Game 2: Rangers at Capitals tonight

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Happy Tax Day! The crooks.

Some good stuff last night. I like it when guys fight during the playoffs (not the staged fights, or the message-sending in lopsided games). Somebody, years ago, decided “oooh, you can’t fight during the playoffs … you have to be disciplined.” It’s ridiculous, isn’t it?

I mean, you have to be careful not to get an instigator penalty or to be suckered in by a guy who’s going to turtle. But if things get hot, what the heck, drop ’em like a man and get it done. We spend six months accepting fighting as “part of the game.” Then when games mean the most, and when they are their most competitive, and when anger builds up in a playoff series, they’re not supposed to fight anymore? Idiotic.

I also think the kid Stoll (he’s not related to Staal, Stall or Stahl, is he?) has to be suspended for that cheap head-shot from behind on White in the Kings-Sharks game. I doubt the NHL will have the onions to do anything about it.

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I’ve got an important meeting this morning. Have to introduce Mr. T to Mr. Sasquatch. Be back this afternoon, and then all night and all tomorrow and, of course, all of Sunday at MSG, etc.

Quick question for you guys: I normally write my game reviews after midnight or so, then schedule them to go up around 6-7 a.m. Would you prefer if I posted them right away (it is the internet, after all)? Does it matter? Do you like to go to bed and wake up with a new post?

Here are the pre-game notes, courtesy of the Rangers:

NEW YORK RANGERS at WASHINGTON CAPITALS
2011 Stanley Cup Playoffs – Eastern Conference Quarterfinal, Game Two
Friday, Apr. 15, 7:30 p.m.
Verizon Center• Washington, DC

Rangers (Regular Season): 44-33-5 (93 pts)
Capitals (Regular Season): 48-23-11 (107 pts)

TONIGHT’S GAME:
The Rangers will face-off against the Washington Capitals at Verizon Center (7:30 p.m.), in Game Two of their Eastern Conference Quarterfinal match-up. The Blueshirts opened their Stanley Cup Playoffs with a 2-1 overtime loss vs. the Capitals in Game One Wednesday at Verizon Center, marking the first time in five years the Rangers dropped their first game of the opening round (2006 Playoffs). The Rangers enter the contest with a 197-213-8 record all-time in 418 playoff contests, including an 88-131-6 mark on the road.  New York has posted a 45-45-2 record all-time in Game Twos of playoff series.

New York entered the 2011 Stanley Cup Playoffs having posted a record of 44-33-5 (93 pts) overall with a 24-16-1 mark on the road in the regular season. The Blueshirts are one of seven Eastern Conference teams to have registered at least five seasons of 40+ wins since 2005-06, and one of five Eastern Conference teams to advance to the playoffs in five of the six seasons (no team has advanced to the playoffs in all six seasons).  Compared to last season, the Rangers registered six more wins and six more points (38-33-11, 87 points in 2009-10), having tallied 11 more goals (233 this season, 222 last season) while allowing 20 fewer goals against (198 this season, 218 last season).  New York also posted a six-goal improvement while shorthanded compared to 2009-10 (11 this season, five last season). The Rangers’ 44 wins tied for sixth most in team history, and their 24 road wins tied the franchise record (1993-94).

BROADCAST INFORMATION:
TV: MSG Network
7:00 p.m. – Rangers Pre-Game Show with Al Trautwig, Mike Keenan and Ron Duguay
7:30 p.m. – Rangers at Capitals
Broadcasters: Sam Rosen (Play-By-Play), Joe Micheletti (Analyst), John Giannone (In-Game Reporter)
Radio: 1050 ESPN Radio and newyorkrangers.com
7:00 p.m. – Rangers Pre-Game Show
7:30 p.m. – Rangers at Capitals
Broadcasters: Kenny Albert (Play-By-Play), Dave Maloney (Analyst)

ALL-TIME RANGERS PLAYOFF RECORDS:
Overall: 197-213-8

  • Home: 109-82-2
  • Away: 88-131-6
  • Goals for: 1,168
  • Goals against: 1,202

ALL-TIME PLAYOFF RECORDS – RANGERS vs. CAPITALS
The Rangers and Capitals are meeting in the playoffs for the sixth time overall and the second time in three years. Their last postseason encounter was an Eastern Conference Quarterfinal series in 2009, won by Washington 4-3. Overall, the Blueshirts have a 2-3 playoff series record vs. the Capitals, posting a 14-16 mark in 30 postseason contests.

RANGERS vs. CAPITALS:

  • All-Time (Regular Season): 83-84-18-5 overall (46-37-9-2 at home; 37-47-9-3 on the road)
  • 2010-11: The Rangers posted a 3-1-0 record vs. the Capitals in their regular season series, including a 2-0-0 mark at Verizon Center. New York out-scored Washington, 18-6, led by Brian Boyle’s seven points (three goals, four assists). The Rangers held the Capitals to one goal or less three times, including two shutouts by Henrik Lundqvist.
  • Over the last two seasons, the Blueshirts have tallied 10 power play goals in 30 opportunities (33.3%) in their last eight regular season games vs. Washington, including six goals in 17 power play attempts (35.3%) in four games in 2009-10.
  • Henrik Lundqvist has posted a 3-5 record with a 2.75 goals against average and one shutout in eight career playoff contests vs. Washington
  • Vinny Prospal leads the Rangers with six goals, eight assists and 14 points in 15 career playoff contests vs. Washington
  • New York lists one former Capital on their roster: Steve Eminger (2002-03 – 2007-08)
  • Washington lists two former Rangers on their roster: Mike Knuble (1998-99 – 1999-00); Tom Poti (2001-02 – 2005-06)

SPECIAL TEAMS
The Blueshirts posted a plus-13 rating on special teams (PPG+SHG minus PPGA+SHGA) this season, which tied for second in the league.

  • Power Play: New York did not tally a goal in two power play opportunities (4:00) in Game One on Wednesday at Washington. The Rangers ranked 18th overall (49-290, 16.9%) and 21st on the road (21-139, 15.1%) in the regular season, and registered a 19.4% (14-72) success rate in their final 21 games. The Blueshirts were 5-15 (12:41) in five-on-three situations (last – 4/3 at PHI), and 0-7 (8:42) when four-on-three (last – 4/3 at PHI). Shorthanded goals allowed (5): 11/20 at MIN (Cullen); 12/5 vs. OTT (Kelly); 1/2 at FLA (Weiss); 1/16 vs. PHI (Richards); 3/20 at PIT (Kunitz).
  • Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts held the Capitals scoreless in two shorthanded situations (4:00) in Game One on Wednesday at Washington. New York tied for ninth overall (215-257, 83.7%) and ranked sixth on the road (117-139, 84.2%) in the regular season, and surrendered just two goals in 20 attempts (90.0%) on the penalty kill in their final 11 games. The Rangers were 7-10 (7:21) in three-on-five situations (last – 2/27 vs. TBL), and 4-6 (2:41) when three-on-four (last – 11/15 at PIT). Shorthanded goals for (11): 10/9 at BUF (Dubinsky); 11/5 at NJD (Dubinsky); 11/15 at PIT (Staal); 11/24 at TBL (Boyle); 11/26 at FLA (Prust); 12/5 vs. OTT (Prust); 12/12 vs. WSH (Staal); 12/16 vs. PHX (Prust); 1/7 at DAL (Fedotenko); 2/27 vs. TBL (Prust); 3/15 vs. NYI (Prust).
  • Four-on-Four: The Rangers and Capitals did not skate in a four-on-four situation in Game One on Wednesday at Washington. During the regular season, New York was plus-three in 67, four-on-four situations (134:41), and even in one, three-on-three situation (2:00) this season (2/17 vs. LAK). Four-on-four goals for (7): 10/18 vs. COL (Frolov); 11/11 vs. BUF (Anisimov); 11/15 at PIT (Callahan); 12/12 vs. WSH (Callahan); 1/5 vs. CAR (Zuccarello); 3/4 at OTT (Stepan); 3/6 vs. PHI (Zuccarello). Four-on-four goals allowed (4): 10/15 vs. TOR (Kessel); 1/1 at TBL (Thompson); 3/15 vs. NYI (Moulson); 4/3 at PHI (Zherdev).

PLAYOFF DEBUT
Seven Rangers made their playoff debut in Game One at Washington on Wednesday – Brian Boyle, Matt Gilroy, Brandon Prust, Ryan McDonagh, Michael Sauer, Derek Stepan, and Mats Zuccarello. Gilroy (goal) and Prust (assist) also registered their first career postseason point in the contest.

CLOSING TIME
The Blueshirts were the only team in the NHL who were undefeated when leading after two periods this season, posting a record of 29-0-0 in those contests. The Rangers tied for third in the league with a plus-22 goal differential in the third period (85 goals for, 63 goals against). New York also tied for second in the NHL with eight wins and 20 points in games in which it trailed entering the final frame.

RAISING THEIR GAME
The Rangers were undefeated in their last six games of the regular season vs. the top four teams in the Eastern Conference standings, including a 6-0 win at Washington on Feb. 25. New York out-scored their opponents, 27-7, in those contests, having tallied five or more goals in four of the six games while posting three shutouts.

CAPTAIN CLUTCH
Rangers Captain Chris Drury is tied for fourth in the NHL all-time with four playoff overtime goals, and ranks fourth among active NHL players and leads the team with 47 goals in 131 career postseason contests. Drury has participated in the playoffs eight times, having advanced to at least the Conference Finals in five of those eight seasons.

