for a 4th line center, and I’d rather have a clear cap for 2012.

    But buying him out is fine too. The guy just doesn’t have it anymore, and quite frankly never had 7 million worth of it.

  5. ONECUPIN72YEARSAND COUNTING on

    OK, so they clear cap space then blow it all , by over paying for a concussed Richards and have cap problems for the next 4-5 seasons. sounds like a great move.

  6. Doodie Machetto on

    onecup, I’m with you. That’s the problem. They will just ruin their cap on Richards.

  7. czechthemout!!!! on

    Gore news! Captain crotch is gone! Say no to Richards if it is anything beyond 3 years.

    I read a rumour on hf boards that the rangers are offering MDZ and the 15 th pick to the Avs in order to draft Gabriel Landeskog. Any thoughts?

  8. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    Marchand = Cally….with hands !

    Momentum ends with flight to Vancouver…(Carp…was there momentum?)

    I had picked Canucks in 5, now I think this series is a 50-50 pickem, but it would appear that the home team will win every game, so Canucks in 7. (btw, that almost happened the last two years, the home team has won almost all the games)

    Bye Bye Capt….nice career. New Capt can be Cally or Dubie or Staal or Richards…way too early to name one

    Will Canucks get same boost as Bruins if Stan Smyl, Trevor Linden, Pavel Bure, Markus Naslund, Kirk McLean, King Richard Brodeur, or Sergio Momesso start waving flags? I don’t think so. Seeing Bobby Orr being a cheerleader was AWESOME.

  9. Doodie Machetto on

    Sharp if he’s available, otherwise sign a defenseman (potential UFAs: Suter, Burns, Coburn, Kronwall) and then deal from our blue line depth for a #1 center.

  10. “The Daily News has learned…” Had to double check and make sure it wasn’t one of Brooks’ infamous sources

  11. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    by the way, Bobby Orr = monster (8 Norris winners in a row ?)

  12. Colorado was terrible defensively last year, I don’t think MDZ would really help them in that department.

  13. Doodie Machetto on

    CTO, I wouldn’t mind that trade to move up to #2, but I wouldn’t take Landeskog at that position.

    This One, actually, I think Linden would get their crowd going. He’s a legend up there. 16 seasons with the Canucks.

  14. This is not good – they’re clearing space to offer Richards the contract they just cleared off the books.

  15. Doodie Machetto on

    CTO, also, I’d want something back besides #2. MDZ still has loads of potential, and right now, he’s the only PP QB defenseman in the system.

  16. Well Sharp has a hit of $3.9M so I’d imagine he’s in line to get a $5M hit for his next deal, I’d imagine the price tag on any of those D would be roughly the same.

    Then the next step would be which center would you target along with which D would you trade? Even if they could swing a deal for say Stastny from the Avs, you’d be adding probably at least $15M (probably closer to $17M) in cap hits.

  17. Doodie Machetto on

    actually, on 2nd thought, I probably don’t do that trade unless there’s a 2nd rounder coming back our way, or at least a capable PP QB.

  18. Doodie Machetto on

    CTB: I would target centers with upcoming expiring deals on teams that may not be able to afford to retain them.

    Ideally, and I know that this would never, ever happen, I would look at a guy like Malkin. Crosby’s deal expires in 2013, and he’s going to get PAID. Malkin’s deal expires in 2014, and he too, will be looking for significant money. Pittsburgh is going to have to face either losing one or gutting it’s roster.

    But I think Stastny is a good example of a guy we might be able to actually acquire. Now in terms of dollars, I would suggest not buying out Wolski or Drury to preserve the cap space for 2012, which would provide us with about 2.25 million on that summer’s cap.

    Stastny’s cap hit is 6.6, which is .4 less than the rumored 7 Richards is seeking. so that’s 2.65 so far of net savings at this point over the buyout/sign Richards route. Subtract 5 million for a defenseman that we sign. Now we are at a 2.35 loss, cap wise. But add in the contract of the defenseman we send over as part of the deal. Figure it’s probably a young guy, maybe MDZ since they Colorado still needs to replace Shattenkirk. That’s like a million. That’s an increase of only 1.35 million in terms of cap dollars if we don’t buy players out and wait for 2012, sign a defenseman, and make a trade. Of course, we probably lose a draft pick going that route as well. And for it to be Stastny, he needs to regain his form this year.

  19. Doodie Machetto on

    CTB, I had considered Liles. Maybe Quincey would be the more affordable choice, although his numbers have dropped significantly since his breakout rookie season.

  20. I’m not against that route Doodie. It’s just a lot of that is contingent upon the Rangers finding a willing trade partner. On top of that a bona fide #1 center is going to cost more than just a top defensive player so in terms of trading assets it certainly could end up being cost prohibitive. It’s also been fairly rare that star players get traded in the cap era aside from deadline deals. Thus counting on a move to get made, irrespective of the costs, is a risky a proposition.

    However I don’t think getting Richards is a smart move either. Beyond the cap restructuring they’ll need to do to fit him in, I think they’re also rushing the rebuilding process by getting him. We still don’t know how good the Rangers blueline can be. A lot of permutations can take place with MDZ rediscovering his game or in hindsight being a flash in the plan player. McDonagh could turn into legit top pair guy or go through a nasty sophomore slump. Erixon is an even bigger unknown. Let alone seeing if Stepan continues to improve or what Thomas and/or Kreider can do at the NHL level. Adding in Richards puts the organization on very much a win now track, which IMO is premature.

  21. Noah-Rangers, 28 on

    Boy oh boy.

    To think that before June 2009, we had Redden, Rozsival, Gomez and Drury all on the payroll. And, after Redden gets “re-sent” down to Hartford after he’s placed on the summer cap, they will all be wiped clean. That makes me smile.

    And, this may be biased since I am in support of bringing Richards here (albeit nothing more than 4 years), but would you rather have Drury or Richards as your high-paid center? Maybe that’s being too simple, but is it?

    Richards has had one concussion. After an offseason of rest, he’d be ready to fill two DIRE needs on this team: #1 center and PP QB.

    I hope he comes (but for no more than 4 years!).

  22. Doodie Machetto on

    “Adding in Richards puts the organization on very much a win now track, which IMO is premature.”

    That’s really why I want to wait. Let’s evaluate what we have more before we commit to a group that will take us to a title. Adding Richards locks us into a lineup that we won’t be able to change much.

    “but would you rather have Drury or Richards as your high-paid center? Maybe that’s being too simple, but is it? ”

    Yes, that’s much too simple. If we could sign Richards to a 1 year deal, then that logic would hold.

  23. Good morning all! This series is making me really, really thirsty.

    Excellent write up Jeever. Buh bye Drury, and no to Richards!

    OK, that’s all I got so far today.

  24. Good morning everybody! Just finished another “lesson” with my Information Tech studies. 6 more to go! Hope that news about Drury holds up. Bye Chris!!

