Brandon Dubin$ky isn’t going anywhere


You guys surprise me sometimes.

Yesterday Larry Brooks wrote that Brandon Dubinsky is seeking $4.5M per for multi-years and that he won’t get it from Glen Sather, and that a comparable player just signed for four years at $4M per.

And immediately some of you guys said “bye-bye” to Dubinsky, or started (again) the greedy talk, and, most surprisingly, began to talk about how he’s really not a very valuable player.

I don’t get that.

First of all, Dubinsky is negotiating. You start high. Surely Sather would like to sign him for $3M per, which is even more of a pipe dream. Dubinsky is going to get $4M per, if not a little more. Or will at least be in the neighborhood of that amount when the dust settles. It’s going to take a while.

Now, everybody remembers his stupid statement on breakup day, whatever it was, “they want me, I want them, let’s not waste each other’s time.” It didn’t need to be said that way, and it shouldn’t have been said that way. Negotiations such as these aren’t that simple, and Dubinsky’s already been through this once — and it cost him part of training camp last time, and it might again — unless he crumbles. And he won’t

So I expect this to take a while, but when it’s over, the Rangers will have Dubinsky and Dubinsky will have $4M per or so. And it has nothing to do with greed. This is pro sports. That’s the way it works. Period. Brian Leetch had to use his leverage to get is deal done, with a no-trade clause. Mark Messier used his leverage a few times. Heck, even Adam Graves had to stick to his guns to get the money his agent knew he deserved.

Now, if the Rangers can make a major trade and Dubinsky has to be a part of that, so be it. But they aren’t going to deal him because he wants to be paid. That would be more idiotic than Dubinsky’s breakup-day remark.

As for his value, you guys are nuts if you don’t think he’s a big, big piece of the Rangers roster, a major contributor, a guy who was so, so, so crucial to what they got done last year, especially in the first half, a guy who did it physically, offensively, who did it with his fists when needed, who came back way early from a broken leg.

Was he always great? Certainly not. Was he nearly as consistent as the Rangers need him to be? Nope. Does he have games where he glides? Yup. Was he spotty in the postseason, even with that dramatic GWG in the Rangers’ only playoff win? Yessiree.

But guys like this don’t grow on trees. He’s not a first-liner, though he could play on a first line if the Rangers had two first-line players. He’s a very, very good NHL second-liner, at worst, a player who does a lot for his team.

And he’s going to get paid. Eventually.


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I caught the entire OT of Game 2 (all 11 seconds after rushing home to see it). Saw bits and pieces of Games 1 and 2 on NHL Network’s next-day replays. Don’t know yet how much of Game 3 I’m going to see, but I sure hope to see some of it.


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  1. Thank You Carp, I couldn’t have said it any better. I don’t get the negativity from posters on this blog time to time towards Dubinsky.

  2. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    who is the comparable player that just signed for $4 Mio per year ? and how many years did that guy get ? (just wonderin)

    BTW, I think $4 Mio per year sounds about right for Dubie, just sayin…

  3. If Gordie Howe was Dubbinsky’s agent he wouldn’t accept anything over $1,850,000 for the next 5 years.

    Which brings me to *Net Worth* which is still available just for the asking. ;)

  4. yes, I hope we can sign Dubinsky for only 1.85 million for the next 5 years, that way we’ll have more space available to sign the Alex Frolov’s of the world to 3 million a year deals without batting an eyelash.

  5. Pretty much my thoughts exactly, Carp.

    (a) It’s a negotiation
    (b) It sounded like 20% insight, 80% conjecture when Brooks wrote about it
    (c) It’s a negotiation
    (d) According to Jesse Spector, if anyone did leak the $4.5m figure, it wasn’t Dubinsky’s camp
    (e) It’s a negotiation

    All of that equals “Trade this greedy, useless bum while we can” to some people.

  6. Amen, Carp! Pure business. He is a valuable player, and he will get paid. One thing Sather did well is signing Staal to a pretty reasonable contract. That is your benchmark, give or take. I think both Dubinsky and Callahan will be signed to very similar numbers as Staal did. And I believe it will be done before the camp. Come to think of it, if the number Dubinsky is asking ( $4.5M) is really true, it shouldnt be a long process.

    Good morning, boneheads!

  7. cally needs need to make more then dubinksy. 4.5 for cally 4 for dubi. lets get it done.

    buy out drury

  8. hockeypuckck on

    of course sean avery the horse would win the race. how else could he finish, in sloppy second? i think that was the dion phaneuf horse, sir.

  9. Carp, I mostly agree with what you wrote.

    Yet, I don’t think Dubinsky should be getting $4m. It’s too high for guy like him. His numbers don’t warrant it. He is a second liner with limited offensive skill, who had a pretty good season last year, his best ever.

    I think he’d be very, very lucky to get $3.75m. That is even high. Why does he deserve such a raise? He made $1.85 last year…

    Drew Stafford scored 31 goals in 62 games, not to mention 11 power goals, and he only get’s $4m next year. I don’t think Dubi has to the offensive ability to do that at this stage in his career….Dubi had 4 PPGs and 5 ENGs last season…just sayin’

    I think Dubi showed that he is a good, effective player, but he is not someone that can carry a team for a whole season or lead your offense attack effectively. Rangers need to make tough decisions. This is about the future and building the right core of guys. I am still not sure that Dubi is a long term piece to the puzzle….

  10. Luigi isn’t going anywhere because no other team is going to offer him that much money. Also, I think he will stick around because he is valuable to this team.

  11. Doodie Machetto on

    “So, Bravo was on Sean Avery, and Sean Avery was on Bravo!”

    Einhorn is Finkle! Finkle is Einhorn!

    Sean Avery is a horse!

  12. I like Dubinksky, and I do agree with Carp that he’s a solid 2nd liner. We’d have a hard time getting someone like him for the money he’s asking… that had any *loyalty* to this team. I hope Carp is wrong, and this is nothing like last time, or these meatheads won’t resolve this until game 1.

  13. Doodie Machetto on

    I think Sather is going to come in at 3 million, Dubinsky at 4.5, the arbitrator splits it down the middle so that Dubinsky gets a 1 year deal for 3.75, and he walks at the end of the year because of all of the nasty stuff that gets said at arbitration.

    Drew Stafford just signed four years at four million per after potting 31 goals in 62 games. I think that is going to be the contract that models Dubinsky’s.

  14. That’s probably what’s going to happen, Doodie. Exactly like that.

    In my opinion, that’s what he wants. He wants another short deal, and then he’ll be a UFA, and some garbage team, with a lot of cap room, will take a chance on him, and will pay him big money, even if he has another 20+ goal year.

    I’d like him to prove me wrong, but I just don’t trust the guy.

    Like I said, either way, I don’t care. He’s not the be-all, end-all of this team, that’s for sure.

  15. “All by myself……don’t wanna be…all by myself…..”

    which is played as Luigi skates into the distance.

