Devils-Rangers tonight


The Rangers recalled Jeremy Williams from Hartford today.

I’m guessing he would fill in for Brandon Prust. Still awaiting word on Prust’s status after he was hit in the eye inadvertently by Gregory Campbell’s stick in Boston. He reportedly flew home with the team last night, and I was just told that the Rangers won’t know about his availability until later.


Don’t have time or space to do a complete review of the Boston game.


1) After seeing Marc Staal’s goal in the preseason and the one last night, maybe they should try him in shootouts. Seriously. He’s got a long stick and pretty quick hands in tight. There’s obviously no rule that says goal scorers are good at shootouts (see: Jagr, Gaborik).

2) In total disagreement with the Hockey Night crew, and I get the feeling Ken Daneyko didn’t want to disagree too heatedly, but what Sean Avery did after the hit on Fedotenko was the right thing. And I’ll say this. It shouldn’t have been an instigator. Avery went and got in the guy’s face. But Avery’s gloves came off second.

3) I think Lundqvist is finding his game. Wonder if he starts tonight.


Here are tonight’s pre-game notes from the Rangers. Click “more” to read more.

Sunday, Oct. 24, 7:00 p.m.
Madison Square Garden | New York, NY
Rangers: 3-2-1 (7 pts)
Devils: 2-5-1 (5 pts)
* All information through NHL games on Oct. 23

The Rangers will face-off against their Atlantic Division rival, the New Jersey Devils, tonight at Madison Square Garden (7:00 p.m.), to close out their first of 18 back-to-back sets on the season. The Rangers enter tonight’s contest having defeated the Boston Bruins, 3-2, last night at TD Garden, and have now won each of their last two games to improve to 3-2-1 (7 pts) on the season. The Devils enter the contest with a 2-5-1 (5 pts) record, having lost to the Sabres, 6-1, last night at the Prudential Center. Following tonight’s contest, the Rangers return to action on Wednesday, Oct. 27, when they will face-off against the Atlanta Thrashers at Madison Square Garden (7:00 p.m.), in the second game of a three-game homestand.


*       TV: MSG Network
6:30 p.m. – Rangers Pre-Game Show with Al Trautwig
7:00 p.m. – Rangers vs. Devils
Broadcasters: John Giannone (Play-By-Play), Joe Micheletti (Analyst), Al Trautwig (In-Game Reporter)
*       Radio: 1050 ESPN Radio
6:30 p.m. – Rangers Pre-Game with Don LaGreca
7:00 p.m. – Rangers vs. Devils
Broadcasters: Don LaGreca (Play-By-Play), Dave Maloney (Analyst)


*       All-Time: The Rangers are 94-80-27-5 all-time against the Devils: 52-28-20-2 at home and 42-52-7-3 on the road.
*       2010-11: This is the first of six meetings between the Rangers and Devils this season, and the first of three meetings at Madison Square Garden.
*       Last Season: New York was 3-2-1 against New Jersey in 2009-10, including a 1-1-1 mark at Madison Square Garden. Three of their six meetings were decided by one goal, including two that required the shootout.
*       Henrik Lundqvist posted a record of 3-2-1 with a 2.45 goals against average and one shutout in six contests vs. New Jersey last season, and is now 18-7-5 with a 1.92 goals against average and four shutouts in 30 career regular season games against the Devils
*       Michael Del Zotto led the Rangers with four assists and five points in six games vs. the Devils last season
*       Ruslan Fedotenko has notched seven goals and 12 points in 43 career regular season contests vs. New Jersey; Dan Girardi has recorded nine assists in 23 career regular season games vs. the Devils
*       New York lists no former Devils on their roster
*       New Jersey lists no former Rangers on their roster