THE PUCK STOPS HERE
Henrik Lundqvist was named the NHL’s Third Star of the Week for the period ending Mar. 27 after posting a 2-0-1 record, 0.32 GAA, .987 Sv% and two shutouts in three games. On Mar. 26, Lundqvist stopped 26 shots in a 1-0 victory at Boston to establish a new career-high with his league leading, 11th shutout of the season, while appearing in his 400th career game. His 11 shutouts are tied for second in team history for most shutouts in a season, and are the most by a Ranger since John Ross Roach posted 13 shutouts in 1928-29. He is now one of two active goaltenders with at least two seasons of 10+ shutouts (M. Brodeur – 4). Lundqvist also posted his 30th win of the season on Mar. 18 vs. Montreal to extend his NHL record by recording 30 or more wins in six consecutive seasons to begin his career, and extend his franchise record by posting his sixth straight 30-win season. Lundqvist established a new career-high by appearing in his 22nd consecutive contest (dating back to Feb. 11) on Mar. 31 at Long Island. Lundqvist has appeared in 27 straight games entering tonight’s contest, and has started each of the Rangers last 30 playoff games.

TURNING LEMONS INTO LEMONADE
The Rangers tied for fourth in the league with 11 shorthanded goals this season, the most for New York since they notched 11 in 2006-07 and tied for 12th most in franchise history. Brandon Prust led the team and tied for second and third in the league, respectively, with a career-high, seven shorthanded points and five shorthanded goals. His five shorthanded goals are the most by a Ranger since Theo Fleury tallied seven shorthanded goals in 2000-01. Brian Boyle led the Rangers and tied for second in the NHL with a career-best, three shorthanded assists.

AMONG THE LEAGUE LEADERS
The Rangers completed the regular season leading the league in hits (2,333), ranked fourth in blocked shots (1,301), tied for first in shutouts (11), second in number of players with at least one GWG (19), third in shootout wins (nine), fourth in road wins (24), fifth in goals against (198), and fifth with a plus-35 goal differential.

INJURIES:

  • Derek Boogaard (shoulder, 12/9) – 53
  • Alex Frolov (knee, 1/8) – 40
  • Martin Biron (collarbone, 2/28) – 19
  • Ryan Callahan (ankle, 4/4) – 3

Total Man-Games Lost (Regular Season, Playoffs): 327

Total Man-Games Lost (Playoffs): 4

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396 Comments

  1. bull dog line on

    game reviews are a favorite of mine, and I look forward to them in the morning.

  2. I think one day eddie used the words to The Beatles “Tax Man” and inserted “The Prust” (surprise). Memories.

  3. Oh Carp – Stoll definitely deserves a game or two. That was a pretty brutal hit on a defenseless player who happened to be bent over *before* Stoll got in there to hit him.

  4. I agree – Game Reviews in the Morning please. It’s nice to have the new thread to start a new discussion. If they are up the night before than the conversation will just continue as it was and people are pretty extreme directly following a game (including myself).

  5. Good playoff game day (2) everyone. I agree. Post the game reviews in the morning to start a new discussion (as Mannyfried) said.

    LGR!

  6. I will be pissed off if I see the Rangers playing pensive hockey tonight. The big boys Bertrand ready to soften up the Caps…Boyle, Prust, Dubi, channel your best Cally impression tonight!

    Let’s go Rangers!

  7. I would love to have the reviews right away since that would mean morning to me over here, but its no prob waiting to lunchtime either :)

  8. Stranger Nation on

    Cup o Joe and a game review in the AM – nothing better

    Can we date the Capt Clutch stats and not just have a paragraph on heroics from a day gone by. Like before 2007-08 season Capt Clutch (repeat paragraph) – Upon joining the Rangers, he has done a lot less (or something like that..)

    Has there been an official line-up posted by torts?

  9. My vote for mornings too, Carp!!! And thanks for everything! This blog is my Rangers Bible!!

  10. Stranger Nation on

    Watching Kings-Sharks game was very entertaining hockey. Love this time of year.

    Three great games with the Filth going down to a hot goalie and the Bruins performing their perennial spring choke.

    Lets Go NYR!

  11. Stranger Nation on

    The San Jose crowd was alive last night. Caps must have the weakest fans in the league, what a bunch of posers.

  12. LinCalPrustBoylahan on

    Morning ‘Heads and Happy Game 2 Day to youse!!

    Mornings Carp, something to look forwards to!!

    Hope the 4 waves of severe weather we’re supposed to have today do NOT lead to power outages (or worse). It’s always on game day.

  13. Like the morning reviews. Gives us time to process the game ourselves and then read your take. See if we’re thinking what you’re thinking or if we’ve seen what you’ve seen. Trying to get my neighbor to bring the big screen outside tonight to watch the game. Although that hasn’t been too lucky lately.

    LET’S GO RANGERS! Expect to see some Staal snarl tonight.

  14. By the way Cabezas del huesos – Am I the only person on here who picked the Habs to upset the Bruins? Anybody else?

    That was a mildly entertaining game. Looks like Tim Thomas is vulnerable on the side-to-side…..

  15. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    Carp:
    Which ratings are higher ? (traffic flow) It is not about the consumer/fan…it is all about the ratings.

    Boneheads:
    I have a good feeling for tonight and for the series to go six if we win tonight or 7 if we lose. The longer the better, we are a grinding team, grinding works best over the long haul

  16. Stranger Nation on

    High Ratings – people love this team which may be painful to watch with the lack of firepower but will be underdogs in every game. I’ve read David/Goliath had big ratings too.

  17. Stranger Nation on

    I picked Boston thinking the snarl from the series would carry over. Gionta showed what a real sniper looks like – hope Gabby was watching and taking notes…

  18. Stranger Nation on

    Wolly is the X factor – assisted on only Ranger Goal – best skater on the ice for the blueshirts – has to play with urgency – I would give him big minutes and play him with Vinny and Artie.

  19. Well it’s only one game Stranger…one game. I am just wondering if I am insane…because I think I picked the Habs in 5? Partially because I hate the Bruins and partially because I think they are a weak, weak team who won a weak division.

  20. OK, thanks. That’s what I thought. Mornings it is.

    Marji, the sun doesn’t shine where I hit ’em.

    Good morning, Sally!

    See youse all later.

  21. Stranger Nation on

    Line-up:

    Vinny – Artie – Wolly Bear
    Gabby – Step – Dubi
    Prust – Boyle – Feds
    Aves – Dreary – Gilly

  22. Stranger Nation on

    Carp – does Torts match lines?

    It seems like Dubi is out a lot against Ovie’s line. Torts’ strategy maybe to grind low and keep puck possession and prevent rushes. When given the chance, why not put our checking line out there against them, have us bang away at him with Boyle/Feds/Prust along with staal and Damn Girardi.

  23. Poor Hobbit Wizard …. Sorry NYR but I am OK with this lineup. I love when The Prust, Boyle and Feds are together. If Gilly is stepping in for Christensen or Hobbit Wizard does that mean that Eminger is in on D? DID WE GET 7 D-MEN IN THE LINEUP!?

    Are these real Stranger?

  24. Carp –

    I like to see new posts in the AM – but you do whatever is easier for you – this is a great blog – well done!!

  25. those aren’t the lines.

    Torts occasionally matches. Mostly he just gets his No. 1 D pair out there against Ovechkin.

  26. MORE HITTING TONIGHT!!! EARLY GOAL!!!! TWO GOAL LEAD GOING INTO THE THIRD PERIOD!!!! PAYBACK!!!!!!!! ARRGGGHHH DIMITRI KRISTISCH!!!!! JOHN DRUCE!!!!ROD LANGWAY AND ALEXANDR SEMIN!!!!!!!

  27. Gonzo Grabby on

    good morning all. hey, whatever happens tonight, at least we stole road ice in game 1!!

  28. Stool slams White from behind and then while While is pretty much knocked out, Stool is looking at him as if to say nightie night. WTB? Stool should be out for the remainder of the playoffs. IMO.

  29. billybleedsblue on

    Carp, I agree about that Stoll hit. I don’t know how the refs missed that one. I guess they were too busy watching the other hit that was happening at the same time– I know I was. That play was definition head-hunting.

  30. Stranger Nation on

    John Druce for Ranger Fans is like Bucky Dent for Red Sox fans.

    That guy killed us – we will no longer refer to him…ever

  31. Gonzo Grabby on

    carp, i like to read game reviews at exactly 7:59 am cst. and only on mondays wednesdays an fridays. please and thank you!

  32. Stranger Nation on

    From my fingertips to Torts’ ears – that sounds a little gross actually – anyway, we need Gilly and Em in lineup. McCabe scares the heck out of me. Every time on the ice they threw it in his corner. We need Em with him, though Gilly played well.

  33. Gonzo Grabby on

    i set my alarm to new gameday posts. u better believe wen that sucker goes off, im up, i gt coffee, and plant my byfuglien maker at the computer desk!.

  34. Stranger – you have your fingers in Torts’ ears and now you are stealing words from my mouth. You sicko! (kidding).

    I completely agree. It is McCabes lack of speed that horrifies me. When he skates backwards he can be beaten by ANYBODY (including oy-vey and Semen Varlyamov). Seeing how gassed those guys were I think we need to get Eminger in as the 7th D-Man. We NEED to get physical bodies on these Caps. Emingers weakness I think is that his play is less physical in the Defensive Zone than it is in the Neutral Zone – I think that could be used as an advantage in this series. He needs to get physical (cue the song “Let’s Get Physical) in the neutral zone and force some turnovers so we can have more puck possession and more time in the zone.

