We have a winner … we think

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Looks to me like DCloutier39 is our contest winner on a tiebreaker over, among others, the runnerup from our first contest, Lev_Rangers.

Anyway, we said in the rules that if it got to a shots-on-goal tiebreaker we would go with the closest, and DCloutier39 had 26 Rangers shots (they actually had 22). I counted four others who nailed the 3-2 score and had Dubinsky with the game-winner, but weren’t as close on the Rangers shots.

So … just to double-check, if anybody believes they had the score and Dubinsky and the Rangers shots closer than DCloutier39, you must notify me immediately (or sooner) at rcarpini@lohud.com.

By this afternoon I will officially declare a winner.

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You all know how the standings look, and you all know how I feel about the Bettman Bonus Point and “NHL .500.”

And while it might make no sense to some, and it proves nothing, I just want to point out that the Rangers are one of just seven teams in the Leastern race with an actual .500 record, not NHL .500 (if you count OT wins and skills competition wins as wins, you should count OT losses and skills competition losses as losses):

Flys 42-26
Caps 40-30
Bruins 38-30
Pens 40-30
Lightnings 38-31
Habs 38-31
Rangers 36-34
Bison Baby Buffalos 34-35
Carolina Whalers 31-38
Air Canada Leaves 30-39
Winnipeg-bound Thrashers 29-40
Devils 32-36

Just sayin’.

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  1. Good morning all – love the listed names of teams Carp!

    Tiki – per previous post, I was just trying to get Mama going….kinda like asking you how you feel about Jagr isn’t it?

  2. iDoodie machetto on

    Carp, I’m definitely out, but didn’t you say closest without going over? If everyone went over, shouldn’t you go to sharks shots?

  3. trigger from DC on

    We really need a 3 point system.

    3 for a win, 2 for an OT win and 1 for an OT loss.

    It’s ridiculous that OT games are worth 3 points.

  4. Was REALLY happy I stayed in to watch that game. Wolski is good in my book after that little piece of excellence… Great game for Hank, seemed to have his swagger in full swing.

    Anyone else loving that commercial where Dubi drives hard to the net and scores and the voiceover is saying theyve come too far to stop now? I dig it.

    Lets GO RANGERS!

  5. Stranger Nation on

    Easier to just get rid of awarding 1 pt for reg ties and SO

    Reg/OT Win – 2 pts.
    Tie after OT – 1 pt.
    Reg/OT Loss – 0 pts.
    (still like the 4v4 in OT)

    Records above in Carp post demonstrate it really doesn’t matter as nothing changes other than NYR would be ahead of Buffs and not tied (if I am reading it correctly)

  6. Stranger Nation on

    Curious how moving away from SO affects roster – do you keep a Wolski, EC, and even Zuc if there is not SO. Not saying they don’t add to the mix during reg time, but hard to dismiss their relative value is greatly enhanced by shootout possibility. An unintended consequence of SO is move skill on the roster during reg time

  7. Stranger Nation on

    Need 2 tomorrow against Icelanders!

    Hey Carp – what about that Pelham game – flippin travesty upstate! Any charges for robbery yet?

  8. Stranger Nation on

    Sean Avery hat trick – 1 post, 1 penalty, and a missed defensive assignment!!

  9. Buenos Dias Cabezas del Huesos!

    Great win on Saturday night / Sunday morning indeed.

  10. Good morning all! So happy I’ll finally be able to watch a game tomorrow!
    Happy 26th birthday to MickeyM!!!!!

  11. >>3 for a win, 2 for an OT win and 1 for an OT loss.
    >>It’s ridiculous that OT games are worth 3 points.

    This will not happen any time soon because the silliness we have in the table right now is exactly what Gary Bettman wants; he’s selling “parity”. It is absolutely ridiculous that some games are worth more than others. Ridiculous!!! And to make matters worse, not all wins are equal in a tiebreaker situation. WHAT? If I stop supporting hockey, this madness [not referring to March] will probably be one of the main reasons.

  12. >>Sean Avery hat trick – 1 post, 1 penalty, and a missed defensive assignment!!

    You’re still short of one offside and one shot into the protective net.