  16. Dubinsky's Dad's Greasy Hair on

    Messier, Graves, Leetch? For real? These are the best comparisons you could come up with? These were all-stars, cup winners, first liners, and during a non-cap era.

  17. Dad, the point is, it doesn’t reflect on a person to negotiate hard when it’s time do do business. That’s part of the game and everybody does it. The GM is negotiating hard. Why shouldn’t the player.

    You really can’t be thinking that I was comparing Dubinsky to Messier, Leetch and Graves, could you?

  18. Wicky (Going with the 18" tires on this thing) on

    Guess this is all my fault for posting the “buh bye” statement yesterday just to stir the pot on a slow day.

    I do think most people here understand it is a negotiating process. Seems pretty ridiculous that has to pointed out!

    I agree with the voice of reason on the salary and dubi is simply not the be all end all on this roster, but is a nice player. Here’s hoping he doesn’t become an OPD!

  19. OPD?

    It would be a lot harder to replace Dubinsky with a player that makes less than $4M than it would be to pay him $4M. And he still has a higher upside.

    Good morning, Sally!

  20. czechthemout!!!! on

    Drew Stafford had a career year. His numbers have been comparable to Dubi’s the last few years.
    Dubi should get about the same money as Stafford and call it a day.

  21. Do you pay for potential. He’s 25. If Dubinsky comes in with identical years and we’re paying him 4M a year, we’ll be disappointed. The point being what we saw this year was not valued at 4M. Granted he had injuries but injuries are not excused and do not command a premium.

  22. Let the Dubi hate-fest begin! some of you are funnyyyyy!!

    his best season, ever?? of course, this is his 15th season in the league! OBVIOUSLY!

    Drew Stafford scored 31 goals last season? That is his best season EVER! Let’s all now level by Drew Stafford! Hold on…where was Drew Stafford before last season? I haven’t even heard of the guy before!

    wait, but Dubi had more points than Drew Stafford… hhmmm… I’m confused!!! ;)

  23. czechthemout!!!! on

    I don’t understand some of the Dubi hate on this blog. He had improved every year he’s been here. He would score over 60 points last year if not for the injuries. He still has not reached his prime and still has some upside to his numbers. The kid kills penalties. Scores goals. Sets up goals. Dives in front of shots. Drapes the gloves to protect his teammates. And yet , some people continue to berate him. I just don’t get it.

  24. Look – it’s like a draft – Dubinsky is the best available substitute for Dubinsky. So pay him and move on. Maybe you trade him, maybe you don’t. In the end though, there is no better option for Dubinsky than Dubisnky.

  25. I believe Dubinsky and Callahan will get similar, if not exactly the same contracts, length wise and money wise. About 5 years at around $4M per. Both, from a different points of view, bring similar values to the team. Both are home grown, young, part of the core players. No arbitration, but it will take some time.

  26. people tend to forget that Dubi was picked 60th overall! He exceeded *BY FAR* any expectations! And he is still improving every year…

    Drew Stafford, on the other hand, was picked 13th overall.

  27. the site is acting weird… does anyone else gets a message “start below fold” when refreshing the page?


  28. Some of the comparable forwards from Dubi’s draft year and cursory stats + cap hit:

    1st rounders
    Andrew Ladd 402 GP, 92 G, 116 A = 2.35M
    Blake Wheeler 244 GP, 57 G, 70 A = 2.2M
    Rostislav Olesz 349 GP, 57 G, 75 A = 3.125M
    Drew Stafford 317 GP, 94 G, 102 A = 4.0M
    Lauri Korpikoski 218 GP, 30 G, 35 A = 700K
    Travis Zajac 408 GP, 89 G, 160 A = 3.8875M
    Wojtek Wolski 393 GP, 91 G, 155 A = 3.8M

    2nd rounders
    David Bolland 221 GP, 44 G, 73 A = 3.375
    Blake Comeau 245 GP, 56 G, 64 A = 650K
    David Booth 303 GP, 87 G, 79 A = 4.25M
    Brandon Dubinsky 316 GP, 71 G, 108 A = ?
    David Krejci 298 GP, 58 G, 156 A = 3.75M

    I would think that 3.5M is the minimum to get Sather and his agent into the same ballpark, let alone on the same page.

  29. I would rather have Dubinsky. His outstanding 1st half might have been a fluke but maybe his 2nd half play was just the injury, who knows.

    What I do know is that he is a homegrown player and fan favorite and was on pace for 30+ goals and 35+ assists until he got injured so the upside is still there…

  30. CCCP – I am getting no weird error messages

    CT – Thanks for posting that. That is really awesome.

    I think it’s important to remember that NY is a really expensive place to live. I have had this argument with people before and really all salaries are higher in this city than they are elsewhere because of the cost of living. I think the stat was something like you have to make 60% more in the city to be making the same as you would elsewhere. Thus, it makes sense that Dubinsky would make more than someone living in Pittsburgh. It’s just the nature of the big city. It would be really helpful if the NHL pro-rated the cap based on cost of living. But until then, it just is something we have to live with.

  31. lol CT!

    what i actually meant was that people turn crazy when they hear that Dubi might get 4mill but are ok with 3.5?? so…what’s the difference? The more Dubi gets, the less Slats will overpay for some albatross… better give it to homegrown

  32. dubi is a good player . he is not $4 mill good… stafford is more valauble.

    $3.5 mill is fair…

  33. the difference is 1/2 a mill per year. 4 bad overpays of 1/2 mill each and you have $2 mill less to spend.

    I assume Sather will be smart in signings, key word is assume…

  34. Stafford had a huge jump this season compared to his last 3. Particularly in points per game. Break out year or fluke?

    He’s also only played more than 71 games just once in his career.

  35. Doodie Machetto on

    I’d say that Dubinsky and Stafford are different kinds of players. I think Dubinsky is more of a 25 goal, 35 assist kind of player, who can play physically hard and kill penalties. He also is prone to the occasional dumb penalty, which you hope would go away with maturity.

    I think Stafford has more of a natural scorer and has more potential in that department. I think 30 goals might become a regular thing for him, even if his assists probably cap out at about 30 as well. He’s also a pretty good two-way player, but not as much as a physical presence as Dubinsky.

    It’s a tough call. I think that Dubinsky should get similar numbers to Stafford, which is why I chose him for the comparison.

    And CCCP, yes, Dubi had more points, but it was only two more and he played in 15 more games. Stafford had a goal every other game, which is Gaborik’s pace from two years ago.

  36. Mister Delaware on

    “the difference is 1/2 a mill per year. 4 bad overpays of 1/2 mill each and you have $2 mill less to spend.”

    That’s two full seasons of Patrick Rissmiller!

  37. Doodie Machetto on

    CTB, that comparable forwards list is a bit misleading because it doesn’t take account when the contracts were signed.

    Only Stafford is a fair comparison since his contract was just signed.