*       Power Play: The Rangers tallied one goal in six power play opportunities (10:14) last night at Boston, and now rank 20th in the NHL with a 12.0% (3-25) success rate. The Rangers did not convert on one five-on-three chance (0:30) on Oct. 9 at HSBC Arena, and are now 0-1 on five-on-three attempts (0:30). New York is 0-1 (1:05) with a four-on-three advantage this season. Shorthanded goals allowed (0).
*       Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts surrendered one goal to the Bruins in six shorthanded situations (9:19) last night at Boston, and are now tied for 25th in the NHL with a 76.7% (23-30) success rate. The Rangers yielded one goal to Boston in two three-on-five situations (2:02) last night at TD Garden, and are 2-4 on three-on-fives (3:47) this season. The Blueshirts yielded one goal in three, three-on-four situations on Oct. 15, and are now 2-3 (1:10) in those situations this season. Shorthanded goals for (1): 10/9 at BUF (Dubinsky).
*       Four-on-Four: New York did not skate in a four-on-four situation last night at Boston, and are now even in seven, four-on-four situations (11:19) this season. Four-on-four goals for (1): 10/18 vs. COL (Frolov). Four-on-four goals allowed (1): 10/15 vs. TOR (Kessel).

Tonight’s contest will close out the Rangers’ first of 18 back-to-back sets this season. Last season, New York posted a record of 9-2-2 in the second game of back-to-back sets, including a 4-1-1 mark when the second game of the set was at MSG.

…SINCE 2007-08
The Rangers own a record of 13-5-2 vs. the Devils since the start of the 2007-08 season, including a 7-2-1 mark at MSG during the stretch, dating back to a 2-0 win on Oct. 25, 2007. Henrik Lundqvist, who has started in each of the Rangers’ last 25 meetings with the Devils, has registered a 2.24 goals against average, .921 save percentage and four shutouts in the 20-game stretch.

Henrik Lundqvist has faced-off against Martin Brodeur in 26 career regular season contests, posting a record of 17-4-5 with a 1.75 goals against average, .937 save percentage and four shutouts over the span.

The Rangers have tallied back-to-back goals in 61 seconds or less of the first period in each of the last two games. On Thursday at Toronto, Ruslan Fedotenko opened the game’s scoring at 16:11 of the first period, followed by Artem Anisimov’s goal, the eventual game winner, 61 seconds later. Last night at Boston, Anisimov notched the game’s first goal on the power play at 11:34 of the first, before Alex Frolov gave the Rangers a two-goal lead just 27 seconds later at 12:01 of the opening frame.

Rookie Derek Stepan (three goals) and Alex Frolov (one assist) both registered their first point as a Ranger in the 6-3 season-opening win on Oct. 9 at Buffalo. Three new Blueshirts tallied their first point as a Ranger in home opener on Oct. 15 vs. Toronto, with Ruslan Fedotenko, Derek Boogaard and Steve Eminger each recording one assist in the contest. In addition, Sean Avery registered two assists in the game to record his 100th point as a Ranger. On Monday vs. Colorado, Frolov notched his first goal as a Ranger with a four-on-four tally assisted by Stepan, who picked up his first career assist on the play. Fedotenko tallied his first goal as a Ranger to open the game’s scoring on Thursday at Toronto, and Martin Biron backstopped the Blueshirts to a 2-1 win in the contest with a 24-save performance to record his first win as a Ranger in his first appearance with the team.

Based on opening day rosters, the Rangers have the ninth youngest team in the NHL with an average age of 27 years and 44 days, and the second youngest defensive corp in the league, trailing only Los Angeles with an average age of 25 years and 51 days.

The Rangers have had seven new players dress so far this season: Martin Biron, Derek Boogaard, Steve Eminger, Ruslan Fedotenko, Alex Frolov, and Derek Stepan each skated in the season opener on Oct. 9 at Buffalo. Todd White made his Rangers debut on Monday vs. Colorado at Madison Square Garden, and Biron saw his first game action with a 24-save effort in a 2-1 win on Thursday at Toronto.


*       Entering the season, the Rangers have posted a record of 276-266-90 all-time in the month of October, including a 175-114-47 mark at home and a 101-152-43 record on the road. New York is scheduled to play 10 games during the season’s opening month in 2010-11, with five games being contested at MSG and five scheduled on the road.
*       Legendary Rangers’ defenseman Brian Leetch holds the franchise record for most points in the month of October, having registered 43 goals and 130 assists for 173 career points in the season’s opening month.
*       The Blueshirts’ all-time leader for most career wins in the month of October is Mike Richter, who registered 40 career wins during the season’s opening month.
*       Last season, New York tied the franchise record for longest winning streak in the month of October, winning seven consecutive games from Oct. 3, 2009 vs. Ottawa to Oct. 17, 2009 at Toronto. The Rangers also won seven straight October games in 1988-89, beginning on Oct. 16 vs. Vancouver and ending on Oct. 30 vs. Pittsburgh. Their seven-game winning streak last season was also the team’s longest since they won seven straight from Feb. 1, 2006 vs. Pittsburgh to Mar. 2, 2006 at Philadelphia.


