Rangers at Senators tonight; and an unhappy anniversary


It was pointed out to me by a highly-placed friend of the blog that last night was not only Brian Leetch’s 43rd birthday, but it was also the seven-year anniversary of the wonderful and classy trade of Leetch to Toronto.

So, the friend points out, last night should be the end of the “seven years of bad luck” the organization brought upon itself on 3/3/2004.

(editor’s note: the trade brought Maxim Kondratiev, Jarkko Immonen, a 1st round pick (later traded to Calgary – Calgary selected Kris Chucko) in 2004 and a 2nd round selection (Michael Sauer) in 2005. So it wasn’t a total loss).

Maybe tonight we will begin to see the seven-year curse turn? The statue of limitations is up. What’s that? It’s statute?

But bring your umbrellas in case any more of the sky falls. It’s a 7:30 start on MSG2.

Here are the pre-game notes from the Rangers:

Friday, Mar. 4, 7:30 p.m.
Scotiabank Place • Ottawa, Ontario
Rangers: 33-29-4 (70 pts)
Senators: 22-33-9 (53 pts)
* All information through NHL games on Mar. 3

The Rangers will face-off against the Ottawa Senators at Scotiabank Place (7:30 p.m.), in the second game of a back-to-back set. The Blueshirts currently rank third in the Atlantic Division standings, and eighth in the Eastern Conference, with a record of 33-29-4 (70 pts). The Rangers enter tonight’s contest having been defeated by the Minnesota Wild, 3-1 last night at Madison Square Garden. The Senators enter the contest with a 22-33-9 (53 pts) record to rank 15th in the Eastern Conference, and have won four of their last six games. Following tonight’s contest, the Rangers will face-off against the Philadelphia Flyers on Sunday, Mar. 6, at Madison Square Garden (12:30 p.m.), in their fifth game in eight days.


*       TV: MSG 2
7:00 p.m. – Rangers Pre-Game Show with John Giannone and Mike Keenan
7:30 p.m. – Rangers at Senators
Broadcasters: Sam Rosen (Play-By-Play), Joe Micheletti (Analyst), Stan Fischler (In-Game Reporter)
*       Radio: 970 The Apple and newyorkrangers.com
7:00 p.m. – Rangers Pre-Game Show
7:30 p.m. – Rangers at Senators
Broadcasters: Don LaGreca (Play-By-Play), Dave Maloney (Analyst)


*       All-Time: 31-33-3-1 overall (14-20-0-0 at home; 17-13-3-1 on the road)
*       2010-11: Tonight’s contest marks the third of four meetings this season, and the second of two at Scotiabank Place. The Blueshirts own a 1-1-0 record thus far, and are 1-0-0 on the road following a 5-3 victory at Ottawa on Dec. 9.
*       Last Season: New York was 3-1-0 in the season series, including a 2-0-0 mark at Ottawa. The Rangers’ penalty kill held the Senators scoreless in 13 power play opportunities in their four meetings.
*       New York ranks sixth with a 19-13-1 (39 pts) record on the road; Ottawa ranks 30th with an 11-17-5 (27 pts) mark at home
*       The Rangers are 7-6-1 vs. the Northeast Division; the Senators are 6-7-1 vs. the Atlantic Division
*       Henrik Lundqvist is 9-11-0 with a 2.03 goals against average and one shutout in 21 career regular season appearances vs. Ottawa
*       Bryan McCabe leads the Rangers with nine goals, 23 assists and 32 points in 64 career regular season contests vs. the Senators; Marian Gaborik has registered 13 points (five goals, eight assists) in 11 career regular season games vs. Ottawa
*       New York lists one former Senator on their roster: Vinny Prospal (1997-98 – 2000-01)
*       Ottawa lists no former Rangers on their roster

The Blueshirts have posted a plus-eight rating on special teams (PPG+SHG minus PPGA+SHGA) this season, which ranks sixth in the league.

