It’s Just Pain: Girardi, Prust have surgery; Torts snubbed


The Block Ness Monster, Girardi, said on break-up day that he would not need any surgery. Ooops.

From the Rangers:


New York, April 29, 2011 – New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather announced today that Dan Girardi underwent successful surgery yesterday to repair his inguinal hernia.  In addition, Brandon Prust underwent successful surgery today to repair a labral tear.  Both are expected to be ready for the start of training camp.

Girardi led all Rangers defensemen and ranked second and seventh on the team, respectively, with career-highs in assists (27) and points (31) this season.  He also led the league with a career-high, 236 blocked shots, and ranked second on the Rangers and 15th in the NHL with a career-high in average ice time (24:34).  The fourth-year player skated in his 300th career NHL game on November 19 at Colorado.

Prust captured the 2010-11 Steven McDonald Extra Effort Award, voted by the fans as the player who performs “above and beyond the call of duty.”  He established career-highs in goals (13), assists (16), points (29), and shots on goal, and was one of four Rangers to have skated in all 82 games this season.  Prust tied for second in the NHL with a career-high, seven shorthanded points, third with five shorthanded goals and 12th with two shorthanded assists.


From the NHL:


NEW YORK (April 29, 2011) — Dan Bylsma of the Pittsburgh Penguins, Barry Trotz of the Nashville Predators and Alain Vigneault of the Vancouver Canucks are the three finalists for the 2010-11 Jack Adams Award, presented to the head coach who has “contributed the most to his team’s success,” the National Hockey League announced today.

Members of the NHL Broadcasters’ Association submitted ballots for the Jack Adams Award at the conclusion of the regular season, with the top three vote-getters designated as finalists. The winner will be announced Wednesday, June 22, during the 2011 NHL Awards from the Pearl Concert Theater inside the Palms Hotel Las Vegas. The 2011 NHL Awards will be broadcast by VERSUS in the United States and CBC in Canada.

Following are the finalists for the Jack Adams Award, in alphabetical order:

Dan Bylsma, Pittsburgh Bylsma, a first-time Adams finalist, helped the Penguins (49-25-8) gain home-ice advantage in the opening round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs for the third consecutive season under his direction, securing the fourth seed in the Eastern Conference. The Penguins earned the second-most points (106) and victories (49) in franchise history, overcoming a total of 350 man-games lost due to injury in the process. Most notable were the prolonged absences of star centers Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin, who missed most of Pittsburgh’s final 35 games. During that stretch Pittsburgh posted a 20-11-4 record for a .629 points percentage.
Barry Trotz, Nashville
Trotz guided the Predators (44-27-11) to the Stanley Cup Playoffs for the sixth time in the past seven seasons, finishing fifth in the West after the most competitive Conference race in League history. The Predators again employed stingy defense and balanced scoring to finish in the West’s top eight; they ranked third in the NHL in team goals-against (2.28) and had their four top scorers (Sergei Kostitsyn, Martin Erat, Patric Hornqvist and Shea Weber) separated by just two points. Trotz is an Adams nominee for the second consecutive season, finishing runner-up to Dave Tippett of the Phoenix Coyotes in 2010 voting.
Alain Vigneault, Vancouver
Vigneault led the Canucks to their finest regular season since joining the NHL in 1970-71, capturing the Presidents’ Trophy as the League’s top club with 117 points (54-19-9). The Canucks set single-season franchise records for most points, most victories and most road wins (27). They scored the most goals in the NHL (262), allowed the fewest (185), ranked number one in power-play percentage (24.3%) and placed third in penalty killing (85.6%). Vigneault is a third-time Adams finalist; he captured the award with Vancouver in 2007 and finished second with the Montreal Canadiens in 2000.

History: The award was presented by the NHL Broadcasters’ Association in 1974 in honor of the late Jack Adams, longtime coach and general manager of the Detroit Red Wings.

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  1. re-post:

    With Wolski, can’t they just bury him in Hartford if they don’t like his act next season? I mean, what’s the point of having a cap hit when you can just get rid of him and the cap hit? I think he’s in camp, maybe he gets the start of the season, then if he’s the same guy he goes to Reddenville.