  38. Doodie,

    I think Stafford could be on his way to becoming a consistent high 20’s-low 30’s guy, but his jump this year to 0.5 goals/game was a considerable spike when his other seasons were in the 0.25 to 0.30 range. He had 4 hat tricks this season, something I’m not sure we could expect going forward.

    Still, with all that being said I’m sure his contract will be used as a comparable in negotiations.

  39. Manny, excellent point and one that seems incredibly unfair. Cost of living in the NY area yet no cap adjustment. I’m surprised with the cap talk this subject is not discussed more. Perhaps someone can explain the other side. Seems to me the higher cost of living areas are at a clear and distinct disadvantage. No, players do not have to live in the area year round, but they have to live around MSG/Westchester/NJ during the season. Players have higher endorsement opportunities and are therefore willing to accept less salary? I doubt that.

  40. Doodie Machetto on

    CTB, yes, it was a marked jump, but in fairness, last season, the whole Sabres team scoring was down. Even Vanek didn’t get 30.

    And if you want to talk about multiple hat tricks, then you have to talk about how many empty netters Dubi gets.

  41. Doodie,

    Yes, there’s differences when those contracts were signed and there’s quite a few of them where it looks like the teams bought out some initial arbitration years and bumped up the respective player to the latter stages of RFA compensation.

    So the inherent assumption is that most of the deals attempt to gravitate to around what those players would have made had they gone through annual negotiations. The difference being the multiyear deals overpay on the front end and slightly underpay at the back but in aggregate they award fair market value.

  42. Ladd is also an impending RFA, I think, and arguably a more comparable player to Dubi than Stafford is in terms of style, so his deal might be a big influence (if he signs first). Given he is the team captain too, maybe the ThrasherJetMooses overpay him to make a splash. Or maybe the new GM won’t be reading from the handbook Don Waddell left behind.

    Put me in the camp that thinks Stafford is more likely to be a regular 25-goalscorer than a (pro-rated) 40-goal man. Pretty sure he has been in the doghouse regularly in Buffalo and his numbers were a bit freakish this year with all the hat-tricks.

  43. Thanks BMac. Players also have to pay additional taxes playing in big cities and New York is a triple tax municipality. So these guys have to make a lot more in NYC to take home what they would make in say, Pittsburgh.

    If I am offered a job in NYC for $30K, I know I can’t live on that at all. If I am offered the same job in Pittsburgh, Louisiana I know that I will be living a middle class lifestyle. It just doesn’t make sense to have everyone be equal just because the amount of money being made is enormous. CEO’s make more money and the CEO salaries in big cities are higher than those in lower cost areas.

  44. Would you really deduct all the empty netters though? I mean there’s a good chance that Dubi is out there defending a lead in the last minute given the role he plays. Maybe if he doesn’t get the stress fracture he scores a few more goals (non empty net) and it’s a moot point.

  45. Doodie Machetto on

    CTB, yes, but you also discount other factors, such as the slowed growth of the cap at the time some of the contracts were signed (there was even fear of reduction at one point), as well as the fact that some of the players are RFA right now as well, such as Andrew Ladd (whom I expect to be the highest paid among all of those players).

    Bolland got more than he deserved because of the Blackhawks qualifying offer mistakes.

    Booth was coming off of a Stafford-esque season. He got a little more than Stafford because it takes him all the way to UFA and because it’s Florida, so they have to pay people to want to play there.

    Krejci was coming off 70 points, which immediately makes him a different class of player than Dubinsky. But since it was really his first pro season, and since, at the time, he was a 3rd line Center for them, his number is lower. He would easily get 5 million on the open market today, especially after his strong playoffs and consistently strong playoff performances at every level, including prior NHL postseasons.

    Really, I think the Stafford contract is the most comparable. He’s a better goal scorer, so he gets more hard dollars, but if you want to pay for “intangibles” then I think Dubinsky matches him in monetary worth.

  46. Doodie Machetto on

    CTB, so it shows he has defensive value, not 5 extra goals value.

    And you can’t play the “but if he wasn’t injured” card because 1) if Stafford doesn’t have his injuries he might’ve scored 40; and 2) Dubi got hurt because of how he plays. You are buying the potential for grinding injuries, just like we are buying the potential for Callahan to break things while blocking shots.

  47. I say throw a huge RFA offer sheet at Blake Comeau, judging by those numbers. If only to stop him scoring all his 10 goals a year against the Rangers.

  48. I wouldn’t exclude the engs. First of all, they seal games. Second, you have to be a pretty good player to be out there with a 1-goal lead in the last minute of a game, especially on a team that doesn’t score much. How would you feel if they didn’t get those engs and maybe had to go OT or lose those games?

    Great players get loads of engs.

    So, would anybody trade Dubinsky for Stafford straight up?

    BMac, I don’t think there’s a chance he signs for $3.5M and I don’t blame him.

  49. Good afternoon all! wicky, missed yesterday’s post by you, but nice job and thanks!

    Who’s saying bye bye Dubi??? Geez, the bonehead name lives on! :)

  50. CTBlueshirt on

    So his defensive value will present him the chance to be predictably on the ice more often when there’s an empty net. I agree that you can scale back some of his goals because 5 ENG a year is not likely to happen again but it doesn’t mean that the alternative outcome is scoring 0 ENG either.

  51. Doodie Machetto on

    Carp, it’s one thing to have a few, but when it accounts for over 20% of your goals, you have to discount them some. Yes, it shows they trust him to be out on the ice in that situation, but call me crazy, I’d rather have the guy that scores the goals that make the other team pull the goalie than the guy who can score on the empty net.

  52. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    Thanks tomg for the answers…(Stafford 4 years)

    I can certainly see them as being comparable value players. They are not completely different players.

    Both play 4 PP mins per game and 2 PK mins per game and over total 20 mins per game.

    Stafford more of a goal scorer and Dubie more of a playmaker.

    Personally, on the goal starved Rangers, yes I would make the trade straight up.

  53. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    Carp…thar does not mean I want to make the trade…I want to keep Dubie…I was just sayin they are in fact about even value as players.

  54. i don’t think its worth debating since Dubinsky is going to be resigned and he is going to make somewhere around 4 mil a year (my guess is 3.75) but whether its 3.5 or 3.75 or 3.8 or 4 its not like that extra 500K means much…

  55. Doodie Machetto on

    CTB, I didn’t suggest you have to take them all away, but I’m saying you can’t just take away all of Stafford’s hat tricks because he had a large number of them.

    Carp, I’d take Dubinsky over Stafford just because of the way our team is built. Stafford is a right wing, for which we already have two players entrenched in that role ahead of him in Gaborik and Callahan. Dubinsky is a left wing/center, two positions that he could be our number 1 guy at simply because we don’t currently have any top talent in those positions (although we have a lot of potential down the middle in Stepan and Anisimov).

  56. Has anyone heard from Tony? There are some pretty large wild-fires going on there….I am not sure if he started them but I still hope he’s safe and I sure hope if he was evacuated he brought pants!

