Kings at Rangers tonight


I’ll be headed down to MSG later on.

Here are tonight’s pre-game notes, courtesy of the Rangers:

Thursday, Feb. 17, 7:00 p.m.
Madison Square Garden • New York, NY
Rangers: 30-24-4 (64 pts)
Kings: 31-22-3 (65 pts)
* All information through NHL games on Feb. 15

The Rangers will face-off against the Los Angeles Kings at Madison Square Garden (7:00 p.m.), in the first game of a back-to-back set. The Blueshirts currently rank third in the Atlantic Division standings, and seventh in the Eastern Conference, with a record of 30-24-4 (64 pts). The Rangers enter the contest having defeated the Pittsburgh Penguins, 5-3, on Sunday at Madison Square Garden, to reach the 30-win plateau for the sixth consecutive season. The Kings have posted a record of 31-22-3 (65 pts) to rank 10th in the Western Conference entering their contest tonight at Columbus, and are now 4-0-2 on their current 10-game road trip. Following the contest, the Rangers will conclude their back-to-back set when they face-off against the New Jersey Devils on Friday, Feb. 18, at Prudential Center (7:00 p.m.), in an Atlantic Division match-up.


  • TV: MSG Network

6:30 p.m. – Rangers Pre-Game Show with Al Trautwig and Brian Leetch

7:00 p.m. – Rangers vs. Kings

Broadcasters: Sam Rosen (Play-By-Play), Joe Micheletti (Analyst), Al Trautwig, John Giannone and Brian Leetch (In-Game Reporters)

  • Radio: 1050 ESPN Radio and

6:30 p.m. – Rangers Pre-Game Show

7:00 p.m. – Rangers vs. Kings

Broadcasters: Kenny Albert (Play-By-Play), Dave Maloney (Analyst)


  • All-Time: 64-43-16-0 overall (36-18-6-0 at home, 28-25-10-0 on the road)
  • 2010-11: Tonight is the first and only meeting this season
  • Last Season: New York was 1-1-0 overall and 1-0-0 at Madison Square Garden, having won their only meeting at home, 4-2, on Oct. 14
  • The Rangers rank 25th with a 13-12-3 (29 pts) record at home; the Kings rank 17th with a 14-13-2 (30 pts) mark on the road
  • The Rangers are 2-0-0 vs. the Pacific Division; the Kings are 3-1-1 vs. the Atlantic Division
  • Henrik Lundqvist is 1-3-0 with a 3.03 goals against average in four career regular season appearances vs. Los Angeles; Martin Biron is 4-1-0-0 with a 2.04 goals against average and one shutout in six career regular season contests vs. the Kings
  • Marian Gaborik has registered a team-high, 18 goals and 28 points in 26 career regular season contests vs. Los Angeles
  • New York lists two former Kings on their roster: Sean Avery (2002-03 – 2006-07); Alex Frolov (2002-03 – 2009-10)
  • Los Angeles lists no former Rangers on their roster

The Blueshirts have posted a plus-nine rating on special teams (PPG+SHG minus PPGA+SHGA) this season, which ranks fifth in the league. The Rangers’ three power play goals vs. Pittsburgh on Sunday marked a season-high, and were the most by the Blueshirts since they tallied four on the man advantage vs. Washington on Feb. 4, 2010.

  • Power Play: The Rangers tallied three goals in six power play opportunities (9:43) on Sunday vs. Pittsburgh, and are now 7-34 (20.6%) with the man advantage in their last seven games. New York is tied for 22nd overall (35-211, 16.6%) and rank 16th at home (21-110, 19.1%). The Rangers are 2-9 (7:45) in five-on-three situations (last – 2/7 at DET), and 0-2 (2:23) when four-on-three (last – 12/3 vs. NYI). Shorthanded goals allowed (4): 11/20 at MIN (Cullen); 12/5 vs. OTT (Kelly); 1/2 at FLA (Weiss); 1/16 vs. PHI (Richards).
  • Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts surrendered one goal to the Penguins in six shorthanded situations (11:12) on Sunday at MSG, and have allowed only four power play goals against in the last 16 games (45-49, 91.8% over the span). New York ranks seventh overall (164-195, 84.1%) and eighth at home (73-85, 85.9%). The Rangers are 7-9 (6:45) in three-on-five situations (last – 2/3 vs. NJD), and 4-6 (2:41) when three-on-four (last – 11/15 at PIT). Shorthanded goals for (9): 10/9 at BUF (Dubinsky); 11/5 at NJD (Dubinsky); 11/15 at PIT (Staal); 11/24 at TBL (Boyle); 11/26 at FLA (Prust); 12/5 vs. OTT (Prust); 12/12 vs. WSH (Staal); 12/16 vs. PHX (Prust); 1/7 at DAL (Fedotenko).
  • Four-on-Four: New York did not skate in a four-on-four situation on Sunday vs. Pittsburgh, and are now plus-three in 45, four-on-four situations (90:57). Four-on-four goals for (5): 10/18 vs. COL (Frolov); 11/11 vs. BUF (Anisimov); 11/15 at PIT (Callahan); 12/12 vs. WSH (Callahan); 1/5 vs. CAR (Zuccarello). Four-on-four goals allowed (2): 10/15 vs. TOR (Kessel); 1/1 at TBL (Thompson).

