Rangers-Kings in review

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Just when I start to think the East is closing the gap on the West, another Western team on the bubble comes along and pops my eyes wide open. L.A. is a pretty solid team, big and fast and talented, and was only ninth in the West coming into the game, despite it’s 10-game streak without a regulation loss.

The West is much, much deeper. And I thought the Penguins, before they all started falling down, might win it all because of the top level talent plus the way they play so hard and nasty. But now it’s hard for me to see any Eastern team other than Philly having a shot to take home Stanley. And I’m not convinced that Philly has the — everybody say it with me — goaltending. (Speaking of which, did you read the story on the Flys and Bobrovsky by SI’s Michael Farber — the best hockey writer on the continent — last week? Here it is.)

All that said, your boys beat ‘em. It took some sick shootout moves and some blown leads and some roller-coaster emotions and mental toughness. But …

Thoughts:

1) I love it that John Tortorella is so passionate about this team that he says stuff like he said last night. You know, about his team’s, ahem, guts.

2) About the skills competition: If I were Tortorella, I would always go first at home, especially now that he has those near-automatics. And if I were Tortorella, I would think about having Marc Staal on my list somewhere after the top three — he has good hands in close and a long stick. And I would show Marian Gaborik some Steve Larmer penalty shot tapes. Larmer would skate right down the slot, wind up and fire a slap shot … and score almost every time. It doesn’t have to be a slapper, but Gaborik should be able to pick a corner with a snap shot from 15 feet out.

3) As distasteful as I find the skills competiton to be in terms of deciding outcomes of hockey games, Christensen and the Italian kid from Norway sure make it fun to watch. But I look at it this way, too. If Zuccarello didn’t score, for example, and the Rangers had lost, would they have felt as good as they did about that game? How stupid is that. You play 65 minutes of hard hockey, and you judge the whole freakin’ thing by a breakaway contest? But I’m not going to get into that again.

4) These three games in three and a half days might be as hard a three-game stretch as any NHL team will play this season — against the two hottest teams in the league, followed by an early matinee against an archrival that also happens to be the best team in the conference.

5) About the Devils, as we look ahead. People are talking cooky about them making the playoffs, and maybe they will. But I don’t see it being at the Rangers’ expense. I fully expect the Rangers to not fold at any point, to play above NHL .500 the rest of the way, and to ultimately at one point or more, have a stretch where they win four of five, or six of eight, and that will go a long way in assuring them of staying well ahead of the Devils.

6) That said, the Devils are going to be hell to play for any opponent on their schedule the rest of the season … and hell to watch with that Jacques Lemaire style. Say what you will, it works.

7) Ryan Callahan=Monster.

8) In today’s NHL, you’re better off having a shootout expert on your fourth line than a goon. That’s a fact, jack.

9) Guess I spoke too soon the other day about the coach having a knack for calling timeouts at the right time. I mean, it may have been the right time last night. But it backfired.

10) Several players said it afterwards, and I noticed it right off the bat last night, but it was one of the best crowds of the season for some reason. Maybe because there have been so few games lately.

11) We’ve all noticed this all season long. The Rangers are better and more effective when they start banging, or being banged around, and they were last night, too. Lots of hits in this game. Gotta like that.

12) I especially enjoyed it when Ponikarovsky knocked down Girardi hard and who came to his defense? Mats Zuccarello, who at 5-7 (maybe) got right in the 6-4 Ponikarovsky’s face. Well … OK, maybe in his chest.

13) They closed up the old John F.X. Condon Press Room for good last night, one in which I’ve been working since 1978-79. The new press room will be elsewhere in the renovated Garden. I won’t miss the old one, but I sure hope somebody has enough sense to keep the name of the late, great, classy and understated former Garden public address announcer on the new room.

14) Fitting that Henrik Lundqvist gets win No. 200 against the Kings. Good for him.

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AP photo, above.

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I’m going back to my other job today, which means I have a basketball playoff game — and I will have a lot of those over the next four weeks. So I won’t see Rangers-Devils live. Might catch the third period on the radio. Hope they show it again late tonight. Then I’ll be at MSG Sunday.

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  1. That was probably the most exciting game so far this season, but why do they so often give up a goal within minutes of taking the lead? I really thought the timeout would help with that, but I guess not.

    Getting 2 more points out of these next 2 games would be sweet.

