First busy week of the season

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It starts tonight with the Avalanches (WARNING, WARNING: IT’S A VERSUS GAME; the good news is that Sam Rosen does play-by-play), then road games in Tor0nto Thursday and Boston Saturday, and a homer with the Devils on Sunday.

I’ll be at the two home games.

Here are tonight’s game notes from the Rangers. To read more, click “more.” Duh.

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NEW YORK RANGERS vs. COLORADO AVALANCHE
Monday, Oct. 18, 7:00 p.m.
Madison Square Garden . New York, NY
Rangers: 1-1-1 (3 pts)
Avalanche: 3-2-0 (6 pts)
* All information through NHL games on Oct. 16

TONIGHT’S GAME:
The Rangers will face-off against the Colorado Avalanche at Madison Square Garden (7:00 p.m.), in their first match-up against a Western Conference opponent this season. The Rangers enter tomorrow’s contest having been defeated by the Toronto Maple Leafs, 4-3, in overtime on Friday at Madison Square Garden, in their 2010-11 regular season home opener. The Avalanche enter the contest with a 3-2-0 (6 pts) record, including a 2-2-0 mark on their current five-game road trip. Following tomorrow’s contest, the Rangers return to action on Thursday, Oct. 21, when they will face-off against the Toronto Maple Leafs at Air Canada Centre (7:00 p.m.), in an Original Six match-up.

BROADCAST INFORMATION:
*       TV: Versus
7:00 p.m. – Rangers vs. Avalanche
Broadcasters: Sam Rosen (Play-By-Play), Darren Eliot (Analyst), Bob Harwood (In-Game Reporter)
*       Radio: 970 The Apple
6:30 p.m. – Rangers Pre-Game with Kenny Albert
7:00 p.m. – Rangers vs. Avalanche
Broadcasters: Kenny Albert (Play-By-Play), Dave Maloney (Analyst)

RANGERS vs. AVALANCHE:
*       All-Time: The Rangers are 34-28-7-4 all-time against the Avalanche: 20-10-4-2 at home and 14-18-3-2 on the road.
*       2010-11: This is the first of two meetings between the Rangers and Avalanche this season, and the only meeting at Madison Square Garden.
*       Last Season: New York was 1-0-0 against the Avalanche in 2009-10, winning their only meeting, 3-1, at Colorado on Jan. 31. Marian Gaborik tallied all three New York goals to record his first hat trick as a Ranger.
*       The Rangers have won their last two games against the Avalanche, out-scoring Colorado, 9-2, over the span
*       Henrik Lundqvist has posted a record of 1-0-1 with a 2.48 goals against average in two career regular season appearances vs. the Avalanche; Martin Biron is 5-4-0 with a 2.76 goals against average in nine career regular season contests vs. Colorado
*       Marian Gaborik led the Rangers in scoring with three goals in one game vs. the Avalanche last season; Marc Staal and Vinny Prospal each tallied a team-high, two assists in last season’s meeting vs. Colorado
*       Staal’s two assists in last season’s meeting vs. the Avalanche marked a career-high for most assists in a single game
*       Marian Gaborik has tallied a team-high, 19 goals and 34 points in 39 career regular season contests vs. Colorado; Alex Frolov has registered 12 assists and 18 points in 24 career regular season games vs. the Avalanche
*       New York lists one former Avalanche on their roster: Chris Drury (1998-99 – 2001-02)
*       Colorado lists no former Rangers on their roster

SPECIAL TEAMS:
*       Power Play: The Rangers did not convert in five power play opportunities (9:10) on Friday vs. Toronto, and are now tied for 13th in the NHL with a 16.7% (2-12) success rate. The Rangers did not convert on one five-on-three chance (0:30) on Oct. 9 at HSBC Arena, and are now 0-1 on five-on-three attempts (0:30). New York is 0-1 (1:05) with a four-on-three advantage this season. Shorthanded goals allowed (0).
*       Penalty Killing: The Blueshirts surrendered one goal in seven shorthanded situations (10:19) to the Maple Leafs on Friday at MSG, and are now ranked 23rd in the NHL with a 76.5% (13-17) success rate. The Rangers held the Maple Leafs scoreless in one three-on-five situation (1:10) on Friday at MSG, and are 1-2 on three-on-fives (1:45) this season. The Blueshirts yielded one goal in three, three-on-four situations on Friday, and are now 2-3 (1:10) in those situations this season. Shorthanded goals for (1): 10/9 at BUF (Dubinsky).
*       Four-on-Four: New York allowed one goal in two, four-on-four situations (4:48) on Friday vs. Toronto, and has now skated in four, four-on-four situations (6:38) this season. Four-on-four goals for (0). Four-on-four goals allowed (1): 10/15 vs. TOR (Kessel).