    Dave, hope you enjoyed your day of free advertising, but you’re going to have to do a lot better than that. If you want to comment and link to your site in your name, that’s fine. But you’re not spamming this place and annoying these fine, nice, upstanding people … or my readers.

  2. Carp’d!

    Why doesn’t a guy like Gaborik or Woski go play in the KHL where there is less pressure and much more money (NO TAXES)?

  3. Well here’s to hoping them both a speedy and pain free recovery! Bottom’s up!

  4. re-post:

    Matthias, the reason I don’t really give a carcillo about the Worlds is that I don’t understand how you can have a World Championship while the best teams in the world are over here playing in the best championship in the world.

  5. Doodie Machetto on

    “Carp- yes, they can waive him and send him to Hartford after the beginning of training camp. His all cap is off the books. But, buying him out takes off $3.33M of summer cap hit, and with Redden’s $6.5M back on, it’s a big number to ignore. Providing, of course, they go after Richards.”

    That’s not to mention the $4 million in real dollars you would have to pay him to ride the buses. 10.5 million of salary buried in Hartford isn’t so appealing.

  6. Doodie Machetto on

    Well, Wolski is Canadian, so I doubt he has too much desire to go to the KHL.

  7. Joekuh - Can I Get Another Question? Ptooey! on

    Manny, I do believe this fine, upstanding, 26 year old man did…or maybe Carp did it to himself, I still haven’t figured it out yet.

  8. No, he carped me…So I’m reposting:

    Carp- yes, they can waive him and send him to Hartford after the beginning of training camp. His all cap is off the books. But, buying him out takes off $3.33M of summer cap hit, and with Redden’s $6.5M back on, it’s a big number to ignore. Providing, of course, they go after Richards.

    They may need every extra dollar in cap space they can get.

  9. Re-post, but ilb pretty much beat me to it:


    For the summer all 1 way contracts count against the cap, whether in NY or HFD. I think it all comes down to whether they choose to pursue Richards. If they buyout anyone it will obviously be to open up cap space. Buying out Drury alone doesn’t free up enough space to go after Richards, but buying out Drury+Wolski does

  10. Another thing to consider- there is a limit on total amount of NHL contracts allowed per team. I think it’s 48. Not sure where they are now, but what if McIlrath works out during the camp? Or someone else?

  11. Yeah, Carp, I have to admit you have stolen the wind out of my sails, that is what I said to my friends over here for the last couple of years. But dont be afraid about me but I think that the level of play in the NHL in the last two years due to some reasons may have dipped a little bit probably due to injuries to some players or due to a high amount of games that the NHL needs to play in order to be profitable..

    You need to understand that the game of hockey is a business and the IIHf want to promote the game over here in Europe and try to broadcast the best availabe european players playing in the european league to play a good turnament..

    And then you have to realize my joy about winning against the Russians today. We have lost 36 straight times against them and they are giants against us we have even lost to them in double digits in the past when they had those super lines with Larionov, Makarov and Krutovs…

    I hope I havent embarassed someone today with my chatter but its hockey day for me today as I am awaiting to have a glimse on the Caps-Lightning later the night for me…

  12. ilb,

    I thought it was 50. There’s also the veterans dressed for games limit in the AHL too.

  13. Anyway, Carp, if you need to have a guest blogger during the summer, let me know. I have done a pretty good salary assessment of the team during the summer with some projected numbers in terms of RFAs signing and such. I will be happy to talk it over with some other “Cam Hopes” of the blog (CTB, Doodie?) and post it at some point.

  14. Orr so you were the one who faced Dubi-Silverdork and Jess the always right Rubinstein very often ??????

    So its long time in the past ???? Just to finish it up and to let me sleep in peace :
    They are both retired now or they still delighting the Rangers world with their unlimited knowledge about the inside of the New York Rangers ?????

  15. Matthias, congratulations on your Miracle On Ice. And don’t worry, bud. You can talk about anything you like here. Well, almost anything.

  16. Ilb can you give me an idea, if there is a specific reason the NHL is doing the business so complicated with waiving players buying out players or installing different regulations ????
    Dont you think they probably loose to many fans out of the reason that everythings is way too complicated for the normal fan to understand ??????

  17. Yup, thanks CTB…I think they had already 48 contracts (hence the number :-) when McIlrath signed- his contract, however doesn’t count against until he plays at least 10 games with the NYR.