New York has posted a record of 9-5-0 in 14 games vs. Western Conference opponents this season. Their nine wins are tied for first among Eastern Conference teams, while they rank second with 18 points and fourth with a .643 winning percentage vs. the West.

The Rangers will begin their 15th of 18 back-to-back sets tomorrow vs. Los Angeles. New York is 8-5-1 (2-1-0 at home, 6-4-1 on the road) in the first game of back-to-backs. The Blueshirts are 10-4-0 (4-2-0 at home, 6-2-0 on the road) in the second game this season, having out-scored their opponent, 39-24, in those games. Over the last two seasons, New York is 19-6-2 in the back-end of back-to-back sets, including an 8-3-1 mark at MSG and 11-3-1 on the road over the span.

Rangers’ forwards Ryan Callahan, Brandon Dubinsky and Vinny Prospal have each made strong returns since returning from injury earlier this month. Callahan has registered five points (four goals, one assist) in six games since returning from injury on Feb. 1 vs. Pittsburgh, following a 19-game hiatus due to a broken hand suffered on Dec. 15 at Pittsburgh. Dubinsky also returned on Feb. 1 after missing five games with a stress fracture on his left fibula, and has recorded four points (two goals, two assists) over the span. Prospal made his season debut on Feb. 3 vs. New Jersey after missing the first 53 games of the season with a knee injury, and has tallied three points (two goals, one assist) in five games. He is also tied for the team lead with 17 shots on goal since returning from injury.

New York has posted a record of 7-16-3 when trailing after the second period. The Rangers’ seven wins, 17 points and .269 winning percentage rank first in the NHL. The Blueshirts have out-shot their opponent, 103-47, in the third period of their last nine games.

The Rangers have registered five more wins and seven more points compared to last season through 58 games (25-26-7, 55 points in 2009-10), having tallied 13 more goals (162 this season, 149 last season) while allowing 18 fewer goals against (144 this season, 162 last season).  New York has also shown a four-goal improvement while shorthanded compared to 2009-10 (nine this season, five last season).

The Rangers lead the league in hits (1,645), are tied for first in shorthanded goals (nine), third in road wins (17), rank seventh in penalty killing (84.1%), eighth in goals against (144) and home penalty killing (85.9%), fifth in blocked shots (910), and rank eighth with a plus-18 goal differential.

The Blueshirts rank 12th in the league with a .536 winning percentage in one-goal games, posting a record of 15-9-4 in those contests. Their 28 one-goal games are tied for fourth in the NHL, and 15 wins are tied for sixth in the league. Fifteen of the Rangers’ last 20 games have been decided by one goal, including seven of their last nine home games.

The Rangers have had 17 different players credited with at least one game winning goal this season, which is the most in the NHL.

The Rangers have the sixth youngest team in the league with an average age of 26 years and 210 days, and the youngest defensive corp in the league with an average age of 24 years and 328 days. *based on NHL rosters on Jan. 11


  • New York has notched seven power play goals in the last seven games (7-34, 20.6% over the span)
  • The Rangers penalty kill has allowed only four power play goals against in the last 16 games (45-49, 91.8% over the span)
  • Marian Gaborik enters tonight’s contest with a three-game assist streak, and has recorded an assist in six of the last seven games (seven assists over the span); he has tallied 13 points (five goals, eight assists) in the last 11 games
  • Mats Zuccarello has registered 10 points (two goals, eight assists) in the last 13 games, including six assists in the last seven contests
  • Wojtek Wolski has recorded nine points (two goals, seven assists) in the last 12 games
  • Brandon Dubinsky enters tonight’s contest with a three-game scoring streak (two goals, one assist over the span)


  • Henrik Lundqvist: 1 win from 200 NHL career


  • Derek Boogaard (injured shoulder on Dec. 9) – 28
  • Alex Frolov (injured knee on Jan. 8, expected to be sidelined for the remainder of the season) – 15
  • Ruslan Fedotenko (shoulder separation on Jan. 19/appendectomy on Feb. 2, 3 weeks) – 10
  • Chris Drury (injured knee on Feb. 4, 6 weeks) – 4

Total Man-Games Lost: 218


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  1. Ducks sending two former Rangers back East. One for a 5th and one for a 7th and two years ago they were both parts of the Rangers team and Voros for half a year was getting top 9 minutes. Goes to show how much a team can change within a couple of years, keep the current core intact and wait for a couple of more high ceiling players to develop and I think we’ll be handsomely rewarded in a few seasons.