  13. Wicky (trying to go as fast as ILB on this thing) on

    Morning lib and all!

    Did I miss anything yesterday? Is this the REAL blog??

    Happy birthday Mickey, enjoy the Lou!!

  14. Doodie Machetto on

    Nevermind Carp, I reread the rules and closest without going over was in the event that people were tied on closeness.

  15. Doodie Machetto on

    And one blog member complaining about his lack of ice time, and one blog member arguing with that first blog member.

  16. True Blue Mike on

    I said 3-2 Rangers and put Dubinsky for game winner, only to change it last second to callahan because he is on my fantasy team… Sad.

  17. Take away the shootouts, and the Rangers are 28-32-10……

    Which is a piece of crap record that should not be in the playoffs….lets not get excited about shootout wins folks…

  18. Doodie, thanks for attempting to do my work for me … hah. actually, the closest-without-going-over thing was in the event of a tie on the last tiebreaker only.

    Atta boy, Tony!

    Where the clutterbuck is everybody?

  19. Where the clutterbuck is everybody?

    ————–

    i guess people don’t have anything to say about hockey today… :)

  20. >>Take away the shootouts, and the Rangers are 28-32-10……

    The point is, a win should count as a win, no matter how it was obtained. If the NHL now deems that a shootout win carries less weight, then perhaps it ought not award the full two points for one.

  21. Doodie Machetto on

    CCCP, even though that sketch was really stupid, I laughed really hard at her under arm sweat.

  22. Doodie Machetto on

    Can someone calculate what the standings would be if they switched to a 3 point system? 3 for regular wins, 2 for OT/SO win, 1 for OT/SO loss?

  23. Doodie Machetto on

    Yes Gerry. Although, even without the games in hand, they have the first tiebreaker: most wins exclusive of those earned in the shootout.

  24. What’s up ‘heads?

    Congrats to Cloutier39! Ticket donor = The man

    Sid the Skid skated today. Blech.

    Re: Larry Brooks’ article…I am a die hard Rangers fan and have been since I was crawling as a toddler. I happen to wear a suit to work everyday and sometimes I go to MSG straight from work. I make enough money to buy tickets at MSG to see the NYR now and will next season too. Does that make me a corporate hack fan who doesn;t bleed blue? Please Larry… The place is a dump and something needs to be done. This is NYC and NYR need a new place to play. The problem is that this “transformation” will cost too much money and probably won’t be worth it…the ice will continue to be terrible and the Garden will likely have the same atmosphere it does now…

    A new building makes more sense and would cost ticketholders less $ in the long run. That is what fans should be made about!

    LMAO @ Blast From The Bouche

  25. Stranger Nation on

    The family friendly Garden started over 20 yrs ago. This provided a safer environment for the ‘kids’ and more fans of opponents unafraid to wear their sweaters. The smoke was cleared, the lights were turned up, and the Red jackets were under new marching orders of getting rid of the ‘bad’ element.

    Even back in the day, the chants of Red Seats “stink” would cascade down from Blue Heaven. Best seats were always taken by the big bucks. The big difference is the cost of 300 (greens) and 200 (yellows). These have shot up so the cost of attending the games became too high for most, save for the suits or suburbanites.

    Home Ice advantage requires a good team – look at teams 7 – 12 in the Leastern Conf and only the Canes have a better than average home record. Less travel in East also may make intra-conf games less advantageous. Be interesting to look at W/L home records of inter-conference games requiring more travel.

  26. Stranger, LOL at most of your post ( “Even back in the day, the chants of Red Seats “stink” would cascade down from Blue Heaven.”

    But I take one exception…..I’m a “suburbanite” and I still can’t afford decent green or yellow without a rare exception (bonehead hosting) or good deal (the rare, non-greedy seller)

    I also think I’m gonna need a system to figure out this talked about point system….wtb? I miss the simple good old days. Sometimes you win, sometimes to lose, sometimes you tie, and it doesn’t matter if it rains…….

  27. Doodie Machetto on

    the Yotes will go to Winnipeg, not the Thrashers. The Thrashers will go to either Quebec or Kansas City.