*       Power Play: The Rangers did not tally a goal in four power play opportunities (8:00) last night vs. Minnesota, and are now 11-59 (18.6%) with the man advantage in their last 15 games. New York is tied for 22nd overall (39-236, 16.5%) and ranks 18th on the road (17-111, 15.3%). The Rangers are 2-10 (8:17) in five-on-three situations (last – 2/22 at CAR), and 0-4 (5:41) when four-on-three (last – 3/1 vs. MIN). Shorthanded goals allowed (4): 11/20 at MIN (Cullen); 12/5 vs. OTT (Kelly); 1/2 at FLA (Weiss); 1/16 vs. PHI (Richards).
*       Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts surrendered one goal to the Wild in one shorthanded situation (1:28) last night at MSG, and have allowed only 10 power play goals against in the last 24 games (64-74, 86.5% over the span). New York ranks 11th overall (183-220, 83.2%) and sixth on the road (100-119, 84.0%). The Rangers are 7-10 (7:21) in three-on-five situations (last – 2/27 vs. TBL), and 4-6 (2:41) when three-on-four (last – 11/15 at PIT). Shorthanded goals for (10): 10/9 at BUF (Dubinsky); 11/5 at NJD (Dubinsky); 11/15 at PIT (Staal); 11/24 at TBL (Boyle); 11/26 at FLA (Prust); 12/5 vs. OTT (Prust); 12/12 vs. WSH (Staal); 12/16 vs. PHX (Prust); 1/7 at DAL (Fedotenko); 2/27 vs. TBL (Prust).
*       Four-on-Four: New York did not skate in a four-on-four situation last night vs. Minnesota, and are now plus-three in 49, four-on-four situations (98:57). The Rangers are even in one, three-on-three situation (2:00) this season (2/17 vs. LAK). Four-on-four goals for (5): 10/18 vs. COL (Frolov); 11/11 vs. BUF (Anisimov); 11/15 at PIT (Callahan); 12/12 vs. WSH (Callahan); 1/5 vs. CAR (Zuccarello). Four-on-four goals allowed (2): 10/15 vs. TOR (Kessel); 1/1 at TBL (Thompson).

On Saturday, the Rangers acquired defenseman Bryan McCabe from Florida, in exchange for forward Tim Kennedy and a third round pick in the 2011 NHL Entry Draft. McCabe has eclipsed the 40-point plateau five times, including three seasons of 50 or more points, and was named to the NHL Second All-Star Team in 2004. The 15-year NHL veteran skated in his 1,000th career game on Nov. 6, 2009 vs. Washington, and was named Florida’s captain on Sept. 23, 2009. McCabe made his Rangers’ debut on Sunday vs. Tampa Bay, and recorded his first point as a Blueshirt with a power play assist on Tuesday vs. Buffalo.

The Rangers will conclude their 15th of 18 back-to-back sets tomorrow at Ottawa. New York is 9-6-1 (3-2-0 at home, 6-4-1 on the road) in the first game of back-to-backs. The Blueshirts are 10-5-0 (4-2-0 at home, 6-3-0 on the road) in the second game this season, having out-scored their opponent, 39-25, in those games. Over the last two seasons, New York is 19-7-2 in the back-end of back-to-back sets, including an 8-3-1 mark at MSG and 11-4-1 on the road over the span.

New York has posted a record of 7-20-3 when trailing after the second period. The Rangers’ 17 points lead the league, while their seven wins are tied for first in the NHL and their .233 winning percentage ranks fourth. The Blueshirts have out-shot their opponent, 178-97, in the third period of their last 15 games.

The Rangers have posted four more wins and three more points compared to last season through 66 games (29-28-9, 67 points in 2009-10), having tallied 12 more goals (182 this season, 170 last season) while allowing 16 fewer goals against (163 this season, 179 last season).  New York has also shown a five-goal improvement while shorthanded compared to 2009-10 (10 this season, five last season).

The Rangers lead the league in hits (1,875), are tied for first in shorthanded goals (10), rank fourth in blocked shots (1,038), fifth in road wins (19), sixth in penalty killing on the road (84.0%), are tied for seventh in goals against (163), and rank eighth with a plus-19 goal differential.

The Blueshirts have skated in 33 one-goal games this season, which is tied for the fifth most in the league, having posted a record of 17-12-4 in those contests. Their 17 wins are tied for seventh in the NHL. Twenty of the Rangers’ last 28 games have been decided by one goal, including 10 of their last 14 road games.

The Rangers have had 18 different players credited with at least one game winning goal this season, which is the most in the NHL.


