Leaves-Rangers in review

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Watched some of Rangers Encore when I got home at 1:30 a.m. I know, get a life.

But it confirmed a few things for me.

Some thoughts on Leaves-Rangers.

1) Toronto might actually be much improved this year. Is 4-0 a fluke? Maybe. Do I think the Leaves are a top-six team? Doubt it. But definitely much better.

2) It was indeed the Armstrong hit on Gaborik — the one on which he got the boarding penalty — that separated his left shoulder. The reason there was doubt was that Gaborik remained on the ice for the power play. But when you watch it again, Gaborik is hit, then starts flexing that left shoulder.

3) That’s why Sean Avery — the only guy who consistently sticks up for teammates — tried to engage Armstrong in a fight and took that penalty later on. Good for him there. Bad for him when he twice hacked Komisarek. I don’t know if the NHL will suspend him for that, or maybe just fine him. I do know where he stands in the eyes of NHL HQ, though. So anything’s possible.

4) It’s hard to believe that Erik Christensen, who couldn’t make it through a morning skate, was better by the end of the game. In fact he told Andrew Gross he was no better. I’d say he’s 50/50 at best for Monday. Ladies and Gentlemen, Todd White.

5) Drury’s broken finger, I now firmly believe, came when he and Rozsival collided and Drury went awkwardly into the boards, and that was the start of that long, terrible pinned-in defensive-zone shift. Drury couldn’t get off the ice forever.

6) Yeah, Matt Gilroy had some yips in his first game in a long, long time. But not enough where he should now be Redden’s D partner. Aside from some of the goof-ups, I thought he looked OK, and definitely much more intent on competing defensively. I’d keep him in there for a while. But what do I know?

7) Upon further review … the penalty on Eminger was an OK call. At first I thought he just hit the guy, but his forearm/elbow definitely clipped the helmet. Roughing wasn’t a bad call. The penalty on Staal in OT was the right call.

8) Brandon Prust continues to improve as a player, has definitely reaped the benefits of his boxing workouts in the summer, and is the kind of honest, rugged hockey player you want on a team. But he can’t fight 60-70 times a season, can he?

9) Based on what I’ve seen through six preseason games and three regular-season games, I don’t think these Rangers will fade away minus Gaborik and Drury.

Here’s my column on the game from The Journal News and LoHud.com. I mocked MSG’s small-town production. Most of the non-hockey stuff was embarrassing, wasn’t it? And I forgot to mention that the crowd was into it, but it wasn’t anything special.

One more thing. I met tr-808 and Mrs. tr after the game. Nice people. Good Boneheads.

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  1. LindaCalPruBoylahan on

    WOOO HOOO ilb. i hope josh is keeping track of the carpings for the award at the end of the season!

  2. Ha! Carp, may be I should call my lawyer. Did you use my posts from the previous thread to create yours? And, yeah, get a life. We all should lol

  3. Yeah, Linda, I’m one up on you. But I think it goes back to 0 if you get “first” on the next post.:-)

  4. LindaCalPruBoylahan on

    lmao ILB!

    dont forget now, i got the first carping of the season! and i think i got carped on the game thread last night, i’ll have to go check but i remember carps very strong NO to my comment lol

    BANJ, you’re special!

  5. True Fans Bleed RW&B on

    Has it been mentioned that Cuthbert had a fling with Komisarek after Avery and before Phaneuf? That must make the Leaf’s locker-room an interesting place and really elevate Sean’s off-ice banter when he’s in Toronto?!

    Anyway, point is that Sean may have figured out to handle himself. 2 mins certainly beats 6 game suspensions, trips to the minors, and all expenses paid vacations to rehab centers!

  6. LindaCalPruBoylahan on

    True, noone wanted to play when i asked about that last night lol!

    BANJ, it’s ALL dolans fault!

  7. True Fans Bleed RW&B on

    Carp, LoHud Techie guys,

    Have tinyurl.com links been blocked entirely? In the past, it was possible to post TinyURL links but I can’t get anything through now. Thanks.

  8. don’t mind if Todd White plays. maybe he has a degree of upside at this moment.
    although it doesn’t much like Torts wants him in there.
    and if that’s the case then why is he here?

  9. Carped! Repost…

    I’m also not terribly worried after a very uneven showing last night. Our defensive effort, and I’m speaking of the entire team, was the reason for this loss. Poor coverage which led to chasing the puck (again) and open ice for Toronto to move the puck quickly through the neutral zone and over the blue line with speed. As everyone has noted we weren’t physical enough either.

    Our defense is a work in progress that Torts is still trying to figure out. I think he wants it to work with players already within the organization but if we continue to give up 4+ goals a game the team will have no choice but to make a trade.