RANGER MILESTONES
Three new Blueshirts tallied their first point as a Ranger in Friday’s home opener vs. Toronto, with Ruslan Fedotenko, Derek Boogaard and Steve Eminger each recording one assist in the contest. In addition, Sean Avery registered two assists in the game to record his 100th point as a Ranger.

STEPAN’S NEW TRICK
Derek Stepan notched three goals while making his NHL debut in the Rangers’ 6-3 season-opening win on Oct. 9 at Buffalo. He registered the Rangers’ first goal of the season, opening the game’s scoring at 10:53 of the first period. His second and third goals were recorded in a 3:12 span late in the second, with his third goal at 18:20 of the middle frame standing as the game-winner. Stepan’s hat trick established the following Rangers’ and NHL marks:
*       He is the first Ranger in franchise history to record a hat trick in his NHL debut.
*       His three goals tied the Rangers’ franchise record for most goals in an opening-night game, becoming just the second player in team history to record a hat trick in the season opener. Ron Murphy also tallied a hat trick in the 1955-56 season opener on Oct. 7, 1955 at Chicago.
*       The last Ranger rookie to register a hat trick was Jan Hlavac on Feb. 11, 2000 vs. Boston.
*       Stepan is the 26th Ranger to record a hat trick in their rookie season.
*       The last Ranger to register a hat trick at Buffalo was Petr Nedved on Feb. 25, 2000.
*       The last NHL player to record a hat trick in their NHL debut was Fabian Brunnstrom of the Dallas Stars on Oct. 15, 2008 vs. Nashville.
*       Stepan is just the fourth player in NHL history to register a hat trick in their NHL debut.

YOUTH IS SERVED
Based on opening day rosters, the Rangers have the ninth youngest team in the NHL with an average age of 27 years and 44 days, and the second youngest defensive corp in the league, trailing only Los Angeles with an average age of 25 years and 51 days.

NEW FACES
The Rangers had six new players dress in their season opener on Oct. 9 at Buffalo: Martin Biron, Derek Boogaard, Steve Eminger, Ruslan Fedotenko, Alex Frolov, and Derek Stepan. Stepan (three goals) and Frolov (one assist) both registered their first point as a Ranger in the contest.

GETTING STARTED:
*       Entering the season, the Rangers have posted a record of 276-266-90 all-time in the month of October, including a 175-114-47 mark at home and a 101-152-43 record on the road. New York is scheduled to play 10 games during the season’s opening month in 2010-11, with five games being contested at MSG and five scheduled on the road.
*       Legendary Rangers’ defenseman Brian Leetch holds the franchise record for most points in the month of October, having registered 43 goals and 130 assists for 173 career points in the season’s opening month.
*       The Blueshirts’ all-time leader for most career wins in the month of October is Mike Richter, who registered 40 career wins during the season’s opening month.
*       Last season, New York tied the franchise record for longest winning streak in the month of October, winning seven consecutive games from Oct. 3, 2009 vs. Ottawa to Oct. 17, 2009 at Toronto. The Rangers also won seven straight October games in 1988-89, beginning on Oct. 16 vs. Vancouver and ending on Oct. 30 vs. Pittsburgh. Their seven-game winning streak last season was also the team’s longest since they won seven straight from Feb. 1, 2006 vs. Pittsburgh to Mar. 2, 2006 at Philadelphia.