*       Ryan Callahan has recorded 10 points (six goals, four assists) in the last 14 games, with eight points (four goals, four assists) in the last nine contests
*       Vinny Prospal has recorded seven points (two goals, five assists) in the last 10 contests, including five points (one goal, four assists) in the last five games
*       Erik Christensen has tallied at least one point in three of the last four games, registering six points (three goals, three assists) in the last four games
*       Brandon Prust has registered three points (two goals, one assist) in the last five games
*       Ryan McDonagh has tallied three assists in the last six games

200 WINS
Henrik Lundqvist posted his 200th career win in a 4-3 shootout win vs. Los Angeles on Feb. 17, becoming only the fifth goalie in franchise history to reach the 200-win mark. He currently ranks fourth on the Rangers’ all-time wins list (202).

The Rangers have the sixth youngest team in the league with an average age of 26 years and 210 days, and the youngest defensive corp in the league with an average age of 24 years and 328 days. *based on NHL rosters on Jan. 11


*       Steve Eminger: 1 game from 400 NHL career


*       Henrik Lundqvist: 200th career NHL win (2/17 vs. LAK)
*       Brandon Dubinsky: 300th career NHL game (3/3 vs. MIN)


*       Derek Boogaard (injured shoulder on Dec. 9) – 36
*       Alex Frolov (injured knee on Jan. 8, expected to be sidelined for the remainder of the season) – 23
*       Chris Drury (injured knee on Feb. 4, 6 weeks) – 12
*       Marian Gaborik (concussion-like symptoms) – 5
*       Martin Biron (fractured collarbone on Feb. 28) – 2
Total Man-Games Lost: 258


*       Feb. 26: Acquired defenseman Bryan McCabe from Florida in exchange for forward Tim Kennedy and a third round pick in the 2011 NHL Entry Draft
*       Feb. 26: Assigned defenseman Michael Del Zotto to Connecticut (AHL)
*       Feb. 28: Acquired forward John Mitchell from Toronto in exchange for a seventh round pick in the 2012 NHL Entry Draft
*       Feb. 28: Recalled goaltender Cam Talbot from Greenville (ECHL)
*       Mar. 2: Recalled goaltender Chad Johnson from Connecticut (AHL)
*       Mar. 2: Assigned goaltender Cam Talbot to Connecticut (AHL)
*       Mar. 3: Assigned forward Kris Newbury to Connecticut (AHL)

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  1. Laurel went all sexist on me! You can;t learn on a job, Laurel…this ain’t no McDonald’s! lol

    Since when Greschner works for the Rangers? That’s news to me.

  2. a repost for


    putting up something positive and hopeful

    where’s the sarcasm?
    did you have a good breakfast?
    see one your enemies get splashed by a taxi running over puddle?



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  4. Carp

    thank you for letting me post and repost the ad!

    We’re in bad need of help! Come on people!! Who wants a job?!

  5. Carp

    “seven years of bad luck” sort of ended with emergence of Sauer…which is somewhat ironic since he was a pick we got when Rangers gave up on Leetch

  6. Aw man, I got carp’d and hartnell’d I think……you all are too fast for me. C3, see my response in last thread. No time for repost, gotta get running :)

  7. fyi, do you all know that Lloyd Braun is a real person who works in LA? True fact. The Seinfeld episodes are an homage (big word :) to him…..

  8. Yesterday Doodie posted that a hat trick cannot include a post celebrating the Hat Trick. I was both humbled and humiliated. I think that we should absolutely follow this new system.

    Love you Tony.

  9. Stogiepuss must go on

    Goaltender Craig Anderson will make his seventh straight start on Friday against the Rangers. He’s 4-2 with a 1.16 GAA with a .966 save percentage in that span. – TSN

    just what the Rangers need, another hot goalie to face them.

  10. a statute of limitations is a statute that bars any claim of action after a prescribed period of time, carp! c’mon!


    law school afly

  11. Statute of Limitations? Really? Come on guys. I want to keep my Job separate from my Fun.

  12. Noah-rury-aborik, 28 on

    GEORGE: The speed-dial is a relationship barometer.
    KRAMER: It’s prounounced thermometer.