    Boyle continues to impress with improvement in every area of his game. It’s easy to root for him when the work he did in the off season is so evident. Let’s also credit the coaching staff for waking up our sleeping giant. Whatever they said or did to motivate him is working. He seems to have some leadership qualities and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him throw the gloves down at some point. Let’s hope Big Boo is showing him a thing or two in that regard.

    Yes, Avery was great last night excepting for about :30. The penalty he took was just plain stupid. Sean lost control and he’s lucky there was no goal scored on the resulting PP. He’s shown himself to be a talented player but that behavior is partly why officials look the other way when he’s fouled. I’ll bet the penalty he drew earlier in the game would not have been called if it had occurred after his attempt to amputate a foot.

    I strongly disagree with some of you regarding the hit Gaborik took that separated his shoulder. It definitely was a hit from behind.

    The officiating is atrocious! Not only are the referees extremely inconsistent but they are increasingly out of position and interfering with the play. At one point not only was the linesman right in the middle of the play but he was grabbing a player in an attempt to get out of the way. Where do they get these guys?

  10. with all the injuries, I’d pick up Brunnstrom on Waivers, especially for 675k. It’s just a shame that Kennedy was sent down and can probably not be recalled without losing him on Re-Entry

  11. Crystal Water Triple on

    Much as I like Cally or Dubi for Captain, I am thinking the maverick appointment of Sean Avery to the position will either work spectacularly, or in reverse gear, but may be worth the gamble for a few weeks, at least. Unlike Dreary, Avery has a fire in his belly, comes to win, sticks up for his teammates and himself, and has value to the team far beyond his hockey-playing abilty, which surfaces on occasion, and when it does he can take control of a game for the team. Just a thought.

  12. Carp and Everyone:

    Ok I am giving everyone a warning here: this will not be a happy post; in fact, I am going to be super critical here – so here goes:

    1. The hit on Gaborik required an IMMEDIATE reaction from the team. What do we get: NOTHING – I was convinved I was immediately transported into the twillight zone and it was the 2009-2010 season.

    2. WE played like a high school team trying to compete at a Junior level. The effort at the end of the first and into the second was PITIFUL. This is the NHL for Christsakes!

    3. Folks – this is THE NHL – we have to stop making excuses for players who have a bad start here, a bad penalty there, etc. AGAIN: NEWSFLASH – THIS IS THE NHL – we are supposed to be playing like PROFESSIONALS, not a bunch of washed-up wanna-bees like me in an over 40 league –

    4. The D were horrendous for several minutes at a time in this game – really? How is this still possible? Who is coaching the D and what are we telling them to do? Seriously, where was the jump in the skates? Where was the physical play? The D men need to be THE toughest on the ICE – always! Where were they for several stretches of that game?

    5. Henrik is a player – pure and simple. Sometimes, no strike that, many times he is the best player on the ice. Period. Henrik should play all postions if possible – I really feel bad for him … .he carries this team constantly – it is pathetic.

    6. Avery is an idiot – what the Buffuglien is he thinking? How is that standing up for antoher player? That pure and simple is being a %^&*^% Bag = I said it at the beginning of the season – Avery does not bring what we need to compete in this league – I really dont.

    7. Newsflash: We Signed D. Booguard – didn’t we? Now, what was he signed for???? Guess what – might as well still have Brashit – he did NOTHING last night.

    8. THIS IS THE NHL – buck up, put your balls in your purse, and play HOCKEY – OMG they sucked last night. Come on – this is the NHL – everyone here is supposed to be professionals.

    9. Hate to say this as well, but i am going to: Torts has to take some of the heat for last night’s efforts. What is he exactly doing as a game plan? I am sorry – this is the NHL!!!! Come on – get a competitive game plan going … if it doesnt work, make adjustments and PLAY HOCKEY

    10. THIS IS THE NHL

  13. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    how come every time I post a comment, I have to answer questions about banj???

    morning ILB and all!!

    I agree with nasty and ILB on the last thread about avery doing the right thing and the team being together!

    Can’t wait to see what happends (if anything) via the waiver wire!!

    Can a team claim more than one guy on the wire at once???

  14. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    CWT

    well said about avery, he def deserves an “A” at least!!

    BTW folks, torts is an idiot coach.

  15. Good afternoon, Carp!

    What’s this about Avery getting a letter? I just don’t see that happening…

    Hey BANJ, what’s your favorite color?

  16. Good after crack of noon all! I’m still working on my first cup of coffee so don’t have much right away except, I love Boyle, Sweet 16 (OK, admittedly, I didn’t mind the butt tap, but the ankle slash wasn’t too bright. However, the Academy Award goes too…..)

    I wish the second period had been more like the third. Bummer of a loss. Hung with the twins and the TRs at warren, which was insane! Are the Yankees done yet???