  25. Why is everyone saying no to richards. We need a first line center, and I say we get a bit of a discount hopefully because of what torts has done for him. Its important to have veterans for the young guys. So your not putting all the pressure on them, and they help them grow.

    Also good riddance to Drury. That puck juggler will not be missed by me.

  26. Richards is not taking a discount.

    Richards wants to win a Cup, not rebuild an organization. He likes Torts, but he likes $$$ more…I don’t blame him…

    He’s not worth $8m per year to the Rangers….

    If he goes to Tampa, Doodie’s idea of a Stamkos offer sheet by the Rangers is a real possiblity…they would not be able to sign Ricahrds and Stammer…Just sayin’.

  27. I still don’t think they buy out Drury until I see it happen…I am skeptical…

  28. 4generations 4 cups on

    I understand the Richards apprehension but this guy was a Conn Smythe trophy winner..? There is absolutely no talk of that in here, and its astounding. All the talk is of his teammates being Marty and Vinny but nothing about the fact that Richards (himself) had (i believe) 13 or 14 goals in that one postseason run, and even this year (i believe) he was a PPG player.

    Pull your heads out of eachothers rear ends. This is the only free agent player worth throwing money at. If we have to get another player (through trade) we have to deal to philly for Carter, or hope for a 3 way trade.

  29. 4generations 4 cups on

    Stamkos isnt going anywhere from tampa…LOL. They also arent signing Richards for no reason. They were two goals away from the Cup Final. This team doesnt need the top free agent.

  30. Boneheads is the series over? Vancouver looks gassed and B’s are energized. I don’t think Vancouver wins another game. Are u with me?

    Good news about Drury and if it’s true it is the right decision. Don’t think Richards will be with NY. Will have to see what Plan B is.

  31. Mister Delaware on

    “Pull your heads out of eachothers rear ends. This is the only free agent player worth throwing money at.”

    And sometimes there isn’t any free agent worth throwing big money at.

  32. i think we need richards because of what qualities he brings, pp qb, 1st line c blah, blah, blah, but, think ahead 3yrs, possibly 2 concussions later, all the people who wanted this guy will be bitchn about uncle glenny and his crappy free agent history. another bad signing. so im on the fence really. id rather see glen(who by the way made some pretty good deals in his time)deal from the d depth that we have(also metion in an earlier post) to get something tasty in the draft, or maybe a patrick sharp. put a stamp on mdz’s forehead and get him outta here while he still has value. btw, we also have, i think another good quality prospect name pashnin, in the khl, so weve got plenty of good prospects to deal. i also think we coulod lose girardi too, not a big fan of his, think he gives the puck away tooooo much, could get something good for him as well. Callahan=real captain. later

  33. 4generations 4 cups on

    sign dubisnky, fedotenko, anisimov, boyle, gilroy sauer for the next year (id really consider prospal for another year too). cut drury, wolski and let frolov, mccabe and eminger walk. We have about 18.4mill in cap space right now, and if we cut drury and wolski that will be ~6m off the books. so we have 24.4 mill in cap space to work with. Dubinsky will get 4-4.5 a year, say 4.5, we’re down to 20. fedotenko deserves 1.5-2mill, same with boyle. call them both 2 mill. down to 16. signing sauer is most important, he’ll probably get a 2m, 2.5m 3m contract for 3 years, 2.5m cap hit, down to 13.5mill. resigning gilroy will take about 3m a year cap hit. its down to him or anisimov.

    Richards is a great player. I hope other people will see that.

    EC-Richards-Gabo
    Dubi-Artie-Cally
    Prust-Boyle-Prospal
    Avery-Stepan-MZA

  34. 4generations 4 cups on

    Theres 1 guy this year that could kill two birds with one stone, with a guy thats been a PPG player his whole career….idgi…

  35. Mister Delaware on

    I think your 4 lines make the case against Richards. That’s not a top 4 team in the East which, atleast in my opinion, means Richards ceases to be worth the risk. If he put us over the top, sure. He doesn’t.

  36. Dubi will probably get closer to 4 than 4.5 as will Cally

    All the other RFA forwards more/less correct.

    I’m not against bringing back Feds for another 1 year deal at around his same cap hit.

    Sauer’s limited NHL experience will keep his price tag down. Injuries have been an issue with him so a 2 year deal at around what Dubinsky got a couple of years ago is probably what he’ll get.

    Gilroy I think is out. He’s not worth his qualifying offer and trading for and then signing Erixon puts him further down the depth chart.

  37. Problem is the Rangers still need to address the elite scoring issue. If everyone thinks Stepan is ready to step in and score 70 + points cebtering gaborik (I am not saying he isn’t) then fine we roll with that. But as constituted I don’t know if you can look at the Rangers and say just by virtue of the younger core guys having another year under their belts they are erady to contend. They need some elite talent.

  38. those four lines dont get me excited at all. ec? hes gotta go, senseless to keep a player whos only skill is the shoot out. i no hes on the books for another year, but that guy couldnt crack the lineup of the womens switzerland national team. = too soft.
    how do we all project artie stats to go next season? interested to see these comments, I am thinking maybe more of the same, 40-55 pts. this guy has shown flashes, but has been inconsistent, i would be weary of givng him more than 2yrs. and i also think bringing feds back for another or two yrs is a good idea, excellent player, doesnt disappear. thoughts

  39. CT

    I heard that Hemsky is looking to leave Edmonton early…

    while Talbot is not an upgrade skill wise over EC, Talbot’s overall game is much better than EC’s and Talbot brings it every night and not just for the SO part of the game.

  40. Given how much the Rangers have relied on the shoot out the past couple of seasons, EC isn’t a bad player for that role. Torts isn’t much of a 4 line coach so sticking him on the 4th line (as long as he stays there and not masquerades as a top 6 player) isn’t the worst option. It’s like having an enforcer that only plays 5 mins a game but this guy can actually help win you Bettman points.

    Assuming he gets a little stronger in the offseason, AA looks like a good bet for 50 points. That is if he gets solid 2nd line minutes. Like most guys that are RFA but still a work in progress and haven’t quite hit their breakout year he’ll get a 1-2 year deal.

    Feds helps the all around game. Forms a solid 3rd line with Boyle and Prust and plays special teams. Isn’t terribly productive, but I think Torts is willing to overlook that as long as he plays his defensive role well.

  41. CCCP,

    Yeah but where are you playing Talbot on the depth chart? He’s not a top 6 guy, and Boyle is probably the 3rd line center. So you’re going to pay extra for a 4th line center? And like it or not, the shootout is an essential part of the game.

  42. PS, I heard that Edmonton wants to leave Edmonton early. It’s envious of Winnipeg.

  43. i don’t know! put him somewhere! Make Talbot a winger! Talbot-Boyle-Prust sounds like hell of a line to me! Talbot is younger than Feds

  44. anyway… in the next 3 weeks we will see a new rangers team! can’t believe the Dru saga is finally coming to an end! Gomer, Redden, Rozi, Dru…lets call it GomReddDruZi era!