  28. I will say, I walked in a few minutes late to the Philly game last weekend and from the concourse it was quiet as a church in the arena. As we approached I kept waiting for the din and it never came – and in my head I was thinking “I guess they must be down 2-0 or somehitng this soon in!” and I was stunned to see they were leading 1-0 and up in shots 5-1. To me, a game like that, playing Philly at home and taking them apart 7-0, Dubinsky pummeling Richards, that’s a game that the place should be going absolutely bananas the entire time. I don’t know if it’s cause it was an afternoon gig or what. But even the blues were quiet and not hopping. It was pretty lame.

  29. NYR, in my mind, there’s a difference between those who can afford the good tix and actually go to games and care about the team, and those who buy them, but don’t go, sell them off, give them away as gifts or rewards or to famous people for the playoffs etc :)

    Now, to be an admitted hypocrite, I’m glad those tix are made available in our modern interweb era so people like me can go without being a season holder or having to know someone who is. But the mood in the Garden has changed, and that’s just a fact…yes, some of it’s for the better (see Stranger) but some of it’s also not.

    I’ll give the blue seaters’ this: I don’t like the seats themselves, and don’t often like the crowd up there (boneheads excluded of course)…but they have remained the last “voice” of the old-school true fan, and that I do like.

    Heck, nobody even yells “charge” anymore (though I do).

  30. Peter, well you threw the last piece of my theory out the window :) sigh.

    When I think Kansas City, I think hockey!!! burp.

  31. After the big win Saturday night I have a nervous feeling that tomorrow night could be a trap game against the Icelanders, I hope not but the garden always seems dead. What do you think about that Enzo? Charlie Sheen, you there?

  32. MSG is the same story as Yankee stadium, with the crazies in the bleachers, the suits leaving empty “legends” seats at field level, etc. And the Creatures also have their “box seats suck” chant.

    It’s how it is with everything in NY. It’s great that things can be clean, fancy, and new, but then it drives out the working man and forces you to pay $2.50 for just a slice of pizza, nevermind something good, or any form of entertainment.

  33. But let’s not forget supply and demand either – If MSG, Yankee Stadium, Broadway shows, fancy restaurants, etc. weren’t all sold out all the time (or close to it), prices would come down. But people are willing to pay it.

  34. Charlie Sheen on

    Enzo how can an islander game be a trap? Its def gonna be a tough game cuz I think they have the best or 2nd best record IN HOCKEY since the all star break. Having said that, last week I said we just have to play .500 to get in, Carolina, Toronto, Buffalo all STINK. difference between this year and last….. we are the chased, not the chasing. P.S. can someone please reaplace the stantions with spikes and ram Pierre Maguires head into them

  35. Charlie, just nervous about those Icelanders……..Yikes, poor Pierre McGuire, how bout Milbury?

  36. Doodie Machetto on

    The wife is going to be working late tonight, which means I get Sharks-Hawks and some nice, delicious unhealthy food to eat while I watch it.

  37. Thanks for your effort in running the contest, Carp.
    Congrats to Cloutier on winning it.
    Happy Birthday to our very special MickeyM.
    Blueblood – Oops. My bad. Let me see if I can do it too. I think Mama does not like Sean Avery.
    Catch youse later :)

  38. I’m reading Grapes of Wrath… written in 1939. What about this paragraph? “The signs on cards, picked out with shining mica: Pies Like Mother Used to Make. Credit Makes Enemies, Let’s Be Friends. Ladies May Smoke But Be Careful Where You Lay your Butts. Eat Here and Keep Your Wife For a Pet. IITYWYBAD?”

    Steinbeck was texting before the Boneheads were born!

    No cheating now… anybody know what IITYWYBAD stands for?

  39. Milbury hitting his head against anything won’t do any more inside damage….

    SCX- you can only get a napkin for $2.50 at MSG.

  40. Oops, thanks to the ticket donation bonehead.
    lol ILB @ Milbury
    Good luck today Mama, you know Im with you 100%

  41. Charlie Sheen on

    id rather listen to styrofoam squeeking than chico, maguire, milbury, jones, melrose, etc. In what context are these idiots qualified to be on nhl telecasts. you could ram all their heads into spikes and there would be much rejoicing in the enzo household

  42. Marji, haven’t read that since 1939 (lol) but do love this line: Ladies May Smoke But Be Careful Where You Lay your Butts.

    words to live by I say.

    as for IITYWYBAD…isn’t it, If I tank You Winnipeg, Bad Assen Deal?