    Linda, thanks for 1,800 e-mails this morning :)

    later all

  17. i had to answer some question too… like the year i was born in, zip code and gender! pain in the assen for sure!

    btw, Brad Richards is having another good year so far :)

  18. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    sally
    wooooo hoooo!!!!! i doubt it happens as well, but i think he deserves one!!!!

  19. Yea I am starting to think torts isn’t that great of a coach. The team plays like Torts’s eradic behavior. Great coaches in the past have been able to compose themselves very well even when things don’t go great, but his press conference was deflating.

    He should have been confident that his club was deep enough to fill in those spots…heck Gaborik hasn’t even scored yet.

  20. Oh yeah, also met frequent RR reader but infrequent poster Adam and his fiancee, almost Mrs. Adam. He’s not only very informed about all the heads, but was beyond belief and joy at actually meeting blogmama. It was a lovely moment for both of us :)

  21. Avery is the only guy that answered the bell. I forgot he went after Armstrong (although he completely Byfugiened it). Those slashes to Komisarek happened just after Komisarek slashed him on the back of the legs. Only the linesman caught it, but if the linesman is gonna rat Avery out, he shoulda got Komisarek as well. There is a vandetta against Avery in the NHL. NO DOUBT.

  22. TheREALMikey NJ on

    Highlights from las tnight as I was at the game

    Met Nick Fotiu ( He’s awesome and super firendly)
    Bumped into cameron Diaz (literally)
    Saw the actor who played the indian guy in short circuit (Fisher something) was alos in the marrying man if you ever heard or seen it
    started the sloppy seconds chant

    Have to admit was kind of bombed, but only got that way after the officiating started to go downhill.

    Do the refs even kno whwat to call aspenalties anymore? There so inconsistnet

    AND caused one of the goals against us in the second period. Ref gets caugh tnthe play along the wall, ties up two rangers, leafs break up ice, goal. F the Refs!!

  23. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    cccp
    careful, mao will flip out if you bring up brad richards!!

  24. Pucktenko, formerly The Puck Drops Here on

    Carp, the new format doesn’t tell the time you published the blog. It only has today’s date. Is it possible to get the time, too.

    On another note, do you Twitter stuff you don’t post on the blog? For those of us not a-Twitter and faceless (not on Facebook) are we missing good stuff? Pucktenko wants to know. :-) TY!

  25. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    I know i’m going to get butchered here for this, but I wish we had a coach like colin campbell. I know most here do not like him because of the way he treated some players that were faves to people here, but that team was aggressive offensively and physically and took crap from NO ONE!!!! I remember him trying to get at murray during that flyers rangers fight in the mid 90’s. It is no secret the “dark years” started after we let him go!!!

    You are welcome for the subsequent hits carp!!!

  26. Wicky, if he does get it I propose we celebrate by wearing sunglasses for a whole day – even indoors and at night.

    BANJ, excellent choice. Okay you have my permission to continue posting…

  27. Good points, Carp.

    I must say, I love the “numbered” thing you do when you review a previous game. Nice, small bites that get straight to the point and are always entertaining to read. Always enjoy reading them.

  28. REALMicky…you KNOW I’m not happy about that chant. Really REAL? Bad bonehead, bad!

    In all seriousness, with the way he’s been playing for us, and the way he played last night, why would a Ranger fan do that? I don’t get it.

  29. *and another thing that bothers the hell out of me with the new blog format… every other time i post a comment, the page loads with a picture of some stupid ad and that’s it! I literally have to click back arrow to come back to the site! ANNOYING! Thanks*

  30. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
    No one on waivers today. Brunnstrom and Valabik clear waivers.

    a bit disappointing

  31. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    so slats fave was a plus 3 and had 1 assist and 2 pims in his first game.

  32. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    vtank a plus 3 in htfd……just saying maybe he should have been up here all along instead of sauer!!

  33. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    cccp
    actually yes, instead of rozy, you are correct!!

  34. I also nominate Cw for quote of the week!

    And I didn’t understand Boyle’s comment. He said they’ll stick up for their players and kill the penalties. Really? Why did Phaneuf get away with hitting Hank? Why did Armstrong get away with injuring Gabby with a cheapshot?

    Yes, Boyle! You *are* the same team. Weak!

  35. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    Anyone else think a second asst coach on the bench would help out quite a bit….especially with the D???

  36. Can anyone confirm whether Ace Frehley made it through the night? I’d have rated his chances as 50/50. His career, maybe 1/99.

    And what does Carp have against Vernon Fiddler?

  37. The campaign for Brendan Witt as assistant coach starts here…

    Can’t see Torts reacting too well to someone questioning whether he needs help. Maybe Lurky Rod could be persuaded to ask him?

  38. True Fans Bleed RW&B on

    I agree with a number of Coach’s points above, but wanted to hilight one of them.

    Despite all of the GA’s for Hank, and some poor rebound control (esp game 1), he has pretty much saved this team from starting 0-3-0. The defense is putrid, at best.