MILESTONES IN SIGHT:
*       Ryan Callahan: 2 points from 100th NHL career
*       Chris Drury: 4 power play goals from 100th NHL career

MILESTONES RECENTLY ACHIEVED:
*       Derek Stepan: 1st career NHL game and 1st career NHL goal/point (10/9 at BUF)

INJURIES:
*       Vinny Prospal (IR – Sept. 24) – 3
*       Erik Christensen (injured – Oct. 11) – 1
*       Marian Gaborik (injured – Oct. 15)
*       Chris Drury (injured – Oct. 15)
Total Man-Games Lost: 6

RECENT TRANSACTIONS:
*       Oct. 13: Assigned forward Tim Kennedy to Hartford

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  1. MickeyM really likes the second line on

    Morning folks! Hockey again- man, does that feel good to say.

    No Beninati? No Edzo? Did we enter a bizzarro Versus world?

    Off to work, catch ya’s later!

  2. “KISS” opening night is a sign…ive been saying this since the lockout-we need to play “KISS” HOCKEY…we are running around in all three zones the other night….as usual did not take care of the puck and as usual the opponent buried their opportunities

    Keep
    It
    Simple
    Stupid

    Get the puck deep and forecheck like the dubi-anisimov-cally line….get the puck towards the net-roszival SHOOT THE PUCK ….for the love of G-d shoot the puck on the POWERPLAY and from the point in general…and STOP TAKING dumb penalties-i know everyone loves AVERY but i get home from the game and see the replay of the slash and it is just brutal-brutal

    KISS HOCKEY FELLAS LETS GO

  3. Does anybody have a website where we can watch streaming games online? Versus I can watch on my TV, but I don’t want to pay $180 per year for non-HD NHL hockey package. The picture sucks, might as well watch online.

  4. Oh, yeah, Darren Eliot, just noticed…Duh.

    Which reminds me, does anyone have a good explanation why Dave Maloney isn’t doing a bit more for the Rangers than just radio analyst? I think his hockey knowledge is great and he can help the team in a lot of different areas, IMHO. Thoughts?

  5. Linda stop changing your name! :P

    Well I guess the bright side to all this is that they’ve gotten off to strong starts and been horrible afterwards. Maybe if they first 15 games are a struggle they’ll heat up for the next 50 lol

  6. Ok it’s after 9. Cliff Lee bashing time

    CLIFF LEE’S MAMA SO FAT- HER BELT SIZE IS EQUATOR!

  7. i just dont understand it-Roszival has the best shot on the team….if i were torts i would just demand him to shoot the puck more….the other teams do their homework and know he rarely shoots the puck and its a huge disadvantage for us…hopefully their will be some fun cableivision and dolan “chants” at MSG tonite!, im sure there are fellow cranky rocklanders and long islanders this morning on the phone with the cablevision rep as we speak! VERIZON FIOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  8. Dave M aloney is too opinionated for MSG’s taste. The Happy Shiny people over at MSG network have to tow the corporate line.

    So get used to John Monotone and Joe Micheletti

    Rangers can not take an entire period of hockey off and expect to win (see last year)

  9. well said Mouth.

    And Seth- I’ve been saying the same thing about Rozsi for like 5 years. The sad truth is he just WONT shoot the puck. And when you don’t shoot the puck and you consistently have problems playing the point (ie keeping the puck in the zone, falling down, not getting back in time, trying to make a pass when you don’t have a passing lane- all MR qualities) you don’t belong on the PP unit. Torts needs to do something about it this year. between that and his lackluster defensive skills I just don’t see how this guy is going to be a Ranger for the entire year. Not if Torts and Sather are for real about “it doesnt matter what kind of contract you have; it matters how you play”.

    PS- I’d rather see Sauer out on the point. No way he could be worse then MR

  10. I am selling two tickets for tonight’s game: New York Rangers v. Colorado Avalanche – 10/17 – Section 60, Row E, Seats 3 and 4. Hands down, these seats are the best in the house. They are 5th row off the ice, right above the face-off circle, on the side that the Rangers shoot at twice. They are $240 each. I am looking for face value.

    If you want them, I can email them. I take paypal. My email address is mitchellcohen@nyc.rr.com

  11. Please someone tell me why Boogaard is on this team? Komisarek, Armstrong, etc…and all he is there for is a “deterrent”. He is not deterring SHT. Avery and Prust are the guys who have to fight? WTF is going on here? Please someone, explain to me why Booger hasn’t even dropped the gloves yet.