  45. I really think you’re hoping to become Talbot’s wingman when he tries to pick up Santa’s Helpers.

  46. iDoodie machetto on

    Anyone know whether Erixon plays left or right side? If he plays left side, that’s bad news for MDZ. Staal, McD, Erixon could make him the odd man out.

  47. Hello, all. Got to leave early today, so, I’m here!

    Nice review, Jeever.

    What is this Drury tomfoolery?

  48. 4generations 4 cups on

    Talbot? Is this a serious conversation? Do we need to bring Brashear back after he KOed Betts? Wanna sign Cooke?

  49. lets just hope the Rangers find a way to trade for a young #1 center and we don’t have to risk the next 5 years on Brad Richards…

  50. By the way, since when does Spector learn something before Brooks?

    I’m with Orr, I think it’s silly to assume Drury is gone until he actually is…

    Ya gotta think Slats is talking to the Sharks about some of their guys…i.e. Clowe, Healey, Pavelski…

    I like Jeff Carter too…Certainly possible, I just don’t see how the Rangers get him…

  51. It all boils down to this: are we a NOW team. If we think we can win next year then by all means, sign Richards. But, if we think we will have to build for a few years to win, don’t freakin’ sign him. Build and build and create a team that can win a FEW cups. Not just one.

  52. I still don’t understand why the Rangers would consider buying out Wolski. He’s young and he is only 1 year removed from a 65 point season and he only has 1 year left on his deal.

    Considering the Rangers biggest weakness is top line talent, they really should give him another chance to see if he can regain his old form. There is no debating that he has the talent and has already proven in 09-10 that he can be a top line player.

    Plus if they do buyout Drury, that will be enough money to afford whichever top line center they bring in…

  53. Yea. Sadly we are not a win NOW team. Let’s set the deadline for the year Krieder decides to turn pro. Then we can build until then. No dumb contracts. Let’s work on dumping the bad ones we have and just become a dynasty.

  54. Boom Boom Bathgate on

    Slats may be dumping Dreary, but will probably designate him as our “Honorary Captain.” Not stripping this sourpuss of his captaincy, which he NEVER should have been given in the first place, goes down as a sad chapter in judgment to appoint him, and indecision to maintain him in the position long after he became unproductive and infirm. Guess the pizza stock will tumble now, that was always the first priority with this creep, anyhow. Good riddance you human pock mark!

  55. Good riddance Captain Crutch…

    Your Rangers career is summed up in a few choice words: “I’m not gonna let this ruin my christmas” and “Forget the losing streak, buy my pizza”

    Okay, I made up the last quote. But I still think shilling his pizza joint between periods when his team is in a losing streak is a mark of a man not fit to be captain.

    No more dreary dog looks…no more chewed mouthpieces…no more POW-like interviews…

    Let it be true!!

  56. I doubt Slats has any interest in Heatley. He had a chance to get him, and he backed out, which was the smart move. The cost is/was just too high.

    I can’t imagine the Sharks listening to offers for Clowe or Pavelski.

  57. Doodie Machetto on

    Brooks coming over the top of Spector! Reporting that Sather has told Drury he will be bought out and that Wolski nad Avery are NOT being bought out.

  58. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    Morning ILB and all!!

    I keep WW if you sign richards (you give him a talented guy to play with and wow!! IMO)

    You have to think IF we buyout drury, it probably means a run at richards, right?

    Why does everyone insist on a PPQB having to be a d man?

    I agree about getting rid of EC, and I would take talbot over him in a second, but I would take RUPP over both!

    WW is skating with boyle and underhill this off season.

    Is this a belated birthday present for carp from the rangers??

  59. Ok, now I believe it :)

    Orr, I think Heatley really wanted to be a Ranger back when he asked to be moved…IIRC, it was his first choice for a trade…

    Not saying I love the guy, but he can score goals…

  60. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    jeever
    great write up, thanks!

    If we do buy out drury and no one else, me thinks a trade will be made to address roster holes!

  61. ZOMG DREARY GONE!!!!

    Now we gotta find a way to get rid of Gaborik (or at least make him believe that he is playing for his country in every game)!

  62. Doodie Machetto on

    No San Jose guys. They aren’t going to be interested in our prospects either. They have about 2 more years left in Thornton and Marleau before they have to seriously consider blowing up the team. They are looking to buy, not to sell.

  63. So where do you gusy think Dru is going to play next year?

    Buffalo? Philly? Islanders?

  64. Doodie Machetto on

    I think the Islanders are a really logical destination for him. Close to home, they need veteran leadership, defensive depth, and he would likely come fairly cheap.

  65. Doodie Machetto on

    Plus, he can get injured and miss the whole season for them, just like everyone else on their team.

  66. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    he’ll score 35 with the fishies!!

  67. CTBlueshirt on

    I thought about LA, but I think they’re trying to run off some of their older guys and they already have a faceoff specialist in Stoll. I also don’t think Drury would fare that well in the West.

    Maybe back Buffalo or do what a lot of over the hill NYers do and go down to Florida.

  68. the two guys I want are Stastny or Spezza. Of course that means trading top prospects but at least for Stastny, you gotta make that deal.

    Any time you can bring an all star thats 25 and under, you gotta make the move even if you have to “overpay”. We have one of the best farm systems in the league so even if we do give up good prospects, we will be still have a strong system…

  69. Mama! I want to come to Warren77 but there is a possible meet up with another couple. Double Date! I am working on it.

    wicky?

  70. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    manny and mama going on a double date??

    SCORE manny, mama is model SMOKING HOT!!!

  71. Does anyone know of an impact player (1st line or top defenseman, not collision impact) who suffered a concussion at age… oh lets say 31…who went on to play 5 years without suffering another concussion yet continued his top level of play? Seems to me the concussions we bring to NY continue to have concussions. Perhaps this is not the rule? Or very simply, is it common for a top level 20+ minute per game player to suffer just one concussion in his career and it not be a liability for the remainder of his career?

  72. Doodie Machetto on

    oleo, I too am intrigued by Stastny. Spezza not so much. He’s already 28 and has problems staying healthy the past two years. Plus he has a larger cap hit (although, marginally so).

  73. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    I’m not advocating this at all but would anyone here trade dubi/mdz for stastny/liles?

    I wouldn’t, but just curious.

  74. CTBlueshirt on

    I think the Avs are looking to build around Stastny and Duchene. It looks like a lot of who they thought were core guys were more flashes in the pan than legit players. And you can’t just build around one player on offense. Plus it worked out pretty well the last time the Avs decided to build around two centers.

  75. CTBlueshirt on

    wicky, I don’t think the question is whether anyone here would do that trade, but why would the Avs do that trade?

  76. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    on one other note, did we ever decide (in our humble opinions) who we thought the rangers were drafting in the first round?

  77. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    CTB
    good point, was just musing.

    linda?

  78. wick – thanks!