    As soon as Torterella stops trusting Avery (and he will, it’s a matter of “when” more than anything), I will be calling for a replacement coach. I hate to say it, but Torts *may* actually be worse than Tom Renney.

  39. True Fans, it’s hard to say that, because our team has never been this bad under Renney.

    When Renney was here, he had more to work with. Torts doesn’t have many options.

    But, since a lot of you hate Torts, and want to see him fired, just out of curiosity, who exactly do you want to replace him with?

  40. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    got to love torts saying EC will play and EC saying not sure if he can!!

  41. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    I think talent wise, torts has more to work with than renney did!

  42. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    torts always says trying to figure out 5th and 6th D…….HELLO, how about at least one spot in the top 4 (rozy). Further proof the coach is an idiot!!!

  43. True Fans Bleed RW&B on

    Renney had Gomez, Drury, and Jagr?! And he used that to get to the playoffs with Malik, Straka, Orr, Tyutin, Shanahan, Dawes, Strudwick, Hollweg, Betts and Mara! The other guys I didn’t mention (Avery, Dubi, Cally) were on both, although those young guys obviously had more potential then (and perhaps, less actual production).

    And that team was/is better than this one?! Idk, Orr.

  44. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    love how nhl.com has hard hits video up and the only ranger ones are two from eminger from last night….not a good sign!

  45. I think it’s pretty obvious, True Fans. Once most of those guys left, Renney didn’t have much, and he completely lost the team. They shouldn’t have even made the playoffs that year, but the firing was a shot of adrenaline up the poop loop and Torts got them in.

    The team is weak, soft, and believe it or not, just not as talented. Maybe because they’re too young, but I’d rather have a younger team than old washed up vets.

    I just don’t see what firing Torts can do for them.

  46. True Fans Bleed RW&B on

    How were they more talented? Straka finished that season with 41 points! Jagr had 71. Gomez and Drury, well those two slouches have only hurt this team from the start so arguing either player is a moot point.
    By deduction, you are saying that Shanahan, Dawes, Strudwick, Tyutin, Betts and Mara were the difference makers? When they left, this team took a dive and got that much worse?!

    That’s what your argument is point at.

  47. Except for Gaborik, who exactly are the really talented players on this team? Staal still plays like a rookie half the time, Dubinsky and Callahan need to step it up if they want to be considered top talent, Frolov hasn’t done anything yet. Who else is there who has proven anything? So they better start acting like a team, and forechecking non-stop, and maybe they’ll create something. Because no one can slide by on talent alone, and there is no Jagr to carry the team. Maybe Torts can try coaching, instead of waiting for something to click.

  48. Orr…the biggest unasked question is why didn’t the Refs call a penalty on that blatant running of LQ, which they never fail to do with Rangers even when they are propelled by a defensive player.THat;s the big question.

  49. Tank The Season on

    Joe Thornton signed $21M over 3 yrs extension in San Jose. Yes, that’s less than Drury.

    Lord only knows how much we will overpay for Brad Richards assuming he is a UFA on 7/1/11.

  50. True Fans Bleed RW&B on

    “Joe Thornton signed $21M over 3 yrs extension in San Jose. Yes, that’s less than Drury.”

    Thanks! You just ruined my week (…hurl…)

  51. The biggest unasked question after “Why isn’t Willie Mitchell a Ranger?” and “Can we get the Blue Man Group back for next year’s home opener?” you mean.

  52. really awful hearing Torts say over and over in the postgame presser that he was so pleased that they got a point. that is inexcusable. you don’t settle for losses and bettman loser points AT HOME. that is a bad message for the coach to send out to his troops.

    the Rangers biggest problem last year was losing at home, and now you’ve got the coach excusing them for doin it again this year.

  53. I’ll say it Again: THIS IS THE NHL – THE “BIG” TIME – WE ARE PLAYING LIKE A BUNCH OF PEEWEE PLAYERS – aweful game if you really watch it and break ot down. I also state: Torts was Out-Coached last night – and in reality, he does not take what he has and give them a chance to win games. Renny did – that is why he was the better Coach.

    I’ll state this again as well: We Dont Stick Up for Anyone – that we do is BS – and Ovary hurts this team – PERIOD. Boo idiot should have made the statement after LUNDQUIST was RUN INTO !! Then GABBY is HIT – OMG it was so frustrating to watch. And to get beat on those 2 on 1’s and 3 on 2’s …. pathetic – weak. This “team” better wake up and start playing NHL hockey.

    Carp and Everyone:

    Ok I am giving everyone a warning here: this will not be a happy post; in fact, I am going to be super critical here – so here goes:

    1. The hit on Gaborik required an IMMEDIATE reaction from the team. What do we get: NOTHING – I was convinved I was immediately transported into the twillight zone and it was the 2009-2010 season.