  35. Bottom line torts is an ahole and it’s his way or the high way even if his way doesn’t work which it hasn’t most of the year. His hard on for avery is disgusting when it gets in the way of the team winning or I should say giving the team a better shot at winning.But Try and ask him and he’ll tell you I’m not getting into with you we’re done!!!! What an egotisticle ahole. Please fire hime sather since I’m sure your ass will still be here because your love moffin dolan is still here.

  36. Stranger Nation on

    Vince stoking the Avery fire – you trying to wake up Orr, get Stuart’s hear a racing, provide RI Ranger with a reach around?

    Manny – I would cue up “Hit Em Hard” by Run DMC (selected lyrics for tonite’s game)

    In and out, sendin shouts out the mouth
    If in doubt, chin em out, grill his mouth and send his snout South
    I’m out – of course the force from up North
    ain’t up for grabs yup whattup then it’s up yours!

    Hit ’em hard, catch him off his guard – what?
    Hit ’em hard, catch him off his guard – what?
    Hit ’em hard, hit ’em hit ’em hard – what?
    Hit ’em hard, hit ’em hit ’em hard..

    The hard hitter, I come to cross a critter splitter
    Gold digger, better get a babysitter
    I’m Daddy, cruisin like a Caddy braggin
    Rag rag em, bruise em in a paddywagon

    You get the picture…

  37. Stoll hit was a head shot, and boarding no question about it and it should have been called right there and then.

    As for our boys, well. The Caps really are playing defense huh?
    We need to get back to our down low grind game. Couple of guys did it well, Prust, Boyle Feds, but not much more. Dubi seem to come on toward the end but thats not good enough.
    I think the jitters are gone and so are the exuses….we can ABSOLUTELY beat the Caps.

    BELIEVE!!

  38. Bottom line torts is an ahole and it’s his way or the high way even if his way doesn’t work which it hasn’t most of the year.

    ***

    Would you care to elaborate? What didn’t work? Breaking in 3 rookies in important roles, revamping the roster so that the vast majority of players have 5 or less seasons in the NHL? Getting more points than last year’s team and exceeding expectations by making the playoffs? I have to say a lot of people with and without a vested interest in the Rangers would say that a lot of things worked. If it came at the expense of a player with diminishing skills and utility who has no one to blame but himself for how his career has gone then it’s minimal collateral damaged with respect to the longer term plans of the organization.

  39. CT – I wouldn’t even respond to that nonsense. We all know better. I love Torts – I think a lot of people that are on here daily also love Torts.

    Live free or die!

  40. Stranger Nation on

    CTB – do not take the bait – think positive – breathe deep – OMMM….OMMMM….OMMM – Need to keep the karma train on track.

  41. Stranger Nation on

    If Semin plays with Ovi we need to match up lines – do not agree with only having Staal/Girardi on ice – need Prust/Boyle/Feds on ice too.

    Caps D coughed up the puck multiple times on break out with no pressure but our forecheck was non-existent as we would lose the puck so easily against their aggressive D. Need a modified grind game because their D is not that mobile and they were anticipating grind and intercepting passes behind the net – a very risky strategy – we need to keep one forward in front of net – forces them to play one guy high and opens up cycling.

  42. I don’t love or hate Torts, he’s a coach. He implemented a plan for the team and then it was up to other people (namely the players) to execute the plan. If it works he gets praised, if it doesn’t he gets scorned. He can yell all he wants about blocking shots and grinding hard and if the players don’t do it, that’s on them and not him. Likewise if the players do commit themselves to a hard working style then that’s on them as well.

    I’m sure he’s not telling them in practice that they should more/less play catch with the puck on the PP during games. I’m sure he didn’t tell Gaborik to score 20 less goals and 40 less points this year. And I’m sure he wasn’t the one that told Boyle to work his aasen off on a daily basis in the offseason to become a better player. The game on the ice is usually decided by the people that are actually on the ice.

  43. So we now have VinceA, bybytorts and 50-60% of wicky who think Torts should have been fired by now. Any more?

  44. Carp –

    If they win, post the review right away! I don’t know about everyone else, but the general feeiling I have after a win is that I want to read all about it as soon as I can.

    If they lose, well, then I’m in no rush to read more – better let the night pass and get the bad taste out.

    Thanks.

  45. Stole should be suspended!

    VinceA- Maybe you and byby should start a band?

    Let’s GO Rangers!

  46. Good Points Stranger…..Good points.

    I said it yesterday and I am saying it right now – someone expendable HAS to fight Ovie. HAS TOO. Paging Sean Avery! We have to get this guy off the ice. Can Chad Johnson get out there on regular skates and do it? Newbury? Come on! Eminger? Christensen (which would be hilarious)?

  47. Manny,

    You really think Ovechkin is going to take himself off the ice with a fight (let alone risk injury)? How many fights does he have in his career? Less than 5?

  48. I think he will. I know it will take some time. You always disagree with me when I say “get BLANK to take a penalty” and you are usually right. My theories don’t usually pan out. I think if you annoy him and play him physically and wait for him to take some cheap shot (which he does daily) and then call him on it – challenge him – he will drop the gloves. He fought Dubinsky this year.

  49. post them right away. people can read your reviews when they get up or get on the site…..

  50. czechthemout!!!! on

    Great to see the high ratings! Hockey is coming on strong. Just wait till the league gets it’s new tv deal. I read where they will not only be on VS and NBC, but also on ESPN. Even FOX and TBS are interested. In that same article, I read that they will get close to NBA money. If they do, expect the cap to go up north of 70,000,000.

    The only negative about that is that Sather won’t be able to control himself in the free agent class of 2012.

  51. ThisYearsModel on

    Carp: Put the updates up as soon as you write them. This IS the internet, and those of us on the left coast will appreciate it.

  52. And I’m sure he wasn’t the one that told Boyle to work his aasen off on a daily basis in the offseason to become a better player.

    ———————-

    you might be wrong here…i thought that was the message to work hard and get in better shape or he won’t make the line up. I could be wrong though, too :)

    Carp

    Morning review, please!

  53. you might be wrong here…i thought that was the message to work hard and get in better shape or he won’t make the line up. I could be wrong though, too :)

    ***

    I’m sure something was said to that effect, but I think it was Boyle that personally sought out the figure skater lady.

  54. Stoll should definitely be suspended. BUT, I also think the NHL should start informing the players that they have a responsibility to protect themselves on the ice at all times. You’re playing a fast, mean and vicious game like hockey and you’re going to have your head so close to the boards and be so oblivious to your surroundings? That’s crazy! I’ll bet Forsberg or Messier would never be victimised in such manner.

  55. JBytes – I agree with you. Messier was just saying that the other day. He’s a genius and he’s 100% right. He was talking about how kids don’t learn to protect themselves – the focus is on not hurting people….he was saying people should learn to instinctually get the eff out of the way! sometimes.

  56. I wouldn’t call the Caps fans posers… I am a season ticket holder of the Capitals, but am a life-long Rangers fan. I like watching hockey and seeing the Blueshirts when they come to town. The Caps fans are, however, completely uneducated when it comes to hockey and knowledge of the rules, etc. It is really annoying hearing them complain about what they think is a penalty. I sometimes have to educate a boneheaded Caps fan or two during the game… most Caps fans here are rednecks from Maryland or Virginia, I imagine a similar fan that you’d see at a Hurricanes game.
    I am looking forward to seeing the Rangers come out and outwork, outhit, and out-defend the Caps tonight… it is the key to winning.

  57. I am watching the game tonight with my buddy who is from DC area and a fan of all DC area sports teams including the Caps. He is a REAL and pure fan. He deserves a lot of credit. He is a GREAT guy and a great sports fan.

  58. I think the world outside this message board and blog is pretty sad. I mean this across all sports and across all cities. Maybe Hockey fans tend to know more because there are fewer. Yankees fans and Red Sox fans…..almost no difference. Ignorant pigs the majority of both.

  59. No LW, thats it.

    we are the only three anti-tortorellas

    everyone else loves him because hes so charming and brilliant

  60. billybleedsblue on

    LOL MIAMI PIMP THANK YOU FOR THE LINK. Man, the penguin pinata, the whole thing… hilarious. Just like you, buddy. Just liiiike you.

    Let’s Go Rangers!!!!!

  61. Ria (the silent bonehead) on

    Carp I look forward to my morning coffee in my Rangers mug reading your game review great best way to get my morning started. Thank you very much! LETS GO RANGERS

  62. Oh – You’re right. I typed it out. it does look awkward. I am sorry for critiquing. Now bring on the intellectual debate about coaching.

  63. Ria (the silent bonehead) on

    Read on the waseka? Stoll is having a phone hearing today guess no suspension

  64. Stranger Nation on

    Steve – I think you made my point, no?

    Definition from Urban Dictionary:

    A poser is someone who tries to fit into a profile they aren’t. People who try to give off the impression that they are one thing when they are really another.

    i.e. – Caps fan posing as a knowledgeable hockey fan, eh?

  65. You didn’t stipulate how you intended to use the word, Stranger Nation. I kind of figured you were referring to their intensity, or willingness to support the team. I think people here actually do want to support and cheer for DC teams…

  66. Have you guys seen Boudreau’s commercials? He sells EVERYTHING in DC. It seems like any local business can get him as a spokesman.