  2. HockeymanRangers on

    This may have been talked about already but Henrik in the pic below. HE REALLY LOOKS LIKE A KING. KING LUNDQVIST “HOW MAY WE SERVE YOU TODAY”.

  3. Remember Two Things on

    Need 4pts out of possible 6 in this stretch og 3 games, has to starts with win tonight.

    If mdz is back, can we consider mixing up pairings and having one of them play with girardi? Hard to have 2 young offensively minded Dmen together. Move McD or Sauer up with Staal and level out TOI.

  4. I think we would all love to have Mara back but Tortorella doesn’t like him for some reason…

    LB in the Post today said the Rangers are looking at trading for Filip Kuba from Ottawa whom was a Tortorella disciple on TB and he does have a rocket from the point and is a big dude. He has $3.7M cap hit next season though and his play has declined since he got to Ottawa. I’d tread with caution there.

  5. Carp or anyone ….Why is Eminger sitting. ?….was it a specific play or plays i didnt see..or is it just he wants other guys that he sees spart of the core to be there

  6. LB says a lot of things. He writes an article about how Sather has said he doesn’t want to move significant assets for marginal improvements, adding in his own 2 cents about preserving cap space for a run at Richards and then he basically contradicts himself with talking about trading for Kuba.

  7. Hammerhead,

    Not saying this why he’s sitting, but while Eminger over the course of the season has been stronger defensively than Del Zotto, he adds next to nothing on offense. The net result of the Rangers offense vs defense at even strength (basically plus/minus without factoring in shorthanded goals) is the same differential with either player.

  8. Atta boy, Tony! Ooops, that’s Carp’s line…

    Morning, ‘heads! How’s trading going? Any takers for Todd White?

  9. These games are always fun. Last game I remember Dustin Brown was throwing his body around like a kamikaze pilot probably had 8 huge hits.

    Keep your heads up kidz!


  10. Remember Two Things on

    CTB – my eyes hurt when reading that :-)

    Not sure I am reading the stats right, does it factor in strength of line as in Staal is up against opponent’s first line.

    Argument for more TOI for Gilly if these stats ring true

  11. Doodie Machetto on

    Carp, I may be at warmups tonight depending on whether my meeting runs long or not. I’ll let you know closer to the game, but if I am able to be there, will you be available?

  12. Yes, there are stats that are adjusted for quality of competition (Corsi Rel QoC). But Gilroy’s quality of competition and the shots attempts/on goal differential relative to that competition are the lowest on the team.

  13. “Brown would look good in blue…”

    Imagine a line with him and Cally. LIKE THE BASH BROTHERS FROM MIGHTY DUCKS 2!!!

  14. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    Morning ILB and all!!!

    RIP unlce Leo!!

    So everyone is talking about kreider, who from what I have seen (WJC) has serious wheels, but doesn’t really have any edge to his game and seems like more of a perimeter player. Is this accurate or is that just a poor sample set? Someone fill me in, just curious and thanks!

  15. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    i’m just full of questions today (up waaay too early). How about stuart or ference from boston? I think one of them might be a decent fit

  16. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    here is a twitter update on white for you..

    bigskyresort Big Sky Resort
    7″ of new snow!

    ooops, meant the WHITE stuff as in snow (for orr’s benefit there)!

  17. wicky,’s central scouting write up on Kreider:

    NHL Central Scouting’s Gary Eggleston
    “Chris is an excellent skater with explosive speed and acceleration. His short-distance speed is exceptional. He sees the play ahead of time and knows what he’s going to do with the puck as soon as he gets it. He is an excellent passer and playmaker. His foot speed, combined with his anticipation and quick stick, gives him the ability to create turnovers and gain puck possession. He is a constant threat to develop breakaways on the penalty-killing unit. He has both an excellent wrist and slap shot, which he disguises well and releases quickly. He can score goals in a number of ways.”