    2. WE played like a high school team trying to compete at a Junior level. The effort at the end of the first and into the second was PITIFUL. This is the NHL for Christsakes!

    3. Folks – this is THE NHL – we have to stop making excuses for players who have a bad start here, a bad penalty there, etc. AGAIN: NEWSFLASH – THIS IS THE NHL – we are supposed to be playing like PROFESSIONALS, not a bunch of washed-up wanna-bees like me in an over 40 league –

    4. The D were horrendous for several minutes at a time in this game – really? How is this still possible? Who is coaching the D and what are we telling them to do? Seriously, where was the jump in the skates? Where was the physical play? The D men need to be THE toughest on the ICE – always! Where were they for several stretches of that game?

    5. Henrik is a player – pure and simple. Sometimes, no strike that, many times he is the best player on the ice. Period. Henrik should play all postions if possible – I really feel bad for him … .he carries this team constantly – it is pathetic.

    6. Avery is an idiot – what the Buffuglien is he thinking? How is that standing up for antoher player? That pure and simple is being a %&*% Bag = I said it at the beginning of the season – Avery does not bring what we need to compete in this league – I really dont.

    7. Newsflash: We Signed D. Booguard – didn’t we? Now, what was he signed for???? Guess what – might as well still have Brashit – he did NOTHING last night.

    8. THIS IS THE NHL – buck up, put your balls in your purse, and play HOCKEY – OMG they sucked last night. Come on – this is the NHL – everyone here is supposed to be professionals.

    9. Hate to say this as well, but i am going to: Torts has to take some of the heat for last night’s efforts. What is he exactly doing as a game plan? I am sorry – this is the NHL!!!! Come on – get a competitive game plan going … if it doesnt work, make adjustments and PLAY HOCKEY

    10. THIS IS THE NHL

  54. Collectively more talented, not individually.

    It’s still way too early to throw this team under the bus and give up, but, they’re still similar to the teams of the last two years.

    And In my opinion, coaching doesn’t have anything to do with that.

  55. Wolfpack, he’s right. You know he isn’t the kind of guy that would be 100% happy getting a point, but the fact of the matter is, they didn’t deserve that game, just like the Isles game. They’re lucky to get out with a point, because they looked like they were ready to blow it like they did against the Isles.

    If last year is proof enough, every point matters. Take what you can get.

  56. Not for nothing, but Avery has been our best playmaker! Ahaha! Four assists.

    He was the only one that tried stepping up for Gabby. He tried to fight Armstrong before the bouchebag vagina’d out, and he delivered a few cheap shots.

    But, the rest of the gang didn’t do crap! Bunch of wimps. Booger included. We signed this guy to skate around and waste time? Flashback of last season with Brash*t.

    Aside from his beautifully simple Joe Thornton style pass to set up Boyle’s goal. I’m glad he had enough skill to make that pass without sending it into the benches, or into the cotton candy guys face in the crowd.

  57. you look at the stats, and it is the AA, Dubi, Cally line that is giving up a lot of the 5-on-5 goals. AA and Dubi are minus 3, and Cally minus 2

    Avery is +4, Stepan is +4

    that means that AA and Dubi are 7 goals worse than Stepan and Avery even strength.

    and the only dmen who are minus are Blowsival and Eminger, who are both minus 1

  58. some thoughts i had while watching last night:
    1. Gilroy. On the 4v4 he was in the corner the whole shift forechecking, while Dubinsky played D. I thought Gilroy was a defenseman, I guess not. Its not like he had the puck or we were pressuring. He really does not play defense
    2. For all of Joe Mich’s carping about the linesman getting in the way twice, which he did…why in the world did Staal try to stand up at the blue line also? His d partner already did ahead of him after AA went down. Terrible decision and as much to blame for the goal as the linesman.

  59. Drury needs to on LTIR. Get him off of the books. He is invisible out there anyway. Unless you are looking for guys who take lazy/stupid penalties at the buzzer, or drops in a heap during the PK.

  60. Blueval Seaten Horrortenko on

    For those keeping score this early in the season:

    Dylan McIlrath – WHL – Moose Jaw Warriors – 9 gms – 0G – 1A – (-8) – 23PIM
    Cam Fowler – NHL – Anaheim Ducks – 5 Gms – 0G – 2A – (-2) – 2PIM

  61. Yes, let’s compare the performance of 18 year old draft picks roughly one week into their post-draft careers playing completely different styles in completely different leagues.

  62. Avery did the right thing going after Armstrong. the problem is, in this soft version of the NHL, the instigator penalty does not allow what needs to be done, done. Armstrong does not have to answer to what he did, and if Avery throws punches he gets 2,5,and 10. take away the instigator penalty and Armstrong has to answer.