  18. No, Matthias, it’s pure business. All about money. They don’t really care if we understand, I doubt that is their priority.

  19. Yeah. I loved to piss those two know it all’s off. Especially his sidekick. Every time someone argued with him, he would hide behind Dublowsky, and even asked him to ban a few people.

    I still can’t believe people would actually pay for that website. Fuggin madness!

  20. Matthias, every American sports league has pretty convoluted rules about personnel movement. I agree that waiving, demoting, recalling, re-entry waivers, buyouts, no trade clauses, no movements clauses, entry level contracts, restricted free agents, offer sheets, arbitration rights, unrestricted free agents, etc. It’s a lot to get a full grasp of, but I tend to think only the truly pedantic fan gets wrapped up in that sort of stuff.

  21. Nice! Pedantic was now used TWICE today on this blog. I used it to describe Toni Morrison and CT used it to describe fans.

    Does this make us the smartest Blog ever?

  22. One mention of Krutov, brings to mind a statement
    by a no longer remembered someone who said that Krutov had “eaten himself out of the league” and that he could never see a Hot Dog stand that he could pass by without indulging to his heart’s
    ( and presumably his stomach’s ) content.

    Vraiment? ????

  23. Anybody remember when Dublowsky said “Cherepanov had no heart” and “Cherepanov didn’t come to the NHL because of Brandon Sutter’s hit, and that he’s scared of the NHL”??

    He said that a month or two after the kid died. He only said it because apparently Cherry said in some interview in Russia “who cares aboot Blueshirt Bulletin”, which was mistranslated!

    What a fuggin bouchebag! I remember Greg, and I called him out on it, and that’s when he shut the comments section down, and turned it into a pay only site. Loser!

    Fugg him! Fugg Jess! Go Carp! Go RR!

  24. Best example is, when i just see when a Red Wings team is able to get a player like Modano to an already very expensive team or the Flyers always get a bigger star in contrast to see that the Blackhawks lost almost half of their championship team because of salary cup restraints….

    I will never like the salary cap, How can you destroy such a winning team, where the fans had so much fun because someone wants to have parity in the league..there is no reason to do it not a single one..How can you reward a hard working good GM (hear Glen Sather) when he´s loosing all his big horses to other teams ????

    And I just comeback to my previous post.. How can you install such complicated rules that even a long time sports writer dont understand them ( and I dont blame him as I dont understand them for myself :):)

    But its probably everything business as it is in every part of the word now !!!!

  25. uups. My post was too long and took too long of a time to write to see some of my questions answered….

  26. Roger Pedacter?

    This is double-paned sound-proof glass. There is no way that neighbor could’ve heard Roger Podacter scream on the way down with that door shut. The scream she heard came from inside the apartment before he was thrown over the balcony and the murderer closed the door before he left. Yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. Can ya feel that, buddy? Huh? Huh? Huh?

  27. Now I have seen two games from the Worlds and I should watch another one from the Stanley Cup Playoffs with Caps-Lightning to have real comparison !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  28. Good evening, Carp!

    And Happy Birthday to my favorite nose-picking, Richards-fighting, mustache-growing lil man… BIG DUBINSKY!!!

  29. Yeah Orr, I have to admit that I supscribed to his newspaper for a couple of months but the paper newspapers was totally uninspiring because everything inside was almost a month old until it was delivered to me overseas….so I finished the subscription and it became shortly afterwards a pay only site..and that was probably the end of the story…

    I have to admit he made some reasonable points from time to time but you are right he always thought his opinions is the only right one and his arrogance send me away from him…

    anyway its gone and they are both gone and now we have the wonderland of RANGERS REPORT :)

  30. Good evening Sally as Carp proably forget to greet you…:)
    I am a gentleman as well so I apologize in his name for his failure :)

  31. Vigneault? REALLY?? with that roster? WTB? I guess it was SOOO hard for him to get arguably the best roster in NHL to play well and be the best team in virtually every category this season… whatever