    Andover head coach Dean Boylan
    “The scouts who see him know what type of tremendous skills he has and he obviously has great physical strength, but he’s an absolutely great character kid. He’s a great kid off the ice, a presence in the locker room and a young man who is forever looking to get better. Character is important to me and Chris is at the top.”

  18. R.I.P. Uncle Leo

    Had another awesome night last night!

    NYRFan, the plunger is a plastic piece of carcillo. I waited for the super to come. Apologized profusely, told the very nice guy that I wouldnt be around much longer, so he wouldnt have to worry about that, to which he laughed.

    Went to a Buffalo Wild Wings place after, met this really really really awesome guy. The Knicks game had just ended so we were talking Knicks basketball. And I told him I was tired of all this Carmelo carcillo and I was upset that the Nuggets were not going to gift us Carmelo the way former Celtic McHale gifted Garnett from the TWolves to the Celtics. The guy LAUGHS, then says, I swear on my 3 puppies…..

    “Everyone wants NY to fail” When he said those words, i fell in love with the guy. Through extended conversation, he tried to get me to accept that things will never change and everyone is just jealous of New York. I responded by telling him Ill never accept unfairness and injustice.

    Anywho, the guy tells me that his girlfriend is daughter of Celtic Hall of Famer Nate Archibald and is a huge Celtics fan and lives and dies with them, so I got his number and told him Ill send him Game 7 of the 2010 NBA Finals on dvd so he can have it playing in the background to piss her off.

    The guy is also good friends with Kyrie Irving, which is so fuggin awesome. I love that kid. He gave me insight into Kyrie and what an extraordinary kid he is.

    Then he tells me that some of the Knicks live right across the street and often frequent the Buffalo WIld WIngs.

    Knicks won at MSG last night, and Landry Fields showed up. Asked (even though I already knew) if it was him, asked to shake his hand, and told him the Knicks better not trade you in a deal for Carmelo, and he laughed. :)

  19. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    thanks. so he is more of a scoring threat guy than a power forward.

    not sure if they are going to move a dman at some point (rumours only) and stuart is the name that keeps getting thrown around FWIW.


  20. Good morning all!!!! So sad to hear about Uncle Leo :(

    Very happy it’s a game day, but I’ll be missing it due to previous appointment with artistic expression. I shall be here in spirit though. LGR!!!

  21. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    supposedly they will move a dman if this comes to fruition……

    DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
    Kaberle closer to becoming a Bruin? Update at the top of the clock in The Dreger Report.

  22. wicky, I suppose so. Maybe he learns to use his size as a power forward. But if anything the team needs more pure goal scorers as is.

  23. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    getting painted nude again?? Lucky bastages!!

    how did the free lance interview go if I may ask in this public forum?

  24. GOALS for GAB-orik on

    And finally it’s a game day… 3 more days til i’m at MSG for Rangers vs. Flyers!

    My favorite obvious yet totally unneccessary sports quote of all time… “Usually the team that scores more wins”

    Can you tell me who said it?

  25. yes wicky, indeed. In fact, that’s how I make extra money to keep the cats in kibble :)

    interview went fine, thanks. If all goes well, I’ll start my project sometime next week or after.

  26. GOALS for GAB-orik on

    My new skates came yesterday! I’m excited to get back on the ice with the new hardware… NOT excited for the break in period. I was wearing them a bit last night… JEEZ it hurts. Gotta get them baked my next day off.

  27. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    yep need goal scoring for sure. I always hesitant with guys turning into “power forwards” or “physically intimidating” d men. If you have an edge to your game, it should be evident. Playing with a “mean streak” is something you just have and it isn’t really something you can acquire. A better shot or better skating can be developed. Edginess really can’t IMHO.

    I’m not saying all power forwards have to be nasty to play against, I just wish we would get a guy with size and scoring ability that actually has an edge to his game.

  28. “What kind of an idiot throws away a perfectly good watch?”

    RIP, Uncle Leo.

    Atta boy, Tony!

    Doodie, it’s possible, although I may no longer be able to get to the pressbox. Either tonight or Sunday they’re moving us to a new press work room, which is farther from the pressbox than the current one … so let me know if you’ll be there.

    Hammer, I don’t think Eminger’s been very good lately, and obviously Del Zotto’s development is more crucial to the organization, plus he adds some offensive potential (second PP unit, etc.). I have no problem with it. In fact, I think Del Zotto needs to play here and now.

    CTB, thanks for the migraine.

    Good morning, Sally!

  29. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    I may have mentioned this before here, but am I the only one that thinks the concussion issue has been more of a problem since the league went to the jagr type rules after the lock out? I mean there were still concussions before, but they seem way more prevalent now that the speed that is gained by the players on the ice is greater due to the lack of clutching and grabbing if you will.