    Orr, yup, most likely he would be too costly. He definitely was when he was with Ottawa. But, I think his stock may have dropped a bit after a so-so season and playoffs…

    Yeah, I am leaning towards Buffalo. But, I could see him playing for the Fishies…

    I agree with Oleo, if there is a deal in place for Statsny, you do it…

  79. 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Boston Bruins on

    Bobby Orr Winner Brewins Winner Rangers loser Drury loser Lundquist loser Ansimov loser

  80. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    just what everyone was waiting for…LOL

    incarceratedbob incarcerated bob
    **BREAKING NHL NEWS** Source: Rangers have now started in on the bidding to obtain the rights to Brad Richards #Stars – Leafs still involved

  81. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    followed by…

    incarceratedbob incarcerated bob
    **BREAKING NHL NEWS**Source: Leafs & Rangers are battling it out to get 1st crack at signing Brad Richards – Stars GM will trade him!

  82. For Stastny? I’m giving up an arm, a leg, bone marrow, semen [the gooey kind, not the human Russian kind], and maybe a kidney. I’ll throw in some blood, just because I have too much. Also a hoagie, if he likes them.

  83. I’d give up Dubinsky and a top prospect for Stastny…not sure that’s enough…

    The selling point for the Avs may be that ~$4m is a lot more attractive for a second line center than $6.6m…especially for a franchise with cash flow problems….

  84. Drury goes to Buffalo, will have 29 goals, 70 points season, will score GWG against Rangers at 7.1 sec. left in regulation time of the last season game, deprive them from Playoffs.
    Wolsky and Gilroy goes to Islanders, scores left and right under loud Rangers fans gnash, giving super improved Isles 5:1 season’s wins against us and assured them 7th place in conference vs. Rangers 9th.
    Off season, Collective RR GMs keeps analyzing Rangers rebuilding efforts for 2012/13 season…
    That’s my worst nightmare scenario.

  85. 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Boston Bruins on

    Richards loser Rangers no Stanley Cup for 100 years. We are champions for 6 time, Rangers stuck at 4 for 100 years

  86. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    and just to finish it out…

    incarceratedbob incarcerated bob
    **BREAKING NHL NEWS**Source: Rangers have offered a package that may satisfy Stars GM – Leafs also are bidding.. Richards will choose soon

  87. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    ORR and CTB

    LMFAO x2!!

  88. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    orr
    LMFAO! You think he is having problems like in one of the hangover movies? A face tat or something?

  89. CTBlueshirt on

    Dubinsky and a top prospect is not enough for Stastny. If cash is their concern they’d probably ask for one of Anisimov/Stepan and Sauer/McDonagh and 1st rounder/top prospect.

  90. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    orr
    nice. he is probably trying to find the elusive playoff momentum in some mental haze!

  91. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    banj
    IKR, we need to have sally doctor up his blog pic with one, it would be hilarious!!

  92. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    maybe he was taken by rod lurks or vinceA or local fan

  93. Aw, Manny, come on! Bring everyone! Trade everyone! CT, you still planning on going?

    thanks wicky :) you’re very sweet for a bag man…..

  94. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    I only way like 220, oh you said BAG man, my bad!!

  95. Yup, Drury and Gomez really shined on Broadway. Whoever said that was a mistake, hats off, you were right.

  96. 2011 Peeing Cup Champions Boston Bruins,
    are you lost, getting out of your basement with inflatable cup and rubber girlfriend?
    Poor, hapless and helpless dreamer…

  97. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    orr
    we mind be looking at this the wrong way, maybe carp is doing a jay and silent bob/fargo combo…tracking down certain posters and feeding them into this wood chipper he has out behind his house.

    innocent poster here to carp on his first ay back “so carp, what you been up to?”

    carp “just mulching my yard!”

  98. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    might, not mind…sorry

  99. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    day, not ay…sheesh!

  100. 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Boston Bruins on

    We win we better Rangers loser Gabork loser Avery loser Rangers never win

  101. wick, if you’re going to correct all of your typos, you might as well just write Carp a check for $150,000

  102. doodie, that is the most ridiculous thing you’ve ever posted, and that’s hard to beat….:) Puh-leeze.

  103. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    check is in the mail (I don’t want to get mulched)

  104. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    doodie and orr
    shhsh

  105. It would cost a ton to get Stastny but I personally would trade almost anyone to get him.

    I think Anisimov, Del Zotto, Grachev and a 1st rounder is the type of offer it would take and there is no way the Rangers could say no. I would certainly try to keep Anisimov and Del Zotto and offer someone like Zuccarello and Girardi instead but considering how Colorado isn’t desperate to get rid of him its going to take a big offer.

    either way if you can get a guy who is younger and better than Dubinsky and Callahan without giving up Stepan, Krieder, Thomas, McIlrath or the newly acquired Erixon then its a no-brainer…

  106. 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Boston Bruins on

    Blogmama smell funky? We win aha aha I like it aha aha

  107. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    ILB
    TODD WHITE!!!

  108. Nope. Alive and well, though probably about 10 pounds low after sitting in sweltering heat for lacrosse double-header yesterday and in sun all day the day before.

    But I appreciate the concern. Not drunk (wagon), not tattooed, not scalped or taken hostage.

    How about T.O. for the captain? Remember how much Burke loved him when picking the Olympic team?

    Good morning, Sally!

    PS, to this jackwagon Boston fan, if you don’t start bringing something to the table other than how your Bruins haven’t won a Cup since Bobby Orr — and probably never will again — you’re going to get your aasen banned. Why hasn’t anybody busted out the off-season favorite, the shine box?

  109. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    oh boy, I see mulch as someone’s future

  110. Doodie Machetto on

    Honestly, I thought it was Tiki the whole time. That’s why I had been ignoring it.

  111. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    carp
    sorry, I was trying to get that changed to “mulched”

  112. Carcillo Carp! You’re right! WTB folks!!! And congrats on the weight loss :)

  113. wicky,

    Between my actual posts and your endless promotion, I think my name appears on this site more than any other! Lol!

    Hacklund said something about trading Anisimov.. which is a major fail coming from him.. but it has crossed my mind now and then. I really like Anisimov, though, so I dunno. Drury should probably remain another year UNLESS the Rangers go after Richards. There’s no point in buying out Drury if Richards isn’t acquired.

  114. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    carp
    at least we were worried about you!

  115. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    Shine box/mulching to all of us!!

  116. 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Boston Bruins on

    Thomas winner Lundquist loser We win you lose aha aha I like it aha aha

  117. CTBlueshirt on

    I still don’t think the Avs would want Del Zotto. They need help on D and would probably target McDonagh instead.

  118. LOL! I like this comment on TSN…

    “Drury is a nice guy and I am sure he makes a mean pizza but I am happy he is gone from the NYR”

    Has anyone been able to confirm if Dreary’s Chuck-E-Cheese plastic looking pizza actually tastes good?

  119. First, Tiki would never say anything nasty about me like the shine-boxer just did. Never has, never will.

    Second, he hates Boston so much you’re idiots for thinking he’d be the shine-boxer.