  63. Bull dog line- agree. And I totally praise Avery for doing that. Those penalties are easy to swallow and, interestingly, most of the teams kill them successfully. But it is what it is in terms of the rules. What they needed to do is go and hit Kessel. Hard.

  64. CW –

    This is the NHL – sry man, dont hit your shoes

    Thanks Dolans … we Ranger fans appreciate it!!

  65. I guess everyone can stop saying that the presence of Boorgaard will prevent the running of Lundqvist and hits on Gaborik. I applaud Avery for going after Armstrong but it should have been more than Avery. I hope Boorgaard goes after someone in Toronto next week. Oh I forgot, Colton Orr actually does prevent opposing players from going after his teammates. I bet Orr doesn’t get knocked on his assen again.

    The entire game last night was a complete continuation of last season. So frustrating.

  66. I saw that the original club report on Gaborik’s injury was 2 to 3 weeks. However, Gaborik told reporters 2 to 4 weeks this morning. Looks like Gaborik has already decided it will take longer. Is he related to Carlos Beltran? I hereby appoint him Marios Gabtran until he comes back.

  67. Hey look at it this way boys and girls…at least they dont get our hopes up the way they did it last year with 6 games win streak to start the season… at least now we know they suck from the get go :)

  68. mao_del_zedongo on

    last year’s team would never have been able to keep up with Toronto’s team speed…toronto skated really hard and fast yesterday. I see lots of positives….last year’s team couldnt score at all…this team gets and makes opportunities and Lundqvist did his magic for those who were crying that he was weak in our opening win. I refuse to bash this team until we see no effort…give them at least 10 games…that is what i do to determine if I will go see any games…not based on W/L record, but a team that plays with charisma. I see them working real hard and trying….defense will always suffer as a result of new people in place. …that said, i dont like Rosival’s game at all, and would be happy to see him gone. Eminger has played welll…some crushing hits too…let him continue to play. This team reminds me nothing of last season…it is very difficult to protect in this NHL…but we should have seen SOMEONE try to LEGALLY take the body hard on Armstrong…easier said than done i know…these new NHLers are so fast that missed body checks lead to counter attacking offensive opportunities.

  69. I guess Linda said it best Boogaard is like the atomic bomb, he super powerful , but to horrible to use. Todays NHL is designed for the cheapshot artist, they take their two minutes in the box for a cheap shot while Boogaard sits and watches. It’s not his fault no one will fight him, but when you think about it he really isn’t much of an asset thus far. The opposition really does not have to fear him, they can get away with pretty much anything. A guy like Prust is much more effective he fights them all big or small. He has been and continues to be a huge asset to this team. He’s playing skills have improved right along also. Hopefully Torts can make a player out the Boo man. He certainly has the size, now if he could only learn to skate.

  70. mao_del_zedongo on

    id like to see boogieman get more ice time early on…the other day he put some nice hits on the opposing D-men and then was on the bench the rest of the game…let him run around a bit like a godzilla-esque wrecking ball..instill some fear into the D’s to make pressure passes on the breakout instead of easily hitting the wing or coiling center.

  71. Thanks for the shout-out blogmama…it was quite a moment.

    Let’s hope next time we meet we’ll witness a W!

  72. Do you guys expect Boogard to pick a fight with 6’2″, 195 lb Colby Armstrong? The play happened, the penalty was called and after he got out of the box Avery picked a fight and Armstrong punked out. What more could anyone due other than sucker punch the guy and face a misconduct and a suspension. As far as Hank getting run, rewatch the play with Phanuef, he tried to pull up and stop, he didn’t blatantly run him. Team toughness is the least of our problems.

  73. LindaCalPruBoylahan on

    hockeymon, i cannot take credit for that, that line was CW’s all the way, hence his nomination for line of the week.

    I’m hoping the guys were just sooo dazzled by Ace Frehleys opening performance, and that’s why they played the way they did. Next years opening night will feature Justin Beiber.

    Last night WAS discouraging in most aspects, but they DID somehow come back and steal that point. I agree with Nasty and mao, 10-15 games to judge what’s going on. We gave everyone a clean slate for that long last season, lets just get off the ledge and see what the next 10 games bring.

    Any word on a suspension for Avery yet?

  74. and to think we used to laugh at and scorn the maple loaves. who is the next bottom feeder to pass us by in the nhl improved teams derby?

  75. Nessier! Welcome! I agree…bring almost Mrs. Nessier to warren on the 24th, we’ll be there after the game :)

    hockeymon, PHEW! maybe the league agreed the whole thing with Khumpsky should be a wash. I dunno, I’m just glad….

  76. Lin, TSN said he wont face any suspension or fine. Shocking!

    Chuck, Boyle said that if a player throws cheap shots at one of their guys, they’ll gladly take the penalty and kill it off.

    Yet nothing happened.