  57. Carp, Stafford will have to prove that he is able to score 30+ goals consistently, Dubinsky will have to prove that he can not before we talk about that trade.Because of all other intangibles at the moment, I’d have to say- no, thanks.

  58. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    you are welcome and anything to get carp that $1.25 (or whatever it is now) per on a slow day!

    It was that or bring up fowler and his impending norris trophy at the end of the playoffs.

    OPD=Over Paid Dubinsky

    I Personally I agree with most here that seem to think 3.5 to 4 mil per season for about 4 or 5 years would be fair. I think cally will get a bit more.

    I think stafford is a better natural scorer, but it could be an aberration (this season). So could dubi’s though (just playing devil’s advocate). If dubi wasn’t so horrible defencively, he would def be better than stafford IMHO!

    Can’t wait to see how it all plays out and the “I told you so” barbs will be flying around like crazy.

  59. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    I’m not going to comment on that

  60. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    well put doodie

    BTW, who gives a crap if it is a homegrown player or not? I mean if he is better than someone else keep him, and if he isn’t then get a better guy.

  61. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    I’m not going to comment on that!

  62. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    the guy that writes for the edmonton journal says he thinks richards will sign a 7yr 40 mil contract with the rangers (matheson is his name I think)…

  63. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    no, thank you carp!

  64. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    or maybe that was dubi’s contract LOL

  65. CTBlueshirt on

    Does the guy also talk about the corresponding roster moves that would need to be made in order to fit that cap hit?

  66. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    not that I saw (convenient right). sorry. it was just that blurb

  67. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    I’m not going to comment on that!!

  68. YOu know when I first sent that film Net Value to Ilb2001, I knew that he would be impressed by the historical aspect of it, and without question there would be an only to be expected comparison of what had occurred with the stars of yesteryear ( you know all those guys in the Hall of Fame,?) and the film really grips you when you start comparing what the players are DEMANDING today and what they had to accept back then. The strangle hold that the owners had on the players…and Ted Lindsay stood alone. As I read the in put of what all of the bonesters have to say about their opinions on how the players should be remunerated, I am more convinced than ever that they should ALL view this film. I meant it to be the fore runner of a possible Bonehead library of film as they develop. Everyone is busy now, but keep that film safe. and folks .. ya really should take the time to see it.

  69. id take dubi over stafford but not by much. both are 3.5 to 4 mil dollar players in this league today.

  70. Carp – Awesome points. Agree with every single one. Dubinsky at $4 million. Period. It’ll get done for him and Callahan. If Cally is the future captain, Dubes is his assistant.

    NYR_FAN – “He is a second liner with limited offensive skill, who had a pretty good season last year, his best ever.”

    Are you kidding? Really? This is a guy who has improved every season since joining the team…and were it not for injuries, would have netted 60-plus points. That’s not exactly ‘limited offensive skill.’

    Doodie – You have no idea what you’re talking about if you think Dubinsky wants to walk. That kid basically bleeds Ranger blue. I’d be astounded if the team doesn’t sign him for a long-term contract.

  71. Doodie Machetto on

    “Doodie – You have no idea what you’re talking about if you think Dubinsky wants to walk. That kid basically bleeds Ranger blue. I’d be astounded if the team doesn’t sign him for a long-term contract.”

    Let’s see how he feels after an arbitration when Sather spends two days basically saying why Dubinsky is worthless. I can’t think of a player that went to arbitration and then stayed long-term with the team he went to arbitration with. I can think of plenty that were gone within 2 years.

  72. fran, the DVD is safe and ready to be shipped to the next Bonehead that wants to see it.

  73. Trim is mad expensive in the city…so i dont know if stach can survive on 1.5 mill living in the city! :)

  74. I just got some “single origin coffee” at Gregory’s coffee. That makes me an annoying person. It took 7 minutes to brew my cup. Lame. Hating myself.

  75. phil, I am not kidding. Really. He seriously impressed me in the first 2 months of the season. He was among the league leaders in goals for a while. (12 goals by the end of November) He was the true MVP of the Rangers. I started to think he matured, and learned how to be a consummate pro, like Callahan…i.e. bring his “A” game every night. I was one of his biggest supporters, after not being his biggest fan in years past.

    Then, he came back down to earth and was in an awful slump. Soon after, it was announced he was hurt (leg stress fracture).

    When he came back from injury, he looked great in a few games (Boston EPIC win, for example) but, lousy and lost on most nights…then, I noticed his tendency to get easily frustrated (which has been consistent throughout his career) and it translated into his game.

    I want the kid to succeed as bad as anyone else…but he needs to put a consistent season together for me me to feel comfortable paying that kind of money over a few years…

  76. Thanks BANJ…..I e-mailed you back on FB…, I’m about to become the proud borrower of Net Worth. If anyone wants it after me, let me know. Or alert me on FB.

  77. Dubinsky’s season totals CONSISTENTLY go up every year! If that does not show you that he is becoming a consummate pro, then i don’t know what else to say…

    NOBODY plays hard all 82 games! Not even Callahan…

  78. Anyone who doesn’t want Dubi back is not a bonehead, I decided…..I love (most :) boneheads. They’re just idjits!

  79. The 21st century Dave Winfield. Little too early for that conclusion but he has a nice start on it.

  80. Hey I’m all for Dubi being a lifelong Ranger, but considering contracts now affect other player moves and contracts, lets pay him accordingly. I don’t see 4M. Does the guy have potential? Is he going to produce unlike he has produced before? This I have no idea, if management is confident that this guy will continue to improve (he’s 25) go for it.

  81. I think everyone wants Dublowsky back, aside from nosepicker, if he’s still out there.

    I just think his time as a Ranger is very limited. Unless Slats gives him what he wants.

    Just out of curiosity, if we lose him, will you all call him “Dublowsky”?

  82. “NOBODY plays hard all 82 games! Not even Callahan”

    Hello! May I introduce you to number 8? Mr. It’s Just Pain…..has the warm weather gone to all of your (bone)heads!!!!

  83. Nice post, Carp.

    Sup, y’all?

    I think $4,000,000 is just about right for both Dubi and Cally. And I can’t question the majority of the Rangers’ efforts. They are one of the hardest working teams in the league, unfortunately they don’t have the skill set to supplement that yet.

  84. “the guy that writes for the edmonton journal says he thinks richards will sign a 7yr 40 mil contract with the rangers (matheson is his name I think)…”

    After the Drury, Gomez, Redden contracts would Sather really go for 7 years knowing that he’ll be 38 at the end of the contract? I wonder if they front load the contract if the NHL would object to it since it isn’t totally ridiculous for him to be playing at age 38. I mean, it’s not like what the Devils tried to do with Kovalchuk.

  85. 40 mill over 7 years? that’s not that bad… that’s around 5.7 mill per year… now, if Slats can do that and not include ridiculous NMC or whatever else…that’d actually be sweet!