  13. C3, I did :) and I’m neither, I’m the hatchet lady!!!

    This is a cheat (on Seinfeld reference) cause I looked it up. But seems apropos for you all lately :)

    Rangers = I don’t know, I’m obsessed with it. It’s like a spider in the toilet struggling for a survival. And even if you know it’s not going to make it, you kind of root it for awhile.

    I hate spiders but I love my Rangers! No flushing!!!

  14. Good afternoon, ‘heads!

    Sorry, Carp, couldn’t support you in your positive thoughts this morning, looked like you, and a few others, were against one negative wall out there. We got a ton of fresh snow overnight, so we had a lot of fun…

    Anyway, I don’t think I can change the general mood of this blog, but I’ll give it a chance.
    Not sure if everyone truly understands what rebuilding means. Last year we made a real step towards true rebuilding, yet the team was good enough to make the playoffs. They were healthy and Gaborik was scoring. They added a few veterans at the deadline, but came up short. They underachieved.
    In the offseason they got rid of some dead wood, avoided buying a couple of expensive veterans, took a little risk on Frolov. And added a 20 yr old center. As of now, their core defensemen barely started to shave. The offense is still young and learning, you shouldn’t expect them to know how to deal with adversity without actually going through. We are in a full rebuilding mode. Who would’ve thought it was even possible in NY? Yet, the team remains competitive and fun to watch.
    If they make the PO, and I still believe they will, they will overachieve. And, please, don’t question Torts’ ability to lead this team, he is the best coach we’ve had for a long, long time.

  15. Stogiepuss must go on

    I give Torts credit for the youth move and the rebuild. It was Torts who told Stogiepuss he did not want Redden playing in NY, and he told Stupid that he wanted to go with kids, and would stick with them. which he has, for the most part.

    the blame for a falloff can be more tied to the vets who have underperformed, especially Gaborik

  16. Via ESPN Insider that Noah linked:

    “My New York Rangers have lost three in a row and they’re just 4-6 in their last 10 games, falling into eighth place in the conference. Are we going to miss the playoffs? –Laura B, Scarsdale, N.Y.

    Yogi Berra famously said, “It ain’t over ’til it’s over,” right? The Rangers still have 16 games on the schedule, including Friday night’s tilt against the Eastern Conference cellar-dwelling Ottawa Senators. I’d say that’s a game you really want to win.

    Clearly, the New Yorkers have to generate more offense down the stretch. Since Jan. 1, the Rangers have scored three or fewer goals in 23 of their 28 games (that’s not counting two shootout wins in which they were credited with a fourth goal). And in 18 of those 28 games they’ve scored two or less. Not surprisingly, they’re 11-15-2 in that span.

    Star sniper Marian Gaborik’s underperformance and absences because of injury haven’t helped matters. Without a healthy and productive Gaborik in the lineup, the Rangers don’t have anybody who can put a scare into an opponent. The Slovak star is currently sidelined with a concussion. He has been skating and he did plan on accompanying the team to Ottawa, but he figures to be doubtful against the Sens.

    Despite their woes, the Rangers still have a good chance to hold onto a playoff spot. With the exception of the 12th-seeded and red-hot New Jersey Devils, who still remain 10 points out of the eighth spot, there aren’t any real dynamos chasing the Rangers. Basically, as it stands today, they have to finish ahead of either the Carolina Hurricanes or Buffalo Sabres. (The Sabres do have three games in hand; the Hurricanes have one.) If the Rangers can’t outplay at least one of those teams down the stretch, they simply don’t deserve a spot in the Stanley Cup playoffs.”

  17. it’s bad enough the rangers can’t score but now MCD is out of the lineup and the rangers will depend more on McCabe playing defense, wow!!! It just keeps getting worse by the day. When the rangers won the cup I felt like, finally, now the curse is broken. You know that curse, the 54 year curse. I really didn’t think it would be another 54 years before the won the cup again but I am having my doubts about it.

  18. the Rangers tough remaining schedule includes

    Philly twice, Boston twice, at SJ and Ana and Buffalo and Pitt

    then finishing with the debbies.