  12. True Fans Bleed RW&B on

    Newman,
    Thanks for re-itterating the concerns I had when Boogaard was signed to replace Brashear. He essentially is Brashear, btw.

    Nobody really wants to fight Boogaard, because he’s so big, and Boogaard won’t have a job if he gets and instigator every shift. So there you have it. There was also a lot of talk at the end of last year that Boogaard got very gun shy after being knocked out (in March, I believe).

  13. we are again wasting too much time on a 4th liner who plays 5-8 minutes per night…brashaer was not the problem, boogard will not be the problem, we should be focusing on the terrible defensive game we played….everyone picks on roszival and listen he has not been good here early but all 7 dman have been pretty bad IMO already…MDZ, GIRARDI, GILROY, and ROSZIVAL have looked slow and careless with the puck…everyone is timid to go into the trenches in the defensive zone…STAAL has not been great…EMINGER AND SAUER average at best, we need to win SOME of the 50-50 PUCKS, we need to get our HANDS DIRTY

  14. LOL, I think I’m the only one who LOVES when its on Versus because that means I get to watch the game in HD.

    Stupid Center Ice is always advertising that their games are in HD but I’ve never come across one in the 3 years I’ve been subscribing.

  15. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    morning ILB and all!!!

    So I have noticed something….
    US Amy Ranger…check
    NY Rangers..check
    SPL…..check
    Kitchner…check

    I see where this is going.. I hate baseball, but GO RANGERS!!!!!! (sorry CR)

  16. Do you have Comcast, Duker? I would alsso love to see a Center Ice game in HD on Comcast. Anybody??!

  17. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    I’m not trying to jinx anything here, but all of our centre ice ranger games have been in HD with the MSG feed!!!

    I’ve said it before…when we had mara, he was our toughest d man (not good), now eminger is our toughest most rugged d man…NOT GOOD!!!!

    Our D is still very very soft, rozy and gilly just need to go, staal needs to grow a pair, OPG, well he needs to go also at his price, sauer is absolutely nothing special at all (ahler)and was outplayed by vtank and mcd but didn’t have to clear waivers, and MDZ, well he is worth keeping at least, he is just saddled with all these other bums. Right now I would only care about seeing eminger, NS, and MDZ here, the rest can just go away.

    I can’t wait until our jackwagon coach decides to bring up MZA for a leaves game or devs game later in the week and gets him killed instead of seeing what he can do against the avs!!!!

    Is vtank up yet??

  18. NHL Center Ice is a rip off. Hardly ever in HD. Did anybody see my earlier post? I had Center Ice for 10 years. I finally decided this year that it is a waste of money. I bought myself a new laptop with an HDMI port so I can hook it up directly to my TV. Now I just need to find a website that consistently broadcasts live streams of the rangers games for free. Justin.TV has them ocassionally. Does anybody have another site to suggest?

  19. “Stupid Center Ice is always advertising that their games are in HD but I?ve never come across one in the 3 years I?ve been subscribing.”

    It amazes me that they get away with those ads. I never saw an HD game on there either (in fact most west coast games came in letterbox form with the black bars on the side) and most games were broadcast from very, very poor feeds.

    Anyone do that gamecenter live thing on the computer? I’ve been very close to trying that…

  20. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    So my question to you guys is where are you all geographically located? Like I posted, our centre ice shows all HD games! Not trying to rub it in, just curious!

  21. Sorry guys, but I have TWC and at least one(if not 2) game per day are in HD on Center Ice. In fact, Anaheim-Nucks game last night was in HD. As well as every game on NHLNetHD. It’s been for a couple of years.

  22. Gravey (Formerly known as jor71) on

    TheMessiah94 and Duker, I am also looking forward to seeing a Ranger game in HD. Comcast (Xfinity) here in S. Fl. has one freakin HD channel (I did see it one time offering 2 games last week) and it is never the Ranger game.

    It is a joke that they advertise it as watching games in HD, when you get one or two at the most.

    LGR!!!

  23. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    When is torts going to assign another letter or two??

    LGR!!!

  24. True Fans Bleed RW&B on

    5 game suspension? I would think that’s the minimum the NHL needs to give him. It’s the exact late, head-hunting, hit that they tried to eliminate half-way through last year.