  86. Oy. If it happens and I’m proven wrong (highly unlikely :) I’ll be the first to say so (or I’m sure some of you will tell me asap), but there’s something in my gut (not lunch) that makes me very wary of such a deal. One man alone does not solve problems or make a winning team (see Gaborik in dictionary)

  87. Doodie – I seriously doubt Dubinksy goes to arbitration. That’s my point. It ain’t going to get that far. Just like Carp said, Dubes is an integral part of this franchise. On the open market, he’s almost guaranteed to get $4 million. The player who will basically dictate what Dubinsky makes is the Capital’s Laich. Very similar players in many ways. I’ll bet Laich is going to get at least $4 million. Maybe more.

    NYR_FAN – One thing we agree on is Dubinsky’s consistency. I do believe some of that has to do with his propensity for playing injured. That doesn’t mean he’s not a good offensive talent. If the Rangers put a ‘for sale’ sign on him, there would probably be 29 teams calling Sather to see the asking price.

    Cross Check – If Richards is willing to come here for a cap hit of $5.7 million, that’s a no-brainer signing! I’ve never been a fan of Richards and personally think Ranger fans(especially) over-rate his ability. But for that price, I’d be drooling over a Richards’ signing. If I were to guess, however, Richards’ cap hit is going to be at least $7 million. Then again, Kovalchuck signed at a $6.7 million hit. Interesting.

  88. Doodie Machetto on

    Panthers new marketing slogan is “we see red.”

    Coincidentally, that is also the slogan of their accounting department.

  89. I don’t hate Dubinsky. I think I’ve been honest and objective in my observations. I don’t have an “agenda” against Dubinsky…

    In fact, I don’t see any Dubinsky hate here today. I see a lot of thoughtful comments about him and how his salary is a concern for the Rangers over the next few seasons. Just sayin’.

  90. Doodie Machetto on

    phil, if you don’t think he makes it to arbitration, that’s one thing, but all I’m saying is that I think he might, and if he does, he probably won’t be back in 2012.

    Mama, I think it has something to do with them wearing red jerseys.

  91. Doodie, that is the stupidest slogan I ever heard then. I guess it also is “supposed” to mean, we’re tough, angry and ready to fight, like a bull? Still, it sounds like, we looked in the mirror and here we are…..who got paid 6 figures for that carcillo! I want their job!

  92. Doodie, that link is tremendously tremendous! It goes by fast, but the team names made me LMAO!

  93. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    BTW, seeing as Dubie is a RFA, the compensation required for another team to sign him is HUGE…like a 1st 2nd and 3rd pick ?…the leverage remains with the club, Dubie will be a Ranger at a still OK not overpaid price ($4 Mio, give or take $.1 on either side.)

  94. Doodie Machetto on

    This one, the RFA compensation scheme this year would allow a team to offer 4.7 for only a first and third, no second.

    Still a hefty price to pay, so I agree he won’t be poached. But he does have his right to arbitration, which could be even more damaging to the prospect of him being a Ranger in the long term.

  95. Doodie, I am so torn. Not to be sacrilegious, I’d love a sweep, but I’m kinda hoping the win is in game 5 so the local heads and I can meet/celebrate Friday….though I’d like the win tonight, loss Wed. then take it home Fri. ….Nucks, do we have a plan?

  96. Doodie Machetto on

    I said Canucks in 5 before the series Mama, so you might get your wish. And I would be at the meet and greet, but I am going to be in DC this weekend.

  97. I want 7 games also. Reduce the size of the off-season by a few days. This “hipstamatic” photo app is only going to keep me busy for so long.

  98. Doodie Machetto on

    See, I want the offseason to hit full stride soon. I’m fascinated by the draft and as soon as this pesky Stanley Cup Final is over, I will have loads of draft articles to read.

    The Rangers could be in line to land a good center. This Mika Zibanejad kid might slide some players down the draft. Who knows, maybe we somehow land up with Couturier. I’d possibly settle for Strome, but he is a bit on the small side.

    Make no mistake though, if a great player somehow falls to us at 15, do not McIlrath the pick! Take the best available!

  99. Doodie Machetto on

    Not that he has to try because he is that much more dominant than everyone else.

    In all seriousness though, he was dominating the league prior to getting hurt. Shame to have what would have been his career year cut short like that.

  100. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Free agents are NOT Free !!!"...says Greg L. on

    Bring on Free Agency ..

    Bring on the Draft….

    Bring on the awards…

    Get this stuiped lame muther firetrucker season OVER WITH!!!

    This season is going on forever!!!

    Bruins and Canucks are stuiped teams and i wanna puke just thinking we are not in it.

    Graabby did a good guest blog but it was tarnished cuz it was all about Bruins and Canucks..lame. Every team sucks but us.period.

  101. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Is it over yet?"...says Greg L. on

    GO RANGERS!!!!!! ahhhh feels gooood!!! RANGERS RANGERS RANGERS!!!!!! ahhh it does feel good.

  102. My favourite part of that McNeill profile:

    “His father, Bernie, played in the WHL for the Edmonton Oil Kings and went on to play in Australia for the Sidney All-Stars…”

    Er, that would be *Sydney*, Australia, I think. No Crosby obsession on None at all…

  103. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Vinny , Yes . Richards , No. !!!"...says Greg L. on

    WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO RANGERSSSSSSS ahhh lets do it all together now!!!!!

    LETS GO RANGERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!! , ya can just say the Rangers part fast …you have to drag on the last part ,gerrrrrrrs!!!! Actuallly the way is .RAAANGEEEEERRRSSS!!!!

    Great take on Dubinsky Carp …Dubi is worth $4 million , he does it all. DUBI DOES IT ALL, All I tell you . He is the total package and is growing . We need him and Cally not blocking shots all season…geeeze , ya wanna kill ’em?

    LET GO RANGERS!!! Greatest team of all time , then probally the Globetrotters.

    Nice to see ya laugh NYR fan ..but I was serious. : |

  104. LW3H

    didn’t you hear that they renamed Sydney to Sidney to honor Crosby?! People Sydney (now Sidney) have no idea who this Sidney person is…but they’ve been told, it’s OK, they don’t have to know who he is as long as they pretend to think that there is nobody plays harder than him! ;)

    P.S. and people of Sidney was also told that Sidney has improve tremendously on face-offs because he’s worked HARDER than anyone on it.

  105. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Need a Draft !!!"...says Greg L. on

    ok ok Freddy , everything is gonna be ok. Ok ..I tell you , ok.

    CCCP , I hope you feel bad for booting off ” TEAM BOOGAARD” from the fantasy draft .

    Not to make an issue outta it cuz yer really a swell guy.