  2. May have been exciting but the blown leads were pretty frustrating to watch. especially when they played so well defensively while the game was tied in the 3rd. Maybe its just all these 1 goal/nail biter games but im starting to get frustrated with these guys. It would be nice if they could just kill it tonight. I know the Devils are hot but my nerves could use a clear cut win instead of a grinding struggle. just for one game. yet I know it wont happen.

  3. After seeing the type of games the Kimgs can play it’s amazing how they can be on the outside looking in but teams like Nashville are entrenched in the West’s top 8. Aside from Dustin Brown, Drew Doughty = monster. He’s like Big Buff but can actually play shutdown D and not just throw big hits.

    I’m ticked I didn’t go to this one, would’ve been a nailbiter but worth the price of admission.

    I saw later in the night they changed Dubi’s goal to AA, I thought the net cam replay showed the puck went in off of Bernier’s skate on the near post and never got throughout the other side where Artie was.

  4. ilb

    i hope you enjoyed the game last night.how were the seats wow what a up and down game. well last night was my sons first game on tv with dad. it brought a tear to my eye.

    it was time for a feeding just about the time ot started. i think i was more nervous for the game then doing the feeding.

    jake cooper 1-0 lets keep it going.

    also if anyone interested i have tix for tues march 22nd at 7pm vs florida

    section 330 aisle seats $115 for pair. face value

  5. N.CountryNYRFan on

    Carp I agree 100% on the Gaborik shootout thing. I loved Steve Larmer as a player and I remember very well his breakaway/penalty shot style. Simply skate in a blast one by the goalie, it was effective and just great to see. Gabby should simply just shoot.

  6. What a game last night! They had me on the edge of my seat. In fact, I couldn’t sit down. I was pacing back and forth. These Rangers are going to be the death of us all if they keep playing these nail biter games!

  7. Character win last night. MZA showed plenty of “jam” and EC reminded me why we gave him a sweater in a big way. That goal to kick things off in the SO was RIDICULOUS. I loved seeing Biron so animated and with everyones attention as well.

    Here is to a hot stretch and shutting down the Debbies tonight.

  8. Julie – I totally agree. I think I need to see my cardiologist more regularly after this season!

  9. HockeymanRangers on

    I new it, I new I would see in Carps write up today ” Ryan Callahan = Monster. I WISH TORTS WOULD MAKE CALLAHAN CAPTIAN OF THIS TEAM. He would be our best captain since “THE CAPTAIN” Messier was our leader. This weekends games will show us just what this team is for real. If we can compete with the hot devils and the leagueS number 1 team we have a chance. WE CAN DO THIS, GO RANGERS.

  10. You and me both Manfried! I don’t know how many more games I can watch! I get so frustrated with them at times. Hopefully, tonight, they will get a big lead early to let us relax some.

  11. Doodie Machetto on

    Carp, thanks for meeting me last night before the game. You really do a great job of keeping us boneheads locked in.

    Since I was at the game last night, I need to ask people for some things that were not as open and apparent to me in the stands:

    1) Was Gaborik’s goal deflected?

    2) Why was Dubinsky’s goal credited to Anisimov (who looked like he did nothing but fall into the goaltender after it was scored)?

    3) What the hell happened on LA’s 2nd and 3rd goals?

  12. I didn’t know Dubes’ goal was credited to Artem. Maybe that was just someone feeling bad for Anisimov getting pushed around so much last night. Rose and Micheletti both were saying it was Dubes’ goal and it surely looked like it was.

    Gaborik’s goal looked clean.

    The 2nd Kings goal was a mess. I can’t remember how it actually went in but I remember being superbly aggravated about it. I think the 2nd goal was off Avery’s stick? Maybe not Avery’s but someone else in that area. Superb deflection to 5-hole. Unfortunately off our own player.

    The 3rd goal I guess went off K. Henry’s head or shoulder, on an attempt to throw the puck toe front and center, and then bounced in.

  13. One thing I noticed is how big and strong the Kings are. The Rangers are a great hitting team, but they really don’t compare to how hard the Kings hit. You could feel most of those hits the Kings gave out. The Rangers may be just as effective with their hitting, but they don’t have the force the Kings do. I think in a long series that could be an issue. Just an observation.

  14. Stranger Nation on

    Great write up

    Dubi has been taking some dumb penalties (offensive zone) and needs to get his skates sharpened. Looked like he was playing knee hockey in the attacking zone half the game.