  32. These rules did not come about because someone wants to have parity in the league or anything else like that as I recall this all arose from the CBA negotiated after the board of governors locked out the players because the ownership felt players were demanding salaries getting out of control relative to teams income. That is why there is a cap that changes according to league revenues. Parity was a result somewhat but there are still rich teams and poor teams. But nobody sat down and said well we think have ridiculously complex rules about the salary cap is something the fans will enjoy it was the result of a labor negotiation between the NHLPA and the owners. It’s not like when they decide to eliminate two line passing or anything like that. Any union contract is going to be complex. Just not all of them get a lot of air time on Versus :)

  33. Silberbrg..I am really sorry but you sound like D…. S……..or J….R…..:)
    but please dont toast me for that :)

  34. The Rangers announced today that that Dan Girardi underwent successful surgery yesterday to repair his inguinal hernia. In addition, Brandon Prust underwent successful surgery today to repair a labral tear.

    Both players are expected to be ready for the start of training camp.

    It’s only pain.

  35. Johnny LaRue on

    I like Bob Herbert, not to be confused with Bobby Heber. He can be pedantic, he can be pedantic.

  36. God bless my soul that someone mentioned the Royal Wedding !!!
    I always thought the RR is a serious site :)

  37. Thomas Carlisle. Tommy C.

    Matthias, you can link as often as you want … it’s just that multiple links sometimes send the comment to spam.

    Good evening, Sally!

    Dave, you are certainly welcome here. Just don’t overdo it, and please bring something to the table when you comment, not just your plug. And you don’t really have to put the name of the blog in there every time, do you? It’s in your name. That should be enough.

  38. By the way, bet you Prust played with that torn labrum all season… He was able to fight too…Geez…

  39. Orr, If yu would have seen the hat creation of Priscilla today you wont think he ´d be an appropriate guest :)

  40. What´s the point for Dave to appear so often on this blog to promote his own when he must have realized that nobody obviously like him ????

    By the way he never answered my question why he is not writing more entries in a week trying to get more fans of his own production ?????

    People are sometimes strange, arent they ?????

  41. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    I thought prust injured it in the fight with komisarek. The BS take down that should be a 5 minute major and misconduct for any player who uses it (sorry rant about take downs in fights over)

    Don’t forget folks, have to save cap space for bieksa in the summer (ok, I won’t post that anymore….tonight)!

  42. Yes Orr its seems to be that you have seen it as well but nobody is admitting it :)
    I was sitting in a restaurant for lunch today after work and I wanted to watch the live coverage of the ATP tour out of Munich but then they stopped the live coverage and somebody of the waiters changed the channel to the Royal Wedding and I was forced to see it before my lunch ended..

    But to the hats of those people, Orr, You need to go Ascot to the biggest horseracing event in the UK and its a famous site that those people show their best hat creations..its their way to attract attention, its in the human nature of the female gender :)

    Carp i apologize if i should violate any species of the world :)

  43. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    before my time, but didn’t the doors do a song about that?

  44. now its enough today with me I probably have dispersed all those loyal posters on this blog!!!! got to go to bed its now almost 1 in the morning and it seems to be that nobody wants to watch Caps-Lighting as well :)

  45. JimboWoodside on

    Yeah – not much the league can do about that – ice is still hard, and players do fall down….

  46. ~ I would have rather have seen the Rangers get a higher seed but being the 8th seed is much better than being where we were a year ago.~

    that’s some profound carcillo

    Orr can I get a duh?

  47. JimboWoodside on

    Bolts dodged a bullet there, but the fact remains that they are running around helter-skelter, and and not controlling the play at all……if this keeps up, they lose this game.

    Nah, Orr – the ice and Gagne are both white – couldn’t be racism! ;-D

  48. JimboWoodside on

    “The NHL is racist! Why is the ice white? Why can’t the ice be black, and the puck be white??”

    That reminds me of a line that was on the Imus show several years ago – they had a guy on doing an obvious black-accented dialect in a telephone call, and the guy said “I don’t like ice hockey – the only thing black on the ice is the puck, and everybody be slappin’ it around”

  49. hockey is a racist sport. white guys on white ice, hitting a black puck with a stick then trying to deny it from its goal

  50. We’re still making jokes about racism? Making jokes at the expense of the millions that suffered through it. Who’s looking for attention now? Saddening. I really wish tr-808 would post more often, it’s a shame that the idiocy of Orr drove him away :( – Tiki

  51. Holy Edzo Edzo. Can Joe M shut his yap for 2 seconds. Someone please tell him he is not the primary color guy. Whaddya think Edzo. Nice pass wasnt it Edzo. Edzo that was a clean check. Edzo can I buy you dinner. Edzo I wished my partner was Ed then I could call him Edzo instead of Samzo. Whaddya think Edzo. I have said Edzo more in the first period that Pierre did all year, isnt that right Edzo.