    Third, he hasn’t been here in ages, yet you still feel the need to needle. Pisses me off. Grow the hartnell up. Leave the guy alone for cripes sake.

    There endeth my rant for the day.

  120. CTBlueshirt on

    How as the Yorktown game Carp. I saw they lost, but it looked like a close score.

  121. Carp, time to get out out the ban box.

    Latona, for that, I am going to go out and have an awesome lunch on your behalf! Tomorrow….:)

  122. Doodie Machetto on

    Still thought it was him. Carp’s post convinced me otherwise.

    CTB, I think they would be interested in MDZ as a replacement for the departed Kevin Shattenkirk.

  123. 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Boston Bruins on

    Thomas winner Longo loser 6 Stanley Cups 2011 Champion Brewins 4 Rangers 0 Canucks

  124. Yeah, 2011 Peeing cup chimps – Bruins,
    “better” Boston lost 3 out of 4 games this season to Rangers, but what do you know, really…BTW, ask your local government to refund you any money spent for your elementary education and buy some punctuations. The rest spend on brain surgery.

  125. You should learn to take my word Doodie. I’m a straight-up kinda gal who doesn’t suffer fools gladly :)

    Are we really talking about losing MDZ? That makes me sad….

  126. CTBlueshirt on

    I think between Liles and Erik Johnson they’ve got decent enough offensive talent from the blueline for now. But they were dead last in the league in goals against. If I was their GM and could get nice building block player that could contribute right away on defense, I’d swing for McDonagh over MDZ.

  127. Doodie Machetto on

    I’m convinced. I still don’t think it was a crazy idea though. Even the Voice of Reason had the same thought.

  128. Manny?

    I got bored today, so I decided I’m going to learn Portuguese.

    In honor of Robyn Regehr! The only Brazilian in the NHL!

  129. Mama: “Do not take me for some conjuror of cheap tricks!”

    All Others: (Fear)

  130. Doodie Machetto on

    I’d be fine with dealing McDonagh over MDZ so long as the rest of the deal reflected the difference in value.

  131. Don’t make up reasons Latona…..I know you just want to talk to all the brazilian ladies at the salon you get waxed at!

  132. Manny, LMAO! “I am not trying to rob you. I’m trying to help you!”

    Latona: Let’ s vai guardas florestais!

  133. Orr, my buddy at work lives in CT. He said the pizza at Colony Grill is actually really tasty!

    However, I am not sure if it’s cheesetastic! :P

  134. That was in response to the lunch post.

    But yes, something about something in Portuguese!

  135. ha! that was LGR in Portuguese, at least according to my google translator :)

  136. Manny,

    Just because we’ve exchanged some e-mails doesn’t mean you can start telling everyone about my private life! Sheesh!

  137. Ah, I should have thought of Google Translate.

    But then again, I don’t cheat. I accept the fact I know nothing about Portuguese, other than it’s a Romance language, it’s spoken in Portugal, Brazil, Mozambique, and Cape Verde? (I think), and that they own good steakhouses.

  138. i would also trade McDonagh in a deal for Stastny but only if that means the Rangers keep Anisimov.

    I would do McDonagh, Grachev, Zuccarello and a 1st rounder for Stastny. As much as i like McDonagh, the trade for Erixon allows them to move one of their other young d-men…

  139. 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Boston Bruins on

    Hmoob ops We win Stanley Cup aha aha I like it

  140. Latona, it was easier, cheaper and faster than calling the embassy :)

    Manny, sending you a msg on FB…..

  141. wicky?

    I thought the great iBob had Richards being traded to the Leafs a week ago? Now he’s sticking his neck out about as far as Barry Trotz can to speculate that the Leafs and Rangers might, maybe be interested in a deal at some unspecified point either soon or not soon. Do keep us informed…

  142. LW3H

    Lol.. that was a good one.

    Like I said though, Drury/others should only be bought out if Richards is coming! Otherwise, just wait it out.

  143. Is Hmoob ops Portuguese for idiot? Sorry, folks, couldn’t help it. Besides, I think the Hmoob ops will be gone soon enough :)

  144. 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Boston Bruins on

    Laheyknat 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Bruins

  145. Doodie Machetto on

    In fact, the more and more I read about this Erixon kid, the more I think it’s McDonagh that is the expendable blue chip prospect instead of MDZ, since MDZ is the only real blue chip offensive prospect we have.

  146. I would cry if we traded MZA and McDonut and Grachev….

    But, my tears of pain would eventually be tears of joy…

  147. CTBlueshirt on

    Erixon is more of a two way D from what I’ve read. Not Jack Johnson/Mike Green numbers on offense but he also knows he’s supposed to help keep goals out not just set them up like those two. I think the Rangers are a bit heavy on stay at home guys so they could afford to lose one, but I really liked what I saw from McD last year and could live with his offensive upside being only like 25 points a year.

  148. why don’t they give so and so forward another chance, etc? because the COACH, Torts has determined by a season of watching them that they do NOT measure up, especially in the defensive dept or the grit dept or the effort dept or the clutch dept or the durability dept or the big game raise your level dept

    in short, Torts recommends to Sather that he get rid of this guy or that guy because he has no intention of PLAYING them big minutes after watching their lacklustre effort last season. and that is the way it should be, the coach should determine who is lacking and should not be brought back so that the team improves. of course the contracts and the cap come into play in all this, so that is where the GM has to sort it out and make decisions. but i certainly trust Torts judgment on players’ worth, more than I do Sather

    and I believe torts wants Richards here, so that is why he is suggesting that they clear the decks of cap space to sign him. also, Torts likes his young players here, and he does not want to see them traded away.

  149. CTBlueshirt on

    But yeah if he can packaged with MZA and Grachev for Stastny, it would be hard to turn that down.

  150. hadfield, I’m with you on much of that post.

    Latona, I said, sorry….just cleaning out my fridge of garbage :) I’m a bit cranky today, can’t ya tell!

  151. Doodie Machetto

    I would not be surprised if one of McDonagh or Del Zotto is gone by the time August comes around. In fact i think its pretty likely one of them does go.

    Either way the Rangers will be in good shape regardless of which one gets traded…

  152. Mama,

    For being cranky, you are rather kind about it! But never feel like you have to apologize to me!

    Why do we need to give up so much for Stastny? The Avs have a high enough pick in the draft where they could easily get a quality number 2 center to play behind Duchene, as I think he’s passed Stastny on their depth charts. Say they get Couturier or Huberdeau, they could easily develop into a second line center role. They’d then have Duchene-Couturier/Huberdeau/O’Reilly and a fourth liner.. Stastny may become replaceable.

  153. Oops.. O’Reilly is penciled in as the third line center. Second line spot is between Couturier/Huberdeau.. or possibly even Landeskog. I know he plays wing, but, they can mold him into a center.