  67. Stranger Nation on

    Steve – Are you a

    a) Lawyer

    b) English teacher

    c) Poser

    Seriously, they do support their team – they all wear red – ooohhhh. How creative!! Do they wave pom-poms as well?

    Give me the 80’s garden with smoke in the stairwells, fights in the stands and $4 beers.

  68. >>just looks awkward with the “e”s

    Well, at least I’m thankful you didn’t go with “bibitorts”.

  69. Amen Stranger.

    Ok I know two people that root for the Caps: You decide.

    1. Great Sports fan in general. From DC. Loves them. Knows TONS about hockey and is a great person and sports guy. Watching the game with him tonight – he is a REAL fan.

    2. Dates a girl from DC – barely knows anything about sports – bought an Ovechkin Jersey at his first hockey game – afterwards called me to ask how many blue lines were on the ice (this was last year). This season he went to game 1 and txted me pictures of the “sea of red” and then asked me, “what is icing.”

  70. Manny, are you trying to inspire more antitortorellaisms from me??

    My man VinceA kinda stole my thunder today and crystallized my tortorella-thoughts exactly.

    go vinceA!

  71. I actually am. Why not go ahead and lay it on. I respect everyone’s opinion. It does make me love torts though hearing that people hate him.

  72. >>… Stoll is having a phone hearing today guess no suspension

    No, it just means it’ll be a very short suspension [one or two matches].

  73. “smoke in the stairwells” Lol, I remember sitting in the blue seats, and in between periods going to the stairwells to “smoke”. The the fans below humming the Dragnet theme to give us a heads up when security came. Good times!

  74. Stranger Nation

    Don’t say that they need to get a guy in front of the net. Ye Gods that’s been a mantra of mine all season ( for the past three seasons), and they just won;t do it. Something in the water perhaps?

    Allergic to Crease paint? Their Momma done tole them? When they were in knee pants?

    I think that the day that they start putting a guy in front of the net on attack, is the time when they’ll really begin to be taken seriously by the rest of the league. All the winning teams do it…for some odd reason they do not. Don’t ask me – I’ve got no answers…just more and more questions.

  75. Ria (the silent bonehead) on

    Stranger they only wear red at the Caps game because they give them the shirts upon entering the arena lol

  76. the one thing that makes me curious is the pro-tortorella-ers

    just saying how great of a coach he is, but not saying WHY?

    thank you CCCP!

  77. Fran – Boyle. You say this – then I say Boyle. I came on board this season. Glad to have Stranger on the “get in the crease” team. We should seek solidarity in our quest. You can lead. Lead my good man. Lead for gods sakes.

    We have got to park Boyle there and let him beat the snot out of anyone that comes near him. Claim that area. Use a freakin’ flag if you have to!

  78. Why is Torts great…. again?

    Ok Bye Bi, here goes.

    1) Stuck with youth movement… that wasnt Sather all alone ;-)

    2) Rapidly upscaled youth to play key minutes… not just rookies, but guys that werent stars where they were before…. see Prust?

    3) Handled injuries well. Keeping the locker room intact, especially without a C on the ice isnt easy.

    4) Got us into the playoffs

  79. leave the reviews for the morning after Carp. I love starting each day with a fresh new post to read

  80. Doodie Machetto on

    My predictions went 6 for 8 in game 1. Fortunately, the two losses (Philly and Boston) I predicted to have longer series (7 and 6, respectively).

    Rangers win tonight if and only if they score 3 goals.

  81. Where do I get this stuff? Living in DC and having to watch the 1st game on “CSN” –

    Their production quality reminds me of pre-NBC ownership late-night Telemundo.

  82. Yea I am all of the above… bonehead

    Seriously, Rangers have had a fanbase for much longer, and we are much more knowledgeable.
    I agree with MSG as being a good place to catch a game.

    In DC its a different way to support the team, but at least they come out and support them… just saying its better than Phoenix, Atlanta or Florida, no?

    Anyway, lets go Rangers!

  83. Doodie Machetto on

    Boyle is the softest big guy this side of Marek Malik. He isn’t built for traffic in front.

  84. But you’re right. I don’t mean to say otherwise. I just want him to play like his size dictates he can.

  85. Doodie Machetto on

    Miami, if you were to describe the quality in one word, what would that word be?

  86. Great point Manny!

    Think about it. CHARACTER players like Marty StL, Vinny LeCav, etc swear by him…

    Boyle DOES need to play harder. He has occasional grit, just needs to embrace it!

  87. Doodie Machetto on

    Zucarello and Gilroy are out.

    Makes sense to take out the goal scorer, who also had another awesome chance and was making great outlet passes.

  88. wow, this is just too easy.

    This anti-tortorella s%*t just writes itself.

    really? youre taking the lone goal scorer from game 1 out of game 2?

  89. Ria (the silent bonehead) on

    Question does still have their ticket from the 1st game they ever attended? I do actually I have all my ticket stubs from every game i’ve been to , although I can’t find my ticket stubs from the Mets playoffs & world series. Hmmm maybe my sister has them

  90. Whoah Doodie – that was a heart stopper – going from saying what a genius is to seeing Gilroy Prucha’d…..whoah

  91. Ria (the silent bonehead) on

    Oops “anyone” I really must proof read my post before I click send

  92. Ria, I still have the game program from my first game, 1973 vs Vancouver (a Ranger loss) the stub may still be in there. But the program is in storage.

  93. Good afternoon all! Morning posts, Carp, morning posts……it’s a great way to start the day fresh.

    Stranger, LMAO….
    Aves is in! Now I’m really looking forward to tonight!
    LGR!!!

  94. Doodie Machetto on

    Ria, no, I don’t. I don’t keep any stubs. I used to keep movie tickets when I was younger (like until age 13), but when I saw how much clutter it was, I abandoned the practice and tossed them all. I’ve never really saved anything since.

  95. LOL! The Torts haters got their wish!

    I have a strong feeeling that Hobbit Wizard will be back in on Sunday…Torts is punishing him for that stupid penalty he took…He should know better…

    The pressure is on EC tonight…Let’s see if he can make the jump from 4th line center to 1st line center….

    I don’t understand the Gilroy move…but Eminger also has a lot to prove tonight…

    I expect nothing positive from Avery tonight. I hope he surprises me…

  96. Carp
    All your picks , I mean my picks are losing there as*es off. See if you can find it streaming please. leaving the DC area tonight cant stand the fans, going to my first home game Sunday all yr. after 20 yrs of seasons.

  97. Doodie Machetto on

    Yeah, sorry to those who read my earlier comments and had mini heart attacks about Gilroy. I misread WASEKA.

  98. CT

    i agree… Sasha is a freaking beast! so strong! Rangers players were just bouncing off of him in the last game trying to hit him… He’s a total package!

    Though, i hope Avery has a good game :)

  99. Actually, Torts said that he felt MZA’s was a detrimental to the team…

    That’s the second time he has said. The last time was when he was scratched against Boston…

    OK, but I think that’s just a bunch of carcillo that he tells the press…there just isn’t a spot for him to play right now and his effort in Game 1 was pedestrian at worst…he isn’t a 4th liner…and Torts has no faith in his defensive game right now…

  100. torts is great coach because the rangers are moving in the right direction, there very young, the youth are developing, and the future looks even brighter.

    thsi team plays hard most nights. they took off maybe 7 games all season and there effort is on par with any team in the league. coach’s job is to get there team to play hard, smart, and improve. torts has done all 3…

    he is also brutally honets and i like that…

  101. Doodie Machetto on

    Once the hobbit took that early penalty, I knew he was going to have to have an amazing game to stay in the lineup. That he was invisible the rest of the way only confirmed his position in the press box.

  102. NYR – Eminger does have something to prove….but Gilroy scored a goal (our only goal) and had some good chances and played a good game.

    You know my opinion – Dress 7 D-Men and let Christensen take Hobbit Wizard out for a potato and rabbit stew.

  103. CapeBretonRangerFan on

    Great day for hockey up here in Canada, snowing like mad. Have a good day everyone. LGR!

  104. Avery fans should be happy.
    not saying i’m not.
    just 2 things:

    –i REALLY REALLY hope Sean keeps it together since he
    should know by now that the refs aren’t going to remotely help
    him out ala stoll last night vs. the sharks (Aves would have received
    a major, a game….)

    –curious about thoughts in regards to Zuc. hoping that his decline is
    just an aberration rather than exposing that he’s unable to keep it
    together for the nhl in the same way that st. louis has.

  105. I thought the same thing, Doodie. I knew Torts would glue him to the bench for that if he didn’t redeem himself with some good plays after…

    jpg – re: Zucc, I just think that there isn’t a spot for him right now. He willl be a very good NHL player. He needs to play 12-15 minutes to be effective and make plays. Torts can’t give that to him right now because he is unsure about his defensive game and we have more experienced guys in the top-6 role now. He isn’t a 4th liner. I expect him to be back in Sunday, unless EC or Avery score goals…

  106. oh yeah Carp
    i’d say stick with the morning review.

    on the one hand i’m curious what you have to say
    but if you posted after the game
    i think too many people would lose
    too much sleep commenting.
    gives everyone a new clean slate to
    discuss the next day.

  107. IMO, the pressure on EC will be limited and sporadic until the Rangers find a legitimate number 1 center. Once/if they do, EC’s days in a Ranger uniform will be limited.