*       None


*       Derek Stepan: 1st career NHL game and 1st career NHL goal/point (10/9 at BUF)
*       Derek Stepan: 1st career NHL assist (10/18 vs. COL)
*       Michael Sauer: 1st career NHL assist/point (10/23 at BOS)
*       Ryan Callahan: 100th career NHL point (10/23 at BOS)


*       Vinny Prospal (IR on Sept. 24/knee surgery on Oct. 18, 6-8 weeks) – 6
*       Marian Gaborik (IR – separated shoulder on Oct. 15, 2-4 weeks) – 3
*       Chris Drury (IR – fractured finger on Oct. 15, 6 weeks) – 3

Total Man-Games Lost: 15


*       Oct. 13: Assigned forward Tim Kennedy to Hartford
*       Oct. 24: Recalled forward Jeremy Williams from Hartford

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  1. Gift of GAB-orik on

    I agree 100% in regards to Avery. It was absolutely the right thing to do, and Avery is showing he’s willing to go to battle for his team and his linemates. Avery IMO has always been a good teammate in NY, and hasn’t shyed away from getting his hands dirty when he needs to.

  2. good day all! 3-1 on the road-its just a funny game…team looks like a whole different squad on the road…i dont know if they just think they can show up at home and just expect to win but whatever the pre game motivation is at home needs to change asap….things could be worse i guess maclean benching ILYA!!!!!!!

    speaking of hockey night live, i think everyone but pidto took the rypien incident way to lite…it is 2010 and it is no longer 1970….rypien has to control himself as the pro athlete and cannot cross that line…it today;s era the victim is 100% correct-if that happened in the office rypien would be GONZO… more yankee noise its time to focus on the TRUE BLUE RANGERS…LETS GO RANGERS

  3. It was Avery’s game. Boston came out much better than Toronto did, the Rangers looked good too. It was anyone’s game. Until Stuart caught Feditenko with that hit. I think it was a clean hit, even though he did got his head a bit. Regardless, Avery jumped in without any hesitations, the Rangers made sure they killed the penalty ( in fact, more often than not, those types of penalties are killed ), and they totally took over the game. That’s exactly what needs to be done. Prust did the same after Lucic’ hit. The took care of business. They will not be pushed around this year. Thornton has guts, his team was down and he challenged Boogart. But give me ( and Boogart ) a break. Thornton was holding on to Boogie’s chest, he almost looked he was trying to breastfeed lol. Hope Prust is ok. I will be very surprised if he is back tonight, even it’s not his eye- this thing will be swollen. Prust is emerging like a very good player and an excellent leader.

    Frolov is still trying to find his place, despite that peculiar goal. Well, he went to the net. How do you like our new first line? CAB line, perhaps? If they could only score a few more.

    Sauer is certainly moving up. He now is starting to get involved offensively a bit more, and still doesn’t lose his position. The whole defense, as a group, looks much better. Roszival had as many good plays as he had brain cramps. Somebody earlier was talking about Staal not ranking too high on Las Vegas list. I don’t think I want comment on that at all, because it may not come out right.. Have we forgotten who he plays against night in and night out? Or have we forgotten his age? How about a pretty nice looking GWG last night?

    I wanted to mention Stepan separately because I felt this was his second best game after Bufallo. He was seeing the ice very well and his positioning during defensive coverage was almost immaculate.

    Folks, I know it’s early, but it looks like we’ve got ourselves a TEAM.

  4. Good point Carp, he moved towards Stewart who actually dropped the gloves first. Regardless, I still believe that the Rangers tok the game over right after.

    And, yeah, good morning, boneheads!

  5. LindaCalPrustBoylahan on

    ilb, i like when the guys stick up for each other. clean hit or not, its just nice to see them sticking up for each other, that’s what TEAMS do. I like what we’re starting to see with our boys. it seems that they are coming together and possibly forging an identity.