  52. How are you tonight, Jimbo?

    Still wondering what’s going on with Linda in those disastrous storms.

  53. “hockey is a racist sport. white guys on white ice, hitting a black puck with a stick then trying to deny it from its goal”

    LMAO! Hilarious!

    Tiki calls me a racist, so I’m calling him a pedophile, since he’s a die hard fan of one. Bwaha!

  54. JimboWoodside on

    C’mon, guys – let’s not start that up again……

    Not only Linda, but what about MickeyM? She’s in that geographical area, and I haven’t seen her post here lately – has she?

  55. JimboWoodside on

    Yeah – Craps seem to be in control of this game – Bolts don’t seem to have it tonight…at least, so far..

  56. Didn’t even think about MickeyM. Oh man. I hope she’s okay too. I appreciated the Lightning helping us into the playoffs, but gotta go for the Capitals here.

  57. JimboWoodside on

    Yes, remember the night that the Rangers were eliminated (I think it was that night)? Mickey was complaining that the tornado that hit St. Louis was taking away the TV coverage of the Ranger-Cap game….

  58. Yeah, Avery did that for us. How many goals did he score??

    Speaking of Avery, I wonder when that Vogue movie is coming out. Apparently there will be a Stan Fishler cameo.

    No wonder why Fishler was kissing his ass for so long :P

  59. Mickey’s in Missouri. Just tried calling Linda’s home, power must still be out, went straight to recording.

  60. I know hit stats get kind of screwy and I don’t really want to get an Avery thing going but he only had 5 hits in the 4 games. Stepon was the only one with less.

  61. “Just tried calling Linda’s home, power must still be out, went straight to recording..”

    does that make sense? was it the phone company answering service?

  62. Don’t know. Sounded like a cell phone voice mail box, but it’s her home phone, Im sure. “You have reached an automated voice messaging system….”

  63. LOL Jimbo. They’re also not getting the anti-NY referees that are relentless and determined to take NY out of the playoffs.

  64. We own the Caps 2nd round draft pick, so it’s better for the Rangers if the Caps lose.

  65. JimboWoodside on

    You know, I was kinda surprised that the refs didn’t blow the whistle quickly on the Bolts first goal – big pileup in front of the net, I figured they would blow it dead – then, they called back the Caps “kick-in” goal…..maybe the Caps are gonna get jobbed in this series….

  66. They’re not facing the Rangers. The Lightning winning this series gives the bruins home ice next round. 1 + 1 = 2
    That’s what it should have read the first time.

  67. Bourque from Ourque trailing 3-2 in 3rd per of game 5, advance to finals with a win.

  68. JimboWoodside on

    Tik, the Bruins have to get past the Flyers first – I’m not convinced that they can get that done.

  69. By the way, Torts didn’t deserve a nomination. He did a fine job and has the team on the right track, but you don’t get best coach consideration for squeezing your team into the 8th spot. At least, not all that often. Bylsma did it without Malkin and Crosby for most of the year. Trotz did a remarkable job in Nashville, and Vancouver had the best record. You could even give Boudreau a lot of credit for changing the team’s entire philosophy in the middle of the season and leading them to the East’s best record.

  70. JimboWoodside on

    Can’t make any contact with a guy going back for an icing play? That’s a penalty now? I can understand not allowing an opposing player to smash into the puck retriever full-force, but the TB player hardly toughed the Cap’s player!