    Not only that, but Doan’s an asshat, Avery’s said that many times… and Avery is never wrong, just ask S. Valiquette.

  25. I have Direct TV – Almost every game is available on Center Ice in HD usually either teams feed.

  26. Would it be illegal for Carp to have atdhe.net and channelsurfing.net links posted below? This way people here don’t have to ask for links every game?

  27. Shattenkirk Del Headzopan on

    Who are the garden braintrust going to rollout for entertainment tonight? Jerry Garcia & his corpse singing Uncle John’s Band??

  28. Gift of GAB-orik on

    What the hell was Doan thinking? That is a terribly dirty hit… and his butt should be sitting for awhile.

  29. Czechthemout!!!! on

    A bit off topic.

    So the guy we should have drafted Cam Fowler made his team as an 18 year old. He has 1 goal and 2 assists for 3 points. The guy we did draft, another project with a top ten pick, Dylan Mcilrath is stink it up in juniors. All reports on him so far have been disapointing. This my fellow fans is why we are such a crappy team.

  30. Joekuh - Slashing behind the play... on

    Right Czech, let’s pronounce Fowler the greatest D prospect of all time and McIlrath the worst after 2 weeks of hockey. Flawless reasoning there.

  31. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    czech
    brilliant!!!! the rangers and ten or so other teams are all just idiots!!! Fowler is just what this team needs, another positionally sound offencive d man because scoring is our problem and not keeping pucks out of the net…….BRILLIANT!!!

    3 points at the start of the season…WOW!!! And the leaves are raising the cup!!!!

  32. Czechthemout!!!! on

    Joekuh-

    Where in my post did you read me pronouncing Fowler as the greatest damn?

    So far though one guy has three points in three games with NHL team while the other is stinking it up in the juniors. Just sayin.

  33. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    let’s look at the ducks d corps…

    21 SHELDON BROOKBANK 6′ 1″ 200 OCT 3, 1980 30 LANIGAN, SK, CAN
    54 CAM FOWLER 6′ 1″ 190 DEC 5, 1991 18 WINDSOR, ON, CAN
    3 ANDREAS LILJA 6′ 3″ 220 JUL 13, 1975 35 HELSINGBORG, SWE
    32 TONI LYDMAN 6′ 1″ 210 SEP 25, 1977 33 LAHTI, FIN
    23 PAUL MARA 6′ 4″ 207 SEP 7, 1979 31 RIDGEWOOD, NJ, USA
    60 BRENDAN MIKKELSON 6′ 3″ 205 JUN 22, 1987 23 REGINA, SK, CAN
    25 ANDY SUTTON 6′ 6″ 245 MAR 10, 1975 35 KINGSTON, ON, CAN
    17 LUBOMIR VISNOVSKY 5′ 10″ 188 AUG 11, 1976 34 TOPOLCANY, SVK

    and ours…

    4 MICHAEL DEL ZOTTO 6′ 0″ 193 JUN 24, 1990 20 STOUFFVILLE, ON, CAN
    44 STEVE EMINGER 6′ 2″ 203 OCT 31, 1983 26 WOODBRIDGE, ON, CAN
    97 MATT GILROY 6′ 1″ 201 JUL 20, 1984 26 NORTH BELLMORE, NY, USA
    5 DAN GIRARDI 6′ 1″ 206 APR 29, 1984 26 WELLAND, ON, CAN
    33 MICHAL ROZSIVAL 6′ 2″ 212 SEP 3, 1978 32 VLASIM, CZE
    38 MICHAEL SAUER 6′ 3″ 213 AUG 7, 1987 23 ST. CLOUD, MN, USA
    18 MARC STAAL 6′ 4″ 208 JAN 13, 1987 23 THUNDER BAY, ON, CAN

    yep, because they didn’t need fowler and we certainly did! He would be in HTFD with redden in our organization or back in juniors (if eligible).

    And we certainly do not need a physical d man or two in our system?? Really??

  34. Czechthemout!!!! on

    Wicky-

    No you are the brilliant one. Apparently, Fowler’s “positioning” seems to be ok enough for his NHL team. As opposed to the Neanderthal we drafted who had a good 20 game stretch that caused the Rangers to draft him just like when they drafted Jessimen.