    Just an opinion here.

  30. GOALS for GAB-orik on


    New press work room? Byfuglien.

    I’ll be there Sunday… if you can’t make it you can’t make it. I’ll post from my seat!

  31. GOALS for GAB-orik on

    I got Easton Stealth S9’s. I had Vapors, they were ok but the steel sucked.
    The new ones are sick, and crazy light. Can’t wait to try em out.

  32. I may have mentioned this before here, but am I the only one that thinks the concussion issue has been more of a problem since the league went to the jagr type rules after the lock out?


    wow wicky will find ANYTHING to blame Jagr! I bet that thing in Egypt was Jagr’s fault too :)

  33. billybleedsblue on

    wicky, that’s an interesting theory. Where can we gather data on that? Are there any numbers to support this idea? And could you isolate them to incidences involved in open-ice collisions (as opposed to along the boards)? Hmmm…

  34. Never tried the Eastons. I’ve had Bauers for a long time and got the Vapor X40s this fall (no way was I spending $500-$700 for the X50 for X60s).

    That was after having a pair of Bauer Supremes for about the last 14 years before that, skates today are unbelievably lighter, as are the single piece composite sticks.

  35. I think a lot of it has to do with the players getting bigger and faster. Maybe you can make the argument that the crackdown on clutch and grab opened up the game that allowed a faster pace. But I also think there’s been more of attention paid to head injuries than in years past. I don’t know if players like Lindros would have been allowed to come back as many times as they did. It’s probably a combination of a real increase in concussions and an increase in the diagnosis and reporting of such injuries.

  36. GOALS for GAB-orik on


    Yea, the S17 Easton’s are SICK, and have a white/silver pair that look awesome, but as you said, not spending $500 on skates… holy bryzgalov!

    I had a pair of CCM Tacks forever… those were bulletproof, and it seems the steel would never end… Didn’t have the same durability out of the Vapors, and as mentioned, the steel was awful. So i’m hoping these Eastons serve me well.

    I still have my Easton Synergy stick with the Gaborik curve (which of course they don’t make anymore and i can’t find!) that has lasted me at least 4 years. It’s a bit banged up, but holding on strong!

  37. I was a big Easton fan back in my days of playing organized hockey. I had a couple of their composite shafts, never really cared for their blades so I subbed in a Koho blade. Then during the 13 year break I took apparently better stuff came out.

    So when I got to buying new equipment, I picked up a RBK stick. Good feel, but it’s bit too whippy to get a good shot from it. When I got my new skates this year I got one of the Bauer Supreme sticks, not the pro level but I like the feel and it’s got the right amount of flex with the Kane blade. The top end Bauer stick, the one that Dubinsky uses is very nice.

  38. Lol, Tiki!

    Wick, you’re on fire today! Good discussion points…

    Don’t forget about Pat Lafontaine, concussions cut his HOF career way too short. Probably would have excelled in this era with his speed and vision. It is a much less physical game nowadays…

    “Hear Jeffrey’s favorite animal: the leopard. He likes the spots.”
    RIP, Uncle Leo.

  39. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    no idea really on finding all the info. Just an observation on my part. Just seems to be more prevalent like I said and the added “speed” without hinderance just seems logical to me in a collision sport to add to injury issues.

    you said you were bored last night so I was just trying to add some spice to the convo for you.

  40. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on


    FWIW, I like the ccm skates as well!

  41. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    the other thing, in my honest opinion, that adds to the injury total (not just concussions) is the stupid takedown that should be a major and game misconduct in a fight. I’m not just saying this because of boogey’s comments. I think next to a slew foot, it is unquestionably the dirtiest play in hockey. This isn’t the WWE, is a BS move regardless of who does it!

  42. GOALS for GAB-orik on

    I have a Bauer Vapor stick as well… i didn’t look at the flex well enough, and it flexes too much for my liking, though if i went for a stiffer flex i’d probably like it more. I’ve had easton sticks forever though… My earlier playing years i had the easton ultra light shaft, with the gretzky II blade. Had 2 of them in case one broke.. and some bastage stole both my sticks before one of my games, and i had to buy an emergency wood replacement. I was so upset they got stolen. since then, i never leave my sticks unattended.

  43. Re: Gary Roberts,

    I read, years ago, the sports doc he studied and trained under. They developed a system of working out, resting and nutritiion that rivaled steroid results….it was, and is amazing and not only gave Roberts a 2nd career in the NHL, but now has given him a new career guiding others.