  71. eddie eddie eddie on

    torts was obviously snubbed for 1 reason…sather will be getting GM of the year award…cant have 2 winners from same team…

  72. eddie eddie eddie on

    for those of you with children, the caps goalie, annoywirth, is a dead ringer for dora the explorer

  73. JimboWoodside on

    Steve Downie is surprising me – I thought he was just a thug, but he’s playing well in these playoffs…

  74. 4generations 4 cups on

    Labrum tear isnt so hard to play with, its just loose and crunchy. Prust really needed to get this surgery under his belt quick, the shoulder is a really difficult one and i hope he’s the same player (scoring wise) after a summer rehabbing

  75. billybleedsblue on

    WOw, just saw some highlights…

    Neuvirth sure looked stellar tonight, eh? Ovi only had 2 shots, huh? For the Lightning to win, Roloson will have to play this well again and again… too bad about Gagne, but one man does not a team make… one can wonder if they’ll be any payback for that play… and I hear the Caps will be giving a soccer clinic after they’re ousted by the Lightning…

  76. 2nd Round – DT Marvin Austin, North Carolina, 6-2, 309lbs, 4.83

    SCOUTING REPORT: Austin did not play football in 2010 as he was kicked off of UNC after being ruled permanently ineligible by the NCAA for illegally dealing with an agent. Austin lacks ideal height but he has an outstanding combination of strength, power, and athleticism. He moves very well for a big man and has a touch of explosiveness to his game. He can play both the 1-technique and 3-technique tackle positions. Austin has the ability to be strong at the point-of-attack against the run and he has good initial quickness and agility as a pass rusher. He can be disruptive, but he needs to play more consistently with leverage, power, and discipline. At times, he is blocked too easily. Austin does have a reputation for having an inconsistent motor – he needs to play hard on every snap. He dominated at times at UNC but was considered somewhat of an underachiever. If he plays with better technique, consistency, and effort, Austin could develop into a very good player.

  77. eddie eddie eddie on

    thx dde…maybe OL next few rds….and LBs of course…great grab of the prince in rd. 1

  78. eddie eddie eddie on

    i hope everyone at the shark tank is sitting with their backs against their seats….

  79. 4generations 4 cups on

    We have 2 #1 centers? We have 2 defined powerplay QB’s? We have veterans with many rings as well as a stocked system?

    I mean, no we dont.

  80. Just got back from a night out…

    “There was a wedding?
    haha! LW, that’s hilarious. It must have been a zoo by you today!!

    Some game for the Bolts. I missed the whole thing…how did Dom Moore do? He’s like my favorite player now…

    “red wings remind me of the rangers in terms of talent and style of play…”
    LOL! Eddie, what are you smoking? I want some!

  81. JimboWoodside on

    Yeah – Dom Moore has developed into a pretty good player. He doesn’t score a bunch of goals, but he checks well, plays good defense, and he’s positionally sound.

  82. billybleedsblue on

    CCCP, I wish the Rangers were so boring.

    Moore came close to putting one in his own net. That Roloson was sharp!

  83. I like Moore because he is a smart player. Not flashy, but smart. He played good minutes in his time with the Rangers…always did what was expected of him. I agree that he has developed into a nice player…

  84. billy

    Winning is great…Im not arguing there

    What do their fans talk about about? “hey, we won again” “Now what?” “next game we win again…cool!”

    Ain’t nothing beats NYR drama!

  85. billybleedsblue on

    NYR_FAN I’m pretty sure I saw him on a play put one on net while trying to clear it back to the boards… Good thing Rolo was on it, would have been tragic goal… It was an honest play though, but we all know how that happens sometimes…

  86. JimboWoodside on

    3CP, he was just making sure that Roloson was paying sufficient attention in the game! ;-)

  87. billybleedsblue on

    CCCP, I see your point, but wouldn’t it be nice to just be able to relax and enjoy some success for a while? We could talk about how great things are and celebrate instead of arguing about line combinations and wondering if we’ll ever score on the power play…ever.

    I get it that the drama drives us as true fans, but at some point, we’re due for a good run. I’ll take all the band wagon fans and all of that b.s. and won’t care a bit. It would just be nice to have a team that goes deep into the playoffs year after year… we could pop the cork on something good and just be happy about it for once and not miserable and constantly searching for answers that just don’t exist.

  88. Downie didn’t have that great of a year this season, compared to last season, statistically. But, he has been really good in the playoffs.

    He’ll always be known for his pre-season knockout punch on Jessiwoman, at least to me :P

  89. JimboWoodside on

    3CP, I meant that Moore was putting the puck back on Roloson to keep him “on his toes” : P

  90. LOL! Yeah, seriously, Downie has been really good for them…he’s got some real skill to along with his aggressive style…

    Nice save by Howard on Pavelski, btw…

  91. JimboWoodside on

    Maybe that Downie KO was what I was remembering when I thought of him as a thug – but I seem to recall him getting disciplined by the league office for some cheap-shot play…I didn’t realize that he actually had talent.