    And it’s game three of the season. One of these wimps should have stepped up and did something. Nothing has changed. As predicted, they’re still the same wimpy team that allows their best players to get cheap shots thrown at them without and consequences. Pathetic!

  77. what do you expect when you’ve got a captain that says to Avery “don’t do that” when he was bothering fatso. the LEADERSHIP of this team is the problem

  78. I think the Rangers would miss Avery big time right now. He has been Premo Avery so far. He has been one of the bright spots up to this point. Fun to watch. He should of had a goal last night though.

  79. dreary the sullen mumbler on

    last season when they were going bad who called the team meeting? it was Avery and henrik, NOT the great cap’n. he is useless

  80. Hey Mama, Jo and I won’t be able to come in on the 24th LIRR is going to be seriously limited service, we;d basically get there and have to leave :(

  81. ORR
    “Dreary, get your facts straight, the refs were telling Avery that they were going to call a penalty on him if he didn’t stop, so both Shanny, and Dreary had to tell him to stop.”
    When that happened there was no rule to call on Avery quite honestly Shanahan & Dreary were both pussies and Dreary still is. The damn refs had no idea what to do. This team really needs to get a backbone some of them are so soft it’s reidiculous.

  82. There might not have been an official rule, but I’ll stick with what Shanny has said a bunch of time. They definitely would have called the penalty.

    And like I said, when he stopped, he scored a big goal, even though they lost that game.

  83. Boogard, like Orr, Brashere, and Shelley before him will not be a deterrent. unless Boogard is going to be on the ice at the same time as Gaborik, he can’t protect him. Boogard, like most of today’s tough guys, can’t play. so there only role on there teams is to fight the other teams tough guys. most of theses fights are meaningless. the role of the enforcer today is meaningless compared to the enforcers of the late 70’s, 80’s, and early 90’s. those guys were on the ice to protect the stars. Semenko sometimes played with Gretzky, Gillies played with Trottier,Dave Schultz took a regular shift. they were out on the ice because they could play as well as protect. todays enforcers can’t play, so it is hard to protect.

  84. Looks like a certain webmaster is working on a Saturday night… The BOLD is beautiful, thanks!

  85. ORR!! Snooki Want Smoosh Smoosh!! on

    *Crosby has one ugly shoe design. *

    *Why does he have shoes anyway? Hockey players don’t use shoes on the ice! Only Milbury!*

  86. MickeyM really likes the second line on

    ‘Sup all.

    Just getting online now and I see Avery wasn’t suspended. A tad surprised at that, I will admit.

    I watched the game on replay last night and I wonder if they are spending ANY time working on defense in practice, because it was a horror show at times. They were very lucky to get that point and they’ll have to be MUCH MUCH better on Monday.

    Prucha siting in the Wings-Yotes game. Wings are playing with only 17 skaters tonight due to injuries.

  87. LindaCalPruBoylahan on

    Mickey, Sam and Joe were mentioning practice last night and I asked when they would attempt to work on the defense. Oy!!! It definitely needs help! If only Sather was gone, Leetch would probably work with the d then

    Keep the fine tuning going IT guys and gals! It’s almost perfect!

  88. LindaCalPruBoylahan on

    lmao @ ORR! freakin milbury…how he has the outright gall to talk about ANYONE just astonishes the mind

  89. I’m also surprised the league gave Avery the pass. Probably helps that he was penalized during the game and there was no injury.

    Our defensive pairings aren’t set yet and with the exception of Stall and Girardi they haven’t played together much. We’ve given up too many goals so there’s bound to be more emphasis on that part of our game. Also, with the injuries to Gabby and Dru the team may need more time to find their groove. Who plays with Frolov? White? And who goes in for EC if he doesn’t go on Monday?

  90. ORR!! Snooki Want Smoosh Smoosh!! on

    *Brad Richards has 7 assists already this season! Not bad. He’ll get a fat ass seven year front loaded contract from Slats this summer*

  91. MickeyM really likes the second line on

    Linda, I love the idea of Leetch working with the D. It would be great for them and for him as well. But you’re spot on about Sather Why can’t he just go AWAY?!

  92. Hey, has anyone seen Ricky2M? You know, the one who only shows up when the Devils win? Well, his team is in deep trouble, folks. And their defense is not the main problem. Their goaltender is. It isn’t Marty’s fault. The team was constructed, and the coach was chosen, for high power offense. No trap. Well, the defense isn’t good enough ( boy, did they miss Martin!), and with their aging star goalie- it looks like it was the worst year to do it. Marty looks like he should be backing up Matt Zaba. So unless something changes, we won’t be seeing Ricky very often.

  93. And Linda, the BOLD has nothing to do with IT, LMAO! It was ORR’s post. It was his post “happy” that started it. If Carp removes it, it’ll go back to normal. ORR by mistake didn’t ” close” the text.

  94. I don’t think we will see CR until after the Yankees are done with Texas. He is very superstitious.
    I just saw they lost.