  6. morning guys. let’s all will the rangers to win tonight for our favorite Mama. this is her first live game in a long time, and we want her to see a thrilling rangers victory. also, if we see a 26 year old lady run on the ice and hug 16, we’ll know it is her.

    on another note, anyone hear about that sicko yankees fan that ran on the field to attack AROD at the stadium with pictures of cameron diaz? well, i dont know what his reasoning was, but if that was me, i would have run to AROD and asked him to get kate hudson back. i love diaz, dont get me wrong, but AROD really struggled and kate hudson could only have helped.

  7. *Prust UPDATE*

    Jeremy Williams Called Up
    With this injury to Brandon Prust last night on the high stick over his eye the Rangers have called up Jeremy Williams as an insurance policy. Prust has not been ruled out of the game so this only in event Prust cannot go.

  8. LindaCalPrustBoylahan on

    WELCOME HOME CR!!! took a few special pics at the Havoc game last night for ya! Gonna download them in a bit and post em up.

  9. Czechthemout!!!! on

    Avery is a team player. Always has been in NY.

    Rypien is a punk! If he had done that to me, let’s just say there would be a very story to read about.

  10. Kevin over at the NY Rangers blog has a report that Prust should be OK to go tonight. I hope so because he is one gritty player that gives his all every game.

  11. Czechthemout!!!! on

    Good I hope prust can . They could than scratch White who has no business being on the ice at all.

    Non eklund rumor going around that Spezza (scratched 2 straight) is only drawing limited interest. Our dope gm is one of a few that is poking around.


  12. Welcome back, CR! Sorry about the Yankees.

    Can anyone send LB some Imodium? He clearly has a case of verbal diarrhea this am:

    Seriously, this is a very good take on the future of hockey. If Fuhr is at the helm, and Bettman agrees to the system somewhat similar to MLB, the whole NHL will benefit, and so will most of the big market teams. Including, and especially the Rangers.

  13. Czechthemout!!!! on

    I think Spezza makes $8m per . Would have to dump blowzy,white to make it addition it would cost a young d propect and a number one pick.

  14. Repost after a good Carping…

    LindaCalPrustBoylahan, thanks. I forgot to mention another vital ingredient which is a coach that can teach and motivate. I see a different approach by our coach this year. He’s more positive and I think our team is listening and believing in themselves this year as opposed to last year when they tuned him out and played as a disjointed group of individuals.

    Mama, of course. Forgive my oversight? I’ll empty the litterbox as a way of making amends.

    ilb2001 , like your post. I’m praying that tonight’s game is a step forward and not back after two solid wins. Yes, these guys appear to be growing into a team. On the offensive side we’ve got Avery, Boyle, Cally, Dubi and Prust showing some leadership qualities. I don’t see a clear leader on the defensive side but if I had to pick someone it would be Girardi. He’s been more aggressive and physical as well as putting the puck to the net when the opportunity has presented itself. A good indication of the change we’re seeing within this team is Rozival with several attempted shots last night. Will wonders never cease?

    The Rangers have to realize they’re playing a very dangerous team tonight. The Devils are an angry and desperate team. They’re going to come out very hard and I suspect the Rangers will have to survive an onslaught in the first ten minutes. We need to play as we have for the past two games and break their fragile confidence. The first period is all about winning the psychological battle more than anything.

  15. thanks ilb, that means a lot to me. maybe the rangers will win the cup this year to make up for it. you’re absolutely right, these rangers look like a TEAM; a team willing to go to battle each night for one another.

  16. Czech- Spezza is making $8M, but his cap hit is $7M. With a couple of $1.5-$2M salaries going to Ottawa, coupled with White and Eminger going to AHL, they can fit him under without dumping Roszival. I posted that calculation a couple of days back, but am too lazy to do it again now, sorry.

  17. The Devils will have a lot to prove tonight. They will come out swinging for sure. But if the Rangers take care of business early, it will be fun game to watch. And, if that’s the case, Boogart will see a lot of ice time.

    I sense some serious discord between Kovalchuk and McLean. Kovalchuk will come out with a lot to prove tonight. Well, I hope Avery didn’t clean his mouth this morning….

  18. Devils are wounded beast, hence very dangerous. Only two way out of that – or you kill’em as fast as possible, (getting 2 quick goals, and 2 quick fights, as it becomes habitual in last 2 games for Rangers), or being killed. First period will be crucial for both teams. If my hatred for Debbies could be a factor …10:0 score wouldn’t be enough, as well as busy Trauma Center working on at least half of their team tonight.