    It would help, of course, if Gaborik started scoring, especially if that happened without EC on his line. However, after the opening game where Gabbie looked like he did in all but 3 games this past year and didn’t score, I see no reason to expect anything to change.

    I don’t care how one spins it, I’d argue that one of the season’s biggest disappoints is the play/production of this man. In many games he appears to be trying hard, but ultimately when you’re making $7,500,000 a season because of your offense, you simply gotta produce and he save for 3 games, he hasn’t.

    So much talk about what’s wrong (injuries, linemates, stepped up defensive play, lost confidence), but it’s tough nailing it down. I do stand by belief that his confidence isn’t where he should be – all too often he appears to have a chance to shoot but doesn’t electing instead, to try to find a better opportunity and of course, proceeds to get into an even worse position. Last year, pucks left his stick much more quickly. That, IMO, is confidence (or a lack thereof).

    But an entire season of no confidence? Wow….maybe, especially if he’s never faced this before.

  108. Minor change, don’t over think it. He is trying to match their physicality, that’s his logic. Expect it to be a revolving door the rest of the way. That includes EC, Avery and MZA, barring injuries. Scratching Gilroy would’ve been out of logic after the last game.

    And, please, Don’t Feed The Troll. He has no real desire to discuss anything.

  109. Stranger Nation on

    jpg – don’t worry Torts has Aves on a very short leash for the 6 mins he will play.

    Torts did not have to bury MZA like that – he could have ‘honestly’ said we wanted to get more goal scoring in the game so they bring in Aves (HAHAHAHA) I like Aves – he has a roll to play, skate hard, make the cross ice break out pass, cycle down low, smack the Goalie a couple times ‘by accident’.

    He usually gets in trouble thinking too much along the side boards and not getting the puck out or leaving the weak side too soon for a break out.

    Jeez, are we really talking about him again!

    EZ has one more Invisible Man game until he is pulled for good – especially with Wolly playing hard.

  110. Wicky (trying to go as fast as ILB on this thing) on

    Morning ILB and all??

    I like the message sending fights at the end of games!!

    LGR!!!

  111. ilb – I couldn’t agree more. It’s a matter of physicality. The Hobbit Wizard tried to wrestle someone but other than that he is very small for the matchup here. Avery will try to hit and I still think if Avery can get Ovie to drop the gloves – he will be my MVP of the series. These guys will swap around and even Eminger and Gilroy will swap if Gilroy doesn’t have another GREAT game.

    Dress 7 D Men.

  112. Stranger Nation on

    Jim – I wish EZ could be a productive #4 center – the guy is king of the floaters. His only positive contribution the other night was hurting the Caps’ players elbow who slammed him into the boards…

  113. Stranger Nation on

    Gabby needs a #1 to create space for him – he is not carry and create guy but a ‘space’ guy who finds pockets in the D and has a quick release when not covered. Absent the #1 carrying and creating center, he is neutralized. To his credit, I think he has played harder the last 2 weeks. Is that as hard as he can play, hell no – especially on the back check.

  114. Stranger – I actually think that Avery can create space for Gaborik – it’s almost a set play type idea….Avery goes low and does his behind the net thing for 7 minutes and two guys drop down to him because they are annoyed and want the puck – Avery spring the puck up the boards to Gaborik who has plenty of space now. Crash net – hard shot – score

  115. game reviews right away would be sweet for the contingent of us that never sleep, i.e., Voice of reason, olga, eddie cubed and meself..lol

    that guy clifford on the Kings reminds me of Voros in terms of fighting skills. He throws em better than Voros, but he sure takes a beaten…also suffered recent KO. Go search his fights and you see what I mean.

    LGR!!!

    I loved the Kevin Lowe comments that Carp wrote about the other day. I think because of the internet every single thing is now short term or nothing. I may be a bit olde-fashioned (sic), but I still favour (sic) having patience and letting things happen with as little panic as possible. Not easy these days, but something to strive for, and often you can’t take advantage of short term panic.

  116. if was a Rangers coach, i would sit Zuc down
    hook him up Clockwork Orange style
    and have him watch hours of
    game footage of
    Theo Fleury and Martin St. Louis

  117. bybytorts

    There have been any number of posters (including Carp) who have set out several reasons why Torts has done a good job (which doesn’t necessarily equate to wanting the man’s babies or inducting him into the Hall of Fame yesterday, despite your apparent insistence to the contrary).

    Yet you not only disagree (fine) but appear exasperated that nobody can offer any reasons to counter those of you and the extremely eloquent VinceA, which I don’t understand.

    I won’t rehash those points again, but I’ll say again that I wasn’t impressed with the job Torts did last year, but still wasn’t close to wanting him fired. So any argument that he deserves to be canned this year is way beyond my limited comprehension.

    To turn your question around and to aid said comprehension, WHY do the Torts haters want him gone, other than the following (dubious) points raised so far?

    – He hates Avery and thus has ruined the team
    – He’s an “ahole”
    – He hates Avery and thus has ruined the team
    – He tries to get players to play the way he wants
    – He doesn’t leave lines the same, despite having such great offensive talent with unmatched chemistry
    – He didn’t lead the team to the President’s Trophy as expected
    – He hates Avery and yadda yadda…

  118. I really can’t wait to see a video of Torts and Larry Brooks going at it at the presser this morning. I CAN’T WAIT!

  119. as far as Avery thinking too much along the boards.
    heck
    when they’re not “on” their game
    they ALL do that.

    confidence or tiredness could be some reasons
    but that’s when i really start losing my mind
    while watching the game.

    they NEED to keep moving and move the puck QUICKLY!!
    while i wasn’t happy that we didn’t score (again) on pp
    the (second?) one did look better due to better movement
    (i think Carp may have mentioned that)
    hope it continues with full release (a puck in the net)

  120. jpg – you think hobbit wizard would play better in all white? with suspenders? with fake eyelashes? Porcelain Genital Statue? I like all of these ideas…

  121. You guys have anything new from me from the Rangers Camp in Washington?????

    Everybody fit to play ??? Any kind of line changes anything extraordinary ????
    Anyone under the weather, teeth problems or anyone with stomach trouble ????:)

    We need someone to sit on the table with Torts to report direct from the medicine room :)

  122. Doodie Machetto on

    “Who’d win in a wrestling match, [Avery] or God?”
    “[Avery].”
    ::buzzer sound::
    “God.”
    “Wrong [Hartnell]head. Trick Question. [Avery] IS God.”

  123. Stranger Nation on

    I think Aves 6 minutes of playing time may be the most analyzed Fourth line minutes in the history of Rangers’ hockey.

    I want the Rangers to win – If Aves plays and they win, great. If he does not and they win, great. I just feel MZA is not ready for this stage at this point in his development.

    EZ better show up tonite! If not, off to the glue factory!!!

    Worried about Em and McCabe on same pairing given slow foot speed of both.

  124. Tony
    i’m not saying i’m happy Avery is back.
    could use his speed and he is playoff vet.

    just been wondering about Zuc, overall
    and hoping
    that Aves doesn’t go “over the line”
    and get penalized by ref system that
    doesn’t like him and ends up not helping
    us out in a way that’s needed.
    heck
    if that’s the case, you or i could just sit on the bench
    for much of the second and third period.

  125. LW-

    The reasons that people keep listing for liking tortorella as a coach are pure rhetoric, i.e., he stuck with youth!, he upscaled youth to play key minutes!, the team is going in the right direction!, etc., He stuck with youth because that’s all he was given, and he loves youth because they will play the way he tells them to.

    Maybe we have a different view of coaching, but to me, a great coach assesses what he has, finds the talents and potentials of what he has, then implements a plan to effectuate and carry out that plan and also take advantage of every single talent.

    This clown, does not do that.

    As VinceA said, its his way and only his way.

    he doesn’t assess talent, he wants everyone to play a certain way, even if THAT ISNT THE BEST USE OF THEIR TALENT.

    Another sign of a bad coach, to me, is playing favorites and doghousing players you PERSONALLY dislike. yeah, he hates Avery, and obviously i like him, but his hatred for Avery should not get in the way of using him the best way he can. he is taking up over 4 mil in cap space — make some use of him, figure it out, dont just bench him and get NOTHING out of it because you dont like him. that just infantile behavior.

    He also plays favorites, and while i like prospal and fedotenko, he only likes them because they played for him. and you can guarantee he will go and get deaf dumb and blind Sather to spend big bucks on Brad richards this summer, because he likes him, not because hes the best player they can get for alot of money.

    so tell me, what has he done?

    did he figure out a way to improve the power play? did he figure out a way to increase scoring? has he gotten the most he can out of the players on his roster? no, no, no.

    He cant even figure out line combinations as he changes them EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. how is that good coaching? i dont get it.

    Listen, i get it, this team structured as is is not his fault. but that doesnt mean i have to drink the tortorella koolaid

    Go Rangers tonight!!

  126. jpg, I agree with Avery’s playoff experience. I think he brings more of a physical game.
    I love MZA, & hope he’s a Ranger for a long time. But he’s not a physical presence. I was surprised when he got that boarding penalty.

  127. so what happened with Brooks and Tors now?

    TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
    Rites of spring: Torts and @NYP_Brooksie exchanging barbs today.
    and
    TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
    I think @NYP_Brooksie should invoice TV networks for his unscheduled appearances. Only fair.

  128. Stranger Nation April 15th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    I think Aves 6 minutes of playing time may be the most analyzed Fourth line minutes in the history of Rangers’ hockey.