  19. I’ve been say it for weeks. This team is not making the playoffs. That’s my opinion. I felt that way after a week or two after the all star break and I haven’t seen anything that has changed my mind. Yes, it would be nice if they made the playoffs, if anything so the kids could get experience. there is another side of me that wants the rangers to tank so they can finally get a high pick and hopefully draft a elite offensive player. I realize that neither will happen.

  20. Stranger Nation on


    agree on Vets letting them down. Top 5 forward scorers from last year. All have either been injured, plateua’d or underperformed.

    G A Pts +/-

    MARIAN GABORIK 42 44 86 15

    VINNY PROSPAL 20 38 58 8

    BRANDON DUBINSKY 20 24 44 9

    RYAN CALLAHAN 19 18 37 -12

    CHRIS DRURY 14 18 32 -10

    Vinny and Drury have not helped this year. Gabby is MIA most of season.

    Dubi and Cally are about the same.

  21. Now! Now, George! Turn on the faucet! George, turn on the faucet! Hoochie mama! Hoochie mama! Hoochie mamamaaaaa!

  22. What’s sad is both the Sabres and the Canes arguably have more talent than us. They are just poor defensively.

  23. If I was the rangers GM I would serious consider trading Gaborik in the off season. When I heard Gaborik’s named mentioned as a possible free agent signing by the rangers. I read how Gaborik was injury prone and never is healthy, I said to myself, no, please, Sather, not another stupid signing. What I don’t understand is whoever Sather listens to needs to be fired immediately. This is why I cringe when I hear sather and FA.

  24. Hoochie yourselves!!! OK all, I’m off till Sunday…be good, behave and believe! LGR!!!!

  25. “You don’t know my name, do you?”
    “Yes I do.”
    “What is it?”
    “It, uh, rhymes with a female body part.”
    “What is it?”

  26. rangers lose 4-2 end season in 11th in conf. lose 11 of 16 to end it.


  27. Have not posted all year long- but has anyone noticed this pattern that the Rangers are significantly out-shooting opponents- but if you really drill down, not many of these shots are quality scoring chances? (Not to mention that we somehow generate a significant odd-man rushes that result in no shot being taken…which is absurd) How many times can we play games where the other goalie is “outstanding”? It just doesn’t seem like a coincidence

    I’ll grant that sometimes we’re unlucky (and hopefully luck will bounce our way- everything regresses to a mean) but we just don’t generate enough shots that force a rebound.

  28. One thing I’ve noticed. When I watch the better nhl teams passing the puck. Whether it’s on the power play or starting out behind there own net, it’s like night and day compared to the rangers. The rangers cannot make one good pass, never mind several. The rangers have to be the worse team passing the puck. Last night it was brutal. Passes were either to far behind, to far in front, puck end over end flipped in the air. I’m starting to think our young forwards are nothing but 3rd and fourth line grinders with not much offensive talent.

  29. Noah-rury-aborik, 28 on

    A win tonight and a CAR loss at Chicago, and there’s a small sign of life.

  30. ToMG- agreed, but hopefully not regarding your conclusion on our talent- I think they have talent…starting to question the strategy…

    but, today’s a new day-

  31. I’m not worried aboot the Canes. The Canes can win until they’re blue in the face. I wouldn’t care if they went undefeated for the rest of the season.

    It’s the Sabres we have to worry aboot. 7th place, 8th place, it doesn’t matter, either way we’re versing a team we haven’t beaten.

    Actually the Bruins are in 2nd place for the moment.

    I like the idea of going against one of the top three teams in the East. I wouldn’t want anything to change. I’m hoping for Philly.

  32. Trueblue,
    yea, I hear ya. That’s it for me posting what posters could determine as negative. It’s tough being a ranger fan.

  33. Has anybody else noticed that we have been a different team (in terms of style of play) since Froloaf and Blowzy went away? Just sayin’…

  34. I tell you: If I was a Ranger in this situation right now, I’d start aiming my shots at the posts and cross bar.

    It’s incredible how often they manage to hit these posts ( BY ACCIDENT). Image how much damage they could do if they tried to hit them.

    And I would also aim directly at the goal tender’s pads. At least this would keep the puck still in play instead of bounding off somewhere else in the arena, due to missing the net. ( at least if it hit the pads, there might be a chance of a rebound.)