    AA did not touch puck but Dont care if he gets credit as he was doing what he should be doing, crashing the net, looking for rebounds, and occupying a def player.

    Refs let a lot go last night which made for an exciting game. It’s the annual playoff run where they stop calling interference as much and let more questionable checks happen. Gabby was battling all game along boards on the receiving end of his fair share of cross-checks. They called one, but concerned he is a hit or two away from being injured. Not sure if his shot was deflected or he just didn’t get enough on it. Joe Mic called it a knuckler, but more importantly he was skating in space and letting it go from slot with a D screen.

    Sauer and McD were awesome. On for every ranger goal (no coincidence) Sauer play on Gabby goal was textbook. Stood up man in neutral zone, stole puck, and flipped it off boards to Gabby. Staal hit in the corner was highlight reel material. Hard to believe the guy got right up.

    50 hits is generous unless they are counting rangers hitting the boards when Kings hit them. Either way it is 2 pts and we will take down the debbies tonite and send them back into their hole.

  15. Yeah the Kings have some bruisers. Brown, Handzus, Kopitar could be if he wanted to, Doughty, Scuderi, Mitchell, Greene. I want them to make it out West, I think they’d be a big problem for some of the top seeds.

  16. GOALS for GAB-orik on

    Great game to watch (in retrospect, now that we tucked our 2 points away, after nearly having a meltdown in my living room!)

    I would love to drop the Devils in regulation, and snuff out some of that playoff talk… then of course, beat Philly on Sunday when i’ll be there!

    Carp… gonna be tough to meet up before the game with the new location?

    I might make a sign for the game that says Carcillo=Jackwagon.

  17. Do it Goals. You’re a visionary on the fan-sign front.

    Last nights game was a roller coaster of utter jubilation and utter defeat. Glad we got 2.

    A guy I work with was jawing about how the Devils are a legitimate contender now. Can we please make that not a reality tonight. Let’s go Sean Avery.

  18. Remember Two Things on

    Kings are 8th in West but 3 pts out of 3rd and 4 pts from 11th

    Rangers are closer to 4th as Debbies are to PO spot. Win tonite would (re)create a nice cushion between blueshirts and the Atl, Car, Buf, Tor (?) grouping. Maple Loafs get rid of dead weight and start winning…hmmm…

  19. Good game day morning. Big game at the pebble tonight. LGR! Will Hank play?

    I tried watching the shoot out on atdhe.net and was blown away when I found it was seized by the Feds. When did that happen? Is it true that atdhe just moved to atdhe.tv? Anybody know?

  20. Caps are in another funk. Aside from their gun fight with the Ducks the other night they’re having trouble scoring. Rangers might have a better chance catching them than Montreal.

  21. Doodie Machetto on

    I said this to Carp before last night’s game and I’ve been saying it for a couple of weeks now:

    If the Devils somehow make the playoffs, they will immediately have to be considered among the Cup favorites. To be on that good of form for that long of a run would make them a powerhouse that could be stopped only by its own tiring out.

    Fortunately, I don’t think they make the playoffs. It’s just too deep of a hole for them to climb out of. They will lose 5 or 6 games here or there and that will be the end, especially when teams above them get inflated point totals from the mythical 3 point games.

  22. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    Don’t know if anyone posted it or not, but looked like AA should have got credit for the goal dubi scored (it either went in off AA”s stick or bernier’s left skate, but looked like AA’s stick).

    I still HATE the stupid skills competition regardless of how many games we win with it!!

    Jack Johnson=MONSTER!

    OPG’s best game in quite a while regarding physicality!

  23. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    Avs sens trade goalies!! Hopefully kaberle is going to boston today!!

  24. >>3)…You play 65 minutes of hard hockey, and you judge the whole freakin’ thing by a
    >>breakaway contest?

    No, Carp! You judge the whole freakin’ thing by the number of points you end up with. To players and fans, it makes no darn difference if those two points came after sixty minutes, sixty-five minutes, or the breakaway contest.

  25. Doodie,

    With Parise fully recovered, they could make some noise. Although you really wonder if they’d go with Moose or the guy that looks like he ate a moose in goal.

    But I think time is their enemy at this point. Canes and Sabres are both on pace for about 88 points. The Devils need to win 76% of their remaining points just to get to 88. The most regulation losses the Devils can suffer to maintain that pace is 6 (19-6-0). The least amount of wins the Devils can get and maintain that pace is 13 (13-0-12).