    *********************************

    Brilliant!

  129. Tony
    actually i was much more surprised that it was called
    boarding. barely showed any replays but it looked
    originally as if caps guy was hit from side
    and he wasn’t even facing the boards.
    a hit in the back, yes
    but that’s not a penalty.

  130. I am sorry to say this but I once in a while I am flipping around through the websites of the NHL teams and the Bruins par exemple have someone who is following the team any time they are on a roadtrip ..(Bish or Bishop ???? I think??) who is bloggin´what is going on with the team all the time.. But he is a member I think from the Bruins organization as far as I know..

    I dont want to criticize anyone here from the media but if you are a real fan you simply would like to know what is going on all the time to hear quotes or get observation from the team hotel…

    What do you guys think about that ??? Wouldn´t that be a fantastic service ??? What is about Jim Cerny writing for the Rangers website ????

  131. Doodie Machetto on

    God I hate Brooks. So unprofessional. Always needs to become the story instead of reporting it.

  132. Mister Delaware (who migrated north to Boston) on

    I wouldn’t have minded moving Gilroy to a wing in order to get Eminger back in the lineup. We got pounded last game.

  133. Let’s Do Rangers!!!!

    Hey Doodie – is your firm hiring? My boss just asked me to clean the microwave. I have applied to 3 jobs in ten minutes. Boneheads, LLC!? Noah?

  134. Working 3-11 so I’ll miss everything but I really hope they pull this 1-1 before taking it back to MSG for 2 games. Giddy up!

  135. NYR_Fan, I’m taking 5. I’m pretty sure he gets at least one, plus if he starts a fight…

  136. Rhode Island Ranger on

    Hope the Rangers play with more edge and snarl in front of both nets tonight.

    I assume most of us saw the Sabres bashing the Filthy types on Miller’s doorstep without hesitation or soul searching. If the Rangers had played with the same primal fury in front of Hank in Game 1, he would have joined Miller and Price in stealing the opener as an underdog. He belongs in their elite company… maybe even at the head of it.

    Any heightened emotion, chaos, and, yes, trading of penalties with the Caps tonight is in the Rangers’ interest. Washington is a better team. But the Rangers are very good on the PK. They should use that advantage to push the envelope physically. Get personal with Green, Semin, Backstrom and Ovie. Drag them to the box as often as possible. If this disruption requires more PKs, so be it. Don’t just react to the Caps. Dictate a different kind of game to them.

  137. supposedly there’s a transcript of today’s
    Torts vs. Brooks Battle

    wonder why?
    unless Larry hassled Torts for not playing
    Avery in game one.

  138. LW- that dinner I promised I’d take you out for, next time you’re in NY? Forget it! :-)

  139. Haha I said “Let’s DO Rangers” – what is wrong with me? Let’s GO Rangers

  140. I have read now Brooks´story and cant find anything negativ about it as Stranger writes other that he tent to write too long sentences but I know some others who are doing the same including me :)

  141. Stranger Nation on

    RI Ranger – agree the refs have officially adopted the PO hockey rule book save for the MZA penalty call which was an absolute travesty. Watching the other games last night was amazing, some crazy hitting going on. The Kings/Sharks game was full tilt.

    I have a sinking feeling we are playing against the Caps, the Refs (NHL) as the league wants Ovi in now that Cindy is out – puleeze.

  142. Stranger Nation on

    Matthias – check out side of web page for AGross and Brooksies tweets about Rangers. As far as ’embedded’ reporter – not sure MSG would go for it.

  143. Rhode Island Ranger on

    To those inclined towards counting penalties tonight, whether for individuals or the team, as some sort of ultimate measure of effective play:

    The final score is what matters. If the Rangers need to play more aggressively than the Caps in order to win, they’re going to take more penalties.

    I hope Torts finally understands this timeless hockey mathematics. Conn Smythe and Fred Shero did.

  144. This is the transcript of Torts/Brooks from TSN reporter covering the series. The video will supposedly be up on TSN.ca soon.

    http://tl.gd/9s7bb8

    Carp – I prefer the new posts in the morning, so we can all react to your reactions after a night of sleep. :)

  145. LinCalPrustBoylahan24 on

    hey guys! Just counting down the minutes until I get outta work and get ready for the game.
    Not enough tome to catch up with your posts right now, just wanted to say hi and
    Let’s Go Rangers!!!

  146. I’m not on the train anymore, so I think a succinct summary would be:

    I disagree with and/or don’t understand almost everything you wrote, bybytorts.

  147. Carp, by the way, I have no preference one way or the other as far when you post your review. I will always enjoy reading it, no matter when it goes up. But since most my Bonehead friends prefer it in the morning, let’s keep it the morning…it’s a nice thing to look forward to first thing when I wake up in the morning…

  148. NYR – I like the morning only for the fresh thread. I love having a fresh thread and not having to catch up for 3 hours with what people have been saying. Also, our emotions change overnight so we are more rational in the morning.

  149. “Maybe we have a different view of coaching, but to me, a great coach assesses what he has, finds the talents and potentials of what he has, then implements a plan to effectuate and carry out that plan and also take advantage of every single talent.”

    Is Torts holding back any 50 goal scorers on the team? Look at the Rangers roster compared to other playoff teams, the lack of top end and fully developed talent is glaring. And their only elite talent player is having a terrible year. Cally, Dubi and Staal have all been allowed to grow with getting major minutes. Stepan, Anisimov, Sauer and McD are not getting handled with kid gloves either.

    “Another sign of a bad coach, to me, is playing favorites and doghousing players you PERSONALLY dislike. yeah, he hates Avery, and obviously i like him, but his hatred for Avery should not get in the way of using him the best way he can. he is taking up over 4 mil in cap space— make some use of him, figure it out, dont just bench him and get NOTHING out of it because you dont like him. that just infantile behavior.”

    Please, this is blatant speculation that Torts doesn’t like the guy. He dressed him for 76 games this year. He started getting 4th line minutes because he deserves 4th line minutes. Out of the forwards that dressed for at least 50 games this year he scored the least amount of goals. He only outscored Boogaard by 2.

    “He also plays favorites, and while i like prospal and fedotenko, he only likes them because they played for him. and you can guarantee he will go and get deaf dumb and blind Sather to spend big bucks on Brad richards this summer, because he likes him, not because hes the best player they can get for alot of money.”

    What other UFAs should they pursue? I’m not thrilled with the idea of throwing another mega contract either, but who else should they get? And in order to even throw an offer to Richards they have to get Drury off the books, which I think most people here would agree is a smart move.

    “did he figure out a way to improve the power play? did he figure out a way to increase scoring? has he gotten the most he can out of the players on his roster? no, no, no.”

    Rangers scored 11 more and let up 20 fewer goals than last year. And that’s with Gaborik’s scoring dropping off by 20 along with him and Callahan missing a combined 40 games. That is increasing the productivity as a team.

    “He cant even figure out line combinations as he changes them EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. how is that good coaching? i dont get it.”

    Every single coach does this in the league and every single fanbase complains about it. Watch the Caps tonight, unless they’re up big (and particularly if they’re down by a few) you will see their lines get flipped.

  150. Stranger Nation on

    Hilarious interplay with Torts and Brooksie – thougth they were going to riff into who is on first, the pitcher’s tomorrow and why is in left field?

    Hey Moe!! Knyuck Knyuck!

  151. Quotes from Torts on Zuke, courtesy Dave Lozo (NHL.com):

    “Whether he can handle the size and overall consistency of playoff hockey, I’m not sure,” Tortorella said. “It’s been a long year for him, as far as up and down, learning a new game in North America, the smaller rink, playing in the minors where everybody is chasing you around. Through some experience, and he did get a little bit the other night ? again, we don’t know. It’s still an open book with him as far as where he sits as a National Hockey League player.”

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=559811

  152. Hey guys, Jesse Spector should have a video up soon… see his tweet below.

    jessespector Jesse Spector
    Going to play some Angry Birds while I wait for Angry Torts video to finish uploading… about 20 more minutes…

  153. Awwwwww sheeeeeeet……….I am gracing everyone with my presence as a sign of good luck for tonights game. LGR!

  154. LMAO! Torts cracks me up. And Brooks’ questions made no sense anyway. How can your backs be against a wall after one byfuglien game?

  155. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    Brooks is such an byfuglien d.b. I mean really. Game 2..”do you think your backs are against the wall?”

    A series has not started until someone wins a road game (loses a home game) regardless of what Carp posted about no home ice advantage.

    Carp is in the fraternity so he won’t agree (but I am in Tort’s frat so I will !)

  156. The only sport event I am interested today is the Game tonight …I dont care about soccer anymore these days as my favourite team has a complet disaster season and the Classico will be played tomorrow night…Tennis is not exciting as I travel to Fedcup in Stuttgart tomorrow and thats the moment the competition starts..nothing tonight

    I am not sure how to use the time before the game at 1.30, sleep beforehand or staying awake and sleep afterwards as you usally cant sleep after such a game especially if it goes into overtime…..

  157. Matthias, LMAO at your post, too :) Boy, this is gonna be a long afternoon I can tell

  158. Stranger Nation on

    Until you lose the 3rd game of a series – your backs are not against the wall – period.

  159. I Love that WFAN is talking about how BAD the Mets are rather than the Rangers Playoff game tonight!

  160. they have many months to talk about how bad the Mets are. They’re just getting warmed up.

  161. Sadly – it’s true……….

    This should be the Rangers hour! Come on NYC – Support the heroes!