  92. billybleedsblue on

    Anyone think Hannan should be disciplined? If not, anyone think the Lightning should do something? If you’re playing chess and you’re about to exchange pieces, what do you look to take when your opponent eliminates one of your bishops? Hmmm…maybe you go after their Semin? *shrugs* Playoffs is war. If I were the Caps, I’d be praying for Gagne to be ok.

  93. I heard Downie’s dad died in a car crash when Downie was a kid, and apparently he was in the car.

    Jimbo, yeah, he threw a crazy hit at some Sens player in the pre-season. Left his feet and went straight for the head. I think they gave him a 20 game suspension.

  94. JimboWoodside on

    Thanks, Orr – that must be what I was thinking of – 20 games! That’s more like it!

    I don’t think the Hannan hit was dirty – he was just finishing his check. It was just unfortunate how Gagne went down. If he doesn’t lose his footing, there wouldn’t have been an injury at all.

    However, I wouldn’t be surprised if TB takes some shots at him or some other player on the Caps..

  95. billybleedsblue on

    Orr, Hannan body-slammed Gagne, who landed on his back and head. I don’t know if it was technically a body slam, or what it’s called in professional wrestling, but I know it’s not a hockey play.

  96. billybleedsblue on

    word, I’ll take another look. I only saw it once, and it looked like Gagne was out of the play and off his feet and then Hannan finished him with a slam. I’ll check it out.

  97. billybleedsblue on

    yeah, Hannan was just finishing the play it seems, it’s just too bad for Gagne that he was in a bad position and unable to brace himself. He hit the ice fairly hard there. Ouch. I kind of almost heard “FINISH HIM!” in the background though. ha.

  98. I still stand by what I said when it happened, it was a very racist hit, and the ice should be fined!

    Actually, it should be suspended. They’ll have to play the next game on a basketball court.

    LOL! The NHL should do that. Just one game where they play roller hockey outside. Forget the Winter Classic!

  99. billybleedsblue on

    oh man, there would be so many injuries most likely. you can’t stop and/or change direction on asphalt anywhere near how you can on ice, no matter how you try to match the hardness of your wheels and speed of bearings, it’s totally different. It would probably be funny as heck to watch, but really dangerous for the players. So, whattaya say, Pens vs. Flyers rollerblade classic? :D

  100. You know…Gange has to be smarter than that…why would you go into the corner at that angle for a puck with someone behind you? That’s not a smart forecheck…He put himself in a bad position…

    That’s a rough hit but it’s clean…Punishment is still part of the game…You should fear the corners and respect them…play smart…Duh!

  101. JimboWoodside on

    In retrospect, it *did* look like Hannan body-slammed him – but I really don’t think he was meaning to do that. It looked worse than it actually was.

  102. The slam is part of finishing the check, no? Is that a penalty? Not sure it is…unless there is intent to injure…

  103. billybleedsblue on

    it’s kinda weird how the body-slam play gets no call, but that awesome and clean hip-check from last night’s game got a call for clipping. wtb?! The officiating as we all know leaves much to be desired…

  104. JimboWoodside on

    I’m not sure, NYR – I mean, if you hit a guy and he’s going down as a result of the hit (as long as it was a clean hit, which this one was), what are you supposed to do, catch him?

  105. JimboWoodside on

    That was perfectly-executed hip check (last night), and there used to be so many more of those back in the old days – I have no idea what that ref was thinking!

    It’s funny, back when hip-checking was more popular, there was the thinking that “low hits” were causing players’ knees to get injured, and I suppose that this was true, to some extent. But now, nobody hits low anymore, and there’s all this furor over head shots.

    What is the solution?