  26. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    ok, so this may be a completely odd tangent here, but does eminger skating look just like harvey williams running?? I mean it is kind of eerily similar!

  27. I have no idea what the best points % over any 25 stretch by any teams is this season, but the Flyers points % for the season is .710

  28. the reason why the timeout backfired was b/c Tortorella put Stepan and Anisimov out there to take the draw. That was poor decision on his part…

  29. Was anybody else as impressed as I was with Dustin Brown’s game last night? Guy seemed to have the puck on his stick everytime he was on the ice. His first goal was sick and you defintely can’t blame Hank on that turnaround shot and move.

    However, after watching the replays, I still think the Kings’ second and third goals were soft. I realize Brown scored his 2nd from pretty much behind the goal line, but Lundqvist wasn’t even prepared for the wraparound and didnt hug the post. Luckily we got the 2 points, so you can’t be too upset but these types of goals really worry me as we get into the home stretch here…Every game is a nailbitter and Rangers aren;t winning with authority anymore. Yes, they have balls but they have to score more goals and get better goaltending…

    wick – Let’s just say Eminger probably wouldn’t be a good figure skater…lol

  30. Good morning, Sally!

    Atta boy, Tony.

    hockeymon, it’s a topic of conversation. Can they do it? It would take a ridiculously long hot streak, or some other teams to collapse.

    Thanks, Doodie. Good to meet you, too.

    Gab, I don’t dare miss a warmup with Flyers-Rangers … with the new press room location I am guessing I will be near the red line on the penalty box side, in the aisle behind the lower bowl of seats. Drop me a line on here so I’ll know to look for you … and you can look for me.

    Is Carcillo even playing?

    Hockeyman, I think the C to Callahan is only a matter of time.

  31. doesnt take away from the fact they are in the bottom 10 when it comes to faceoffs. Boyle, Christensen or Prospal should have been taking the draw…

  32. So, JBytes, if the Rangers played the exact same game as they played last night and lost in the silly skills competition, you’d feel a lot differently about how they played?

    NYR, I was.

  33. doodie Cup favs=Dev’s lol. They are extremely hot but let’s not get carried away WOW! Still have fatso and his ego not going anywhere until that cancer is removed.

  34. Ria (the silent bonehead) on

    This is why this place is the best Carp gives us great postgame interviews way before any of the other reporters and lots of “new posts” er Carpings lol hope you know just how much all your hard work is appreciated Carp!

  35. Anybody with Direct TV know what channel Sunday’s game is on ?
    I know it’s on NBC, but out here in AZ they’re showing the Detroit/Wild game followed by Pissburg (surprise)

  36. Ria (the silent bonehead) on

    Tony check center ice they’ve been giving free preview all week btw how’s the mrs. doing? Well I hope

  37. GOALS for GAB-orik on

    Carp,

    will do, i’ll make my way to that area pre-game, and drop a line on here when i arrive. If Carcillo isn’t playing maybe I can amend it to

    Flyers=Jackwagons

  38. Doodie Machetto on

    hedberg, like I said, if they get into the playoffs, they will have just completed one of the hottest 41 game runs in NHL history. Why would the Cup be out of the question at that point?

    They are 13-1-2 in their last 16 games. Based on the numbers CTB put above, they need a run like 16-9 from here on out to be even in the conversation for the playoffs. That would make them 29-10-2 in 41 games, which, if they put it over a whole season, would be 58-20-4, good for 120 points.

    If you’re on a run of form that good entering the playoffs, how are you not a favorite within them? Also, consider that only 4 of those 41 games were against Western Conference teams, so the Devils will have gone on such a run by stomping the Eastern Conference, including a couple of games against other favorites like Philly, Tampa, and Boston. Who exactly would be able to stop them before they reached the finals?

    So, I repeat, if the Devils make the playoffs, they have to be heavy favorites to win. The only things I’d be concerned about would be fatigue from playing so hard for so long or a letdown of intensity from making the playoffs. The team could be so focused on the goal of making the playoffs that the emotions could be hard to regroup for a refocused goal of a playoff run.

  39. Carp, as a footballer, I’m result oriented. There a times when my team plays like Brazilians and loses. There are other times when we barely show up and still manage to snatch three points. Can you guess when I go home the happiest? The team’s overall play, game breakdown and analysis are for the coaches to worry about.

  40. oleo, faceoffs in general tend to be a 50/50 proposition. The very best might win close to 60%, but judging by the game summary it was Handzus that took that draw and he’s at about 51% on the season.