  162. Manny, even a half filled Citi Field seats more people than the Rangers.

    But I did hear a LGR chant at the game on Monday.

  163. torts and brooks again. wow these 2 just cant stay friends for too long.

    must win tonight.

    lets go drop the puck. the nerves are too much for me

  164. At the Mets game!? That’s awesome!

    I just get sad – no one is walking around in Rangers gear unless there is a Ranger game (and only because I work right near the Garden).

    I just want people to love these dudes.

  165. LOL…that transcript is hilarious. Tortorella can be so arrogant – part of coaching in a big city like NY is having to deal with the media, even the unscrupulous media, of which I think LB is, given his rumour mongering style.

    And I gotta give credit to LB – he stands up to Tortorella where, I’m sure, most media types would shuttup and keep their tails between their legs.

  166. Blogmama, what do you think about watching a good movie kind of “WAR AND PEACE” with Henry Fonda, Mel Ferrer, Audrey Hepburn, man I love it, Herbert Lom and Anita Ekberg..

    ..thats a kind of real world like bybytorts against the rest of the boneheads :)

  167. Yeah, I think it was after Tulowitzki went yard.

    Usually you get a mixed response from the crowd because of the amount of Islanders fans that are Mets fans. No one seemed to care, the Mets suck the atmosphere out of everyone.

  168. LB is a tool – guy knows nothing about hockey. His rants at shot blocking make me want to puke.

  169. LMAO! If Brooks ever gets the Elmer Ferguson Memorial Award, (which will be years after Carp gets one) , Torts should make the introduction speech.

  170. The Torts-Brooksie exhange, courtesy tsn’s@saraorlesky, who is covering the series for us:

    Brooks: do you think going in to this game that your backs are against the wall?

    Torts: do I think our backs are against the wall?this is a series

    Brooks: that’s what I’m asking. Are your backs against the wall right now?

    Torts: I never think our backs are against the walls. In a series…

    Brooks interjects: in a series or anytime?

    Torts: anytime.

    Brooks: so u didn’t think your backs were against the wall saturday?

    Torts: Saturday?

    Brooks: against NJ?

    Torts: you mean in the regular season

    Brooks: that’s what I’m asking. You said you never think your backs are against the wall. Are you just talking about playoffs or anytime?

    T: well we’re in playoffs right now. You’re asking me questions to try and box me in to language.

    B: no I’m not

    T; yes you do

    B: No I’m not. I’m asking you do u think your backs are against the wall, you said ‘I never think backs are against the wall’. I said ‘in regular season or playoffs’. So you’re only talking about playoffs.

    T: I’m talking about a series of playoffs. Why are we even going back to regular season. Cause its logistics with you. You try to use my words…

    B: no you talked about the regular season just now

    T: you try to use my words brooksie

    You try to use my words and box me in to a corner all the time

    B: I asked u a question and I’m just trying to get an answer

    T: can I get another question. I went in here in a pretty good mood today too

    B: so did I

    T: well you obviously byfuglien’ed that up didn’t you?

    B: no you did

  171. LW? You’re on the fire Torts team too!?

    Torts should not be fired for two reasons:

    1. He is a great coach (which was proven when he won a stanley cup with that crew);
    2. There are no better option available.

  172. LW,

    Because no other candidate has submitted a hand written letter as to why they think they should be the coach?

  173. Torts is now my hero. That exchange is great. Let’s find Brooks and slash his tires. What a jerk.

  174. Why shouldn’t Torts be fired? Why should he? What’s he done wrong. I think he has gotten a ton out of what little he has. So he is a bit garrish at times and goes about things in a different matter. He also knows what it takes to win hockey games. And a Stanley Cup for that matter. Fire Torts? Sounds like someone that reads all the BS articles Larry Brooks writes…. that guy is a total tool that knows nothing about hockey. Zip zap zippo has never laced them up in his life. And to be honest – i have no idea if that is actually true… but from the content of his cr@p articles who needs proof!

  175. Joekuh - Can I Get Another Question? on

    Orr I literally LOL’d after reading that..for that reason alone I’d keep Torts around!

  176. Somebody just called the WFAN and asked Mike to do a live feed from the Garden because there is “nothing better than playoff hockey.”

  177. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    Brooks is such a carcillohead….really. He is the ultimate buzzkill.

    Lets Go Rangers….around 5 hours to BS until the game. Going out to dinner tonight, I told my wife any place that has TVs is a good choice.

  178. I agree Brooks is a always trying to pick fights with Torts… its so obvious he hates him it is disgusting. Brooks should just do his job and report on the team – not try and center his articles about our beloved NEW YORK RANGERS with his personal vandeta against Torts. Its shamefull that he does it and i think he should be reprimanded. Sorry my spelling is terrible!

  179. In the words of one of my favorite rappers Cormega….”With my back against the wall I make the building shake.”

  180. who the heck is bybytorts?

    That was just unprofessional behavior on Brooks’ part. Stupid questions with convoluted follow-up, made no sense and he did antagonize Torts. Ptooey

  181. CapeBretonRangerFan on

    What an ignorant SOB that Brooks carcillo filled piece of Assen is! Two times he interrupted Torts…who does he think he is?

  182. Good call Jeff – I think he might actually do it! He might get an instigator if he goes out there with a water bottle!

  183. Torts: Can I get another question?

    Same reporter from 4/11: Can you explain playing “The right way”?

    Boneheads fill in the next line.

    Torts: _______.

  184. broadway roe

    YOu cannot escape it…all you can do is hope that the dynamic that Cally brought to the game, can be absorbed by one of his erstwhile linemates, or even an unexpected source. It is virtually impossible to recreate the team and it’s own self image along with the determination that he brought. He simply refused to be beaten. It was a simple as that. And that’s a very difficult ingredient to replace. But in order to beat this club on their home ice that is exactly what will be expected of each and every one of them.

    They’ve got to win this series for Cally.He deserves no less. His is the name that should be on everyone’s mind when the puck is dropped. And never let up! Relentless as fate and unpredictable
    as a rogue wave. They must deal destruction tonight..nothing less.

  185. Haha! Yeah, I read that, Orr…he’ll get a taste of the real deal tonight…

    and hopefully Dublowsky puts the puck in the net….

  186. What does Brooks do when the hockey season ends? Anybody know?

    ***

    He waits at the bus stop.

  187. Dubinsky is up and down. He was DOWN on Wednesday night so he will pick it up tonight. Expect a goal from him.

  188. What does Brooks do when the hockey season ends? Anybody know?
    ***
    He waits at the bus stop.

    ****

    That’s right NYR – because we slashed his tires!

  189. Thanks BANJ and CT Blueshirt !!! Now I know what you mean Doodie…:)

    Okay maybe you can ask this question once and Torts replied to it but Brooks asked over and over ..he seems to be baffled mixing up regular season and playoffs and it seems that someone other has wrote his story in the papers today !!! Is this possible ????
    Because that analysis wasn´t bad at all !!!!

  190. Stupid idea to provoke someone…there is no need to do it…

    absolutely no need but today I read a story about a journalist following the sacked coach of my favourite team for almost a week to get an interview waiting in front of his house for hours and even ringing on the door three times the day….

    Well, sorry Carp, but some media member are a little bit out of the world :)

  191. Or Carp do you have a different opinion ? and what do yu think about Brooks trying to provoke Torts ?:)

  192. Yea! Take him NYR

    WFAN is having a hockey discussion beginning NOW with hockey people.

  193. Matthias, sometimes as a reporter you have to push people and take a stand, but this case was not one of those times.

  194. Hi all!! LGR!
    Matthias: did you get the tickets for the games in Stockholm?
    I usually take a pregame nap and deff need one tonight.

  195. Yeah, Marji, I did…fran is the man! (and i don’t man as in Manny :)

    Hey Krisy!!!

    I wish I’d get a work call back so I can go out and eat. I’m starving!

  196. Wow, can someone deliver what Fran said to our boys?

    Another peeing contest between LB and Torts? Go to love playoff hockey!

  197. Stranger Nation on

    Tennessee – Guinness = Goodness.

    Any relation to Tennessee Jed? Don’t start Eddie!!!

  198. You know what’s annoying about Brooks’ comment to Torts? Where has Brooks been all season? Has he be paying attention or just writing columns? Brooks has to know that Torts has a young group of guys and Torts has spent all season long trying to keep the pressure off them. He has encouraged them to stay loose, play hard every night and let the chips fall where they may. Brooks has to know that Torts is NEVER (this season) going to say they have their backs against the wall. And to ask that question is being deliberately provocative.

    So there!

  199. Baby won’t you carry meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…..a’back to Tennesseeeeeeeeeeee…(sorry I had to get in on this)

  200. Thanks Krisy, I could have bought those very easy but I am not allowed to travel because of my working colleague a female:)…The game will be played near the holiday season for school children..well thats how life goes (:

    But my original plan was to return to NY for the first time since 2003 to watch a game at the Garden exactly the same what you did last week…

    Truth to be told I am just waiting that my father is getting better with his health moving out of his bed by his own, maybe make a trip overseas sometime next season maybe November or February;March 2012

  201. That’s a very fair synopsis, Marji. Brooks was trying to ruffle feathers and bait Torts into saying something he didn’t mean…

  202. Rhode Island Ranger on

    Carp et al:

    Larry Brooks’ question was cliche, premature and just plain boring. But Torts (who has done this for a living for some years now) should have answered it quickly and definitively before moving on: “No Larry, our backs are not against the wall after one game. Dismissive chuckle.”