  154. Latona, I try, and I don’t :)

    LOL, we should get Huberdeau just cause we could have so much fun with his name :)

  155. You guys are delirious if you think we can trade a 1st round pick + spare parts for colorado’s best player. Unless we blow them out of the water with an offer there is no way we are getting Stastny, we need to offer them 2 ROSTER players and a 1st rounder at the minimum in order to even entice them. Our best bet is to go after Richards, especially since torts loves the guy. This guy has all star talent and has shown it throughout the years, if we are only 2-3 years away from a really solid cup run (i think we could even make a run this year if everyone improves, we get our PP working, and our rookies surprise us) why does everyone think Richards for 5 years a bad thing?

  156. True Blue Mike on

    This sucks. I haven’t had enough time to engage in some Rangers talk with you boneheads lately.

  157. Doodie Machetto on

    I looked at Kovalchuk’s contract breakdown. His deal at one point goes 10-7-4-1 in salary. Based on that, I’ve revised my Stamkos offer sheet proposal. Still 10 years, 78 million, but now broken down as follows:

    12-12-12-12-10-7-4-1-4-4.

    Let’s see Tampa match 12 million up front for 4 years.

  158. Doodie Machetto on

    maybe even add on another two years. 12 years, 7.8 per:

    12-12-12-12-12-10-7-4-1-3.6-4-4

    60 million over 5 years. Let Tampa match the dollars.

  159. 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Boston Bruins on

    Tremballa Bobby Orr Champion Tim Thomas Champion

  160. Doodie Machetto on

    Anyone else wish they knew where to find this guy to troll him when Boston loses?

  161. True Blue Mike on

    Staal-Girardi
    Sauer-McD
    Erixon-MDZ

    Let’s hope for that line up of defensemen on opening night. If the happens and its very possible. Then we have Valtenko, Gilroy, Mclrath, and Kundratek to make a trade if needed. I would stay away from Richards.

  162. Calad,

    That was my point. I don’t think Colorado sees Stastny as their best player. I think they see Duchene as their best player, ergo I think we can get him for that first rounder and not spare parts, but decent players that could fill a role.

  163. Doodie, in my past life I could have :) hmmmmm. Maybe I still can. Good question!

    All this salary talk is making me wish I was an NHL player :) If I had Dru’s buyout, I’d never have to work again and just eat pizza!

  164. Stay away from Richards! Yes! I don’t want a “Kovalchuck” on my team, and he’s only 28!

  165. Doodie Machetto on

    Wait.. I thought Teddy was Tiki?

    True Blue, I don’t think Gilroy would be with the team anymore in that scenario. Also, Valentenko is likely headed to the KHL now that we got Erixon. We could possibly trade his rights though.

    And you don’t move McIlrath. He is supposed to fill a hole on the blue line for that crease-clearer that we don’t have.

  166. Doodie Machetto on

    So what do people think of my revised Stamkos offer sheets? There is a point at which it might become just too expensive dollar wise for Tampa to keep him.

    That 12 year offer. Your team is barely making a profit, if at all, and now you are in the hole for 70 million in the next 6 years on one guy.

  167. NYR, I discussed this earlier. Quit it. Also as discussed, I’m in a bad mood……

  168. Personally, Doodie, I don’t want Stamkos. But that would be the way to get him. And if it doesn’t deliver us Stamkos, it sure eliminates some competition in the conference.

  169. Nevermind, I just didn’t want to say the “T” word.

    I’m sorry, Mama. Cheer up! Pizza pants is gone!

  170. Doodie Machetto on

    Latona, I like goal scoring centers as opposed to playmakers. Playmakers need chemistry with their linemates. Sure, he tired out down the stretch, but he learned a lot in the playoffs about getting his hands dirty and scoring gritty goals by crashing the net. I think he scores 50 next year.

  171. Sorry!

    Who was that guy that used to post his website up here a lot….

    “A Hockey Blog”

  172. I think he’s very capable of scoring 50 as well, Doodie. He probably will. I just don’t personally like him on this team. Now, if we got him and he scored 50 for us, I’d probably be saying differently. But from what I know about him now, I would prefer Stastny or Richards. That’s just me though.

    The way you set up your offer, as I said, is effective.

  173. I’m happy Dru’s salary is off our books. I’m happy to talk hockey and gibberish. I am tired of the carcillo. I don’t generally, if ever, get into this stuff, but I’ve been pissed for a while and you all are not helping, so today I spewed…..Such is life with moi. mama love!

  174. Right now, Stastny is definitely the Avs best player. Maybe 2 or 3 years from now Duchene will be their best player, because he definitely has the most potential, but stastny has been putting up 1 point/game type numbers since he came into the league after the lockout. He is their established #1 go to guy right now. Even still, im sure the Avs know they could get way more on the open market for Stastny than role-players, unproven prospects, and a 1st round pick for a bonafide 1st line pivot.

  175. Doodie Machetto on

    I think if we did get Stamkos, I wouldn’t even pair him with Gaborik. I’d put him with Dubinsky and Callahan. We would have two lines with players who can score 40 plus. Lethal.

  176. Sorry: Who was the guy that posted his Rangers blog – but it had a picture of the Mets on the front page and hadn’t been updated in over a year.

    “A Rangers Blog”

  177. Doodie, we agree on something :)

    Latona, I love you best today……lunch is on me tomorrow :) send me the bill!

  178. Calad,

    I would say that Stastny is the best Av’s player, yes. But I just have this feeling that the Avs don’t see it that way.

  179. bull dog line on

    wow, we sure are willing to give up the farm for Stastny.
    who, by the way, has had all of 2 70 pt seasons. I understand he is still young, but all Richards is going to cost is money. Stastny, it seems according to most here, is going to cost all sorts of prospects.

  180. Doodie Machetto on

    I think the Avs see it that way, but see that Duchene is going to be better.

  181. Doodie Machetto on

    Three 70 point seasons. And he’s played on some pretty crummy teams.

  182. 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Boston Bruins on

    2011 Champion Brewin Bruins aha aha I like it aha aha

  183. bull dog, Dru, Redden etc. just “cost us money” too. I’m just hoping Torts/Slats are smart. They were last year. They seem to be now, I hope. Build on what we have, don’t go tearing that apart. All I’m saying…July 1 is going to be sick!

  184. Carp

    use your dusted off-season shine box and shove it up that Bruins fan behind, please! ban him already! …please :)

  185. bull dog line on

    I am not a rumor guy, or a guy with a source ( love reading other peoples rumors), but I have heard from someone who may know the following.
    Richards wants to come to the Rangers. not will, but wants to. he also has ties to Toronto. not sure if he is from there. or has a house there, but it is one of those. I just forgot which.
    Anisimov is the most likely forward to be traded, if that is the route they go. same goes for MDZ. I was also told that they were going to by out Drury, I guess I am a little late on that one. there is more, but it is mostly stuff that we have talked about on here before.

  186. bull dog line on

    Mama,
    you seem to contradict yourself there. in order to trade for Stastny, you are going to have to tear some of it apart. I am not against that, but I can’t wait for the outrage here if it happens.