  41. i live in LA. you watch 1 team 1 game or 1 player a game here and there you do not get the whole picture. the kings are like the rangers, they can’t score….

    they are big and fast but they can’t pass and shoot in hockey that is a problem.

    there PK early in the year was #1, and quick is a good goalie but overall they are a good not great team. there young talent is higher ceiling then the rangers young talent but the rangers have more players and are younger. doughty is 20 and tremendous and johnson is 23 or so but there other young d men are stcuk in the minors forbert and hickey and these guys were all 1st rounders.

    look at the rangers youth. the line of anisimov, dubi, and cally with sauer and mcdonagh on d. cally is the old man at 26….SICK….

  42. >>…Why would the Cup be out of the question at that point?

    Because they would have already played their playoffs just to get in the real playoffs. They’d be physically and emotionally drained. And, getting into the playoffs while you’re hot doesn’t guarantee you’ll stay hot.

  43. Doodie Machetto on

    JBytes, I pointed that out at the bottom. If they make the playoffs, the only team that would beat them is themselves.

  44. Devils record would have to anywhere from 13-0-12 to 19-6-0 just to keep pace with the projected point totals for Canes and Sabres. I think the Canes have a better shot at hitting 88, they’ve played a bit more consistent the whole year. The Sabres have really come on in the last quarter of the season but have been playing like a lot of their games in extra time or the shoot out.

  45. Regarding the Devils chances at the playoffs much less the cup. They have 25 games remaining and have 50 pts. They will probably need about 92 points to make the playoffs.

    They need to go something like 21-4-0 OR like 20-3-2 just to get a playoff spot. remotely possible yes, likeley not.

  46. Doodie Machetto on

    stuart, I don’t know, sure looked like they could pass to me. They carved up the Rangers through the neutral zone and had extended possessions in the offensive zone based purely on passing.

    It seemed to me that the Kings’ offensive depth is their weakness. A lot of top-end talent without much to back it up.

  47. Doodie Machetto on

    Jay, I’m with you. I don’t think they make it. I was just saying that if I’m the #1 or #2 seed, I’d be very nervous if they squeezed in as 7 or 8.

  48. I laughed out loud this morning when I remembered Jack Johnson face washing Stepan. You guys see that early on? Dont get me wrong, I dig Stepan in a major way…. BUT, I was cracking up as Jack Johnson man-handled his face by aggressive application of the palm. It was classic. I’d like to see Boyle begin to deploy that tactic. Or maybe Aves on Fatso one of these games (sorry fatso, not tonight).

  49. JBytes, so you’re saying “Yes” to my question? You would have been unhappy with the way they played last night if they’d lost the skills competition?

  50. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    no one else thought that goal went in off of AA’s stick? Ok, guess I’m waaaayy off.

  51. Jay, I don’t think you’ll need 92 points to make the playoffs this year. The Rangers are on pace for about 92 points and that’s factoring their nasty slide of 1 out of 12 points. The 8th and 9th place teams are pace for only about 88. They could get warm (not hot) as well and hit 92, but I’d be surprised if it takes more than 90 points to make the 8th seed.

  52. CTB – Good point. I don’t really know how to figure that cutoff. Going by the last few seasons, its been around 91-93. The numbers look lower this year but the push is on with Buff, Car, ATL so it may go a few points higher in the next few weeks.

  53. I thought hockey was played with a puck. but apparently hockey is played with a ball, because Torts kept referring to the “balls”. next thing you know they will be playing hockey with cojones. follow the bouncing ball. plural. and it all ends when they raise a cup. how appropriate

  54. Carp, then the shootout, or skills comp as you call it derisively, is a good thing if it means that teams keep a skill guy on the bench instead of a goon. and you are right. I foresee more teams doing exactly that in the near future, as the goon has lost some of its luster this season, and the shootout has become so vital with such close playoff point races.

  55. After last nights game it’s hard to argue that the Rangers v the Kings wouldnt make for a really fun winter classic

  56. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    nyr
    well, don’t i feel like a frakking assen hole. Didn’t know they changed it, my bad!

  57. looks like the Kaberle deal to Boston is about to be complete. Tor will get the Bruins #1 pick and a top prospect Joe Colborne if Bob M has it right.

  58. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    thankfully to the bruins, puddin not coming here…SWEET!!!!