    As for offensive dmen, who in your astute hockey mind would you call a good offensive dfensmen in the orginzation other than MDZ?

  35. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    czech
    I believe he was being sarcastic!! Just a bit premature on your crowning and bust predicting don’t you think??

  36. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    czech
    let me slow this down for you a bit. if (if) we had a team of d men that were mostly defencive minded, defencively responsible, and fairly physical, you would want a d man like fowler (who is talented) on your roster. If you are a team like ours, that has mostly guys that are noted for not being overly physical and with offencive potential, you draft a guy like mcilrath because he fills a team need far more than fowler does??

    So what is your major malfunction with this??

  37. Czechthemout!!!! on

    Wicky-

    Other than Staal,Mdz, and maybe Girardi you really think that the rest of our defense is better then theirs? Blowzy,Crapinger,Gilroy? These guys are no better than the crap that the Ducks have. Fowler would have easily made the Rangers had he been drafted.

  38. Czech. The guy is 18 years old. Has a lot of development to get through to become an NHLer. Anaheim is not deep at all on Defense. That is why he made the team. Bringing an 18 year old defenseman into the league is usually a bad idea. You are reading into things way to much. Calm the heck down.

  39. Yeah, I have Comcast and live in Boston during the school year.

    Even the feeds that say they SHOULD be in HD don’t appear in HD for me. I should call them up and see what gives.

    I was thinking about just watching it off the computer with live streams but it’s tough sitting at a desk for 2 and a half hours and looking at a tiny box. You can barely make anything out.

    Regardless, I get excited when Carp mentions the game is on Versus or NBC. ;)

  40. Czechthemout!!!! on

    You don’t fill needs with top 10 picks! You fill needs with lower round picks,trades and free agents. In the draft, you take the most talented players available to you. Cam Fowler fell into our lap just like Zach Parise did. What did we do, we drafted another project with a top pick. Thatnis how you maintain mediocrity.

    And stop with the snide remarks. Learn how to have a discussion with out the personal stuff.

  41. I’ll be there tonight, section 412. Looking forward to the beginning of the Todd White era!

  42. I gotta sort of agree with Czech that you need to take the best talent available that early in the draft. I can’t exactly remember why Fowler fell as low as he did but having Malkin didn’t stop the Pens from drafting Crosby nor did having Corey Perry or Getzlaf stop the Ducks from drafting Ryan.

  43. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    czech
    first of all the snide remarks IMHO seemed to arise in your 1:05 post and secondly rozy if he hasn’t been dumped by now for guys in the system fowler would not change that. Same with other guys on the roster. I would love to see our D overhauled, but apparently it will not happen for whatever reason. After the first 3 picks, it was a crap shoot in this past years draft, several other teams passed on fowler and I have not kept up on the stats of their prospects to this point, but according to your reasoning, if they are not in the NHL right now, they are all busts and fowler is better than all of them.

    This early on after the draft, I do not see any logic whatsoever to your statement. Hope this isn’t too snide for you!!

  44. Joekuh - Slashing behind the play... on

    Duker, once you full screen the feed, or make your TV an extra computer monitor like I did, its fine :)

    I see my sarcasm just flew past you czech. I’ll turn it down for you.

    I’m not worried about Fowler. He’s another OFFENSIVE defenseman. We need D-Men to keep pucks OUT of the net, not IN them.

  45. Newman,
    Spot on re: Boogard. He didn’t deter anything against the Leafs. And TFB, can’t say nobody wants to fight him. Orr did the other night, Boogard passed. Maybe the timing was wrong, but he had a willing partner in Orr, if he wanted to he could have found “the right time”. Maybe during the second period when the Leafs were making the Rangers look silly? Heck, forget about Orr, maybe Boogard should have gone after Armstrong.

    I’m not saying Armstong wouldn’t have hit Gabby from behind this time because of Boogard’s presence, but doing nothing sure won’t make him hesitate next time either.

  46. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    ct
    I would not compare fowler to any of the players you listed, so I do not really see the correlation, but maybe down the road fowler will be better than them all!!

  47. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    sorry guys, hate to leave this discussion, but family obligations.

    LGR!!!!