  187. Amen Doodie. We uphold the constitution! 1st Amendment! Public Domain! Objection! Overruled! You’re out of order! Motion! Pleading!

  188. Fascism Report might be the funniest thing I have ever seen written on this blog.

  189. Doodie….honestly. I am still laughing about “Fascism Report.” I can’t get enough of it.

  190. holy heck, I just realized troll is channeling KC and the Sunshine Band. Says a lot :)

  191. bull dog, to semi-quote the bard David Byrne, I have stopped making sense, apparently. :) Been a long day …..

  192. Lol. Facism Report.

    Some people do need to be silenced, however. Ban! Ban! Ban!

  193. Thanks C3 :) at least the kid was laughing…..gibberish = throw backpacks. A new RR theme! I backpack you!

  194. Manny said public execution. Doodie said Facism Report.

    A kid being pelted with backpacks seemed to be the friendliest kind of public execution I could find. And he’s Russian; the Soviet Union’s biggest enemy pre-Cold War was facism.

    It just seemed to fit.

  195. Doodie Machetto on

    If we don’t believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don’t believe in it at all. ~Noam Chomsky

  196. Doodie Machetto on

    As to the evil which results from a censorship, it is impossible to measure it, for it is impossible to tell where it ends.
    Jeremy Bentham

  197. Doodie Machetto on

    We are willing enough to praise freedom when she is safely tucked away in the past and cannot be a nuisance. In the present, amidst dangers whose outcome we cannot foresee, we get nervous about her, and admit censorship.
    E. M. Forster

  198. Herb Brooks used to say about Mike Eruzione, who made a fortune on the motivational dinner circuit: “Eruzione believes in free speech, he just doesn’t believe in giving them.”

    And I believe in freedom of speech, but I have no idea what this particular jackwagon is getting out of repeatedly pointing out the sorry state of his team these last 39 years. And I’m quite certain he won’t have the onions to show his face here when the Bruins are vanquished by Vancouver (which, by the way, is 0-2 against New York teams in the finals).

  199. Boom Boom Bathgate on

    Doodie, how much better is Erixon than Valentenko, that we had to give up a couple high draft choices to get him?

  200. Boom Boom,

    I think Erixon was regarded as Calgary’s top prospect. I don’t know how that compares to Valentenko as the NYR prospect pool is deeper, but everything I’ve read said he can make the team out of camp.

  201. Carp, without you, there is nothing :) I gotta go for the night…..oh what a day. Ta!

  202. Doodie Machetto on

    Boom Boom, I’ve never seen the kid play. All of the scouting reports I’ve read say he’s about as close to NHL ready as you can get. Certainly his Elisterien numbers support such a conclusion. The Rangers had Erixon rated as a top 10 pick if he reentered the draft, so I can only imagine that they have him penciled in as an opening day roster spot, given the young corps we carry.

    Further, Valentenko is also a left handed shot. Currently, that puts him in competition with Erixon and MDZ in that respect. I just don’t see him beating out both guys. He’s left the AHL before to go to Russia. I just see him doing it again this summer.

  203. Valentenko is most likely going to the KHL if the Rangers don’t trade him.

  204. Unless the Rangers defensive corps is decimated by injury, Valentenko is most likely not going to see any NHL action next season.

  205. just caught up on posts from today.

    doodie

    the thought of stamkos in nyr uniform just made me wet my pants. i like your deal. slats are you in?

  206. Boom Boom Bathgate on

    Thanks everyone, for the clarification. I just don’t like to see prospects fade out of our system, from Werek, to Valentenko and so many others. Wish we could stockpile all of them, knowing injuries occur. Suppose we deal MDZ and Valentenko goes KHL, and then blueline injuries pile up? Can’t have too many blue chip prospect kids, I say. And picking up fossils like McCabe is NOT the answer, Slats. A better answer than that has to come from within the system.

  207. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    facism, LMAO!!

    Shinebox pic hilarious!!

  208. V-Tank will get his chance. McDonut was in his position when the season started, skip to a couple of months later, he’s not a fixture on the blue line.

    That’s assuming Erixon actually outplays him in camp, and wins the spot.

    Besides, if V-Tank is such a girl, that he has to go to the KHL just because he can’t make the team, then fugg him, I don’t want him, just like Illka Heineken.

    Enough is ENOUGH!!! I have had it with these mother fuggin Euro pansies, on this mother fuggin team!!

  209. Good night and happy birthday, Carp! I’m sorry I missed it but I promise to celebrate extra hard in order to make it up. How does it feel to be 26?

  210. Nearly 400 posts on an off day in the middle of summer= the gang here are rockstars

    Sooo, Drury might actually be bought out. Will wonders never cease. Good for the organization to make this decision. I do, however, wish Drury the best of luck. He wasn’t the worst player ever to wear the Rangers jersey and I truly believe he’s not a bad guy. It was just the contract that was awful.

    Boston has really turned it on the past 2 games and the Canucks look lost and worn out. Should be interesting to see the crowd’s reaction if Luongo lets in another early one.

  211. NYR_FAN says "Richards is not the answer." on

    Great 4th period so far!

    It’s 2-3-2, like it used to be in hockey, Orr….

  212. Wicky (Going with the 18" tires on this thing) on

    Is brad richards a ranger yet?

    Sorry, I had to ask!

  213. That only works with NY teams! I hope! Come to think of it, I did watch the World Series last year. A Texas team was playing!!!

    I also watched the Cowboys playoff game where Tony Romo fumbled the ball on a field goal and almost scored a touchdown before getting tripped, resulting in his teams elimination!

    Uh oh!

  214. It seems as tho Jason Kidd’s been around forever…

    I remember Nets went to the final twice with Kidd… I used to watch basketball back then lol

  215. Only in Sather’s dreams, wicky. Which, come to think of it, I dont’want to be anywhere near those.

  216. And a belated Happy Natal Day to Carp, You don’t look a day over 25, even though you turned 26.

  217. Mister Delaware on

    “I have had it with these mother fuggin Euro pansies, on this mother fuggin team!!”

    “Totally!” – Eric Christensen

  218. 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Boston Bruins on

    Help tornado victims Robertson, but no work on improving as pitcher. Priorities eschew

  219. 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Boston Bruins on

    aha aha I like it aha aha. We sweep we win. Skankees loser 2011 Bruins Champion. Robertson loser, Bruins help community, Skankees no help.

  220. JimboWoodside on

    I getcha, 3CP……I didn’t think that Brighton Beach had problems like that, but maybe this was just a “fluke”….