    Tiki, nice try, but nobody ain’t buying that!!

  43. Oh. Duh. (for me) That’s the translation, Doodie. I thought you were giving the answer.

  44. Doodie, LMAO……(sorry, Marji, I cheated…and should have remembered that. Dang!)

    Tiki, thanks, but day turned into a bust. Tomorrow is another one, however, as Scarlett says.

  45. Margi

    Keep reading…it doesn’t matter what you read, whether it is classroom studying, or escapist novels, it will keep your mind sharp and your vocabulary broadened. And if your friends all turn against you – you will always find a friend in an author. (lol).

    I just finished reading a book the other day, titled, “And The Walls Came Tumbling Down.Author…Jackl Fishman. It is a true story that reads like an adventure novel,And has a cast of characters that no Hollywood producer would ever have the wit to assemble.

    It deals with the days just prior to the invasion of Normandy, and the British attempts to arm and assist the Maquis ( French Underground guerrillas, the the incredible act that took place that has never been addressed to any extent in all of history. Replete with the photos of many of the participants.

    The opening chapter is entitled, ” The Man who Sold People.”

  46. Margi

    Keep reading…it doesn’t matter what you read, whether it is classroom studying, or escapist novels, it will keep your mind sharp and your vocabulary broadened. And if your friends all turn against you – you will always find a friend in an author. (lol).

    I just finished reading a book the other day, titled, “And The Walls Came Tumbling Down.Author…Jack Fishman. It is a true story that reads like an adventure novel,And has a cast of characters that no Hollywood producer would ever have the wit to assemble.

    It deals with the days just prior to the invasion of Normandy, and the British attempts to arm and assist the Maquis ( French Underground guerrillas, then the incredible act that took place that has never been addressed to any extent in all of history. Replete with the photos of many of the participants.

    The opening chapter is entitled, ” The Man who Sold People.”

  47. LOL, Mama. Quick look at it and it looks like ‘my bad’ at the end. My eyes popped when I read it. 1939 and Johnny Steinbeck is the text master.

  48. fran, I’m with you….reading is the best thing ever! Think I’ll pick up that book on your recommendation….

    of course, I realized something horrible the other day. Despite my mom’s protests, I always read on the beach, always, and no sunglasses or anything (tan lines and all). But now I can’t read without glasses and I’m off to St. Lucia in less than 2 weeks. This is a crisis I tell you, a crisis…..any suggestions anyone!???

  49. fran, I wanted to ask you what you read (pardon us, fellow ‘heads) when you said last week that you read 2 books a week. I’ve been reading lots of non-fiction. My friends (all 3) think I am weird (reason why only 3). Also love classics. Not into the best seller list at all.

  50. Mama – “nobody aint buyint that one” That’s a double negative, meaning everyone will buy that you don’t like Avery. I think you need to tell us how you feel about him before anyone gains a misconception.

  51. Does anyone know if they are using official 85th anniversary game pucks this year? There are a few teams celebrating anniversaries this year and I collect.

  52. I don’t think in real life he was ever called Johnny, though I could be wrong :)

    p.s., he, Hemingway and Fitzgerald….there’s a reason why their books are classics. Brilliant, though troubled men, all. Brilliant.

    Sorry, since these posts aren’t hockey related, let me put it in context:
    Hemingway = Prust (monster)
    Fitzgerald = Dubi (brilliant but gets in his own way sometimes)
    Steinbeck = hmmmm. Can’t think of an analogy….OK, so maybe this didn’t work so well :)

  53. Stranger Nation on

    Mama – strongly recommend getting audio version of book for iPod and staring out into the sea while someone reads you a great book. Keep the shades on and even partake in an adult beverage. Started doing this and it was the best way to soak in some sun, absorb some culture, and enjoy a nice rum drink!