  106. LT56

    Finished second in my league and first in the other league with some of the boneheads

    May I ask who you are? :)

  107. JimboWoodside on

    No, he did not get the player in the knees – but the guy that got hit went “over the top” and did a flip, like the recipient of a good hip check will sometimes do, so it looked like hell, but it was a clean hipcheck, not a clip/

  108. billybleedsblue on

    Jimbo, I don’t know, but what needs to happen for sure is the officiating needs to improve. Maybe the calls should be taken off the ice, and put in a booth where they can see a replay IMMEDIATELY, and in the process, take the refs off the ice leaving only 2 linesmen. this will increase the accuracy of calls and increase the amount of open ice with 2 less bodies. Linesmen can call majors and call the lines, drop the pucks and try to keep the peace when needed.
    how some things are called and others are overlooked and how that all changes on a seemingly nightly basis…. the inconsistency of the whole thing is pretty weak.

  109. billybleedsblue on

    Yeah, Orr, the hip check last night was about as textbook and clean as they come. I would have been annoyed if there was a ppg on the ensuing pp.

  110. Yeah, the officials need to study the rulebook all summer long. They must suffer from short term memory loss, like Stewie.

    It’s a tough game to call, but when there’s four of these guys on the ice, you’d think it would be a little easier at making the right calls/non-calls.

  111. Referees are more interested on making an impact on games, and making their presence known – as if sports are about the worthless referees – than making the correct calls / non calls.

  112. JimboWoodside on

    Billy, when I asked what the solution was, it was a rhetorical question – I didn’t mean that you had to try to answer it. You probably understood that.

    Unfortunately, in any sport where one player can legally hit another, (football is another one) sometimes players are going to get injured – I don’t think there’s any way to avoid it.

    WHO!? Ferryo!?

  113. billybleedsblue on

    Jimbo, it’s ok, I know it was rhetorical. Lots of times I take that as my cue to share my crazy theories. Sorry :( I would like to explore the idea of removing the refs from the ice though. I bet I know at least one Ranger that would have liked that just a few days ago :'(

    Ugh, we can’t live in the past though. Ok, I gotta call it a night, early start tomorrow. Cheers, boneheads. :D

  114. JimboWoodside on

    Bad break for the Wings – that Ferriero guy looks like a young John Tonelli.

  115. JimboWoodside on

    ‘Night, Billy! Interesting idea, though – maybe they should have a replay booth like that, but it might get out-of-hand if there are too many calls that need that type of scrutiny – games would go on forever.

  116. JimboWoodside on

    There are a few refs that I’d like to see plucked from the ice, preferably on a permanent basis – are you listening, Mr. Devorski!?

  117. LOL Jimbo. If the referees had called our series fairly, we’d have been up 3-1 in the series.

    I put red white and blue highlights in my hair, CCCP. Thanks for noticing :)

  118. JimboWoodside on

    Hahaha – you’re nuts, Tiki – now, don’t take that as an insult, please! ;-)

    Yeah, we got robbed on a few occasions – but we weren’t very good in that series – we played a lot better in many, many regular season games.

  119. It all started with Game 1 Jimbo. If they had blown the play dead because of lost sight of the puck, then we’d most likely have won. Whole different series. Unfortunately, fair refs weren’t in the cards. As usual.

  120. JimboWoodside on

    That bad call set the tone, for sure. Well, better luck next season – it should be an interesting summer. Let’s see what Glen gets me for my birthday!

  121. JimboWoodside on

    Jeeez! No, please – I haven’t been that bad! I didn’t commit any war-crimes or anything!

    Kinda weird that Higgins landed on a team that is a favorite to win the Cup – and that he got the only goal in the last game – he couldn’t hit the side of a barn with a shot while he was with the Rangers…

  122. Slats should have known better. You don’t sign a New York kid to play for NYR.

    Didn’t work for Jessiwoman. it didn’t work for Sanguinetti. It didn’t work for Higgins.

    I’m sure there’s more New Yorkers who have disappointed us.

  123. JimboWoodside on

    Hmmm………thinking about that…..we had Brian Mullen, but I wish we would have had his brother Joey…he was a sniper!

  124. JimboWoodside on

    Nicky Fotiu wasn’t a disappointment……and Cally is good too, but he’s from Rochester, I think..way up there.

  125. Carp, are you already awake ??????

    It took me 1,5 hours now to mow the lawn from 3.30 am to 5 am your time and now I am ready to go….:)

  126. “That bad call set the tone, for sure. Well, better luck next season – it should be an interesting summer. Let’s see what Glen gets me for my birthday!”

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