  221. 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Boston Bruins on

    We win Lord Stanley 6 time. We win no time for loser aha aha I like it aha aha. We sweep, we win. Thomas winner Longo loser Lundquist loser. Skankees loser we winner. No time for Rangers. We best

  222. 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Boston Bruins on

    Winner winner chicken dinner. number 4 Bobby Orr, we win all, we best Longo lose we win Lord Stanley home

  223. 2011 Stanley Cup Champions Boston Bruins on

    Smell ? R*ng*rs loser Br*w*ns winner Lord Stanley dinner

  224. Regarding the term “waffleboard” I remember a hockey announcer (though I can’t remember which one) using the term “waffleboard save” meaning the blocker glove a long time ago.

    Doc using the term is nothing new. He is the only one that I hear that says nonsense like spiriting the puck, knifing the puck, filtering the puck, etc

  225. Oh that Brighton beach shooting was horrible.

    I read about that. Then there was a horrendous lightning storm and for some reason FIREWORKS during the storm. I thought we were getting bombed. The British are Coming!!! (No Offense LW)

  226. Drury buyout looks like areality what are people going to bitch about now?????????????

  227. From SNY:

    Jeff Carter trade talks?

    “The Blue Jackets would send the eighth overall pick and a top six forward, believed to be Jakub Voracek, to the Flyers for Carter.”

    I wonder if Slats is also in on Carter. The Rangers can probably offer a better package….

  228. Price would go up for Carter if they’re dealing with a division rival.

    Also an 11 year deal to take on as well.

  229. Yes, CTB, but it is a managable cap hit and he’s fairly young (compared to some other options via trade or free agency)

    …though, according to CapGeek, the contract does have a full NTC after next season…I don’t like that…

  230. Although Jeff Carter is lethal in open ice situations and we really stink at 4-on-4….

  231. Drury buyout looks like areality what are people going to bitch about now?????????????

    —————

    we’ll bitch about that we have nothing to bitch about!

  232. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    Morning ILB and all!!

    well done last night manny, well done!!

  233. would you rather

    carter at 11 years and 5.5 cap hit or

    richards at 7 years 52 mil 7.4 cap hit

  234. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    I like voracek a lot, and methot as well from the jackets!

  235. LOL! I was wondering where I’ve seen Weiner’s nose before!

    NYR, I can’t see them trading us Carter unless we give them Lungfist, or someone like that.

    I hope Dreary does sign with the Isles. I’m dying to see him side by side with Tavares. Twins!

  236. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    CCCP
    LMFAO! You still coming out west at some point?

    according to the drury buyout article, avery and WW not getting bought out. Anyone else think those are directly related to IF richards signs here or not?

  237. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    orr
    yep, like carter for hank and prust and cally and kreider

  238. if drury goes bye bye not really any terrible contracts on the books(on the big club) until they blow it on brad richards. if richards is signed it will be a serious overpay in money and years and will come back to haunt the club that signs him.

    novel idea, rangers release drury and keep the money for a wait and see situation…..

    nah.. ranger fans will want a new toy that they will turn on in 6 to 24 months and not admit they demanded they get that toy when they bitch and moan…

    wolski buy out I am not sure of. I think he is worth keeping and if he plays like christenson then use them like yoyo’s in and out of the lineup all year. the yare great on shootouts and are good on occasion, when motivated…

  239. Rangers scored 7 goals (tied for 7th in the league) 4 on 4 and yielded 4 (tied for 2nd).

  240. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    I could be totally wrong here, but if avery is borderline in the line up (according to torts) but he is apparently buddies with richards, do the rangers publically say he isn’t going anywhere (even though his spot in the line-up seems tenuous on a game by game basis) to perhaps make the situation more appealing to richards?

    As far as WW is concerned, the way he played at the end of the caps series, with actual ice time and a play making centre like richards, he could have a very good season. So if we do not get richards, does the status of these two change…I think so (sorry mama)!

  241. would you rather

    carter at 11 years and 5.5 cap hit or

    richards at 7 years 52 mil 7.4 cap hit

    ——————————

    well..we don’t really know if Richards’ cap hit will be 7.4

    but if i had to chose, i would still chose Richards because of the contract length

  242. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    CCCP
    thought you were going to alaska or something?

  243. Wolski has a lot of upside. We need him to be good. But if he is consistently good he will be an amazing player.

  244. CCCP makes an annual pilgrimage to the small community where Jesus G?mez honed his deadly wristshot and stern interview technique.

  245. If Wolski was making like a million less or didn’t have the favorable buy out cap cost then I think they’d be inclined to hold onto him because he’s on the last of his deal. But because it’s very economical to buy him out they might do it. Maybe they’re waiting until the draft to try to trade him and then buy him out if they can’t find any takers.

  246. would you rather

    carter at 11 years and 5.5 cap hit or

    richards at 7 years 52 mil 7.4 cap hit

    ***

    What are the Rangers sending to get Carter?

  247. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    So someone on twitter asked if we should sign struds again as a vet d man…

  248. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    I would honestly (if we are not going to spend a decent amount of $$$ on a d man) like to see the rangers sign o brien if he is available.

  249. I think they’re going with the young D again this year. Staal/Girardi/Sauer/McD/MDZ/Erixon

  250. I got nothing’ … but do youse need a new thread … or should we wait for morning skate quotes from nhl. up to youse.

  251. LOL! I just saw a clip of LeBum James and Dwane “Herpes” Wade mocking Dirk ‘Diggler” Nowitzky before the last game. Bwaha! They have nobody to mock but themselves now!

    Go Bruins! Go Mavs! BOOM!

  252. Your favorite bonehead is here early for the SECOND day in a row..

    Too bad it’s not me!

  253. I’m having some Weight Watchers Philly Chicken Flatbread something or other. Looks good enough.

  254. My lunch has been a disaster. I started by eating some turkey sandwich….but the turkey I had at work was spoiled. After a few bites I noticed. So I went down to the deli but the line was long so I bought a prepared Chiken Parm (bad idea) and am now wolfing it down.

  255. The Chipotle Chicken looks good too! I don’t know why I don’t just eat there daily…

  256. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    Again time zone issues, so my lunch/breakfast…timmy’s coffee, scrambled eggs, and toast with boysenberry jelly (and butter).

  257. Subway used to make this OUTRAGEOUS chicken sub.. I forget what it’s called. They stopped serving it now. I think it was a Chicken P something..

  258. I love the Orchard Chicken Salad. I’m a big supporter of that. I think they just stopped serving it. The bastards!

    Latona, is it the Chicken Pizzaiol. I haven’t had that in ages!

    LOL @ boys berries!

  259. Orr,

    I don’t think so.. it might be. My cousin would know. He loved them even more than I did.

  260. Here is a fun question: How many of us chose Canucks in six and if so, do you actually think the Canucks can win the next two?

  261. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    boys berries…aha ha ha!

  262. I chose Canucks in six. I think they can win the next to.

    But will they?

    *Twilight Zone Theme*

  263. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 4 Latona lunch points!!) on

    manny
    I did and if they win gm 5 then I think they can win game 6, if not uh oh!

  264. Nice Latona! Good music reference. That really helped.

    I think the Bruins win in 7 now. Thomas wins Conn Smythe. Luongo gets beaten up. Publicly.

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