  59. czechthemout!!! on

    Other than Staal, the dman they can least afford to lose right now is Suaer.He has become that good!

  60. also, 2 more trades. Ott traded their goalie, Brian Elliot for the Avs goalie, Craig Anderson. and Ott also sent dirty pest J. Ruutu to Ana for a low pick

  61. Doodie Machetto on

    If that deal goes through, I have to give a big ‘ole “I told you so!” to everyone who doubted what I said the price would be for him. Granted, I said a first, a player, and a prospect, but I thought the player and prospect would both be middling (Campbell/Bartkowski is what I think I had suggested), but Coburne is even more valuable than both of those guys combined, so the spirit of what I was saying remains correct in that it would be very, VERY expensive to acquire him.

  62. Stranger Nation on

    Gilly and MDZ had only 2 or 3 shifts in 3rd and none in OT ( I believe). Will need more from them tonight on second of a back-to-back (again).

    Kings forwards looked very fast forechecking, but luckily not all played body. Rangers looked smaller as game went on. Vinny, EC and Wolski were being tossed around.

    If it wasn’t for the SO, EC would be playing in a beer league in Rochester, that or the Pens #2 center now.

    Hank seems to be fighting it big time. He had some spectacular saves (one on a breakaway and another on Kopitar blast from in front) but is having trouble on pucks coming thru traffic from point. Part of reason is now every Ranger is a part time goalie. We average one goal per game against off one of our own. Let the goalie save it guys. Leave the puck alone and go time up your man!!

    Rangers 3 Debbies 1

    Avery KO Clarkson 1st Round ;-)

  63. Rangers are 7-2 in the shootout. so is LA. just reverse those records to 2-7 and both those teams would be in far worse shape for the playoff race. shows you how important the shootout is.

  64. billybleedsblue on

    Carp, nice write-up, as always. I really like the Steve Larmer idea for Gabby.

    CT nice link to a funny blog. Me likey.

    Marji, “Big game at the pebble tonight.” No doubt. I would think the impact of tonight’s outcome to be enormous. I’d like to see the Rangers get the puck deep on this team, and finish all of their checks. If they can do that all game, there will be 2 points for the good guys. LGR!

  65. Doddie “so I repeat” or @ least i’m thinking it. The Devils being a heavy fav to win the Cup if they make it makes me LOL! and just about everyone else on this board, leave it alone and will let this one slide. just plain insanity

  66. Doodie Machetto on

    hedberg, I doubt we will ever get to see who is right, because I doubt the Devils actually pull it off. But if they somehow do, we can revisit the issue then.

  67. what is disappointing is the fact that the nhl goalies, not all, but most of them, do not even spend the time looking at tapes to study the moves of their likely shootout opponents. guys are able to make the same move over and over again and easily beat a goalie who is simply not prepared because he did not do his homework.

    it is the same 3 guys most of the time, so the goalie would not have to do much studying to know what is coming. but instead we see guys who refuse to even let their goalie partner tell them of the shooter’s tendencies. sure, they will look bad if they guess wrong, but not as bad as they look now by letting the same exact moves that beat the last guy beat them, like they just did not care enough to do a little homework.

  68. Doodie Machetto on

    so, the guy I sit next to went to Casino Night and talked to Wolski for a little while. He told me that one of the things Wolski said to him was that he hated YouTube because now all of the goaltenders learned his moves that he had been doing while he was in Colorado.

    I think once a player gets a little notoriety with their shootout attempts, goaltenders catch on. Remember the stir up Jussi Jokinen caused a few years ago with his repeated use of the Forsberg move? He had to change it up after that because the goaltenders were all waiting for it.

  69. Doodie Machetto on

    “so, the guy I sit next to went to Casino Night and talked to Wolski for a little while. He told me that one of the things Wolski said to him was that he hated YouTube because now all of the goaltenders learned his moves that he had been doing while he was in Colorado.”

    Terrible pronoun usage. Let me try that again.

    The guy I sit next to went to Casino Night and talked to Wolski for a a little while. He told me that Wolski told him that Wolski hates YouTube because now all of the goaltenders have learned all of the moves that Wolski had been doing while Wolski was in Colorado.

  70. Doodie Machetto on

    Stranger, the link didn’t work but I assume it was the through the legs move. I think Malik couldn’t do it again because he just could never actually do that move again.

  71. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    so the new dumbass egyptian regime is already letting iranian warships pass through the suez canal, brilliant….JACKWAGONS!!!!