    This is whimsy of course, but these times develop strange and sometimes kooky ideas to form in the heads of the faithful.. I’ve admit..I’ve been smitten. Just ignore this as just another clever strategy conceived by a clever and kooky fan.

  35. Makes sense to me, fran. Sometimes you have to do the opposite of what you’re doing.

    I always have tuna on toast. Nothing’s ever worked out for me with tuna on toast. I want the complete opposite of on toast. Chicken salad, on rye, untoasted … and a cup of tea.

  36. I fell asleep with us up 1-0. Woke up with us down 2-1. Went to go pee pee and Henrik gave up the 3rd goal while I was in the bathroom.

    Like I said, Henrik is good, but he just isn’t good enough. He doesn’t have killer instinct. He doesn’t have leadership instinct. He’s not willing to alter his style of play.

  37. Stranger Nation on

    OK – that’s the reason they cannot score – no Blowzy. Let’s bring him back next year. Keep Redden up with the big club, resign McCabe and Eminger.

    That would be a great back line.


    Whew that was easy, problem solved. Now that we have the Defense taken care of, lets focus on Goal scoring. First we resign Frolov…

  38. Stranger Nation on



    Kids need some more time with the ‘pack…

  39. Stranger Nation on

    Tiki – hate to think of would have happened if you needed to take a Carcillo

  40. LOL! Stranger, that might not go over well with Rangers fans!

    Seriously, I really just think that the timing is a coincidence and has more to do with the fact that the injuries have disrupted team chemistry. Not only that, but it also looks like the players are worn down, tired, and beat up from their “in-your-face” style of play. Not to mention that we have 4 rookies piling up big minutes in key situations.

  41. Unfortunately sather will be the rangers GM until he decides to leave. Which means sather isn’t going anywhere.

  42. I *almost* gave up on the Rangers in the Lindros-Holik-no-playoffs Era. If our roster next year includes Redden and Rozy (again), I’m gone for good.

  43. after i got back from msg last nite i watched the leafs-flyer game..aulie did a nick fotiu on hartnell….fun stuff….leafs beating them was great to see…if they can,we can!!!!!

  44. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Last night I saw a werewolf with a Chinese menu in his hand. Walking thru the streets of soho in the rain. He was looking for a place called lee ho phucs….aaaaaawhooooooooo werewolves of London ….

  45. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    …you better stay away from him Jim, he’ll rip your lungs out…huuuuut, I like to meet his tailor…

  46. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Another zevon classic line…lawyers, guns, and money…. The carcillo has hit the fan…

  47. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    I saw Lon Chaney jr. Walking with the queen…doin the werewolves of London

  48. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Carp – I like your taste… Mainly because I have great taste and you seem to agree with me…now let’s go on a shark-like 9 game tear…

  49. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    … You should come out west… We can eat shark and watch our lads eat some shark :)

  50. Eddie Eddie Eddie on

    Eddie, Seles, shoots…. And scores….he cannot be stopped, you can only hope to contain him…

  51. eddie eddie eddie on

    if the rangers lose to ahhhh 2 wahhhh, tonight…i will mutilate MYSELF

  52. eddie eddie eddie on

    tony – no need for help…i will fly solo….pain is a good, maybe the best thing…

  53. is there a better angle of video on that Gillies hit that shows him “target the head”?

    Let Go Rangers!we need 2 byfuglien points!

  54. Oh good noones here,im early,i can get a good seat,hmmm… these look good ,right here in the front!
    meh,ill get a stiff neck up this close.maybe in the middle somewhere…..

  55. did i ever tell you about the time i scored 7 goals in an inline hockey game?
    what?oh i did?…..oh.

  56. As long as the Rangers dont take Charlies advice on Winning!
    tho they could all use some Dragon DNA i suppose.

  57. I was always more of a Lawyers, Guns and Money fan but Now Carpy you’re smart, is it statue or statute?…Oh, Well i really think you’re wrong.
    Tonight, the Rangers will show the Sens How to Sell COMPUTAS!

  58. Wicky (trying to go as fast as ILB on this thing) on

    Too bad we don’t actually have a d man or two that keep the area of blue in front of Hank free of obstructions with malicious intent!

    But whatever, they are still the rangers and I will always cheer for them no matter who is or is not on the team and always want them to make the playlets rebuilding or not!


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