  54. I just re-read the Great Gatsby. Amazing book. I read it in school but 85% of it went over my head.

    (I used 85…. well, just because)

  55. Tiki, ha! Nobody doesn’t like Sara Lee either :)……famous grammar class discussion, as is “Malboro tastes good like a cigarette should..

    personally, I could do without Sara Lee and Marlboros…..but that’s just me.

    Marji, I’ve been thinking of getting an e-reader since they have big type :) but you have to be so careful of the sand etc., and it’s not the same as a real book. It’s a crisis I tell you, a crisis.

  56. Im going overly optimistic this week. All 3 games will be wins. NYI should be an automatic win for a team fighting for a Playoff spot. MTL we have on the 2nd half of their back to back. I think with Crysby coming back this week for Pitt they will go thru the same thing we did when got some healthy players back and rattled off a couple of losses because of the shock to the roster

  57. Steinbeck- opposite to Lundquist. No one could bring him to his knees…

    Get an iPad, mama :-)

  58. No, Mama, it’s no the same as holding a real book and turning pages.

    Wear sunscreen.

  59. Stranger, now that’s possible! (without the shades of course, but with the rum drink) and I can still enjoy the view while listening. But I like an actual paper thing in my hand….hmmmm. The crisis continues….but you are helping…..thanks

    Great Gatsby = one of greatest books ever.

    Did you hear about the movie being made with DiCaprio as Gatsby (good) but potentially in 3D (bad)

    Oh yes, and LGR!!!!

    Leo = Hank…..brilliant with the occasional softie :)

  60. Doodie Machetto on

    Marji,

    Believe it or not, I did know that, but did not know that it was from The Grapes of Wrath.

  61. Marji …there are no”good books” and “bad books”..there are just enjoyable books, and some not so enjoyable.

    I tend to look for certain authoers.

    For police and detective novels I go to Michael Connelly, Steve Martini. and the incomparable, David Ballacci.* For historic novels I can’t find many better than Bernard Cornwell.

    * If you want something different, try his book…”The Winners”
    ( or was it Winner?) I know that Vince Flynn has a huge audience, as does W.E..B Griffith. ( but Griffith’s books are packed with relentless pointless conversation, but I learn a lot about different parts of the world and the details of how their inner systems work.

    Have any of you ever seen Lt Col Ralph Peters appear on Fox network as a commentator? Bet you didn’t know that he;s an accomplished author who wrote several books on the Civil War under the name of Owen Parry. He took real situations from those days and created a novel with a different type of protagonist in the guise of a Welsh Investigator for the Lincoln White House. His book “Bold Sons of Erin” was so gripping to me because it was about my countrymen in those days, and a real event that occurred.

  62. Somerset, love your positive attitude!
    Marji, always do.
    Doodie, still leaves lines :)
    ilb…we may have a winner! and lol!! (still, the sand issue)
    NYR…we also need cheese and crackers
    NYRanger…poor Carcillo. pity poo hoo. payback is a bee-atch eh?

  63. fran, I want to meet you and talk to/listen to you so much one day…..you are tremendously tremendous.

  64. Wicky (trying to go as fast as ILB on this thing) on

    It would be so sweet to have teams back in Quebec and w-peg!

    Sorry Orr!

  65. ilb

    I put some words together years ago, while driving to and from my office ( 22 miles) couldn’t stand the music and the talking was non existent. So I shut it off and started playing word games with myself putting different combinations together, and such and it lasted over a 8-9 month period. Never put anything on paper, just kept mentally playing with words. I’ll send you a copy of it if you think you might be interested…you might get a chuckle out of it.

  66. I say Washington…We shellacked them twice already this year…No reason we can’t do it another 4 times when it really counts…

  67. They’re a much improved team though. OvechCANT is playing his best hockey, the hard shot of Semen is back and healthy. They brought in a few guys like Wideman, and Arnott. Definitely a different team.

    But, I want Philly, because we only beat them once out of four games, and they’re the defending East champs.

    It would be awesome to take them out!

  68. I made up my mind. Thanks ORR ( oh help me) I agree, take Philly out! We can do it….LGR!

  69. ilb

    A book that I read about a year or so ago, just prior to his death by General Aleksander Lebed entitled “My Life and My country.