  72. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    wow, atl got better and boston got more physical on the blueline if he plays!!

    TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
    Not official yet, but BOS trading Wheeler and Stuart to ATL for Peverley and Valabik. Pending trade call.

  73. What if they played sudden-death 1-on-1 (plus goalies) instead of the shootout? Or just have the 2 goalies play against each other?

    :-P

  74. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    i think the two goalies should fight for the extra point…emery and johnson would be on everyone’s radar!

  75. Doodie Machetto on

    wicky, they would sit the bench until the 64th minute, then get subbed in for the fight.

  76. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    doodie
    skinny or bow? like best dressed to win the extra point? We got it made with hank then!

  77. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    I am soooo glad kaberle did not get traded to us, but sad we lose out on stuart and valabik and his big slow rough physical hard lefty shot!!

  78. Huge moves for Boston adding Kaberle and Peverley… If I was a Flyers fan I’d be freaking out.

  79. >>JBytes, so you’re saying “Yes” to my question?

    [Umm] “Yes”, I would have been unhappy that they lost.

  80. Doodie Machetto on

    wicky, Valabik kinda sucks. 80 games played, 0 goals, 7 assists. He doesn’t even throw that many hits. Just seems like Dale Purinton 2.0.

  81. Atl won that trade imo. Wheeler is much bigger, younger and tougher than Peverley. both have good skills, but Wheeler is more of a force, Peverley more of a finesse player. also, Stuart is a young vet dman who actually plays in the league, albeit a bottom pair guy. valabik is not even nhl calibre most of the time. sure he’s big, but that’s not enough. it is kind of a salary dump by the Bruins forced by the kaberle acquisition putting them over the cap

  82. Good afternoon all!

    Carp, this is was an all-time great write up today. grrrrrr to high school basketball!!

    jybtes: as per “No, Carp! You judge the whole freakin’ thing by the number of points you end up with. To players and fans, it makes no darn difference if those two points came after sixty minutes, sixty-five minutes, or the breakaway contest.”

    meh.

    Doodie: “What if they just had ties?”

    yea! just as long as they’re not like Torts’…….:)

  83. Peverley is nothing special, especially when he gets less icetime now that he’s on a better team.

  84. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    yes, def salary dump by bruins!

    doodie
    I know he isn’t anything close to being an all star, don’t think he is quite at the purinton level. I simply like him for one aspect of his game, in front of the crease…..a one dimensional player that I like for his one dimension!

  85. Rangers need to put a stop to the Debbies lil’ freight train tonight. these boring, trapping, no-fans kovalchokes need to get put in their place, which is as doormats for the superior team of the area, the NY Rangers.

    Avery needs to stir it up vs kovalchoke and fatso’s caddy

  86. Doodie You didnt tell me where you were sitting last night, it wouldve made my evening to meet you ! Soon enough tho

  87. Doodie Machetto on

    And I don’t think they needed to salary dump for Kaberle. Savard’s LTIR allows them to absorb Kaberle without a problem.

  88. Now youre starting to hurt my feelings but like I said SOON And with that I will conclude our discussion merely cause this Carp guy seems like a genuinely decent guy Oh and Doodie Ole you said so LOL YOURE SUCH A SUMMERS EVE

  89. Hi guys, long time since I last posted, lots has happened, some good some bad, but let’s not get into that. Was at the game last night, thanks to the contest we had here a few weeks back, thanks to the donor once again! hope Carp sent you my gratitude. went with my son, his first game, and he loved it! fantastic game, great crowd, always a handful of people that get on your nerves by yelling idiotic stuff, i think they are worthy of being called Carcilloheads. all in all had a marvelous time, and the moves in the SO were crazy, at least from my angle. everyone on their feet the entire SO, chanting WOLSKI WOLSKI, HENRIK HENRIK, was great! and im glad AA is ok because when he got hurt i honestly thought he was done for the year, he could barely stand while being helped off by 2 teammates. hope we win tonight!

  90. Lev – good for you. Nothing like that first game with a little one. I’ll never forget my son’s first game – we were lucky to be down in sec. 119 – great seats.

  91. Hedberg starts tonight with uncle daddy as the backup. It would be great to knock hedberg out with a couple quick goals and then absolutley shell Martina.

  92. Avery better be careful in choosing his battles. Clarkson looked like he was going to detroy him last game. You know those two will be in each other faces tonight!