    He was on the NHL channel yesterday stressing the importance of rest and recovery

    I wonder how much rest/recovery (with proper nutrition) some of our more social players get…

    I worry about Lundqvst, as well as MDZ (with possible Avery influence).

    I know that there are always genetic freaks who could eat cheeseburgers with beer and play hard on 2 hours sleep (Messier) but it is not the norm.

    I wonder if this is what bothers Torts about MDZ.

  44. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    I still prefer the wood sticks, most of the newer composites just flex too much for my liking. But I don’t use my sticks for shooting as much in the games as others so I’m probably in the minority.

  45. Wick, I think part of it is that there is a lack of respect between the players in the NHL after the lockout. Guys that claim to have an “edge” these days only look to make big crunching hits but not neccesarily to seperate the man from the puck. The point of these types of checks are to hurt the other player, and change momentum for your team, not to seperate the man from the puck. That is dangerous. It is checking for the sake of checking, that’s not what hockey is aboot.

    An “edge” used to mean that a player would play his game of hockey on the edge, always playing physical, where borderline penalities are frequent and that opponents would fear the player’s tenacity. It was not that you would target guys in vulnerable positions. That is cowardice, not hockey. To paraphrase Torts, where is the honor in that?

  46. GOALS for GAB-orik on


    During the season they have team nutritionists, strength trainers, the best docs and so forth. at least 8 months out of the year they have to be in top physical condition, and have access to the best medicines and healing agents… so even being more social than others, these guys are in top condition.

  47. Wickster is on fire indeed! And nothing is Jaromir’s fault! Everything is Zinedine Zidane Zizou’s fault!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im kidding, I love Zizou! ♥

    Gab – Im trying to make it to the game on Sunday or Warren to meet you. Ill let you know if Ill be able to.

  48. MDZ is a Roberts school of training student. He’s a young kid that’s making more money than he’s probably used to seeing (even at an entry level deal) and had a lot of success and praise lavished on him. I don’t attribute his slide this year as anything to do with his lack of physical fitness or preparation, but his mental approach.

  49. wicky, agree about the takedown move at the end of fights. It seems that players do it because they think it means they win the fight because of it. When it’s usually the guy that’s losing that has to resort to that move.

  50. Yea! I wanna go now!

    I mean they better start putting the mental effort in now so it’s never too early!

  51. there won’t be any fights allowed. they don’t want to damage the delicate sensibilities of that prissy goofball Maloney.

  52. CT

    HA! The new Superman does look (a little) like Dan G! Go Dan G! Save the World!

    Superman (Dan G): [Screams after being savagely beaten by pucks] I’m still Superman!

  53. Stranger Nation on

    Who needs Zherdev when you can have Frolov, I mean Wolski, I mean (substitute any Eatern European player with decent hands, OK size, and no heart)

  54. No ctb priobasbly going tio sundays game

    Willl try ti meet you carp duruing wasrmups.

    Staten. Island fewrry today asa suggested by our. Doodie

  55. substitute any Eatern European player with decent hands, OK size, and no heart


    Bure, Mogilny, Datsyuk, Ovechkin, Malkin, Fedorov, Larionov, Kamensky (before NYR days), Grabovski, Kulemin…just off of top of my head…. are these heartless players? Please, do not generalize.

    Niki Z is a lost cause… and it is sad to see that he still doe not get it.

  56. CT

    There are Russian kids named Erik… so it’ll be more like this – Erik Krishtensov


    i didn’t want to name any dman… but you can also put Fetisov (the best of all time), Zhitnik, Zubov, and list goes on… and that’s just Russian born (Eastern Euros) “heartless” players.

  57. and if by “any Eatern European player with decent hands, OK size, and no heart” he meant those who end up playing for the Rangers then yes…i can maybe understand…but to just say ANY is wrong.

    ok i’m done…i think

  58. hey gang!

    gorgeous day here in stl, 70 and sunny!

    cannot wait for the game tonght, these 3 day breaks are killing me

    NO to Kabele and Kuba, for jimmy crickets sake.

    ok, back to work now!

  59. Could be a goldmine CCCP. Maybe I’ll invent one and sell it to app store. Don’t dare steal my idea. In a race to the patent office I’d probably win because we all know you’d be soft and heartless ;)

  60. GOALS for GAB-orik on

    But once CCCP got his hands on the iphone with that app, he’d dazzle us with his skilled hands, and finger-handling ability. He’s got one of the fastest swiping fingers.