  106. Interesting points on why you do/don’t pay Dubinsky $4mn. A few things I would perhaps add:

    1. It would appear that Stafford has actually hit the metric that gets you paid, 30 goals, Dubinsky’s future output is still all about nebulous ‘potential’.
    2. Five empty netters are nice and a testament to his defensive game but its not going to get him paid. With Sather still having leverage he’s going to point to a ‘real’ goal number of 19.
    3. Defensemen and centers are more valuable than wings, period. Tortorella has shown that he prefers him on the wing.
    4. Who has more upside, Staal or Dubinsky? I think most on this blog would say Staal and he plays the higher paid position – yet the Rangers are going to pay Dubinsky more… seems unlikely but in an increasing cap environment I guess it could happen.

  107. bull dog line on

    still a lot of people here underrating Dubi. some players you have to look past the stats to see there value. Dubi is one of those players.

  108. They are obsessed with Crosby in Australia too? Off my travel list…

    JJP- Sather doesn’t have that much leverage, Dubinsky is arbitration eligible, as opposed to two years ago.

  109. Yup, bull dog, I do believe he deserves Staal’s contract. 5 years at around $4M per, and similar for Callahan. I don’t think it’s wise to give those two guys different contracts from team’s development and future points of view.

  110. And, again, I doubt it will go to arbitration. Arbitration would most likely mean he would be gone in a couple of years. I don’t think Brandon wants it. But it’s all business, and there is no reason for him to settle for much more than he deserves. I truly believe it will all be ironed out by the training camp, if not earlier.

  111. Lev, phew!

    ilb, you should be the voice of reason!

    jpg….Dubi = Ranger…..enuf said

  112. Czechthemout!!! on

    Carp- yes, someone would make a trade for Dubi for Stafford straight up. The Sabers would, in a heart beat!

    Doddie- I hope you are right about the McNiel kid, and that we do get him. I’ve read a lot of good things about him. One od which that he is flying up the draft boards now and could be gone as early as #7.

    I would also love to get the Swedish kid who’ s last namestarts with the letter Z. ( Zinbljad or something). Or the Finnish kid, Joal Armia.

  113. ZzZz NYR ZzZz "Dubi needs a raise !!!"...says Greg L. on

    Orr still hasnt forgive Dubi for his last hold out …Dubinsky is all heart , hes no Chara.

  114. Let’s go, Vancouver! Let’s go, Manny! Let’s go Euro Twin Pansies! Did I forget anyone?

  115. stupid me even though rooting for nucks picked bruins in 6. damn they need to win 4 straight not happening

  116. CraigWeather on

    On a completely unrelated, but AWESOME note…. I’m a TV weatherman for a station in FL that shall remain unnamed (that’s not the cool part). So this weekend, we also produce a sports show, and one of the guests was Dale Tallon (now GM of the Florida Panthers). I got to talk hockey with him off camera for a solid 15 minutes. Really cool guy….. When I asked him who he was gunning for this off season since they have lots of cap space to play with, he responded with : “Can you keep a secret? Well…I can too.” When I asked him about brooks laich… he told me they’re giving him a very strong look. As for future Ranger Brad Richards (lol), he said “Let the Rangers and the Leafs outbid each other for all I care…”

    Either way… so awesome to play hockey gm with an actual hockey gm :)

  117. CraigWeather on

    LOL oh… he also doesnt care much for Russian players…. and thinks Paul Stasny is overrated.

  118. Doodie – That’s exactly what I’m saying. That BS from a couple years ago won’t happen again. Come to think of it, I’m not really sure why it happened in the first place, other than the Rangers wanted him to step up his play(which he did). I think a lot of people forget around here that he’s basically a 60-point player already(if he’s in for 82 games), likely with a 70-point upside. The Rangers would be foolish not to lock him up long term.

    On McNeil – I think you’re spot-on. If he’s still on the board at 15, he’ll be a Ranger. But whenever I read about a PF who suddenly jets up the draft order, I always think about Jessiman. Love Couturier too, but no way he falls to 15.

  119. CraigWeather on

    And one more thing I forgot…. Tallon also told me that Erixon’s a heck of a player, but may have some “head issues.”

  120. Yeah, sounds like a very bright guy….basically, he would never sign Datsyuk….or Larionov…

  121. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    thanks for the correction on the dollar amount (damn dew claws get in the way when I type).

    sorry about the above typo and any confusion it caused (I should have just copied the link).

    LMFAO, great catch on the sydney/sidney thing!!

  122. CraigWeather on

    ilb LOL I agree w/ ya my man….. I think every team needs a good mix, and who could argue w/ the skill set/committment w/ either one of those players….

  123. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    On a side note, anyone see Hangover 2 yet?

  124. Craig-Tallon is responsible for that famous screw up in Chicago when they didn’t submit the QO to their RFAs on time, and then scrambled to sign everyone for more than they could afford. Chicago is still spitting blood with their cap

  125. CraigWeather on

    Wicky… wait for it to go to DVD. Predictably disappointing as I felt all along this wasnt the type of movie you make a follow up with. It had its moments….but, it was uncomfortably forced at times…

  126. JimboWoodside on

    I’d like to see a 7 game series, too – but I doubt that it’s going to happen…..

  127. CraigWeather on

    Ilb… I had a feeling you were referring to Chi and all of their cap issues!! Good call….

  128. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on


    just go home a few minutes ago (not the iphone call sign) and going over to our neighbors house (red wings fan) to watch and dinner. You working?

  129. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    Thornton is going to Italy? crosby is in australia? I’m so confused!

  130. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    dubi is getting 7 years 49 mil?

  131. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    is this on? did I get carped?

  132. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    thanks manny!

    on that note, off to the neighbors with the fam…Go Nucks Go!!

  133. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    damn, a laurel…thanks jimbo!!

  134. Horton is done. He is conscious, it appears. Rome is done too….game misconduct.

  135. i dont think he should be suspended. it wasnt blindside.

    5 and a game should be enough. keep the injury out of it

  136. JimboWoodside on

    as anyone else noticed – all throughout these playoffs, when a camera shot is taken from a “high” camera (Like one up near the roof of the arena) that there are always a squadron of flies flitting around in the picture?

    It makes it look like the arenas are infested! They should put some flypaper up near those cameras!

  137. His head hit the ice hard. If he wasn’t wearing the helmet, he’d be intubated already….

  138. JimboWoodside on

    You know, (and I’m not excusing this hit at all) it must be very hard for a defending player to know when it is a violation of the rules to hit a player, especially when he has dished off the puck – they’ve been told all through their careers to “finish your check”, but now all of a sudden he has to calculate how long it was since the opposing player made the pass….and whether you’re hitting him “blind”….

  139. JimboWoodside on

    I don’t know, Manny – I don’t think that there are any dogs leaving anything up by those cameras, but I’m not sure! ;-D

  140. JimboWoodside on

    Bruins have Ranger-itis – can’t capitalize on a 5 minute major….

  141. Jimbo – Agree some cases aren’t clear cut, but Rome had enough time to read the NHL Rulebook cover to cover between the time Horton released the puck and when he hit him. I’ve never understood what the purpose of those hits is, other than to inflict damage on the skull of the opponent.