  48. This has probably been mentioned already, but Dale Weise will miss 4-6 weeks with a wrist injury. That’s too bad.

    And I agree with CT, and Cw. You do have to take the best available player in the draft. If you have two of the same players that offer the same role, that’s not the worst thing in the world. If anything, you can trade one of them. And you’d think they would have drafted Fowler since they planned on trading Bobby Sangs.

    But, you can’t automatically come to the conclusion that McIlrath is a bust. I’m hoping he can turn into a Phaneuf style player. Big, physical, and has some offense. But, I’ll settle for a Orpik, Komisarek, Volchenkov type of player.

  49. Wicky, my point was not to say that Fowler is better than all of them but rather those teams took players of similar styles to players they already had on the roster. So even if the Rangers were seemingly taking a redundant player (with DZ already in the system) opting to choose Fowler wouldn’t immediately qualify as a mistake. The Pens and Ducks along with other more successful franchises (than the Rangers) have not shown an aversion to drafting redudantly skilled players.

  50. We will not be able to make any comparison or judge which one of them (Mcilrath vs Fowler) was a better pick until at least a couple of years from now.

  51. paulieplatypus on

    In my opinion, the times have changed… It used to be very difficult finding offensive D-men like Fowler. Now days players like Fowler are much more readily available in the draft than hard hitting D-men, like McIlrath – who also show enough speed and skill to play in this “new” NHL.

  52. VINNY PROSPAL UNDERGOES SUCCESSFUL SURGERY
    Procedure on knee performed this morning

    New York, October 18, 2010 – New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather announced today that forward Vinny Prospal underwent successful surgery on his knee this morning. The procedure was performed by Dr. Andrew Feldman at the NYU Hospital for Joint Diseases in New York. Prospal will be sidelined for six to eight weeks.

  53. yes good news on prospal…brooks reporting he could be back in early december…listen like torts said we have to grind out some wins…lets get our butts in the trenches and work hard here fellas

  54. Joekuh - Slashing behind the play... on

    LMAO @ smoosh smoosh. Am I the only one that hates with a Carcillo level hate that show?

  55. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    ok, so I am back for about 5 minutes.

    CT
    I do not think drafting fowler would be a mistake, but he did not fill a glaring need like mcilrath did at that point in the draft. I thought gudbranson was the best all around d man in the draft (3rd to FLA. and returned to juniors before season). Maybe florida’s d is deep enough that they did not need him, maybe he just wasn’t quite ready yet? I’m not sure, but I’m not ready to label him a bust or a future HOFer yet, too soon!!

    My point is after the 3rd pick, most “experts” said the next 15 or so players were relatively close in potential, so I have no problem with the mcilrath pick over fowler, especially if one is not far and away above the other in talent or potential, to fill a need in the organization that is so glaringly missing.

  56. Seth

    I’ve also often wondered why Roz doesn’t shoot more ( and when he does it’s a limp wrister easily corralled and taken over.

    After watching him a couple of times recently I’ve come to the conclusion that he is afraid to slap a hard shot which may rebound back out to the blue line, and picked off by an opponent and leave him, Roz, soaking up the snow as the skater blasts by him for a one on no one at LQ. ( And this very sequence has happened in the past with disastrous results. And very disheartening. I’ve nothing against him personally, and at one time thought he was pretty good, but since the departure of Jagr it’s as though he has been abandoned by Momma amidst the wild things.

    He is without a doubt a very timid player. Maybe what he needs is a good speaking to by a team of Blogmomma, Orr and possibly Greg ( if he can control himself).

  57. Joekuh - Slashing behind the play... on

    No not south park, jersey shore. Stanley Cup only knows how much I hate that show.

  58. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    quick completely off topic question before I leave again..

    Has anyone played the new Medal of Honour game?? Is it better than Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2?? I have a 360 (no house burning jokes orr!!)

    Thanks and I will read the responses later!!

    LGR!!!

  59. True Fans Bleed RW&B on

    Rozi and staal have been the worst this year. Whoever is defending rozi, start watching the games please. Mdz makes fewer mistakes, mistakes you expect from rookies. Girardi, emminger and even Gilroy have all been better than your man crush Rozi.
    can’t wait until he’s out of the nhl (which is his next stop) because no north american team will be resigning him.

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