  61. Yeah but once he gets the big money from the app store he’ll get lazy and never update it past version 1.0

  62. you guys!! having fun at my expense?! it’s all good!

    but you’re probably right… on my way to the patent office i’ll probably disappear somewhere because of my “heartless” soul and “enigmatic” personality lol

  63. GOALS for GAB-orik on

    He’ll leave AT&T and go to Verizon… where he’ll star the first few weeks… than fall into his old habits. Probably blame the Carrier or the ‘system’.

  64. ….. any Eastern European player with decent hands, OK size, and no heart.

    Phill Kessel, Jason Spezza? Didn’t know Madison, Wisconsin or Mississauga, ON, were in Eastern Europe.

  65. And I’ll help CCCP with the app patent. Two heartless Eastern Europeans may actually get the job done. Eat your “strong” North American hearts out! :-))

  66. Of course they are, Orr. You should’ve at least waited til the end of the season, would look more legit…

  67. wicky(grating PIBG)© (The game’s not over until somebody cries!!) on

    you guys rock..

    off to work


    later assens!!

  68. I know you do, Orr. You need to wait for more new bloggers to pile up. It may work…:-) We know you too well.

    By the way, if they decide to buy him out after the season, They will save around $1.1M of cap space for 2011-12, 2012-13, 2013-14. But they will have to absorb $541K cap charge for 2014-15, 2015-16 and 2016-17.

  69. ilb, I’m moving to the head of the list right? I get an authentic Brad Richards jersey next year?

  70. Stranger Nation on

    The prior post being talked about Zherdev, Frolov and Wolski and players of that ilk – Eastern Euros with skills who don’t hit even though they have the size and the speed.

    Zherdev – (6’2″, 210 lbs) 47G: 20 PIMs, 32 hits

    Frolov – (6’2″, 210 lbs) 43G: 8 PIM, 39 hits

    Wolski – (6’3″, 215 lbs) 51G, 10 PIM, 39 hits

    These guys do not score enough to be only finesse players.

  71. GOALS for GAB-orik on

    Zherdev- 15 G 4 A
    Frolov- 7 G 9 A
    Wolski- 9 G 17 A (combined PHX and NYR)

    Zherdev>Frolov at least Zherdev can skate

    Wolski is an upgrade… i think he can be solid for us.

  72. Earlier in the season, several people mentioned trying for Kessel.

    Has anyone taken note of how, ah, remote, he has become? I’ve said ti’s easier to find Waldo than Kessel. What a shame. I don’t know if he’s hurt, or ill or just discouraged, but he is close to being the invisible man.

  73. The biggest knock on Kessel has always been whether he’s going to be there when the going gets rough. He’s got a lot of talent, but since he aired his dirty laundry about his ongoing feud with Ron Wilson out in public, he’s basically damaged his reputation for the foreseeable future. Of course if he was at the forefront of a Leaves revival and won a Cup then a lot would be forgiven. I somehow don’t see the latter happening.

  74. Boom Boom Bathgate on

    Jesus, I see Kuba is 34 friggin years old. You know what Sather’s problem is? He tries to win the Cup every G.D. year, even with teams that are rebuilding, even with this team which could actually win the Cup in two years, adding Krieder and one or two other system players, maybe Grachev and someone else, to the mix. One step forward and one step back, one step forward and one step back. It never ends. NEVER.

    This man just cannot exhibit any patience, whatsoever. He thinks signing this FA and signing that
    FA will win the Cup. He thinks renting guys like Backman and Antropov and Morris, et al, will win the Cup. He always thinks he is ONE move from winning the Cup. This man is S I C K! He is now going to undue some outstanding progress he has made and deserves credit for because he thinks 2013 will never arrive, that 2011 is his last chance to win it all. Just retire you moron. You build a team of young players and then break it down. You build a team of old FA’s who don’t pan out and panic. Clueless S.O.B. working for the only professional sports organization in the world that would put up with this constant back-tracking lack of focus and commitment to a long-range plan.

    What a perfect match, Sather and Dolan. They should move to Massachusetts or California and REALLY tie the knot, they are such a perfect pair.

  75. Gutless Euro (or CanadiPole) puke category:

    Frolov: 39 hits in 620 mins of TOI or one hit every 16 minutes
    Wolski: 16 hits in 235 mins of TOI or one hit every 15 minutes (as a Ranger)
    Zherdev: 32 hits in 586 mins of TOI or one hit every 18 minutes

    Tough Canadian farm boy category:

    Iginla: 83 hits in 1244 mins of TOI or one hit every 15 minutes
    Smyth: 19 hits in 1079 mins of TOI or one hit every 57 minutes
    Carter: 46 hits in 1029 mins of TOI or one hit every 22 minutes

    Obviously the hit statistic is pretty nebulous (especially the inflated numbers at MSG), but let’s not pretend a player’s size and nationality should determine how they should play.