  142. I have to agree with LW: He had all day to make the choice. He attacked, left his feet (or was at least leaving his feet), hit him square in the head while leading with his shoulder and it was open ice, with Horton looking at the puck which was 90 degrees from where Rome was coming from.

  143. JimboWoodside on

    Yeah, Canucks PK is really looking great…..Bruins are passing around too much, though…

    LW, I think that those hits have always been designed to “mess up” the opponent, but until very lately, they’ve been completely legal. As I said before, Scott Stevens built a career and a reputation on dishing out those kind of hits…

  144. Oh, I’m aware they’ve been legal. Hated those hits when that headhunter Stevens used to administer them too.

  145. These hits to the head are such crap!
    I don’t understand what the league has to loose by
    strictly punishing these hits.
    The league gains nothing by allowing them…

  146. I agree. Mcguire is an ignorant D-bag. cant stand him.

    Excellent P-kill.

    This is gonna be a good game to watch.

  147. JimboWoodside on

    OK, LW – I hated them, too…..I’m just saying that it must be hard for defensive players to adjust to the new rules, but they must, if there are going to be any “un-concussed” players left in the league…

  148. Olga Folkyerself on

    Chara 6’9 255.

    I see my problem now, I’m not heavy, I’m too short.

  149. Late hit, he knew very well Horton didn’t see him… That could’ve been much worse too..

    One thing is for sure, Vancouver will not be intimidated physically. Not a chance.

  150. Totally illegal hit. Horton had gotten rid of the puck and taken two steps already. And a leaping blindside shoulder to the head? This is exctly the kind of garbage that has no place in the game, and if that means Scott Stevens had no place, then fine. Its one thing to hit a guy hard and clean its another to try to hurt someone.

  151. Raymond………what a move. He’s good in close. Hands like Wolski! Thomas saw him all the way. What a save.

  152. JimboWoodside on

    If this type of play isn’t stopped, there won’t be any good forwards left in the game – there are too many head injuries taking place now.

  153. I feel badly for the Defensemen because the burden is entirely on them to change the way they hit but I don’t know what else to do. That wasn’t a case of “keep your head up when you cross the blue line” because he didn’t have the puck anymore. You just can’t hit someone like that (if we want to stop head injuries).

  154. JimboWoodside on

    I agree Manny – the whole training of a defensive player since juniors is to *nail* an oncoming player – and it was never taught to them to make sure that the guy you’re going to hit is looking straight at you! If your opponent is looking the other way, that’s his tough luck – but that’s not what the new rules say, and that’s what is causing all these concussive-type injuries..

  155. Orr totally disagree…respectfully…lol
    Shoulder to the the head of a player who didn’t even have the puck.
    Shoulder hits to the head are illegal and
    hitting a player who doesn’t have a the puck…interference.

  156. Olga Folkyerself on

    They won’t suspend him. Even with Colin Blockage not making the calls anymore. They don’t want to “affect the outcome”.

  157. Olga Folkyerself on

    Manny that’s the logic they have used for 30+ years I’ve been watching hockey. I know it makes no sense…

  158. I’m Milbury-free in this series (how am I coping?) – did he blame Horton and whine about how he’s tired of all the”pansification” and of talking about headshots all the time, or did he act completely differently because it was a Bruin who got hurt?

  159. Olga Folkyerself on

    I always advocate for the devil.

    Why? He’s already got all the lawyers…

  160. JimboWoodside on

    It’s not over yet – Canucks have too much firepower to rule them out with only a 2 goal deficit…

  161. i have a feeling that this will be an all home team series now

    i did say bruins in 6.

  162. Jimbo! I was actually away for the weekend visiting my parents. Came back to find some droppings. I plugged some holes that I guess he was using to get in….they were pretty high up. I think he’s gone for good now because if he was there he ate a lot of poison.

  163. You nailed it CT. I was just taking notes and saying “these don’t look like the Canucks we have been watching..sloppy. Too many turnovers, not completing passes.”

  164. This one is courtesy of my wife: “Must be Jeremy Roenick’s advice…getting in the kitchen.” (sarcastically).

  165. JimboWoodside on

    Wow! Another one! Schneider, anyone?

    OK, Manny – sorry that it seems like he returned……I hope you plugged his access hole – even if he croaks, he should do it in your neighbor’s apartment, not yours….

  166. Much like my mouse friend will start nibbling away on the metal screening I have used to plug holes….

  167. CTBlueshirt on

    Need to hook up an exposed wire to the screen. When your lights flicker you know you got him.

  168. Olga Folkyerself on

    When your lights flicker you know you got him.

    Just like in the Big House. Quite a few were given the Chair of Applied Electricity at Ossining.

  169. Electric Chairs are hella brutal. We are amazing as a species. We came up with: Firing Squads, Electric Chairs, Guillotines, hanging, burning at the stake and drowning. What is wrong with us?

  170. In that period, Mark Recchi of the Bruins became the oldest player to score in the Cup Final, breaking the record set by Mark Recchi of the Bruins in 2011.

  171. Olga Folkyerself on

    We wait far too long to use ’em, Manny. Gotta speed up the process.

  172. That’s right Olga. Let’s have a good old fashioned witch hunt!

    “What also floats in water?”

    “very small rocks”

  173. JimboWoodside on

    Don’t forget drawing & quartering, followed by beheading with an axe or sword!

  174. Drawing and Quartering and Impalement are pretty good ones. Also, exile. Leaving someone on a desert island. Walking the plank.

  175. JimboWoodside on

    “Smug, arrogant people in Vancouver” – I do believe that Milbury doesn’t like the Vancouver crowd! ;-D

  176. JimboWoodside on

    Exactly, Manny – and they were also used for “humane” executions here in the USA, too…..

  177. The latest was used by Russian Marines after they caught Somali pirates. They “let them free on a inflatable boat”…..

  178. We don’t have capital punishment here anymore. If that isn’t a sign of rampant Europansification, I don’t know what is.

  179. Jimbo, how’s it going?

    I enjoy our chat about suburban America. And other nonsense.

  180. JimboWoodside on

    Communist!? Is it that bad!, LW?

    Are you a local there, or a yank just living in England?

  181. vancouver being manhandled tonite. thrown around all night.

    what i find hard to believe is how they had 117pts in reg season. they dont look any better then there opp

  182. JimboWoodside on

    Hi Latona – still envying you for being relatively close to Alexus Steakhouse! I enjoyed those chats, too.

  183. JimboWoodside on

    “have” smacked, that is…..

    Yorkshire? They’re infested with puddings, too…….

  184. Can we please stop hearing how much Shawn Thornton means to the Bs. He’s playing because Seguin turned into a pumpkin.

  185. JimboWoodside on

    Awwwwwwwwwwwww……cute little Yorkies! (I know, not a “manly” kind of dog, but I like them)

  186. I’m a native, Jimbo. Live in a pudding and eat terriers.

    Did Higgins just hit the net on a breakaway there?