  95. Olga Folkyerself on

    Black Hawks Win!! Tied for 1st in the conference.

    Rangers tied for last in the conference.

    FIRE SATHER!!!!!!!!!!!

  96. MickeyM really likes the second line on

    Lemon someone? I don’t think I wanna know. ;)

    I hope CR is OK with the Yanks loss. We all know how personal he takes these things.

  97. >>The BOLD is beautiful, thanks!

    I find it harder to read actually. We need black text on white/grey background, NOT bold.

  98. wicky© (Our D belongs in MAMBY PAMBY LAND!!!!) on

    and on a sad waiver day coupled with a real assen of a day at work, I am out!!

    night assens!!

  99. Watched the Isles and Colorado game last night…very interesting. Aves have a very good hockey team. Fast and determined.

    Isles are surprisingly a pret-ty good ( and well coached) team. If that’s heresy on a Ranger blog…so be it. I call’em like I see em. DiPietro in goal was not particularly impressive. He was very very lucky in the shots he faced. He gave up way more rebounds than LQ has been doing..butg got away with them. And I am sure that I saw the Avs ring three shots off the post. But IO have no recollection of any noteworthy saves by DiPete. He also had a weird adventure in the ” getting run into” situation.
    This guy Cooke on the Avs shoved an Isle player directly into DiPete, and then after serving the penalty, Cooke comes back and himself takes a flying blanket job on poor DiPete. amazing sequence ( and some what amusing) to watch. Rangers have played so few games that it;s difficult to make any hard and fast assessment of how they will round out. Too many situations where they are trying folks out etc. And of course there are two guys on this team that are evidently constructed of sugar candy. One bump and they shatter. ( Cruel I know, but amazingly repetitive)
    And it seems to be the same two over and over.

    For some reason after watching Anisimov for several seasons now, I find myself still waiting for him to step forward and consistently do something.

    I still have to believe that it will take about a dozen games before any real judgment can be made on the team. and yes, Tortorella can be out coached by, oh, just about anyone seen so far.

  100. Re: Richards. Do you think he would have 7 assists with the stiffs on the Ranger roster?

    Re: Avery NOT getting suspended. Didn’t anyone see Komisarek whack Avery first? That is what the NHL saw, and I thought I saw it a few seconds before the melee, an I DEFINITELY saw it just before Avery went George Washington on Komisarek’s cherry trees.

    Re: Avs & Isles early success. The NHL has become (and really always has beeen) a young man’s game. I think when a team is that young, there are less expectations, less pressure. Will it keep up all season? Who knows? But that youthful energy is something special.

  101. Re: Rodent. The guy has the best analysis of the NYR PERIOD. The guy has more balls than Larry Brooks, but knows a lot more aboot hockey. His take on the Toronto game is spot on. Take note of his Drury rant. Can Slats say “LTIR”?!?

  102. Just read the Rodent’s article, this line had me cracking up:

    “Bad s–t happens to Chris when he’s on the ice. Bad s–t also happens to New York when he is on the ice.”

  103. Crystal Water Triple on

    Each to his own re Colin Campbell’s tenure as coach, here. To me he was the Chris Dreary of NHL coaches, no passion, just robotic. And under him the Rangers were dethroned as Stanley Cup champions, in 1995, via a four-game SWEEP at the hands of Philly. This counts as defense of one’s Cup championship???

    He accomplished nothing here, and is better off as an NHL front office guy than screwing up someone’s team behind the bench. He was yet another worm of a personality who inspired no one, including the players, and who had no clue. You can keep him. Are you his nephew?

  104. LindaCalPruBoylahan on

    CW, i thought it was you who had mentioned on the earlier post about Komisarek chopping at Avery first. I just figured, because it was Avery and he whacked both of the guy’s legs, he’d get a fine or a suspension. Bettman and Colie must’ve been pissed he got whacked first.

  105. Linda, surprisingly, Avery never had any suspensions before for his on-ice actions. Hard to believe, but true. It was all his off-ice shenanigans. That may have something to do with it. From this specific action’s point of view, he wasn’t a repeat offender.

  106. I’d like to reverse my previously stated opinion that Avery’s second whack to Komisarek’s foot was stupid and he shouldn’t have done it. If Komisarek did indeed take the first chop to Avery (I missed it) then Sean did exactly the right thing going back at him especially when you add in the hit from behind to Gaborik. Mea culpa, mea culpa. Keep up the good work Sean!

  107. LindaCalPruBoylahan on

    that means one thing ilb, he better not do it again! Funny how a guy who purposely ended someones career (on ice) and another guy who killed someone (off ice) are beloved and respected. I keep trying to wrap my head around that and the way Avery is treated, and not just because Avery is a Ranger. I’d hold more animosity towards a drunk driver than someone who runs his mouth.

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