  76. Bathgate,

    I think Kuba was more Larry Brooks speculation than anything. Which is funny considering Brooks wrote something the other day about how Sather himself said he wasn’t really considering moving any important assets for rentals or veterans.

    Many of the trades you referenced weren’t exactly giving up gems of the farm system. Probably the most ruinous was Antropov for a 2nd rounder pick, but in that same offseason he picked up Boyle. Backman was for late round pick and Morris was for Prucha/Dawes/Kalinin, two of whom aren’t even in the NHL anymore and Dawes has spent his fair share of time in the AHL since then. I’m not trying to defend the guy’s tenure in NY, but the past few years the trades they’ve made haven’t incurred long term damage on the organization. In fact if you net out some of his trades that have rid the team of Sather’s true weakness, FA signings, then the Rangers have typically come out ahead or at least broken even.

  77. Boom Boom Bathgate on

    Some good points you make, Blueshirt. Of course in renting players for draft picks you really don’t know the outcome, at the time. What I am primarily referring to is the self-defeating PHILOSOPHY of trying win the Cup with rentals, in exchange for young players or draft picks. I would actually have been ok with acquiring and resigning Antropov for a #2 draft pick, had we been able to, a real exception to my own philosophy. The idea of giving up so much long-term value for short-term gain when the team really has no chance to win the Cup, is crazy. Yet, Sather goes back to that well, time and time again. He does not learn from his own mistakes. Life punishes all of us for arrogance like that.

  78. Zipay just tweeted
    that a dozen scouts will be at tonight’s game

    could be as many to check out us
    as there are to check out kings players.

  79. hey Carp
    if you haven’t heard yet
    according to Zipay tweet
    here’s where you’ll be going

    Temporary digs on 3rd floor near old Play-by-Play Club

  80. update (for what it’s worth)

    stevezipay Steve Zipay
    Correction: 10 scouts: Wings, Yotes, Penguins, Canucks, Wild, Ducks, Bruins, Blue Jackets, Flames, Senators

  81. Stranger Nation on

    Thanks for making my point which is these guys need to add some grit to their game to be more complete players. They DO NOT SCORE enough goals to make it as finesse players, . If you want to wait for Wolski to develop, please do not take time from one of the players coming up who will have a career in the league.

    These guys score:
    Iginla – 25G
    Carter = 26G
    Smyth – 19G – not sure why you used him to make your case – he doesn’t hit anyone either.

    These players score:


    Nothing more frustrating than watching these guys not finish and not hit.

  82. I understand the concerns. I for one don’t think Sather is totally controlling the ship these days. Certainly not the draft and farm system. Although other an interesting review of the value of draft picks by a Leaves fan in the wake of the Versteeg trade ( shows that draft picks often times aren’t as costly as prospects.

    But every team that tries to ends up with rentals or finishing touches added throughout the year. The Wings picked up Brad Stuart, the Pens got Hossa one year, Kunitz and Hal Gill another. The Hawks and Flyers made smaller moves, but got guys like John Madden and Ian Laperierre for their “experience” in the previous off-season.

  83. I didn’t go out of my way to select Smyth or the others for any reason other than to illustrate that there are plenty of good ol’ Canadian boys who are 6-2 plus and don’t pile up 200 hits a year. I’m sure there are even one or two who don’t score that much either.

    I just wouldn’t describe them all as being “of that ilk” due to their passport (especially when one of those “Eastern Euros” is basically Canadian…)

  84. “Their ilk” was an operative word. It has very little to do with their blood or origin, that was our (LW3H and others) point.

  85. GOALS for GAB-orik on

    EC is still on our team? I guess if we don’t go to a shootout i don’t notice him. Weird.

  86. Doodie Machetto on

    Regarding the scouts:

    Yotes, Penguins, Canucks, Wild, Ducks, Bruins, Blue Jackets, Flames, Senators

    1) Wings play the Kings in 11 days.
    2) Yotes play the Kings in 14 days.
    3) Canucks play the Kings in a little over 2 weeks.
    4) Wild play the Kings in 7 days and Rangers in 14.
    5) Ducks play the kings in 6 days.
    6) Senators play the Rangers in 15 days.

    But as for the Penguins, Bruins, Blue Jackets, Flames, and still kinda the Senators, it is very interesting.

  87. I think they are all scouting the ice in MSG. The best in the league! They are trying to steal our recipe!

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