  187. The ref in the picture looked like he was recoiling from a nasty stink finger.

  188. JimboWoodside on

    Yeah – I’ve only ever heard that WOO business at Isles home games – why in hell would any other team take that lame-aasen thing on…?

  189. That’s the first Danish to hit the scoresheet in the Stanley Cup Final since Brodeur dropped his plate of pastries in the press room after Game 2 in 2003.

  190. Yes, Jimbo.

    A good tip to remember for surname analysation. The ending “-sen” usually denotes Norwegian or Danish heritage. The ending “-son” is usually Swedish.

  191. Mark Recchi of the Bruins just became the oldest player to score in the Cup Final, breaking the record set by Mark Recchi of the Bruins about an hour ago.

  192. JimboWoodside on

    Hey, thanks, Latona – I didn’t know that! I guess the Danes don’t do much with hockey – I mean, the Swedes, Finns and Norwegians have pretty good international teams – never hear anything about the Danes, though….

    Another goal!! Hahaha!

  193. I sent an email a few days ago, Carp, but I’ll re-send. Should be OK for Game 5 if I can stay awake. I’m not great at being able to pay attention to the game at the same time as writing anything though, so it might just be 12 paragraphs of Brodeur fat jokes.

  194. JimboWoodside on

    I hope all those anointed fans in Vancouver have fallen back to earth just a little…..

  195. I think Denmark has a better football (soccer) program than the others, Jimbo. But yeah, this game is ridiculous.

  196. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    what going on guys? Is the game on yet?

  197. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    I have no problem with the lucic shot to the pecans of burrows (live by the sword, talk in a high pitched voice by the sword), but if that isn’t suspension worthy, not sure what is.

  198. JimboWoodside on

    Vancouver just came out on the ice to play, wicky – unfortunately for them, Boston came out a 8 pm!

  199. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    by the score, you may be correct!

  200. i really like this line by one of my facebook buddies:

    “The Bruins could score 100 goals. It only counts as one win.”

  201. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    sorry Nucks fans, never going to my neighbors to watch a game again!!

    Buh Bye neighbors (I’m not going to get in trouble for that one also am I carp?)

  202. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    LMFAO jimbo and cccp!

  203. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    wow sedins cracking me up post game

  204. JimboWoodside on

    Yes, 3CP, but the cold winds caused by all those pucks flying past Luongo might have given him a case of the flu…

  205. LW, 12 paragraphs of Brodeur jokes works for me … the review can be a lot shorter, too, if you prefer.

  206. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    BTW LW, Danish joke=priceless LMFAO!

  207. JimboWoodside on

    While somebody is out gunning for Bulbhead McGwire, I hope they also take a shot at the Geico Caveman – I’m sick to death of him!

  208. wicky, sorry? for what?

    jimbo, I thought the caveman was funny the first one or two commercials. Now it’s beyond lame, especially with those two knuckleheaded Caps announcers.

    Good night, kids.

  209. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    and i have no idea how thomas did not get a penalty called on him

  210. Boston shot their wad tonight. All you pundits saying Boston is gonna win it now, Im still taking bets.

  211. Crazy game, but glad we have a series.

    The Canucks sure looked lost in the second and third.

  212. Ive played hockey all my life, ive seen those games happen. I couldnt explain them either.

    I still base my opinions on history, not fluke emotional games

  213. jpg's sister on

    Could anyone please explain why Luongo wasn’t pulled during the game? I thought it was insulting to leave a goalie in net if he has let in more than 5 goals and is having a bad game. Isn’t that why years ago, Patrick Roy got upset in Montreal when he wasn’t pulled?

  214. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    No way the Bruins have clinched anything, they have ONE win, and that is all!

  215. I think it is because they still thought they had a chance. They were getting scoring chances. thomas was on every thing.

    When it got down to the end, I agree, but it wouldnt have helped that much.

    But I do agree, should’ve been pulled. It doesnt really help him that much.

  216. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    he told the coach he wanted to stay in between 2nd and 3rd period!

    You guys that think Boston is in the drivers seat and is winning the series obviously haven’t listened to carp at all!!

  217. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    my bad he said that in the 3rd period not the intermission

  218. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    no worries and you are welcome

  219. Olga Folkyerself on

    I haven’t seen anybody here say Boston was going to win it or was in the drivers seat.

    Where are these posts you are referring to?

  220. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    not sure when they started, around 11PM or so I think, but not sure by who and I’m too lazy to scroll and check. There were only a few I think.

    Just trying to crank numbers back up a bit!

  221. Olga Folkyerself on

    Oh, OK.

    Well, Boston IS in the drivers seat and IS going to win it all. :)

  222. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    not arguing with you, i know you have back up around!!

  223. Slatsko Folkyerself on

    And Slats said Dubinsky is going to get 4.5 million over his dead body.

  224. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    are you arranging that??

  225. Olga Folkyerself on

    If that’s the case I’d take up a collection to make sure Dubi gets the 4.5…

  226. JimboWoodside on

    I never said Boston was in the driver’s seat either….I said that next game should be interesting. But I think this game may have served to let those who thought that the Canucks were invincible step back just a bit and fall back to earth.

    Goodnight, Carp!

  227. JimboWoodside on

    At this point I’d be happy to see a 6 or 7 game series. Don’t want to lose hockey completely yet!

  228. Awww jeez, the Folkyerself’s are around… time for bed then. I’m actually tired too, so perfect timing.

  229. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    i was just prodding a bit to see what the responses would be. I don’t think anyone actually said that verbatim

  230. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    good night carp

    good night mickey

  231. JimboWoodside on

    OK, wicky – I didn’t think anyone was getting silly – Boston looked weak in the first 2 games, and this one might actually have helped the Canucks realize that they’re in a series, and not a cakewalk.

  232. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    best of luck in the morning

    later assens and every one have a great night!!

  233. Deborah Kaufman Placey looks pretty good in green on NHLN

    Can we fire Joe M and hire Kevin Weekes as our color analyst (no pun intended)?

  234. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    damnit cccp, a laurel due to you

    Yes she does and LMFAO!!

    BrandonPrust8 Brandon Prust
    Hope Nathan is doing better… The hockey world is praying for u and for your speedy return!

    classy by Prust

  235. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    I hope rome isn’t suspended, don’t think it was a suspension worthy hit IMHO!

    laurel #2

  236. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The proud winner of 3 Latona lunch points!!) on

    night assens!!

    A laurel bag lady!!

  237. CC, that’s racist! You’re racist :P

    I love that video of Weekes nearly getting run over by a zamboni, and he doesn’t even stop talking, as if nothing happened. He’s a professional. Not a true professional though, not until he wins an Emmy.

  238. Why, ORR? Does Kevin like marshmallows? ;p

    He will win Emmy and then we will have two true professionals!

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