    Sure he was a Soviet General, but he was also a great man, and I admired him for that. I believe that you might well enjoy his personal bio in his own words. I recall him appearing before Congress and how impressed I was with his demeanor.

    For instance, one of my favvorite utterances of his:

    If a Lion stands at the head of an army of Lions, victory is assured.

    If a Lion stands at the head of an army of asses, the chances are fifty-fifty.

    But if an Ass stands at the head of an Army of Lions, you can
    call it quits.

    And we all know who he was referring to.(And it wasn’t necessarily) Sather.

  70. ilb

    A book that I read a few years ago, just prior to his death by General Aleksander Lebed entitled “My Life and My country.

    Sure he was a Soviet General, but he was also a great man, and I admired him for that. I believe that you might well enjoy his personal bio in his own words. I recall him appearing before Congress and how impressed I was with his demeanor.

    For instance, one of my favorite utterances of his:

    If a Lion stands at the head of an army of Lions, victory is assured.

    If a Lion stands at the head of an army of asses, the chances are fifty-fifty.

    But if an Ass stands at the head of an Army of Lions, you can
    call it quits.

    And we all know who he was referring to.(And it wasn’t (necessarily) Sather.

  71. I dont mean to toot my own horn but “somebody” finished in First Place in the Bonehead Yahoo Fantasy League …… Beep Beep

  72. Yes, Fran, I’d be interested in the copy of your words, for sure.
    Didn’t read the book you’re referring to.

    New poll? Do you guys ever work? lol

  73. I don’t want the easiest. I want the toughest.

    Not for nothing, it’s not like Pissburgh has been bad without those guys. They’re only a few points out of first place.

    Then there’s the officiating.

    I want a tough series, but not one where we’re battling the officials to win games.

  74. Great links ilb.

    pity poo hoo pronger.

    I’ll say it again re: league rules etc. and head butting….starts with the players. Carp, I’d love your thoughts on this issue.

    and that’s all I got tonight all….

  75. Somerset

    I dont mean to toot my own horn but “somebody” finished in First Place in the Bonehead Yahoo Fantasy League …… Beep Beep

    ———————————————

    HUH? not in the “Avery Gifted Gaborik” yahoo league you’re not!

    I’m leading all the team by 11 points with this being the last week of match-ups before the playoffs!

  76. Doodie Machetto on

    I think the best answer for the concussion issue is better diagnosis and treatment. More awareness would prevent guys like Gaborik and Crosby from playing while concussed, which is what inevitably leads to extended time missed.

  77. Bradbury “Fahrenheit 451″ and Orwell “1984” are very common, but interesting books, set in the future from when they were written.

  78. JimboWoodside on

    Carp – GREAT analysis of the “true” teams in our division that are playing .500 hockey, minus the skills competition and Bettman points. Never looked at it that way before, and too bad that the standings don’t reflect those statistics.

    Atlanta moving to Winnipeg? I had always assumed that it would be Phoenix, making the return trip back from whence they came…..?

  79. What treatment, Doodie? They should definitely improve the diagnosis of concussion, although I’m sure the protocol is already in place. It’s a matter of training personnel, as well as players, to be more diligent and look for possible symptoms. I still believe there is a room to improve the equipment (better helmets, look into excessive shoulder padding, etc.)

  80. CCCP …
    Im in the “Carps Boneheads” league with linda, grabby, mako, etc.
    Maybe we’re the minor league fantasy league ?? Ha. But i accept ur challenge for Blog Supremacy !!

  81. Olga Folkyerself on

    Outside of a dog, a book is mans best friend. Inside a dog, it’s too dark to read.
    -Groucho Marx

  82. Hey gang. Thanks for the birthday wishes. Twas a good day save my laptop not working so I am postimg from my brand new kindle. Pretty neat eh? Catch y’all later.

  83. Olga Folkyerself on

    Crosby skates today. The All-Crosby All the Time Network is back on the air…

  84. btw readers

    That new movie coming out, The Lincoln Lawyer, is taken from a book written by Michael Connelly. that will be the 2d or 3rd movie made from one of his books.

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