    We can only guess at Torts’ chemistry with the team as a whole and with the players (and GM) as individuals. Would love more on the coach/player dynamic as far as you can tell, Carp. But, given all his other serious professional challenges, his daily presser should be easy. Where’s the relaxed, confident, self-possessed, funny teacher and leader of men.

    Why do questions from the press, silly or substantial, set him off so easily? Why can moron hecklers goad him into a playoff suspension? To me this signals a real personality defect. How serious we can’t tell.

    I appreciate Torts’ work with this young, limited group. But I still wonder about his people skills… since he’s in the people business and not the robot industry.

  203. LOL! Did anyone hear Noy-Vari call Dublowsky the “new Sean Avery”

    Nope. The NYPost said it, but from what I read, Neuvirth didn’t.

  204. Blogmama Adorer on

    The Rangers have Mama’s man Aves going tonight. If the Rangers just had Mama going for them, they’d win easily. The opponents would be so in awe of her beauty that she’d prance down the ice and put the puck past the ‘blinded-by-beauty’ goalie and then “Ptooey” on the goalie.

  205. “I’m just gonna go and find a cash machine…..”

    (Thanks for having my back CT)

  206. Joekuh - Can I Get Another Question? Ptooey! on

    LOL @ ptooey on the goalie. This game needs to start already Dubinsked-it!

  207. Its cool, I knew I butchered the quote but was laughing over a beer at my desk (pregame has begun)…

    LETS GO RANGERS

    Dru will score a big one this series, is it tonight?

    Step will score a big one this series, is it tonight?

    Hank will steal one…. willing to bet it’s tonight!

  208. bull dog line on

    now all the Avery comments can change from Avery should be in the line up to.
    Avery should play on the top line. Avery should play the power play. that offsides was not Avery’s fault. great pass by Avery, someone should have been there. torts hates Avery, he should play more. on anybody else that is not a penalty. great shift by Avery, he just shot it wide.

  209. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    R I Ranger…your logic is completely flawed…if you read the transcript you would see that the first answer or two or three did attempt to dignify a completely idiotic question, but then Brooks as always continued in a provocative and antagonistic manner. You’re like the people that side with the criminals when the victims get the better of them.

  210. Listen guys….I am outta here. Let’s Go Rangers! Big win tonight would be nice.

    I will be at Warren 77 on Sunday watching the game. I will be the kid with the Rangers hat that looks like a Heritage Jersey. And big brown glasses.

    See you all there. Or some of you. Or most of you. Or none of you. YOu never know.

    LETS GO RANGERS!

  211. As a way to measure a teams consistency someone at japersrink.com did this:

    They took rolling groups of seven games (games 1-7, games 2-8, games 3-9, games 4-10, etc. taking each group as it own 7 games series and then determined how many times a team would have won 4 of those 7 games.

    Of the 76 groups of 7 consecutive games that occur in a season the Rangers would have won 50 which is tied for second in the Eastern Conf behind Pitts 52.

    They also won 4 of the last 6 game ‘series’.

    http://www.japersrink.com/2011/4/11/2102846/on-winning-four-of-seven

  212. Rhode Island Ranger on

    And This One:

    I guess we disagree on what constitutes a simple direct answer.

    But, of course, as my last comment made clear, this is a recurring issue with Torts. It’s not just bad chemistry with Brooks. There’s obviously a much bigger pattern of what seems to be Torts’ difficulty with people who aren’t under his authority.

    His chemistry with the players behind closed doors may be superb. But his frequent tantrums interacting with others makes me wonder.

    You and I wouldn’t act like he does with the people who market our business (and ultimately increase our salaries). So why does he? Passive aggressive? Egomaniacal? Bad mannered?

    If he keeps helping this team improve, I don’t care about his cosmetic flaws. But if he falters, it may be because of some unresolved psychological issue.

  213. where is the even justice? if Stoll got one game for his hit, why is Demers not suspended for his blatant elbow on Ryan Smyth? and why is that punk Abdelkader not suspended for his blatant elbow to the face of Seabrook in the final game. that should have gotten him suspended for the first round, but the Wings and Sharks are the fairhaired boys, the pets of the league office in the west, just like the pens and caps in the east

  214. bull dog line

    I’m not biting it… you should’ve been here yesterday (you can still go back and read it, though) when we sort of exhausted all of the “Avery stinks / great/ hated / misunderstood / deserves more / done more that some for this franchise” etc. topics. You’re late, my cyber friend :)

    Now…we’re just gonna sit back, take down our pants and enjoy the rest of the ride.

  215. What’s the deal with Torts and Brooks? That TSN story an the comments in the comment section are making me wonder

  216. Breaking News: Per WFAN-Steve Avery is in the line up tonight.

    The sports leader WFANnnnnn!

  217. Here is the Stoll hit on White

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRqLHYHYuA

    @ 1 minute it looks like Stoll asks White if he can still feel his legs, then pats him on the back

    Seriously though while White is vulnerable it isn’t a very violent hit nor do I think there is the malicious intent like the Erskine head shot to EC. Just my opinion.

  218. ddebened

    I went in here in a pretty good mood today…well you obviously f***ed that up didn’t you! lol :P

  219. Mister Delaware (who migrated north to Boston) on

    “You and I wouldn’t act like he does with the people who market our business (and ultimately increase our salaries).”

    Sure, but sports isn’t real life. What might have an obviously negative correlation for us might have no correlation or possibly even a positive one for them.

  220. Actually that Stoll hit looks a little worse as I watch it for the 15th time.

    LET’S GO RANGERS!!!!

  221. Lets stop playing on our heels and initiate the action tonight. I don’t want to hear Dubinsky in the locker room post game saying, ” we were on our heels.”
    Take it to this team. They have to every shift if they are going to win this series.
    Sometimes it’s just wanting it more than the other team like Drury said yesterday. If he’s the leader that people say he is, he will inspire this team to play like they want it more than the Caps and come out on top tonight.

  222. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Washington is full of Carsillyo!!"...says Greg L. on

    GO RANGERSSSSSSS!!!

    TONIGHT IS OUR NIGHT!!!!

    “Tonight is gonna be a good good night…”

  223. Blogmama Adorer on

    “In the warriors code There’s no surrender Though his body says stop His spirit cries – never!
    Deep in our soul A quiet ember Know it’s you against you It’s the paradox That drives us on It’s a battle of wills In the heat of attack It’s the passion that kills The victory is yours alone”

    LET’S GO RANGERS!!

  224. ddeb, beard is coming along nicely! I hope more people decided to enter the contest. Can’t make it too easy for me!

  225. I don’t mean to scare everyone away! I came in 6th place last time! I just really appreciate some good facial hair. There’s still 50 minutes people!

  226. Rhode Island Ranger on

    Carp:

    Alert: One of the Rangers most promising young defensemen actually believes in…. m… mm… momentum !!!

    From Gross:

    “I think it is a must win,” defenseman Mike Sauer said. “The whole point of it is not losing two in a row. You want to get a win and get good momentum for the game. The guys know it. If it’s been said, it’s something we all know. It felt like the last 20 games, there was no waiting. I don’t think the mindset has changed at all.”

    Where’s Kevin Lowe? Can we fly him in to deprogram this confused kid and steer him back to the ineluctable truth that the results from the last game or two mean precisely nothing. No boosts in confidence. No confidence fueled improvements in performance.

    Sauer is talking like a person. This will generate agitation in the cognitive circuitry of the hockey robot cult.

  227. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Washington is full of Carsillyo!!"...says Greg L. on

    Beer , hotdogs and lots pucks tonight is on the menu!!!

    RANGERS!!!

    RANGERS!!

    RANGERSS!!

    RANGERSSS!!

    RAAAAAANGERRRRRRSS!!!!

  228. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Washington is full of Carsillyo!!"...says Greg L. on

    RANGERS , RANGERSS ,RANGERSS!!!!

    GO RANGERSSSS!!!!!

  229. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Washington is full of Carsillyo!!"...says Greg L. on

    RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANGERS!!!!

    OUR TIME IS NOW!!!!

  230. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Washington is full of Carsillyo!!"...says Greg L. on

    LETS GO RANGERSSS!!!!

    SET THE TONE , COME OUT BIG BOYS!!!

  231. C3, if you’re Tony, you don’t just drop your pants, you take them off. Hey, I can’t grow a beard, but as I asked before, if I stop shaving my legs does that count? Though I would have to wear pants through June…..hmmm. maybe not…..LGR!

  232. Adorer of Blogmama on

    Mama, you’re the most beautiful woman in the world. You probably do not even have one strand of hair on your legs. :)

  233. NYR_FAN -between the song title and the “throw bottles” line I couldn’t resist

  234. jpg…..ha! wish I’d heard that. Gotta take a quick break. See you all for game…..LGR! WIN IT!!!!!!

  235. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Washington is full of Carsillyo!!"...says Greg L. on

    Momma may have to get a picture of her silky smooth legs sent to Carp , then unleash these hairy girlilla legs after a few months hahahaa. I Say the ladies have to use thier legs….Yo Carp give the ladies an extra few days to submit ( Orr probally would agree) Guy do beards , gals do legs ..beuty!!

    GO RANGERSS!!!

  236. Joekuh - Can I have the next question please? Ptooey! on

    i like the energy early. Gabby, that was a horrible giveaway. plz dont do that again. thanks.

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