  19. wicky© (Our D is a bunch of poussins and belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    morning ILB and all!!

    welcome back!!!

    The only thing that bothers me about sauer is the lack (it seems to me anyhow) of an edge/ruggedness to his game. When he was in the minors a lot of people used to say bring sauer up he is a tough d man. I just haven’t seen it, and didn’t see it in the preseason either. It could be the accumulated injuries of his have changed his style or maybe he is still “finding his game”.

    Either way he has made less mistakes than most of our other d men albeit in the least amount of ice time.

    At this point love the way we have played the last couple of games, so LGR!!!!

  20. if avery deserved the instigator so did thornton who totally stalked boogard for that fight.

    rangers got weak goals but generally speaking played good and tough.
    the stupid penalties ie staal and dubi slashes will kill.

    anisimov is a good smart player……….

  21. wicky© (Our D is a bunch of poussins and belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    We haven’t been good at home lately and the devs are having issues and dangerous!! I hope we play the exact same way as the last couple of games!

  22. Wicky-I think Sauer is afraid to be out of position, that’s why he isn’t looking to hit. Once he feels more secure in terms of being in the lineup every day, he will bring it on. Just my opinion.

  23. ilb – saw your note on P&C. please post ur puppy pics on FB, id love to see them. also, we’re still waiting on the New Zealands animal pics.

    See you all later during game time. Have a great time Mama & trs.

  24. The D is much improved with the benching, hopefully forever, of Eminger. Nice to know the Rangers have two more kids at Hartford who can start making a contribution, soon as they are called upon.

    Rozsival is getting far too many minutes, like he is Bobby Orr or somebody. 27 minutes vs. Boston? It is ridiculous, on his best night he plays at a mediocre level. What is Torts’ fascination with this journeyman?

  25. For those who took the time to respond to my linear weights Ranger D player values, I posted in the previous post, I just put a response at that same place. Thanks for your input, much appreciated, and valid too.

  26. Good afternoon, Carp!

    I hope Prust’s okay. Stick to the eye doesn’t sound like any fun.

    I’m not in the best shape either after an unfortunate accident playing the Bull Game… my target moved and I cracked my noggin right into the corner of a door frame. Also, pickle juice and tequila is NOT a good mix. Anyways, lets go Rangers!!!

  27. Feel better, Sally! Are you sure you actually hit your head? I think pickle juice and tequila itself could do enough damage.

  28. Czech, after all these years I have learned not to sniff out rumors out of Ottawa or Toronto. So, no. Why would you get back into cap hell for Spezza?

    Good afternoon, Sally, 26!

    Pickle juice and tequila, I believe, is the American Medical Association’s suggested mode of treatment for possible concussions. Or maybe the cause?

  29. Can’t find any articles that explain more on that recent debacle. But if it is about power struggle, McLean will have a lot of free time to handpick the bird for his Thanksgiving Dinner.

    Something tells me that tonight Avery will offer his expert fashion advice to Kovalchuk in order to pick a proper suit to sit in the stands… If Kovalchuk plays tonight, that is…

  30. Crystal Water
    Intersting numbers on an admittedly very small sample size. I know that in baseball there are some teams that rely heavily on such metrics to make player decisions, but in hockey I prefer to trust the coaches who are at the games and then break down the player performances on tape extensively to judge effectiveness. I noticed that last night at crunch time ( 1 goal lead with 1 minute to go) Coach Sullivan had Staal and Roszival on the ice so these are the D men that he seems to trust the most.

  31. wicky© (Our D is a bunch of poussins and belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    ILB or CCCP
    have either of you seen the movie the 9th company???

  32. wicky© (Our D is a bunch of poussins and belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    just picked it up….looks fantastic!

  33. ilb2001

    You have to realize that I read many of these posts after just having awakened and in my befuddled state after spending so many waking hours awake while others mercifully sleep, is why you see so many mid night to morn entries on my behalf. Yep that’s the way it is with us owls.

    So it was that i slipped right over that crack of yours that he “looked like he was breast feeding”
    ….you shouldn’t do that when we are drinking coffee…it doesn’t go down right.