    I’ll take MZA on my fourth line over any “enforcer” or “tough guy”…

    MZA should fight Tennenby just for the heck of it. What a good matchup! It would be a featherweight battle!

  93. I was half-kidding, Orr. But, he sure plays with some grit and toughness for a miniature guy…

    I would never want to see him get hurt in a fight. Same goes for any of our skill players. Even Pruster should calm down a bit and try to fight only when neccessary.

  94. Remember Two Things on

    Who are the Rangers best scrappers now? Fighting is less important than team toughness, but crunch time requires someone to stand up for Gabby, Vinny and others.

    Prust – good technique, smart and cagey, not a bomb thrower.

    Avery – Plays ring around the rosey and makes it an endurance battle.

    Boyle?
    Sauer?
    Girardi?
    Biron?

  95. Noah-tenko-rury, 28 on

    That episode is also where Dr. Van Nostrand makes a tremendous appearance.

    Kramer: Male mammal. Approximately 30 to 60 years of age. Weight…uh indeterminate. Ok, Mr. Kruger, we are gonna take a photo now for the records. So if you’ll stand up please and give me a big smile, oh no no no, not that big. Yeah, that’s nice, yes okay. Yes, let’s have a looksee…ok, so eh, fiber from shirt on the left shoulder. I’m gonna have to keep my on that.

    Kruger: How long have you been doing this Dr. Van Nostrand?

    Kramer: Uhh, long long time. Yes, I’ve seen moles so big they have their own moles. Freckles that cover two men.

  96. Doodie Machetto on

    that episode was a classic. Four story lines. Jerry with the dermatologist, George with his boss, Kramer with the slicer, Elaine with her neighbor’s cat.

  97. I think we have to give some credit to Sather here for showing some restraint IMO. None of the players who have been dealt in the past 2 weeks are worth a 1st rounder IMO.

    There will be deals to be made on deadline day that will help us this season and maybe beyond without sacrificing anything of the magnitude of a 1st rounder.

    I would only trade a first rounder in a deal for a new franchise player.

  98. Carp, Do you really think that if Torts did not call a timeout the Devils would not have scored?

  99. DJK, how often are franchise players traded these days? If you don’t think that anything worth a first rounder is getting moved for just that, then a guy that will substantially impact the team for now and in the future is going to cost a truckload.

  100. Doodie Machetto on

    DJK, while that’s fair, a franchise player costs more than one first rounder. Not every first rounder turns into a franchise player. You’re lucky if your first rounder turns into a player like Versteeg.

  101. Sather’s free agent signings are usually terrible but when it comes to making trades, he is the best in the business…

  102. I also think the trading of high picks is an indication that teams aren’t that sold on this year’s draft class. It think the 2003-2008 saw some of the best drafts in a while, 2009 was decent. Too early on 2010, but I’d say we’re probably in a bit of a down cycle for drafts much like the late mid to late 90’s.

  103. Stan

    I’ve made a study of that phenomenon which I labeled “the right back goal”.

    You would be surprised at how often all teams fall victim to this strange reality. It’s not only the Rangers. I do not know exactly what the cause is but I think that it may be psychological in nature. As you all know there’s always an enormous outpouring of joy at the scoring of any goal, and this exuberence may well lead to an
    unrealized physical and emotional let down for a few moments, which if the opposition retaliates immediately
    after can result in a score for them.

    If any team can be made aware of this likliehood, the coaches can instantly gather them while they are rejoicing and give them dire warning, “beware the right back goal!”

  104. correcting your own blunders by trade is not grounds for praise. why make the signing blunder in the first place??

    but also remember that he decimated a great team by unloading all their stars for little in return. a great team became a weak link in Edm. sure, that benefited the Rangers then, but he was not working for them, so his overall record of drafting and such is pathetic. he was the lucky early beneficiary of bankrupt WHA teams in Indy and Cincy basically handing him burgeoning young stars in Gretz and Mess

  105. nor should sather be praised for finally going with youth. it only took him 10 freakin years, a decade, to wise up.

  106. Boom Boom Bathgate on

    Carp –

    Do you see any chance, once Bettman’s goes, the league will kill the abominable shootout gimmick? Any Owners or GM’s on record as wanting that to happen?

  107. Question, did we put drury on LTIR?? I saw brooks said we had like 8.4 mil for trade deadline / rest of season (not summer cap)….carp? Nebody?

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