    Any time that tbw comes in and asks me if I’m all right, I know that I have been loudly strangling in my java. I didn’t bother to explain the reason for my mishap for she’d no doubt called 911 on me.

    Just a simple nod of the head was all I could afford without cracking up again.

  34. Let’s see, MacLean messes with Kovalchuk’s head and then sends him to MSG to face Avery. Kovalchuk either scores 5 or gets fitted for a straitjacket tonight.

    Over/under on Clarkson penalties set at 4

  35. Good Hockey afternoon everyone!!!

    ILB great post and I couldnt agree with your more. Avery shouldnt have received the instigator. This is what is wrong with the league, they need to drop the instigator penalty.

    Devils have ALOT to prove. Kovy is going to come out like a man possessed.

    Sis I would bench LQ if I were you LOL

    Im calling Kovy with 2 goals tonight. Rangers win 4-3.

  36. LindaCalPruBoylahan on

    LMAO BRO!!! i’ve been thinking about it, but I’m gonna show confidence in the big man!! He ALWAYS does well against the devils, so I’m expecting a great showing by LQ tonight!!!

    HeaveHo, another excellent post! KEEP EM COMING!!

    Sally, pickle juice and tequila… you must have an iron constitutional lol!

  37. LOL I know he does. And I love it when beats them!!!!!

    Avery will have his hands full tonight with Fatso and Kovy. If he gets both of their game, its a sure win ;)

  38. Sally nothing better than “dirty tequila” ;)

    however Jager and redbull with a dash of black haus is fantastic !

  39. Do you really believe that MacLean made that decision to sit Kovachuk on his own? A few games into his rookie season as a coach? Without talking to Lou first? Something is very wrong there, folks.

  40. Ilb –
    Off of twitter


    MacLean vs Kovalchuk: The answer both short-term and long-term could hinge on whether Devils beat Rangers tonight at MSG.
    about 5 hours ago via web

    Devils’ Wall of Silence only serving to make situation worse 4 all by inviting wild speculation. Impossible to judge until facts are known.

  41. Kovy seems to me like someone who would be guilty of insubordination. I think that’s what happened. His mouth probably got him in trouble.

  42. Thanks MAO!
    Dang ilb, I hadn’t thought of that! I should, but sadly, it doesn’t go with my 16-luring ensemble :) next time….

  43. wicky© (Our D is a bunch of poussins and belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    boneheads t all the way…go mama!!!

  44. I’d bring it to hold up for the cameras, but if I lose it I’ll be firetrucking mad. next time, I swear.

  45. OK all, gotta catch a cab to the train to the game (mama never crackberries while warrening :)

    please please please win for me tonight boys! You all have fun here….look for the fabu woman two rows behind hank’s left if you wanna see me going nutso :)


  46. We’ll find out tonight how Kovalchuk really feels about his coach. He’ll either score five points and make him look like a genius, or will hardly show up in an attempt to get him fired.

  47. yes Carp,
    been saying that for a long time
    in regards to scorers and shootouts

    did not have a problem when Jagr opted out of
    the talent contest.
    like Dirty Harry said
    a man’s got to know his limitations….

  48. As much as I despise Kovalsuck, all I know about him tells, that this egomaniac just can’t learn anything physiologically; he believes always that he is a hockey God and has to be treated accordingly. So, if he plays today (and I believe he certainly will), he most likely will be his routine self, except looking a little bit more defensively over his shoulder. He became quintessential devil, literally and figuratively and epitomizes this stinking swamp’s organization pretty well. Arggghhh!

  49. [Keeping tab on former Rangers]

    – Nikolai Zherdev was finally told he had to speak to the media in Philadelphia and not duck interviews or hide behind a translator. Zherdev came out of a meeting with GM Paul Holmgren saying he would talk to everybody “but the Russian reporter” and he pointed at writer Tim Panaccio. When told Panaccio was Italian, through and through, Zherdev shrugged. “Well, he looks like he’s in the Russian mob.”

  50. MickeyM really likes the second line on

    Hey all

    Please no Kovalchuk tonight. I have a feeling that if he did, he’ll be flying out there. Granted he could be flying looking for Avery in order to kill him. If that is the case, then I’m all for it.

    Sure would be nice to grab an early big lead and then throttle them.

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